The Minister of Defense of the Netherlands clarified the issue of "delivery" of Soviet T-72 tanks to Ukraine

In the recently announced deal between the Netherlands and Ukraine for the supply of Soviet tanks The T-72 has been clarified, Kyiv will receive tanks, but not from the Dutch Ministry of Defense, since this country does not have Soviet equipment. The delivery itself is much larger and not only the Netherlands is involved in it.

Ukraine will receive 90 Soviet tanks from the storage of the Czech army that have undergone modernization, and the Netherlands and the USA will pay for this very modernization and the supply of tanks to Ukraine. Each country will pay for 45 tanks. This was announced by the Minister of Defense of the Netherlands Kaisa Ollongren during a speech in the country's parliament. At the same time, this is presented as a supply of armored vehicles by the Netherlands.

The Netherlands will provide Ukraine with heavy military equipment. The total cost of the next aid package is 120 million euros, of which 45 million euros is assigned to T-72 tanks.

- quotes the Ministry of Defense of the Netherlands her words.

According to the data provided, the Czech Republic will restore and modernize 90 tanks with funds allocated by the Netherlands and the United States, after which it will begin to supply them to Ukraine. The first batch should arrive in December of this year.

Meanwhile, the US has announced a new $400 million military aid package for Ukraine. This is the first in the new fiscal year (started on October 1) targeted allocation of budget funds under the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) program for the purchase and production of new weapons and military equipment from industry for subsequent transfer to Ukraine. The new delivery includes: 45 modernized T-72B tanks with improved optics, communications and protection; 1100 drones-kamikaze Phoenix Ghost; 40 river armored boats; secure radio communication systems.

In addition, the Americans are funding the repair and modernization of the HAWK air defense system and 250 M1117 ASV wheeled armored vehicles (from storage) for subsequent deliveries.

Comments

[Aaron Zawi]

Well, that's what the members of the forum thought yesterday.

[Lech from Android.]

Members of the forum also assume that they can be delivered to Ukraine either by rail or by sea ... if there is no opposition from our command.

[dmi.pris1]

And when was this opposition? Carry what you want and how you want. The bridges are intact, the locomotive depots are intact.

[Charik]

Grain trucks, I go in and out on a call, I return under the guarantees of the enemy-enemy

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Members of the forum also assume that they can be delivered to Ukraine either by rail or by sea ... if there is no opposition from our command.

to the Ukrainian border. And then there are vehicles.

[belovvladimir]

Interesting! And who will pay for this buffet after, not Zelya from his corman, but the people, this is really bondage for Ukraine and the people, there are people who earn money in the war.

[PC]

If Ukraine disappears as a state, then there will be no one to pay. Unless our Great one declares Russia the successor of Ukraine.

[aglet]

"... if there is no opposition from our command"
calm down everyone, he (opposition) will not be

[PC]

What are you talking about? We have been waiting for this opposition for seven months.

[Silver99]

Well, who else considers Zeman pro-Russian? Yes, all of them there are smeared with one world in their Russophobia ((("Prague says" 1945 has long been forgotten, only the fierce hatred of 1968.

[Zorov]

Quote from Silver99

Well, who else considers Zeman pro-Russian? Yes, all of them there are smeared with one world in their Russophobia ((("Prague says" 1945 has long been forgotten, only the fierce hatred of 1968.

Do not do good, you will not get evil .. Here it is gratitude to the Soviet soldiers for saving them from fascism ... There was a good Stalin! Oh Russia..
Here is another Eastern proverb .. "Do good to a man, kill him!"

[PC]

Did anyone else consider Zeman pro-Russian? Czechs have a genetic hatred for Russians.

[aglet]

"only fierce hatred"
"we liberated them from fascism, and they will never forgive us for this"

[BMP-2]

Czechs in their own style: "revere the traditions" of World War II ...

[Bayun]

New Nuremberg should be above Soros and his associates. It would be nice to hang up some of this brethren in Moscow, in addition to the bastards from Washington, Brussels, London, Kyiv. It is already obvious that this world scum is playing off peoples, inciting world hatred of all kinds and profiting from the deaths of people.

[Third district]

Quote: Bayun

New Nuremberg should be above Soros and his associates. It would be nice to hang up some of this brethren in Moscow, in addition to the bastards from Washington, Brussels, London, Kyiv.

Our negotiators-negotiators will not pull anyone up. Even if they didn’t deal with the lousy mercenaries. Who were caught in Mariupol. They said there would be a strict trial, a cage had already been built in the courtroom. They were released as a gesture of goodwill. Abramovich gave them an iPhone and took them to Turkey for rehabilitation. It is clear as daylight, while traders stick their noses into state and military affairs, there will be nothing good.

[Bayun]

I would like to argue ... but I agree. By facts - such is the homespun truth of life.

[svp67]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Well, that's what the members of the forum thought yesterday.

