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Published footage of the whole and unharmed frigate "Admiral Makarov", allegedly destroyed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the attack of drones

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Published footage of the whole and unharmed frigate "Admiral Makarov", allegedly destroyed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the attack of drones

Black Sea frigate fleet The Admiral Makarov, allegedly almost destroyed by Ukrainian naval drones during the attack on Sevastopol on Saturday morning, turned out to be completely safe and sound and calmly stands in its parking lot. The footage of the undamaged ship was taken the day after Kyiv's loud statements.


The attack of Ukrainian drones on the ships of the Black Sea Fleet on Saturday, as you know, ended in almost nothing, the minesweeper Ivan Golubets received minor damage, and the bonnet barrier in the South Bay was also damaged. However, Kyiv had to report to its masters about the "successful" attack, so it was announced about "significant damage" to the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet "Admiral Makarov". According to the Ukrainian side, as a result of the attack by Ukrainian drones, both superstructures of the ship were allegedly damaged, radar equipment, fire control systems and communication systems were disabled.

The Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed the damage to the minesweeper, but denied all claims of alleged damage to the frigate, saying that the ship was safe and sound and was in its permanent parking lot. Confirmation of this came the next day, when "Admiral Makarov" was filmed in Sevastopol. Judging by the pictures, there is no damage on it, no repairs are being carried out.

It should be noted that the standard parking of the frigate is not a secret, the ship is clearly visible from many points of the city. The number on the ship has been painted over, since the beginning of the special operation this has been done on all the ships participating in the hostilities, earlier "Admiral Makarov" has repeatedly been photographed and video without numbers. The ship is the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet after the death of the cruiser Moskva.

The frigate "Admiral Makarov" was laid down on February 29, 2012 and launched on September 2, 2015, joined the fleet on December 27, 2017. Named in honor of the Russian naval commander and scientist, Vice Admiral Stepan Osipovich Makarov, it is the second serial ship in a series of patrol ships of project 11356 after the lead Admiral Grigorovich and the first serial Admiral Essen.
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  1. Skipper
    Skipper 1 November 2022 07: 21
    -47
    It's all crap! Che for the photo .. when done. Where is yesterday's video with filming from both sides of the ship ... and better than all three ships of this project. So the issue is not closed.
    1. .ay bolt 66
      .ay bolt 66 1 November 2022 07: 34
      +42
      Show your photo from all sides, video from the proctologist and indicate geolocation
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 1 November 2022 07: 50
        +17
        If ours OFFICIALLY STATED that everything is in order with the ship ... then the fairy tale ends.
        They learned the lessons and kicked the hat for ... in general, everyone understood that it was useless to hide the truth, everything would come out anyway, and the "inattentive" heads would be unscrewed for repeating stupidity again.
    2. Arkady007
      Arkady007 1 November 2022 08: 08
      -14
      There are many questions here. They could, if they prove it, show the other side, which was attacked.
      And then yesterday in there the snow was visible on the ground ..
      1. Petr_Koldunov
        Petr_Koldunov 1 November 2022 08: 18
        +28
        Quote: Arkady007
        They could, if they prove it, show the other side, which was attacked.

        There are so many moles in the Crimea that you can be sure: if the other side was torn apart, then its photos would already be circulating on the net.
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 1 November 2022 09: 10
          -22
          Quote: Peter_Koldunov
          There are so many moles in the Crimea that you can be sure: if the other side was torn apart, then its photos would already be circulating on the net.

          In Crimea only? Oh, is it .... But not in Moskovbad? All are not moles, not liberoids? Isn't that where all the rot and goodwill gestures come from? ? There are so many g on a stick in the capital and St. Petersburg that Sevastopol and Crimea from such a g ... would go under the water .. And your "Muscovites" are all sorts of different cunning Armenians, Russian North Caucasians, Azerbaijanis .. Yes, they will sell their mother for pasties ... a
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 2 November 2022 10: 38
            -1
            Quote: 30 vis
            And your "Muscovites" are all sorts of different cunning Armenians, Russian North Caucasians, Azerbaijanis .. Yes, they will sell their mother for pasties ... and

            I watch the offended "Muscovites" minus furiously ... Tell me, dear, respected offended ones, Where does all the liberoid dregs come from? Personalities such as Abramovich, Chubais, Ksyusha Sobchak, Grudinin, and others are not from the capital city of the city of Hero of Moscow? And all these gagiks, saiids, macaws, fearless shaurmists, chebureks, shish kebabs of Caucasian blood do not live in Moscow? From Moscow ... Then why are you pouting and offended by fair criticism.
            1. Mitrich73
              Mitrich73 2 November 2022 10: 51
              +1
              You, dear, do not know well the biography of the persons you indicated, only one was born in Moscow-Grudinin, the rest came in large numbers.
              1. Xnumx vis
                Xnumx vis 2 November 2022 11: 13
                0
                Quote: Mitrich73
                You, dear, do not know well the biography of the persons you indicated, only one was born in Moscow-Grudinin, the rest came in large numbers.

