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Geopolitical mosaic: Hamas attacked Israel’s nuclear reactor, and the White House knows only two ways of democratization: cash or bombs

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99 deaths. October 29, on the third day of the declared truce between the Syrian authorities and the rebels, killed at least 99 people. Reports about it "Lenta.ru" with reference to France-Presse.

According to human rights activists from the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, 35 of those who died were soldiers of the government army, 34 were rebels, and 30 were civilians. Most civilians, according to human rights activists from a London diner, died in a government raid aviation to one of the villages in the province of Idlib.

Geopolitical mosaic: Hamas attacked Israel’s nuclear reactor, and the White House knows only two ways of democratization: cash or bombs


"Tape" recalls that both the rebels and the government forces began to violate the previously announced truce in the very first hours of its operation. On Friday and Saturday, at least 175 people were killed.

Dispersal of the "oppositionists" in Mecca. The Saudi authorities broke up a protest against the “Assad regime” in Mecca. As transmits "Lenta.ru" with reference to Reuters, several hundred pilgrims from Syria participated in the action.

The protesters with rebel flags marched across Mine, the eastern suburb of Mecca, where over three million pilgrims are now located. The Syrians expressed dissatisfaction with the inability of the world community to stop the bloodshed in their country.

The police asked the crowd to disperse. The protesters dispersed, mingling with other pilgrims.

Reuters reports that the Saudi authorities have made the protesters understand that they would like to see the holy land free from political speeches.

Two explosions in Iraq. ITAR-TASS reports that yesterday there were two explosions in al-Madain, 20 km south-east of Baghdad. According to employees of local medical institutions, as a result, three people were killed and eight were injured.

Two explosive devices worked simultaneously near the city market. Details are not yet known.

The goal - a nuclear reactor in Dimona. Early Sunday morning, Palestinian militants fired several Grad rockets, clearly targeting a nuclear reactor in the city of Dimona. Reports about it MIGnews.com with reference to the Israeli resource DEBKAfile. Rockets exploded in open areas in the Ramat Negev region southwest of the city.

What goals can Hamas militants pursue? Obviously, the first goal is this: the leadership of the group provides Tehran with the Gaza Strip to use as a southern operational base for actions against Israel, thereby complementing the role of the Lebanese Hezbollah on the northern Israeli border. Another goal: obtaining improved ground-to-ground missiles that Hamas will aim at the most sensitive Israeli targets located within reach. Among them may be a nuclear reactor in Dimona, an air force base and a US radar station in the Negev.

The Islamists who control the coastal enclave will probably continue to strike at their targets.

It is curious that the Grad rocket fired at a nuclear reactor at 07: 44 in the morning was followed by several hours of official silence. Even when the press service of the IDF outlined in general terms a rocket that had fallen into Ramat ha-Negev, the report did not mention that a nuclear reactor was located in the north of this region.

Meanwhile, this is already the second attempt in the last three weeks, clearly indicating that Tehran (represented by Hamas) has focused on the Israel nuclear plant. So say military sources referenced by DEBKAfile.

The fact is that on October 6, an Iranian unmanned aircraft that invaded Israeli airspace managed to photograph a reactor building and an air defense system radar. The data collected was, quite likely, transferred to Hamas for the subsequent correction of the missile attack.

Egypt requires. The Egyptian government demanded that Israel stop building in Jerusalem "and in the occupied West Bank," reports MIGnews.com with reference to Al-Jazeera.

Egypt stated that the continuation of the construction "will have negative consequences for the peace negotiations between the parties to the peace process."

The al-Qaida leader turned to the Egyptians and criticized the US president. Ayman az-Zavahiri called on Egyptians to fight for Islam and kidnap Westerners, reports "Lenta.ru" with reference to France-Presse and The Jerusalem Post.

The video message of Ayman al-Zawahiri takes almost an hour. It was spread on the Internet in connection with the outlined normalization of relations between Egypt and Israel and in connection with the reached informal agreement between Tel Aviv and Hamas on a cease-fire.

The leader of al-Qaeda had to turn to Muhammad Mursi via video, in order to clarify his position on the “jihad for the liberation of Palestine” and at the same time Egypt’s participation in the “US war against terror”.

Lenta recalls that Mr. Mursi was supported by the Muslim Brotherhood Islamist movement during the presidential election in June 2012; moreover, he has been a member of the leadership of the movement since 2000. After his election, he, with the inherent flexibility of other politicians, declared that he was withdrawing from the movement to be “the president of all Egyptians”.

The less flexible az-Zawahiri called the Egyptians to protest against the normalization of relations with Israel and to continue the revolution in order to get rid of the government, which it considers to be corrupt and under the influence of the United States.

Hence the leader of the terrorists logically turned to criticism of the United States. Al-Zawahiri called the President of the United States a liar, and then demanded that he recognize the defeat of America and its allies in Iraq, Afghanistan and the countries of North Africa.

A good election program for the Obama peacekeeper, we add. None of the candidates was able to play for a fall. If az-Zawahiri had the right to vote in the USA, he would have voted for Merlin Miller or Gary Johnson. Both of these guys promise to withdraw the United States from the UN and NATO, and Miller in addition would completely ban immigration and withdraw troops from all countries that the United States recently unsuccessfully democratized.

One problem: as soon as Obama publicly repents of defeat, all his voices will flow not to Miller, about whom few in the US have heard, but to Mitt Romney. But such a shift in the electorate of az-Zavahiri is just not necessary: ​​the Republican Romney is much more militant than the democrat Obama and is in favor of increasing the Pentagon’s budget.

However, Romney and Zawahiri have a common goal: Syria. Time will tell who is more Islamist: Obama or Romney - if only the latter manages to bypass the "spoiler" of Miller, Johnson and other candidates and bypass the November 6 election of Comrade Obama.

The explosion in Nigeria. The victims of the explosion, thundering near the Catholic Church in the Muslim north of Nigeria, turned out to be eight people. As a result of this strong explosion, more than 100 people suffered. The attack was arranged by a suicide bomber who attempted to drive a jeep stuffed with explosives into the crowded church where the service was held.

One of the walls in a powerful explosion partially collapsed; in many neighboring houses there were cracks, transmit "Vesti" with reference to ITAR-TASS.

In response, Christian youth took to the streets, armed with knives and sticks. There were calls to crack down on Muslims.

Local media blamed the attack on Christians on the Islamist group Boko Haram, seeking to establish sharia in northern Nigeria. The means of grouping one thing - terrorist acts.

The Romans demand the resignation of Monty. On Saturday, mass demonstrations against the economic policy of Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti took place in Rome, reports "Lenta.ru" with reference to France-Presse.

The actions were organized by Italian trade unions, as well as left-wing parties. In addition, other public organizations joined them. The protest was directed against cuts in budget expenditures in the framework of overcoming the crisis in the eurozone. Among the main demands of the protesters - the resignation of Monty.

Some protesters, wearing masks, portrayed the prime minister, while others had life-size puppets by German Chancellor Angela Merkel and US President Barack Obama. Participants stocked eggs, bottles of water and paint - they threw all this at banking institutions.

The Italian newspaper Leggo writes about 150 thousands of demonstrators. According to other sources, we are talking about 30 thousands. There are no exact calculations. Protest actions take place in other cities of crisis Italy.

Berlusconi spoke about the conspiracy - against him and against Italy. Former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has accused European leaders of plotting against him, reports "Voice of Russia" with links to open internet sources. The roles of the main conspirators were performed, according to Berlusconi, Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy.

The former head of government spoke at a press conference at his Ville Gernetto in Lesmo, near Milan.

“With a smile on the lips of Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy, they tried to discredit my political image on the world stage,” Berlusconi told the public. And he added that he resigned solely for reasons of the interests of the motherland.

The technical cabinet, according to Berlusconi, “acts on the orders of Germany.” The former head of government also said that he had never shared the course of Germany in dealing with the crisis in the euro area, including measures against banks and delays in assisting Greece.

Greek military parade with Russian orchestra. According to correspondent ITAR-TASS Sergey Latyshev, in Thessaloniki - the northern capital of Greece - yesterday a military parade was held in connection with the celebration of the national holiday of the Day “Oh” (“No”) - the 72 anniversary of the heroic entry of Greece into the Second World War.

In the presence of President Karolos Papoulias, members of the government, top military leaders, hierarchs of the Orthodox Church and representatives of foreign diplomatic missions along the Primorsky Prospekt of the city, cadets of military schools, ground forces, paratroopers, marines, naval sailors, special forces divers, evzones (soldiers of the presidential Guard), rescuers, firefighters, veterans, students and schoolchildren, brass bands.

Several ships of the Greek Navy and the newest submarine “Papanicolis” entered the Gulf of Thermaikos.

Alas, for the first time in history military parades on the occasion of "Okha" did not show military equipment. The reason is trivial: financial savings.

There were no planes of the Greek Air Force in the sky. As if on purpose, the parade was held in the rain and clouds ...

Corr. ITAR-TASS recalls that in 2011, a group of demonstrators with black flags and banners with slogans against the government’s economic policy blocked the central avenue in Thessaloniki from both sides, interfering with the military parade. The special forces detachments held back the demonstrators, but the police did not use measures to disperse the protesters and unblock the highway.

On that day, having waited for about half an hour, the President of Greece, himself a member of the Greek Resistance, expressed regret over what had happened and left the podium with other officials.

But at the current celebrations, the Black Sea Brass Band performed fleet RF The concert took place on the main Thessaloniki square named after Aristotle.

Party of Regions leads the Ukrainian elections. As transmits RIA News", after counting the 10% of protocols in the elections to the parliament of Ukraine, the ruling Party of Regions leads with party lists with 39,97% of votes.

The opposition Batkivshchyna ranks second (19,56%). In third place - the Communist Party (15,79%). In fourth place - the party "UDAR" Vitali Klitschko (11,59%), on the fifth - the nationalists of "Freedom" (6,18%).

The rest of the parties participating in the parliamentary elections did not get 5% of votes.

Voter turnout was 57,99%.

In Indonesia, prevented the explosion of the American embassy. In Indonesia, on Saturday, 11 people were arrested who were suspected of preparing bombings for the buildings of the American diplomatic mission, reports "Lenta.ru" with reference to France-Presse.

A group of intruders was going to blow up the US embassy in Jakarta, as well as the building of the US Consulate General in the country's second largest city - Surabaya. The Australian embassy in Jakarta was considered a secondary target of the attack.

