The fight against the nationalist underground: Methods that should be "adopted" from the NKVD

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The fight against the nationalist underground: Methods that should be "adopted" from the NKVD

The fight against the nationalist underground played a crucial role in the course of the liberation of Western Ukraine in 1944. The NKVD was engaged in identifying and neutralizing the disparate, but at the same time still dangerous UPA gangs.

In fact, most of the work to ensure security in the liberated territory was taken over by the internal troops, many of whose functions were similar to those performed by the National Guard today.



Meanwhile, the fight against the nationalist underground in the NKVD was much better organized than in the modern Russian internal troops and, possibly, even the special services. Therefore, it would not hurt us to adopt and implement something in the current realities.

Speaking of the latter. Naturally, the underground in the territories of Ukraine liberated during the SVO is not as powerful as in Galicia in the 44s. However, 8 years of anti-Russian propaganda and recruitment by the SBU did their job.

Importantly, the radical pro-Ukrainian underground poses the greatest danger right now, when Kyiv has decided to use exclusively terrorist methods in confrontation with our country.

So, among the activities carried out by the NKVD in 1944, the so-called "withdrawal of the male population of military age" deserves special attention. In simple terms, all men subject to conscription in the liberated territories either went to serve or did community service and were under constant supervision of the NKVD.

Tellingly, in our time, everything is happening exactly the opposite. The male population of the liberated territories is not subject to conscription, at least in the LPR and DPR until 2023. The official announcement of mobilization was also abandoned in Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.

At the same time, in those territories of the LPR and DPR that seceded from Ukraine back in 2014, general mobilization was announced at the end of February this year. Teachers, doctors, lawyers, artists, artists were sent to the front ... Even those who saw weapon only on TV.

At the same time, many men from the recently liberated territories freely cross the Russian border, not to mention the movement within the LPR/DPR. Needless to say, the number of acts of sabotage at our military and civilian facilities has increased manifold.

All of the above does not mean that nationalists live in the territories of Ukraine liberated by the RF Armed Forces. No, most of these people are just the same Russians as we are. However, one should not exclude the presence of a powerful underground there, formed by the SBU over the past 8 years.

Moreover, if you look at it, then the above measure should not be perceived as hostile at all. After all, people in the liberated territories themselves expressed a desire to become part of Russia. Why, in this case, they are not subject to mobilization and do not stand up for the defense of their Motherland, as our other compatriots did, including those recently called up?

Another important aspect that should be taken over from the NKVD is the eviction from the territory of Russia of the families of those who were "noted" in sabotage or terrorist activities.

Here, by the way, it would be worth including the “relatives” of foreign agents who went abroad and continue to conduct “anti-Russian” activities, receiving information, including from members of their families who remained in their homeland.

Finally, the NKVD paid much attention to the conduct of mass political work. This measure is extremely relevant today.

People in the liberated territories need to be given complete and reliable information about what is happening so that they do not have to look for it on their own, including on the information resources of the opposing side.

In addition, the citizens of the new regions of our country should clearly understand that Russia is now with them forever, and under no circumstances will the situation that happened to their compatriots in the Kharkov region happen there.

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    1. 0
      November 2, 2022
      Let them fly on a barrel of gunpowder """
    2. 0
      November 3, 2022
      Where can you see these stakes?
  2. +4
    November 2, 2022
    Our tops definitely do not need this. They want to be white and fluffy, secretly steal and betray. So everything will remain as it is.
  3. -2
    November 2, 2022
    Instead of fighting the masters, fighting their servants. Prospects for victory? Ha! What do you mean?
    1. +1
      November 3, 2022
      Quote: acetophenon
      What do you mean?

