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Russian missiles today caused damage to the enemy hundreds of times greater than their cost

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Russian missiles today caused damage to the enemy hundreds of times greater than their cost

Western economists are commenting on the situation in Ukraine after another series of attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure facilities. In particular, it is noted that the actions of the Russian troops are aimed at casting doubt on any military and financial assistance to the Ukrainian authorities.


According to the Ukrainian prime minister, from the morning until now (13:20 Moscow time), 18 objects have been hit in 10 regions.

It was noted that today again strikes were made on large energy facilities in Ukraine, including the distribution substation of the Dniester hydroelectric power station, generation facilities at the Dnipro hydroelectric power station. These are the largest hydroelectric power plants in Ukraine, which provide electricity not only to hundreds of thousands of households, but also to hundreds of large industrial enterprises.

Today, a situation has manifested itself when the missiles of the RF Armed Forces inflicted damage on the enemy hundreds of times higher than their cost. This led to the fact that, purely mathematically, the process can cause the emergence of a total "funnel" for the Ukrainian economy. For example, the decommissioning of generating facilities with a capacity of more than 700 MW leads to the need for an emergency restoration of this infrastructure in order to “put out the economic fire”. But this requires huge funds on the scale of such a territory, which is under the control of the Kyiv regime. We are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars that must be spent in a short time to restore the entire energy supply system. If this is not done before the onset of winter, then the damage to the economy can turn into a geometric progression.

The Kyiv regime is requesting additional funding from Europe and the United States. But the whole problem is that even if the financing in the required volumes ($17 billion) is implemented, then the work of 700-megawatt capacities cannot be restored overnight with dollars. We need thousands of specialists, hundreds of tons of materials, advanced logistics for their delivery, tight deadlines.

That is why Western economists doubt that the fall of the Ukrainian economy against the backdrop of the events of recent weeks can be slowed down, and the process itself can somehow be turned in favor of Kyiv. Accordingly, there are growing doubts about how effective the military assistance provided to the Zelensky regime is. However, while Western governments are not going to refuse to provide this assistance.
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  1. Woodman
    Woodman 31 October 2022 13: 29
    +70
    It was noted that today again strikes were made on large energy facilities in Ukraine, including the distribution substation of the Dniester hydroelectric power station, generation facilities at the Dnipro hydroelectric power station. These are the largest hydroelectric power plants in Ukraine, which provide electricity not only to hundreds of thousands of households,
    That's what I look at today under the articles there are almost no comments ...
    1. neworange88
      neworange88 31 October 2022 13: 37
      +14
      News from Vitalik.Video at the link below.

      Kyiv without electricity and water: Klitschko urged citizens to stock up on water from nearby pump-rooms and points of sale

      Kyiv Mayor Vitaliy Klitschko said live that 80% of the capital was left without water and most of the city without electricity. He stated that these are the consequences of missile strikes on objects in the region.


      https://t.me/rusvesnasu/23031
      1. Goha
        Goha 31 October 2022 14: 30
        +12
        If there is no water, how to poop? In the hallway or in the attic? Around the house ? The smell and wind towards the geyropa.
        1. Alex Nevs
          Alex Nevs 31 October 2022 15: 10
          +10
          Packages. A long T-shirt or shirt (this is when there is no paper). You can not tie it. Open window.
        2. Novic2U
          Novic2U 1 November 2022 09: 51
          +4
          Now, those who were laughed at, the toilet is in the yard, they laugh at those who have toilets.
    2. Myths
      Myths 31 October 2022 13: 38
      +40
      And there are no downsides either. In this state, and further it is necessary to keep their energy systems. They themselves began to arrange terror on peaceful objects of "legitimate purposes" and so they endured for a very long time and did not touch anything, hoping naively that it would come, at least a little.
      1. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 31 October 2022 13: 52
        +19
        Quote from Mitos
        And there are no downsides either. In this state, and further it is necessary to keep their energy systems. They themselves began to arrange terror on peaceful objects of "legitimate purposes" and so they endured for a very long time and did not touch anything, hoping naively that it would come, at least a little.

        Russia does not hit civilian targets. Energy infrastructure is considered dual-use. Both civilian and military, therefore, according to all international norms and rules, they are considered legitimate targets, as is transport infrastructure.
        But the Armed Forces of Ukraine are just hitting purely civilian objects, schools, hospitals, and so on.
        1. Smoker
          Smoker 31 October 2022 13: 59
          +35
          It is a pity that not everyone in Russia realized that there was a war going on, even the military were relaxed:

          Two Russian reconnaissance and attack helicopters Ka-52 were damaged in explosions at the military airfield in the Pskov region
          It is noted that the explosion occurred on the evening of October 30 on the territory of a helipad in the Ostrovsky district. According to the interlocutor of the publication, there were three explosions in total.
          Helicopters at that time were at the airport for repairs.

          Law enforcement officers are currently at the scene.
          It is not yet known what could have led to the detonation. There were also no comments from the authorities. According to the Telegram channel Baza, helicopters were on the territory of the airfield, which is located near the Russian-Latvian border.

          “At about 22 pm, the servicemen of the unit heard several explosions, and then saw the scattered wreckage of two helicopters. The explosion was so strong that the fragments of the fuselage were scattered 200 meters around,” the report says.

          Draw a conclusion, gentlemen! The war will be from the Black Sea to the Baltic ... Let everyone in Murmansk, Arkhangelsk be brought to full combat readiness !!! Isn't it clear?
          1. aars
            aars 31 October 2022 14: 01
            +8
            Get fucked up!
            During the repair, they were clearly without ammunition ...
            1. Grem1
              Grem1 2 November 2022 01: 02
              0
              Shit it! Who had to blow up the helicopters under repair? What nonsense - "Two Russian Ka-52 reconnaissance and attack helicopters were damaged as a result of explosions," and a little lower, "The explosion was so strong that fragments of the fuselage were scattered 200 meters around," they completely lied!
              1. nickname7
                nickname7 2 November 2022 09: 53
                +1
                Shit it! Who had to blow up the helicopters under repair?

                After repair, you can fight on a helicopter, but not on destroyed ones, that's the point.
          2. GIS
            GIS 31 October 2022 14: 21
            +8
            many still do not understand ... unfortunately
            1. Stepan S
              Stepan S 1 November 2022 20: 17
              0
              many still do not understand ... unfortunately

              You probably lagged behind the information flow, everything is already known to everyone. Except for law enforcement. The video has already been posted by those who arranged all these explosions.
              1. Grancer81
                Grancer81 3 November 2022 07: 07
                0
                At any active military airfield there is a security company that reports to the commander of the air base. Yes, only the commanders and soldiers apparently decided that they were in the rear and it would be possible to relax to the fullest ...
          3. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 31 October 2022 14: 35
            +7
            Quote: Smoker
            It is a pity that not everyone in Russia realized that there was a war going on, even the military was relaxed

            It is a pity that those in power do not want to realize this. And declare a real war. The supply of weapons to a warring country automatically makes the supplier of this practically a participant in the conflict.
            1. Sergey985
              Sergey985 31 October 2022 15: 46
              +2
              Real war cannot be declared. If you pay attention, even the United States always talks about WHO, NVO, etc. when attacking. And this is done for a reason. According to all international laws, a country that declares war on another country is declared a pariah. Then the whole world will take up arms against her on a completely legal basis. Up to a military blockade and direct intervention. And any ally who unleashed a war will also be declared a pariah. What do you think, fighting the whole world alone is very comme il faut? Because we formally and there are no foolish wars, there are no such things to declare. Agree, even the United States does not dare to do this, and even there they like to spit on all international law.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 1 November 2022 09: 19
                +2
                Quote: Sergey985
                Then the whole world will take up arms against her on a completely legal basis.

                And now they are not up in arms? belay
                1. Sergey985
                  Sergey985 2 November 2022 10: 04
                  0
                  If you think that the USA and their gang is the whole world, then this is not entirely true.
              2. nickname7
                nickname7 2 November 2022 09: 59
                +2
                According to all international laws, a country that declares war on another country is declared a pariah.

                This is complete nonsense, if a country is not in a military alliance, you can easily declare war on it, if a country is in NATO, then even WHO will be considered an attack on NATO. It's just that in an official war, all trade with the Criminal Code must be completely blocked, and this is a blow to the profits of the oligarchs.
                1. Sergey985
                  Sergey985 2 November 2022 10: 07
                  0
                  Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. So your reasoning about "complete stupidity" is only and exclusively your own fabrications.
                  1. nickname7
                    nickname7 9 November 2022 15: 32
                    0
                    It is not some international laws that appoint an outcast, but the hegemon appoints an outcast, while the hegemon himself can violate international laws as much as he likes, no one can appoint him an outcast.
                    1. Sergey985
                      Sergey985 9 November 2022 19: 46
                      0
                      Read the UN Charter. Everything is detailed there.
              3. Grancer81
                Grancer81 3 November 2022 07: 10
                +1
                According to what "international laws"?
                1. Sergey985
                  Sergey985 3 November 2022 09: 25
                  0
                  Open the UN charter. It's all very well laid out.
                  1. Grancer81
                    Grancer81 8 November 2022 14: 54
                    0
                    In general, the drain counts ....
                    1. Sergey985
                      Sergey985 9 November 2022 09: 46
                      0
                      What are you merging? And so they argued)
            2. Ka-52
              Ka-52 1 November 2022 06: 02
              +4
              And declare a real war.

              it would be nice if you called for war not from a warm sofa, but from a trench. And preferably from a trench along our front line. Only those who will fight tomorrow have the moral right to demand war.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 1 November 2022 09: 23
                -9
                Quote: Ka-52
                Only those who will fight tomorrow have the moral right to demand war.

                Do Zaputints with logical thinking have a problem? The war has been going on for a long time, tens of thousands of dead, thousands of kilometers of front, cities destroyed, but some continue to bashfully call the NWO war, if only to continue trading with enemy countries.
                1. Ka-52
                  Ka-52 1 November 2022 12: 54
                  +9
                  Do Zaputintsy with logical thinking have a problem?

                  are you trying to hide your cowardice by trying to switch to personal insults?
                  The war has been going on for a long time

                  if the war is going on, then what are you calling for? Maybe then you will first understand your head and put things in order there?
                  but some continue to bashfully call the NWO war

                  So what? There was also a war in Chechnya, it was called KTO, and in the end they put things in order. Despite the squeals of your "democratic" opposition.
                  just to continue trading with enemy countries.

                  Heh) your beloved USA considers Russia an apologist for evil and a military adversary, but even now they maintain a trade balance with the Russian Federation in the amount of at least $150 billion. By the way, they even did it in the 60s, and the height of the Vietnam War, when the army of North Vietnam was 40% armed at the expense of the USSR.
                  I think there are two options in this situation:
                  1. take a purely populist decision (yours) and stop foreign trade with Western countries. And the arrears that arose as a result of the fall in foreign trade turnover should be covered by the reduction of social programs. In this case, we predict a sharp increase in the howling of pseudo-opposition screamers like you: "Crow, the war has deprived us of a piece of bread! Until then, remember!"
                  2. Continue to maintain a trade balance with Western countries, using commodity price inflation as a resource. And ignore the squeals of all the same of your brethren "crow, we trade with enemies!"
                  At some point in this dilemma, the president made a second decision. I would have done the same in his place.
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              2. Grancer81
                Grancer81 3 November 2022 07: 12
                0
                And those who have already lost their loved ones on their own or in the Donbass during this time do not have such a right?
          4. Stepan S
            Stepan S 1 November 2022 20: 15
            0
            It is not yet known what could have led to the detonation.