During the operation, explosive devices and instructions for making bombs were seized. Police said all those arrested were members of the new Hasmi terrorist group.

The case of Bo Xilai and American revelations. Dmitry Sobiev ("Vesti") talks about the investigation into the scandalous Chinese politician Bo Xilai, initiated by the prosecutor's office.

He is suspected of money laundering and corruption. On Friday, Bo Xilai was deprived of his deputy’s mandate. Interestingly, the American newspaper The New York Times published a report that Premier Wen Jiabao is an underground billionaire himself. Access to the relevant page of the publication on the Internet, the Chinese authorities immediately closed.

Meanwhile, American journalists write that Wen Jiabao, this implacable anti-corruption fighter, is in fact an underground billionaire.

A Chinese comrade, appearing at official events without a wife, is married to Zhang Bailey, the “diamond queen of China” who controls the diamond market. In addition, the children of influential couples dispose of a whole business empire, including construction, insurance and telecommunications firms. The total value of the family business of spouses and their two children is close to three billion dollars.

This big money was mainly earned on government orders. The family-controlled companies reportedly participated in the construction of the Olympic Village in Beijing and the disposal of medical waste during the SARS epidemic.

Billions emerged precisely after the appointment of Wen Jiabao to the post of prime minister. His elderly mother, in the past an ordinary school teacher, in her 90 years, suddenly became the owner of a business worth 120 million dollars.

Most of the family fortune, American journalists believe, is sheltered from prying eyes with the help of ingenious schemes.

As for Bo Xilai, he, deprived of his deputy’s mandate, will surely go to court.

His wife, Gu Kailai, was found guilty of murdering Briton Neil Heywood, who essentially managed the family capital of an influential couple. Corruption and money laundering accusations have been prepared for the official himself. His wife was sentenced to death with a suspension. Analysts believe that Bo Xil himself will not be given a delay.

Hillary's decision. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will leave the US administration - even if Barack Obama is re-elected. She confirmed her plans in an interview with The Washington Post; "Vesti" with reference to ITAR-TASS.

She said: “I am going to leave shortly after the inauguration; such is my plan. ” The head of the American diplomacy acknowledged that “she has not yet had the opportunity to talk with the president,” since he is busy with the election campaign. “I hope everything will be resolved soon,” H. Clinton noted. - And then we will discuss issues related to the "changing of the guard."

Earlier, Clinton announced that she intends to stay on as US Secretary of State only one term.

The Secretary of State declined to say whether she recommended to the president someone who could change her.

Meanwhile, Clinton herself is called the likely contender for the US presidency in 2016. However, earlier she claimed that she did not want to participate in the elections.

In America, they don't like blacks and mexicans. According to a survey by the Associated Press, interracial relations in the United States have not improved over the past four years. The first Negro president had no effect on this. Just over half of the respondents are prejudiced against blacks, reports Washington Post (translation source - "InoSMI"). From this it is concluded that Barack Obama may miss the “white” votes in the election. However, negros will vote for him.

According to AP, at the moment 51% of Americans openly expresses a negative attitude towards blacks (compared to 48% in 2008 year). When experts tried to assess the level of hidden racial prejudice, the number of Americans who were negatively opposed to blacks jumped to 56% (compared to 49% during the last presidential election).

Most Americans have previously expressed prejudice against the "Latinos". According to a survey conducted by “AR” in 2011, 52% of the non-Latin American population expressed negative attitudes towards Latin Americans. According to the results of the experimental test, this figure was 57%.

President Obama has been very cautious about the racial theme, but many African Americans have expressed that they have begun to feel a negative attitude just since Obama took office. They recall cases of police brutality or stickers on bumpers, cartoons, posters at demonstrations, in which the president is mocked, portrayed by a monkey or even a hanged man.

According to the survey, due to racial prejudice, Obama could lose 5 percentage points in elections. At the same time, Obama has an advantage in 3. Pp thanks to the sympathies of the blacks.

Thus, two percentage points are Obama's net national losses.

Humanitarian aid for the obedient - and bombs for those who re-read. The "war" of drones, which the US is leading not so much against terrorists as against the civilian population of Pakistan, has already been told more than once in "VO". However, an interesting point of view on this and related issues of aggressive US foreign policy was shown in a short article by Daniel McAdams published on Infowars.com.

The author refers to a large publication in the Washington Post, which describes in detail the military activities of the American camp Lemonnier - a special base of 500 acres in the Horn of Africa, which is under the jurisdiction of the United States Special Operations Command. This camp is the center from where the drones are waging war against al-Qaeda (with the exception of its cells in Libya and Syria — the US administration is in union with these).

The teeth of the American empire, the author writes, are ugly. Considering the recent study of the war of drones conducted at Stanford and New York universities, UAVs not only fail to achieve their goals, but innocent civilians are killed most of the time. In fact, Lemonier is the largest terrorist base in the world.

A quote from a Stanford University study:

“Drones are guided twenty-four hours a day, with the objectives of a community in northwestern Pakistan. Houses, vehicles, public places - all of this is affected without any warning. The constant presence in the sky of drones terrorizes men, women and children, causes anxiety and fear, which are sources of psychological trauma among the civilian population. Those who live under drones constantly have to fear lethal blows that can be inflicted at any time - and these people are well aware that they will not be able to defend themselves. ... From June 2004 to mid-September 2012, according to available data, 2562-3325 people were killed by drones in Pakistan, of whom 474-881 were civilians, among them 176 children. ”


But the “most exciting” episode in the Washington Post article, according to the journalist, is the one where the secrets of the Lemonnier camp activities are revealed.

In total, there are about 3200 US military personnel, civilians and contractors. Foreign campers are being trained in the camp, intelligence is collected, and humanitarian aid is distributed as part of a campaign to prevent extremists from rooting in East Africa.

Ron Paul notes on this point that the US foreign policy is clearly demonstrated here: the US government does not just kill Lemonnier drones, but also gives out “help” to those who obey!

Comrade Paul has long held this point of view:

“I often expressed the opinion that we treat our“ colleagues ”in countries around the world as follows: we tell them what to do and if they do, we give them money. If they don’t, we bomb them ... ”


As a result, the promotion of American democratic "values" is achieved through a deadly threat. Anyone who does not promote American interests will be bombed. Others will be satisfied with working with us. This thought Ron Paul once again reported to the public.

Perhaps such efforts to spread democracy, says Daniel McAdams, are effective. Cash - to those who do what he is ordered, and unmanned aerial vehicles - in the direction of those who re-read the White House.

Well, let us add, the notions of “value” and “price” for a great and free America have always been not just words with the same root, but often merged into a trade chain directly according to Marx's formula: commodity — money — commodity. What value cannot be calculated on Uncle Sam's calculator? And only one thing worries advanced Washington minds: so that the calculator does not have a long minus on the board.

Observed and translated by Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. omsbon
    omsbon 29 October 2012 11: 15
    +1
    There and here explosions, explosions, explosions!
    Yes, amers with their bomb humanization.
    1. dimanf
      dimanf 29 October 2012 22: 08
      +2
      pictures on the topic.
  2. JonnyT
    JonnyT 29 October 2012 11: 26
    +6
    The old hag has broken its teeth about Syria - retired tries!

    Hamas conducted trial runs, damn scary what will happen next!

    Dream of a Native American: If every Jew takes himself into the undercoats of a black man and dumps him from the country! Nothing changes, people are still other wolves!

    The leader of the puppet Al Qaeda raises the rating of Romney. That's who pays for the tune!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 October 2012 12: 15
      +5
      Quote: JonnyT
      Hamas conducted trial runs, damn scary what will happen next!

      At Hazbella and Iran, the missiles will be more accurate and more powerful, the Amers, in turn, will also answer, well, further, as if by notes. Build bunkers, stock up with matches and salt belay
      But the current president of Egypt, I feel like not to blow my head, she will be cut off if she continues to dance with amers hi
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 29 October 2012 12: 52
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But the current president of Egypt, I feel like not to blow my head, she will be cut off if she continues to dance with amers


        And who will cut ??? Who did America create in 80's in Afghanistan? Or the disgruntled Egyptian people?
        The President of Egypt was between a rock and a hard place, on the one hand the masters, on the other scumbag! Will know how to be friends with amers!

        About Iran. Will there be a hit or not ???? On the one hand, the USA needs to convert its external debt, for this a serious armed conflict with the use of a nuclear strike is just right, but Iran is not so weak, and most importantly it’s not stupid, you can get it on the teeth! For some reason, it seems to me that the United States will throw Israel to destruction, in this region they need only chaos. Jews understand this, and they will not flog fever. An open armed confrontation is extremely unprofitable for them. They resorted to a proven method - a revolution and a horde of controlled killer thugs!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 October 2012 14: 29
          0
          Quote: JonnyT

          And who will cut ??? Who did America create in 80's in Afghanistan? Or the disgruntled Egyptian people?

          Are you really interested in this?
          1. JonnyT
            JonnyT 29 October 2012 15: 13
            0
            To be honest, no, but from whoever does this, a new political force may appear in this region
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 29 October 2012 14: 32
          +2
          They resorted to a proven method - a revolution and a horde of controlled killer thugs!

          In Iran, this will not work.
          1. JonnyT
            JonnyT 29 October 2012 15: 30
            0
            Quote: PSih2097
            In Iran, this will not work.

            I wouldn’t be so sure of that! Any state can be rocked, the main thing is to choose the right strategy. In my opinion, there are many people in Iran who are "thirsty for change" any person gets tired of living in a regime of restrictions. Ahmunedzhan (forgive me if the name was not written correctly) specifically "tightened the screws" to keep the country. He has many enemies both inside and outside the country! Another thing is that the people in Iran are aware of what the "revolution" will lead to, so it will take a long time to process the psychology of the masses. Now it makes no sense to expect any revolutionary movements, but during an open armed conflict it is possible!

            The presence of a huge crowd of armed fanatics near the borders of Iran can also not be discounted, the constant armed provocations at the borders, plus the active sabotage of Western intelligence services, will do its dirty deed. The discontent of the Iranians will grow and if it is skillfully used and a delicate approach (not like in Libya) is found, then here is the revolution!

