Opposing the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great, the mayor of Odessa changed his position

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Opposing the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great, the mayor of Odessa changed his position

Residents of Odessa online voted on the proposal to dismantle the monument to Empress Catherine II. The majority of respondents rated this idea positively.

Such a message appeared in the official Telegram channel of the Odessa administration.

The majority of Odessans who voted supported the idea of ​​dismantling the monument from Ekaterininskaya Square

- it says.

The head of the city administration, Gennady Trukhanov, proposed moving the monument to a park of the imperial and Soviet past, which does not yet exist. Thus, the mayor of Odessa, who previously opposed the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great, changed his position.


Most likely, his decision was influenced by the results of a poll organized by the city council, during which 3914 residents of Odessa spoke in favor of removing the monument. Now one more voting on the given question, this time among members of the City Council is necessary. And since its head is in favor of this idea, he will certainly be supported by other deputies, like him, who are members of the "Trust deeds" faction. Supporters of this political movement make up the majority in the city council of Odessa.

Personally, I will vote for the dismantling of the monument and its transfer to the park of the imperial and Soviet past, the idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbcreating which I spoke about a few months ago

- Trukhanov outlined his position.
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    1. +10
      November 5, 2022
      Where will they take you, mayor of Odessa? Obviously not to the park, but to the cemetery. If you're lucky
      1. +2
        November 5, 2022
        So he understands it. The only question is how soon he will go there from the city, let them transfer it, it will be safer when Odessa is liberated.
        1. +6
          November 5, 2022
          Quote from Mitos
          will be more whole when Odessa is liberated.

          As long as there is a grain deal , Odessa will not be liberated . am
          1. +5
            November 5, 2022
            Most likely, his decision was influenced by the results of a poll organized by the city council, during which 3914 residents of Odessa spoke in favor of removing the monument. Now one more voting on the given question, this time among members of the City Council is necessary. And since its head is in favor of this idea, he will certainly be supported by other deputies, like him, who are members of the "Trust deeds" faction. Supporters of this political movement make up the majority in the city council of Odessa.

            In the occupied Bandero-Nazi Odessa under the GESTAPO regime of the MI6 agent Zelensky, one could not even dream of another solution for online voting!

            The Ukrainian people are intimidated since the burning alive of Odessa residents on May 2, 2014 in the House of Trade Unions. And even with the MI6 agent Zelensky, there’s no need to say so!

            Additionally, Odessa has 1 inhabitants. (010)
            Of them only 3914 people voted for the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Greatconstituting the statistical majority of participants in online voting!
            And that's all 3914 / 1010237 = 0,0039 = 0,4% of all residents of Odessa!!!
            Even if we take into account only the adult population of Odessa, who has the right to vote, then this and that will be no more than 0,8%!

            CONCLUSION. "for" by the number voted EXACTLY the so-called. "administrative resource" of the British agent MI6 Zelensky in the city of Odessa.

            1. 0
              November 5, 2022
              Exactly. And it is better to keep the monument, and not just destroy it. Odessa without Catherine is not Odessa.
            2. +1
              November 5, 2022
              Tatyana
              ...... only 3914 people voted for the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great

              The results of their voting and legitimacy are a big question: Who voted there? - Bandera's shortcomings, fascists, pro-presidential bastards and football ultras. This result was quite predictable. I imagine what would happen to those who would vote against.
          2. 0
            November 6, 2022
            Yes, bullshit, the question is: if Odessa is cut off by land from Nikolaev to Transnistria, how does this interfere with dry cargo ships? If this prevents Saloreikha from continuing to ship - his problem, we will finally ship our grain from the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov
      2. +1
        November 5, 2022
        Would rather. With a population of 1 people in Odessa, 010 were in favor. This is about 000%. And the mayor of the city seriously considers this the opinion of the inhabitants of Odessa?
        1. +1
          November 5, 2022
          Quote: Igool
          Would rather. With a population of 1 people in Odessa, 010 were in favor. This is about 000%. And the mayor of the city seriously considers this the opinion of the inhabitants of Odessa?

