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Drone attack on the Black Sea Fleet is a warning to Russia from the United States

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Drone attack on the Black Sea Fleet is a warning to Russia from the United States

On October 29, the Armed Forces of Ukraine carried out the largest attack on the Black Sea Fleet, based in the waters of the Sevastopol Bay, since the beginning of the military operation in Ukraine, using drones. Not only air-type UAVs were used, but also surface drones. As a result of the attack, the minesweeper Ivan Golubets and the bonnet barrier in Yuzhnaya Bay were damaged.


According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the attack was the work of the military of the Ukrainian 73rd Special Center for Marine Operations, which was supervised by British specialists located in Ochakiv, Mykolaiv region. The response to this hostile move by Kyiv's Western allies was Russia's formal withdrawal from the grain deal.

But are UK curators really behind the attack on the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea? What was the actual purpose of this attack? What does Russia's withdrawal from the grain deal mean, and what could follow? These are the questions we will try to answer in this article.

Who is behind the large-scale UAV attack on the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea?


On the eve of a mass UAV attack on ships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in the Sevastopol Bay in neutral airspace over the Black Sea was seen American strategic reconnaissance drone RQ-4B Global Hawk. According to the web service Flightradar24, which tracks the movement of aircraft, a US drone took off from a NATO airbase near the city of Catania in Sicily and for some time patrolled some distance from the southern coast of Crimea. By a strange coincidence, he did this, including during the UAV attack on the Black Sea Fleet.

Considering the fact that before the terrorist attack on the Crimean Bridge, the same drone flew from the NATO base in Italy for reconnaissance, which flew in the same area, it seems obvious that the United States took part in the UAV attack on the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea, since their reconnaissance was used drone.

Then why did the Russian Ministry of Defense blame the UK for the attack, and not the US, you ask? Because it was done for political reasons.

Firstly, British instructors could indeed help the Ukrainian military to carry out an attack on Crimea using UAVs on October 29, and the Ministry of Defense could have such data and therefore have a formal reason for such an accusation. Although, in my opinion, it cannot be ruled out that these were still American instructors - after all, it was the United States that planned to equip the naval base for marines in Ochakovo.

Secondly, the Russian authorities at the moment are still counting on a constructive dialogue with Washington and do not even rule out a meeting between Vladimir Putin and Joe Biden at the G20 summit, which will be held on November 15-16, so it is considered inappropriate to make sharp attacks against Washington. From a political point of view, in order to have a proper background on the eve of this meeting, it would be more logical to blame Britain for the attack on Crimea, and not the United States.

What was the purpose of this attack?


The next question asked by many experts, political scientists and military analysts is what exactly was the purpose of this attack?

In his material "Russia is a threat, China is a competitor: the main theses of the US National Security Strategy", I translated into Russian theses from The National Security Strategy that are directly related to Russia. There, among others, there was the following thesis:

“We (the United States - ed.) will take into account that Russia's conventional armed forces are weakened, which is likely to increase Moscow's dependence on nuclear weapons in its military planning. The United States will not allow Russia or any other power to achieve its goals through the use or threat of use of nuclear weapons."

It is worth noting that the United States and some EU countries are seriously concerned about the possibility of Russia using tactical nuclear weapons (TNW) in Ukraine. This topic is often discussed in the Western media: for example, the German magazine Der Spiegel recently accused Russia of “preparing a nuclear attack on Berlin” and NATO bases, referring to the interception of conversations of Russian Navy officers by Western intelligence services during exercises in the Baltic Sea.

Of course, the main goal of such statements is the demonization of Russia in front of the Germans and residents of other EU countries, in order to whip up hysteria, however, some Western political elites take this threat seriously. The fact that the United States is seriously considering an attack on Crimea in response to Russia's theoretical use of tactical nuclear weapons is not only stated in The National Security Strategy, such statements were made back in September by the former commander of the US Army in Europe, Ben Hodges. Let me remind you that he saidthat the US military could inflict a "crushing blow" on the Black Sea the fleet Russia, if Moscow uses nuclear weapons during a special operation in Ukraine.

Russia did not strike Ukraine with tactical nuclear weapons, but began to deliver painful blows to Kyiv on the Ukrainian energy infrastructure. And the US has decided to demonstrate that it can also up the ante in an escalation by launching a coordinated attack on Crimea at the hands of the Ukrainian military. At the same time, earlier, through the mouth of the commander of the US 101st Airborne Division "Screaming Eagles", the Americans promised to send troops to the territory of Ukraine "in the event of an escalation", hinting that they were ready for an even greater increase in rates.

Thus, there is every reason to believe that the attack on the Black Sea Fleet was a kind of warning to Russia from the United States.

Russia's withdrawal from the grain deal: what will follow?


The response to the attack on the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea was Russia's withdrawal from the grain deal. The move is quite logical, it was expected by many, but at the moment it does not look like it will be followed by any decisive action in the coming weeks.

In response to Russia's withdrawal from the deal, the delegations of Turkey, Ukraine and the UN agreed on a plan for the movement of 14 ships and said that they "notified Russia." The formulation, you see, is very curious. In fact, it means that the deal will continue to operate, but without the participation of Russia.

At the same time, there is no reason to believe that the Russian Federation is ready for decisive action, for example, to inspect and attack ships leaving the port of Odessa. At the same time, Russia said that they were “temporarily suspending” participation in the deal, and not completely withdrawing from it. This statement leaves the Russian leadership room for maneuver.

Having announced his withdrawal from the grain deal, Vladimir Putin, first of all, wants to get Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to become more actively involved in mediation between Russia and the collective West. It seems that Russia is not averse to making peace, or at least a truce, with the assistance of Erdogan, who, in turn, wants to increase the prestige and influence of Turkey in the international arena and earn political points on the eve of the elections (they will be held next year), therefore, he is interested in such mediation.

If there is no success in the diplomatic field, the response to the attack on the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea could be a massive strike by the Russian Armed Forces (primarily missile) on Ochakovo and the port in Odessa, and Russia's withdrawal from the grain deal is just a step in this direction. . Other military moves are not ruled out. However, to expect this blow before the G20 summit, apparently, is not worth it. The possibility that Putin will not go to the G20 at all cannot be ruled out either, but it still seems unlikely. Judging by the statements of some politicians, the Kremlin harbors some hopes regarding this summit.