            But there is one thing ...... such a pattern of action is applicable only to countries with a western type of population (its own ... and all are more expensive). That is why for the West the informational component of the conflict is very important. If the struggle of the armed forces of Iran with the Western puppets and Israel outgrows into a domestic war, then Iran will gain up, not without the help of Russia, of course!
    2. Kaa
      Kaa 29 October 2012 19: 11
      +3
      Quote: JonnyT
      Hamas conducted trial runs, damn scary what will happen next!

      And what, only the United States can bomb-correct with drones? As there Sharikov at Bulgakov said "Tea. Nagans themselves will be found." And apparently, this is only so, sighting. They will bring in some thread of a fool more powerful, why was there a nuclear center to be built in such a "hot zone" at all, and the whole Mediterranean and the Middle East will have to sneeze for a long time. Is this a pro-American birth control policy?
      1. Commodus
        Commodus 30 October 2012 15: 50
        0
        Will know how to be friends with amers!

        I apologize, but this is not friendship, but use. They will have him, write off the sins on him and put up a new puppet.
        And in Iran, it’s not the president who actually runs the parade, but Ayatollah Khomeini. Iran’s most combat-ready military group is subordinate to him religiously (possibly fanatically) minded. The same Corps of Guardians of the Islamic Revolution (IRGC). These are the very people who, by order, can run to the full height on machine guns, but they will not do this. They are, that for the uss ugly, they also learn to fight. And they study well, purposefully.
        Generally speaking, Iran is a religious-democratic state. It is possible to shatter it from within if there are several faiths of believers (or how it is right) and one of which is infringed, as it was in Iraq, and now in Syria. The more united Alawites in Syria crushed Christians, Shiites and Sunnis under themselves and led the reign as they thought they were the best. Which, not without the help of the West, resulted in a powerful uprising.
        In Iran, as far as I know, the majority of the population professes one faith and the majority governs strange, and besides they look united. How will it really be known in the next year or two.
  3. Lucky
    Lucky 29 October 2012 11: 51
    0
    Something is happening in the world, and we complain that we are not living well, that the army is being plundered, it would be better if that’s how people explode (
    1. Cripple cross
      Cripple cross 29 October 2012 13: 35
      +7
      that the army is being stolen, let it be better

      So if it is stolen, then everything will explode for us, too, because there will be nothing to repulse. So nefig here to wave to those who want the collapse of our country, with such phrases like, let it be better. So it will not be and the army will be in order.
      The army will be in order, there will be order in the country.
      1. stariy
        stariy 29 October 2012 14: 54
        +2
        Quote: CrippleCross
        The army will be in order, there will be order in the country

        Golden words and indeed the whole text +++++++
  4. Slevinst
    Slevinst 29 October 2012 12: 05
    -1
    Quote: Lucky
    Something is happening in the world, and we complain that we are not living well, that the army is being plundered, it would be better if that’s how people explode (

    you just have to wipe one country off the face of the earth and everyone will be happy
    1. igor67
      igor67 29 October 2012 16: 09
      +3
      Slevinst,
      Slevinst,
      And everyone will be happy? But if you really approach without emotions, what 300 years ago this state was not in sight, and that action was good in the world? There were no bloody wars, massacres between nations? It is the essence of man to find the culprit in his troubles (just someone, just not himself). Lydi have been fighting for thousands of years, and each time they find the evil empire guilty of their troubles. I don’t defend the states, I want a leash that I wouldn’t pay much attention to myself

      Slevinst,
      Slevinst,
      And everyone will be happy? But if you really approach without emotions, what 300 years ago this state was not in sight, and that action was good in the world? There were no bloody wars, massacres between nations? It is the essence of man to find the culprit in his troubles (just someone, just not himself). Lydi have been fighting for thousands of years, and each time they find the evil empire guilty of their troubles. I don’t defend the states, I want a leash that I wouldn’t pay much attention to myself
      1. fern
        fern 30 October 2012 00: 02
        +1
        For everyone to be happy, all of humanity will have to be erased. And indeed all living organisms. Because intraspecific and interspecific struggle is in almost all. The fight will last as long as the last bacterium is alive
        And remember, once America was in the same way with Great Britain. How to a world evil empire. And America fought for its independence
  5. Ascetic
    Ascetic 29 October 2012 12: 16
    +15
    It is curious that the Grad rocket fired at a nuclear reactor at 07: 44 in the morning was followed by several hours of official silence. Even when the press service of the IDF outlined in general terms a rocket that had fallen into Ramat ha-Negev, the report did not mention that a nuclear reactor was located in the north of this region.


    It is curious in this regard to assess the effectiveness of the Israeli missile defense "Iron Dome", created just for the destruction of NURS. And is there any protection from the side, or are all the batteries covering the northern direction from the Lebanese side, or have they slept well, worn out from overwork at joint missile defense exercises with amers.

    Greek military parade with Russian orchestra.

    Greece is a typical victim of the speculative financial system of globalizers. It’s already impossible to live on credit, there’s only one way out - to cut budget expenditures, as a rule by cutting salaries and pensions. The Greeks rebel and look with hope not at their government but at ... Russia ..
    5 years ago I received 1,5 thousand euros per month, now - one thousand, - complains one of the demonstrators, 38-year-old Maria Tsantalos. - I give eight hundred on a loan for a mortgage ... you can lie down and die for the remaining money. I am against the conditions that lenders from the European Union are imposing on us. It is time to turn away from the EU and make friends with our “brothers in Christ” - Russians. Only Russia is now able to save Greece!

    So no more, no less .. "brothers in Christ" immediately remembered.
    It is funny that back in the nineties the Greeks considered Russia as a poor country. But now it’s another extreme - many are sure that chickens don’t peck at us
    Russian rich, they will pay more. I hope that the law will be adopted soon: when buying an apartment in Greece, you can get a residence permit in the EU. Then your spa people will buy everything here, and housing prices will rise by leaps and bounds ”

    Of course, people in Greece are exhausted. During their membership in the EU they were “hooked” on the needle of “cheap” loans: now you do not have to live, but to survive - in the coming decades the republic will face austerity regime. Not everyone is ready to realize this fact - the country is on the verge of a nervous breakdown. More and more people take to the streets to fight with the police, they have nothing to lose - youth unemployment is 50% (!), Wages are reduced every six months. Another question: how exactly can Russia improve the economy of Greece? To give free loans worth tens of billions of euros without a chance to get the debt back is not a very pleasant option.
    It would be great to help Greece, a country with which friendship and religion have always connected us. And not only that ... If the Greek economy falls apart, it will become bad throughout Europe, including us. However, on the other hand, it’s enough to give out money purely for beautiful eyes and compliments, especially in times of crisis. Friends should help ... but it’s best to try to ensure that you never regret this help later.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 29 October 2012 13: 57
      +1
      And what to evaluate. The dome knocks down missiles that potentially damage certain areas. Does not bear such damage - does not go astray. For those missiles that flew into residential and other areas, the percentage goes in the 90 area.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 29 October 2012 14: 54
        +4
        Quote: Pimply
        The dome knocks down missiles that potentially damage certain areas. Does not bear such damage - does not go astray. For those missiles that flew to residential and other areas, the percentage goes around 90.


        Yes, no. It's just that the Israeli government does not intend to allocate money for the full deployment of this system. There are only 4 batteries with a range of 150 km. Moreover, some shells were shot down with an efficiency of up to 90% that there were no joyful reports.
        Conversely
        Grad rocket fired at a nuclear reactor at 07:44 a.m. followed by several hours of official silence. Even when the IDF press service outlined a missile that fell into Ramat ha-Negev, the report did not mention that a nuclear reactor was located in the north of this region.

        It somehow does not look like the brave guys from the IDF who have all the coolest and best in the world.
        The video is from February, but there has been no progress on this issue since that time. Only in July, Obama approved the transfer of 70 million dollars to the "ZhK", this is only part of the amount. The rest is due to the Israeli government, but the money has not yet been allocated as well as for the military satellite 100 million. also.
        And then where did Obama's millions go? Where is the money, Zin? Already went to the store?



        Well, judging by some answers of sane people there are not so many. Only Ariela Brunberg and Sarah Fried from all the respondents think sensibly.
        1. TULSKIY CAMOBAP
          TULSKIY CAMOBAP 30 October 2012 10: 11
          0
          Well, the last respondent in the video is too optimistic, I would not relax in their place.
  6. Samovar
    Samovar 29 October 2012 12: 22
    +4
    we tell them what to do, and if they do, we give them money. If they do not, we will bomb them

    American version of carrot and stick. But if the punished person has a whip that is more authentic, he is replaced by a carrot (usually with a laxative). wassat
  7. Beck
    Beck 29 October 2012 13: 28
    -2
    Hamas fired hailstones of Israel. Hezbollah at the ready.

    Well, that’s why extremist organizations tease Israel? Indeed, since 1948, not only organizations, but also the armies of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, taken together, failed to destroy the state of Israel. All of them, when attacking the promised land, were beaten.

    Israel tolerates Hamas and Hezbollah by its side only taking into account international norms and observing the provisions of the UN. If there were people like the leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah in the leadership of Israel, then tomorrow there would be only fragments of these two Xs.

    But after all, sometime Israel may not hold back. Then the howl of the extremist remnants will rise again - How is it that the Jews dared to respond to rocket attacks on their cities with a crushing blow.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 29 October 2012 15: 28
      +1
      Quote: Beck
      Israel tolerates Hamas and Hezbollah only by taking into account international norms and observing the provisions of the UN

      Patience also has boundaries. The army will enter Gaza and war will begin again about the genocide and the Jewish animals who just attacked peaceful Gaza
      ______
      Statistics of rocket attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip:

      (in statistics only rocket attacks are taken into account, but the total number of victims as a result of rocket and mortar attacks is indicated)
      2012 year:

      October. 47 shellings 125 rockets. 5 wounded. 8 missiles shot down by missile defense system (as of October 29).

      September. 10 shellings 16 rockets. There are no dead or wounded.

      August. 16 shellings 21 rocket. One wounded.

      July. 15 shellings 22 rockets. There are no dead or wounded. One missile shot down by a missile defense system.

      June. 42 shelling 112 rockets. 6 wounded. 15 missiles shot down by a missile defense system.

      May. 4 shelling 4 rockets. There are no dead or wounded.

      April. 8 shellings 9 rockets. There are no dead or wounded.

      March. 104 shelling 214 rockets. 5 wounded. 66 missiles shot down by a missile defense system.

      February. 24 shelling 35 rockets. There are no dead or wounded.