            Yes, everything is already known. A video has already been posted of how saboteurs mine and undermine helicopters. When will we realize that there is a war going on ..
        2. Alexander Minkin
          Alexander Minkin 31 October 2022 14: 12
          +8
          And how ... how will they poop without water
          1. GIS
            GIS 31 October 2022 14: 21
            +1
            in a T-shirt bag and on the street ... in a container. what did you think?)))
          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 31 October 2022 15: 00
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Minkin
            And how ... how will they poop without water

            Under the bush and under the bridge
          3. Piramidon
            Piramidon 31 October 2022 15: 29
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Minkin
            And how ... how will they poop without water

            Well, let them (Vitalik in particular) have a headache about this. We haven't smelled yet. When they begin to choke in their own shit, maybe the pans will still be removed and they will start thinking.
          4. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 31 October 2022 17: 13
            0
            Quote: Alexander Minkin
            And how ... how will they poop without water

            How, how...how to the top. laughing As usual, a neighbor on the doormat. good
        3. Nemchinov Vl
          Nemchinov Vl 31 October 2022 15: 17
          -39
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          Russia does not hit civilian targets.
          belay Seriously ?!!
          hit on the transformer substation of DneproGES, is this a military facility?!!
          You covered a hundred soldiers there?!! or five of the seven districts (almost a million city) left without light...?!! request

          Quote: Ulan.1812
          Energy infrastructure is considered dual-use objects
          type "ZRK Buk" feeds ...?!! belay
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          therefore, according to all international standards
          there are no such rules (!)....
          there they squealed and ignited the Maidan (!), but they are silent about the discontent in Moldova against Sandu (!) ... Think back now, talking with delight about hitting the energy sector ...?!! ..Will they be delighted with such "ways of salvation" ...?!! when, in fact, it was the "peace" that raked out .. !!!
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          But the Armed Forces of Ukraine are just hitting purely civilian objects, schools, hospitals, and so on.
          Yes in a frenzy of war (!), already all the PARTIES of the conflict are beating - FOR EVERYTHING !!!, which is not healthy ... !!! yes
          and it is absolutely, absolutely - NOT Good!!! winked
          1. Ded60
            Ded60 31 October 2022 15: 39
            +16
            Dear "Nemchinov Vl" oh, oh, oh, what about us for shoooo? So it turns out? DneproGES, this is exactly a military facility. How do electric locomotives carry military equipment? Factories, military equipment without electricity do-repair? Well, etc. And, by the way, are the Kakhovka station, Antonov bridge, Crimean bridge, Zaporozhye nuclear power plant - these are military facilities?
            1. Ulan.1812
              Ulan.1812 31 October 2022 16: 07
              +9
              Quote: Ded60
              Dear "Nemchinov Vl" oh, oh, oh, what about us for shoooo? So it turns out? DneproGES, this is exactly a military facility. How do electric locomotives carry military equipment? Factories, military equipment without electricity do-repair? Well, etc. And, by the way, are the Kakhovka station, Antonov bridge, Crimean bridge, Zaporozhye nuclear power plant - these are military facilities?

              It's useless, he won't understand. He is apparently one of those who believe that Germany and the USSR are equally guilty of unleashing the Second World War.
              1. bayard
                bayard 31 October 2022 20: 06
                +1
                Quote: Ulan.1812
                It's useless, he won't understand.

                In vain you are. You, as a new person here, do not know the members of the forum who, where, what views, age and qualifications. And as you can see, you don’t have any of your relatives on the other side of the front.
                I know where this person is from and what it is like now where he is from. Approximately the same as with us in Donetsk, because the front line is nearby. And the fact that the same civilians, whose release is declared the goal of this SVO, is now (for 8 months) raking, should not please real liberators. In any case, we in the DPR do not jump with delight from such news, we know too well what war is and the life of civilians in the frontline zone.
                And it’s not at all about the fact that now the whole of Ukraine is suffering, but about the fact that, having taken hold of the tug and promised to show something, the Supreme Liberator does not even blow about the solution of that very main issue - Liberation.
                Not only that, after having flown "with a heroic whistle" but a meager outfit of forces, there were only "regroupings" from near Kyiv and from near Kharkov, muddy agreements and "grain deals" ... the very goals of the NWO began to elude the understanding of citizens. And those who were waiting for real liberation now do not understand at all what to expect.
                In the DPR, many of us have friends and relatives on the other side of the front, and we worry about them no less than about our loved ones here in Donetsk.
                And the fact that the SVO has turned from a "quick liberation special operation" into an indefinite execution of civilians on both front lines is inconvenient, unpleasant, but a FACT.
                1. Ulan.1812
                  Ulan.1812 31 October 2022 22: 08
                  +3
                  Quote: bayard
                  Quote: Ulan.1812
                  It's useless, he won't understand.

                  In vain you are. You, as a new person here, do not know the members of the forum who, where, what views, age and qualifications. And as you can see, you don’t have any of your relatives on the other side of the front.
                  I know where this person is from and what it is like now where he is from. Approximately the same as with us in Donetsk, because the front line is nearby. And the fact that the same civilians, whose release is declared the goal of this SVO, is now (for 8 months) raking, should not please real liberators. In any case, we in the DPR do not jump with delight from such news, we know too well what war is and the life of civilians in the frontline zone.
                  And it’s not at all about the fact that now the whole of Ukraine is suffering, but about the fact that, having taken hold of the tug and promised to show something, the Supreme Liberator does not even blow about the solution of that very main issue - Liberation.
                  Not only that, after having flown "with a heroic whistle" but a meager outfit of forces, there were only "regroupings" from near Kyiv and from near Kharkov, muddy agreements and "grain deals" ... the very goals of the NWO began to elude the understanding of citizens. And those who were waiting for real liberation now do not understand at all what to expect.
                  In the DPR, many of us have friends and relatives on the other side of the front, and we worry about them no less than about our loved ones here in Donetsk.
                  And the fact that the SVO has turned from a "quick liberation special operation" into an indefinite execution of civilians on both front lines is inconvenient, unpleasant, but a FACT.

                  I will not comment on everything, I agree with something, I don’t agree with something.
                  Only one remark, the fact that "new" does not mean that you have "old" more rights and you have a cabal here.
                  I'm on V.O. in fact, since the time flags were still placed here from which country the participant was from. I just didn’t participate for a long time and had to start over.
                  And lastly, claims should not be made against me, but Poroshenko, Zelensky and other evil spirits.
                2. nobody75
                  nobody75 1 November 2022 11: 03
                  0
                  Excuse me, but who is to blame? You have now given birth to a post the size of "War and Peace". Where were you in 2017? If you, while on the "ground", wrote that Ukrainians are en masse joining the defense and the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a patriotic cry "What to rob ?!", that they are not very eager for liberation and the "Prague / Russian spring" will not work! You would be listened to. But as a result of your Ukrainian khataskraynichestvo, my strategy of "getting rid of" prevailed. Most of all I like your Ukrainian infantilism! Everyone owes you something! Bandera owes a can like land to a collective farm, and you - the Darkest. You don't want to lift a finger...
                  Sincerely
                  1. bayard
                    bayard 1 November 2022 14: 38
                    0
                    Quote: nobody75
                    You have now given birth to a post the size of "War and Peace".

                    No, Lev Nikolaevich will have more pain.
                    Quote: nobody75
                    Where were you in 2017?

                    In Donesk . Like all these 8 years.
                    Quote: nobody75
                    m, the size of "War and Peace". Where were you in 2017? If you, while on the "ground", wrote that Ukrainians are en masse entering the defense

                    Why should I write about it? The journalists of both sides wiped all their fingers on the keyboard about this.

                    Quote: nobody75
                    Excuse me, but who is to blame?

                    And who in 2014 recognized and was the first to congratulate Poroshenko after the bloody coup? When did the first battles in Slavyansk happen?
                    And who managed to persuade Yanukovych to remove troops from the streets of Kyiv, and then complained that "Obama deceived" him??
                    Nothing there, hiccups?
                    Who all these 8 years (before the NWO) put so much effort into pushing the Donbass back into Ukraine? Through the Minsk agreements?
                    Quote: nobody75
                    not much thirsty for the "Prague / Russian spring" either

                    What do you know about it - Russian Spring? Who buried her? Forgot ?? Who betrayed the Russian people in the Russian lands?
                    No one was ever going to release anyone.
                    Especially the Kremlin. And the NWO was launched through the gigantic "I DON'T WANT". And the troops were FORBIDDEN to remove the flags of the enemy, to disarm (!!!) their territorial defense, to dissolve their administrations, and even .... belay "shoot at the Ukrainian military".
                    Don't remember this already?
                    For 8 years, our military was forbidden to open RETURN fire during the shelling of our positions and cities by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And they were imprisoned for violating such prohibitions.
                    Who banned?
                    Kremlin.
                    And they wanted to shove us back to Ukraine with all their generous hearts.
                    It’s just that in February 2022 there was no other way ... And then, having removed the best and most combat-ready units and subunits of the corps of our republics from their main positions, they were thrown into battles near Kyiv, Kharkov, Kherson and, of course, Mariupol. The "second army of the world", even with the involvement of volunteer units, the National Guard, PMCs and FSB special forces ... managed to gather no more than 100 thousand armed people.
                    Yes, under 60 thousand in the hastily mobilized corps of the republics.
                    Against 350 thousand only in the Armed Forces of Ukraine + their National Guard + border troops + territorial defense + on the same day (24.02.2022) the mobilization started only in Kyiv in a week gives 70 thousand to the Kyiv territorial defense.
                    "The enemy was preparing"?
                    What about Friend? Is your friend ready?
                    Or more and more parades and biathlons?
                    Quote: nobody75
                    Excuse me, but who is to blame?

                    Think.
                    Quote: nobody75
                    as a result of your Ukrainian khataskraynichestvo, my strategy of "getting rid of" prevailed.

                    And where were you with your strategy for 8 years?
                    Why not with us? We have had many volunteers. And not only from Russia - from all over the world. Even from the USA, Latin America and Africa there were (and still are).
                    Quote: nobody75
                    Bandera owes a can like land to a collective farm, and you - the Darkest.

                    He undertook to show something and can not cope. And his kindly general Lapin opens the front for a breakthrough to the enemy time after time. Today Alautdinov told how he, withdrawing his troops from his flank time after time, forced him to stretch his front from 110 km. up to 200 km. Do you think this one is "not guilty"?
                    Quote: nobody75
                    . You don't want to lift a finger...