In my opinion, they feed absolutely in vain - the current American administration has made it clear that they do not intend to conduct a dialogue with Vladimir Putin. The US National Security Strategy states this quite unambiguously. Zelensky's position - no negotiations with Putin - just reflects the position of part of the American establishment. Therefore, it seems doubtful that Russia and the United States will be able to reach any breakthrough agreements at the G20 summit. This means that we are likely to see an escalation of the military conflict in late November or early December.
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 3 November 2022 05: 33
    +40
    Russia's withdrawal from the grain deal: what will follow?
    Back to the grain deal. Been back already...yesterday.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 3 November 2022 06: 24
      +35
      deal.
      It is difficult to expect anything else from the hucksters, even if they put on field marshal's boots. They climb endlessly into military affairs, and therefore everything turns out like in a famous dance school - two steps to the left, two steps to the right, a jump and a turn. But our warriors on the front line remain hostages of these dances .. how infuriating it all is. am
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 3 November 2022 06: 33
        +19
        It's hard to expect anything else from hucksters
        Duc, business, nothing personal. In addition, as they say, a huge grain harvest was harvested this year. Where to put it? I doubt that in connection with such a harvest, bread in the country will become cheaper. "From everywhere we hear groans. From all over our planet they cry for help. We must lend a helping hand, and we will stretch it" (c). smile
        1. nordscout
          nordscout 3 November 2022 19: 12
          +9
          About the war and domestic "hucksters" - very to the point and timely .... One misfortune - no one hears commentators from VO, even when their words are sheer evidence ...... Questions periodically arise - for what purpose are created such Internet publications, such as VO or the Zvezda TV channel and others from the "patriotic series" ???? It seems that THIS is one big "valve" for releasing "a couple of righteous patriotic anger and indignation", nothing more ... to them, the indifferent part, the once military public of the country ... And the hucksters, of different colors and different locations in the state sky, do their "work": they convince, persuade, deceive, relax, imitate, mislead, but, most importantly, earn our "penny" 24/7, without holidays and weekends .... The fact that we should extend "hands" (hands) of help to everyone and everything - the "thesis" is very clear for the last 75 years ... Or maybe it makes sense , feed quality, and most importantly cheap bread, your people ??? And not to give the production and sale of bread and bakery products and "milk" to "hucksters" - manufacturers and resellers?" Huh? Or is this not included in the "plans" of our "metropolitan celestials", with serious wages ??? take an active part in international "dances", at a loss, to the "pipe" of the Turkish Shah. Yes! I'm probably getting very excited - after all, the Ukrofascists gave "guarantees" of their "whiteness and fluffiness" to us, in the person of the Turkish Shah ... So " deal" to be....
        2. Blooming Sally
          Blooming Sally 3 November 2022 20: 18
          +4
          they don’t make bread from the harvest that they have harvested, although it would be better if we ate pure gray bread for 10 rubles than that beautiful g with which we are fed at 50 rubles
      2. restless
        restless 3 November 2022 07: 23
        +28
        This is treason and for this it is necessary to put up against the wall in wartime, but it’s not for our hucksters and speculators that the main thing is profit in the conditions of the bourgeoisie, but for their money who will die, it’s not interesting for them, do our military men not see this and do not understand where special services that are supposed to identify traitors and traitors, then why is this special operation in which everyone is sold, the supply of weapons has not yet been closed ...
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 3 November 2022 10: 14
          +23
          And the exchange of Azov people is not the same??????!
          1. AG-76
            AG-76 3 November 2022 11: 40
            +17
            Yes yes
            I remember that they loudly announced the "Nuremberg trial" of all criminals, everyone will be punished, no one will escape responsibility and other blah blah.
            Well, where are the trials, who were convicted, except for the three foolish mercenaries who were sentenced to the "tower" and released in peace?
            1. nordscout
              nordscout 3 November 2022 19: 28
              +3
              The main thing is to "stir up" the patriotic impulse "of the population, and then big politics, possible military-political and economic "agreements" and other "stray" wars between capitalist states come into play. And in these wars, in the first place, financial and economic a component for a certain part of the society of the warring countries .... And this part of society does "all the weather" on the theater of operations .... Do not forget - Russia is a capitalist state that has been desperately built over the past 30 years, although they are trying to convince us that " domestic" capitalism, after all, with a "human face" .... Although ....
        2. gromit
          gromit 3 November 2022 11: 18
          +18
          They see, but the army and special services belong to these bourgeois.
          And the most important bourgeois convincingly plays the role of a national leader.

          Well, do you still condemn contractors who broke the contract and people who rushed abroad?
      3. Vincent price
        Vincent price 3 November 2022 07: 37
        +4
        And why the hell are the wars on the front line obeying them?
        1. Pilot
          Pilot 3 November 2022 07: 41
          +11
          Quote from Vincent Price
          And why the hell are the wars on the front line obeying them?
          So where can you go, the military are obliged to obey the senior ranks - some civilians wear field marshal boots ..
          1. AUL
            AUL 3 November 2022 08: 11
            +10
            Quote: Pilot
            boots are field marshals worn by some civilians ..

            The trouble is, since the shoemaker began to bake pies,
            And boots to sew a pieman!
            (C) A.I. Krylov
    2. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 3 November 2022 09: 15
      +12
      The position of the US and its allies on this issue is even more depressing. Not only will they not have any dialogue with the current president of Russia, but also with all those who surround him now. Their position: the conversation will be only after the new presidential elections under the auspices of the "West" and the control of the counting of votes by Western controllers, while none of the existing politicians and entrepreneurs of Russia, except for those who shake hands with the "West", should put forward their candidacies. But that's in theory. But in practice ... You can offer something that the United States will find it difficult to refuse, for example ... China and something else in the appendage. I think that something similar is being prepared. It is no coincidence that all articles about the "Great Friendship" with China have recently disappeared in the media and vice versa, articles have appeared that China is "this and that" ..
  2. G17
    G17 3 November 2022 05: 48
    +41
    The ink of this article and the public (!) confessions of President Putin that the Western partners once again easily and naturally deceived him with the "grain deal" have not yet dried up, as Russia has already obediently returned to its execution. And this is after the explosion of the Crimean bridge, after the NATO attack on Sevastopol, after the West continues to block its markets for Russian grain. As it turns out, Erdogan called Putin and said that the fascists were coming out with some "guarantees" that from now on they would be good fascists and would adhere to civilized rules in the war of annihilation against Russia. In 2014, I remember, the very serious character Didier Burkhalter had to be urgently sent to Moscow for a personal conversation with the Russian president. Now the world ratings of the Russian Federation, due to the incessant "cunning plans" and "regroupings", have fallen so low that negotiations with the Kremlin on behalf of the collective West are being conducted by the third-ranking Turkish sultan in the world hierarchy. And he achieves his goal perfectly - not even with personal meetings, but simply with a phone call. Maybe it's enough to play giveaway with the West? He perceives any readiness for negotiations as weakness and cowardice of Russia, after which he even more inflates the degree of bitterness in the war.
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 3 November 2022 06: 17
      +12
      The fascists gave guarantees that they would be good fascists))))
      1. Vladimir M
        Vladimir M 3 November 2022 07: 42
        +18
        The most interesting thing is that these fascists did not give any guarantees to Russia personally! It's just not possible. They have adopted a law - no negotiations with Russia. But Erdogan said that they would take out the grain, as before - and they are taking it out. Who turns out to be a balobol?
        1. sadam2
          sadam2 3 November 2022 08: 01
          +9
          Also, I did not see any official guarantees of the immunity of the Black Sea Fleet yesterday. all only from the words of the Turks.
          After 2 weeks, if the guarantor flies to Indonesia on j20, then as I understand it, it is necessary to voice at least some kind of agenda for the peacekeeper and the breadwinner of Africa
          1. Vladimir M
            Vladimir M 3 November 2022 08: 03
            +7
            Why feed that Africa? Extra grain? so feed your livestock.
            1. sadam2
              sadam2 3 November 2022 08: 10
              +15
              Quote: Vladimir M
              so feed your livestock.

