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Opposing the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great, the mayor of Odessa changed his position

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Opposing the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great, the mayor of Odessa changed his position

Residents of Odessa online voted on the proposal to dismantle the monument to Empress Catherine II. The majority of respondents rated this idea positively.

Such a message appeared in the official Telegram channel of the Odessa administration.

The majority of Odessans who voted supported the idea of ​​dismantling the monument from Ekaterininskaya Square

- it says.

The head of the city administration, Gennady Trukhanov, proposed moving the monument to a park of the imperial and Soviet past, which does not yet exist. Thus, the mayor of Odessa, who previously opposed the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great, changed his position.


Most likely, his decision was influenced by the results of a poll organized by the city council, during which 3914 residents of Odessa spoke in favor of removing the monument. Now one more voting on the given question, this time among members of the City Council is necessary. And since its head is in favor of this idea, he will certainly be supported by other deputies, like him, who are members of the "Trust deeds" faction. Supporters of this political movement make up the majority in the city council of Odessa.

Personally, I will vote for the dismantling of the monument and its transfer to the park of the imperial and Soviet past, the idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbcreating which I spoke about a few months ago

- Trukhanov outlined his position.
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  1. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 5 November 2022 15: 36
    +10
    Where will they take you, mayor of Odessa? Obviously not to the park, but to the cemetery. If you're lucky
    1. Myths
      Myths 5 November 2022 16: 11
      +2
      So he understands it. The only question is how soon he will go there from the city, let them transfer it, it will be safer when Odessa is liberated.
      1. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 5 November 2022 16: 21
        +6
        Quote from Mitos
        will be more whole when Odessa is liberated.

        As long as there is a grain deal , Odessa will not be liberated . am
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 5 November 2022 17: 21
          +5
          Most likely, his decision was influenced by the results of a poll organized by the city council, during which 3914 residents of Odessa spoke in favor of removing the monument. Now one more voting on the given question, this time among members of the City Council is necessary. And since its head is in favor of this idea, he will certainly be supported by other deputies, like him, who are members of the "Trust deeds" faction. Supporters of this political movement make up the majority in the city council of Odessa.

          In the occupied Bandero-Nazi Odessa under the GESTAPO regime of the MI6 agent Zelensky, one could not even dream of another solution for online voting!

          The Ukrainian people are intimidated since the burning alive of Odessa residents on May 2, 2014 in the House of Trade Unions. And even with the MI6 agent Zelensky, there’s no need to say so!

          Also, Odessa has 1 inhabitants. (010)
          Of them only 3914 people voted for the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Greatconstituting the statistical majority of participants in online voting!
          And that's all 3914 / 1010237 = 0,0039 = 0,4% of all residents of Odessa!!!
          Even if we take into account only the adult population of Odessa, who has the right to vote, then this and that will be no more than 0,8%!

          CONCLUSION. "for" by the number voted EXACTLY the so-called. "administrative resource" of the British agent MI6 Zelensky in the city of Odessa.

          1. Myths
            Myths 5 November 2022 19: 46
            0
            Exactly. And it is better to keep the monument, and not just destroy it. Odessa without Catherine is not Odessa.
          2. 4ekist
            4ekist 5 November 2022 19: 54
            +1
            Tatyana
            ...... only 3914 people voted for the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great

            The results of their voting and legitimacy are a big question: Who voted there? - Bandera's shortcomings, fascists, pro-presidential bastards and football ultras. This result was quite predictable. I imagine what would happen to those who would vote against.
        2. jay_tk
          jay_tk 6 November 2022 05: 31
          0
          Yes, bullshit, the question is: if Odessa is cut off by land from Nikolaev to Transnistria, how does this interfere with dry cargo ships? If this prevents Saloreikha from continuing to ship - his problem, we will finally ship our grain from the Sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbAzov
    2. Igool
      Igool 5 November 2022 16: 44
      +1
      Would rather. With a population of 1 people in Odessa, 010 were in favor. This is about 000%. And the mayor of the city seriously considers this the opinion of the inhabitants of Odessa?
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 5 November 2022 23: 04
        +1
        Quote: Igool
        Would rather. With a population of 1 people in Odessa, 010 were in favor. This is about 000%. And the mayor of the city seriously considers this the opinion of the inhabitants of Odessa?

