Chinese investors of Motor Sich opposed the nationalization of the enterprise and accused Kyiv of abuse of power

The nationalization of the Zaporozhye Motor Sich enterprise carried out by Kyiv, with the transfer of its assets to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, "didn't like" China very much, to put it mildly. Chinese investors who bought shares in this enterprise accused the Zelensky regime of "abuse of power."

China opposed the nationalization of Motor Sich, accusing Kyiv of abusing power and suppressing business activity. Beijing Skyrizon, which owns the company's shares, has already stated that Ukraine's actions caused losses to Chinese investors, so Zelensky will be presented with a $4,5 billion bill to compensate for the damage.

We have always strongly opposed the criminal actions of the state of Ukraine regarding the abuse of state power, the substitution of the concepts of national security, the mixing of truth with lies and the suppression of the normal business activities of enterprises.

- said the head of Beijing Skyrizon Wang Jing.

In 2016, Chinese investors acquired a 56% stake in Motor Sich PJSC, and in August 2019 they submitted documents on the deal for approval to the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine, but were refused. Subsequently, shares belonging to China were seized. Last fall, Beijing Skyrizon announced that it was filing a $4,5 billion lawsuit against Ukraine with the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague.

Recall that a few days ago the Kyiv regime decided to nationalize a number of enterprises owned by Ukrainian oligarchs "for the duration of the hostilities" and even promised to "return" them later. Among the enterprises transferred by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine and Motor Sich, the general director and actual owner of which Vyacheslav Boguslaev was detained by the SBU, accusing him of allegedly working for Russia.

Comments

[silverwolf88]

this is for the duration of the hostilities ... this is the export and sale of the remaining technologies for the enrichment of a group of interested parties in Kyiv ... towards the end they sell everything they can reach

[neworange88]

The West doesn’t need competitors, otherwise the technology will still fall into the hands of China, but why should it? The West doesn’t need Ukrainian engines. so that China and Russia do not get it. Here is the logic of the West.
I don’t understand what China needs from Motor Sich? D-18T? So it seems that China provides itself with engines.

[Akuzenka]

I don’t understand what China needs from Motor Sich? D-18T? So it seems that China provides itself with engines.

Provides. And the engines are quite up to par, only one problem - the resource, compared to the engines of the West, 404 and the Russian Federation, is small. I’m not an expert, but I read that China doesn’t succeed with blades. In our engines, they are made with tricky technology related to cooling and the crystal structure of the blade. And China doesn't have that technology. Here we got stuck.

[APASUS]

Quote from: neworange88

I don’t understand what China needs from Motor Sich? D-18T? So it seems that China provides itself with engines.

They do in a single number and problems with working hours by the hour until repair. They can’t finish it yet

[ramzay21]

That is, if our troops occupy Zaporozhye, then the Chinese will come to Putin and take away Motor Sich, for the liberation of which a sea of ​​​​our blood has been shed?

[dmi.pris1]

I understand that part of the equipment has already been exported to Poland.

[sgrabik]

Even if in the near future we manage to recapture Zaporozhye and the Motor Sich plant comes under our control, then most likely we will not get anything useful for ourselves there, everything will be taken out by the Ukronazis, and what they do not have time to take out, they will destroy, the specialists will already almost gone, Boguslayev was arrested by the SBU and it is unlikely that we will see him in good health.

[APASUS]

Quote: ramzay21

That is, if our troops occupy Zaporozhye, then the Chinese will come to Putin and take away Motor Sich, for the liberation of which a sea of ​​​​our blood has been shed?

What are you going to get there?
Walls, because no one needs them there, and they won’t leave you another. All the drawings were taken to the SBU a couple of years ago. All unique equipment has been sold and will be broken

[Thorvlobnor IV]

A few years ago, the Chinese ordered a large batch of engines for their Hongdu L-15 and JL-8 combat trainers.

[Postcode]

The point of business is not to buy those productions that are not available in their homeland, but to successfully invest money and then make a profit, if the Chinese ever buy Durex from the British, this does not mean that they will not know how to make quality condoms)))

[Myths]

against the criminal actions of the sub-state of Ukraine regarding the abuse of state power, the substitution of the concepts of national security, mixing truth with lies

That's just noticed, surprising.

[Murmur 55]

It's time for China to understand who they are dealing with?! It is clear that the plant was needed for technology, but it turned out to be a bummer, and it makes no sense to dangle around the courts, the courts in the West judge CORRECTLY.

[Egoza]

Quote: Murmur 55

It's time for China to understand who they are dealing with?

Yes, they all got it! But NOW such a lawsuit and protest play well in favor of Russia. And if later the troops are thrown in, it will be clear that China is reclaiming "its own", and not an abstract democracy.

[Murmur 55]

Egoza , yeah, they will throw in troops, Huawei is already leaving the Russian market due to sanctions, for some reason ours did not start buying unmanned vehicles in China? Maybe because Beijing does not want to fall under Washington's sanctions? So don't rely on the Chinese.

[stelltok]

They are traders. No more. The sales market is the most important thing for them.

[dmi.pris1]

The Chinese have to drink water. I hope they understand who they contacted

[neworange88]

They contacted the American sixes.