              why are you trolling so hard?
              recently they discussed here - wheat of the 1st-2nd grade is exported ... well, domestic consumption is the 3rd grade))
          2. cold wind
            cold wind 3 November 2022 08: 30
            +19
            Quote from Sadam2
            Also, I did not see any official guarantees of the immunity of the Black Sea Fleet yesterday. all only from the words of the Turks.

            Worse. The Turks also did not say anything about this.
            There is only a statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry that someone gave them some assurances from someone else. It's less than nothing.
            1. Negro
              Negro 3 November 2022 12: 20
              -1
              Quote from cold wind
              There is only a statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry that someone gave them some assurances from someone

              What about the Foreign Ministry? Not MO?
        2. smart ass
          smart ass 3 November 2022 11: 43
          +3
          I remembered Chamberlain ... waving a piece of paper and shouting I brought you peace!)))
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  3. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 3 November 2022 05: 51
    +5
    Boat attack - British style. Let us remember the Kronstadt wake-up call!
  4. odometer
    odometer 3 November 2022 05: 55
    +22
    What other warnings from the United States if the top is doing everything in the interests of the United States ... And they are not Russia for me ... That's who to write down as foreign agents ...
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 3 November 2022 08: 31
      -30
      Quote: curvimeter
      What other warnings from the United States if the top is doing everything in the interests of the United States

      So what was it? Maybe you are mistaken in saying that all power is corrupt?

      Quote: curvimeter
      ... they are not Russia for me ...

      The slogan: "We love the motherland, but we hate the authorities" belongs to the Vlasovites of all stripes.

      Quote: curvimeter
      That's who to write down as foreign agents ...

      Sign up - you can't go wrong.

      On this topic.

      We know perfectly well who committed this Act of attack on the Black Sea Fleet. The Ambassador of England was summoned to the Foreign Office, in connection with this incident, and a note of protest was handed to him.

      We reacted to the attack on the Black Sea Fleet, withdrew from the deal, figured it out and resumed our participation in the grain deal, thereby frustrating the West's plans to accuse us of famine in Africa, which was what this provocation was designed for.

      ps
      The publication of the article is very late.
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 3 November 2022 09: 21
        +20
        Oh Boris (stress on the first syllable)! Before entering the forum, have you already prayed for the icon of the Sun-faced, on which he: in one hand holds the allegedly "protected by him" Constitution, and in the other, a list of his promises?
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 3 November 2022 09: 57
          -21
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          You have already prayed for the icon of the Sun-faced

          I have a lot of complaints about him, but I do not intend to discuss them here.

          It is possible to judge the activities of a manager of this level only by the results of his work. He accepted Russia, which without the "bush legs" would die out many times faster, and now the West has besieged us from all sides, is waging war with us on all 6 priorities of managing humanity, and at least we have henna and in Ukraine we (on the 6th control priority) win. So yes, I consider Putin equal to Stalin. One and the other accepted Russia at the moment when the question was being decided whether to be it or not. One and the other kept it and this is a fact.

          Do not look at tactical decisions that at first glance may seem absurd, look at the whole process as a whole. Although ... to whom I say this ...
          1. Deon59
            Deon59 3 November 2022 11: 04
            +9
            At 98, we were dying out, probably thumped day and night at that time. And about the West besieged Russia, so who is to blame - Mr. Putin. Who allowed the war to enter our house, who allowed the shelling of our territories and the death of our citizens - zeroed Putin. list or continue listing the successes of the sun-faced.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 3 November 2022 11: 54
              -17
              Quote from Deon59
              so who is to blame - Mr. Putin

              In your opinion, did he set up a Maidan in Kyiv, did he fire at our people in the Donbass for 8 years? Cattle are fattened before being slaughtered. If you like to live in a barn (warm, satisfying, comfortable) - live and wait for your turn at the meat processing plant.

              1. Deon59
                Deon59 3 November 2022 12: 45
                +8
                There, before the Maidan, 3 billion dollars were invested, and for 8 years he watched how Russians were being killed. And why should we live in hunger and poverty .. Putin kept us in a barn for 20 years, fed us water and we mooed together when he appeared , and terer launched us under the slaughter.
          2. Kronos
            Kronos 3 November 2022 11: 26
            +8
            Putin is equal only to Gorbachev as the successor of his work and Yeltsin's disciple.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 3 November 2022 11: 49
              -18
              Quote: Kronos
              Putin is equal only to Gorbachev as the successor of his work and Yeltsin's disciple.