                Yes, come and go, but they consider themselves Muscovites ... I have relatives in Moscow ... We arrived in Moscow back in 1934 ... Moscow is changing ...
      2. cold wind
        cold wind 1 November 2022 08: 32
        -19
        There is no doubt that the boat sailed unnoticed to the side of the frigate. You can see everything on the video. But there didn't seem to be an explosion, and the ship wasn't damaged. In general, it does not seem that they really wanted to sink ships. If the whole attack had been at night and with a large detachment of forces, the losses would have been real and large. Drone attack staging had the following objectives:
        1. Exploration of Black Sea Fleet capabilities
        2. Warning
        3. Provoke an exit from the grain deal
        1. faiver
          faiver 1 November 2022 09: 03
          +14
          There is no doubt that the boat sailed unnoticed to the side of the frigate
          - but I have, night shooting, the quality is so-so, I fully admit computer graphics ....
        2. Negro
          Negro 1 November 2022 09: 37
          +3
          Quote from cold wind
          3. Provoke an exit from the grain deal

          This is already some kind of meme, about "we were provoked." She wore a miniskirt, yes.

          If you don't want to be provoked, don't be provoked. No one would have remembered about the grain deal in connection with some kind of smoke in Sevastopol. These are unrelated events.

          As a result, the next boo-boo-boo received a natural answer "come on, take a chance." Erdogan is not Biden for you. He also knows something about the rules of the gateway.
        3. Serg65
          Serg65 1 November 2022 11: 05
          +9
          Quote from cold wind
          There is no doubt that the boat sailed unnoticed to the side of the frigate

          The most interesting thing is how this boat caught up with its goal? The frigate, judging by the video, gave at least 20 knots ..... and what kind of place is this frigate with a 20-knot lane? Could you tell? Isn't it in a computer program?
        4. Bingo
          Bingo 1 November 2022 11: 30
          +15
          Quote from cold wind
          There is no doubt that the boat sailed unnoticed to the side of the frigate.

          But nothing that in the video of the frigate (!!!) standing on a barrel in the port - a breaker in the nose ?!

          There is no doubt that the Disney studio went bankrupt - the second joint in a row after the three-meter Zelebobik next to Geranium
          1. Voronezh
            Voronezh 1 November 2022 14: 04
            +2
            So the generation of tiktakers is everywhere and they don’t have to understand. The main thing is that the bubbles go.
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 1 November 2022 16: 34
            +1
            And from what does it follow that the video was filmed in the port and the ship is on a barrel?
            1. Bingo
              Bingo 1 November 2022 16: 43
              +2
              From the statements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine about the attack and satellite images of the frigate
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 1 November 2022 17: 51
                +1
                And what about the pictures? There is no frigate at the berth on the first port before the incident, on the second there is. Where does the conclusion about the attack of the frigate in the database come from? In my opinion, on the contrary, a possible argument for the fact that they attacked at sea and not at the base.
          3. Charik
            Charik 1 November 2022 17: 38
            -3
            what a three-meter zelya? 170cm on TV today they said it stands with a half UAV with a wingspan of 3m, half a UAV does not mean 1,5 meters or do you think that they don’t shoot down a UAV there? As if they don’t have the opportunity to take a downed UAV and bring it back -and mumbling in front of the camera
            1. Bingo
              Bingo 1 November 2022 17: 45
              +3
              Look at the photo, how he is half there
              1. Charik
                Charik 1 November 2022 17: 51
                -1
                yes, I saw it on TV today, in the morning, the ANTIFAKE program or whatever it is, the floor of the UAV is lying next to the greenfinch, my personal opinion, you can not argue, I saw a video where it was filmed somewhere hidden and then you can insert it wherever you want ( lol )-type hologram or whatever.
        5. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 2 November 2022 10: 10
          0
          Quote from cold wind
          There is no doubt that the boat sailed unnoticed to the side of the frigate. You can see everything on the video. But there didn't seem to be an explosion, and the ship wasn't damaged. In general, it does not seem that they really wanted to sink ships. If the whole attack had been at night and with a large detachment of forces, the losses would have been real and large. Drone attack staging had the following objectives:
          1. Exploration of Black Sea Fleet capabilities
          2. Warning
          3. Provoke an exit from the grain deal

          I don’t see the point in the warning. The second time will not be unexpected. It’s like, for example, if the Japanese attacked in a roar and 41g with small forces.
      3. Serg65
        Serg65 1 November 2022 11: 00
        +5
        crying Oh, what a zrada ... and already they filled up the boar, and the vodka caught up recourse damned orcs ruined the whole holiday... am
      4. Voronezh
        Voronezh 1 November 2022 14: 01
        0
        [/ quote] in there snow was visible on the ground. [quote]

        "In there" is where?
        1. Arkady007
          Arkady007 1 November 2022 19: 23
          +4
          I have a son in Sevastopol. And he sent a photo with the first snow in the morning. Writes that he woke up from a roar. That's the whole logic.
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 2 November 2022 11: 12
            0
            Quote: Arkady007
            I have a son in Sevastopol. And he sent a photo with the first snow in the morning. Writes that he woke up from a roar. That's the whole logic.