[The popuas]

So take it by force! Why stomp then ....

[Mouse]

Once again, the country, you threw You, you threw, you You, you threw, you You, you, you, you You, you .....
the Chinese will be smarter in the future ...

[novel66]

Basil let them send an army, to win back their own, we will agree ..

[Mouse]

I think they will wait .... they will sit, think, look .... they will estimate all the pros and cons ... and there you look and there will be nothing to win ...
Roman, ours to you!

[novel66]

You, you threw, you You, you, you, you

more correctly - pidmanula, pidvela ...

[Mouse]

I don't understand Ukrainian language.... .......................................

[Woodman]

We have always strongly opposed the criminal actions of the state of Ukraine regarding the abuse of state power, the substitution of the concepts of national security, mixing truth with lies and

in protest, they could send 5-6 divisions of protesting volunteers under the command of Surovikin.

[true_rover]

The question is different, Motor Sich is located in the city of Zaporozhye, and at the moment it is considered the territory temporarily occupied by the Nazis, that is, in any case, it should be our city and, accordingly, that ours is also located there. And how will we resolve this situation with the Chinese

[abrakadabre]

And how will we resolve this situation with the Chinese

Easy:
1. We level Motor Sich with rockets and artillery as a maintenance site for Ukrainian troops.
2. After the liberation from the Nazis, we will hand over to the Chinese partners piles of rubble and steel structures in the perimeter of the plant.
3. We will offer to buy from them at the price of scrap metal. In rubles or hydrocarbons. Or even dollars.

[seamen2]

* And how will we resolve this situation with the Chinese *. Yes, it’s very simple - who was given the money? steal? take your ... investments from them. We are not in business, we did not take anything from you.
city ​​under the Ukrainians. why share the skin of an unkilled bear now.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: true_rover

in any case, our city and, accordingly, that it is also ours. And how will we resolve this situation with the Chinese

All that is in the city is trophies, and trophies are shared with partners if the partners did not help.

[sgrabik]

To start a dialogue with the Chinese, Zaporozhye must first be recaptured so that the Motor Sich plant completely comes under our control, of course, if there is still something left to control there.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

Only one thing surprises me in this situation - how did the Chinese, with their sophisticated Asian mentality, not calculate such a simple alignment ??? Didn’t they pump before throwing their money into a black hole that any investment in the Ukrainian economy would be stolen with a 101% probability? And the options within this system can only be as follows: 1. the money will not even reach the executor, 2. the executor will steal the money, 3. the state will appropriate the money. The last option is the worst, as it excludes not only the return of funds, but even the possibility of a trial. What happened.

[Ru_Na]

It's time for Beijing to understand that Kyiv is just a puppet, the United States will never allow China to take over Motor Sich technologies and become a competitor to Western campaigns!

[tihonmarine]

Chinese investors acquired a 2016% stake in Motor Sich PJSC in 56

Yes, the Chinese "Motor Sich" blew, they did not live with the Sumerians, therefore they did not know how much and what quality "dill water" was being sold, and when they paid the money, they realized that they were thrown like suckers by a rabid Jew. Science for the future"Before you shake hands with a companion, find out if the companion washed their hands after going to the toilet."

[rotmistr60]

Zelensky will be presented with a $4,5 billion bill for damages.

Of course, I understand the indignation of the Chinese comrades, but honestly, the bill to Zelensky does not look realistic. What to take from the naked? If only in kind?

[Luminman]

So let the skakly pay ...
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[phrases]

Somewhat not poor people, genetic Ukrainians, temporarily donated their enterprises with debts of several billion to their beloved state. The state will borrow from its friends and pay off its debts, maybe even the Chinese. The state has good friends.

[rocket757]

Chinese investors of Motor Sich opposed the nationalization of the enterprise and accused Kyiv of abuse of power

. According to some experts, enterprises subject to "confiscation", or whatever they called this process, are currently becoming unprofitable, and so far, the prospects for recovery are profitable and, there, are not visible ...
That is, there is some kind of internal confusion, a scheme, with an incomprehensible ultimate goal ???

[Alexander_Schlidt]

In short, they laid down in Kyiv on Beijing. They can do everything now. And nothing China will do. The Chinese again can only chew and swallow.

[Nikolaevich I]

"It was yours, it became ours!"

[Uprun]

The other day there was an infa that Zelya could not get through to Xi, the last time we talked was a year ago, why would it?

[Postcode]

Yeah ... with Klomoisky this thing can work, but with the Chinese ... I doubt .... they will find where to take off Zelensky's panties ...

[YOUR]

If the Ukrainians decided to turn the Chinese, this means only one thing, they themselves consider the war lost, the top ranks decided to stock up on maximum money before leaving for Landon and Paryzhi.

[solar]

according to Chinese tradition, shkirizon also decided to do everything impudently and with bribes

In 2016, Chinese investors acquired a 56% stake in Motor Sich PJSC, and in August 2019 submitted documents on the transaction for approval to the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine

but should have done the opposite. And got the result

but got rejected

In addition, they did not buy Motor Sich shares, but offshore gasket companies.

