Migrants are required to learn Russian

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Migrants are required to learn RussianThe State Duma approved a bill that obliges those who wish to receive permission not to work for foreigners without fail to pass an examination in the Russian language. The amendments do not apply to highly qualified specialists - only to future employees in the housing and utilities sector, trade and consumer services.

The document is to enter into force on December 1 2012. From now on, a person wishing to work, for example a janitor, a native migrant from Central Asia will need to provide a certificate of state testing in the Russian language, issued in a specialized center. In addition, to obtain a work permit will not work without a state document on education (not lower than the average) with its notarized translation into Russian.

Testing migrants for knowledge of the Russian language is authorized at 160 educational institutions. For the ability to express in Russian visitors will have to pay. According to FMS estimates, the exam will cost about 6 thousand rubles, the Russian language courses themselves can be free.

At the beginning of this year, Vladimir Putin suggested that guest workers be obliged to study Russian in compulsion. The concept of migration policy before 2025, encouraged by Dmitry Medvedev at the end of April, provided for this provision.

The Ministry of Education and Science believes that it is easiest to teach migrants the Russian language using classical poetry. According to Izvestia, the ministry plans to create three electronic poetry collections containing, in sum, 180 works of more than 20 poets. Some poems will be accompanied by a video series. In 2012, the list of references should end, and the first collection will be presented for some reason only in 2014.

At the same time, a number of experts believe that forcing migrants to learn Russian is not only a difficult task, but also ineffective. Pessimists are inclined to believe that this idea will affect not so much the assimilation of migrants, but rather the expansion of the corruption market.
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  1. Septugian
    +9
    27 October 2012 11: 57
    Let everyone go home, and not see the language you see!
    1. Trofimov174
      +7
      27 October 2012 12: 18
      Who then will finish the Sochi Olympics? )))
      1. YARY
        +15
        27 October 2012 13: 27
        ANY MASTERBAYTER-BLOW ON OUR FUTURE! ON OUR CHILDREN AND HANDS!

        Py Sy
        read- "Islamism strides across Europe"
        1. +1
          27 October 2012 17: 45
          Quote: Ardent
          ANY MASTERBAYTER-BLOW ON OUR FUTURE! ON OUR CHILDREN AND HANDS!

          Py Sy
          read- "Islamism strides across Europe"


          Absolutely not. Those who go to work for us are peaceful people, these are OUR people from the USSR. And they are not Islamists.

          And "Islamism is marching across Europe" - these are completely different people, from completely different countries. For clarity, compare:

          This is ours:


          And this is theirs:
          1. +15
            27 October 2012 23: 35
            These "our people", having felt like the "titular nation" with an extra dose of marijuana, drove Russians out of their Bantustans with cries of joy in the early 90s! Slogans like: "Suitcase, train station, Russia!" are written right there. And then the "titular" suddenly realized that they can't do anything without Russians. So they crawled to Russia. And since over 20 years of "titularity" they have already managed to become completely wild, now they are only enough for sweeping the streets and making defective buildings. The question is: why the hell do we need them??? Somehow I don't see doctors, agronomists, and other necessary specialists coming from Asian Bantustans to Russia... About whom Putin spoke the other day. But semi-literate savages are flocking. Again flocking to Moscow, St. Petersburg and other cities. If their labor is needed - let them develop Siberia! BAM needs to be restored - that's where they belong! There's no point in hanging around in the capitals!
            1. Brother Sarych
              -4
              28 October 2012 11: 37
              And who is it for you? Poles or what?
              It is we, the Turkestans, here we can be in a complaint, and not you, who were not born in Central Asia ...
            2. 0
              28 October 2012 18: 46
              Quote: nnz226
              they are now enough only for sweeping the streets and manufacturing defective buildings.
              . And who designs these buildings? Who skips these projects? Well, as for the development of BAM, I completely agree
          2. +3
            28 October 2012 00: 04
            And how will we distinguish? According to your photos or the results of the action, but rather after the action (when they will fuck your daughter, if you have one)
        2. mox
          mox
          +1
          27 October 2012 20: 16
          In Europe?
          http://nnm.ru/blogs/NoNaMe-Y/moskvabad/#cut
      2. Septugian
        +1
        27 October 2012 16: 25
        But is it needed, by and large? I think we already have a lot of room for investing! Although this can’t be changed!
    2. Jeka
      +8
      27 October 2012 12: 22
      I agree with you, but the state is more likely to suffocate than drive them out of the country, not only can they now have money for exams, it’s easier to pay a penny to emigrants, instead of paying the Russians worthily.
      1. +9
        27 October 2012 13: 32
        Quote: wih

        I agree with you, but the state is more likely to suffocate than drive them out of the country, not only can they now have money for exams, it’s easier to pay a penny to emigrants, instead of paying the Russians worthily.