                    I already hit at one time, now I’m not fit for a drill. But friends fight.
                    And if you defend the clumsy and traitors like that, then think about whose fault the very "grain deal" was concluded, as a result of which military cargoes under the sign "grain export" go to the ports of Odessa without obstacles. Why are there still no strikes on the "decision-making centers" in Kyiv? And why did the Allied Forces fight at a ratio of one to five for 7 months? Why was the size of the group not brought into line with the tasks at hand ... and the regular "small army of Russia" was bled to death in heavy battles? Who so "wisely" led? And was it really "stupidity"?
                    1. fax66
                      fax66 1 November 2022 17: 30
                      0
                      Well, but you have already come up with everything for everyone. They put everything on the shelves - who is to blame for what and for what ... They found the blame for everyone - for Yeltsin, for Yanukovych, for Putin, for the Kremlin, for Russia, the list is long ... Only the inhabitants of Ukraine (and Donbass) have nothing not guilty. 25 years like everything suited everyone? If it weren’t for the “Kremlin”, you would have been blaming Russia for 8 years and not beeping ... How many tens of thousands of men have left the Donbass as refugees for Russia since 2014?
                      We can stick labels just as well as you.
                      1. bayard
                        bayard 2 November 2022 13: 55
                        0
                        Quote: fax66
                        How many tens of thousands of men have left Donbas as refugees for Russia since 2014?

                        How many hundreds of thousands of young men rushed out of Russia in all directions when mobilization was announced? And this despite the fact that no one has yet attacked Russia and there was no coup in the Kremlin.
                        Or maybe burst into accusations of cowardice towards the inhabitants of the border towns and villages of the Belgorod region. ? They are also moving out.
                        Or residents of the Kherson region. accuse them of fleeing from shelling and from the threat of flooding?
                        It will probably come to this when the shells in your city begin to burst.
                        Quote: fax66
                        If it were not for the "Kremlin", you would have been blaming Russia for 8 years now and not picking ...

                        If Donbass (and the entire South-East) had not risen to the fight when you were enjoying the Olympics, if self-organization and organized resistance had not occurred, if Donbass had not held out on its own until September 1, 2014, you would now be on the move yourself spoke up. Who is in Ukrainian, who is in English. And they didn't pee. And completely different people would have been sitting in the Kremlin for a long time.
                        These are "Ukrainian" policemen during street fighting on the streets of Kyiv at the end of the Maidan, they told reporters: "We have nowhere to retreat, Moscow is behind us ... if you understand what we mean." So you don't seem to understand this yet.
                        Quote: fax66
                        We can stick labels just as well as you.

                        "You are sharp on the tongue, try it in practice..."
                        Prove with feats of arms and victories that you can and know how. And then more and more you succeed in the assault on Upper Lars.
                        And yet, I fully agree with the opinion that the Russian People is the largest divided people in the world. And RF is not Russia. More precisely, not all of Russia. Russia is where blood is shed for the very name of Russian. It has been and is with us for 8 years.
                        And you have Upper Lars.
                        And for some reason, you had twice as many "frightened patriots" as mobilized and 5+ times as many as volunteers. It is you who have been looking at the fire in the neighboring house of your brother for 8 years, which was broken into by bandits. And when the corner of your house began to smoke, the frightened patriots rushed away like cockroaches - not to put out the fire.
                        Why is Sobchak and Nevzorov better than Yarosh and Farion? And you have no less.
                        Russia is not the Russian Federation, neither territorially nor mentally. Russia is much wider and deeper. And above the Kremlin. And the modern Russian Federation is just a fragment of it. The largest, but not the only one.
                    2. nobody75
                      nobody75 2 November 2022 17: 04
                      0
                      I like your approach! Yanukovych, it turns out, someone from the Kremlin twisted his arms! Tell me, please, how many visits did he have? And how many Maidans? Did the Kremlin interfere both times?
                      Sincerely
                      1. bayard
                        bayard 2 November 2022 18: 49
                        0
                        He had two passes. And both times they interfered, because they feared a turn towards an alliance with Russia from the Donetsk.
                        Quote: nobody75
                        Did the Kremlin interfere both times?

                        The second time he agreed with the Americans.
                        Quote: nobody75
                        Yanukovych, it turns out, someone from the Kremlin twisted his arms!

                        Don't you remember how VVP himself talked about this several times on camera??
                        Really don't remember?
                        As Obama persuaded him to persuade Yanukovych to remove troops from Kyiv - under guarantees.
                        No, don't you remember? Did not hear ?
                        And how did gangs of Maidan militants storm his residence on the same day?
                        How Yanukovych justified himself for having withdrawn his troops - in order to prevent a civil war and under guarantees that the Maidan militants would also be withdrawn.
                        He didn't trust European politicians/ambassadors at their word and signature. Not the American President! He agreed to persuasion ONLY after a difficult conversation with Putin!!!
                        And Putin himself spoke about this more than once.
                        About how it was with us in 2014-2015. I will not tell - look for yourself.
                        Quote: nobody75
                        Did the Kremlin interfere both times?

                        It's just that the Kremlin has a hut on the edge.
                        Look now at these antics with the "grain deal" - Exit \ suspend \ return. No.
                        Is this how a sovereign state behaves?
                      2. nobody75
                        nobody75 2 November 2022 18: 55
                        0
                        My dear, why do I need some GDP?! Viktor Fedorovich is my neighbor. No one twisted his arm and now does not twist it. Live in peace and enjoy...
                        Sincerely
                      3. bayard
                        bayard 2 November 2022 20: 14
                        0
                        I am glad that at least your neighbor has a calm and happy life. I heard that he is engaged in harvesting the sperm of breeding bulls.
                        And they didn't twist his hands out of the Kremlin. He was simply persuaded. At the request of Obama.
                        feel Partners - above all.
                        hi
                  2. bayard
                    bayard 1 November 2022 15: 24
                    +1
                    By the way, one more touch to the picture of the world - Delyagin has just announced from the Duma that the budget for next year has been adopted for consideration. So, this is the budget of the SURRENDER. With a decrease in defense funding by 1,44 times compared to the current year. The financing of development programs is also reduced by about one and a half times.
                    This is for you to understand who the enemy is, where the traitors are and who strikes what with his fingers. Is it any wonder that those called up for mobilization themselves buy uniforms and equipment at their own expense, and there is no normal communication in the troops. And why almost all rearmament programs failed ... Why is there no Navy (it was simply not built).
                3. nickname7
                  nickname7 2 November 2022 10: 13
                  0
                  holding the tug and promising to show something, the Supreme Liberator does not even blow his mustache

                  It's not right, they want, at least mentally, they really want to win, but they don't want to strain themselves and row the galley with all their might. I flew with Siberian Cranes, caught an amphora, such a life is easy and pleasant, and mobilization will have to sleep for 4 hours right in the office, why is this necessary. Fight like something there yourself.
            2. Nemchinov Vl
              Nemchinov Vl 31 October 2022 20: 26
              -9
              Quote: Ded60
              oh, oh, and us for shooo? So it turns out?
              no.
              there Below is a series of questionsfor those who can think..
              Quote: Ded60
              DneproGES, this is exactly a military facility. How do electric locomotives carry military equipment?
              then it would be more logical for the bases in Ramstein (or Poland, or Romania) ... even before sending equipment to the front (!). ...?!! or not ..?!! what
              Or not?! It's easier to declare, - "what they say we are at war with NATO", but in fact?!!...for example, according to the Pentagon...?!! For the training of specialists, .... and in Britain ...?!!

              Or scary (!)...?!!
              Quote: Ulan.1812
              It's useless, he won't understand.
              No. no sane person will understand...
              Too bad you don't see the difference... what
              Peace to your home (!). I don't mess around here at all!...
              to declare the goal of the NWO (and why not war?!, with the regime) denazification in a neighboring country (!). Okay, then why using the same methods?! request
              Is there an answer to such a question?
              Why, in 2014, this was not noticed?! Why in Kazakhstan, in winter, they decided to act decisively and immediately (within the framework of CSTO), quickly (!), and then they decided to simply "take out one UNIT - Yanukovych "...?! request
              Much seems inconsistent and incomprehensible?!!
              can you help me figure it out...? hi

              Quote: Ulan.1812
              of those who believe that Germany and the USSR are equally guilty of unleashing the Second World War.
              I will comfort you. Not one of those.

              Quote: Ulan.1812
              then you better shut up
              ... ? !! belay
              argumentative argument .... applause for you ...

              polite would apologize ...
              1. Former soldier
                Former soldier 1 November 2022 10: 07
                0
                Nemchinov Vl-vu.
                In fact, life is such a thing that you have to pay for everything. And for stupidity, too, when the Ukrainian authorities invited a bunch of British and Americans as advisers, invited some medical laboratories of an incomprehensible purpose to their place and generally stubbornly strove to join NATO. Was there really no understanding that this was a direct threat to Russia and that it would be better to come to an agreement with it than to allow it to a military clash, and then rely on the suffering of the civilian population. Why was it not thought of before? You have an "ancient" almost Sumerian civilization. Why do you need Western advisers for every sneeze? If the ancestors of the advisers were still running with clubs, and yours were already digging the seas. And what part of the body did you think when you chose the clown President in the most "democratic" way? It was out of desperation - let things get even worse faster, so that finally there is a turning point for the better? They did not want to agree on the neutral status of Ukraine, now they have to pay.
          2. Ulan.1812
            Ulan.1812 31 October 2022 16: 05
            +9
            Quote: Nemchinov Vl
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            Russia does not hit civilian targets.
            belay Seriously ?!!
            hit on the transformer substation of DneproGES, is this a military facility?!!
            You covered a hundred soldiers there?!! or five of the seven districts (almost a million city) left without light...?!! request

            Quote: Ulan.1812
            Energy infrastructure is considered dual-use objects
            type "ZRK Buk" feeds ...?!! belay
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            therefore, according to all international standards
            there are no such rules (!)....
            there they squealed and ignited the Maidan (!), but they are silent about the discontent in Moldova against Sandu (!) ... Think back now, talking with delight about hitting the energy sector ...?!! ..Will they be delighted with such "ways of salvation" ...?!! when, in fact, it was the "peace" that raked out .. !!!
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            But the Armed Forces of Ukraine are just hitting purely civilian objects, schools, hospitals, and so on.
            Yes in a frenzy of war (!), already all the PARTIES of the conflict are beating - FOR EVERYTHING !!!, which is not healthy ... !!! yes
            and it is absolutely, absolutely - NOT Good!!! winked

            If you do not understand anything, then you better be silent. YES!!!
            The transformer substation is also a military facility. Your attempt to be sarcastic is at least inappropriate.
            You have already been told that electricity is also the provision of military factories, this is military transportation and power supply for oil refineries, control computers, APUs, battery charging and much more.
            It's strange that you have to explain the elementary.
            And yes ... indirectly Buk too, because he runs on fuel that is made using el. energy.
            Think before you write.
            Once again, Russia does not purposefully destroy kindergartens, schools, hospitals, markets, etc., unlike your Ukraine.
          3. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 31 October 2022 17: 19
            +7
            Quote: Vl Nemchinov
            . Will they be delighted with such "ways of salvation" ...?!! when, in fact, it was the "peace" that raked out .. !!!

            The peacekeeper rode in delight on the Maidan, the peacekeeper demolished monuments, the peacekeeper rejoiced when they burned living people in Odessa, the peacekeeper did a lot of things ... Maybe it's time to bring the peacekeeper to his senses? So they bring ... It's like in the army - "You don't understand through your head, you understand through your legs." Such is the answer to the peaceful ...
            1. Former soldier
              Former soldier 1 November 2022 13: 20
              +2
              The peacekeeper rode in delight on the Maidan, the peacekeeper demolished monuments, the peacekeeper rejoiced when they burned living people in Odessa, the peacekeeper did a lot of things ... Maybe it's time to bring the peacekeeper to his senses? So they bring ... It's like in the army - "You don't understand through your head, you understand through your legs." Such is the answer to the peaceful ...