And yet the question remained. T-72B, these tanks were not produced abroad and were delivered to a limited number of countries, the main buyer is India, they were also delivered to other countries, to the same GDR, but not in very large quantities, so scrape together 90 of these tanks across Europe it must be tried. So it is possible that they are purchased outside of Europe, and then sent to factories in the Czech Republic and Slovakia

[Aerodrome]

Quote: svp67

to scrape together 90 such tanks in Europe, this should be done.

come on Sergey... Hunchback arranged everything that happens, slag in his mouth, we threw hundreds...thousands there. Doesn't anyone remember how the GSVG (ZGV) was taken out into the open field and left the soldiers? our ELITE...! I always considered our Soldier_ELITE. and this muck "labeled", you need to dig up = (Gorbachev) trample on, and wash it off the pavement with pigeon droppings. You see now what this pig has done to the WORLD! Eternal you female dog frying pan...UGH....

[Alexander_Snegirev]

Quote: svp67

So it is possible that they are purchased outside of Europe, and then sent to factories in the Czech Republic and Slovakia

If only the T-72B is purchased in Ethiopia.

[rotmistr60]

Ukraine will receive 90 Soviet tanks from the storage of the Czech army that have undergone modernization, and the Netherlands and the USA will pay for this very modernization and the supply of tanks to Ukraine.

The information from the Dutch side simply confirms what was said yesterday when discussing an article on this topic. True, some participants did not agree with this and considered it necessary to find out where the tanks came from. I hope everyone is happy today. The Czechs are "cutting coal in the Stakhanov style" (supplying weapons), as they believe, forging a victory for Ukraine. But how will it count for them?

[aglet]

"The Czechs are 'chopping coals like Stakhanov's way' (supplying weapons), as they think they are forging a victory for Ukraine. But how will this be credited to them?"
just like that they chopped coal and the Wehrmacht. but they were forgiven. comes out in vain!

[Aerodrome]

Quote: aglet

"The Czechs are 'chopping coals like Stakhanov's way' (supplying weapons), as they think they are forging a victory for Ukraine. But how will this be credited to them?"
just like that they chopped coal and the Wehrmacht. but they were forgiven. comes out in vain!

right now it’s called “business” ... that’s when an “Indian” comes to your gun store, you won’t sell him a few rounds from a “winchester” with wrapping ...? * sell ... and in a few minutes, the same or more expensive, sell to a ranger, and then to a bandit ... and then to a housewife ... this is "business", there is no conscience.

[sifgame]

For such a "business" in 1945, they had to pay in full, as they say, nothing personal in their business. And they also helped raise the country.

[Kaufman]

Nafika the Czechs generally have so many tanks? They have two dozen tanks, five helicopters and 50 armored vehicles there for the entire army above the roof is enough! The territory is tiny , well developed and populated ! Where to place so much equipment? And why?!

[Lech from Android.]

Quote: kaufman

The territory is tiny , well developed and populated ! Where to place so much equipment? And why?!

What do you mean why?
With their furious Russophobia, tanks should be in every household.

[Kaufman]

Why do they need an army at all? I only heard about the White Czechs who actively draped the entire Civil War to the east. I haven’t heard anything else about the Czech army! Let them brew beer calmly, they don't need an army

[cat Rusich]

Quote: kaufman

Why do they need an army at all? I only heard about the White Czechs who actively draped the entire Civil War to the east.

In September 1917, the Czechoslovak Corps (2 divisions and 1 brigade) consisting of Russian army - 39000 Czech bayonets
In 1918, Soviet power was brought down in Siberia ...
In 1919, the Czechoslovak Corps was renamed the "Czechoslovak Army in Russia" (ChSA)
In 1920, the "White Czechs" betrayed Admiral Kolchak ... and left Russia, taking with them part of the gold reserves of the Republic of Ingushetia

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: kaufman

Why do they need an army at all? I only heard about the White Czechs who actively draped the entire Civil War to the east. I haven’t heard anything else about the Czech army! Let them brew beer calmly, they don't need an army

The Czechs fought normally both in WWI and in WWII. Czechoslovak military units were both part of the Red Army and part of the Allies. The fact that their political leadership in 1938 turned out to be eggless is not the fault, but the misfortune of the people.
Today, the Armed Forces of the Chechen Republic are very small, because they are, firstly, an integral part of NATO, and then, as we see, NATO forces, with the exception of the United States and France, did not prepare for war at all and rather resembled the Reichswehr of the Weimar Republic.

[tralflot1832]

Armored boats will be able to carry out combat missions in the spring. So there is time. And the Czechs who rally will repair the tanks, as usual.

[pharmacist]

Of course, not everyone protests. But the protesters are repairing no less, exactly in between rallies.

[aglet]

"Oh, and the protesters are repairing no less, exactly in between rallies."
I wonder if they will repair these tanks in white overalls, or in black ones?

[tralflot1832]

In rainbow colors without one color - blue, because they are !!!