        And then we all wonder why it is difficult for our youth to find a job by profession! And because businessmen do not want to pay a decent salary! There is no and no justice in our country. Greed, irresponsibility, a sense of eternal freebie has become an integral part of officials and traders! How I want to return to the USSR!
        1. Kaa
          +4
          27 October 2012 14: 17
          Quote: tronin.maxim
          And then we all wonder why it is difficult for our youth to find a job by profession!

          And how in the late 80s everyone was outraged by the "registration institute", "limit". But these were the foundations of the state migration policy! And now we are indignant. There is still no escape from the problem of migrants, but knowledge of the language, history and cultural customs for newcomers is the norm in any country in the world, remember the notorious TOEFL and its analogues in Canada, Germany, France ...
        2. +1
          27 October 2012 17: 54
          Quote: tronin.maxim
          And then we all wonder why it is difficult for our youth to find a job by profession!

          Well, Maxim, well indeed! In WHICH profession is it difficult for us to find a job? Mason? Cement mixer Our youth will not work for such a thing, give them managers. And the fact that it is difficult to find a job is not true. We have the lowest unemployment rate almost in history, 5.4%. I explain: below 5% it’s almost impossible, these 5% are those who don’t want to work, they are inadequate people who are stupid and want a big salary, those who are now changing jobs. When unemployment drops to 5% there is a strong shortage of workers. If you expel Tajiks from the Country, it will rise, there will simply be nobody to work.

          No need to roll a barrel on them, they obviously take only those places that are low-paid and ours do not want. And it’s good if the Russian wants to work on a construction site and everything is busy there, he will learn more and go on a more reasonable way.
          1. staser
            +7
            28 October 2012 02: 07
            Recently graduated from the university. Of the 15 graduates, only 5 actually went to work by profession, and then those who studied, and the rest stupidly "went with the flow." The remaining people are not just not professionals, they are people who are incapable of learning, who do not want to do anything. What can we say here that the teacher's question "How many bits are in a byte" is a student who is a student of 3 !!! course, specialty software engineer !!! stands at the blackboard and looks at the ceiling!
            I would not take such a "specialist" not only for a programmer, and not just for a PC operator, I would not take him into the wipers, because even in the latter case, WORK is necessary!
            1. +2
              28 October 2012 19: 04
              These are precisely the ones that make up the majority of the remaining 5% of the unemployed.
            2. thatupac
              -2
              29 October 2012 08: 26
              Moreover, such "specialists" study for free on a budget for free. It's high time to cancel free education, so as not to pay here such ...
          2. +2
            28 October 2012 23: 07
            Quote: crazyrom
            Well, Maxim, well indeed! In WHICH profession is it difficult for us to find a job? Mason? Cement mixer Our youth will not work for this, give them managers

            You are wrong, dear. If our construction worker pays a normal salary, then there will be many people who want to work among the Russians.
            In the USA, for example, the average salary of a construction worker over 6500 $ is approximately 200000 rubles per month. Well, you pay a Russian stone maker for a month of work 40 -50 thousand rubles, although b, in the province people will definitely go to work for that kind of money. And guest workers will be unnecessary.
            1. Olaf555
              +2
              29 October 2012 03: 53
              I absolutely agree! Himself lived in Central Asia for almost 30 years (since 5 years) I know these "comrades" not by hearsay.
          3. +1
            29 October 2012 12: 08
            Quote: crazyrom
            In WHICH profession is it difficult for us to find a job? Mason? Cement mixer Our youth will not work for such a thing, give them managers.


            Not true. Personally, I know people who want to work as masons, tilers, etc., and not sales consultants. They don’t go because they pay a penny, although the work is more complicated than a sales consultant. And pay a penny you guess why?
      2. Septugian
        +8
        27 October 2012 13: 45
        Migrants will soon strangle this state, today the clip saw Bayram break through the cordon, a never-ending stream, they need to be kicked out now, in a couple of years, easily some kind of Osama Kozlam, a bearded Islamist, can be re-elected suddenly, so I think you’ll understand what this will lead to, and will lead to a very bloody and brutal massacre throughout Russia, people are already running out of patience, skirmishes are becoming more frequent, finally people are no longer afraid of them, and they understand that they need to unite, and even extinguish them with villages, villages and cities!
        1. Slayer
          +4
          27 October 2012 20: 21
          Quote: Septugian
          So if it goes on like this, I think you understand what it will lead to, but it will lead to a very bloody and brutal massacre throughout Russia, people are already running out of patience, skirmishes are becoming more common, finally people stop being afraid of them, and understand that they need to unite, and extinguish them with villages, villages and cities even!