            We also had snow in the NORTH yesterday at night, but by 12 o'clock there were no traces of it left, and even more so in the Crimea.
      5. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 1 November 2022 17: 27
        0
        We somehow woke up in Yekaterinburg in September - the snow is not sickly (this year), so the next day - not a trace, and then there were still days when it reached +20. Snow is not an indicator
      6. Cottodraton
        Cottodraton 2 November 2022 10: 46
        +1
        And why haven't the "well-wishers" taken a picture yet?
    3. Fantazer911
      Fantazer911 1 November 2022 08: 29
      +12
      Skipper: you know, just like everyone else, mentally they, Ukrofascists, Fashington, small-shaven and ostle mongrels are waiting for the defeat of Russia by the hands of the Ze & Co regime, but mentally I also sank the NATO fleet, with one blow, it’s a pity that mentally, in reality, I would not mentally drown, and but also strait them. Stalin did, the more they spoil us, the more hatred I have for gay Europe, the USA, and the Englishwoman who spoils!
      The only thing I regret at the moment is that agent Liz Truss didn’t finish, didn’t destroy the country, with her policy, and didn’t throw the country into chaos! hi
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 1 November 2022 09: 50
        +17
        The only thing I regret at the moment is that agent Liz Truss didn’t finish, didn’t destroy the country, with her policy, and didn’t throw the country into chaos!

        Don't worry, there's a change...
    4. fiv
      fiv 1 November 2022 08: 59
      +11
      If this is very important for you, go to Sevastopol and inspect everything personally and tell us and show us. If not, then don't drive, don't throw a tantrum, and use the public information as you see fit.
      1. Gpn27
        Gpn27 1 November 2022 09: 09
        +19
        I don’t have to go anywhere, I live in Sevastopol and walk my dog ​​in the park overlooking the South Bay. No snow, or sinking of ships is not visible. Everything is in order, if Makarov was damaged, then this is in no way noticeable.
        1. fiv
          fiv 1 November 2022 09: 24
          +10
          It's always good to get an eyewitness's opinion, thank you! It wasn't Makarov who got hurt, it was Skipper.
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 1 November 2022 16: 36
          0
          If the photo is today, then both frigates are at least afloat and look intact, and if something is wrong from the other side, then this is something insignificant. And that's good and reassuring.

          They also say that barriers were deployed in the harbor.
    5. Lako
      Lako 1 November 2022 10: 59
      +3
      Listen, skipper. You're on your leaky barge home port-Kyiv, paint over. Here, it causes seasickness, with vomit.
    6. the most important
      the most important 1 November 2022 22: 39
      0
      Quote: Skipper
      It's all crap!

      That's for sure. Publications that were completely unverified began to appear on VO. Konashenko has already admitted that three ships were damaged, including the frigate. He said repairs would take up to two months. Something seems to me that it’s a little longer .... It’s a pity, of course, that conclusions were not drawn after the loss of Moscow ....
    7. brr1
      brr1 2 November 2022 05: 16
      0
      A clipper is floating on the river, a skipper is on the clipper, the skipper has a gonorrhea
    8. Piramidon
      Piramidon 2 November 2022 11: 07
      0
      Quote: Skipper
      It's all crap!

      Oh, how categorical. Can you confirm your statement yourself? Or, if only to throw a pile of your manure?
  2. dnestr74
    dnestr74 1 November 2022 07: 23
    +2
    they write from Sevastopol, something was slightly damaged on Makarov, but not critical
    1. insafufa
      insafufa 1 November 2022 07: 39
      +10
      They say that the drones did not reach Makarov, they worked out the AK 630 with a cougar with a bang.
      1. Sandor Clegane
        Sandor Clegane 1 November 2022 07: 50
        -13
        Quote: insafufa
        They say,

        who and where?
        1. konstantin68
          konstantin68 1 November 2022 08: 35
          +12
          Quote: Sandor Clegane
          who and where?