        Most likely, he received information from someone that they would not take Odessa in the near future.
        That's why he flunked.
    3. Anachoret
      Anachoret 5 November 2022 16: 52
      +2
      This is all because on the territory of Ukraine, two of the most ancient professions, politicians and God forgive me, have merged into one - “Ukrainian politician”, changes his shoes in a jump, is ready for any meanness for money)) Odessa has recently been especially rich in such potters and Trukhanovs) )
  2. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 5 November 2022 15: 39
    +3
    You need to start voting on the ROI:
    "You are for the exchange of the monument to Taras Shevchenko (near the Ukraine Hotel in Moscow) for a monument to Catherine in Odessa."

    O. Buzina wrote well about the underpoet T. Shevchenko in a bright pamphlet "Ghoul Taras Shevchenko".
    In short, it says that a Russian officer saved him from military service, for which the Ukrainian "repaid" with fierce hatred and theft, dull drunkenness.
    1. Aleksandral
      Aleksandral 5 November 2022 15: 50
      +4
      Why did Taras Shevchenko not please you? What's wrong?
      1. Igool
        Igool 5 November 2022 16: 48
        0
        Quote: Aleksandral
        Why did Taras Shevchenko not please you? What's wrong?


        Is our Comrade Kim from CIPSO? Will we fight with monuments? Do we have other things to do? Has everything been redone? Have you found an enemy in the face of the deceased poet T. Shevchenko?
        1. solar
          solar 5 November 2022 23: 17
          0
          Monuments to Potemkin, Suvorov, Ushakov, Margelov were removed in Kherson a few days ago. The pedestals alone remained.
          Locals say that the remains of Potemkin have disappeared.
          1. Igool
            Igool 6 November 2022 11: 43
            0
            Quote from solar
            Monuments to Potemkin, Suvorov, Ushakov, Margelov were removed in Kherson a few days ago. The pedestals alone remained.
            Locals say that the remains of Potemkin have disappeared.


            Haven't disappeared. Evacuated because a big problem is brewing and we decided not to risk everything that is dear to us. Because the solution and the consequences of solving the problem are not yet known, but they may surprise everyone unpleasantly.
    2. Luminman
      Luminman 5 November 2022 15: 59
      -4
      for the exchange of the monument to Taras Shevchenko

      No exchange! Just demolish with an excavator!
      There is no need for any monuments to the Selyuks in Russia ...
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 5 November 2022 17: 25
        +2
        Here in Simferopol we have a monument to Shevchenko, to whom and what does he interfere with? During the Crimean spring, one monument was demolished on our peninsula, this is to Hetman Sagaydachny in Sevastopol, and because it was imposed as a response to the monument to Catherine the Great., We have Shevchenko, there is a monument to Lesya Ukrainka in Balaklava, what's the problem?
        And the second question, well, I'm a descendant of the Selyuks, is that bad? A purebred Selyuk, for example, Sidor Kovpak, or Ivan Kozhedub, and with such an attitude you did not go far from Bandera.
        1. Luminman
          Luminman 5 November 2022 17: 30
          +4
          Here in Simferopol we have a monument to Shevchenko, to whom and what does he interfere with?

          I'll give you a hint. What did Shevchenko do for Russia? Shevchenko is a typical product of Soviet propaganda, who was pulled out of oblivion just to show what a bloody tsarist regime was...
          1. Alexander Salenko
            Alexander Salenko 5 November 2022 17: 44
            -2
            And what did Churchill and Roosevelt do for Russia? In honor of the latter, a street in Yalta is named, and both of them, along with Stalin, have a monument by Tsereteli. And we also have monuments to the British who fought against us, the Turks, the French, it would be Italians, but that chapel unmasked a military facility, there is a German memorial - to demolish everything in FIG?
            1. Luminman
              Luminman 5 November 2022 18: 18
              -4
              demolish everything in FIG?

              You don't have to demolish everything. It's better for you to go to Ukraine. There you will be more comfortable...
              1. Alexander Salenko
                Alexander Salenko 5 November 2022 18: 31
                +1
                Go to the peacemaker site and there you will see my last name, sofa military, so it seems to me that it’s better for you to shut up your mouth.
              2. Alexander Salenko
                Alexander Salenko 5 November 2022 18: 32
                0
                Wow, how many Russian Natsiks do we have, they immediately downvoted, yes, the light?
                1. Luminman
                  Luminman 5 November 2022 18: 35
                  +2
                  Wow, how many Russian Natsiks do we have, they immediately downvoted, yes, the light?