              Simple Sumerians rejoiced that the Crimean bridge was on fire. Mark was even released. Flashmobiles. And why are they now complaining that there is no electricity and shit does not go out of the toilet? You have to answer for stupidity sooner or later.
          4. Alexey_Kalashnikov
            Alexey_Kalashnikov 31 October 2022 17: 40
            -10
            Here they attacked Nemchinov. And he is essentially right. All this and all this SVO is very bad. Killing people is a bad thing. Of course, you need to support your own in the war. But our own people are dying at the fronts, they are dying in the streets of Donbass. And those who arranged it all grow fat and bastard in the Kremlin and Courchevel. Your energy would be to ask those who played off the two peoples. If this is not available to you, then ask at least for the plundered army, stupidly thrown to the slaughter of our guys. Or do you trust Konashenkov so boundlessly? And these stupid jumpers "oh, we bombed them" or "they won't be able to poop now" - this is stupidity. There is nothing to rejoice here. On the other side of the front line, people are almost as good as us, and just like us, fooled.
            1. 41 REGION
              41 REGION 1 November 2022 08: 17
              0
              Quote: Alexey_Kalashnikov
              And those who arranged all this are getting fat and bastard in the Kremlin and Courchevel

              That is, in Fashington, London, and Kueva, everyone is white and fluffy request
              I thought they were also bloodthirsty like tampax wink
            2. Former soldier
              Former soldier 1 November 2022 17: 17
              0
              There is nothing to rejoice here. On the other side of the front line, people are almost as good as us, and just like us, fooled.

              Fooled? Is there an understanding? So let them negotiate and compromise. Yeah, Washington uncle doesn't say?
            3. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 1 November 2022 17: 37
              0
              Quote: Alexey_Kalashnikov
              . Killing people is a bad thing.

              And why did you decide that someone rejoices in this murder? No, no joy from the fact that a hypothetical Yura shoots another Yura .. And both can die .. Maybe it's worth understanding the causes and consequences of this war? And immediately there appears a peacekeeper joyfully galloping on the Square of Independence, burning alive his brothers and friends in the house of trade unions in Odessa ... ... The money of the Jewish Bandera Valtsman, Kapitelman, Kolomoisky, Yatsenyuk, Groiman, etc. ... and behind them are ominous in their vastness, the black figures of Soros, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, all this reptilian pack ... That's why the war.
          5. Nuka
            Nuka 31 October 2022 22: 08
            +4
            Quote: Nemchinov Vl

            and it is absolutely, absolutely - NOT Good!!! winked


            To whom it is quick, and to whom it is tasty!

            Donetsk has been bombed for eight years, so don't be offended now.

            Pray that ODABs do not start working by area, and not by high-precision products.
          6. ilya.muromczev2013
            ilya.muromczev2013 1 November 2022 05: 03
            +3
            Why was the population of Ukraine silent when the Armed Forces of Ukraine, together with all sorts of Azov-Aidars, were hammering in the Donbass for 8 years? All this time, Russia did not recognize the DPR-LPR, and considered them part of Ukraine. They thought that the Ukrainian "civilian population" would choose someone smarter instead of the Maidan Nazis, and there would be some reasonable decision ... And now I absolutely don't give a fuck.. this is your Ukrainian "civilian population". Let them stay in the shoes of those whom they killed. They wanted the children in the Donbass to sit in basements? Here, let them sit there now. Muscovite tears from the gilyak - the place was vacated ... Period.
          7. Grancer81
            Grancer81 3 November 2022 07: 17
            0
            Mr. Nemchinoff, and in the modern world, such objects are a legitimate military target. Unlike schools, kindergartens and civilian hospitals, which the Waffen-APU soldiers hit with great pleasure ...
      2. 4ekist
        4ekist 31 October 2022 14: 00
        +22
        Western economists doubt that the fall of the Ukrainian economy against the backdrop of the events of recent weeks can be slowed down.....

        Let their economy collapse, they don't need it anymore.
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      4. Shark Lover
        Shark Lover 1 November 2022 01: 32
        0
        There were fewer generals and marshals. We draw conclusions))). Are they sleeping already or still? This is not a general’s business, it’s too late to work)))
    3. Borik
      Borik 31 October 2022 13: 38
      +23
      What the Ukrainian Reich sought for so long with his shelling, he received in response ..
      1. ARIONkrsk
        ARIONkrsk 31 October 2022 13: 44
        +21
        Quote: Borik
        What the Ukrainian Reich sought for so long with his shelling, he received in response ..

        It’s a pity that they didn’t start with all this right away, now things would be different and there would be fewer dead.
    4. Bingo
      Bingo 31 October 2022 13: 38
      +13
      Yes, but yesterday there was an influx of light-faced people, it was just a continuous “we don’t have everything so simple” in the comments) Especially on the branch about Bayraktary)))
      1. neworange88
        neworange88 31 October 2022 13: 40
        +19
        So in the ancient Sumerian mythology, Bayraktars occupy a rather significant place.
        1. Il'nur
          Il'nur 31 October 2022 13: 51
          +11
          Bayraktars occupy a rather significant place

          Not only bayraktars, before that they prayed for the "holy javelin", they pray for the naimars, and in general their main saint is "weight of mirsnami" ...
      2. Lako
        Lako 31 October 2022 15: 02
        +5
        Don't mock! People are in grief! Their outlets are out of light.
        1. guest
          guest 31 October 2022 15: 12
          +11
          Yes, it’s not such a terrible problem, it’s worse that their brains have long run out.
          1. Bingo
            Bingo 31 October 2022 15: 21
            +3
            They don't need brains. But without a charged iPhone, the world may not know about a grandmother with one potato
        2. TIR
          TIR 31 October 2022 16: 19
          +8
          Pugacheva disappeared - the whole country is purple, the electrician will go on a spree when the light disappears, and everyone immediately remembers him. Who will instruct the black eye, who is ready to wear in his arms. Only Pugacheva rows money with a shovel, and the electrician, like a holy fool, is given handouts
          1. guest
            guest 1 November 2022 20: 30
            0
            Since Pugachev has been remembered, has she not yet renounced Russian citizenship like some others?
    5. Silver99
      Silver99 31 October 2022 13: 42
      +30
      A competent tactic was chosen, the strike then wait for time to recover and a new, more destructive strike, 750 kV distribution substations cannot be restored just like that, besides, Ukraine has limited consumables, and the West will not help them here, the "javelins" have not learned how to generate heat electricity . In addition, fragments of a rocket fell on the Moldovans today, which means that it is not necessary to touch the flying rocket, it flies and flies, do not interfere with it.
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 31 October 2022 13: 55
        +10
        I do not consider this the right tactic. It is necessary to expand this "bottom" as much as possible. And not wait until they restore it and hit again.
        1. GIS
          GIS 31 October 2022 14: 25
          +9
          here you are wrong: you have to wait and beat. As they do now. then a double effect is obtained: and stocks (it’s hard to call a transformer a consumable) are guaranteed to end and pessimism in the lives of residents and their families will be added to everything (zeroing the work of repairmen)
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 31 October 2022 15: 04
            +4
            Quote: GIS
            ....... (zeroing the work of repairmen)

            And also nullify Western aid! Nothing left of her
      2. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 31 October 2022 14: 13
        +2
        Silver, the Moldovans are already without gas, but with Sandu. And then there are the fragments of rockets falling)
    6. 41 REGION
      41 REGION 31 October 2022 13: 44
      +9
      Quote: Lesovik
      That's what I look at today under the articles there are almost no comments.

      Monday laughing yesterday you can see they drank too much, today they are looking for water, but you won’t find water without light wink
      1. Silver99
        Silver99 31 October 2022 13: 45
        +9
        you won’t find it in Kyiv today even with the light, not from the word at all
      2. Alexander Minkin
        Alexander Minkin 31 October 2022 14: 15
        -2
        You're a monster and they can't poop without water in the toilet
        1. 41 REGION
          41 REGION 31 October 2022 14: 36
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Minkin
          You're a monster and they can't poop without water in the toilet

          I didn't have to put it in the kettle.
        2. 41 REGION
          41 REGION 31 October 2022 14: 46
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Minkin
          You are a monster

          But I didn’t drink with you on brotherhood.
        3. guest
          guest 31 October 2022 15: 14
          -3
          Nothing, let them learn from the "combat Buryats" who do not need toilet bowls. laughing
        4. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 31 October 2022 23: 05
          +1
          Let them tighten up and add yellow.
    7. Ulan.1812
      Ulan.1812 31 October 2022 13: 54
      +9
      Quote from Mitos
      And there are no downsides either. In this state, and further it is necessary to keep their energy systems. They themselves began to arrange terror on peaceful objects of "legitimate purposes" and so they endured for a very long time and did not touch anything, hoping naively that it would come, at least a little.

      And what to comment if everything is done correctly.
      We are just happy.
    8. Cat Alexandrovich
      Cat Alexandrovich 31 October 2022 14: 11
      0
      It turns out that there are still (according to the text) in Ukraine hundreds of large industrial enterprises that received electricity until the last moment? Those. worked... Hundreds! Large!
      1. GIS
        GIS 31 October 2022 14: 28
        +2
        well, a bakery, for example, will also be considered an enterprise (large or not, we’ll leave it on the conscience of informants, but that’s what it consumes a lot of electricity ...
        or a wholesale warehouse is also an enterprise and also needs a lot of electricity
        1. Cat Alexandrovich
          Cat Alexandrovich 31 October 2022 14: 41
          0
          Everything can be. After all, VO does not indicate WHAT it considers LARGE and what is not very. laughing
        2. Ratibor_A
          Ratibor_A 31 October 2022 15: 42
          +1
          Quote: GIS
          well, a bakery, for example, will also be considered an enterprise (large or not, we’ll leave it on the conscience of informants, but that’s what it consumes a lot of electricity ...
          or a wholesale warehouse is also an enterprise and also needs a lot of electricity

          Let the crested heads pedal the generators in turn, and there will be electricity and they will warm up
      2. BMP-2
        BMP-2 31 October 2022 15: 55
        +5
        A hundred more, a hundred less - what's the difference:?) In the Ukrainian media, in general, in the morning, victorious reports about the fact that 44 out of 50 missiles were shot down. And no one is embarrassed that in order to hit 18 objects with six missiles that have flown, you must at least have multiple warheads! laughing Well, or it turns out that 12 objects "were fired upon and damaged themselves," as they like to say in the same media wassat
    9. isv000
      isv000 31 October 2022 14: 27
      +4
      Quote: Lesovik
      That's what I look at today under the articles there are almost no comments ...

      You print a little when steam comes out of the mouth and the monitor shows darkness ... good
      1. guest
        guest 31 October 2022 15: 16
        +3
        Quote: isv000
        monitor shows darkness

        Finally the monitor shows the state of the "country".
        1. isv000
          isv000 31 October 2022 17: 20
          +3
          Quote: guest
          Finally the monitor shows the state of the "country".