      January. 11 shellings 13 rockets. There are no dead or wounded.

      2011 year. 229 shellings, 386 missiles - three dead, 38 wounded. 34 missiles were shot down by a missile defense system.

      2010 year. 86 shelling, about 100 missiles - one dead, two wounded.

      2009 year. 302 shelling, about 570 missiles - 42 wounded.

      2008 year. 560 shelling, about 1.490 missiles - 7 killed, 162 wounded.

      2007 year. 437 shelling, about 760 rockets - 2 dead, 125 wounded.

      2006 year. 580 shelling, about 1.020 missiles - 2 dead, 36 wounded

      Any other country would have long rolled out with bulldozers and built parking lots ...
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 29 October 2012 16: 03
        +5
        And now, if it’s not difficult for you, look at the losses on the Palestinian side! A very interesting picture is obtained. If you want to be objective, you need to consider other statistics.
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 29 October 2012 16: 23
          -4
          Quote: 1976AG
          And now, if it’s not difficult for you, look at the losses on the Palestinian side! A very interesting picture is obtained. If you want to be objective, you need to consider other statistics.

          I do not compare how many perished among them and how many perished among us. I say that any other country would solve this problem in a harsh way.
          Israel can give a tough answer, but does not limit itself to point strikes, why?
          How would you react to the blows from the side of Mongolia, for example, and would you also be worried about their losses?
          And do not forget that the population density in the gas is 3100 people per sq. Km, about the same as in St. Petersburg, and slightly less than London.
          The population density of Gaza itself is 10, as in Moscow. Most of the shelling, and retaliatory strikes against them, occurs in densely populated areas such as Djibalya or Rafiah refugee camps, where population density reaches 000.

          So their losses could be much greater, not comparable
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 29 October 2012 17: 28
            +6
            And their losses are many times more. But why did I talk about their losses? If they did not consider you to be invaders, if they did not consider their struggle to be fair, they would never begin to act in this way. After all, each side has its own arguments in this dispute. And each side considers the arguments of the other insufficient to make concessions. That is, everyone has their own truth. There are no absolutely right and absolutely wrong sides. You can argue only about the methods of struggle. And the fact that you do not care about their loss, I have no doubt. And another reason why I touched on the issue of losses on both sides is the so-called disproportionate use of force, which the United States likes to blame for disagreeable regimes. They shouted about this during the conflict in Chechnya, and especially during the defense by Russia of the people of South Ossetia from Georgian troops. And they didn’t give a damn that the Georgian army completely destroyed the population of South Ossetia. On the face of a policy of double standards. So there are only two points in favor of Israel:
            1- Israel enjoys US support
            2- Israel's technical superiority
            And that’s it !!!
            1. Beck
              Beck 29 October 2012 17: 57
              -4
              Quote: 1976AG
              If they did not consider you to be invaders, if they did not consider their struggle to be fair, they would never act in this way


              Read the history of the Middle East since 1948. Who attacked whom. And who wanted not just to occupy, but to wipe them off the face of the earth.

              Until 1948, such states as Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Israel (existed in antiquity), Lebanon, Palestine did not exist. It was the territory of the Middle East under the mandate of England and France. On these lands, by the decision of the UN, the above-described states were created.

              1948 year. Arabs of Palestine expelled from their territory about 200-300 thousand Jews to Israel. Jews Arabs living in Israel did not expel. Seichast descendants of those Arabs are full citizens of Israel.

              1948. Arabs (40 million encirclement of Israel) attack 2 million Jews. Israel has resisted. In the same 1948, Jordan conquered Palestine and until 1967 did not grant Palestinian Arabs independence.

              1967. The armies of Egypt, Syria, Jordan prepare to attack Israel, concentrate their troops. Mossad reveals preparations and the IDF delivers a preemptive strike. Arab armies defeated. Only now is Israel occupying the Sinai and Palestine. Israel asks neighbors to sign peace treaties. Arabs recognize the state of Israel and the Jewish right to exist. Jews give up the occupied lands. Arabs do not agree.

              1973. The armies of Egypt and Syria attack Israel. Again the bits. Anwar Sadat concludes that nothing can be done by force and in 1975 Egypt signed a peace treaty with Israel. And Israel returns Egypt to the Sinai. It seems that in 1978 Jordan signed a peace treaty with Israel.

              Subsequently, Israel repeatedly carried out large-scale operations against extremists. But only in response to the seizures of civilian aircraft, the bombing of buses with civilians, shelling of Israeli territory.

              In Palestine at this time, the broadest autonomy. Palestinian Arabs elect their parliament, their executive branch. But organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah do not provide an opportunity for a full-fledged settlement.
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 29 October 2012 18: 36
                +4
                Israel (existed in antiquity)
                Already fundamentally incorrect wording. In ancient times, peoples lived, and not Israel existed. And then it turns out that there was no one like, but Israel already was. In general, you are not to me, you explain it to them. If there was one of the Palestinians on the site now, I’m more than sure that he would have given no less compelling arguments. And then you are trying to convince me that there are almost all the bandits.
                1. Beck
                  Beck 29 October 2012 18: 46
                  -3
                  Quote: 1976AG
                  Israel (existed in antiquity) Already at the root of the wrong wording. In ancient times, peoples lived, and not Israel existed.


                  Just as the Jews left Egypt about 1300 BC and came to the promised land, they gradually created a state with the first kings Saul, David, Solomon. Then the united kingdom fell into Israel and Judea proper. In 60 years BC, Jewish states were conquered by the legions of Gnei Pompey. Then Israel was part of the Byzantine Empire. And only in the 8th century, during the ghazavat, Arabs came to the lands of Palestine. Like that.

                  And I can’t say that some people are all bandits, I can’t, upbringing does not allow. What I wrote above I wrote about extremists.
                  1. 1976AG
                    1976AG 29 October 2012 19: 41
                    +6
                    Maybe I'm wrong, but for me this is not an argument.
                    1- the fact that in ancient times Jews came to this land does not mean that no one lived there. (The promised one is not uninhabited)
                    2- this confirms that this land is not their homeland, i.e. Jews were already there, so somewhere they had another homeland.
                    3- you are trying to build relationships with other nations based on what was in ancient times. But you look at history, if we now begin to establish the borders of states, based on where whose ancestors lived, can you imagine what will happen? And the United States will say a special thank you!
                    So sorry, weak arguments.
                    1. Beck
                      Beck 29 October 2012 20: 34
                      -3
                      Quote: 1976AG
                      So sorry, weak arguments.


                      Respected. I never said that Arabs do not have the right to live where they lived since the 8th century. This is also their homeland. I said that since 1948 there was no need to attack Israel in an attempt to drown their Jews in the sea. It was necessary to live in those territories which the United Nations determined. Then the Palestinian state would be long ago. And Jerusalem would be a free city as the holy place of the three religions as the United Nations defined.

                      Yes, before the Jews the Phoenicians lived there, then the Philistines. In Hebrew, somehow, the Peleshtelians somehow, hence Palestine. But there are no Filimstilians; they have assimilated. And the ancestral home of the Jews is Mezhdurechye, the country of Sumer. Where did they come from in ancient times through the Euphrates, first to Egypt, then back to Palestine.

                      I will say it again. Palestinian Arabs have the full right to reside in Palestine. Just do not have to try to capture the land defined by the UN to others. Now it has gone so far that I don’t know how they will find a way out there. But one thing is certain - the Arabs cannot solve the problem by military force, extremism.
                      1. 1976AG
                        1976AG 29 October 2012 21: 27
                        +2
                        As for the UN, this is one of many, unfortunately, examples where ill-conceived decisions subsequently poison the lives of many generations. Although this applies not only to the UN. The collapse of the USSR alone gave rise to several similar situations. The redistribution of the borders of the subjects of the USSR without taking into account historical places of residence (and without the consent of the population) led in particular to the emergence of such centers of tension as Nagorno-Karabakh (Armenia and Azerbaijan), the division of Ossetia into North and South (the latter generally appeared on the territory of Georgia, which it never I didn’t want to) .. What came out of this everyone knows. Crimea was also illegally annexed to Ukraine. Apparently not wanting to get another hotbed of tension, Russia did not insist on its return. I mean, in such matters all factors must be taken into account, and not stupidly rely on the UN decision. As far as I know, neighboring states were against the creation of Israel within these borders. They did not listen to their opinion. Then why be surprised that you have to live in such conditions? Uninvited tenants. Be patient or negotiate.
                      2. Rumata
                        Rumata 29 October 2012 21: 34
                        0
                        Quote: 1976AG
                        They did not listen to their opinion. Then why be surprised that you have to live in such conditions? Uninvited tenants. Be patient or negotiate.

                        Everything is clear with you ... The UN did not listen to whom to settle on the territory of the English colony ... What interesting scenario would they be for? In which parallel universe?
                      3. Beck
                        Beck 29 October 2012 22: 00
                        -1
                        1976 AG

                        What now to talk about UN decisions. But they were and just had to fulfill them.
                    2. Rumata
                      Rumata 29 October 2012 20: 41
                      +3
                      Quote: 1976AG
                      see the story

                      The War of Independence, here is the story. Even before any Palestinian autonomies and disputed territories, they attacked first. Or are they also patriots here, they recaptured their original land from the Jews of the invaders?
                    3. View
                      View 29 October 2012 21: 30
                      0
                      Everyone came from somewhere. You are not going to give Ural to the Hungarians or to someone else.
                      Israel is the land of the Jews. They have a direct and undeniable connection with her. Arabs came there later, no matter how they tried to wipe and rewrite history.
                      They refused to divide the territory and are now in flight on a larger plane. at 48 they wanted everything, although they were supposed to more than now. War. In flight. Now they want to return to some borders of some 67 years. It was necessary to return to the borders of 67 in 67. Now there are the borders of 2012, and no one has yet come up with a time machine for them
                      1. arkady149
                        arkady149 30 October 2012 22: 26
                        0
                        Quote: View
                        They refused to divide the territory and are now in flight on a larger plane. at 48 they wanted everything, although they were supposed to more than now. War. In flight.
                        ... And after such comments you are surprised: "They don't like us so good and fair." The story is not over, IT CONTINUES. Well, tell me who could say 50-70 years ago that the poor primitive Arabs will become the richest on the planet. Don't feed hostility - feed your enemies, they can become friends. IMHO.
                  2. Kshatriy
                    Kshatriy 29 October 2012 19: 42
                    +4
                    Quote: Beck
                    How the Jews left Egypt about 1300 BC and came to the promised land,

                    .... For almost 50 years, where the Moses of Jews in the desert drove 40 years, archaeologists have been digging, digging, but they haven’t dug anything out .... Why would it ????