              Humpback needed a five-year period to hammer the last nail into the coffin of the USSR, and Putin did not have enough 20 years to destroy Russia. And you consider them equal? laughing
      2. Blooming Sally
        Blooming Sally 3 November 2022 20: 26
        +2
        read the constitution of the Russian Federation from cover to cover, the hanger of labels is unfinished.
    2. AdAstra
      AdAstra 3 November 2022 09: 56
      +2
      You will be recorded faster for your comments laughing hi
  5. Leader_Barmaleev
    Leader_Barmaleev 3 November 2022 06: 00
    +36
    A brief summary of the article - we are ... being pushed, but we are growing stronger. I have never been a military analyst, from the point of view of common sense, I am the same couch expert who is ridiculed in their posts by other, no less couch fighters. So I get the impression (note, based on such articles, since the intelligence and analytics departments do not report anything to me) that the country's top leadership behaves either like a known substance in an ice hole, or like a tin can in the wind - there is a lot of erratic fluttering, zero sense . They shoot at us - we make statements, today we left the deal, tomorrow we entered again. America and Europe stole Ukrainian grain, and we will take ours to Africa for free. No, of course, it’s insanely pitiful for the starving kids of Africa and their lazy freeloader parents, but WHY, INSTEAD OF ARRESTING GRAIN CARRIERS FLOATING THE WRONG WHERE AND NOT SENDING THEM WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, WE TAKE OBLIGATIONS FOR WHICH NO ONE EVEN THANKS TO US ?? ? They will twist a finger at the temple, they will devour the bread and forget it. And now a vague doubt creeps into my ingenuous soul - the military and political authorities of the Russian Federation are twisting as they want businessmen and bankers - only they can remove fat foam from this seething shit. And as long as the same oligarchy is in real power in the country, they will continue to beat us, and in response we will smile and throw slogans. I do not propose to change anything, because it is useless. I'm just sorry.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 3 November 2022 06: 13
      +3
      WE TAKE OBLIGATIONS FOR WHICH NO ONE EVEN THANKS TO US?
      At the summit, they will say ..: "A huge thank you from humanity saved from hunger!" Maybe kanesh. smile
      1. Frank Muller
        Frank Muller 4 November 2022 00: 24
        +1
        They will say, they will definitely say. Only in a whisper, and then to himself. And in the open, looking at "Uncle Sam", they will laugh in the face: "Come on, we are greedy for freebies!"
    2. smart ass
      smart ass 3 November 2022 06: 19
      +23
      Remember when Russia helped dying Italy from covid on all channels. Does Italy remember this now?
      1. bionik
        bionik 3 November 2022 06: 32
        +28
        Quote: Clever man
        Remember when Russia helped dying Italy from covid on all channels. Does Italy remember this now?

        Of course, she remembers that she sent self-propelled guns to copper.
    3. Dimy4
      Dimy4 3 November 2022 07: 36
      +13
      WHY, INSTEAD OF ARRESTING THE GRAIN CARRIERS WHICH GO THE WRONG WHERE AND NOT DIRECTING THEM WHERE IT IS REQUIRED, WE TAKE OBLIGATIONS FOR WHICH NO ONE WILL EVEN THANKS TO US???

      And this is always the case when there are ch.m.o.sh.niks and s.s. ykuns in power. You know who I'm talking about, he is also yap.
    4. ViktorBiryukov
      3 November 2022 09: 07
      +20
      Have you ever thought about the question - does Russia even have the opportunity to arrest these ships? Firstly, one of the guarantors of the "grain deal" is Turkey, whose fleet, frankly, is much stronger than the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation (I think there is no need to explain what the Black Sea Fleet is - everyone sees everything anyway), and theoretically the Turks can simply put your escort for bulk carriers. And what - Russia will declare war on Turkey? Secondly, as I already pointed out in the article, Erdogan is an intermediary between the Russian Federation and the West, and Moscow really needs him in this capacity, because. it simply does not have other mediators, and it will be problematic to try to negotiate without Turkey. I am now saying unpopular things, but these are facts. Of course, you can say - why should Russia negotiate with the West and the USA at all? Here I can answer a question with a question - do you see Russia winning a convincing victory in Ukraine? Not? That's what I don't see. To the question "why was it necessary to announce the exit from the deal in order to enter it again with a loss of face" (in fact, the deal would continue to work without the Russian Federation), I have no answer. Apparently another "multi-move".
      1. Leader_Barmaleev
        Leader_Barmaleev 3 November 2022 09: 33
        +17
        In general, I agree with you. It was not me who said - ubi nil vales, ibi nil velis - where you can do nothing, there you should not want anything. It is not clear to me why our authorities got into this deal at all, knowing full well all the decorativeness of this presence. Well, they would let Ukraine be robbed, well, they would sell grain to those who are ready to buy it, they would give it for free to those who tearfully ask and promise something good. So no - once again they screwed up badly ... A multi-move is good when some kind of profit is expected at the exit, but here there is only spending, humiliation and another decrease in the loyalty of the electorate. I understand that while the electorate is the minimum significant value in the equation of power, but this cannot go on forever.
        1. ViktorBiryukov
          3 November 2022 09: 38
          +2
          At the expense of the multi-move, it was sarcasm, if anything :)
          1. Leader_Barmaleev
            Leader_Barmaleev 3 November 2022 09: 43
            +7
            Of course, you can suspect me that I did not see the quotes, and if I did, then I certainly misunderstood their deep meaning. So I assure you that it's not good
        2. Kronos
          Kronos 3 November 2022 11: 28
          +4
          There is a profit for those who concluded it in the form of money, but the interests of the country and the opinion of the population do not play a role for the authorities.
      2. gromit
        gromit 3 November 2022 11: 34
        +2
        You describe everything correctly.
        But after all it is necessary for readers to share emotions.
        We cannot vote for the opposition, because there is no real one left, neither liberals nor communists.
        You won't go to the rally either.
        Even for a single picket, they will politely ask you to show your passport, and then you will be turned away from work.
        Here we are on the forum and come off. It's useless, but you have to use it until it's banned too.
      3. Rustic
        Rustic 4 November 2022 05: 00
        0
        theoretically, the Turks can simply supply their escorts for bulk carriers. And what - Russia will declare war on Turkey?
        With the same success, one can say that Turkey will declare war on Russia if we try to detain bulk carriers? Note that the Black Sea Fleet will specifically delay bulk carriers. And the Turkish fleet will attack the Russian Navy. Do you understand the difference?
  6. for
    for 3 November 2022 06: 16
    +2
    Again looking for the guilty. Well, the US is guilty, what's next?
  7. Boris-5
    Boris-5 3 November 2022 06: 40
    +10
    Everything is as always, like we will do it, but we bark from under the bench.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 November 2022 06: 47
    +6
    The participation of the United States in the British-Ukrainian attack on the ships of the Black Sea Fleet is undeniable even without any English highly likely. And it's hard to imagine that the Americans would not take part in such an "event" directed against Russia. But what is our reaction and whether it is adequate to what happened. They struck at the base in Ochakovo (they had already struck before), suspended it, and then, to the delight of the West, resumed the "grain deal". AND? If specific offensive actions of the Anglo-Saxon special services are carried out against us, terrorist attacks by Ukrainian hands, do we have the right to respond in kind? I think we have, and complete. But how, with what and where to answer in such a way that it is permanently ingrained in the Anglo-Saxon memory should be decided by the special services with the support of the President's volitional decision.
    1. Leader_Barmaleev
      Leader_Barmaleev 3 November 2022 07: 25
      +14
      With strong-willed decisions, we have an eternal perdimonokol ... All strong-willed decisions of our authorities at all levels come down to a firm and unconditional CAN BE.
      1. Simple
        Simple 3 November 2022 18: 35
        0
        [quote = rotmistr60] then do we have the right to respond in kind? I think we have, and complete.
        [quote = Leader_Barmaleev] Here, with strong-willed decisions, we have an eternal fart monocle. [/ Quote]