          I say is enough? I can send you a photo right now. But probably, such as you it is useless. If you were in the City, you should know where the ships are and you can take a photo from different places. As it was correctly noted, we have so many "moles" that everything would have been done if you were successful. So... by the cash register today! No problem, go get ready!
          1. Sandor Clegane
            Sandor Clegane 1 November 2022 09: 21
            -7
            Quote: konstantin68
            I say is enough?

            no
            Quote: konstantin68
            But probably, such as you it is useless.

            belay

            Quote: konstantin68
            As it was rightly noted, we have so many "moles" that everything would be in case of your success

            are you friends with your head? - I asked who is speaking! people claimed they were talking!!!
            I'm wondering who's talking and where you can watch it!!
            You can distribute all Svidomo for seedlings to your brothers from 404
          2. Serg65
            Serg65 1 November 2022 11: 17
            +8
            Quote: konstantin68
            we have so many "moles"

            That everyone is obsessed with moles? Opposite berth 12 is the Institute of Nuclear Energy, and the institute is full of students and everyone has a mobile phone with a camera and who can forbid a student to shoot a burning ship !!!
    2. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 1 November 2022 07: 50
      +6
      Quote: dnestr74
      they write from Sevastopol, something was slightly damaged on Makarov, but not critical

      This is good news, now the faces of the Sumerians will warp good
      1. 4ekist
        4ekist 1 November 2022 09: 48
        +4
        41 REGION This is good news, now the faces of the Sumerians are distorted

        I hope the missile attack on the energy facilities of the outskirts was just a prelude to the real strike. So that not only their faces are distorted.
  3. Uprun
    Uprun 1 November 2022 07: 31
    +1
    As usual, everything according to Shakespeare is a lot of ado about nothing............., but they asked for a hooligan....
  4. Tagan
    Tagan 1 November 2022 07: 37
    +11
    Quote: Skipper
    It's all crap! Che for the photo .. when done. Where is yesterday's video with filming from both sides of the ship ... and better than all three ships of this project. So the issue is not closed.

    Who owes what and to whom? Well, take what you want. Start saying Photoshop or something like that. Believe in what you like.))
  5. Sandor Clegane
    Sandor Clegane 1 November 2022 07: 40
    +1
    experience in combating maritime drones is invaluable, I am sure the conclusions and countermeasures have already been taken
    Black Sea Fleet continues SVO
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 1 November 2022 07: 50
      +2
      The day before the attack by drones on the base, a meeting was held between the city administration and the commander of the Black Sea Fleet on anti-sabotage measures in Sevastopol .. You think by accident.
      1. Sandor Clegane
        Sandor Clegane 1 November 2022 07: 57
        +3
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Think random.

        to think - you need to have all the information, I do not have it
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 1 November 2022 08: 17
          0
          Me too, but there was a meeting. I'm interested in why Sevastopol is not ZATO, at least for the time of the NWO.
          1. Sandor Clegane
            Sandor Clegane 1 November 2022 08: 20
            +2
            Quote: tralflot1832
            Me too, but the meeting was

            if you were not there, then you cannot know the topics that were discussed, and the rest is the OBS, although I am also interested in why not ZATO ???
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 2 November 2022 12: 43
            0
            The subject of the federation, namely the city of federal significance, cannot be, by definition, a ZATO.
      2. Glory1974
        Glory1974 1 November 2022 08: 41
        -3
        The day before the base was attacked by drones, a meeting was held between the city administration and the commander of the Black Sea Fleet on anti-sabotage measures in Sevastopol

        I think that such an event should have been held in the last days of February, at least. The meeting was late for the 8th month of the NWO.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 1 November 2022 08: 58
          +5
          Was there a boom barrier? Was it! There was an explosion. So the Black Sea Fleet worked fine. Drive further feces through the pipes.
          1. Glory1974
            Glory1974 1 November 2022 09: 10
            -12
            there was no boom at the entrance to the bay. The drone of the ship shoots almost point-blank. A drone entering the bay detects
            modern equipment in the form of the eyes of a sailor on duty. Was there an undermining? There was a very powerful explosion on the video. The paint was scratched on the minesweeper.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 1 November 2022 11: 23
              +2
              Quote: glory1974
              there was no boom at the entrance to the bay

              Where did it go, did you hand it over for metal ??
              Quote: glory1974
              The drone takes off the ship almost point-blank.

              What ship and most importantly where does he shoot it?
              Quote: glory1974
              Was there a breakdown? There was a very powerful explosion on the video

              And what do you think it exploded? Where exactly did it explode?
              Quote: glory1974
              Shout further.

              Zrada ... crying didn't work out, but don't despair...maybe next time, huh?
              1. Glory1974
                Glory1974 1 November 2022 12: 51
                -9
                The entrance to the bay is not closed with boom barriers! It is a fact. The parking lots of ships are closed. Therefore, drones entered the bay freely, as many as 3 pieces. And they all exploded. It was lucky that they could not come close to the ships.
                according to eyewitnesses, 3 ships were damaged. And this is very bad.
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 1 November 2022 14: 36
                  +1
                  Quote: glory1974
                  The entrance to the bay is not closed with boom barriers!

                  laughing Well, the flag is in your hands!
                  Slava, have you ever been to Sevastopol? Well, at least in the photo you saw the Konstantinovsky ravelin?
                  belay
                  Quote: glory1974
                  And everyone exploded.

                  belay And the house on Kurina ..... here you eat the Herods !!!
                  Quote: glory1974
                  according to eyewitnesses

                  Who are these? Please name the characters! But how!
      3. 4ekist
        4ekist 1 November 2022 09: 52
        +1
        tralflot1832 The day before the base was attacked by drones, a meeting was held....