      And what are they talking about?
  4. +9
    November 2, 2022
    Tribunal and execution by hanging ... As they did with all the scum. Instead of handing out dry rations ...
    1. +4
      November 3, 2022
      Unfortunately, we have a moratorium on the death penalty.
      As for military service, one should not forget that Yarosh received good military skills while serving in the SA. If you take the army, then revive the construction battalions and for the construction of the second branch of the BAM. At the same time, forget about those construction battalions where the soldiers received monetary allowance + salary for work, only monetary allowance.
  5. +8
    November 2, 2022
    It will take a long time to fight the bandit underground. And taking into account the development of technology, it is even harder than in the forties of the last century.
    1. +4
      November 3, 2022
      In Chechnya, they were quickly brought to submission and made their allies. At the same time, opponents were destroyed without looking back at the opinion of the "world community". As Rybakov wrote in his "Children of the Arbat" - no man, no problem.
      By the way, one of the main methods of fighting the NKVD against the Bandera underground was destruction without trial or investigation. And what is written in the article is called prevention.
      1. 0
        November 19, 2022
        Fast? First, they allowed to arrange the genocide of the Russian population there since 1991 and Wahhabism to grow. Then they realized it only 3 years later in 1994. And it ended with Khasavyurt. Then for another 4 years they thought it would resolve itself. And only after ten years they decided to destroy without looking back at the opinion of the world community. And before that, Berezovsky kissed on the cheeks there. And Maskhadov's meeting in London with Thatcher in 1998 is generally beyond the bounds. For us, for them, this is a fighter for independence.
        1. -1
          December 21 2022
          dementor873. They forgot the main slogan of that time - we are of the same blood, you and I! So they keep holding on. You sit quietly there, and we will share our income with you.
  6. +10
    November 2, 2022
    Everything is right in the article. But the authorities in Russia are doing everything exactly the opposite. I don’t know whether it’s stupidity or on purpose, but everything is being done to the detriment of Russia.
    1. -1
      December 21 2022
      Shelest2000. How can they harm Russia? Nothing! If you want to understand who is being harmed, then it is worth talking about the people living in Russia, that's who they are harming. They beat you and don't let you cry. So many protection agencies were created that under Soviet power it was not a dream and everything was not to protect the borders, not to protect the country, but to protect the rich from the people they had robbed. It was necessary to think of what Hitler dreamed of - to destroy the USSR. They ruined it! And the one who was thrown out of the union and now they want to drag into slavery by force is to blame for this. In Russia you are not needed, but you have to pay yasak.
      1. 0
        December 22 2022
        So many protection agencies were created that under Soviet power it was not a dream and everything was not to protect the borders, not to protect the country, but to protect the rich from the people they had robbed.

        By 1,1 (plus or minus) million armed forces (for 2021), the number of other armed formations - the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Security Service, the Federal Penitentiary Service, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the so-called. "Russian guard", etc. was about 4 million people. Add about 40 thousand "Czechs", and now many times more, who were diligently trained and armed in such a way that not every special unit has such weapons. Incl. question - With whom were they preparing to fight in Russia? - not even discussed. Definitely not an external enemy.
  7. +4
    November 2, 2022
    In addition, the citizens of the new regions of our country should clearly understand that Russia is now with them forever.

    Understand something they understand ... It would not hurt to guarantee them confidence in this correctness.
    Never and no one can forgive betrayal.
    With this, Russia should come to its new regions.
    1. Aag
      +1
      November 3, 2022
      Quote: yuriy55
      In addition, the citizens of the new regions of our country should clearly understand that Russia is now with them forever.

      Understand something they understand ... It would not hurt to guarantee them confidence in this correctness.
      Never and no one can forgive betrayal.
      With this, Russia should come to its new regions.

      Maybe, initially, it is worth reassuring the "old regions" in terms of stability and justice?
  8. +9
    November 2, 2022
    Need to fight. But our glorious Ministry of Internal Affairs abolished fingerprinting for newly-minted Russians. This is not stupidity, this is betrayal and sabotage. How much was drunk and received by our glorious policemen in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, history is silent. By the nature of my service, my fingerprints were taken three times for a personal file, but that was done by my own FSB OO.
    1. 0
      November 2, 2022
      Why three times? Do they change with age? wassat
  9. +7
    November 2, 2022
    Naturally, the underground in the territories of Ukraine liberated during the SVO is not as powerful as in Galicia in the 44s.