        In order to make decisions adequate to incidents (blockade of the seaports of Bandera Ukraine), one must be potent both to the action itself and to the consequences. Apparently, the circumstances are such that there is no time for sovereign decisions.
        Most likely choose the lesser of two evils. And everyone hopes, hopes ... maybe they will be understood and forgiven.
  9. ZAV69
    ZAV69 3 November 2022 07: 52
    +3
    You can theorize as much as you like while sitting at the computer, but you will never know what is in the head of our Ministry of Defense and the Supreme.
  10. Adagka
    Adagka 3 November 2022 08: 07
    +16
    Quote: restless
    This is treason and for this it is necessary to put up against the wall in wartime, but it’s not for our hucksters and speculators that the main thing is profit in the conditions of the bourgeoisie, but for their money who will die, it’s not interesting for them, do our military men not see this and do not understand where special services that are supposed to identify traitors and traitors, then why is this special operation in which everyone is sold, the supply of weapons has not yet been closed ...

    What to reveal them then? All traitors are sitting in the Kremlin. In all this foul-smelling svo, another thing is interesting - with what hangover did it even begin? But if you remember how it all began and this whole circus with shaking and trembling members of the council from whom they pulled consent with ticks, everything falls into place. One character just played too much and, as they say, believed in himself, so the former partners began work on a replacement. And to say so, the comrades-in-arms and henchmen of the former partners did not help much in this, they collectively smeared this very own without goals, tasks and deadlines.
  11. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 3 November 2022 08: 11
    +10
    "This is the school of Solomon Shklyar, the School of ballroom dancing, they tell you. Two steps to the left, Two steps to the right, Step up and two back. Gentlemen Invite the ladies, Where the brooch is, There is pyrod. ... Two steps to the left, Two steps to the right, Step back and step back. Ladies, don't sniff at the curtains! It's indecent, they tell you. It's indecent, not hygienic And not pretty, they tell you. Hey you people, help Borya Help Borya, they tell you. He made a puddle Right in in the corridor A step forward and two back. Adik Rabinovich! I have to go out. I have to go out, they tell you. You will replace me here ... Step forward and two back "(c)
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 November 2022 08: 22
    +6
    And how much more will we crush the tits? Are our authorities not learning anything?
  13. ivan2022
    ivan2022 3 November 2022 08: 58
    +10
    In other words, a warning to Russia that its sovereignty has limits. And you need to know your place.
  14. Przepolak
    Przepolak 3 November 2022 08: 59
    +8
    On the eve of a mass UAV attack on ships of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in the Sevastopol Bay, an American strategic reconnaissance drone RQ-4B Global Hawk was spotted in neutral airspace over the Black Sea. According to the web service Flightradar24, which tracks the movement of aircraft, a US drone took off from a NATO airbase near the city of Catania in Sicily and for some time patrolled some distance from the southern coast of Crimea. By a strange coincidence, he did this, including during the UAV attack on the Black Sea Fleet.


    By an amazing coincidence, this drone has been circling over the Black Sea EVERY DAY since the very beginning of the NWO.
  15. Alexy
    Alexy 3 November 2022 09: 02
    +15
    It seems to me that Russia has already lost this war, without even really starting. Now the leadership just needs to somehow get out of this swamp. I don't have any other explanation for what's going on. And Ukraine, by the way, won. They had the task of holding the defense and letting Russia get stuck in the war, which they had repeatedly stated before February 24th. So, they have completed their task and over-fulfilled it. Hello to our General Staff.
  16. FoBoss_VM
    FoBoss_VM 3 November 2022 09: 02
    +2
    You don't have to negotiate with anyone. We must show ourselves strong, consistent in decisions and inevitable in punishment. Then no one will think to blather and even raise a filthy paw
    1. Frank Muller
      Frank Muller 4 November 2022 00: 37
      +2
      Only the strong can show themselves strong. Consistent - consistent. Decisive - resolute. Our government has already shown itself in all these guises that it had only one force behind which lies deep disappointment: "They didn't believe it! Now we need to get out somehow."
  17. Million
    Million 3 November 2022 09: 15
    +13
    The Kremlin once again washed its face with the spit of the West. Most likely, this will happen more and more often.
  18. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 3 November 2022 09: 22
    +11
    Russia has already returned to the grain deal, believing Kyiv (!) ... And the purpose of the drone attack on ships and the Black Sea Fleet base was purely reconnaissance - collecting data on the radar grid of ships and on the coast, stationary and mobile radars, anti-aircraft guns, air defense systems and electronic warfare stations, aviation. And about the general actions of the coastal defense of the Sevastopol base, its air defense systems and anti-sabotage protection, the interception of negotiations. Standard opening of sector defenses with the help of provocation. No wonder the American reconnaissance drone walked there. And probably not only he "copied" everything. We have received the necessary picture, now, taking into account the data received, they will correct subsequent possible strikes on Sevastopol and the entire Crimea.
    1. ViktorBiryukov
      3 November 2022 09: 35
      +9
      The Grain Deal would have worked without Russia returning there, simply because there was no way she could interfere with its functioning (see my post above). The question is that since they have already left, it would be better to continue to sit and frown menacingly, and not expose yourself to the general laughing stock of agreeing to the "guarantees" of Ukraine. Zelensky is already openly joking about this on video. As for new attacks, they will certainly be, but only when the Americans see fit and give Kyiv the go-ahead. So far this has been just a small demonstration. Will there be a response to this attack? I don’t even rule out that instead of a military response, which many expect and predict (including myself), most of the Black Sea Fleet will be relocated from Crimea to Novorossiysk. Hopefully this won't happen though.
      1. TatarinSSSR
        TatarinSSSR 3 November 2022 09: 48
        -1
        Most likely, they will kick the heads of those responsible and strengthen the security and defense of the Black Sea Fleet and its infrastructure. And the grain deal was extended, because there are no other options, they can do without us. In addition, quarreling with Turkey is not an option now.
      2. AdAstra
        AdAstra 3 November 2022 10: 03
        +4
        And why in Novorossiysk? Let's immediately go somewhere to the north or east, it will be more reliable.
      3. Serg65
        Serg65 3 November 2022 12: 55
        +4
        Quote: Viktor Biryukov
        most of the Black Sea Fleet will be relocated from Crimea to Novorossiysk.