        Now such meetings and trainings are held almost every day, even in healthcare institutions and retail chains.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 1 November 2022 10: 05
          0
          Is the commander of the Black Sea Fleet present at all? bully
          1. 4ekist
            4ekist 1 November 2022 12: 02
            0
            The headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet is located in Sevastopol and the commander and the governor are present at all significant meetings of the city. It is not necessary for him to travel to Bryansk, Kyzyl or Turukhansk.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 1 November 2022 12: 08
              0
              It seems an article about the base of the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol. bully
      4. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 2 November 2022 10: 16
        0
        Quote: tralflot1832
        The day before the attack by drones on the base, a meeting was held between the city administration and the commander of the Black Sea Fleet on anti-sabotage measures in Sevastopol .. You think by accident.

        It was such a drone that washed ashore a month ago
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 November 2022 07: 44
    +15
    turned out to be quite safe and sound and calmly stands in the place of his parking lot
    And what happened yesterday from those who are guided by Ukrainian sources - the frigate is on fire, the curses of the Black Sea Fleet and the command ... Maybe you should not rush to make assessments based only on information from the enemy?
    1. pm4
      pm4 1 November 2022 07: 48
      +8
      So not only the Ukrainians, the military correspondents tried their best there.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 1 November 2022 07: 46
    0
    Published footage of the whole and unharmed frigate "Admiral Makarov", allegedly destroyed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the attack of drones
    Unfortunately, it has already happened, there have been losses ... you need to do your "work" more carefully, to avoid stupid losses.
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 1 November 2022 07: 53
    +2
    The attack of Ukrainian drones on the ships of the Black Sea Fleet, which took place on Saturday, as you know, ended in almost nothing,
    I hope the conclusions will be made in an even more positive direction of the defense of the Black Sea Fleet.
  9. Graz
    Graz 1 November 2022 07: 55
    +6
    but the ships in the photo for the article are in a heap, I'm not an expert, but when waiting for sabotage and attacks, is their placement normal?
    can somehow breed them one by one, unless of course there are parking lots?
    1. novel66
      novel66 1 November 2022 08: 04
      +3
      a sensible idea - to disperse, and, if possible, hide in hangars
      1. konstantin68
        konstantin68 1 November 2022 08: 38
        +2
        Quote: novel xnumx
        disperse, and, if possible, hide in hangars

        It is technically difficult to do, and there are no such hangars. Booms against surface / underwater drones and air defense against air attacks. Plus regular activities for PDSS.
      2. Serg65
        Serg65 1 November 2022 11: 27
        +4
        Quote: novel xnumx
        if possible, hide in hangars

        Will the tents come down? 10-seater, good, new??
        1. novel66
          novel66 1 November 2022 12: 39
          +2
          Also offer beach umbrellas. fucking puffin lol
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 1 November 2022 14: 38
            +5
            No, umbrellas are only for airplanes ... you don’t need to push your aviation property to the naval ones, damn cormorant wink tongue
    2. art having
      art having 1 November 2022 08: 22
      -3
      100% must be dispersed! Campaign, our military leadership, the experience of an explosion at an airfield does not teach anything ..
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 1 November 2022 11: 30
        +4
        Quote from Snay
        100% must be dispersed!

        And where to concentrate? Sevastopol. it's not rubber!
        Quote from Snay
        Campaign our military leadership

        what Campaign new Ushakov appeared?
        soldier I wish you good health, Fedor Fedorovich!!!
        1. Voronezh
          Voronezh 1 November 2022 14: 18
          0
          [/ quote] And where to disperse? Sevastopol. it's not rubber! [quote]

          In such a case, there are special plans for the dispersal of forces and means. And where and how it is known and SHOULD be performed by certain people in certain positions. And if this is not done, then these plans are fiction. This means that in places of dispersal it is impossible to provide security, supplies, etc. With this parking option, one point is enough to drown one ship and at least damage one or two nearby ones. This has already been done with the BDK in Berdyansk. But everyone obviously has their own rake
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 1 November 2022 14: 28
            +1
            Quote from Voronezh
            In such a case, there are special plans for the dispersal of forces and means.