          Most likely, he received information from someone that they would not take Odessa in the near future.
          That's why he flunked.
      3. +2
        November 5, 2022
        This is all because on the territory of Ukraine, two of the most ancient professions, politicians and God forgive me, have merged into one - “Ukrainian politician”, changes his shoes in a jump, is ready for any meanness for money)) Odessa has recently been especially rich in such potters and Trukhanovs) )
    2. +3
      November 5, 2022
      You need to start voting on the ROI:
      "You are for the exchange of the monument to Taras Shevchenko (near the Ukraine Hotel in Moscow) for a monument to Catherine in Odessa."

      O. Buzina wrote well about the underpoet T. Shevchenko in a bright pamphlet "Ghoul Taras Shevchenko".
      In short, it says that a Russian officer saved him from military service, for which the Ukrainian "repaid" with fierce hatred and theft, dull drunkenness.
      1. +4
        November 5, 2022
        Why did Taras Shevchenko not please you? What's wrong?
        1. 0
          November 5, 2022
          Quote: Aleksandral
          Why did Taras Shevchenko not please you? What's wrong?


          Is our Comrade Kim from CIPSO? Will we fight with monuments? Do we have other things to do? Has everything been redone? Have you found an enemy in the face of the deceased poet T. Shevchenko?
          1. 0
            November 5, 2022
            Monuments to Potemkin, Suvorov, Ushakov, Margelov were removed in Kherson a few days ago. The pedestals alone remained.
            Locals say that the remains of Potemkin have disappeared.
            1. 0
              November 6, 2022
              Quote from solar
              Monuments to Potemkin, Suvorov, Ushakov, Margelov were removed in Kherson a few days ago. The pedestals alone remained.
              Locals say that the remains of Potemkin have disappeared.


              Haven't disappeared. Evacuated because a big problem is brewing and we decided not to risk everything that is dear to us. Because the solution and the consequences of solving the problem are not yet known, but they may surprise everyone unpleasantly.
      2. -4
        November 5, 2022
        for the exchange of the monument to Taras Shevchenko

        No exchange! Just demolish with an excavator!
        There is no need for any monuments to the Selyuks in Russia ...
        1. +2
          November 5, 2022
          Here in Simferopol we have a monument to Shevchenko, to whom and what does he interfere with? During the Crimean spring, one monument was demolished on our peninsula, this is to Hetman Sagaydachny in Sevastopol, and because it was imposed as a response to the monument to Catherine the Great., We have Shevchenko, there is a monument to Lesya Ukrainka in Balaklava, what's the problem?
          And the second question, well, I'm a descendant of the Selyuks, is that bad? A purebred Selyuk, for example, Sidor Kovpak, or Ivan Kozhedub, and with such an attitude you did not go far from Bandera.
          1. +4
            November 5, 2022
            Here in Simferopol we have a monument to Shevchenko, to whom and what does he interfere with?

            I'll give you a hint. What did Shevchenko do for Russia? Shevchenko is a typical product of Soviet propaganda, who was pulled out of oblivion just to show what a bloody tsarist regime was...
            1. -2
              November 5, 2022
              And what did Churchill and Roosevelt do for Russia? In honor of the latter, a street in Yalta is named, and both of them, along with Stalin, have a monument by Tsereteli. And we also have monuments to the British who fought against us, the Turks, the French, it would be Italians, but that chapel unmasked a military facility, there is a German memorial - to demolish everything in FIG?
              1. -4
                November 5, 2022
                demolish everything in FIG?