                  No, it's just a lot of jumps in VO ...
                  1. Alexander Salenko
                    Alexander Salenko 7 November 2022 07: 19
                    0
                    Once again, how do Russian skakuas differ from Ukrainian ones? The last thing to fight with the monuments
                    1. Luminman
                      Luminman 7 November 2022 07: 39
                      0
                      The last thing to fight with the monuments

                      It's all about the monument...
                      1. Alexander Salenko
                        Alexander Salenko 7 November 2022 07: 44
                        0
                        But you opposed the monument to Shevchenko, is it okay that this is a Russian citizen? And was he able to show his talent precisely thanks to the Russian nobles and as an artist, by the way, very intelligent?
                        In Crimea, only 3 monuments have been demolished for all the time, the already mentioned Sagaidachny, on the eve of joining Russia, a monument to Lenin was broken in Simeiz, it has already been restored, or it also did not need to be restored and the monument to Mokrousov and the Red Landing Forces in the village of Morskoye was blown up 20 years ago by the Tatars. Mokrousov advocated their deportation. Should this be taken down?
                        And then people like you are surprised, why are the Siberian Tatars against the name of the airport after Yermak, and where does separatism come from in Tatarstan, where do full-time supporters of independent Ingria come from, and so on.
                      2. Luminman
                        Luminman 7 November 2022 07: 49
                        0
                        But you opposed the monument to Shevchenko, is it okay that this is a Russian citizen?

                        He was an unreliable subject. If he lived at the present time, he would ride on the Maidan. And what talent is he? Selyuk, who was elevated by the Bolsheviks. Something like the Kazakh Dzhambul ...

                        where does separatism come from in Tatarstan

                        Nationalism and separatism following it are inevitable for any state...
                      3. Alexander Salenko
                        Alexander Salenko 7 November 2022 07: 56
                        0
                        Not everyone has such a developed culture, Shevchenko is just a genius against the background of the Crimean Tatar rhyming, and if you don’t like what the Bolsheviks did in terms of culture, then be consistent, throw the stories of Shostakovich, Sholokhov, Green, Drunin, Dunayevsky into the dustbin. It was from the Selyuks, only Russians, that many compositions were born in the 30s, which are known even now, such as evenings near Moscow, or fragrant clusters of white acacia.
                        Nationalism and separatism following it are inevitable for any state...

                        The Bolsheviks, for the most part, managed to solve such a problem, as the tsars, by the way, solved this problem before capitalism.
                      4. Luminman
                        Luminman 7 November 2022 08: 00
                        0
                        throw the stories of Shostakovich, Sholokhov, Grin, Drunin, Dunayevsky into the dustbin. It is from the villagers

                        These Selyuks, unlike Shevchenko, made a great contribution to culture and worked for the good of the state. Unlike the same Shevchenko ...
                      5. Alexander Salenko
                        Alexander Salenko 7 November 2022 08: 03
                        0
                        Well, tell me the Russian Selyuks who contributed to Russian culture from the serfs, can you manage 10 people?
                        And I don’t understand what is anti-Russian in Shevchenko’s work, have you read it? Or how about Pasternak: I didn’t read it, but I condemn it?
                        I read that it was mandatory in the school curriculum, and Kobzar Shevchenko, this is a solid tome.
                      6. Luminman
                        Luminman 7 November 2022 08: 12
                        0
                        By "selyuk" I mean the intellectual abilities of a person, and not his rural arial ...
                      7. Alexander Salenko
                        Alexander Salenko 7 November 2022 08: 41
                        0
                        No, this is urban arrogance, what does potential mean? Well, you create an analogue of the Kobzar in Russian, paint pictures and compare your potential and Shevchenko. If you look at his work, then anger, when it is present, is directed against serfdom, as I understand it, are you for it?
                      8. Luminman
                        Luminman 7 November 2022 08: 57
                        0
                        Yes, he did not speak out against serfdom, but against mockalis! Classic narrow-minded selyuk...
                      9. Alexander Salenko
                        Alexander Salenko 7 November 2022 09: 21
                        0
                        Where? Muscovites in his time were soldiers, and they were treated very badly everywhere in the peasant environment. And the fairy tale "Porridge from an ax" is not at all funny.
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 5 November 2022 23: 08
        +1
        Quote: Luminman
        No exchange! Just demolish with an excavator!
        There is no need for any monuments to the Selyuks in Russia ...