          Honestly, I've never met a Tajik beating anyone in my entire life, but almost every day there are punks beating up someone in the yard. I don't defend anyone, I honestly don't give a damn about them, they clean my entrance, sweep my yard, and by the way, they sweep better than the bums and alcoholics who are also applying for this job))) I remember one incident struck me 2 years ago, I was walking home, and a 17-year-old boy runs after 3 punks and cries "give me back my phone"), they laugh at him, sometimes turn around and kick him in the chest. And a Chinese guy comes to meet them, and knocks out these 3 punks in the best traditions of Jackie Chan and gives the phone to the boy)))
          1. NICK
            0
            29 October 2012 12: 28
            Quote: Slayer
            I was struck 2 years ago by one incident, I was going home, and a puss of 17 years was running after 3 gopniks and crying "give the phone back) they laugh at him, sometimes turn around and kick in the chest. And a Chinese goes to meet them, and put these 3 gopniks down in the best traditions of Jackie Chan and gave the phone to the boy

            It was weak to intervene, bench press bench? Or do not care?
          2. +1
            29 October 2012 18: 35
            Quote: Slayer
            I'm going home, and a pokemon about 17 years old runs after 3 gopniks and cries "give the phone back) they laugh at him, sometimes turn around and kick in the chest. And the Chinese goes to meet them, and put these 3 gopniks in the best traditions of Jackie Chan and gave the phone boy)))

            You give an example of an exception to the rule, so comparing is incorrect. Yes, there are noble people in every nation and there is a rag, I think that most of those present on the site will not mind if all visitors are like the Chinese described by you, but most newcomers behave in Russia, unfortunately, in a completely different way .. .
      3. dimanf
        +1
        27 October 2012 14: 42
        and no policemen disperse unauthorized rallies in Moscow!
        Or the law doesn’t apply?
    3. Slayer
      +2
      27 October 2012 18: 46
      Quote: Septugian

      Let everyone go home, and not see the language you see!

      It should be happy that we can go to our place, so we still have a good life, when immigrants leave, then it’s worth thinking. It’s like in a South Park, when the Mexicans began to leave home, and then they were forcibly left in the United States)) I’ll say I don’t sign up the yards to sweep, if you want in front with a shovel, move the guest workers))
    4. +4
      27 October 2012 22: 55
      They are already all over Russia and are becoming impudent every year. In 1993 I had to leave from Central Asia. Now they are rod to Russia. Where is the government looking? It can be seen that the French experiment with Arab migration does not teach anything.
      1. staser
        +3
        28 October 2012 02: 11
        Where is the government looking?

        And where do the citizens who prescribe them in their homes look? Themselves too little, but to blame.
  2. zz2003_1974
    +6
    27 October 2012 11: 59
    Coordinate this situation does not fix, you need at least a simplified visa regime !!! Screening !!! Although at the current level of corruption, all actions are like a dead poultice !!!!
    1. Septugian
      0
      27 October 2012 13: 46
      Need a shooting license, and that’s it!
  3. 0
    27 October 2012 12: 00
    Quote: Septugian

    Let everyone go home, and not see the language you see!

    Will you sweep the streets?
    the right law since they come let them learn Russian, otherwise it’s impossible to talk with many people
    1. Septugian
      +1
      27 October 2012 13: 47
      Yes, sweeping at the time with a year, did not die!
  4. georg737577
    -2
    27 October 2012 12: 01
    Cut off their tongue at the entrance ... Less will be ...
    1. Brother Sarych
      -6
      27 October 2012 12: 06
      The root of the very eggs like you, must be cut off so that idiots do not breed ...
      1. Brother Sarych
        +1
        27 October 2012 13: 36
        The post on which I wrote mine has been deleted a long time ago, but are the minuses still streaming? It was necessary to look at WHAT specifically I wrote ...
  5. Brother Sarych
    +1
    27 October 2012 12: 05
    He also cuts down the dough - the only goal of this innovation ...
    Also, additional bribery will flourish ...
  6. WW3
    WW3
    +6
    27 October 2012 12: 06
    A person who does not know the Russian language creates some problems for the population of Russia (unless of course he is limited in his team of migrants) therefore, of course, the correct solution ....
    Stop turning Russia into "our rush"!
  7. +12
    27 October 2012 12: 11
    WE HAVE A RUSSIAN BABA TAKES AWAY FROM US, AND GOOD TAKES AWAY TO CONSCIENCE. AND THESE PAY THE BUTTERS WILL RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE
  8. +6
    27 October 2012 12: 25
    passing the exam will cost about 6 thousand rubles
    For which they teach everywhere for a fee, and do not take exams. (Except for the traffic police of course.)
    I think guests from Central Asia will pay uncles from the training center 10000-15000, receive a certificate. And further silently revenge of the street (not so much they want to communicate, outside their community) inspired by the classics of Russian literature.
  9. I-16M
    +12
    27 October 2012 12: 25
    Any migrant, no matter where he is from, no matter whether he knows Russian or not, takes away work from our people. And in addition, reduces the size of wages in the field where he works. Which cretin was the first to say that our own do not want to work? They do not want to pay. And migrant workers are paid pennies, by our standards, (by theirs - very decently). They are taught Russian.... Millions of people are essentially unemployed, and these are pulled up by the ears to the level of citizens.
    1. staser
      +3
      28 October 2012 02: 32
      Any migrant, it doesn’t matter where he is from, it doesn’t matter whether he knows Russian or not, takes away our person’s work