                    Quote: Beck
                    Then Israel was part of the Byzantine Empire

                    ... Chur me .chur ..... your insinuations sometimes simply amaze ... with your courage !!!!
                    (to the Western Roman Empire - yes .. (. Pontius Pilate and his sacred: ".... then I wash my hands ...) .. But in the composition ............ nuu .... oooooo is mine ....
                    Quote: Beck
                    And I can’t say that some people are all bandits, I can’t, upbringing does not allow.

                    And what kind of people do you mean .... After all, that the Araps, that the Jews --- the people are one essence - SIMITS ..... you already specify .... (who are you from these two brothers ?? ?)
                    1. Beck
                      Beck 29 October 2012 21: 03
                      +1
                      Kshatriya. My unbending, consistent, very persistent, sometimes harsh opponent.

                      1. Well, I don’t know why in the Sinai they don’t find anything archaeological from the Jews. How can i know. Maybe they’re not digging sand there. Or maybe because the Jews did not build anything in the Sinai. They only wandered and lived in tents for 40 years.

                      2. Well, as far as I know, after the division of the Roman Empire into the Western and Eastern Territories of Palestine, it entered the Byzantine Empire until 717. When part of the territory of Byzantium, in particular Palestine, was torn away from Byzantium and joined the Arab Caliphate.

                      3. There is no doubt that Jews, Arabs, Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians are the peoples of the Semitic language group.

                      And the pattern. All kindred peoples living nearby are intolerant of each other. And all this is due to the accumulation of petty grievances, the first of which is forgotten in the darkness of centuries. But the problems remain. These problems may simply be pervasive or spill over into collisions from time to time.

                      Examples. Kazakhs and Uzbeks. Russians and Ukrainians. Ukrainians and Poles. Serbs and Croats and beyond.

                      If not laziness, read the top of my comment addressed to 1976AG.
                      1. Kshatriy
                        Kshatriy 30 October 2012 18: 39
                        -3
                        Quote: Beck
                        There is no doubt that Jews, Arabs, Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians are the peoples of the Semitic language group.

                        BEK - friend, you and I have a largely similar point of view on what is happening in the modern world ... although we adhere to different political and socio-economic beliefs ... But Yours (an extremely peculiar theory of the origin of races, peoples, ethnicity, language and religion) --- I do not accept because of our discrepancy in the theory of the origin (or origin) of man on our planet Earth (Midgard according to my Vedic conviction) But agree, I never pull you into my "bourgeoisie"? You, however, constantly affirm your all-indispensable rightness and most often deny (immediately and completely) any point of view you dislike ...
                        So in the above sentence, I am with your confidence in the correctness: ".............. peoples of the Semitic language group" ... I do not agree ............ We look in the "old testament" and read --- Noah had three sons Shem, Ham, Japheth "..... So could three sons speak different languages ​​...? (Yes, I have a lot of similar questions to "Old Testament" ....... For example, why do you have 5011 - the year has gone from the end of September of this year, and we have 7521 ???? (where 2500 years have been hidden ...... , do you understand ????) .................
                      2. Beck
                        Beck 30 October 2012 19: 52
                        0
                        Kshatriya.

                        Respected. Here you have gone a little or not a little. I do not impose on anyone either that or. This is an exchange site. And this is good. I am just expressing my point of view. And to accept it or not to accept it, everyone has their own will. I sometimes even emphasize that this is my personal opinion.

                        I am familiar with your worldview of the universe only by the name of religion. And the Old Testament for me is just a literary, historical monument, but by no means an argument of proof .. Since I myself am an unbeliever. Atheist I'm a louse. I will send you one message on the personalities.
                      3. Kshatriy
                        Kshatriy 30 October 2012 21: 28
                        0
                        Quote: Beck
                        And the Old Testament for me is just a literary, historical monument, but by no means an argument of proof ..

                        I except journalism except the standard of extremism ... I just can’t consider it ...
                        Quote: Beck
                        Atheist I'm a louse.

                        About this sect very exhaustively at the end of the 19th century in the book "The Secret Doctrine" by E. Blavtskaya ... the louse was scared ........
                    2. igor67
                      igor67 30 October 2012 23: 40
                      0
                      Kshatriy,
                      Archaeologists unearthed a Roman military base with a Christian symbol in the Arava desert
                      Photo: ZMAN.com
                      The University of Tennessee archaeological expedition made an interesting discovery in Ein Garandal, in southern Jordan. It is in the Arava pustun on the very border with Israel between Aqaba and Petra.

                      Archaeologists have unearthed a complex of Late Roman-Early Byzantine time, consisting of a Roman fort, a bathhouse and a system of aqueducts.

                      In a military settlement, where people lived in the 3rd-6th centuries. AD, a unique number of inscriptions was found, from wall graffiti made with charcoal to the official text painted with paints.

                      The latter contains a list of Nabataean names - this suggests that the garrison of the Roman fort consisted of representatives of local tribes.

                      On the walls of the fort was discovered the so-called “Chrismon,” a common early Christian symbol consisting of the first two Greek letters of the name of Christ, “chi” and “ro”.

                      In addition, late Roman ceramics and a coin from the era of Constantine the Great were found.


                      laughing
                2. View
                  View 29 October 2012 21: 25
                  0
                  It was Israel (and Judea) that existed. I have here the Bible is on the shelf. The truth is true!
            2. Rumata
              Rumata 29 October 2012 20: 38
              +1
              1976AG,
              Quote: 1976AG
              And their losses are many times more.

              Not many times higher than ours, but many times higher than what is now.
              Quote: 1976AG
              On the face of a policy of double standards.

              That's right, you also have double standards. To my question what would Russia do in a similar situation, you did not answer. If now extremists start firing 200 rockets from Georgian territory, Russia will respond instantly and harshly, but when it comes to Israel, "disproportionate use of force" immediately appears. It turns out that a situation in which any country would have bombed everything, Israel works pointwise, spending billions, and at the same time does not respond proportionally.
              The Chechen Wahhabis also had their own truth, and what does this justify the destruction of thousands of Russian civilians during the Chechen wars?
              Your standards are not even double, but quadruple
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 29 October 2012 21: 48
                +3
                Yes, you seem to have understood nothing at all.
                What would Russia do in this situation?
                The answer is:
                Russia is trying by all means not to bring the situation to armed clashes. What does the Chechen Wahhabi mean? Mercenaries from abroad entered the territory of Russia, recruited young people and fought if possible. The local population was not going to separate from Russia. Moreover, we have actually granted independence to Chechnya. They lived their own laws for three or four years, and we did not bother them. But they climbed further to Dagestan. Then it became clear to everyone that the matter was not the Chechens' reluctance to live in Russia, but the US attempt to ruin Russia with the wrong hands. I had to take action. We do not demand Crimea either - we do not want any conflicts, not even armed ones. And you say ... And about the disproportionate use of force, this is the US claim to Russia, not Russia to Israel. Do not confuse.
                1. Rumata
                  Rumata 29 October 2012 21: 59
                  +1
                  Quote: 1976AG
                  What would Russia do in this situation?

                  Quote: 1976AG
                  The answer is:

                  Quote: 1976AG
                  Russia is trying hard not to bring the situation to armed clashes

                  So what would you do? For example, Japanese samurai bullet in Kamchatka because of the Kuril Islands, the actions of Russia?
                  Quote: 1976AG
                  And you say ... And about the disproportionate use of force, this is the US claim to Russia, not Russia to Israel. Do not confuse.

                  Israel is constantly blamed for this! And what is the relationship between the US attitude to what happened in Georgia and Israel? Israel generally refrained from commenting, and then closed contracts with Georgia in order not to spoil relations ...
            3. View
              View 29 October 2012 21: 24
              0
              About the complete extermination of the population of South Ossetia
        2. igor67
          igor67 29 October 2012 16: 23
          +1
          1976AG,
          Please provide the data, in response, Israel carries out precision strikes, read the article as a result of which one terrorist died, Damn, how much does the whole operation cost to raise fighters, launch an expensive missile by one .....
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 29 October 2012 17: 32
            +2
            Unfortunately, I don’t have the data at hand right now, but for the period 2000-2006 there were more than 4000 dead, of which more than 2000 were civilians.
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 29 October 2012 20: 46
              +1
              Quote: 1976AG
              of which more than 2000 civilians.

              The only difference is that no one set a goal to kill civilians. And what do you say to that -
              Since the beginning of the second intifada (October 2000), 1116 terrorist attacks have been committed in Israel, in which 874 citizens were killed and about 14 thousand were injured. At the same time, 18% of them are children.

              These are statistics from 2000 to 2006.
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 29 October 2012 22: 02
                +1
                And these are the consequences of ill-conceived UN decisions adopted without taking into account the opinions of all the peoples living there. What are you surprised at?
                1. Rumata
                  Rumata 29 October 2012 22: 10
                  0
                  Quote: 1976AG
                  And these are the consequences of ill-conceived UN decisions adopted without taking into account the opinions of all the peoples living there. What are you surprised at?

                  What difference does the consequence of bringing it? The Ottoman Empire that gave the lands of England, and the Radish Romans are to blame. It was not possible to do something with this land so that everyone was happy, the UN did everything right, they took into account the opinions of those who lived on it and scored the opinions of neighbors, some of which also helped the Nazis in the recent war. And the Jews and the Arabs wanted the state they received. The Jews were pleased, the Arabs living in this territory, too, the neighboring Arabs did not. They attacked, they lost and they are to blame for the tension in the region for so many years.
                  They refused such

                  Later they got even this -
                  1. dusha233
                    dusha233 30 October 2012 12: 36
                    -3
                    another box from the Jews!
      2. dimanf
        dimanf 29 October 2012 22: 12
        +2
        pictures on the topic.
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 29 October 2012 18: 34
      +7
      Quote: Beck
      Israel tolerates Hamas and Hezbollah by its side only taking into account international norms and observing the provisions of the UN. If there were people like the leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah in the leadership of Israel, then tomorrow there would be only fragments of these two Xs.