        Jump, excuse me, have not tried it yet?
        Well, or burn tires?
  3. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 5 November 2022 15: 40
    +5
    Most of the citizens of Odessa who voted supported the idea of ​​dismantling the monument from Ekaterininskaya Square...

    Personally, I will vote for the dismantling of the monument and its transfer to the park of the imperial and Soviet past, the idea of ​​​​creating which I spoke about a few months ago.
    - Trukhanov outlined his position.


    It turns out that there are no Russians left there, according to a Nazi with a Russian surname and their Telegram channel.
    If this is true, then it's worse for them.
    1. ZIF122
      ZIF122 5 November 2022 15: 50
      +2
      Yes, the people there are mostly intimidated, especially after the burning of several dozen people in the house of trade unions in 2014! They are simply afraid!
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 5 November 2022 17: 27
        +2
        Don't tell me, there is enough pro-Ukrainian contingent as in Kharkov, especially among the intelligentsia. Before the House of Trade Unions, where were all these Odessans? Looks like the best of them died then.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 5 November 2022 16: 06
      -11
      Quote: tihonmarine
      It turns out that there are no Russians left,

      You might think that Catherine II (Sophia Augusta Frederick of Anhalt-Zerbst, who ascended the Russian throne as a result of a palace coup) was Russian.
      1. Vladimir Sedov
        Vladimir Sedov 5 November 2022 16: 23
        +11
        Not Russian Catherine, did a hundred times more for Russia than any other Russian.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 5 November 2022 16: 36
          -2
          Quote: Vladimir Sedov
          Not Russian Catherine, did a hundred times more for Russia than any other Russian.

          She introduced Russia to Western culture (for which the West sings her praises), and generally advertised herself well. She tried to please the Western "thinkers" of that time, favored Western artists (including to the detriment of Russians), populated the country with foreigners.

          As for what she did specifically for the Russians ... it was not without reason that the Pugachev uprising took place precisely under her.
          1. Alexander Salenko
            Alexander Salenko 5 November 2022 17: 29
            +2
            And again, make nonsense, we have temples of the 13th century built by Italians, and the most famous Italian fortress, if anything, is called the Kremlin in a short word. Nothing bothers you, does it?
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 5 November 2022 16: 24
        +5
        Quote: Reptilian
        You might think that Catherine II (Sophia Augusta Frederick of Anhalt-Zerbst, who ascended the Russian throne as a result of a palace coup) was Russian.

        This non-Russian queen did more for Russia than many other Russian leaders like Nicholas II, Yeltsin and Gorbachev
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 5 November 2022 17: 01
        +6
        Quote: Reptilian
        You might think that Catherine II (Sophia Augusta Frederick of Anhalt-Zerbst, who ascended the Russian throne as a result of a palace coup) was Russian.

        Stalin was also not Russian, but he and Catherine did more for Russia than anyone else.
        Or do you think Mazepa, Bandera and Shukhevych did something good for Ukraine, something good???
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 5 November 2022 17: 09
          -4
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Stalin was also not Russian, but he and Catherine did more for Russia than anyone else.

          Tell us, please, at least one competent state administrator, whom Stalin left behind.

          The degradation of the state administration of the USSR (up to the subsequent collapse) after the death of Stalin is for the most part the "merit" of Stalin himself.
          1. Chief Officer Lom
            Chief Officer Lom 5 November 2022 17: 21
            +1
            Quote: Reptilian
            Tell us, please, at least one competent state administrator, whom Stalin left behind.

            L.P. Beria for example. True, he was just a state administrator, but he was not a politician. And others too. For which they paid, losing the antigeny of state administration, but to the experienced politician Khrushchev.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 5 November 2022 18: 18
            +3
            Quote: Reptilian
            Tell us, please, at least one competent state administrator, whom Stalin left behind.