                You don't have to demolish everything. It's better for you to go to Ukraine. There you will be more comfortable...
                1. +1
                  November 5, 2022
                  Go to the peacemaker site and there you will see my last name, sofa military, so it seems to me that it’s better for you to shut up your mouth.
                2. 0
                  November 5, 2022
                  Wow, how many Russian Natsiks do we have, they immediately downvoted, yes, the light?
                  1. +2
                    November 5, 2022
                    Wow, how many Russian Natsiks do we have, they immediately downvoted, yes, the light?

                    No, it's just a lot of jumps in VO ...
                    1. 0
                      November 7, 2022
                      Once again, how do Russian skakuas differ from Ukrainian ones? The last thing to fight with the monuments
                      1. 0
                        November 7, 2022
                        The last thing to fight with the monuments

                        It's all about the monument...
                        1. 0
                          November 7, 2022
                          But you opposed the monument to Shevchenko, is it okay that this is a Russian citizen? And was he able to show his talent precisely thanks to the Russian nobles and as an artist, by the way, very intelligent?
                          In Crimea, only 3 monuments have been demolished for all the time, the already mentioned Sagaidachny, on the eve of joining Russia, a monument to Lenin was broken in Simeiz, it has already been restored, or it also did not need to be restored and the monument to Mokrousov and the Red Landing Forces in the village of Morskoye was blown up 20 years ago by the Tatars. Mokrousov advocated their deportation. Should this be taken down?
                          And then people like you are surprised, why are the Siberian Tatars against the name of the airport after Yermak, and where does separatism come from in Tatarstan, where do full-time supporters of independent Ingria come from, and so on.
                        2. 0
                          November 7, 2022
                          But you opposed the monument to Shevchenko, is it okay that this is a Russian citizen?

                          He was an unreliable subject. If he lived at the present time, he would ride on the Maidan. And what talent is he? Selyuk, who was elevated by the Bolsheviks. Something like the Kazakh Dzhambul ...

                          where does separatism come from in Tatarstan

                          Nationalism and separatism following it are inevitable for any state...
                        3. 0
                          November 7, 2022
                          Not everyone has such a developed culture, Shevchenko is just a genius against the background of the Crimean Tatar rhyming, and if you don’t like what the Bolsheviks did in terms of culture, then be consistent, throw the stories of Shostakovich, Sholokhov, Green, Drunin, Dunayevsky into the dustbin. It was from the Selyuks, only Russians, that many compositions were born in the 30s, which are known even now, such as evenings near Moscow, or fragrant clusters of white acacia.
                          Nationalism and separatism following it are inevitable for any state...

                          The Bolsheviks, for the most part, managed to solve such a problem, as the tsars, by the way, solved this problem before capitalism.
                        4. 0
                          November 7, 2022
                          throw the stories of Shostakovich, Sholokhov, Grin, Drunin, Dunayevsky into the dustbin. It is from the villagers

                          These Selyuks, unlike Shevchenko, made a great contribution to culture and worked for the good of the state. Unlike the same Shevchenko ...
                        5. 0
                          November 7, 2022
                          Well, tell me the Russian Selyuks who contributed to Russian culture from the serfs, can you manage 10 people?
                          And I don’t understand what is anti-Russian in Shevchenko’s work, have you read it? Or how about Pasternak: I didn’t read it, but I condemn it?
                          I read that it was mandatory in the school curriculum, and Kobzar Shevchenko, this is a solid tome.
                        6. 0
                          November 7, 2022
                          By "selyuk" I mean the intellectual abilities of a person, and not his rural arial ...
                        7. 0
                          November 7, 2022
                          No, this is urban arrogance, what does potential mean? Well, you create an analogue of the Kobzar in Russian, paint pictures and compare your potential and Shevchenko. If you look at his work, then anger, when it is present, is directed against serfdom, as I understand it, are you for it?
                        8. 0
                          November 7, 2022
                          Yes, he did not speak out against serfdom, but against mockalis! Classic narrow-minded selyuk...
                        9. 0
                          November 7, 2022
                          Where? Muscovites in his time were soldiers, and they were treated very badly everywhere in the peasant environment. And the fairy tale "Porridge from an ax" is not at all funny.
        2. +1
          November 5, 2022
          Quote: Luminman
          No exchange! Just demolish with an excavator!
          There is no need for any monuments to the Selyuks in Russia ...