            Special dispersal plans exist only in case of a nuclear threat! There are no other cases! In the base, it is easier and more convenient to protect ships from both air and surface danger.
            !
            Quote from Voronezh
            This has already been done with the BDK in Berdyansk

            since when did Berdyansk become a naval base? Don't be bullshit!
            Quote from Voronezh
            But everyone obviously has their own rake

            Yes, yes, so I’m watching how you have been constantly stepping on the same rake since the age of 12!
            1. Voronezh
              Voronezh 1 November 2022 14: 43
              +1
              1 About the fact that Berdyansk Naval Base was out of the question.
              2 About 12 years old, you definitely confuse me with someone. In 12,13,14,15,16 ...... years I was not here.
              3 About the dispersal plan ..... judging by your statements, there is no corresponding education. And don't be rude, if not from Khokhlostan, of course, for those it's normal
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 1 November 2022 15: 02
                +1
                Quote from Voronezh
                About the fact that Berdyansk Naval Base was out of the question.

                Then why did you drag a civilian port here, located in the zone of responsibility of the army?
                Quote from Voronezh
                12,13,14,15,16 ...... years I was not here.

                Actually, this is a hint at Bolotnaya, and not at VO!
                Quote from Voronezh
                Judging by your statements, there is no corresponding education

                Don't judge without knowing!
                Quote from Voronezh
                And don't be rude, if not from Khokhlostan, of course, for those it's normal

                Where have I been rude to you? And why are you so vulnerable?
                1. Voronezh
                  Voronezh 1 November 2022 15: 46
                  +2
                  [/ quote] Then why did you drag a civilian port here, located in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbresponsibility of the army? [quote]

                  So why are you so clueless? It's not about the port or not the port, the mistakes are repeated! There the ships stood close stern to bow, and here side to side. There, one flew in and the second got it, and with the death of HP. Is it clear now?
    3. faiver
      faiver 1 November 2022 09: 10
      +3
      this is a military base of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, the level of security is incomparable with Berdyansk. Having pulled the ships around the water area, you will need to protect each ship separately. This is also an additional risk...
      1. Waterways 672
        Waterways 672 1 November 2022 09: 45
        +2
        The ships are compact also because life support facilities are connected to the mooring places - electricity, water, steam, telephone. This is so that the ships do not spend their resource.
        Previously, in the structure of the naval base, a serious place was occupied by the ships of the OVR - the protection of the water area, which carried patrols on the approaches to the base from the sea. These were small ships - MPK, RTOs, minesweepers. Now we have tension with these ships, in general we have what we have
        .
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 1 November 2022 11: 33
          +4
          Quote: Waterways 672
          Now we have tension with these ships, in general we have what we have

          The drones just ran into the fire tower in the person of Ivan Golubets!
    4. Serg65
      Serg65 1 November 2022 11: 26
      +2
      Quote: Graz
      can somehow breed them one by one, unless of course there are parking lots?

      This group of berths is the farthest from the entrance to the bay and the most convenient for an emergency exit to the sea.
  10. Maxim Sergeevich
    Maxim Sergeevich 1 November 2022 08: 21
    -3
    Good. Costs. Beautiful. But is it really the function of the fleet to stand at the pier? Shouldn't the fleet perform functions such as blocking, attacking, landing, and others?
    1. konstantin68
      konstantin68 1 November 2022 08: 31
      +4
      Quote: Maxim Sergeevich
      But is it really the function of the fleet to stand at the pier?

      Imagine sometimes standing at the pier. Here you sometimes sleep, eat, send natural needs, etc., and not only write, write .... So are steamboats.
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 1 November 2022 11: 38
      +4
      Quote: Maxim Sergeevich
      But is it really the function of the fleet to stand at the pier?

      Do they have bottomless rocket cellars, or do you see barges with a solarium and water tied with a rope to their stern somewhere next to them ??? I shot back, stocked up, went out, shooting ... although why am I throwing beads in front of you? Let's better discuss how 2 days ago the heroic Ukrainian specialists drowned the Russian frigate Admiral Makarov ... let's? bully
  11. Glory1974
    Glory1974 1 November 2022 08: 40
    -7
    In general, from the outside it is somehow strange to see the troops in a relaxed state. It seems that the commanders are guided by television messages: they said that the NVO is coming, so let it go.
    And where is the enhanced mode of service? Where are the reinforced patrols and guards? Where is the restriction of access to military facilities?
    Either the entrance to the bay is not closed by a boom, then the helicopters at the airfield are not guarded, then the planes are not dispersed. Apart from swear words, I can’t say anything. combat zone, namely for the enhanced protection of military facilities.
    1. faiver
      faiver 1 November 2022 09: 13
      +3
      do you determine the relaxation of the troops from the photograph? in which battle of psychics did you participate?
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 1 November 2022 11: 41
        +4
        Quote: faiver
        in which battle of psychics did you participate?

        in the 1366th, 6th from the right in the 66th row ...
      2. Glory1974
        Glory1974 1 November 2022 12: 47
        0
        Imagine, you can draw a conclusion from the photo. And from the video too.
        For example, the absence of a boom at the entrance to the bay. Why was it not there? But it should be!
        And to say why it was not, or guess yourself?
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 1 November 2022 14: 44
          +2
          Quote: glory1974
          For example, the lack of a boom at the entrance to the bay. Why was it not there?

          glory, you, like a true Ukrainian, are stubborn to no .... what who told you this nonsense?
          Quote: glory1974
          And to say why it was not, or guess yourself?