            And what did your Mazepa, Bandera and Shukhevych leave besides a pile of corpses and burned villages and cities, or maybe such Nazi managers as Turchinov, Poroshenko and Zelensky.
      4. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 5 November 2022 17: 27
        0
        Maybe this is a Russian empress of German origin, what's the problem?
  4. VORON538
    VORON538 5 November 2022 15: 41
    +7
    Mdyaya ... What did this (censorship) monument to Catherine 2 do? hi
    1. your1970
      your1970 5 November 2022 16: 19
      +4
      Quote: VORON538
      Mdyaya ... What did this (censorship) monument to Catherine 2 do? hi

      So de-Sovietization has been announced with them - and Catherine was the largest figure in the Soviet government ...lol
  5. Alexga
    Alexga 5 November 2022 15: 42
    +11
    Four thousand people on the Internet have voted for something and this determines the opinion of a millionth city. Right, this is all funny.
    1. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 5 November 2022 15: 56
      +1
      You are right, only 4 thousand of the most stubborn ones, who took part in the voting for a whole million-plus city, the rest having a different opinion were simply afraid to express it. Not all is lost in the glorious Hero City of Odessa. Now the main thing is that there should be no "gestures of good will" on our part.
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 5 November 2022 16: 16
        0
        I present a picture-grandmother 80 years of commercials sits on the Internet and votes.
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 5 November 2022 16: 26
          +2
          Quote: Alexander 3
          I present a picture-grandmother 80 years of commercials sits on the Internet and votes.

          What's funny here ? Yes, he is on the internet. in Russia, many grandmothers rummage on the Internet, from seventy-five and more ..
          1. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 5 November 2022 23: 31
            0
            Quote: 30 vis
            What's funny here ? Yes, he is on the internet. in Russia, many grandmothers rummage on the Internet, from seventy-five and more ..

            Yes perishing juvenile something any more in the internet sits.
            And not only in Ukraine, but also in Canadian Banderastan.
            The fact that 3914 "Odessites" are from Odessa does not follow from anywhere. hi
    2. isv000
      isv000 5 November 2022 15: 58
      +4
      Quote: AlexGa
      Four thousand people on the Internet have voted for something and this determines the opinion of a millionth city. Right, this is all funny.

      It is, of course, understandable, the occupation, but - under the Fritz, the inhabitants of Odessa spoiled their blood, during the revolution the criminal world adequately parried blows from the authorities of all stripes. Odessans, wow! Isn't it time to help the Red Army?! Or a Russian come, bring a surprise...?
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 5 November 2022 16: 32
        -1
        Well, not all. Even young, relatively young, do not rummage there. I mean, don't rely on the internet alone.
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 5 November 2022 21: 11
          0
          Quote: Alexander 3
          Well, not all. Even young, relatively young, do not rummage there.

          Of course not all. Both young and old. Rummaging those who need it, interesting, useful ... informative. Those who need to communicate with loved ones through video, and other applications. ..
      2. PC
        PC 5 November 2022 17: 28
        -1
        Odessans have forgotten their heroes. Soon they will think of renaming Yasha Gordienko Street.
        Ah, Odessa, Odessa! Glorious Russian city!
        1. isv000
          isv000 5 November 2022 19: 41
          0
          Quote: p-k
          Odessans have forgotten their heroes. Soon they will think of renaming Yasha Gordienko Street.
          Ah, Odessa, Odessa! Glorious Russian city!

          Former future Russian city! But then it would be necessary to clean it thoroughly, otherwise the "Guss" and "Surzhiks" will run in, T-shirts will be torn for Mother Rus' ...
  6. faiver
    faiver 5 November 2022 15: 45
    +2
    condoms, what else to say? but you can’t expect anything else from them, it’s a pity that our command blew the chance to take Odessa at the very beginning ....
    1. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 5 November 2022 15: 58
      +1
      Here it must be said that for the entire millionth Odessa, there were only 4 thousand stoned. What is not very bad.
  7. ZIF122
    ZIF122 5 November 2022 15: 45
    +2
    The head of the city, Trukhanov, simply went crazy to defend his position and quickly changed his shoes! Otherwise, they will be accused of being pro-Russian and taken to the SBU!
  8. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 5 November 2022 15: 47
    +2
    These polls are worthless on a market day.
    And tovariSCHa of course "politely" corrected the higher authorities.
    But he is clearly insuring himself, in which case he can say, they say that everyone was for the demolition, but I saved it so that I could return it.
  9. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 5 November 2022 15: 48
    +5
    Lord, what have they done to the people!
    What kind of degradation do people have?!
    Of course, demolish the monument to Great Catherine and put on a pedestal a sculpture of some nonentity, because among the new Ukrainian heroes there are a great many of them: Mosep, Bandera, maybe one of the fresh Parash or even Zelensky ...
    Sala Ukro-ine!
    fool negative
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 5 November 2022 15: 56
      +4
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      Of course, demolish the monument to Great Catherine