          Jump, excuse me, have not tried it yet?
          Well, or burn tires?
    3. +5
      November 5, 2022
      Most of the citizens of Odessa who voted supported the idea of ​​dismantling the monument from Ekaterininskaya Square...

      Personally, I will vote for the dismantling of the monument and its transfer to the park of the imperial and Soviet past, the idea of ​​​​creating which I spoke about a few months ago.
      - Trukhanov outlined his position.


      It turns out that there are no Russians left there, according to a Nazi with a Russian surname and their Telegram channel.
      If this is true, then it's worse for them.
      1. +2
        November 5, 2022
        Yes, the people there are mostly intimidated, especially after the burning of several dozen people in the house of trade unions in 2014! They are simply afraid!
        1. +2
          November 5, 2022
          Don't tell me, there is enough pro-Ukrainian contingent as in Kharkov, especially among the intelligentsia. Before the House of Trade Unions, where were all these Odessans? Looks like the best of them died then.
      2. -11
        November 5, 2022
        Quote: tihonmarine
        It turns out that there are no Russians left,

        You might think that Catherine II (Sophia Augusta Frederick of Anhalt-Zerbst, who ascended the Russian throne as a result of a palace coup) was Russian.
        1. +11
          November 5, 2022
          Not Russian Catherine, did a hundred times more for Russia than any other Russian.
          1. -2
            November 5, 2022
            Quote: Vladimir Sedov
            Not Russian Catherine, did a hundred times more for Russia than any other Russian.

            She introduced Russia to Western culture (for which the West sings her praises), and generally advertised herself well. She tried to please the Western "thinkers" of that time, favored Western artists (including to the detriment of Russians), populated the country with foreigners.

            As for what she did specifically for the Russians ... it was not without reason that the Pugachev uprising took place precisely under her.
            1. +2
              November 5, 2022
              And again, make nonsense, we have temples of the 13th century built by Italians, and the most famous Italian fortress, if anything, is called the Kremlin in a short word. Nothing bothers you, does it?
        2. +5
          November 5, 2022
          Quote: Reptilian
          You might think that Catherine II (Sophia Augusta Frederick of Anhalt-Zerbst, who ascended the Russian throne as a result of a palace coup) was Russian.

          This non-Russian queen did more for Russia than many other Russian leaders like Nicholas II, Yeltsin and Gorbachev
        3. +6
          November 5, 2022
          Quote: Reptilian
          You might think that Catherine II (Sophia Augusta Frederick of Anhalt-Zerbst, who ascended the Russian throne as a result of a palace coup) was Russian.

          Stalin was also not Russian, but he and Catherine did more for Russia than anyone else.
          Or do you think Mazepa, Bandera and Shukhevych did something good for Ukraine, something good???
          1. -4
            November 5, 2022
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Stalin was also not Russian, but he and Catherine did more for Russia than anyone else.

            Tell us, please, at least one competent state administrator, whom Stalin left behind.

            The degradation of the state administration of the USSR (up to the subsequent collapse) after the death of Stalin is for the most part the "merit" of Stalin himself.
            1. +1
              November 5, 2022
              Quote: Reptilian
              Tell us, please, at least one competent state administrator, whom Stalin left behind.

              L.P. Beria for example. True, he was just a state administrator, but he was not a politician. And others too. For which they paid, losing the antigeny of state administration, but to the experienced politician Khrushchev.
            2. +3
              November 5, 2022
              Quote: Reptilian
              Tell us, please, at least one competent state administrator, whom Stalin left behind.