        Mr. Writer, half of the fleet has been stationed in Novorossiysk for a long time!
      4. Vikxnumx
        Vikxnumx 3 November 2022 18: 05
        -1
        The grain deal would have worked without Russia returning there, simply because it would not have been able to interfere with its functioning in any way.

        A couple of ships will blow up on unidentified mines ...
        and no one else is lucky!
        How many mines were fired in the Suez Canal? How much was shipping?
        1. Frank Muller
          Frank Muller 4 November 2022 00: 42
          +1
          All "unidentified" mines will be automatically and machine-gunned into the assets of the Russian Federation. Of course, with all the additional preferences.
  19. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 3 November 2022 09: 38
    -5
    Quote: Pilot
    It is difficult to expect anything else from hucksters, even if they put on field marshal's boots.

    And here I am ready to argue with you: What prevents Russia from withdrawing from the grain deal completely, to arrest any ships that left Odessa with a cargo of grain and to declare the cargo - grain as a trophy that Russia got during the NWO.
    Then send / sell the grain to those in need in Africa and Asia, but already on behalf of Russia.
    In this case, those hucksters will earn much more, and the cold ones will not receive currency from the sale of that grain.
    1. AdAstra
      AdAstra 3 November 2022 10: 05
      +17
      It interferes with the fact that the Black Sea Fleet for the entire time of the creation of "unparalleled in the world" turned out to be a little different from the fleet and turned out to be a little weaker than the Turkish one, not to mention any other nata hi
    2. Essex62
      Essex62 3 November 2022 10: 07
      +5
      This has already been answered. Hinders the lack of opportunity to do so. There is no strength.
    3. Serg65
      Serg65 3 November 2022 12: 57
      +3
      Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
      to arrest any ships leaving Odessa with a cargo of grain and to declare the cargo - grain as a trophy

      Based on what? This cargo does not belong to Ukraine and has no military value, why will you arrest?
  20. Glucky73
    Glucky73 3 November 2022 10: 26
    +4
    https://www.flightradar24.com/FORTE11/2e14394d
    He hangs there every day
  21. Former soldier
    Former soldier 3 November 2022 10: 27
    +2
    Drone attack on the Black Sea Fleet is a warning to Russia from the United States

    So it is not clear what they are warning Russia about?
  22. Dimy4
    Dimy4 3 November 2022 10: 33
    +9
    Yes, you don’t even need to attack, just your friend Erdogan will call you, he will immediately get scared and do what they want from him. A man with a broad soul, loves enemies, but against the soldiers of his country .... from a high bell tower.
  23. Former soldier
    Former soldier 3 November 2022 10: 36
    -9
    A question for those who criticize the actions of the Russian authorities. The ascertaining part, that all polymers were asked to be repeated, is not necessary.
    What are your specific suggestions?
    ps Bomb Washington, shoot everyone, "improve / deepen" - do not offer.
    1. gromit
      gromit 3 November 2022 11: 58
      +2
      Specific proposal - In the future, to reduce the hours of the Second World War in the school curriculum.
      Multiply the hours for the Crimean, Russian-Japanese, World War I. With an emphasis on the scientific and technological backwardness and degradation of the ruling elites.


      In the current situation, it remains to conscientiously fulfill their work and official duties and wait for the outcome.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 3 November 2022 13: 00
        -5
        Quote from Gromit
        With an emphasis on the scientific and technological backwardness and degradation of the ruling elites.

        I'm sorry .. what is the lag and degradation?
        1. gromit
          gromit 3 November 2022 13: 19
          +3
          Little books are read.
          "Russia doesn’t understand,
          No yardstick to measure:
          She has a special feature -
          You can only believe in Russia "
          F. Tyutchev
          And this is also Tyutchev -
          "In order to create such a hopeless situation, the monstrous stupidity of this unfortunate man was needed, who during his thirty-year reign, being constantly in the most favorable conditions, did not take advantage of anything and missed everything, having managed to start a fight under the most impossible circumstances"
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 3 November 2022 14: 50
            -2
            Quote from Gromit
            And this is also Tyutchev

            Those. there will be no personal answer?
            1. gromit
              gromit 3 November 2022 15: 11
              +6
              In a war, the RF Armed Forces are technically inferior to the enemy (the enemy means NATO countries). The government of the Russian Federation is also inferior to the governments of the NATO countries both in terms of professional qualities (having entered the war without allies and not preparing in advance for serious military operations), and in terms of moral and strong-willed qualities (misinforming its own population about the situation at the front and violating its own slogans about "red lines")

              If the government of the Russian Federation does not dare to use quantitative superiority (I hope this will not happen), then I personally am sure that the stated goals of the NWO will not be achieved.
              It is possible that in the process of negotiations it will be possible to get a piece of Ukraine, passing it off as a victory for the domestic audience.

              Do you want to refute this?
          2. Former soldier
            Former soldier 3 November 2022 16: 24
            -3
            And this is also Tyutchev -
            "In order to create such a hopeless situation, the monstrous stupidity of this unfortunate man was needed, who during his thirty-year reign, being constantly in the most favorable conditions, did not take advantage of anything and missed everything, having managed to start a fight under the most impossible circumstances"

            This is again the ascertaining part, about the fact that all polymers have been asked. The darkness of whistleblowers and accusers.
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 3 November 2022 13: 02
      0
      Quote: Former soldier
      Bomb Washington, shoot everyone

      The most obsessive dream of many here is the change of the "rotten regime"! And war, losses, grain ... this is just an entourage!
      1. haron
        haron 3 November 2022 18: 05
        0
        Quote: Serg65

        The most obsessive dream of many here is the change of the "rotten regime"!