      It’s just that there the regular Sharons will profit from military projects, and to cut the same stolen American money, so the state of permanent war is beneficial to the powerful. Nothing new theory permanent revolution (read the war) Leyba Trotsky lives and wins, transformed today into politics controlled chaos. And Israel is just for them watchdog keeping the Arabs in constant tension. "But right now, how I will unchain Israel on you! Look how he kicks with a hoof, spits with foam!"
      Therefore, this situation is beneficial for the world elite living in the United States and they wanted to spit on everyone else, since all funding for both Israel, Hamas and Hezbollah comes from the same source
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 29 October 2012 20: 48
        +1
        Quote: Ascetic
        P, since all funding for both Israel and Hamas with Hezbollah comes from the same source

        Saudi Arabia? Ahh, I understand the United States gives money to Arab sheikhs and Iran, and they sponsor terrorists, brilliant ...
        You have paranoia
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 30 October 2012 00: 03
          +1
          Rumata,

          Despite the recognition of Hamas as a terrorist organization, the Obama administration continues, through Ramallah, financing of its sector, i.e. continues to finance the terrorist activities of Hamas, daily carrying out rocket and mortar attacks on Israel! It finances this organization openly, following Ahmanidzhad (!) (More than $ 1,5 billion has been transferred from Hamas to the US).
          in April 2008, the anti-Israeli pro-Palestinian Jewish lobbyist group J-Street (JS) was created. This brainchild of the Obama administration, sponsored by Soros (and supported by the Peres Peace Center), is active in Washington in collaboration with the Arab lobby on Capitol Hill against Israeli interests and the policies of its government.
          So, in February 2011, J-Street sent representatives to the White House, the State Department and Congress demanding not to veto the proposal of the PLO chairman (Palestine Liberation Organization, Fatah), the “rais” of the Autonomy M. Abbas, to condemn Israel in the UN Security Council for construction in Judea, Samaria, and Jerusalem.
          In May, after the creation of a unified government announced by the PLO (Fatah) and Hamas, the EPAC conference decided that the participation of Hamas (a terrorist organization on the list of the United Nations Council) in the Government of the Autonomy excludes the possibility of peace. JS, by contrast, sent a message to the White House, Congress, and the Department of State demanding that Israel sit at the negotiating table without any conditions.
          The main sponsor of J-Street is George Soros. In addition to this, this organization receives funding (in the form of donations) from the staff of the lawyer service of the embassy of Saudi Arabia, from the US Arab community (through one of its leaders Richard Abado), from the leadership of the Iranian lobby (NIAC, to counter the boycott and sanctions against Iran), and from many other private individuals and organizations of Arab, Turkish, and Iranian descent and / or the left-liberal wing of the Democratic Party. The main leader of the whole complex of anti-Israeli foreign (and domestic) policies of the US administration is President Obama.
          My webpage


          Quote: Rumata
          You have paranoia

          As you can see, not only me, but also with Shames and many other politicians who believe that Soros, Rothschilds and so on. world elite people over the world
          they will give money to anyone and as much as possible, if only it matches their aspirations and plans. Well, thanks for paranoia, you don’t get sick.
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 30 October 2012 00: 32
            0
            Quote: Ascetic
            Despite the recognition of Hamas as a terrorist organization, the Obama administration continues, through Ramallah, to finance its sector).

            Yes, and Israel sells them combustible materials at frantically low prices. All because they are bent without outside help. They cannot provide for themselves, starvation will begin, and there is nothing left to do but to support them.
            Quote: Ascetic
            This is the brainchild of the Obama administration,

            This is your speculation and theory, or of the one whose "work" you copied. Soros won, the legalization of marijuana and methampitamine has been pushing for a year, this does not mean that he is a drug baron ..
            Quote: Ascetic
            As you can see, not only me, but also with Shames and many other politicians who believe that Soros, Rothschilds and so on. world elite people over the world

            All this is a spherical horse in a vacuum. Someone out there believes that the aliens brought the Rus and all nations went from them. I consider this nonsense, and nonsense is a clinical manifestation of paranoia. I do not agree with these fairy tales; I consider them to be delusions of a zombie brain. Here you still need to drag in the Masons, the Illuminati and the ZOG atom, but not the whole picture comes out ...
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic 30 October 2012 00: 36
          +1
          Quote: Rumata
          US gives money to Arab sheikhs and Iran


          Iran - Rothschilds' safe with gold?
          My webpage


          The "big game" of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers - in the light and in the shadow
          My webpage

          How the Rothschilds and Rockefellers got the Fed and whether they can take control of the whole world.
          My webpage

          One of Obama's largest sponsors and leaders is another agent of the Rothschild Zionists - George Soros, a multi-billionaire, financial speculator and a man manipulating many countries, and not only in the territory of the former Soviet Union.- This is following the previous post

          My webpage
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 30 October 2012 01: 07
            +2
            I can find articles on any topic on the Internet, for example,
            Science has found signs that we all live in the Matrix

            Unusual properties of the rays emitted by a UFO

            Putin died of a heart attack

            I mean that these articles do not prove anything. Officially, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, along with the Morgans, do not have even half of Buffett’s finances, but then they immediately begin to tell tales that they own a printing press, and almost all the banks belong to them through third parties, and they bought almost half the planet’s real estate, it’s decided who will be president in the USA over a cup of tea and appoint the heads of China, with a wave of his hand.
            The funny thing is that 90% of these shadow government lists are Jews. with the richest. A Jewish media tycoon is mentioned in every second article, 3 times richer than a Mexican media tycoon, everyone is forgotten, given to Latinos to break into the masses- (
            Z.Y
            When everything is written in this style
            "Only close friendly and family ties of all the heads of the Federal Reserve System with the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, as well as the history of the creation of the Federal Reserve, point to them as the true owners. However, in the 70s of the last century, some information leaked to the press through the UAV UAV UAV UAV" you cannot call it except populism.
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 30 October 2012 01: 21
              0
              ... And how can one give links as evidence, from sites where everything is clogged with articles like -
              Zionism: plans and means

              The Zionist club of "anti-Semitism"

              The Deity of Zionism and Talmudic Judaism

              Vassal of zionism (Obama this time wassat )

              Brutal Jewish legends kill generation after generation

              etc
    3. Kshatriy
      Kshatriy 29 October 2012 19: 13
      +1
      Quote: Beck
      But after all, sometime Israel may not hold back. Then the howl of the extremist remnants will rise again - How is it that the Jews dared to respond to rocket attacks on their cities with a crushing blow.

      ... Bek, as always, you are in the forefront in the struggle for the rights of the Jewish people !!!!! (I am no joke. I respect you and the "pimply" for your "pioneer" readiness in any situation to stand in the "TOP" position .. Commendable desire for the good of the people humiliated by the Holocaust !!!!) ... My dear question to you (only this time we can do without ideomatic expressions?) ... How long has it been "tsikhal" ..., well, or whatever you call it his military units, trampled the population of Lebanon into the sand and almost completely destroyed (with the full connivance of the UN) the infrastructure of this state (the filthy Russian barbarians, after your brilliant campaign, for a long time restored bridges, hospitals, roads, etc.), and when It was???? If you pretend to be impartial in your conclusions ..... do not include direct transmission of double standards !!!!!!!!!!
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 29 October 2012 20: 54
        +2
        Quote: Kshatriya
        trampled on the sand the population of Lebanon and almost completely destroyed

        Honor you, so in the morning the Prime Minister got up on the wrong foot and decided to attack Lebanon, without any preconditions, rocket attacks on the north of the country, capture of soldiers, terrorist attacks on the border ...
        I still don’t understand why one country gives a neck to another because of the events in Ossetia, this is normal, and the other enters Lebanon for similar reasons, it immediately becomes atrocities, the destruction of infrastructure and other old words ...
        1. Kshatriy
          Kshatriy 30 October 2012 21: 36
          -1
          Quote: Rumata
          Honor you, so in the morning the Prime Minister got up on the wrong foot and decided to attack Lebanon, without any preconditions, rocket attacks on the north of the country, capture of soldiers, terrorist attacks on the border ...
          I still don’t understand why one country gives a neck to another because of the events in Ossetia, this is normal, and the other enters Lebanon for similar reasons, it immediately becomes atrocities, destruction of infrastructure and other staash words ..

          When Israel trampled Lebanon into the sand, the whole western flattering .... oh sorry liberalsthe clapped her hands !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Great RUSSIA smelly Georgia in the mud and didn’t trample .... And it stinks how much was from you ???????????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 30 October 2012 23: 10
            +1
            Quote: Kshatriya
            And it smells from you how much was ???????????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            From U.S??? Israel has not commented on Georgia in any way !!
            And if you think that Israel clapped their hands, then you are not at all aware of what was actually
      2. Beck
        Beck 29 October 2012 21: 45
        0
        Kshatriya.

        To the question of Lebanon, Rumata answered you.

        My only say is the IDF-CHIHAL is not mine.

        Sometimes evil also takes me. You look around the house, the Jews live the best. And why so? You come to the conclusion that they are SMART. It’s sacrilegious to say this, but I’ll say it. Jewish fools for 2000 years of pogroms, persecution, ruin, murder died out. Only smart and fit were left.

        The annoyance took why the Kazakhs are not like that. Then I realized - it’s necessary to go through 2000 years of pogroms. But what kind of people will do that now.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 30 October 2012 00: 28
          +1
          Quote: Beck
          Sometimes evil also takes me. You look around the house, the Jews live the best. And why so? You come to the conclusion that they are SMART. It’s sacrilegious to say this, but I’ll say it. Jewish fools for 2000 years of pogroms, persecution, ruin, murder died out. There were only smart and fit ones left. The annoyance took, why the Kazakhs are not so
          - Beck, I'm sorry, but close your mouth! You don’t decide for me and don’t take out the ratings. And desire does not need pogroms. Just shut up. And change your nickname. Call yourself Moya. A flag, by the way, too.
          1. Beck
            Beck 30 October 2012 09: 02
            +1
            Quote: aksakal
            - Beck, I'm sorry, but close your mouth! You don’t decide for me and don’t take out the ratings. And desire does not need pogroms. Just shut up. And change your nickname. Call yourself Moya. A flag, by the way, too.


            No apologies. And I asked you when to open my mouth?

            You know how to read letters, now learn to read the meaning. So that I personally decide for you? Yes, in FIG, you are one hundred years ahead of me. I expressed my point of view and not for you personally. Walked by and blow on down the breeze.