          Wait a minute .... come on, but it can't be ... sho, really stolen? From the encore kid, don't you bachish, glory? wassat crying
      3. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 2 November 2022 10: 22
        +1
        Quote: faiver
        do you determine the relaxation of the troops from the photograph? in which battle of psychics did you participate?

        For example, I determine the relaxation of the troops by reports of sabotage. Recently, 3 helicopters were blown up at the airfield. 3 helicopters, Karl, were unguarded!
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 1 November 2022 11: 40
      0
      Quote: glory1974
      Just from the side

      crying Yes, calm down you already glory! Everyone came ... you flew this time like plywood ... over Sevastopol! wink laughing
      1. Glory1974
        Glory1974 1 November 2022 12: 48
        -1
        Sergey, it was so rosy, the soul would not hurt.
        Sevastopol residents write that three ships were damaged. Is everything okay with you? Didn't skip anywhere?
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 1 November 2022 14: 49
          +1
          Quote: glory1974
          my soul wouldn't hurt.

          Your soul hurts for another reason!
          Quote: glory1974
          Sevastopol residents write

          All the daughters of officers write to you personally, but you are straight Casanova ... oh, rascal! laughing
          Quote: glory1974
          Are you all right?

          From the first Ukrainian video frames, it became normal for me ... done by suckers for suckers!
          Quote: glory1974
          Didn't skip a beat?

          You know, glory, I wear pants, not a skirt! The old soldier does not know the words about love, that's why I have nothing to fuck!
  12. faiver
    faiver 1 November 2022 09: 14
    0
    Tsel Makarov... Well, well. So some measures after the death of the ships were taken and have a positive effect ....
  13. Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 1 November 2022 11: 35
    0
    Everyone thought what kind of starlink antenna on the sea ba Maritime just they have for yachts, boats and ships
  14. art266
    art266 1 November 2022 11: 40
    0
    From what it is clear that this is exactly "Makarov"? There are three of them identical with shaded names and numbers.
    And why did they decide that it was Makarov who was attacked?
    1. next322
      next322 1 November 2022 14: 18
      +1
      not 3 but only 2 ...... Admiral Grigorovich since last year in the Mediterranean
      1. art266
        art266 2 November 2022 10: 27
        0
        Then it's clear. Both are visible in the photo.
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 1 November 2022 14: 52
      +3
      Quote: art266
      And why did they decide that it was Makarov who was attacked?

      Because the Ukrainians have a fad on Makarov, they have let him go to the bottom for the third time, and he again emerges ... some kind of unsinkable !!!
  15. VladimirNET
    VladimirNET 1 November 2022 12: 29
    +1
    Quote: Skipper
    Where is yesterday's video with shooting from both sides of the ship ...

    Yes, in that video - an underwater drone "allegedly" hit the opposite side. But it cannot be ruled out that he did not swim to the side of the ship: they sank earlier.
  16. VladimirNET
    VladimirNET 1 November 2022 12: 43
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: novel xnumx
    disperse, and, if possible, hide in hangars

    It is technically difficult to do, and there are no such hangars.

    As under Peter - "roll" on land? )))
    In general - even in "movies about the war" - ships were covered with a net (including under water).
    1. Albert Brecht
      Albert Brecht 1 November 2022 13: 38
      -3
      It is extremely unpleasant and even painful - the second ship ... It remains only to hope that the repair will not be delayed ...
    2. Serg65
      Serg65 1 November 2022 14: 57
      +3
      Quote: VladimirNET
      the ships were covered with a net (including under water).

      It’s useless from the top, the satellite will tell you everything about you, but from below ... The Sevastopol raid is closed from the evening Dawn to the morning Dawn with a boom barrier + at the entrance around the clock the fireman is on duty ... yes, in peacetime!
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 2 November 2022 10: 28
        0
        Quote: Serg65
        Quote: VladimirNET
        the ships were covered with a net (including under water).

        It’s useless from the top, the satellite will tell you everything about you, but from below ... The Sevastopol raid is closed from the evening Dawn to the morning Dawn with a boom barrier + at the entrance around the clock the fireman is on duty ... yes, in peacetime!