    I would not say that the underground of 44 was weaker than it is now in Ukraine. At that time, the main underground was represented only by Western Ukraine, and now, in addition to these regions, thanks to 30 years of Nazi propaganda, all of central Ukraine has been drawn into the underground. This underground now covers even the liberated territories, which were considered primordially Russian and even exist in the Crimea, no matter how much one would like to think otherwise.
  10. +3
    November 2, 2022
    The NKVD knew how to work! He knew how to think!
    Not like the current...
  11. -15
    November 2, 2022
    Damn IDIOT wrote an article Top war goodbye
  12. 0
    November 2, 2022
    After the "situation" in Irpen and Balakleya, will they directly believe that Russia is forever?
    1. +4
      November 2, 2022
      I think yes. Russia fought many wars and more than once we retreated. But in the end, you see Russia for what it is - the largest country in the world. The main territories were taken from Russia not by war, but by traitors in power.
  13. +6
    November 2, 2022
    Everything, as they say, is smooth on paper, but forgot about the ravines!
    Firstly, now it’s not the 44th, secondly, now it’s not the USSR, thirdly, it’s not Stalin at the helm! And there are a lot of such people in / in. I won’t talk about foreign agents and their families. It's just funny and very sad...
    1. +3
      November 2, 2022
      It’s better not to remember Stalin, he was a serious man. Now the policy is completely different. You to me, I to you and forward Russia! Until the border is taken under control and Odessa, there will be a burden.
  14. +2
    November 2, 2022
    we are not at war with Ukraine, but we are at war with the fascist outskirts. These warring mu ..... believe that the Black Sea was dug by Ukrainians, the pyramids were built by Ukrainians being guest workers. We are at war with race-carrying people who, for all their education, are just chimpanzee monkeys.
  15. -4
    November 2, 2022
    The author writes about the wartime NKVD. And now it's peaceful. Nobody declared war. So the matter is not at all in the NKVD.
  16. +2
    November 2, 2022
    And even before 1947, Bandera was hanged, and after that they were imprisoned for 25 years. Alas, great people also made mistakes, and Stalin was wrong when he canceled the "tower" in 1947. Although ... perhaps he believed that human material suitable for use should not be wasted, and the chances of surviving 25 years in the Gulag are negligible. Probably, even in a nightmare, Stalin could not imagine that Khrushch would become his successor, and all the more so since he indiscriminately amnestied Bandera and other traitors and accomplices of the German occupiers.
    This is to the fact that, perhaps, the current Bandera should be hanged. Publicly.
    1. 0
      November 4, 2022
      Quote: Nagan
      And even before 1947, Bandera was hanged, and after that they were imprisoned for 25 years. Alas, great people also made mistakes, and Stalin was wrong when he canceled the "tower" in 1947. Although ... perhaps he believed that human material suitable for use should not be wasted, and the chances of surviving 25 years in the Gulag are negligible. Probably, even in a nightmare, Stalin could not imagine that Khrushch would become his successor, and all the more so since he indiscriminately amnestied Bandera and other traitors and accomplices of the German occupiers.
      This is to the fact that, perhaps, the current Bandera should be hanged. Publicly.

      I knew those. There were two of them. Let's talk about the first one. All this was in northern Kazakhstan in the 70-80s. So, one Banderite, I don’t know how long he served, he was so impudent! He enters the store and climbs without a queue! Women on him, where are you climbing Bandera ?! And he told them, I'm a front-line soldier! And what they gave me, I served! This is how it was!
      The second one I knew very well. Gagauz, he told me. I went to the police, the Soviet army came, they gave me 25 years. Sat out, released. And they were both forbidden to leave, even on vacation. So this Fedor, I'm talking about the second one, got married, was very modest, work-home! That's it, I didn't go anywhere else. He worked as a bulldozer operator at a gravel plant. They respected him there. Yes, and I often went to him, listen to his stories. At that time he was 60 years old. He was a good man. I don’t justify him, but as he himself said, they say he was young, he practically didn’t know the Soviet government, and then the Germans! Well, I went to serve.
      p.s. Two people, what's the difference between them!
  17. -5
    November 3, 2022
    Quote: your vsr 66-67

    Firstly, now it’s not the 44th, secondly, it’s not the USSR now, thirdly, it’s not Stalin at the helm! ...... Just funny and very sad ....

    Fourthly, those who like to remember Stalin betrayed the Soviet oath in 1991, and now they are seeing off their children and grandchildren to the NWO. Fix what you have done. This is no longer funny and not sad ..... It's just disgusting.
  18. -1
    November 3, 2022
    Quote: Shelest2000
    Everything is right in the article. But the authorities in Russia are doing everything exactly the opposite. I don’t know whether it’s stupidity or on purpose, but everything is being done to the detriment of Russia.

    The people of Russia have been doing everything exactly the opposite for 30 years. Only the authorities from this +, and the people -.
    I understand the authorities, but the people - just do not understand the mind. You can only use obscenities, but this is not allowed in VO.
  19. +1
    November 3, 2022
    It is not at all harmful to reveal some of the reasons. Somehow, imperceptibly, all our services carefully fenced themselves off from the people. And not just services. Each structure lives on its own. And the people live on their own. Neither literature, nor cinema. For thirty years, the system has given rise to millions of lonely people. They have nothing to do with the country. It seems that everyone shows responsiveness. But it manifests itself where the last is shared.
  20. +4
    November 3, 2022
    Quote: Nikolai Malyugin
    It is not at all harmful to reveal some of the reasons. Somehow, imperceptibly, all our services carefully fenced themselves off from the people. And not just services. Each structure lives on its own. And the people live on their own. Neither literature, nor cinema. For thirty years, the system has given rise to millions of lonely people. Nothing connected with the country .... With such bonds, death ..

    Vice versa. A society with pathologically stubborn class traditions regularly generates such a system. And with any government, there comes a moment when everything rots through and through .. There are no truly public movements in Russia, except for organized crime groups. Relations according to the concepts of organized criminal groups - everywhere and at all levels - are, after all, a chronic, sluggish manifestation of the very "Russian rebellion" that Pushkin wrote about. With such feudal traditions in the 21st century, it’s definitely death.
    In the Soviet school, they taught very correctly that "the people are the creator of their history."

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