        Rather, it is necessary to change the places of wishes. First, the change of the "rotten regime", and then
        Quote: Serg65
        Bomb Washington, shoot everyone

        As for the fact that at this time everyone should be conscientiously engaged in their own business, and not tear their shirt and get into their own business, it was written by L.N. Tolstoy in War and Peace. It was this moment that he pointed out as one of the most important, which led to the well-known result.
  24. koralevviktor
    koralevviktor 3 November 2022 10: 56
    0
    The issue of breach of contract. This time we broke it. America is unaware of this. That is, in a different way, it is only they who can perform such actions. It's all about what we can realistically answer. Time will tell, as will the events themselves.
  25. Adagka
    Adagka 3 November 2022 11: 09
    +11
    Quote: Former soldier
    A question for those who criticize the actions of the Russian authorities. The ascertaining part, that all polymers were asked to be repeated, is not necessary.
    What are your specific suggestions?
    ps Bomb Washington, shoot everyone, "improve / deepen" - do not offer.

    You don’t need everyone - you can start with Nabiullina and Siluanov - for bad money, Naryshkin - for absolutely unreliable intelligence, Borisov - for the lack of UAVs, Rogozin - for the lack of satellites.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 3 November 2022 13: 03
      -6
      Quote: Adagka
      Naryshkin - for absolutely unreliable intelligence, Borisov - for the lack of UAVs, Rogozin - for the lack of satellites.

      laughing good Circus, just a circus!
    2. Former soldier
      Former soldier 4 November 2022 21: 08
      0
      Naryshkin - for absolutely unreliable intelligence,

      The pale appearance of Naryshkin just spoke of the fact that he had reliable data. This has been noted by many.
  26. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 November 2022 11: 19
    +2
    There is no data about the drone boats themselves ... Who made them? Are they serial or DIY 404?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 3 November 2022 11: 56
      +9
      These submersible maritime drones of the Shahid level are an aluminum-fiberglass hull + a commercial boat water cannon + a Starlink antenna + a camera unit + control system drives + a warhead with several detonation circuits.

  27. rotkiv04
    rotkiv04 3 November 2022 11: 47
    +15
    Regrettably, but as long as Putin is in the Kremlin, nothing will change in this war, this man is a mumbling and coddling in life, and this is confirmed by all 20 years of his power
    1. Garik Gorkin
      Garik Gorkin 4 November 2022 00: 53
      -5
      Instead of Putin, the oligarchs will gladly offer you Medvedev or Shoigu.
      And as for Putin, the United States, Britain, Ukraine, Russian oligarchs (Yeltsin's pro-Americans) really want his replacement, the opposition will pile on.
      It is strange that your desire to remove Putin coincides with the desire of Russia's opponents.
      1. rotkiv04
        rotkiv04 4 November 2022 09: 32
        -1
        Quote: Garik Gorkin
        Instead of Putin, the oligarchs will gladly offer you Medvedev or Shoigu.
        And as for Putin, the United States, Britain, Ukraine, Russian oligarchs (Yeltsin's pro-Americans) really want his replacement, the opposition will pile on.
        It is strange that your desire to remove Putin coincides with the desire of Russia's opponents.

        then, in your opinion, oligarchs rule in Russia and it is impossible to find a more worthy person for the presidency in 20 years than Putin? Putin realized his potential in the first 8 years, now it is a complete PR and hanging noodles on the ears of the people, his main task is to find a worthy replacement for himself, so that the new person is not a protege of the oligarchs, unlike himself
  28. Conjurer
    Conjurer 3 November 2022 11: 54
    +2
    Drone attack on the Black Sea Fleet is a warning to Russia from the United States

    No, just a provocation. You can quarrel Russia with Turkey (otherwise, something, the Turk imagined himself), again declare the culprit of world hunger (and put the squeeze on India, which does not support the United States in the UN, hesitates, or rather, tries to sit on two chairs), pull back part of the forces and , respectively, funds to protect the fleet base from a new threat, legalize the supply of new weapons to Ukraine (marine drones), divert some of the funds and forces of developers to urgently search for countering a new threat and thereby slow down development in other areas and much more. The standard US tactic is to disperse enemy forces by creating a variety of threats, including false ones (deep memory, star wars, for example). For the enemy, the correct tactic is not to fall for a false attack, but to make your own, not expected by the enemy.
    Regarding the grain deal and its operation without Russia. Funny. It is enough to start hammering on ports again, and not just on energy, and it's over. Is this really not clear? This is simply what the US expects in response to its provocation. The answer must be the opposite.
  29. iouris
    iouris 3 November 2022 12: 03
    +7
    If you do not take forceful actions against the US and NATO, then the matter will end in military defeat. It is even difficult to imagine the consequences of a military defeat.
  30. spirit
    spirit 3 November 2022 12: 28
    +12
    All this suggests one thing: the Black Sea Fleet turned out to be a "zilch" which is a target on the high seas, only a few can repel PKR attacks. But all the "generals" are in place. It is apparently easier for Putin to wash himself with "feces" than to admit his mistakes and start acting inside. From this and fables for the domestic consumer about alleged contracts. But in fact, "Volodya" was sent on an erotic journey on foot. And he is happy to wash himself hi
    1. Former soldier
      Former soldier 3 November 2022 12: 42
      -8
      All this says one thing: the Black Sea Fleet turned out to be a "zilch" which is a target on the high seas,

      In fact, any aircraft carrier with its escort on the high seas is an excellent target. And now not only for China or Russia, but also for Iran or North Korea, for example. An aircraft carrier is good for a weak enemy that does not have nuclear weapons or cruise missiles with a range of 2-7 thousand km.
      1. Victor Leningradets
        Victor Leningradets 3 November 2022 19: 38
        -3
        Thank God, there are still competent commentators.
        All AUGs, All SAC aircraft, all illuminated SSBNs are targets for strategic nuclear forces and carriers of tactical nuclear weapons (we are just waiting for orders). I have a bad idea of ​​the fate of the AUG covered with dozens of warheads. Immortal words: "If death - then instantaneous."
  31. Serg65
    Serg65 3 November 2022 12: 45
    -2
    Victor Biryukov

    Dear author, there is no bonnet barrier in the South Bay of Sevastopol! Victor, is there at least a couple of your personal thoughts in this article?
    1. ViktorBiryukov
      3 November 2022 13: 14
      +6
      And the RF Ministry of Defense says that there is, and in this case, I referred just to their statement.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 3 November 2022 14: 52
        -4
        Quote: Viktor Biryukov
        And the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation says that there is

        No need to copy everything without thinking!
      2. navycat777
        navycat777 3 November 2022 17: 08
        0
        It is not clear what kind of barrier is meant here. And where were they and which one was damaged?
  32. Vikxnumx
    Vikxnumx 3 November 2022 17: 59
    0
    Why such a reliable air defense system? Isn't it time to recruit a calculation of gouging who "by mistake" gouge a couple of scouts?
    Ukrainians studied on airliners! Train ours on Raptors and Hawks!
  33. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 3 November 2022 19: 02
    +3
    Ukraine gave guarantees to the "grain deal". To believe in Kyiv is not to respect yourself. What are their guarantees - known.