              And what did your Mazepa, Bandera and Shukhevych leave besides a pile of corpses and burned villages and cities, or maybe such Nazi managers as Turchinov, Poroshenko and Zelensky.
        4. 0
          November 5, 2022
          Maybe this is a Russian empress of German origin, what's the problem?
    4. +7
      November 5, 2022
      Mdyaya ... What did this (censorship) monument to Catherine 2 do? hi
      1. +4
        November 5, 2022
        Quote: VORON538
        Mdyaya ... What did this (censorship) monument to Catherine 2 do? hi

        So de-Sovietization has been announced with them - and Catherine was the largest figure in the Soviet government ...lol
    5. +11
      November 5, 2022
      Four thousand people on the Internet have voted for something and this determines the opinion of a millionth city. Right, this is all funny.
      1. +1
        November 5, 2022
        You are right, only 4 thousand of the most stubborn ones, who took part in the voting for a whole million-plus city, the rest having a different opinion were simply afraid to express it. Not all is lost in the glorious Hero City of Odessa. Now the main thing is that there should be no "gestures of good will" on our part.
        1. 0
          November 5, 2022
          I present a picture-grandmother 80 years of commercials sits on the Internet and votes.
          1. +2
            November 5, 2022
            Quote: Alexander 3
            I present a picture-grandmother 80 years of commercials sits on the Internet and votes.

            What's funny here ? Yes, he is on the internet. in Russia, many grandmothers rummage on the Internet, from seventy-five and more ..
            1. 0
              November 5, 2022
              Quote: 30 vis
              What's funny here ? Yes, he is on the internet. in Russia, many grandmothers rummage on the Internet, from seventy-five and more ..

              Yes perishing juvenile something any more in the internet sits.
              And not only in Ukraine, but also in Canadian Banderastan.
              The fact that 3914 "Odessites" are from Odessa does not follow from anywhere. hi
      2. +4
        November 5, 2022
        Quote: AlexGa
        Four thousand people on the Internet have voted for something and this determines the opinion of a millionth city. Right, this is all funny.

        It is, of course, understandable, the occupation, but - under the Fritz, the inhabitants of Odessa spoiled their blood, during the revolution the criminal world adequately parried blows from the authorities of all stripes. Odessans, wow! Isn't it time to help the Red Army?! Or a Russian come, bring a surprise...?
        1. -1
          November 5, 2022
          Well, not all. Even young, relatively young, do not rummage there. I mean, don't rely on the internet alone.
          1. 0
            November 5, 2022
            Quote: Alexander 3
            Well, not all. Even young, relatively young, do not rummage there.

            Of course not all. Both young and old. Rummaging those who need it, interesting, useful ... informative. Those who need to communicate with loved ones through video, and other applications. ..
        2. PC
          -1
          November 5, 2022
          Odessans have forgotten their heroes. Soon they will think of renaming Yasha Gordienko Street.
          Ah, Odessa, Odessa! Glorious Russian city!
          1. 0
            November 5, 2022
            Quote: p-k
            Odessans have forgotten their heroes. Soon they will think of renaming Yasha Gordienko Street.
            Ah, Odessa, Odessa! Glorious Russian city!

            Former future Russian city! But then it would be necessary to clean it thoroughly, otherwise the "Guss" and "Surzhiks" will run in, T-shirts will be torn for Mother Rus' ...
    6. +2
      November 5, 2022
      condoms, what else to say? but you can’t expect anything else from them, it’s a pity that our command blew the chance to take Odessa at the very beginning ....
      1. +1
        November 5, 2022
        Here it must be said that for the entire millionth Odessa, there were only 4 thousand stoned. What is not very bad.
    7. +2
      November 5, 2022
      The head of the city, Trukhanov, simply went crazy to defend his position and quickly changed his shoes! Otherwise, they will be accused of being pro-Russian and taken to the SBU!
    8. +2
      November 5, 2022
      These polls are worthless on a market day.
      And tovariSCHa of course "politely" corrected the higher authorities.
      But he is clearly insuring himself, in which case he can say, they say that everyone was for the demolition, but I saved it so that I could return it.
    9. +5
      November 5, 2022
      Lord, what have they done to the people!
      What kind of degradation do people have?!
      Of course, demolish the monument to Great Catherine and put on a pedestal a sculpture of some nonentity, because among the new Ukrainian heroes there are a great many of them: Mosep, Bandera, maybe one of the fresh Parash or even Zelensky ...
      Sala Ukro-ine!
      fool negative
      1. +4
        November 5, 2022
        Quote: Retvizan 8
        Of course, demolish the monument to Great Catherine