            Who cares about the personal nicknames of members of the forum. He wants this, that one. Or do you have permission to take? Can’t you tear appendicitis? Look from the bile burping fecal inversion of intestines do not earn yourself,

            I see you took the cardboard epaulets for jealousy. So you go ahead, dad, to get the Marshal. You’ll probably arrange one.

            My comments are not for you personally. Do not read. Go away. You will be calm. You won’t worry. You will save health.
        2. Kshatriy
          Kshatriy 30 October 2012 21: 44
          -1
          Quote: Beck
          To the question of Lebanon, Rumata answered you.

          Sorry, but the answer "rumats" is not an answer .... I commented it intelligibly ?????
          Quote: Beck
          Jewish fools for 2000 years of pogroms,

          I'm sorry mtl-man, but you are tired of manipulation ... Do you consider yourself a cultured person ???? Read A.I.Solzhenitsin "200 years together" ... enlighten a little ... maybe after that we'll talk about the pogroms on my part of your people ...
          I'm tired of your "kagal" ... under international flags .... "Don't believe the Jews - they'll be deceived" G.V. Plekhanov !!!!!!!!!!!!!! .....
          1. Kshatriy
            Kshatriy 30 October 2012 22: 27
            -1
            As I understand it, when there is nothing to argue for the kagal, there remains - the last argument - to put an unreasoned minus ...... (the descendants of the great Jewish people --- I explain it once again for those sitting behind the three-layer composite armor of the Merkava tank !!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The opinion of your kagal is absolutely indifferent to me (I cannot find another name for your partnership) !!! ! I despise your opinion !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the way, I have never met in my life - smart Jews .... Sly, greedy, knocked down in a pack, ready to spit and trample any person you dislike ... but as much as you like !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  8. pribolt
    pribolt 29 October 2012 14: 08
    +4
    Author + Glad Clinton leaves good
    1. stariy
      stariy 29 October 2012 14: 59
      +2
      Quote: pribolt
      Glad Clinton is leaving

      sorry just myself and not forward feet
  9. sergo0000
    sergo0000 29 October 2012 15: 05
    +1
    Thanks to Oleg for the review!
    As always at 5 plus!
  10. vladimir64ss
    vladimir64ss 29 October 2012 16: 19
    +1
    Tehran (represented by Hamas) focused on the Israeli nuclear plant. and the Jews thought they were the most cunning. Thank you for the review.
  11. gregor6549
    gregor6549 29 October 2012 17: 07
    +2
    In order to call the shooting "hail" in the direction of Dimona an attack on a nuclear reactor, one must have a very developed imagination. And the response to a serious attack on Israel's nuclear facility would be such that Hamas would have to be spoken of in the past tense.
    There is no doubt that Iran, in the event of an Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear facilities, will not fail to use the combat potential of both Hamas and Hezbollah, but this is already a full-scale war in the Middle East and how it will end one can only guess now. According to experts, the death toll in Israel alone could reach about 10000 people, although the "big optimists" estimate the death toll of about 500 people. I'm not a specialist in statistics like this. For me, and one lost on either side is a lost universe. Moreover, how many of these sides will be there, Allah alone knows. There will be few hunters to fight, and only the lazy will not want to warm their hands in the conflict. To talk about the merits or demerits of the Patriots, Iron Domes and other non-Iranian, Israeli, or US-based ones will be possible only after (which God forbid), but not before.
    1. igor67
      igor67 29 October 2012 17: 12
      +2
      gregor6549,
      If, hypothetically, Hamas and Hezbollah strike, perhaps there will be more than 500 victims, but 10000 brute force. Rear management, as probably in all countries, is formally ready, really not. After 2006, I do not believe the service of the rear.
  12. Kshatriy
    Kshatriy 29 October 2012 19: 23
    +5
    .............. “I am going to leave soon after the inauguration; this is my plan. ” Head of American Diplomacy ............................................... .............
    ..........
    ............
    .... For 4 (four) years there has been no clear US policy ... (.... WOW --- YOOOOOO ..... after watching the video where the old grandfather is being raped and killed, live on air .. ..Except as "the joy of a cannibal", I can't call my tongue ..) .. And if there was no diplomacy in America, then there could not be a head of diplomacy a priori ... !!!
    Review - bold + ....
  13. Indigo
    Indigo 29 October 2012 22: 23
    +1
    there are still those who want to ....
  14. dusha233
    dusha233 30 October 2012 12: 23
    -1
    With unbridled audacity and even arrogance, Israel recently celebrated the 60th anniversary of the occupation of Palestine and the genocide of Palestinians around the world. The Western world, enraptured by propaganda, applauds the frankly Nazi, misanthropic ideology.
    The journal New Book of Russia (No. 7, 2008) gives a brief chronicle of the terrible but heroic history of the Palestinian people. I bring this material, important for everyone, with some reductions.

    For the Palestinian people, the dramatic events of 1948 or the Nakba is a true tragedy that resulted in the complete destruction of the political, social and economic infrastructure of the Palestinian people, which turned into refugees scattered around the world. As a result of the tragedy of 1948, the number of destroyed Palestinian cities and villages reached 531, while more than 800 thousand Palestinians were expelled from their homes and lost their property, which accounted for more than half of those living on their historical territory.

    Israel was created on these ruins, capturing 78% of the territory of historical Palestine. Later, the West Bank was annexed to the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, and the Gaza Strip moved to the Arab Republic of Egypt.

    The tragedy of Palestine in 1948 is not only a colossal-scale ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians, it is also a blatant violation of the political, humanitarian and personal rights of the Palestinians, and in particular their right to return to their homes in their native land, from where they were expelled, as well as their right to self-determination.

    Describing the events of 1948, Lebanese historian Konstantin Zreik was the first to apply the definition of Nakba, Tragedy, Disaster, Disaster, in his book What is Nakba ?, published in August 1948. It is with this word - “Nakba” - the Palestinians call the tragedy of their expulsion from their native land and the destruction of most of the signs of their national community. Later, the word "Nakba" was added to many foreign dictionaries to refer to this tragedy.

    Ethnic cleansing

    The ethnic cleansing by the Zionist organizations and Israel against the Palestinian people in 1948 is one of the largest ethnic cleansing in modern history, not only in terms of the number of victims, but also in terms of the political consequences for the Middle East region and for the world as a whole.

    Ethnic cleansing is banned by the international community and is considered a war crime and a crime against humanity aimed at expelling as many Palestinians as possible from their land in order to make possible the creation of a Zionist “state” in Palestine. This was done through the application of policies and mechanisms prohibited by the international community, as well as through a special system of events and propaganda, which included pre-prepared military plans that openly called for the expulsion of Arabs and unhindered aggressive attacks on the rights of the Palestinian civilian population, to reprisals and directly to forced exile, robbery and destruction of Palestinian property.

    for example, at the end of October 1948, the authorities issued an order to all the institutions and authorities of Israel, as well as the army leadership in the north, on the need “to make every effort for the speedy action to clear open areas from hostile elements in accordance with the issued decrees; as for the population of open areas, it is necessary to facilitate their eviction. ”
    1. dusha233
      dusha233 30 October 2012 12: 25
      -1
      Israeli troops encircled the Arab population and continuously bombarded them, forcing the population to flee their homeland, which indeed led to men, women and children fleeing the shelled areas in search of safer places. Then “Israel” began to apply the policy of “shots with the aim of killing” on the front lines on the border, in order to prevent Palestinian refugees seeking to return to their homes “arbitrarily seeping” into Palestine.

      It should be noted that actions on ethnic cleansing began even during the time of the British mandate and took place under the auspices of the British troops, that is, even before the proclamation of “Israel” in May 1948. So, before this date and before the entry of Arab troops into Palestine, About 400 Palestinians were expelled, accounting for about half the number of Palestinian refugees in the whole of 1948.
    2. tambu
      tambu 30 October 2012 17: 12
      0
      antisimit ...
      1. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 30 October 2012 22: 15
        0
        Quote: tambu
        antisimit ...

        ... "Don't touch Mishka Shifman,
        With Bears away doubts
        In every generation,
        Vaughn grandfather is paralyzed,
        Former pest doctor
        And I have an anti-Semite on an anti-Semite !!!!!!!!!!!!!! "
        V.S. Vysotsky ..... Something like this ... YES !!!!! ..... kagal ...., AAAA ?????
      2. dusha233
        dusha233 31 October 2012 10: 13
        -1
        tambu- European Jewry
  15. dusha233
    dusha233 30 October 2012 12: 28
    +1
    Bloody slaughter

    One way to implement an ethnic cleansing policy in Palestine was through massacres of massacres against the Palestinian people, which were intended to intimidate Palestinians and force them to flee their homes. Bloody massacres took place in all corners of Palestine during the entire period of the Nakba - both before the creation of "Israel" and after that.

    So, for example, on April 9, 1949, Zionist organizations staged a bloody massacre in the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, killed more than 200 Palestinians, among whom were old people, women, children. The horror of what happened in Deir Yassin was amplified by rumors of other similar bloody massacres and fueled an atmosphere of fear and mistrust among the Palestinian population, which, in turn, led to an increase in the scale of Palestinian forced flight from their native land.

    In October 1948, the “Israeli” army committed at least nine such bloody acts of violence, robbery and massacre against a Palestinian civilian population, and the bodies of the dead Palestinians were buried in one common grave. The purpose of these bloody actions was to force as many Palestinians as possible to leave their homes ...

    "Minority" in their own land

    In the Palestinian territories in which "Israel" was created, only about 150 thousand Palestinians remained, who in the shortest possible time became a "minority" in the territory of the Jewish state. Moreover, about 30-40 thousand of them are refugees who have left their homes in Palestinian villages, but they (like other Palestinian refugees) are still forbidden to return to their villages.

    The Israeli government has pursued a policy of racial discrimination against this group of Palestinian people by issuing special laws and decrees that confiscate Palestinian refugee property and prohibit the return of refugees to their homes and villages. Such discrimination is reinforced through a “double standard” regime against Jews and non-Jews. So, despite the fact that after 1948 the Palestinians received Israeli citizenship, until 1966 they were under direct military control.