    Deceived as always.
  34. Duncan
    Duncan 3 November 2022 19: 47
    +3
    This is not a warning, but simply a statement of the relaxation of the brains of some commanders.
    It is enough to compare how many barrels were used in Kyiv at Gerani and in the Sevastopol Bay at floating drones.
  35. alebdun2000
    alebdun2000 3 November 2022 20: 10
    0
    So Khazin said that Russia had agreed with the Republican elite, Britain would weaken, because. The USA is shrinking and shrinking to AUKUS, and there Britain is not needed strong, only the USA. That's why the "semi-friendship" with the Americans. By the way, this explains why we want to make a gas hub from the Turks in order to remove the Britons from the Mediterranean region at the expense of a strong Turkey. Respect for the Turks from local bros (they bank gas), we have peace in the Caucasus + the departure of the Turks from the idea of ​​creating their caliphate in Central Asia by the Turks + the weakening of Britain as our historical enemy. This explains the grain deal, ours threw respect from the Middle East into the basket for the Turks that only they can "talk" with Russia. Big comrade game. Here I see an explanation why Russia was slow, and is still slow to defeat the Ukrainians, the logic is obvious .... and SP1,2 was blown up, I won’t be surprised that ours knew, therefore they are silent
  36. plant15
    plant15 3 November 2022 20: 11
    0
    Quote: Viktor Biryukov
    To the question "why was it necessary to announce the exit from the deal in order to enter it again with a loss of face" (in fact, the deal would continue to work without the Russian Federation), I have no answer. Apparently another "multi-move".

    It seems to me that, being in the status of the main participant in the transaction, to exit the transaction and observe that this does not affect anything is an incomparably greater "loss of face" than to enter the transaction again after a menacing but short-lived sniff. Might be able to influence something.
    In short.
    Of the two big embarrassments, they chose the smaller one.
  37. Eug
    Eug 3 November 2022 20: 56
    0
    A subtle hint that Russia needs to agree to the conditions put forward at the ongoing "consultations" - to leave Kherson and the north of the Donetsk region to Ukraine, everything else occupied by Russia remains for the time being. and seems to be the subject of further negotiations. If this becomes a reality, and not just the fruit of my inflamed brain, then, as for me, Ukraine, with the support of the West, will great "wipe" Russia, forcing it to another gesture of "good will." All of the above made sense to me.
  38. Ponimatel
    Ponimatel 3 November 2022 22: 21
    0
    it looks doubtful that at the G20 summit Russia and the United States will be able to achieve any breakthrough agreements. This means that we are likely to see an escalation of the military conflict in late November or early December.

    In this case, is there any point in participating in the summit?
  39. certero
    certero 3 November 2022 23: 20
    +1
    One thing is not clear, why our elite cannot figure out in any way that "everything will be decided on the battlefield?"
    No agreements that are not backed up by real force mean nothing in the modern world.
  40. Anadyrean
    Anadyrean 4 November 2022 02: 19
    0
    The collapse and disgrace left by Gorbachev and Yeltsin will take a long time to rake up. But let's dig.
    1. Altmann
      Altmann 6 November 2022 14: 41
      0
      Gorbachev would have been a decent man, even stupid in his idealism, and this intelligent decent man made more mistakes than the mere drunkard Yeltsin. Gorbachev dissolved the Warsaw Pact and that was the end of a strong Russia. Only with strong blows will Russia return to where it will be a great power. am
  41. Chack wessel
    Chack wessel 4 November 2022 08: 10
    0
    I recalled Vyshnegradsky with his statement (or attributed to him) "We won't finish it, but we'll take it out!" :)
  42. navycat777
    navycat777 4 November 2022 08: 42
    +1
    Damage to the bonnet barrier is a US warning - a funny pearl of the author in relation to a country falling into insanity smile
  43. yuriy1863
    yuriy1863 4 November 2022 15: 22
    0
    [quote] for example, the German magazine Der Spiegel recently accused Russia of "preparing a nuclear strike on Berlin" and NATO bases, referring to the interception of conversations of Russian Navy officers by Western intelligence services during exercises in the Baltic Sea. in the conversations of officers of the USSR Navy!
  44. Anyuta Glorious
    Anyuta Glorious 4 November 2022 22: 45
    0
    Alas, there are no more in the Russian army and in the leadership of the state those who went through the Great Patriotic War ... Those who saw, who learned (including from the Germans) - how to actually fight (rapidly, harshly, powerfully), those who who saw homeless women and children, destroyed cities and burned villages ... The one who went through and saw all this, then fought and acted very effectively - in Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Angola, in the same Budapest and Prague, in Afghanistan - everywhere the tasks were solved, except for Afghanistan, but there was simply not enough time for this - together with normal Afghans they pressed the enemies there too.
    Now another era has come, the era of bureaucratic capitalism. This is when it is necessary to fight in such a way that business is not harmed. But you also need to understand what kind of business ...
  45. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 5 November 2022 04: 05
    0
    Another red line will follow, drawn with a green felt-tip pen !!! - Accurately returned to the supply of grain.
  46. Altmann
    Altmann 5 November 2022 15: 07
    0
    I'm confused. The Black Sea is the sea of ​​Russia, and so far the Russian Navy is losing the war. Where is the mistake. Is it technical or human. However, this seems to be a problem of underestimating the danger. Now it's the Navy's turn to get tough. The US must understand that Russia feels at home in the Black Sea. am
    1. cold wind
      cold wind 5 November 2022 15: 16
      -1
      There are no mistakes, the systemic destruction of the Armed Forces and the military-industrial complex of Russia has been going on for 22 years. Black Sea, Turkish lake. They decide everything now. The Black Sea Fleet cannot leave the bases without the escort of the Turks, otherwise they will be destroyed by Ukrainian missiles.
      The Turkish fleet surpasses the Black Sea Fleet by 10-15 times and is comparable to our entire fleet. That's all the reasons for what is happening.
  47. magnum 1907
    magnum 1907 7 November 2022 15: 26
    0
    To smash all the ports of Odessa and Ochakov to the fucking hell. And ships will not be able to ship both grain and weapons. And the whole deal will fall away on its own.