      Although I am not an immigrant, I am not Russian. In principle, my ancestors can also be called immigrants. And I am very offended by such words.... Yes.... I went to university, dreamed of becoming a programmer, at the end of my third year I got a job at a research institute, got a red diploma =) So what? You see, I am taking the place that should have been taken by one of those Russian graduates who went to university stupidly for the crust, who bought a diploma thesis and who cannot write the simplest program (laugh or not, but it is true!!! - half of those who graduated from university with me cannot write a simple program).
      Well, one thing remains - to learn English, to finish graduate school and onward from Russia ... but it’s a pity, although I was born in Russia, but you see, I am disturbing you all here.
      1. I-16M
        +1
        28 October 2012 04: 59
        You mix the general with the private. This is not right, in any barrel of honey, there is a fly in the ointment and vice versa, but the spoon does not change the overall picture wink
        Quote: staser
        Although I am not an immigrant, I am not Russian. In principle, my ancestors can also be called immigrants.
        In vain you have touched the ancestors, we are talking about today.
        Quote: staser
        I take a place that was supposed to be taken by one of those Russian graduates who went to the university stupidly with a crust, who bought a thesis and who could not write the simplest program
        Agree, with this, in our country, anyone can face and the problem here is not at all national.
        1. staser
          0
          28 October 2012 12: 00
          Well, actually, they poked me more than once to leave me away from Russia.
  10. +6
    27 October 2012 12: 41
    I don't see the logic... at first, in a fit of national self-awareness, they slaughtered all the Russians... now they've shown up... they've shown up in Russia, which they hate... they're doing the same here... in Krasnoyarsk, they've published the safest areas of the city... and they're exactly where there's the least amount of migrants and gastroenters. We're already supporting them... we're investing billions in their republics... like pouring water into sand... now we're going to teach them???? They wanted independence, but they'll get it... in their own homeland. CLOSE THE BORDERS!!! We all see what tolerance has led to in Europe, they have become hostages in their own countries. All the gastronomic workers and migrants work only in the first generation... and then only dependents... who only demand and demand. They bring nothing but degradation. They will not come to production, to science, will not become doctors and teachers... they will destroy the last foundations of the development of civilization... look at what is in the West... and the threat is real. Now they are offered... very little time and they will start demanding. Our government has played too much... migrants will not restore the statehood of Russia and will not increase it... they are occupiers... temporary workers... to grab money and it does not matter how stupid Russians and to their homeland... to be bayai.
    1. I-16M
      +4
      27 October 2012 12: 53
      + Even if we take only the economic component, labor migration in Russia is nonsense. They send all the money to their families in other countries. A huge outflow of capital! The state will save a penny, but lose a ruble.
      1. Brother Sarych
        0
        27 October 2012 13: 15
        This is not about the state at all - specific people have specific money, and they are not going to lose it ...
        Migrants send EARNED money, and the lion's share remains with those who brought them ...
        Not fighting those ...
        1. I-16M
          0
          27 October 2012 13: 49
          I am not fighting with anyone... You are right, the root cause is "specific people" for whom money has no smell. And at the heart of this "process" is still the state. Only the state can allow or prohibit. Allows...
      2. +1
        27 October 2012 13: 25
        and representatives of this state will raise their money at the expense of migrants and for the interests of the state itself they are deeply worse. therefore, the really best solution is a hard screening of those who want to find a job in Russia as well as employers who want to hire foreigners. if violations occur - punish
        1. I-16M
          0
          27 October 2012 13: 53
          Illegals are easy to fight. Brutal fines and criminal liability for such (powerless, by the way) workers. It would be someone to fight, and not to take bribes.
    2. orfo
      +8
      27 October 2012 12: 56
      considering that most of them are more likely Muslims, then there is nothing to be surprised if we have a new radical cell of bearded people whom Russia hates. Of course, it is necessary to accept labor migrants, but not all of them qualified and by invitation only.
  11. in reserve
    +1
    27 October 2012 12: 58
    The Ministry of Education and Science believes that it is easiest to teach migrants the Russian language with the help of classical poetry.

    Now all Gaster will respond in verse when asked. laughing

    A little off topic but look and listen to the cries in the crowd.