        By demolishing the monument to Catherine, Ukraine recognizes that Odessa is not a Ukrainian city, but a Russian one.
      2. +1
        November 5, 2022
        Quote: Retvizan 8
        maybe one of the fresh Parash or even Zelensky ...

        A monument to Zelensky with a piano would look original. good
      3. 0
        November 6, 2022
        Of course, demolish the monument to Great Catherine and put on a pedestal a sculpture of some nonentity


        So in 1920, the communists demolished this monument. And now on the square there is not the original monument, but a remake of 2007.
    10. 0
      November 5, 2022
      The devil was in trouble, apparently he realized that the mayorship in the new administration of the liberated Odessa did not shine for him. He will try, of course, to declare that he heroically tried to save the monument by cunning, transferring it to the "park", but ... simpletons are all in the mirror!
    11. +2
      November 5, 2022
      Of course, this is unpleasant for me, but let them take it down.
      Let them forget their history and turn into pig feces...
    12. +1
      November 5, 2022
      Opposing the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great, the mayor of Odessa changed his position

      After the Faberge eggs are pressed in the dungeons of the Ukrainian Gestapo, you will change not only the position, but also the orientation.
    13. 0
      November 5, 2022
      And then, I want to live. And then this banderva will stop at nothing and will bang the family itself.
    14. 0
      November 5, 2022
      Opposing the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great, the mayor of Odessa changed his position
      . What happens to those who demolish monuments, distort the history of their people, their land???
    15. +1
      November 5, 2022
      It’s easier for them to lick the ass of the Yankees and put them in Odessa, Lincoln or Washington, or both in a row laughingWhat will Duke say???
      1. 0
        November 5, 2022
        If Duke were alive, his hair would stand up.
    16. +1
      November 5, 2022
      Look at the world at these narrow-minded people, to put it mildly, and their mother probably didn’t drop them in childhood, but beat her blunt head against the wall.
    17. +2
      November 5, 2022
      The majority of Odessans who voted supported the idea of ​​dismantling the monument from Ekaterininskaya Square
      Personally, I will vote for the dismantling of the monument and its transfer to the park of the imperial and Soviet past, the idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbcreating which I spoke about a few months ago
      And what if the monument to Catherine ll is demolished in the park of culture or dismantled with destruction, then light will appear in Ukrainian Odessa?! Or will Deribasovskaya street become more even?! Then the monument to Duke Rechelier will also be demolished in the park of culture, so that Catherine ll would not be bored, they will warm each other on the coming cold Ukrainian nights. feel bully laughing
      1. PC
        +1
        November 5, 2022
        Wait, and they will get to the duke. Will be next after Catherine.
    18. 0
      November 5, 2022
      He changed his position! My!! Ahahahahaha...
    19. -1
      November 5, 2022
      The mayor is as much of a slut as Kim is. Nothing, the time will come and they will ask him
    20. 0
      November 5, 2022
      Trukhanov is a budget thief. Of the ordinary members of the organized criminal group of the 90s, the position is a fighter, today a millionaire and not a hryvnia, two criminal cases, one without options. There was such a plant of the "January Uprising", when it built good cranes in the USSR. The Khokhlomangers successfully cut it and then sold it for a penny, then at the "genes", not at the very, of course, but at the suggestion of "assistants" like Vugelman-Abramovich, a "revelation" happened - in the building of the plant management, near the cemetery, to make a "European city hall". The city bought this building for huge money, from its own people. Modestly, approximately 5-7 million dollars were overpaid and divided. He was "saved" by the Odessa court and a hook in the balls from the authorities in Kyiv. There is no politics in this bald head, from the word "absolutely." After the VVP said "for Odessa" and the monument, everything went at an accelerated pace, drooling fly for kilometers. Pictured an internet survey. In a million city, "adesyti" voted for demolition by 3000+ votes. Banderyo is a bad version of the Bolsheviks. Those have already been demolished and renamed, and where are they now?
      1. PC
        -1
        November 5, 2022
        How well laid out! Indeed, "adesyti".))
    21. 0
      November 5, 2022
      Then the unreasonable inhabitants of Odessa will carry him in his arms to put him in his place, to the anthem of Russia.
      1. PC
        -1
        November 5, 2022
        And they will loudly, tearing the vests on their chests, swear their love for Russia and Mother Empress!
    22. +2
      November 5, 2022
      It seems to me that this news should finally bury the illusions about "one people", "common history", "they are waiting for us there." The inhabitants of the outskirts have destroyed everything connected with Russia and are ready to continue inventing their own history, language, goals. "The people deserve their rulers."
      1. 0
        November 5, 2022
        Quote: Vladimir80
        It seems to me that this news should finally bury the illusions about "one people", "common history", "they are waiting for us there." The inhabitants of the outskirts have destroyed everything connected with Russia and are ready to continue inventing their own history, language, goals. "The people deserve their rulers."