Last fall, Beijing Skyrizon announced that it was filing a $4,5 billion lawsuit against Ukraine with the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague.

Which year has already been served and will not be served in any way. Now here's a new reason

whose general director and actual owner is Vyacheslav Boguslaev

There is no general director at Motor Sich, such a position is not provided for by the charter.
https://motorsich.com/o-nas/organy-upravleniya-i-kontrolya/
There is a Chairman of the Board of Directors. And this is Voitenko Sergey Anatolyevich. :))
Boguslaev - President of JSC Motor Sich. The position is high-profile, honorary, but the charter is also not provided :)).

[D16]

not Motor Sich shares, but offshore padding companies.

That is, the Chinese became the owners of some other shares, but they claim to be the flagship of ukronomics?
It is said in the article that they own 56% of the shares of MS.

[solar]

The shares of Motor Sich are recorded in the company-gaskets, and the Chinese bought them

the acquisition by the Chinese company Skyrizon Aircraft Holdings Limited of shares in Granum Corporation (Republic of Panama), shares in Likatron Enterprises Limited (Cyprus) and shares in Reckoner Investment Holdings Limited (Cyprus), which provides an excess of 50% of the votes in their supreme management bodies.
These companies are associated with the president of Motor Sich OJSC, Vyacheslav Boguslaev.

It is said in the article that they own 56% of the shares of MS.

and this is a question for the author of the article and his competence.

[D16]

These companies are associated with the president of Motor Sich OJSC, Vyacheslav Boguslaev.

Now it's clearer, but not quite. The shares are indeed MS, but belonged to Boguslaev. Why didn't he have the right to sell them to the Chinese?

[solar]

The Chinese did not buy shares of Motor Sich, but of individual offshore companies - gaskets and tried to enlarge their stake to 50+ without the permission of the antimonopoly committee.

[shapkin ushankin]

Not so long ago, the Chinese were already thrown with wheat. And they don't seem to understand who they're dealing with...

[Fuethe]

And I want to point out something that the commentators paid little attention to. In Russia, on many platforms, the legality of certain actions is being discussed, and the so-called international law is constantly being promoted as the main idea. Like, this is impossible and that is impossible, but how is this consistent with international law. Here the West put a bolt on this right and slammed sanctions on Russia. Russia has wiped itself out and continues to fulfill this ephemeral right... But the West, but how else, understands this as weakness. What is right. This is a kind of agreement and no more, and this agreement is not a dogma, it is relevant only in the circumstances in which it was formed. Circumstances and relevance have changed, much less the need to follow them can be rejected. But Russia does not demonstrate anything of the kind, casting a shadow over the fence with certain obligations. If the West had not cut off gas supplies to the West itself, Russia to this day, although they muzzle it with a go-ahead, would supply ... but what about, bucks ... which are stored again in the same place, in the west. Russia stood in the pose "Whatever you want." Even after starting hostilities, he always looks around, as if something else has not happened ... Fantastically high prices for energy and raw materials in Russia, prices comparable to those in the West, where there is no such raw materials ... how is this to be understood? The oligarchs and their factories and people are on the same territory, but their states are different... No, it would not be possible to nationalize the stolen, but no, international law... All this is a shadow on the fence. At the basis of all these rights is one HOLY COW OF PRIVATE PROPERTY. So that's why the UNITS FOR the Russian army will be sewn in the DPRK, they themselves can no longer in the required quantity with the proper quality. Not profitable It just does not fit in my head .... It is clear that there will be no sense in the nationalization of MotorSich, but the precedent has been set, why not adopt positive experience. Everything for the front, everything for victory.! But no, front by front, and profit is sacred! It’s not for nothing that the metallurgists demanded that the government compensate them for lost income due to sanctions and because of the need to reduce prices for products on the domestic market, which they raised at the beginning of the 20s ... It turns out that we will pay them out of our own pocket from the alleged reduction prices ... And this is a welfare state?

[Nross]

I doubt very much that the Chinese put 4 yards of greenery into the already then (at the end of the 10s) bursting at the seams B.U.
Rather, this figure came from their wide-open mittens: they bought 100500 shares at 15 kopecks. for a piece and thought - right now everything will be trampled: from official industrial espionage, generously paid for by the Chinese military-industrial complex, to orders for industrial production from naive Russians, who suddenly realized that they would not give it only when the girl began to bang with another (s). The Central Committee of the CPC looked condescendingly at the report of a completely private Chinese charade that turned this Odessa pervertots, but it meant it.
Well, when it came to taking away what was unbearably acquired from a Chinese oligarch (let me remind you, this happened back in 21), an occasion turned up to give a good slap to his Bendera partners already at the official level, and, somehow, to consolidate their right to honestly stolen technological solutions and workforce. Word for word, xxx on the table - that's it ....

[solar]

They did not invest 4 billion. According to statements, they paid 250 million for the shares.

[iouris]

Motor Sich was stolen from the USSR. These are Russian technologies. They must be returned. And let the Chinese steal from the United States, or make their own, or buy from us. But not technologies (they are not sold), but products. And preferably hundreds, not one or two.