    On Sunday evening, near the entrance to Saratov's pretrial detention center No. 1, a crowd of Caucasians attempted to forcibly seize a paddy wagon in which three young men aged 25–26 were being transported. They were accused of committing a number of thefts as part of an organized crime group from stores in Saratov and Engels and were placed in pretrial detention,
    1. Brother Sarych
      -2
      27 October 2012 13: 17
      The North Caucasus is the territory of RUSSIA, the inhabitants of the North Caucasus are citizens of RUSSIA, what do migrants have to do with it?
      1. +1
        27 October 2012 13: 29
        the note says - "Caucasians", what have our Ossetians, Dagi and Chechens to do with it. there are enough others - not citizens of Russia
        1. Brother Sarych
          -1
          27 October 2012 13: 38
          The police were instructed not to touch their "own" Caucasians, and it makes no sense for strangers to cheat, you can get burned, but if you have a Russian passport, then it's another matter ...
          By the way, who are the strangers? Are Georgians practically nonexistent, Armenians too, Azerbaijanis? With their passports there are not very many of them who need (both Georgians and Armenians) citizens of Russia for a long time ...
          Migrants don’t usually behave like that ...
      2. in reserve
        +2
        27 October 2012 13: 49
        Brother Sarych
        The gang is all Armenians. I talked about attitude, listen to the cries from the crowd.
        1. Brother Sarych
          +1
          27 October 2012 15: 39
          Do you think they have Armenian passports? I'm sure not!
    2. +2
      27 October 2012 19: 38
      I looked and realized that we have the most humane power structures in the world. In democratic Germany, or in liberal America itself, all this surrounding trash was already kissing, if only we would walk on the road.
  12. Stressor
    +2
    27 October 2012 13: 57
    While the current government is increasingly showing "different fingers" and does not provide an honest set of 146% in the elections, which has finally degraded into a tsar-dictator, with their sycophants, they are increasingly thinking about importing a more obedient electorate. So what? To teach them Russian, then to simplify the issuance of citizenship, which, in principle, can be obtained anyway at the central stations of the Moscow metro, and that's all. And the Russians, from other CIS republics, let them beat the doorsteps of bureaucrats for years, trying to obtain citizenship. And then they are too smart. And you know, dear pro-Putin commentators, in the future, somewhere by the next elections, most of Russia will face the fate of Moscow, like yesterday's Churban-Ram holiday

    And you will still sing the praises of power, rejoicing at the next salvation of the Siberian Cranes or finding the pre-set amphora, sun-like, and sun-faced, in turn, with its henchmen, will fly on a helicopter, contemptuously looking at all this dirt from above. We surrendered Moscow, the next in turn is all of Russia.
    1. +3
      27 October 2012 19: 48
      Three RPKs, three RPGs, a platoon of machine gunners and a funeral comrade. And it would be all calm. That's right ... like in a cemetery of uninvited foreigners.
    2. -3
      27 October 2012 21: 10
      Quote: Stressor
      like yesterday’s holiday Churban-ram

      for starters: you’re a blockhead.
      in Moscow, there are 2 mosques for 4 million Muslims, but this situation cannot be called a mockery.
      1. The cat
        -1
        28 October 2012 00: 26
        Well done! Thinly kindle. Plus. good
      2. Atlon
        +1
        28 October 2012 11: 29
        Quote: bairat
        To begin with: you’re a blockhead. In Moscow, there are 2 mosques for 4 million Muslims, except this situation cannot be called a mockery.