    Palestinian cities and villages destroyed, property of their inhabitants plundered

    During 1948, Israeli forces systematically destroyed Palestinian cities and villages, resulting in a total of 531 completely destroyed Palestinian settlements. It should be noted that the destruction plan of Palestinian-abandoned cities and villages was one of the six components of the plan adopted in June 1948. The Minister of Finance and the Prime Minister of Israel in order to prohibit Palestinian refugees from returning to their villages. But many years after the cessation of hostilities, a large number of Palestinian villages were destroyed.

    So, in the mid-sixties, “Israel” “completed” the implementation of what was called “cleaning up national centers in“ Israel ”, and the names of more than 500 Palestinian villages abandoned by Palestinians since 1948 were erased from“ Israeli ”maps the Arabic names of a large number of settlements have been replaced by Hebrew names.

    The Palestinian village of Käfr Baram turned into Kibutz Baraam, the village of Saasa became known as Kibutz Saasa, the village of Safuria became Tsiburi, and the village of Al-Shazhara (“tree”) became “Elanet” (“tree” in Hebrew). And so it has happened with many Palestinian villages.

    “Israel” has also adopted a number of special laws with a racist connotation with the aim of confiscating land and property belonging to Palestinian refugees and the remaining Arab Palestinian population, as well as for the subsequent conversion of Palestinian land and property into the property of an “Israeli” state, t .n. Jewish National Fund and the Jewish Agency.
    1. dusha233
      dusha233 30 October 2012 12: 30
      0
      The Continuous Nakba

      The tragedy of the Palestinian people - the Nakba does not stop even today, and this happens for two reasons: firstly, the confrontation that led to the dramatic events of the 1948 Nakba still exists in various forms, such as the ongoing expulsion of Palestinians from their land; an occupation; bloody slaughter and discrimination. And, secondly, today's Nakba consists in the fact that Palestinians who are direct victims of the 1948 tragedy and their current descendants, today continue to wait for a solution to their problem and the exercise of their rights to return and self-determination.

      After 1948, large-scale operations to expel Palestinians from their land continued in various parts of Palestine. The June war of 1967, as a result of which “Israel” occupied the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, led to a new, second-largest wave of expulsion of Palestinians. 400 Palestinians were expelled from their land, and half of them were 000 refugees.

      Subsequently, Israel continued its policy of expelling Palestinians, both within the Zionist entity and in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. This was accomplished in various ways: by destroying Palestinian homes, confiscating their land, and also by building Israeli settlements and a racist separation wall and by depriving the Palestinian population of their right to reside in occupied Jerusalem, etc., so that more and more Palestinians become wards UN Refugee Agency.

      The number of Palestinian refugees and displaced persons today is about 7 million, representing about three quarters of the entire Palestinian people. And they still cannot exercise their right to return to their native land with which they were expelled, they cannot also restore their property and receive compensation for their suffering ...
  16. dusha233
    dusha233 30 October 2012 12: 41
    -2
    here is a map of Israel
    1. gregor6549
      gregor6549 30 October 2012 16: 58
      +2
      Look, little respected soul with a number but no name. Stop driving a blizzard about the poor and peace-loving Palestinians and the terrible villains of the Israelis. I don’t know about you, but I happened to be in Egypt, and in Israel, and in the OAU and talk to Jews and Arabs, including the Palestinians. More free life than the "poor" Palestinians and especially their elite probably no one else in the world. Shoot from time to time towards the state, which gives you water, gas and electricity for FREE and receive millions of dollars in aid from all over the world. Moreover, a whole army of idlers feeds on the Palestinians' "mountain", which zealously defends their rights. Why not defend if they feed well for it and don't bother looking for work. (On this occasion, there are a number of wonderful articles by Russian journalist Yulia Latynina, read it) Of course, these free dollars do not reach all ordinary Palestinians, but this is already an internal problem of the Palestinians themselves.
      About "peacefulness" of the Palestinians. Wherever the Palestinians found themselves, they tried to subjugate the power of their host country. Somewhere it happened, like in Lebanon, somewhere, like in Jordan, it failed. Therefore, NONE of the fraternal "Arab" states is so unwilling to accept them. They, these states, have enough of their own bandits.
      About Palestinian statehood. Never talk about a Palestinian state in the presence of ordinary Palestinians or they will make you laugh. They historically developed as nomadic free tribes who lived where they wanted, never paid anyone any taxes. They are not going to pay them in the future. And without taxes, the state cannot exist. It’s necessary to maintain state authorities, law enforcement agencies, provide education and healthcare, create our own infrastructure (roads, energy, water and gas supplies, etc.? After all, foreign aid will immediately stop or cut back to a minimum. They pay them for terror) and not for peaceful work.
      Further. There is such a thing as the status quo. There were wars, the borders of states were redrawn, and what was once alien territory became its own. Accordingly, millions of refugees and displaced persons appeared. Then somehow everything settled down and everyone is trying not to wake up this issue, realizing its danger. But what will happen if we now begin to raise the question of revising the results of these wars and borders? I am afraid that the disintegration of individual states (what is already happening, including in Russia) cannot be dispensed with. Here it smells like a new world war. Why is there a special policy being pursued with regard to Israel all the time? Imagine that the inhabitants of some autonomous region of Russia offended by deportation would suddenly begin to bombard neighboring Russian territories with rockets and kill Russian citizens. What reaction would I follow? Yes, it is very simple, plumbing, with soaking particularly dissatisfied shooters in the outhouse, together with their habitat.
      And the last thing. I am not a Jew or a Palestinian. But I am tired of this endless pseudo-patriotic anti-Semitic chatter at the very least. It was with such a "chatter" that German fascism began. Everyone knows how it ended. Including those guardians of the "purity of the Russian people" who were shot at Babi Yar and other similar places together with "unclean" Jews
      1. tambu
        tambu 30 October 2012 17: 15
        +1
        young man ... normally pushed so)))
      2. Beck
        Beck 30 October 2012 20: 23
        -1
        To Gregor.

        Somehow laziness was on the Souls long outpourings to answer, this is how many points. You are not too lazy Gregor. Bravo.
        1. dusha233
          dusha233 31 October 2012 09: 37
          0
          Nothing when the Jews begin to prepare a coup in Kazakhstan, then you will dance!
          1. Beck
            Beck 31 October 2012 10: 55
            0
            To the soul.

            This is what the Jews have nothing more to do in order to organize coups in Kazakhstan. They would save Israel. Well, there are Jews in Kazakhstan. Live, one or two in the government were. Naturally they show compatriot feelings for each other. And if you had met a Russian in France you would not have laughed at him. In the 30s, a Jewish musician came from Leningrad to Almaty. I did not sit in the capital. He traveled all over Kazakhstan and collected 250 folk tunes that could disappear in time. Based on these melodies, he wrote the first operas of Kazakhstan, became the author of the anthem of the Kazakh SSR. The name of the Jew Brusilovsky Eugene Grigorievich. And that spread rot for me?
            1. dusha233
              dusha233 1 November 2012 11: 04
              0
              Oh, these tales, oh, these storytellers ....., you look from the same breed ....
      3. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 30 October 2012 21: 54
        -1
        Quote: gregor6549
        It was with this kind of "chatter" that German fascism began. Everyone knows how it ended. Including those guardians of the "purity of the Russian people" who were shot at Babi Yar and other similar places together with "unclean" Jews

        Listen, my dear, why did you get so nervous if you are not a Jew? Live those live! To each his own!. Glory to the Family !!! Death to a freak .... and for whom the truth will show time ....
        Aww - kagal, so twitching .... ????? Shit rip off the skull cover ??? Drink cash-vodka --- relieve pressure !!!!!!!!!
      4. arkady149
        arkady149 30 October 2012 22: 46
        0
        Do not confuse the people (population, herd, cattle) with those who make their "little gesheft" on everything, on any tragedy.
  17. dusha233
    dusha233 30 October 2012 17: 19
    -4
    Listen to the not respected gregor6549 with an incomprehensible name and numbers! Bring this nonsense to someone else !! Maybe they will believe it !!

    It remains only to list the top of German fascism and its belonging to the Germans?! Or to the Jews! And why was the war started ?!

    Read the book "Hitler the Founder of Israel" you will understand a lot - it is in the net
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 30 October 2012 17: 54
      0
      Quote: dusha233
      Read the book "Hitler the Founder of Israel" you will understand a lot - it is in the net

      =))))))
      You still remember the Protocols ... Since when "read the book" is an indisputable argument. In Estonia, they publish books about the genocide of the Balts, like they were killed by the millions. But the book was written, therefore it is true, the USSR destroyed several million people on purpose!
      Horror
      1. Kshatriy
        Kshatriy 30 October 2012 22: 08
        0
        Quote: Rumata
        You still remember the Protocols ..

        I can easily remember you my dear "protocols of the wise men of Zion" !!!!!!! Even if this is a fake imposed by the ROYAL GUARD ... I STILL KNEEL BEFORE THE FARE OF THE IMPERIAL GEANDARMERIA OFFICERS ... disputes in any situation .... (you are always calculated --- gentlemen "kagal") ....
  18. dusha233
    dusha233 30 October 2012 18: 48
    0
    For you, any argument is not an argument; have you read this book? Look at who is written and when !!!
  19. dusha233
    dusha233 30 October 2012 19: 33
    0
    “They themselves were of Jewish origin or were related to Jewish families: the Führer and Reich Chancellor Adolf Hitler; his deputies are Reich Minister Rudolf Hess and Reich Marshall Hermann Goering; Reichslaiter NSDAP Gregor Strasser, Dr. Joseph Goebbels, Alfred Rosenberg, Hans Frank and Heinrich Himmler; Reich Ministers von Ribbentrop (who once drank on the Brudershaft with the famous Zionist Chaim Weizmann, who died in 1952 as the first President of Israel) and von Keidell; Gauleiters Globochnik (Jewish exterminator), Jordan and Wilhelm Kube; senior SS leaders who participated in the extermination of Jews, Reinhard Heydrich, Erich von dem Bach Zelewsky and von Keidell 2nd; Hitler's bankers and sponsors until 1933, Ritter von Strauss (vice-chairman of the Nazi Reichstag) and von Stein; Field Marshal and Secretary of State Milch, Assistant Secretary of State Gaue, physicists and old party members Philippe von Lenard and Abraham Zau; old party members Hanfstaengel (head of the foreign press department) and prof. Haushofer. " [8Dierrich Bronder, Bevor Hitler kam, Hans Pfeiffer Verlag 1964, S. 204.]