      By demolishing the monument to Catherine, Ukraine recognizes that Odessa is not a Ukrainian city, but a Russian one.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 5 November 2022 23: 38
      +1
      Quote: Retvizan 8
      maybe one of the fresh Parash or even Zelensky ...

      A monument to Zelensky with a piano would look original. good
    3. Mitia68
      Mitia68 6 November 2022 14: 03
      0
      Of course, demolish the monument to Great Catherine and put on a pedestal a sculpture of some nonentity


      So in 1920, the communists demolished this monument. And now on the square there is not the original monument, but a remake of 2007.
  10. isv000
    isv000 5 November 2022 15: 49
    0
    The devil was in trouble, apparently he realized that the mayorship in the new administration of the liberated Odessa did not shine for him. He will try, of course, to declare that he heroically tried to save the monument by cunning, transferring it to the "park", but ... simpletons are all in the mirror!
  11. Luminman
    Luminman 5 November 2022 15: 56
    +2
    Of course, this is unpleasant for me, but let them take it down.
    Let them forget their history and turn into pig feces...
  12. Fizik13
    Fizik13 5 November 2022 15: 59
    +1
    Opposing the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great, the mayor of Odessa changed his position

    After the Faberge eggs are pressed in the dungeons of the Ukrainian Gestapo, you will change not only the position, but also the orientation.
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 5 November 2022 16: 01
    0
    And then, I want to live. And then this banderva will stop at nothing and will bang the family itself.
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 5 November 2022 16: 02
    0
    Opposing the demolition of the monument to Catherine the Great, the mayor of Odessa changed his position
    . What happens to those who demolish monuments, distort the history of their people, their land???
  15. Mimohod
    Mimohod 5 November 2022 16: 07
    +1
    It’s easier for them to lick the ass of the Yankees and put them in Odessa, Lincoln or Washington, or both in a row laughingWhat will Duke say???
    1. Alexander Salenko
      Alexander Salenko 5 November 2022 17: 32
      0
      If Duke were alive, his hair would stand up.
  16. Alexander Rasmukhambetov
    Alexander Rasmukhambetov 5 November 2022 16: 28
    +1
    Look at the world at these narrow-minded people, to put it mildly, and their mother probably didn’t drop them in childhood, but beat her blunt head against the wall.
  17. opposite28
    opposite28 5 November 2022 16: 31
    +2
    The majority of Odessans who voted supported the idea of ​​dismantling the monument from Ekaterininskaya Square
    Personally, I will vote for the dismantling of the monument and its transfer to the park of the imperial and Soviet past, the idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbcreating which I spoke about a few months ago
    And what if the monument to Catherine ll is demolished in the park of culture or dismantled with destruction, then light will appear in Ukrainian Odessa?! Or will Deribasovskaya street become more even?! Then the monument to Duke Rechelier will also be demolished in the park of culture, so that Catherine ll would not be bored, they will warm each other on the coming cold Ukrainian nights. feel bully laughing
    1. PC
      PC 5 November 2022 17: 23
      +1
      Wait, and they will get to the duke. Will be next after Catherine.
  18. iouris
    iouris 5 November 2022 16: 33
    0
    He changed his position! My!! Ahahahahaha...
  19. FoBoss_VM
    FoBoss_VM 5 November 2022 16: 34
    -1
    The mayor is as much of a slut as Kim is. Nothing, the time will come and they will ask him
  20. iz odessy
    iz odessy 5 November 2022 16: 47
    0
    Trukhanov is a budget thief. Of the ordinary members of the organized criminal group of the 90s, the position is a fighter, today a millionaire and not a hryvnia, two criminal cases, one without options. There was such a plant of the "January Uprising", when it built good cranes in the USSR. The Khokhlomangers successfully cut it and then sold it for a penny, then at the "genes", not at the very, of course, but at the suggestion of "assistants" like Vugelman-Abramovich, a "revelation" happened - in the building of the plant management, near the cemetery, to make a "European city hall". The city bought this building for huge money, from its own people. Modestly, approximately 5-7 million dollars were overpaid and divided. He was "saved" by the Odessa court and a hook in the balls from the authorities in Kyiv. There is no politics in this bald head, from the word "absolutely." After the VVP said "for Odessa" and the monument, everything went at an accelerated pace, drooling fly for kilometers. Pictured an internet survey. In a million city, "adesyti" voted for demolition by 3000+ votes. Banderyo is a bad version of the Bolsheviks. Those have already been demolished and renamed, and where are they now?
    1. PC
      PC 5 November 2022 17: 20
      -1
      How well laid out! Indeed, "adesyti".))
  21. PVV66
    PVV66 5 November 2022 16: 49
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    Then the unreasonable inhabitants of Odessa will carry him in his arms to put him in his place, to the anthem of Russia.
    1. PC
      PC 5 November 2022 17: 21
      -1
      And they will loudly, tearing the vests on their chests, swear their love for Russia and Mother Empress!
  22. Vladimir80
    Vladimir80 5 November 2022 17: 05
    +2
    It seems to me that this news should finally bury the illusions about "one people", "common history", "they are waiting for us there." The inhabitants of the outskirts have destroyed everything connected with Russia and are ready to continue inventing their own history, language, goals. "The people deserve their rulers."
    1. Chronos
      Chronos 5 November 2022 17: 15
      0
      Quote: Vladimir80
      It seems to me that this news should finally bury the illusions about "one people", "common history", "they are waiting for us there." The inhabitants of the outskirts have destroyed everything connected with Russia and are ready to continue inventing their own history, language, goals. "The people deserve their rulers."