        Tricky question:
        How many mosques were in pre-revolutionary Moscow?
        Question number two:
        And why, sir, are there 2 million of you in Moscow? Go home, or somewhere far away, where there are more mosques... What have you come here for?
        1. Brother Sarych
          +1
          28 October 2012 11: 35
          Personally, I don’t really need Orthodox churches, neither Catholic, nor mosques, nor synagogues, and datsans and prayer houses of all sectarians to one place, but ...
          Well, how many mosques were in pre-revolutionary Moscow and how many were the whole people? And where do the same Tatars of Moscow go, if suddenly a case leads to a mosque to go in joy or in sorrow? Suppose someone dies - and what to do? Do not bury according to custom?
          So be careful with who and where you got into trouble ...
        2. -2
          28 October 2012 15: 54
          Before the revolution, there were a lot of things that were hard to imagine today; are you going to be equal in everything at that time?
          Solve the issue of illegal migrants in isolation from religion; they foolishly hope that if they don’t get access to the mosque, they will voluntarily leave. Putin goes on Wed distributes quotas to migrants, weakly make a claim to him? Moscow is the capital of the Russian Federation, all citizens of the federation have the right to live where they want. If you disagree with this, then try to rewrite the constitution, maybe it will work out for you, then you will tell someone where to go. In the meantime, hold your Wishlist.
          1. thatupac
            +1
            29 October 2012 01: 57
            First, earn money so that you can buy housing for living where you want, and then come where you want. And so there are enough homeless people in the country, but here another one lights up ...
        3. thatupac
          0
          29 October 2012 01: 56
          They pinned down in the same way that at one time the provincial limit came to work in Moscow, annoying the native Muscovites with this fact. Just right now, not a limit, but guest workers.
      3. Stressor
        0
        28 October 2012 11: 35
        If you check the registration, residence permit, work permit, etc. of these two million, then God willing, a tenth of these two million will remain. They are not needed here and they are not welcome here. The rally against the construction of a mosque in Mitino with the subsequent cancellation, and the recent burning of cars with log-numbers and endless fights, like the one at the Evropeisky shopping center, clearly proved this. What they wanted, that's what they got.
    3. -4
      28 October 2012 12: 29
      One small question: who told you that with a different government it will be better and these Mamelukes will no longer be? Personally, I, and many, to varying degrees, communicate with whom, a change of power is not needed! And secondly, all problems can be solved even under the current government (God grant her prosperity), only it takes time. Glory to Putin!
      1. Stressor
        +1
        28 October 2012 13: 05
        Dmitry Anatolyevich, log in.
    4. thatupac
      -1
      29 October 2012 02: 05
      If on May 6 there were no riot police on Bolotnaya at the same iron barriers that are shown here, or there was no cordon, then the Russians then also ran like cockroaches in the kitchen at night. Here there is no dense line of cops and riot police, right? That is precisely why, on May 7, so that the Udaltsovsky o5 cattle didn’t get the black thread with their dogs, they enclosed a part of Moscow where the president’s motorcade drove to the inauguration. So that the picture is not spoiled. After all, they showed it to the whole world. And Moscow was turned into Maskvabad by ordinary Russian residents of Maskvabad themselves, who are several times more non-Russians in the city by percentage. Weakies ...
  13. mongol-79
    +2
    27 October 2012 14: 45
    Another fraud of our leaders on money laundering.
  14. +2
    27 October 2012 16: 34
    This law creates only the appearance of a fight against illegal migration, increases the possibility of corruption and the level of embitterment of legally and honestly working foreigners.
    We need a law that tightens the liability of illegal immigrants, including criminal law, which prescribes the payment of deportation at the expense of illegal immigrants and their states.
    I think there will not be a law really useful for the country. This is painfully unprofitable. for many in power.
  15. +8
    27 October 2012 17: 42
    The law is a dummy, an imitation of a solution to the migration problem. Putin's policy on migration issues is anti-Russian and anti-state.
  16. Kochetkov.serzh
    +1
    27 October 2012 18: 07
    It’s not possible to close the entire entry into the string, and since it’s not possible, by the way for what reasons we also know, then at least limit their number and duration of stay.
    1. Stressor
      +1
      27 October 2012 18: 22
      Yes, yes, of course.

      During a meeting in Dushanbe on Friday, Vladimir Putin and Emomali Rahmon signed several more agreements. So, the countries agreed to increase the terms of registration and validity of work permits for labor migrants. “We plan to increase the registration time to 15 days, and issue a work permit for a period of up to three years,” Vladimir Putin said.

      The RF Ministry of Health and Social Development has increased quotas for attracting foreign workers to Russia. The corresponding order is posted on the agency's website; it entered into force after being published in Rossiyskaya Gazeta on April 11.
      According to the document, the quota for attracting migrants in 2012 in the Central Federal District will increase from 424,8 to 444,7 thousand people. The limit for the Southern Federal District will be 121,6 against 96,7 thousand, for the Volga - 135,4 against 133,1 thousand, for the Ural - 145,6 thousand (will not change), for the Siberian - 109,6 against 109 thousand, for the Far East - 111,6 against 109,8 thousand people.

      Thus, in 2012, almost 150 people will be attracted to six of the seven federal districts more than previously planned. The quota for attracting foreigners to Moscow will increase from 136 to 150 thousand. The reserve for the entry of workers from abroad as a whole in Russia will amount to 428 thousand against 477,8.

      According to RIA Novosti, the quota for attracting foreign labor in 2012 in the whole country amounted to 1,746 million people, which is eight thousand less than in 2011 - 1,754 million.

      According to the Federal Migration Service, more than nine million foreign workers are currently working in Russia. At the beginning of last year, the head of the Federal Migration Service of Russia Konstantin Romodanovsky proposed abolishing quotas for attracting foreign labor.

      He noted that instead of a quota system, experts propose to introduce "differentiated mechanisms" - to organize the recruitment of foreign workers in the countries from which they come, to attract seasonal workers and prepare programs for foreign students.

      Many politicians, public figures and FMS officials noted that the number of labor migrants from the CIS countries entering Russia is several times higher than the established quotas. The system of restrictions implies that the regions send applications to the Ministry of Health and Social Development for a certain number of work permits for foreigners, focusing on the needs of local businesses. The Ministry approves applications for quotas. The FMS, in turn, does not issue work permits in excess of quotas. But many migrants neglect the need to obtain these permits.
  17. +4
    27 October 2012 18: 56
    OUR people from the USSR.


    They ceased to be OUR when they took sovereignty as much as they wanted. I do not understand these tricks of Putin with them.
    Drive everyone out of the country and lock the border. Let the "titular" ones with "millennial traditions" sit at home.