          It was not in vain that in the past people crowded together and made a joint prayer with a request, so here, in the VO, up there, they still heard our requests and began to turn off the switches! It would be nice to cut down the sewer, let them go to the bucket, and the buckets - through the window, from the 9th floor sad ...
          1. Hermit
            Hermit 31 October 2022 21: 07
            +2
            There is no need to cut down the sewer, it does not work without water. And how to poop in the absence of water Europe is already giving advice - in a plastic bag. Hmmm, the stench in the yards will be like in the Middle Ages ...
      2. BMP-2
        BMP-2 31 October 2022 15: 57
        +4
        The darkness was already visible during the first Maidan. They just saw him "not only everyone. Few people could see it" laughing
    10. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 31 October 2022 14: 29
      +3
      Quote: Lesovik
      That's what I look at today under the articles there are almost no comments ...

      NO COMMENT and without them it is clear that "Russia has not started yet."
      1. Nemchinov Vl
        Nemchinov Vl 31 October 2022 15: 49
        -12
        Quote: tihonmarine
        and without them it is clear that "Russia has not started yet."
        belay
        put the patriotism aside ... just think (!) ... winked
        Russia sees that Ukraine is being pumped with weapons by the US and NATO...?!! winked
        How many NATO drones (type "Global Hawk", over the Black Sea), giving fire adjustments, and intelligence (or satellites), she knocked down?!! ... How many missile strikes on the NATO bases from which the supply is coming inflicted ... ? !! request ... do not know ... ?!! recourse ... and why do you think...?!
        WhyHere in their original land, the Slavs continue to kill each other with frenzy, and profits count US military-industrial complex (NATO) and China and India (on discount discounts crazy volumes of gas and oil supplies) ...
        JUST think!!! .. Don't beat "in the mouth of fire-starters!!, ....?!! Maybe scary ...?!! Maybe there is an understanding that we won’t take it out into the frontal against NATO ...?!! request
        ...and then you a second, logical question arises: - "why did they start this SVO then?, what did they hope for? that the "instigators" would not fit in?!! .... but isn't it naive?!! ... what
        and then see what happens from there, THIRD legitimate question. And now how to end it all without losing face and without declaring war on NATO (and what's worse USA) ... ? !! ...
        but for now their basically grind "blinded by their own" (which, formally on the other hand, are in - "oblivion of rage"), but on their own land...?!! what ...
        Yankees, Tuptsia ..... China and Delhi ... count in excess of profit (!) .... yes
        And Russia (with Ukraine) and Europe is aiming closer and closer to falling to the level of the Mariana Trench ... ? !! what

        correct me for my misconceptions... hi
        1. lucul
          lucul 31 October 2022 17: 24
          -3
          correct me for my misconceptions...

          What is there to fix?
          And so clear - this is chutzpah - clear and uncomplicated))))
        2. Alexey_Kalashnikov
          Alexey_Kalashnikov 31 October 2022 17: 47
          -8
          Here I completely agree. Our enemy is not the Ukrainians. Our enemy is much closer. And here we are glad that the toilet bowl was turned off by Ukrainians. So where are people's brains?
          1. Nuka
            Nuka 31 October 2022 22: 22
            +2
            Quote: Alexey_Kalashnikov
            Here I completely agree. Our enemy is not the Ukrainians. Our enemy is much closer. And here we are glad that the toilet bowl was turned off by Ukrainians. So where are people's brains?


            Your comment would have been relevant thirty-five years ago, but now it’s not at all what it was today.
            Alas and Ah, but there is no more fraternal Ukraine, only Anti-Russia remains.
        3. Nuka
          Nuka 31 October 2022 22: 29
          +2
          Quote: Nemchinov Vl
          Quote: tihonmarine
          and without them it is clear that "Russia has not started yet."
          belay
          put the patriotism aside ... just think (!) ... winked
          Russia sees that Ukraine is being pumped with weapons by the US and NATO...?!! winked
          How many NATO drones (type "Global Hawk", over the Black Sea), giving fire adjustments, and intelligence (or satellites), she knocked down?!! ... How many missile strikes on the NATO bases from which the supply is coming inflicted ... ? !! request ... do not know ... ?!! recourse ... and why do you think...?!
          WhyHere in their original land, the Slavs continue to kill each other with frenzy, and profits count US military-industrial complex (NATO) and China and India (on discount discounts crazy volumes of gas and oil supplies) ...
          JUST think!!! .. Don't beat "in the mouth of fire-starters!!, ....?!! Maybe scary ...?!! Maybe there is an understanding that we won’t take it out into the frontal against NATO ...?!! request
          ...and then you a second, logical question arises: - "why did they start this SVO then?, what did they hope for? that the "instigators" would not fit in?!! .... but isn't it naive?!! ... what
          and then see what happens from there, THIRD legitimate question. And now how to end it all without losing face and without declaring war on NATO (and what's worse USA) ... ? !! ...
          but for now their basically grind "blinded by their own" (which, formally on the other hand, are in - "oblivion of rage"), but on their own land...?!! what ...
          Yankees, Tuptsia ..... China and Delhi ... count in excess of profit (!) .... yes
          And Russia (with Ukraine) and Europe is aiming closer and closer to falling to the level of the Mariana Trench ... ? !! what

          correct me for my misconceptions... hi


          You, as I see it, just like us, are craving for thermonuclear strikes on the CPR. A very correct desire, there is only a little left - to find and instantly destroy enemy SSBNs. Well, until this is done, you will have to crush the water in the mortar with multi-pass, alas. Otherwise, the entire biosphere will again have to go through the bottleneck of general extinction.
        4. ata
          ata 1 November 2022 14: 14
          0
          The Yeltsin-Putin clan, which stole Soviet property, deliberately and consistently destroyed the country's economy and scientific and technical potential.
          They have turned the country into a raw material appendage of those with whom they are now allegedly at war, but in fact continue the policy of betrayal, contempt and hatred for the people they have robbed.
          The exchanges of Taira and Azov are examples of this. With all deliveries of raw materials, the party that bought this raw material receives a significantly larger profit. The so-called president and the clan whose talking head he is, in fact, are guilty of the collapse of the economy. It is in this context that all these transactions should be considered.

          The grain deal was started, and then, after the Crimean bridge was blown up, it was frozen. Fussy, contradictory, ineffective and compromising politics of half-wits who are trying to pose as statesmen.

          These vile, deceitful and narrow-minded people have done and are doing everything possible to destroy the country and its people.
          The common foreign masters of both the Moscow and Kyiv political clans are pursuing with their hands the policy of destroying the Soviet people for the cost of the weapons that they supply to the Zelensky regime.

          Accordingly, the solution is to remove the enemies of the people from power and restore the USSR.

          You see the facts correctly. For some mysterious technical reasons, I can’t give you a plus, I don’t know why, whether it’s my browser settings or my account restrictions on the part of the site administration.
    11. credo
      credo 31 October 2022 14: 34
      +4
      Accordingly, there are growing doubts about how effective the military assistance provided to the Zelensky regime is. However, while Western governments are not going to refuse to provide this assistance.


      The Anglo-Saxons have extensive experience in fomenting wars and coup d'état, and the lack of the benefits of civilization in the territory that they have chosen as a "ram" and a victim, at the same time, is not a factor influencing their refusal to supply such a territory with weapons.

      An example is Afghanistan, which, at the time the Soviet troops entered there, was far from civilizational benefits. So the poverty of the population of the former territory of the Ukrainian SSR also does not prevent the Anglo-Saxons from supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine with weapons and sending them for slaughter. The main thing for them is that this "slaughter" lasts as long as possible, and where the natives will warm themselves - by the fire in the forest or by the radiator in the apartment - they do not care at all.
    12. krops777
      krops777 31 October 2022 14: 50
      -1
      It was noted that today again strikes were made on large energy facilities in Ukraine, including the distribution substation of the Dniester hydroelectric power station, generation facilities at the Dnipro hydroelectric power station.

      That's what I look at today under the articles there are almost no comments ...


      Well, finally, the generals from the Ministry of Defense bothered to consult with the power engineers which electric power facilities should be bombed, apparently they still read the military review, how much could be drowned for what needs to be bombed in the energy sector.
      1. Elephant
        Elephant 31 October 2022 15: 01
        +1
        It was necessary to start the destruction of Bandera power engineering from six 750 kV substations, and not engage in mouse fuss with small things
        1. krops777
          krops777 31 October 2022 15: 55
          0
          It was necessary to start the destruction of Bandera power engineering from six 750 kV substations, and not engage in mouse fuss with small things


          And not only, but actually I talk about these things in every opus about the destruction of energy 404, on VO.
    13. marswell
      marswell 31 October 2022 17: 37
      0
      And what is there to comment on - we sit and quietly thrill from the good news)))
  2. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 31 October 2022 13: 31
    +8
    So it's nice! May it always be so.
  3. art having
    art having 31 October 2022 13: 32
    +11
    All this is wonderful, but the question is why didn’t everyone finish it 2 weeks ago, and ideally in March?
    1. Borik
      Borik 31 October 2022 13: 45
      +11
      In the spring, we thought that everything would cost a little blood. We will quickly liberate Ukraine from the Nazis with the least destruction. But they miscalculated a bit.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 31 October 2022 14: 16
        +8
        I have a feeling that Ukraine will turn into Germany, May 1945. Children with bowlers will come up to the soldiers' kitchens with plates and shout, "Glory to Putin," Grown-ups will make square eyes and say, "It's all the government's fault." We're not to blame
        1. Cheshire
          Cheshire 31 October 2022 14: 28
          +2
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          I have a feeling that Ukraine will turn into Germany, May 1945. Children with bowlers will come up to the soldiers' kitchens with plates and shout, "Glory to Putin," Grown-ups will make square eyes and say, "It's all the government's fault." We're not to blame

          You don't have one...
        2. isv000
          isv000 31 October 2022 17: 30
          +2
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          I have a feeling that Ukraine will turn into Germany, May 1945. Children with bowlers will come up to the soldiers' kitchens with plates and shout, "Glory to Putin," Grown-ups will make square eyes and say, "It's all the government's fault." We're not to blame

          A soldier will not offend a child. And there is no faith for adults, they will now be obliged to prove their loyalty with everyday work, otherwise - a kick in the wide ass and - forward, to the West!
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 31 October 2022 19: 13
            0
            How generous you are.) They will do without the West. To the east - to Norilsk Nickel - to the electrolysis shops, to serve the term. And then you can also go west ... If they survive.
            1. isv000
              isv000 1 November 2022 13: 06
              0
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              How generous you are.) They will do without the West. To the east - to Norilsk Nickel - to the electrolysis shops, to serve the term. And then you can also go west ... If they survive.

              Can! And between shifts, let them live on Mt. Obryv, behind Medvezhka, there is an old barracks there and a suitable wind rose - all the aromas from the copper-nickel plant are present!
              1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                Andrei Nikolaevich 1 November 2022 13: 31
                0
                Do you want to be kind again? They do not need rest between shifts and vschkie mountains. And then, you can also relax in the electrolysis shop during nickel electrolysis. It is much more comfortable there than at the front line, under the "grads". Again, you can jump and sing chants about "gelyaku and moskalyaku". Voobdem, all conditions. Even protection at the expense of the state.
      2. Mishka78
        Mishka78 31 October 2022 14: 25
        +2
        Quote: Borik
        But they miscalculated a bit.