        Exactly. Demolition of the monument to Catherine - Rubicon. This is not a statue of Lenin in the village of Rasteryaevka. And I understand everything, but UNESCO will remain silent?
        And so it turns on the tongue that Odessa should then become de-Russified. That is, the same as it was before Catherine. Does everyone understand what I mean?
      2. -1
        November 5, 2022
        you think this is an important addition from you
    23. 0
      November 5, 2022
      After the demolition of the monument to Catherine, it is necessary in response to demolish all the monuments to the Heavenly Hundred, Bandera and other homosexuals with Geranium-2.
    24. +2
      November 5, 2022
      Nothing of value will remain in Odessa without this monument.
      "A pub has opened on Deribasovskaya.."
      1. 0
        November 6, 2022
        Yes?!
        Curiously, how did Odessa live before its installation in 2007?

        After all, the Bolsheviks demolished this monument to the devil's grandmother in 1920, and then the entire Soviet government did not have it. And in 1965, the so-called "Monument to the Potemkinites" was erected on this site. And only in 2007, instead of Potemkintsev, this remake was installed.
    25. 0
      November 5, 2022
      The people who betrayed their kind, I’m sure, like Western propaganda, there were no votes, they put pressure on the mayor seriously
    26. PC
      0
      November 5, 2022
      Do they listen to 4000 thousand people in Odessa with a population of one million? Complete. idiocy.
      1. +1
        November 5, 2022
        Quote: p-k
        Do they listen to 4000 thousand people in Odessa with a population of one million? Complete. idiocy.