    They don’t want to work about it: let our snickering goons pay cleaners not 5-7tr, but 20, and then they will go to construction sites and everywhere.

    The Russians, unlike them, do not sleep in cellars of 10-20 people, and want to eat something better than doshiraks, they need to pay rent, loans so that the children live and develop with dignity, so they don’t want and DO NOT work for a spear. So do not blame here on Russian !!!!
    1. Stressor
      +1
      27 October 2012 19: 11
      Because Putin in a helicopter will contemptuously spit on all this swarming electorate.

      During a meeting in Dushanbe on Friday, Vladimir Putin and Emomali Rahmon signed several more agreements. So, the countries agreed to increase the terms of registration and validity of work permits for labor migrants. “We plan to increase the registration time to 15 days, and issue a work permit for a period of up to three years,” Vladimir Putin said.
      1. +6
        27 October 2012 19: 54
        I, a citizen of Russia, an officer, when changing my place of residence for 2 months, stood in line to just submit documents for registration and then waited a week for a stamp in my passport. Are they 15 days old? And who should I love and respect after that?
        1. AntiSocial
          +3
          28 October 2012 11: 31
          probably your officials, or according to the logic of local slow-thinking people, migrants are to blame for the fact that you cannot defend your rights, why not just start demanding from your deputies to fulfill your duties if you are not satisfied with the migration policy, then you must probably force the authority chosen by YOU and not by migrants situation, although it’s easier on the forums to blame and insult migrants
          1. Pablo
            +2
            29 October 2012 00: 12
            HOW MANY RUSSIANS ARE LEFT IN THESE COUNTRIES AFTER THE NINETIES, IN PERCENTAGE AND LET CENTRAL ASIANS INTO RUSSIA. UKRAINIANS, BELARUSIANS DO NOT CONCERN
        2. thatupac
          0
          29 October 2012 01: 48
          That's exactly what stood, and did not punch. So it would not have stood for 2 months. The bureaucracy there should have been faster. And then he sat down, you know, on a tree stump, having handed over the documents in anticipation, and now he is crying here with "righteous" tears. They are 15 days old, because their president gave us to re-sign the agreement on the military base, to strengthen economic contacts and to write contracts, and because you, your family and people like you, do not want to get a job cleaning up after themselves in their own city. But someone needs to do this. Sit on the stove ...
      2. Pablo
        -1
        29 October 2012 00: 06
        Why are you picking on Putin because he put pressure on you faggots?
        1. Stressor
          0
          29 October 2012 01: 34
          Peskov, are you? Do not hysteria and learn the Russian language, a patriot of leaven
  18. petro
    -4
    27 October 2012 20: 17
    It’s an interesting thing, to work in Russia, to learn Russian, but how to live in Ukraine, then you don’t need Ukrainian. And someone else is accused of nationalism.
    1. sapulid
      +2
      27 October 2012 21: 27
      You know, but in the same States, the southern ones have an OFFICIAL LANGUAGE - SPANISH. Do you know why? MOST POPULATION speaks Spanish. What about the population of eastern Ukraine?
      We must respect the majority, you are our "westerner".
      1. 0
        27 October 2012 21: 35
        And in the Russian Federation, is this possible, so that the non-Russian language is official on the ground?
      2. petro
        -1
        27 October 2012 21: 57
        Why do people mislead - the USA, Canada, Switzerland do not have national languages ​​- American, Canadian, Swiss. And at the expense of "Western", then you and your like all those who are for the interests of Ukraine. From here - "Western" is nothing more than a patriot of his country. So it is necessary to divide the population of Ukraine - the patriots and the "fifth column". The latter are quietly dying out, well, they go there.
        1. Pablo
          +1
          29 October 2012 00: 21
          BENDERRASTA WILL FIND, THE UNITED OPPOSITION IS GETTING 20%, AND BENDERIVES OF 5-VOICE GALITSAEV (MISSIBLE) WHICH STALINS WRITTEN ILLEGALLY WITHDRAWAL FROM POLAND AND BECAME ANY ERROR.
      3. petro
        0
        28 October 2012 12: 47
        "We need to respect the majority" --- so in fact they respect. The majority of the population of Ukraine is against the second state. "Dear" you are ours.
        1. Pablo
          +2
          29 October 2012 00: 25
          AMERICAN AND ENGLISHES SURVEYED MORE THAN 60 PER CENT, FOR WHY UKRAINIAN AUTHORITIES AND BENDERRAS AGAINST THE REFERENDUM ON THE SECOND STATE LANGUAGE.
    2. Pablo
      +1
      29 October 2012 00: 15
      EXCEPT FOR THE BENDERASTS, ALL OF UKRAINE AND NOVOROSSIYA CONSIDERS RUSSIAN AS THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGE
    3. 0
      29 October 2012 10: 24
      petro October 27, 2012
      An interesting thing to work in Russia is to teach Russian, and how to live in Ukraine, the Ukrainian is not needed. And someone else is accused of nationalism
      -------------------------------------------------- -----
      Get it, Petro, but you're wrong.
      This is a completely different topic of discussion.
      But the Ukrainian people and language are a centuries-old artificial Western project to fragment the Russian people with the aim of weakening them and then destroying them piecemeal. Including that part of them that is now called Ukrainian.
      The Ukrainian language, by the way, has not yet been invented definitively, but is in the formative stage on the basis of the Little Russian dialect, which the people call Surzhik. You should know this better than me.
      And changing the natural to the artificial — as life has repeatedly shown — is unwise.
  19. +1
    27 October 2012 21: 13
    Late to drink Borjomi. About 15 years ago, I witnessed a situation where an Uzbek recidivist for a bribe received citizenship on the move, and for years Russians rummaged through offices trying to get a coveted passport.
    1. staser
      +3
      28 October 2012 03: 01
      I will add. I saw on the news how a large family of Russian citizens was driven out of the apartment, while my father tried to evict Tajik citizens from a state farm house, which they illegally settled and which did not have documents providing them with the right to live in Russia. I tried for about a year until I decided to call the regional center (attempts through the local police and contacting the administration (which incidentally settled them) were unsuccessful).
  20. sapulid
    +3
    27 October 2012 21: 36
    Damn, there are legends about corruption in Russia here in Ireland. By talking to locals, even in Africa there is no such lawlessness. Every bureaucrat wants to have his share in the business. They give, but they put the costs on us. Otherwise, how can you explain that FRESH meat and milk in Ireland is twice as cheap as in Russia, and the "self-made woman" buys hotels in Dublin? Somehow, her business in Russia is not visible after the kick to her husband ..
  21. +3
    28 October 2012 09: 27
    As I already wrote, but removed - Absurd Russia is a country that, with the help of power, surrenders or betrays its territory to visitors without the consent of the people
  22. Atlon
    +2
    28 October 2012 11: 20
    Quote: staser
    Well, one thing remains - to learn English, to finish graduate school and onward from Russia ... but it’s a pity, although I was born in Russia, but you see, I interfere