[Fisherman]

I agree on the boats, but the problem is that these are decommissioned, heavily used boats and the condition there is terrible, putting them in order normally takes several months, they will probably be ready by spring, and new ones are not even riveted by spring .... for tanks - curious , what will they be able to "upgrade" in a month? Most likely, the money will be plundered, and the dill will be supplied with the same "modernized" ones as the psheks supplied 273 tanks - without working protection and with partially inoperative equipment, and often with only two old batteries? The tanks there require a lot of maintenance in order to restore the combat capability of these tanks for more than one exit - it takes 2-3 months (if there is a spare part), and a good modernization will take several months, so by spring ... by spring ... if they survive ... as for kamikaze drones, they haven’t been produced for dill yet, of course they will give a small batch from the warehouse, but 1100 pieces will have to be riveted for a year and a half (each drone must be made for several months). So until spring.

[Luminman]

It would be nice to stir up some kind of terrorist attack on the factories of the Czech Republic or the Netherlands. Where are these Petrov and Bashirov?

[tralflot1832]

Nothing needs to be done with Holland, they will drown themselves if they continue to pump gas in the North Sea. You just need to scientifically prove that gas fields have nothing to do with it!

[aglet]

"Where are these Petrov and Bashirov?"
Yes, on vacation for now, in Karlovy Vary

[Retvizan 8]

Can all these Dutch, Czechs, Poles and other British and Americans get away with throwing more and more new weapons and resources into the furnace of war?
Anyway, there will be an answer sometime.
Not from us so from the Lord!

[marat2016]

What are you talking about? No one in the Russian Federation was responsible for the transfer of the "Crimean" weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine ... And you are talking about respected Western partners .... They have supplied and will continue to supply, because the guarantor is a rag ....

[cokol-xnumx]

but how are our "allies" like China (for example, it will be a shame to remember about the CSTO) - they "overwhelmed" us with bulletproof vests and quadrocopters as a sign of friendship and understanding ?! or is it only Iran and North Korea that are quietly selling weapons and nothing more ???...

[stelltok]

but how are our "allies" like China

I am interested in another question. Why the Russian Federation buys products from the Netherlands and the Czech Republic.
The Netherlands and the Czech Republic produce what you can do yourself. Last year, the Russian Federation imported a lot of products from the Netherlands and the Czech Republic, although all this can be imported or purchased from the CIS.

[AC130 Gunship]

So, nE can be imported

[Reptiloid]

Quote: cokol-161

but how are our "allies" like China

China is not an ally.
China is also a "partner".

[rocket757]

The Minister of Defense of the Netherlands clarified the issue of "delivery" of Soviet T-72 tanks to Ukraine

nothing new, in general, the geyropah is again afraid of Russia to the point of stupefaction.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: rocket757

The Minister of Defense of the Netherlands clarified the issue of "delivery" of Soviet T-72 tanks to Ukraine

nothing new, in general, the geyropah is again afraid of Russia to the point of stupefaction.

First, with all the resources, cheers again, they are afraid, so they respect.
And then, why are they supplying weapons to the enemies?
Well, about the sanctions are only for the good, and let's also remember more

[rocket757]

The question is not even that they are afraid ... big, strong, formidable people are always afraid, in general.
Indigenous, TO STUPIDITY!!! why would?

[Romanenko]

I hope someday these tanks will pass through the streets of Amsterdam, boomerangs will return.

[aglet]

"I hope someday these tanks will pass through the streets of Amsterdam"
if only they didn’t pass through Moscow. and then the calm is somehow bad, the second month

[iouris]

The Minister of Defense made it clear: they fight with money. And then we didn't know. Even Napoleon repeated that two things are needed for war: money and money again. And how can the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation answer this?
There is no money, but you stay there. And good mood to you.

[Dante77]

There is a mistake in the article. These are not tanks from the warehouses of the Czech army, but from the warehouse of a private company czechoslovakia group, which will also modernize them. It will probably be similar to the Scarab. What surprises me quite a bit is that the first 26 tanks should already have been be delivered in December, that's a decent pace.

[VladimirNET]

Quote: svp67

T-72B, these tanks were not produced abroad ... so in Europe it is necessary to try to scrape together 90 such tanks. So maybe they get them outside of Europe

In Czechoslovakia - there was their own production of T-72 tanks:
(1981 such tanks were produced in 93-1817)
https://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=4094

As for the number of tanks they have - at the beginning of the NWO:
938 tanks (541 T-72 and 397 T-54/55), source:
https://militaryarticle.ru/zarubezhnoe-voennoe-obozrenie/2000-zvo/6699-suhoputnye-sily-chehii

As for the T-72B, either this is a "blunder" in the article, or the Czech Republic "mows" under us.

[PC]

Our commander-in-chief, apparently, did not understand that all these so-called Western countries understand only force. And not only Western ones. They gave us snot, and all partners and allies disappeared somewhere.

[AC130 Gunship]

In the Czech Republic, there are a lot of things in warehouses. It is not for nothing that Petrov and Boshirov have recently fussed there. For example, Georgia, not so long ago, is either T55. whether the T62 was sold by the Soviets. New, from conservation