        Not a little, sorry .. PPC how they miscalculated. For such miscalculations, heads should fly. It is possible that they decided not to advertise this until the end of the war, but after the end of the debriefing, a most serious one should take place.
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 31 October 2022 16: 00
          +2
          How, then, will the citizens of the unfortunate be upset if they find out that on the Maidan, Georgian snipers fired at them. And they have already renamed the squares into “Square of the Heavenly Hundred or Heroes of the Maidan” Are they really that stupid? ..
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 31 October 2022 13: 32
    +6
    . In particular, it is noted that the actions of the Russian troops are aimed at casting doubt on any military and financial assistance to the Ukrainian authorities.
    . So they must understand that everything that the Westerners do is not horse fodder.
    According to the Ukrainian prime minister, from the morning until now (13:20 Moscow time), 18 objects have been hit in 10 regions.
    how is it ... after all, their heralds announced that they shot down 40 missiles out of 50 ... who and how defeated the remaining 8 objects?
    1. Woodman
      Woodman 31 October 2022 13: 39
      +7
      Quote: rocket757
      shot down 40 missiles out of 50 ... who and how defeated the remaining 8 objects?

      This is nonsense, here the math is more complicated: a week ago, Arestovich said that out of 12 missiles, 18 were shot down and these 60% of intercepted missiles are a very good result of their air defense.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 October 2022 13: 48
        +4
        So Lucy broadcasts to her audience! With the brains of that audience, everything is simple ... i.e. they don't exist at all.
        Although, after all, it’s worth doing, thinking about the question ... when the brainless public loses capitally, will they start looking for their idols for ... in general, they will start beating ???
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 31 October 2022 15: 12
          +1
          Whatever Lucy says, they believe it, because he only says what will make them happy, in a cheerful voice. And no one is going to count.
          .... in general, they will start beating ???

          They will start, of course, when they are convinced that they can’t wait for water and light
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 31 October 2022 15: 22
            -1
            We'll see... they may tell you how everything will turn out for them there, it will end.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 31 October 2022 15: 49
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              We'll see... they may tell you how everything will turn out for them there, it will end.

              Maybe, as they themselves came up with ---- they will lustrate! Or maybe, in the American way ---- naked in resin, in feathers, tied to a pole, and then thrown out from somewhere
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 31 October 2022 17: 05
                0
                The circus can roam anywhere, but the clowns, if they fed somewhere, would never leave there.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 31 October 2022 17: 41
                  +1
                  Quote: rocket757
                  The circus can wander anywhere, but here are the clowns, ....

                  If clowns run away from the circus ---- they will never do anything good to anyone. They will only continue the evil antics, theft, meanness.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 31 October 2022 19: 42
                    0
                    Clowns are different!
                    Both sunny and the creations of someone's sick fantasy ...
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 31 October 2022 19: 48
                      +1
                      Often they substitute others, steal, build dirty tricks. These are all in / to Ukraine pinned down. If there is someone Sunny clown, then they hid. And right
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 31 October 2022 19: 54
                        0
                        The solar clown will not survive when satanic dances are around, masses are going on!
          2. aakvit
            aakvit 1 November 2022 07: 59
            0
            They will start, of course, when they are convinced that they can’t wait for water and light


            Oh is it? Rather, they will run for liver sausage or roast beef to their owners! Faithful dogs do just that!

            Hi Dima drinks
    2. yanus
      yanus 31 October 2022 15: 15
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      how is it ... after all, their heralds announced that they shot down 40 missiles out of 50 ... who and how defeated the remaining 8 objects?

      So ricochet...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 31 October 2022 15: 23
        -1
        Quote: yanus
        So ricochet...

        Did sho nizEnko, nizEnko flew?
      2. aakvit
        aakvit 1 November 2022 08: 00
        0
        So ricochet...


        Aha! The bouncing bomb was, it seems... wassat
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 31 October 2022 13: 34
    +15
    18 objects were hit in 10 regions ... the missiles of the RF Armed Forces inflicted damage on the enemy hundreds of times greater than their cost
    The result, which not only pleases, but also gives optimism. And it's not just the damage inflicted on the Kyiv regime and its economy, but the fact that the Western "sponsors of the war" will really have to tighten up. And for the same Europe, it is significantly expensive for its problems.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 31 October 2022 13: 39
      +16
      In general, I have little idea where the West will take at once a huge amount of complex electrical equipment .. Such things usually do not gather dust in warehouses. The same industrial transformers are still made to order. And how much it will be performed is an open question ..
      1. meandr51
        meandr51 31 October 2022 14: 15
        0
        And why would he need to restore something? The colder and hungrier the people, the more willingly they join the army. Soon there will be queues at the military registration and enlistment offices in Kyiv...
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 31 October 2022 14: 22
          +3
          Well - you need to at least power the piece of iron .. At least. Yes, and you won’t save enough for other military facilities of generators ..
        2. zenion
          zenion 31 October 2022 20: 16
          0
          Do you think the army will put warm compresses and they will feel good. There are no heaters in the trenches. Well, if it still rains, then the helmet will not save. Cola lords fight at the peasants in forelocks to trischat.
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 31 October 2022 23: 07
      0
      They are already blathering that the West owes them blankets for the winter, the main thing is that they don’t mess up and don’t send them with smallpox.
  6. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 31 October 2022 13: 34
    +5
    it's all wonderful
    one question, two dry cargo ships with grain left Odessa, what will be our actions, we seem to have withdrawn from the grain deal, or another red line?
    1. Pulkovo1942
      Pulkovo1942 31 October 2022 13: 36
      +1
      left Odessa two bulk carriers with grain

      12 ships. The export is agreed with Turkey and the UN, the government with its concerns and red lines is now officially showed a figure, or rather the middle finger.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 31 October 2022 13: 42
        +1
        Quote: Pulkovo1942
        12 ships

        On 12, as agreed, two bulk carriers, Admiral de Ribas and Mount Baker, left the port with grain and other agricultural products
      2. Vladimir M
        Vladimir M 31 October 2022 13: 45
        +17
        But to turn the ships back to Odessa, as always, someone does not have enough determination. And then we wonder why every mongrel in the world is trying to kick us. They treat us the way we let them.
      3. zenion
        zenion 31 October 2022 20: 18
        0
        Pulkovo 1942. Shredded the people, greatly shredded. Previously, they showed up to the elbow, but now, only a finger.
    2. ViktorX
      ViktorX 31 October 2022 13: 45
      +2
      I think we need to carefully mine all the "humanitarian corridors" and then, after the very first sinking of the dry cargo ship, declare that we have withdrawn from the grain deal and all losses should be paid by those who agreed with each other.
      1. Vladimir M
        Vladimir M 31 October 2022 13: 54
        +12
        There is no need to mine anything, we will be accused of terrorism. But you have to be responsible for your words. They said that they withdrew from the grain deal, which means that no one is going anywhere. But for this you need to have "eggs", at least like Kim's (although I'm not a fan of Juche, the fact that Kim is responsible for his words cannot be taken away from him)
        1. aars
          aars 31 October 2022 13: 59
          +6
          There is no need to mine anything, we will be accused of terrorism.
          Did I miss something, they stopped blaming us?! belay
          Even if they are accused of cannibalism, the best praise is swearing at enemies!
          1. Vladimir M
            Vladimir M 31 October 2022 14: 12
            +2
            Why mine if it is enough to turn the ships back to Odessa?
          2. ViktorX
            ViktorX 31 October 2022 14: 20
            0
            Yes, seven troubles - one answer.
            Although, for the sake of honor, it should be mined and warned that mines can effectively
            withdraw from the grain deal
        2. fuel oil
          fuel oil 31 October 2022 14: 34
          0
          Kim does not have such mutually beneficial projects with "partners" as a gas hub, the construction of a nuclear power plant ... And he does not care about the straits at all laughing You know, he fires missiles over Japan with South Korea. And no one is bored in the Asia-Pacific region.
    3. guest
      guest 31 October 2022 15: 23
      +1
      The fact that they have come out is not such a problem, but the fact that regular ships with weapons are sent to Odessa is completely different.
  7. ZIF122
    ZIF122 31 October 2022 13: 37
    +4
    Yes, our fellows! Even so, ten days every day, methodically and purposefully, and the Ukrainian economy will be very difficult to restore!
    1. Vladimir M
      Vladimir M 31 October 2022 13: 48
      0
      In Ukraine, there has been no economy for a long time, but Ukrainians will carry trains with weapons by diesel locomotives. If necessary, the European people will help them in this matter.
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 31 October 2022 14: 01
        +2
        There is such a picture - Barge haulers on the Volga. They can parody - barge haulers on the embankment.
      2. Cat Alexandrovich
        Cat Alexandrovich 31 October 2022 14: 21
        0
        How is it "no economy for a long time"? Reread the note - HUNDREDS OF BIG ENTERPRISES!
      3. GIS
        GIS 31 October 2022 15: 01
        +1
        well, they wrote, diesel locomotives will also suffer and fuels and lubricants for them also fall under the distribution
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  8. Appraiser
    Appraiser 31 October 2022 13: 38
    +9
    This should have been done from the very beginning of "SVO", there is no need to be liberal with the Nazis, their economy should simply be put under the "knife" .....
  9. Sebostyuan
    Sebostyuan 31 October 2022 13: 39
    +5
    Let these lgbtshniki decide among themselves. That 44 missiles out of 50 were shot down. That 18 objects are hit.
    My option: Since we have few missiles to save and hit 3 targets with one missile
    1. Ratibor_A
      Ratibor_A 31 October 2022 15: 53
      0
      Quote: meandr51
      They are even better without light. More people will join the army.

      No, go to the EU
  10. yuriy55
    yuriy55 31 October 2022 13: 44
    +3
    Russian missiles today caused damage to the enemy hundreds of times greater than their cost

    Sometimes I myself am not friends with cases, but it should be:

    Russian missiles hit today damage adversary, hundreds of times their value
    hi
  11. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 31 October 2022 13: 45
    +4
    We need thousands of specialists, hundreds of tons of materials, advanced logistics for their delivery, tight deadlines.


    It is very good! Keep going like this! Outskirts in ruins!
    And the ukrofascists said that we had run out of missiles. laughing
    1. guest
      guest 31 October 2022 15: 27
      +1
      Quote: your vsr 66-67
      And the ukrofascists said that we had run out of missiles.

      Yes, and they continue to say, now I read the Western media and there topic No. 1 Russia ran out of weapons.
  12. fighter angel
    fighter angel 31 October 2022 13: 48
    +5
    Great news!!! The brothers work, and how they work!!!
    Thank you family!
    Beat so that not a single Bandera viper crawls away!
  13. Arman Bakhtikyan
    Arman Bakhtikyan 31 October 2022 13: 49
    +4
    Here is the result for you no worse than tactical nuclear weapons
    1. zenion
      zenion 31 October 2022 20: 21
      0
      Sorry for Bukovina. Was there, the people are normal, not warlike. They would only have sheep and other things near the house, and this is already a great joy. They pulled them in.
  14. Andrea
    Andrea 31 October 2022 13: 50
    +4
    So let's see what the West is ready for for the sake of Ukraine. A chicken from the Bank's beak opens up for 9 billion greens a month, now it will need much more.
    I'm afraid they will merge and everything will fall on Russia, however, you can not be afraid, that's exactly what will happen.
  15. Amateur
    Amateur 31 October 2022 13: 51
    +7
    We can talk about hundreds of millions of dollars that must be spent in a short time to restore the entire energy supply system.