        Well, in general, there were cases of submarine penetration into the harbor under the keel of passing ships, or nearby. You can recall Novorossiysk, for example, or Prina, or the Italian attack in Alexandria
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 2 November 2022 10: 45
          +2
          Quote: Pilat2009
          Well, in general, there were cases of submarine penetration into the harbor under the keel of passing ships, or nearby

          These are the feats of bygone years! The MGK-608 hydroacoustic complex and the VG-5 Rationality complex simply leave no chance for new "heroes".
  17. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 1 November 2022 13: 25
    +1
    There is not one iota of trust in the shrill Ukrainian publics! In April, they "drowned" Admiral Essen in the same way. Reliably, reasoned, with "confirmations of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine" ...
    1. Mad_Max
      Mad_Max 2 November 2022 19: 35
      0
      The original source then were the Turks. Ukrainian publics, of course, happily picked it up and took it away, but they didn’t blind this fake (or what was it at all?) And launched it.
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  19. VladimirNET
    VladimirNET 1 November 2022 15: 53
    -1
    Quote: Serg65
    Quote: VladimirNET
    the ships were covered with a net (including under water).
    It's useless from the top, the satellite will tell you everything about you

    a human saboteur (or robot) - will calmly "climb / swim" over any boom, and it is technically possible - even to fly over it by hitting (on the ship) - just from above, I don’t think it’s technically difficult.
    But to quickly cut a thick mesh - it will not work.
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 2 November 2022 10: 47
      +3
      Quote: VladimirNET
      human saboteur (or robot)

      My friend, these comrades must be delivered to the bonds on something else, and this is the weakest link in this chain!
  20. silviu
    silviu 1 November 2022 16: 40
    0
    If the Kremlin wants to end up without the Black Sea and its own navy on it, then it must listen to its Western partners and restart this “important humanitarian initiative that clearly has a positive impact on access to food for millions of people around the world” . If for Vladimir Putin the national interests of Russia are a priority, the "grain deal" should be terminated after the final and irrevocable withdrawal of Russia from it, and the Nikolaev-Odessa liberation operation should become the next step.
    1. Mad_Max
      Mad_Max 2 November 2022 19: 52
      0
      Already "listened" and a day has not passed ...
  21. km-21
    km-21 1 November 2022 18: 16
    0
    The fact that the ship was not damaged is remarkable. But you can't relax. It is clear that the problem with enemy drones has not been radically resolved. Therefore, the next attack (and it will certainly be in one form or another) may end for us much worse than the current one. It is quite possible that this was reconnaissance in combat, which revealed the vulnerabilities of the Black Sea Fleet, and Kyiv and its Anglo-Saxon handlers proved to be a well-equipped and stubborn enemy.

    The backbone of drone warfare is Elon Musk's broadband internet (or Oneweb for the British). Therefore, the most pressing task for the Russian Armed Forces is to suppress the broadband space communications of the enemy. It is necessary either to reliably jam radio communications, or to disable the orbital equipment (and the latter is preferable). If this problem is not solved, then in the future we will have a lot of trouble.
  22. katarsafebox.com
    katarsafebox.com 1 November 2022 18: 18
    +1
    Yes, they have already drowned the entire Black Sea Fleet several times and rolled the baby around Moscow on the Abrams ...
  23. Sergei N 58912062
    Sergei N 58912062 1 November 2022 22: 08
    0
    It is necessary to send a huge bouquet of Geraniums to the Khokhols in response! And not just one bouquet...

  24. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 1 November 2022 22: 11
    -1
    The attack was on the other side….. the fire was shown….
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 2 November 2022 10: 48
      +2
      Quote: Zaurbek
      the fire was shown

      Can you show me again?
  25. certero
    certero 1 November 2022 23: 49
    0
    Quote: Sandor Clegane
    experience in combating maritime drones is invaluable, I am sure the conclusions and countermeasures have already been taken
    Black Sea Fleet continues SVO

    The loud name of a marine drone means just a hefty boat going at a low speed.
    Now imagine that it would be a salvo of torpedoes. Or cruise missiles. Let's face it, not a single boat of this kind, with the normal organization of combat guards, has any chance to swim to the ship
  26. VladimirNET
    VladimirNET 3 November 2022 01: 19
    0
    Quote: Serg65
    My friend, these comrades must be delivered to the bonds on something else, and this is the weakest link in this chain!

    You are right, I did not think about distances ...
    About "ships in the grid" (with details) - taken from the series "Black Sea" (episode 1: c 36:11), who missed this series - I recommend it!
    By the way, with delivery there it was "everything is simple" => from the shore.
  27. APE
    APE 3 November 2022 21: 33
    0
    Yesterday Sanya from Florida showed satellite images showing that one corvette is moored to the starboard side of the pier: if not for a couple of days, as usual when refueling / loading, but longer, there is a possibility that this is the Makarov and it is being restored .
    And there was also a post by a photographer claiming that the kamikaze boat had a narrow-angle camera with a strong zoom, which leaves hope that there was a lot of time left to destroy the drone since the shooting stopped.