      Exactly. Demolition of the monument to Catherine - Rubicon. This is not a statue of Lenin in the village of Rasteryaevka. And I understand everything, but UNESCO will remain silent?
      And so it turns on the tongue that Odessa should then become de-Russified. That is, the same as it was before Catherine. Does everyone understand what I mean?
    2. iz odessy
      iz odessy 5 November 2022 18: 09
      -1
      you think this is an important addition from you
  23. Serega1
    Serega1 5 November 2022 17: 07
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    After the demolition of the monument to Catherine, it is necessary in response to demolish all the monuments to the Heavenly Hundred, Bandera and other homosexuals with Geranium-2.
  24. iouris
    iouris 5 November 2022 17: 09
    +2
    Nothing of value will remain in Odessa without this monument.
    "A pub has opened on Deribasovskaya.."
    1. Mitia68
      Mitia68 6 November 2022 14: 00
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      Yes?!
      Curiously, how did Odessa live before its installation in 2007?

      After all, the Bolsheviks demolished this monument to the devil's grandmother in 1920, and then the entire Soviet government did not have it. And in 1965, the so-called "Monument to the Potemkinites" was erected on this site. And only in 2007, instead of Potemkintsev, this remake was installed.
  25. Igor Korbut
    Igor Korbut 5 November 2022 17: 14
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    The people who betrayed their kind, I’m sure, like Western propaganda, there were no votes, they put pressure on the mayor seriously
  26. PC
    PC 5 November 2022 17: 17
    0
    Do they listen to 4000 thousand people in Odessa with a population of one million? Complete. idiocy.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 5 November 2022 23: 53
      +1
      Quote: p-k
      Do they listen to 4000 thousand people in Odessa with a population of one million? Complete. idiocy.