    Restoring the grid requires transformers, not dollars. Trances of such power are made individually, not "on the knee" and not in three days. So ours must continue to destroy their infrastructure, depriving the ukroreich of the opportunity to transfer equipment and reserves to the front. The sooner the war ends, the less economic losses both sides will suffer. No matter what the Eurotolerists promise, Russia will have to restore the economy of the liberated Ukraine.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 31 October 2022 14: 17
      -1
      They are even better without light. More people will join the army.
      1. Amateur
        Amateur 31 October 2022 14: 27
        0
        Without electricity, only the birth rate increases. drinks
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 31 October 2022 14: 55
      +2
      Russia will have to restore the economy of the liberated Ukraine.

      But why? what At least in the original form? what

      So that 20 years after the restoration at our expense, Tsegabonia would again wag its back and succumb to independence? Which time already? How much can you jump on a rake?
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 31 October 2022 15: 19
        +1
        Quote: paul3390
        ......What for? what ...... So that 20 years after the restoration at our expense, Tsegabonia would again wag its back and succumb to independence? ......

        So let it be an agricultural country! Wanted decommunization? Get your sign
  16. aars
    aars 31 October 2022 13: 52
    +6
    Accountants screwed up...
    It's not about the cost, but about the impact on the enemy, the criticality of the object.
    Destroying some low-cost ball bearing plant will reduce industrial potential more than destroying an assembly plant.
    No, they’re doing it right, but it’s stupid to translate everything into cost.
    1. Sasha1979
      Sasha1979 31 October 2022 14: 05
      +5
      The accounting approach is simply harmful, of course. We must proceed from the destruction of the potential of the enemy. And (as if softer ... well, it doesn’t matter at all ...) how much it costs.
    2. Andobor
      Andobor 31 October 2022 14: 09
      +3
      Quote: aars
      No, they’re doing it right, but it’s stupid to translate everything into cost.

      This is what we think, but in Western civilization everything is converted into loot, even the ashes of burned Jews.
    3. Luminman
      Luminman 31 October 2022 14: 09
      0
      Quote: aars
      to translate everything into a cost is stupid

      Cost is the measure of how a weapon works...
    4. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 31 October 2022 15: 08
      +2
      Destruction of some inexpensive factory
      And the collapse of temperature logistics chains (freezing) can cause, if not Holodomor-2, then real problems with food.
  17. Arkady007
    Arkady007 31 October 2022 13: 54
    +1
    This is something very serious. To understand, you need to think carefully.
    The fact that this will affect the entire course of hostilities is unambiguous.
  18. Two
    Two 31 October 2022 14: 00
    +3
    hi Must Kuev, back of Russian cities, stink to the point of impossibility! And he compares with Europa - stepmother! There, too, a bucket was thrown out the windows, on the heads of rogues.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 31 October 2022 14: 19
      -1
      This will only lead to better motivation. Everyone will run to the army to sign up, they are fed there.
  19. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 31 October 2022 14: 01
    +3
    dollars cannot restore the work of 700-megawatt capacities overnight.

    And who said that dollars will restore megawatt capacities? A black hole is a black hole...
  20. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 31 October 2022 14: 01
    +5
    Ukraine should become a SUITCASE without a handle for the "civilized" West.
  21. tralmaster
    tralmaster 31 October 2022 14: 02
    +3
    Money can be given, but where are the Soviet units to take to replace the destroyed ones. Zrada. Forward dill.
    1. meandr51
      meandr51 31 October 2022 14: 20
      -2
      They won't do it either. Their goal is to destroy everything with the hands of Russia, and then give it to her.
  22. Ugens
    Ugens 31 October 2022 14: 10
    -10
    This will lead to an increase in Western supplies and support for Ukraine, strikes on civilian critical infrastructure are considered terrorism and cannot be considered retaliation for strikes on warships. Such strikes also have no effect on the situation at the front, in the army there are generators and Starlinks everywhere.
    I wonder what the flurry of minuses will be?
    1. iouris
      iouris 31 October 2022 14: 14
      +2
      Quote from ugens
      strikes against civilian critical infrastructure are considered terrorism

      Thus, the US - and all NATO states - are terrorist states. And the Russian Federation is waging a national liberation war with them.
    2. Dedok
      Dedok 31 October 2022 14: 39
      0
      Quote from ugens
      Such strikes also have no effect on the situation at the front, in the army there are generators and Starlinks everywhere.

      no, these are direct problems of the logistics of the war, which means there will be a result
      1. Ugens
        Ugens 31 October 2022 15: 04
        -3
        Almost no logistics. Trains will be carried by diesel locomotives, and the main deliveries are by road.
        1. bulat
          bulat 31 October 2022 15: 38
          +1
          As for 1758 mainline freight locomotives, 945 of them are in operation, including 202 diesel locomotives and 743 electric locomotives. Faulty, under repair or maintenance - 782 freight locomotives (393 diesel locomotives, 389 electric locomotives). Another 14 diesel locomotives and 17 electric locomotives are in the reserve of Ukrzaliznytsia.
          Diesel locomotives are 4 times less than electric locomotives. And this is the data for 2018
        2. Fat
          Fat 31 October 2022 17: 17
          0
          Where can you get fuel? For cars, diesel locomotives, steam locomotives? It’s also a problem ... Well, it doesn’t affect logistics in any way, that is, completely, it just makes it more expensive by a multiple. I understand that Ukraine is at war - they will find someone to ask from, no, not money - fuel.
    3. GIS
      GIS 31 October 2022 15: 12
      0
      This will lead to an increase in Western supplies and support for Ukraine,

      supplies of what???money? Or another weapon? they definitely won’t put their minds, but to help in an even greater bloody confrontation of the Nazis, yes, they are masters in this
      Of course, there will be support, but not peaceful, but military. what is and what was. so your comment is just a minus.
      1. Ugens
        Ugens 31 October 2022 15: 40
        -4
        And they will give money and weapons.
        If you think that Ukraine will capitulate from such strikes, then you are greatly mistaken. Russia itself strengthens the resistance of Ukrainians by its actions.
        Unfortunately, in VO, most people like you who do not understand this. Even 9 months of war did not teach you anything.
        1. GIS
          GIS 1 November 2022 12: 37
          0
          deliveries will be written on paper. I do not argue . will it arrive? question.
          intensifies hatred towards us? I agree.
          and what do you think the Germans immediately "fell in love" with the USSR after the defeat in 1945? Therefore, today I was both happy and sad watching a video of Kiev residents standing for water. not everyone is to blame, BUT SOMEONE REJOYED DEATHS in the Donbass and Luhansk region AND DEVELOPMENT IN the Russian Federation (a postcard with the Crimean bridge is the closest one)
          as we understand it, only persuading the GDP "Let's live together" will not correct anyone .... eeeh
          here is your answer: https://www.mk.ru/politics/2022/10/31/putin-menyaet-ugol-ataki-na-ukraine-pochemu-zelenskiy-poka-derzhitsya.html
    4. guest
      guest 31 October 2022 15: 31
      0
      Quote from ugens
      strikes against civilian critical infrastructure are considered terrorism

      So you admit that Ukraine is a terrorist state because they have been bombing the civilian infrastructure of Donbass for 8 years.
  23. Uprun
    Uprun 31 October 2022 14: 13
    +4
    Campaign SVO adds romanticism on the outskirts ....., candles, water from a pump, a potbelly stove in the trash, a toilet on the street ....., romance in Kueva, like in a village............ ..., a communal apartment is getting cheaper before our eyes, not like in Russia ...., pay for gas, cold water / hot water, sewerage, heating, electricity, internet, solid waste ..... Here it is life for free ..... .., you don’t have to pay for anything ........, isn’t this what they dreamed of ...... The EU will look and they will want it too ..............
  24. Div Divich
    Div Divich 31 October 2022 14: 14
    +3
    It is necessary to prompt the Ukrainians that dollars burn well, they will just get down to kindle the stove.
  25. DED PICHTO
    DED PICHTO 31 October 2022 14: 16
    +1
    I don’t understand one thing, the economy of Ukraine has long come tryndets and moreover full. It is obvious. And why the hryvnia exchange rate against the dollar is 60% more than the ruble against the dollar - this is incredible.
    1. Div Divich
      Div Divich 31 October 2022 14: 27
      +2
      Either the government of Ukraine fixed it, or the United States ordered the heads of stock traders to keep such a course.
  26. ViktorX
    ViktorX 31 October 2022 14: 17
    +2
    Quote: Vladimir M
    Why mine if it is enough to turn the ships back to Odessa?

    Why persuade someone to do something if you can mine and all problems will be solved automatically?
    How the Americans do it: they blew up the Nord Streams and all the negotiations on gas supplies through them
    stopped automatically
    1. Uprun
      Uprun 31 October 2022 14: 25
      +4
      We don’t need to mine anything there, the outskirts have already mined everything before us, we just don’t need to trawl the passages ....., there are a lot of mines, storms, sea waves, breaks a bunch of mines .... if we are not in business ......
  27. iouris
    iouris 31 October 2022 14: 25
    -2
    So, it turns out ... what are these Iranian missiles?
    1. Uprun
      Uprun 31 October 2022 14: 48
      +3
      Is Bayraktar in the service of the Armed Forces of Ukraine marginal or Turkish? Javelin, 777, etc ..... So?
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  29. VictorVictor
    VictorVictor 31 October 2022 14: 29
    +3
    "...The Kyiv regime is requesting additional funding from Europe and the United States. But the whole problem is that even if the financing in the required volumes ($17 billion) is implemented, then the work of 700-megawatt capacities cannot be restored overnight with dollars. We need thousands of specialists, hundreds of tons of materials, advanced logistics for their delivery, tight deadlines."...
    You have not taken into account the MAIN. THIS IS EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO MAKE. I doubt there is room anywhere. in which copies of this equipment are stored. To adapt APPROXIMATELY the same is to change the foundations, possibly the height of the room, the supply and outlet of water (for a hydroelectric station), .... YOU saw a trifle.
  30. Amateur
    Amateur 31 October 2022 14: 29
    +1
    Quote from ugens
    This will lead to an increase in Western supplies and support for Ukraine, strikes on civilian critical infrastructure are considered terrorism and cannot be considered retaliation for strikes on warships. Such strikes also have no effect on the situation at the front, in the army there are generators and Starlinks everywhere.
    I wonder what the flurry of minuses will be?