        If 3914 is the majority, then less than 8000 participated in total, the rest became "drummed" or pissed.
    27. -3
      November 5, 2022
      woe to the vanquished, we reap the fruits of the hands of effective managers. Unfortunately, we have a lot to drink....
    28. +1
      November 5, 2022
      Odessans are generally flexible people and will adapt to any government. In the Second World War in Odessa, there was no ghetto, no executions and repressions, and no red underground. But shops, casinos and brothels for the occupiers were working properly. But when, after the war, Marshal Zhukov undertook to purge this swamp, the whole of Odessa reared up. And when there was a famous burning of people in the House of Trade Unions, then Odessans poured gasoline into bottles for the Ukronazis. And if in six months the Russian Army comes to Odessa, then all Odessans will provide evidence that they were in the armed underground against the Ukronazis.
      1. +1
        November 5, 2022
        Finally, the hostages taken from the Jews were hanged by the occupying authorities after the explosion of the headquarters on Marazlievskaya ... So you don’t know anything at that time and for that city, so keep quiet in a rag; if you want to talk about the high, then try to explain why the Jewish cemetery was plowed up under the Soviet regime (and they made a park there, yes).
        1. 0
          November 5, 2022
          I generally in my post did not touch the Jewish ethnic group. But if you are talking about it. Without diving deep into history, just watch the famous film "Liquidation". Practically show the post-war period in Odessa. More prisoners of war walk the streets. But all the Jews are there. They live for many years in their apartments. They are also on the criminal wanted list. They are looting military warehouses. They are building socialism. As if the war and the Holocaust had not touched them.
          1. 0
            November 5, 2022
            I don’t care what is shown in the film - my family lived in Odessa then, during the occupation, so I know everything from the very first hand.
    29. 0
      November 5, 2022
      Trukhanov is a well-known political prostitute.
      By the way, do they have one military outfit for two with Zelensky?
    30. VBH
      +3
      November 5, 2022
      Was in Moscow the other day, met women from Odessa in a hotel. They say: "We would have left for Europe, but we are close to retirement age, what to do there. And here at least the Russian language is more or less clear." Perhaps only I am so lucky, but for some reason I notice that many (to put it mildly) of the migrants go to Russia, not because Russia is close to them, but ONLY because nothing shines for them in Europe. That is why dissatisfaction is regularly expressed here. And we keep dreaming about how they are waiting for us "there" with flowers.
    31. +1
      November 5, 2022
      That one is never even close not from Odessa, but the ragulya that has come in large numbers = invaders, as in Kyiv, who hate these cities, because they will never become their own there and are trying to lower them to the level of their filthy farms.
      Hence all the troubles.
      Odessa suffered the biggest losses in people, see the World Club of Odessans.
      The Russian city of Odessa with a wonderful international population, never Ukrainian, it's time to return home to RUSSIA!!!
    32. 0
      November 6, 2022
      Quote: Reptilian
      Catherine II (Sophia Augusta Frederick of Anhalt-Zerbst

      Interestingly, but the demolition of the monument to the Duke de Richelieu and the Potemkin Stairs has not yet been voted on?
    33. 0
      November 6, 2022
      Online voting, yes, one person from different IP addresses under different logins will vote and voila. And then in Odessa more than a million inhabitants and a little more than three thousand voted, and the opinion of the rest?
    34. 0
      November 6, 2022
      The revival of the tradition of the communists to demolish the monuments to the damned tsarism?

      All fans of the USSR must be delighted?
      After all, the Bolsheviks demolished this monument to the devil's grandmother in 1920, and then the entire Soviet government did not have it. And in 1965, the so-called "Monument to the Potemkinites" was erected on this site.

      But what is now standing on Ekaterininskaya Square is a remake of 2007.
      1. 0
        November 7, 2022
        So they had Maidan with some kind of unhealthy "Bolshevik fervor". Break the old, build the new "sometime later." And, of course, "who is not with us is against us (crossed out) that Muscovite."

        The Bolsheviks - at least later the country was restored and strengthened. And the "maydanuts" only plundered everything and blew it.
        1. 0
          November 7, 2022
          And the "maydanuts" only plundered everything and blew it.


          Well, if we discard these verbal clichés and instead look at the facts: since 2016, Ukraine's GDP has grown at a much stronger pace than, for example, in Belarus, where the "strong business executive" dad rules.
          Dry numbers - their GDP doubled from 2 to 2016 (from $2021 to $93 billion) and even exceeded the "domaidan" level of 198 ($2013 billion).

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