      If 3914 is the majority, then less than 8000 participated in total, the rest became "drummed" or pissed.
  27. Dartanian
    Dartanian 5 November 2022 17: 19
    -3
    woe to the vanquished, we reap the fruits of the hands of effective managers. Unfortunately, we have a lot to drink....
  28. rotfuks
    rotfuks 5 November 2022 17: 51
    +1
    Odessans are generally flexible people and will adapt to any government. In the Second World War in Odessa, there was no ghetto, no executions and repressions, and no red underground. But shops, casinos and brothels for the occupiers were working properly. But when, after the war, Marshal Zhukov undertook to purge this swamp, the whole of Odessa reared up. And when there was a famous burning of people in the House of Trade Unions, then Odessans poured gasoline into bottles for the Ukronazis. And if in six months the Russian Army comes to Odessa, then all Odessans will provide evidence that they were in the armed underground against the Ukronazis.
    1. Reindeer
      Reindeer 5 November 2022 19: 11
      +1
      Finally, the hostages taken from the Jews were hanged by the occupying authorities after the explosion of the headquarters on Marazlievskaya ... So you don’t know anything at that time and for that city, so keep quiet in a rag; if you want to talk about the high, then try to explain why the Jewish cemetery was plowed up under the Soviet regime (and they made a park there, yes).
      1. rotfuks
        rotfuks 5 November 2022 20: 08
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        I generally in my post did not touch the Jewish ethnic group. But if you are talking about it. Without diving deep into history, just watch the famous film "Liquidation". Practically show the post-war period in Odessa. More prisoners of war walk the streets. But all the Jews are there. They live for many years in their apartments. They are also on the criminal wanted list. They are looting military warehouses. They are building socialism. As if the war and the Holocaust had not touched them.
        1. Reindeer
          Reindeer 5 November 2022 23: 42
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          I don’t care what is shown in the film - my family lived in Odessa then, during the occupation, so I know everything from the very first hand.
  29. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 5 November 2022 19: 12
    0
    Trukhanov is a well-known political prostitute.
    By the way, do they have one military outfit for two with Zelensky?
  30. VBH
    VBH 5 November 2022 19: 13
    +3
    Was in Moscow the other day, met women from Odessa in a hotel. They say: "We would have left for Europe, but we are close to retirement age, what to do there. And here at least the Russian language is more or less clear." Perhaps only I am so lucky, but for some reason I notice that many (to put it mildly) of the migrants go to Russia, not because Russia is close to them, but ONLY because nothing shines for them in Europe. That is why dissatisfaction is regularly expressed here. And we keep dreaming about how they are waiting for us "there" with flowers.
  31. RoTTor
    RoTTor 5 November 2022 21: 32
    +1
    That one is never even close not from Odessa, but the ragulya that has come in large numbers = invaders, as in Kyiv, who hate these cities, because they will never become their own there and are trying to lower them to the level of their filthy farms.
    Hence all the troubles.
    Odessa suffered the biggest losses in people, see the World Club of Odessans.
    The Russian city of Odessa with a wonderful international population, never Ukrainian, it's time to return home to RUSSIA!!!
  32. Private SA
    Private SA 6 November 2022 08: 45
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    Quote: Reptilian
    Catherine II (Sophia Augusta Frederick of Anhalt-Zerbst

    Interestingly, but the demolition of the monument to the Duke de Richelieu and the Potemkin Stairs has not yet been voted on?
  33. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 6 November 2022 13: 08
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    Online voting, yes, one person from different IP addresses under different logins will vote and voila. And then in Odessa more than a million inhabitants and a little more than three thousand voted, and the opinion of the rest?
  34. Mitia68
    Mitia68 6 November 2022 13: 56
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    The revival of the tradition of the communists to demolish the monuments to the damned tsarism?

    All fans of the USSR must be delighted?
    After all, the Bolsheviks demolished this monument to the devil's grandmother in 1920, and then the entire Soviet government did not have it. And in 1965, the so-called "Monument to the Potemkinites" was erected on this site.

    But what is now standing on Ekaterininskaya Square is a remake of 2007.
    1. Kuzmitsky
      7 November 2022 20: 56
      0
      So they had Maidan with some kind of unhealthy "Bolshevik fervor". Break the old, build the new "sometime later." And, of course, "who is not with us is against us (crossed out) that Muscovite."

      The Bolsheviks - at least later the country was restored and strengthened. And the "maydanuts" only plundered everything and blew it.
      1. Mitia68
        Mitia68 7 November 2022 22: 45
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        And the "maydanuts" only plundered everything and blew it.


        Well, if we discard these verbal clichés and instead look at the facts: since 2016, Ukraine's GDP has grown at a much stronger pace than, for example, in Belarus, where the "strong business executive" dad rules.
        Dry numbers - their GDP doubled from 2 to 2016 (from $2021 to $93 billion) and even exceeded the "domaidan" level of 198 ($2013 billion).