    Well, what is it about? About how Russia accepts, teaches, puts on its feet, and then you over the hill? Good position ... Russian occupiers, these are not American democrats ... They broke into villages and auls and left cities behind them. And those to whom you were planning to go, quite the contrary, are hammering the cities into the Stone Age ... Well, then, to each his own. I managed to break out of the janitorial class, and you can spit on the country that sheltered you. Now to bow to the general democrats, for the loot ... It's disgusting.
    1. Stressor
      0
      28 October 2012 11: 40
      Teaches? He puts on his feet ?? Is it with the rest of the education, cheap scholarships, thieves in the budget places, bombed by dorms and a reduction in budget places ?? And you don’t want to lay out a hundred thousand rubles for a year of study, mm? So take it on the mountain and lay it out? And then get a diploma, which, in fact, except as a proof of graduation, no one needs? You are as much left of real life as you are worthless. You think that in Russia everywhere everything is the same high-quality education as in the USA or Europe (that’s probably why the bureaucrats’ children study without a trace over the hill), and Putin thinks that a clown room with Siberian Cranes at the head will help to immediately establish life in the country and increase rating. Circus!
  23. 0
    28 October 2012 12: 20
    Finally, at least something! And then these already filled everything, a couple of years ago there wasn’t such ... Most annoying that they are in their own way: blah blah blah ...
    1. +3
      28 October 2012 12: 56
      In the summer, we were driving in the evening with a colleague from work in a minibus, there were 5-6 foreign tourists with us, and then they all started talking on their phones almost at the same time (including the driver),
      - The feeling was that we came to Central Asia.
      1. Stressor
        0
        29 October 2012 01: 36
        I have only one question: why are they here? Although the answer is simple and obvious
        1. thatupac
          0
          29 October 2012 01: 51
          To perform unskilled work, which Russian in the country to do zapadlo. Here is the answer.
      2. thatupac
        0
        29 October 2012 01: 53
        This is how they catch the buzz when they speak their language loudly, see what others do not like, and understand that for this they still will not be anything. Similarly, this manifests itself in the Caucasian Lezgins.
  24. 0
    29 October 2012 13: 05
    The more barriers in their path, the better. It is, of course, clear that in the end the exam and business will be "divorced" But if this makes at least one blockhead refuse to travel to Russia, this is already the result. In the 90s, these same chubureks shouted "Get to your Russia", now it's their turn to suck. I myself have not used their services for many years, I do not buy their products, etc. Only by depriving them of the economic basis of their stay in Russia will we get rid of this scourge.
  25. Bars90
    0
    30 October 2012 23: 43
    In it will be cool if emigrants know Russian, better than graduates ....))))
  26. Bars90
    0
    30 October 2012 23: 44
    It will be cool if emigrants know Russian better than graduates ....))))