    It looks like electricity appeared somewhere in Ukraine. The bot spawned right away.
    1. Uprun
      Uprun 31 October 2022 14: 35
      0
      No, he produces electricity while pedaling .... he twists his legs, and fidgets with his hands on the clave .....
    2. Ugens
      Ugens 31 October 2022 15: 06
      -5
      As expected, there are essentially no objections.
      1. Uprun
        Uprun 31 October 2022 15: 53
        +2
        For objections in essence.......... The army is not only the front, it is also the rear ....... repair plants, railway infrastructure, fuel and lubricant bases, etc. Rule one - the rear will rise, the front will rise ..... Study the history of the Second World War and the relationship between the rear and the front ....., i.e. learn materiel ..... in fact.
  31. YanniKounnar
    YanniKounnar 31 October 2022 14: 32
    +2
    Moralite de cela:
    Les Russes ont appris que contre l'OTAN/USA il faut appliquer les méthodes de ...l'OTAN/USA :-)
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    1. Uprun
      Uprun 31 October 2022 14: 57
      +4
      And in Kueva know about it? Go, they didn’t lead yesterday ....., I hope that until 2014. Do the striped ones know about this (Yugoslavia)? Aha, or is it something else ...... They bleated, whined about international humanitarian law ..... Anglo-Saxons at least once responded to this article?
      1. berlaga2005
        berlaga2005 31 October 2022 17: 42
        0
        Why didn’t you mention humanitarian law in 2015 during the energy, water and food blockade of Crimea? The UN then treated the terrorist attacks of the Crimean Tatars with sympathy and understanding.
    2. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 31 October 2022 16: 54
      +1
      "Destruction of objects necessary for the survival of the civilian population"

      Why are you so selective?
      Committing acts that starve the civilian population as a way of waging war by depriving them of items they need to survive, including obstructing the provision of aid.
  33. Dedok
    Dedok 31 October 2022 14: 36
    +2
    it's high time to do this, and not to "play" humanism
  34. fiv
    fiv 31 October 2022 14: 37
    -4
    In principle, the electric power industry is very maintainable. Only some parts are expensive - boilers, turbines, generators, transformers, switches, synchronous compensators. But Siemens did not impose sanctions against Ukraine, so the knocked-out equipment will be quickly replaced, especially with block devices. Stapo be, this nut will help us to crack the periodicity of the impact on adversaries.
    1. Uprun
      Uprun 31 October 2022 14: 50
      +1
      And what, Siemens signed up to work for free, or for the money of taxpayers, nemchura ...?
      1. fiv
        fiv 31 October 2022 15: 07
        +2
        Musk tried to pretend he didn't sign. But he realized his mistake. The opinion of Siemens in this case will not interest anyone. Or maybe not interested anymore. Germany is rich - will pay. Then.
        1. Uprun
          Uprun 31 October 2022 15: 43
          0
          Will pay later, who - to whom? It doesn't work like that.... Money in the morning, chairs in the evening..... Something like this.... In this approach, a can would fill its gas stations with cheap gasoline, but no, private capital... Siemens is also not a state office. ..., there are owners ..... - capitalists ....
          1. fiv
            fiv 31 October 2022 15: 58
            0
            Someone, let Siemens, supplies the German government with the necessary equipment. Or the local Ministry of Emergency Situations has the necessary equipment in stock, an emergency supply .. Or the federal grid company has the necessary equipment. When making a decision with Siemens, Germany concludes a contract and pays. Or he signs a contract with a network company and pays. Or simply takes what is already paid for and gives it back. Or does not pay, but as we have - one non-punishment. or two. THIS is unimportant. They will say in Brussels or Washington - they will do it.
            1. Uprun
              Uprun 31 October 2022 16: 18
              0
              Well, well, tell Siemens - supply ..... and no one will pay ..... The network company of the federal network of Germany simply has heaps of equipment compatible with Soviet-made equipment ...., here it lies and gathers dust ... Push the engine from Merina into Constipation ...... you have to try it ....... He will say in Brussels or Washington and they will push it .....
  35. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 31 October 2022 14: 59
    -2
    Russian missiles today caused damage to the enemy hundreds of times greater than their cost

    Preferably with numbers. At least approximate, if the exact ones are a mystery.
  36. Boniface
    Boniface 31 October 2022 15: 20
    +1
    Today's missile strikes on the energy infrastructure were called "catastrophic" at an emergency meeting of the Ukrainian government in Kyiv. If before that the Ukrainian power grid, albeit with the maximum voltage of generations and transformer substations, could provide electricity transmission throughout Ukraine, then, after today's strikes, a collapse occurred. More than forty key facilities of Ukraine's energy networks were hit. Among them are DneproGES, Yuzhnodnestrovskaya GES, Kanevskaya and Kremenchugskaya GES.
    The assessment of the damage is ongoing, but it is already clear that to restore the functioning of the energy system, even in the minimum emergency mode, huge resources and equipment will be required, which Ukraine does not have.
    In fact, Ukraine is on the verge of an energy collapse.
    The missile attack on October 10 destroyed up to 15% (conservative estimate) of energy generating and energy transfer facilities. Today's strike disabled at least another 15% (conservative estimate) of such facilities, which will completely unbalance the operation of the unified energy grid of Ukraine. At the same time, up to 60% of all transformers of 330 kW networks were destroyed. So far, 750 kW networks are operating that receive electricity from Ukrainian nuclear power plants, but without step-down transformers they are useless. most industrial and household electrical equipment will simply burn out at this voltage. That is, generation electricity is produced, but it is impossible to use it.
    The current blows are "catastrophic" because Ukraine can no longer effectively compensate for their consequences. And the next wave of missile strikes could finally plunge Ukraine into darkness.
  37. Belopolyak
    Belopolyak 31 October 2022 15: 27
    -1
    I read the comments and how much gloating ... I do not justify Khokhlyatsky in this or that situation, like many here. Now I see that "themselves with a mustache", especially the caste "again put minuses." Like women, by God. On the one hand, write there is a war, on the other, you are worried about the minuses. Ugh.
    And there are no downsides either. In this state, and further it is necessary to keep their energy systems.

    As a rule, such frames sit under 1 comment, so that more "heavenly mana" drips (read-pros)
  38. fiv
    fiv 31 October 2022 15: 34
    0
    Quote: Boniface
    At the same time, up to 60% of all transformers of 330 kW networks were destroyed. So far, 750 kW networks are operating that receive electricity from Ukrainian nuclear power plants, but without step-down transformers they are useless. most industrial and household electrical equipment will simply burn out at this voltage. That is, generation electricity is produced, but it is impossible to use it.

    Not kilowatts (kW), but kilovolts (kV). At 750 kV, ALL equipment, industrial and household, will burn. And if consumption (use) does not occur, then generation does not occur.
  39. Ratibor_A
    Ratibor_A 31 October 2022 15: 48
    +1
    Quote: meandr51
    And why would he need to restore something? The colder and hungrier the people, the more willingly they join the army. Soon there will be queues at the military registration and enlistment offices in Kyiv...

    The queues to Europe will be at the Ukrainians, and not at the military registration and enlistment offices, it would be in Russia that there would be queues at the military registration and enlistment office ...
  40. Ratibor_A
    Ratibor_A 31 October 2022 15: 55
    0
    Quote: Amateur
    Without electricity, only the birth rate increases. drinks

    In the cold and without sewage, on an empty stomach, they will not have much desire to increase the birth rate ...
  41. Bingo
    Bingo 31 October 2022 16: 10
    0
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine officially announced the destruction of 44 out of 50 missiles launched in Ukraine.
    The Prime Minister of Ukraine announced the defeat of 18 objects in 10 regions.
    Thus, according to official Ukrainian statements, 6 missiles were able to hit 18 targets (3 per brother) in 10 regions.

    And when will they run out of drugs?
  42. berlaga2005
    berlaga2005 31 October 2022 16: 14
    0
    Not so big problems on a piece of iron
    https://uz-vezemo.com/delayform/
    7 flights are delayed by 1-3 hours (!). There are no canceled flights.
    1. Uprun
      Uprun 31 October 2022 16: 36
      +1
      There are no railway flights, flights on air transportation, there are regular buses, there are no regular trains, the Russian language is powerful ....
  43. evgen1221
    evgen1221 31 October 2022 16: 15
    0
    Well, they will give money for the war with joy, but for restoration, no, no, it’s not about the West, they’re more likely to break up and merge into the sunset.
  44. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 31 October 2022 19: 39
    +1
    It is clear that it can be won cheaper for Russia and much easier. Keep destroying the Ukrainian economy and infrastructure and they will kneel to negotiate.
  45. alekc75
    alekc75 31 October 2022 20: 45
    0
    Quote: Alexey_Kalashnikov
    Here they attacked Nemchinov. And he is essentially right. All this and all this SVO is very bad. Killing people is a bad thing. Of course, you need to support your own in the war. But our own people are dying at the fronts, they are dying in the streets of Donbass. And those who arranged it all grow fat and bastard in the Kremlin and Courchevel. Your energy would be to ask those who played off the two peoples. If this is not available to you, then ask at least for the plundered army, stupidly thrown to the slaughter of our guys. Or do you trust Konashenkov so boundlessly? And these stupid jumpers "oh, we bombed them" or "they won't be able to poop now" - this is stupidity. There is nothing to rejoice here. On the other side of the front line, people are almost as good as us, and just like us, fooled.
    there are few people there! 70% of nonhumans are fascists!!
  46. Vadim12
    Vadim12 31 October 2022 21: 02
    0
    This is very good, because the layman, who thinks where to get water, where to charge the phone and the flashlight, is no longer very up to politics and fictitious defeats.
  47. Bayun
    Bayun 31 October 2022 22: 47
    0
    Not happy. In the end, the Russian Federation will not let the U-people disappear, even if they scream and swear. People-u will still be embarrassed in front of people-r and people-b and others - there are many of us - for their filthy behavior.

    I want to KILL! But we restrain ourselves and simply do not beat to death, substituting our warriors ...
  48. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 31 October 2022 22: 56
    0
    Finally, they are seriously hammering the hydroelectric power station for a long time. good
  49. topol717
    topol717 31 October 2022 23: 15
    +1
    Quote: bayard
    In the DPR, many of us have friends and relatives on the other side of the front, and we worry about them no less than about our loved ones here in Donetsk.
    And the fact that the SVO has turned from a "quick liberation special operation" into an indefinite execution of civilians on both front lines is inconvenient, unpleasant, but a FACT.

    YES, this is a fact, because the Clown President decided to make war with Russia. Well, or they forced him to fight, I don’t know the details. Or maybe just Boris Johnson persuaded. Promising golden mountains of weapons and all kinds of assistance. Also Crimea in addition. But the Kremlin apparently had a long summer vacation, and Shoigu obviously got lost in his Taiga, or at the training ground in Alabino.
    But the situation in the NVO zone was changing rapidly, and the Kremlin generals were smoking bamboo. Now they have received the 5th number and in a hurry they are trying to at least turn the tide.
    In general, for the thousand-year history of mankind, during the war, not a single state has ever taken into account the inhabitants, this is a resource, exactly the same as iron, grain or electricity. Such a valuable resource. The only difference is that without this resource there will be no state at all. Therefore, it is customary to say that this resource is cherished, but this is not true, it is used, although in a very specific way. Yes, everything I said sounds cruel, but it's true.
  50. Reznov
    Reznov 1 November 2022 02: 01
    0
    Can somebody explain this to me. If Starlink is the only way for the afu to communicate on the battlefield. Then why cannot Russia just trace these emissions signal back to the starlink ground stations? "In order for the Starlink Internet to work, gateway stations are installed on the ground. The gateway connects to the satellite, which, in turn, transmits its signal to the terminal dish. To connect to the network, you need a terminal that looks like a small satellite dish, a tripod and a router."
    Using that they could pin point the location of AFU military units, especially the afu artillery and high precision weapons.
    1. ForWar34
      ForWar34 1 November 2022 06: 32
      0
      Starlink gateway is much cheaper than Geranium, besides, there are probably fake gateways
      plus it is military communications not on starlink, but on conditional taps
      starlink for other purposes, send greetings there, read the news, sit on social networks on vacation, respectively, all this is in a certain depth of the rear