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Bloomberg: Russia can use microchips from household appliances in the production of weapons

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Bloomberg: Russia can use microchips from household appliances in the production of weapons

The European Union is concerned about the sharp surge in exports of household appliances to Russia from third countries, in particular Kazakhstan and Armenia. There are fears in Brussels that Russia could use electronics to produce military equipment. Bloomberg writes about it.


According to the publication, since the beginning of the special military operation, Kazakhstan and Armenia have sharply increased the supply of household appliances from the EU, or rather, washing machines, refrigerators and even breast pumps. This equipment is then shipped to Russia, and deliveries have also increased dramatically. European officials fear that microchips from refrigerators and washing machines in Russia are being used to manufacture military equipment, which is then used in Ukraine.

Bloomberg reports that some officials from Europe allegedly saw parts from refrigerators and washing machines in Russian tanksshot down in Ukraine. Naturally, no evidence of this has been presented.

It is worth noting that accusations of this kind against Russia are by no means the first and certainly not the last. In May of this year, the Kyiv regime accused the Russian military of allegedly stealing household appliances in the "occupied territories." It was stated that dishwashers and washing machines from Ukraine are massively exported to Russia, where they get microchips for further use in Russian missiles and drones. Many "experts" appeared on Ukrainian television who personally saw these very microcircuits in wrecked tanks, etc.

It got to the point that this nonsense was picked up in the United States, where Minister of Commerce Gina Raimondo seriously accused Russia of dismantling washing machines and dishwashers in Ukraine due to sanctions imposed on the supply of electronics. At the same time, she referred to "authoritative Ukrainian experts."

Since история tends to repeat itself, then we can talk about the second round of accusations of using household appliances for military purposes. Only dishwashers have replaced refrigerators this time around. On the third lap, probably, it will even reach the TVs.
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  1. bulat
    bulat 30 October 2022 17: 20
    +74
    What is there. The washing machine has an engine, just attach the wings and stuff the explosives into the tank more tightly. And the Ardo 2 drone is ready.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 30 October 2022 17: 24
      +44
      oh, and this drone will fly noisily .... especially at 1200 spin revolutions .... lol
      1. gurzuf
        gurzuf 30 October 2022 18: 43
        +5
        Quote: Nexcom
        oh, and this drone will fly noisily .... especially at 1200 spin revolutions .... lol

        The main thing is the end result soldier
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 30 October 2022 19: 10
        +3
        Quote: Nexcom
        oh, and this drone will fly noisily .... especially at 1200 spin revolutions ....

        Like a balloon whose nozzle is not sealed. Unpredictable and fatal
      3. January
        January 30 October 2022 19: 49
        +3
        Quote: Nexcom
        oh, and this drone will fly noisily .... especially at 1200 spin revolutions .... lol

        Not noisier than Geranium-2 m214 (nee Shahed 136) Has the embargo been imposed on lawn mowers yet? Sorry, got it? After all, the legs of their motors, they say, grow from garden equipment .... And then on the rise. Trimmers, grinders, hair dryers, electric shavers after all...
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 30 October 2022 19: 52
          +1
          Brilliant about electric razor motors. Now we will go unshaven. laughing
          1. January
            January 30 October 2022 21: 35
            +7
            Russians in all films are bearded. The position is binding.
          2. ROSS_51
            ROSS_51 31 October 2022 02: 19
            +2
            Why are there electric razors .. there is a Gillette in the end .. but if they get to the vibrators, women will not understand ..
      4. Div Divich
        Div Divich 30 October 2022 19: 53
        +1
        I'll tell you a secret, 1200 rpm is only for taxiing, the main jet thrust, which is attached to the sides of the washer, just fits under the wings.
        1. belovvladimir
          belovvladimir 31 October 2022 12: 22
          +1
          The direct rotation of the shaft is like 15000-17000 rpm, 1200 is most likely at the maximum spin, that's just how to push the chip into the weapon, it's not entirely clear, there is a program, and it depends on the filling valve, it is on the side inside the machine, and the relay, well let's say, but mikruha, she only has a program and a timer, a torsion time, and a switching mode, well, stupid people, according to Lavrov, and well, stupid people according to Zadornov!
      5. Old Doctor
        Old Doctor 30 October 2022 21: 35
        +6
        I have a 800 rpm washer. Will it fly or not?
        1. Bourgeois
          Bourgeois 1 November 2022 12: 40
          +1
          It will fly at low level)) So low))
      6. sagitovich
        sagitovich 1 November 2022 17: 28
        0
        Well, children will be told fairy tales about flying moidodirs. They wash out the outskirts to holes.
    2. Ablet
      Ablet 30 October 2022 17: 31
      +28
      And you also need to figure out where to get 220V, maybe like a trolleybus along power lines)) it will lead just to the substation)))
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 30 October 2022 17: 36
        +31
        bullshit problem - 50 pieces of solar panels from Casio calculators to pick out - and a mustache. and we will count on wooden accounts - not small.

        PS From a pancake, but in cloudy weather it will not fly then! from after all! well then, for sure - pull the wires and the current collector like a trolleybus.
        1. marchcat
          marchcat 30 October 2022 17: 47
          +13
          And what to talk and talk about with such people, if they firmly believe in such nonsense. And in Russia, sorcerers live if Daggers and Sarmatians are made from a washer.
          1. Albert Brecht
            Albert Brecht 30 October 2022 18: 28
            +5
            Yeah, from the washer-daggers, and the dryer will go to the Sarmatians, connected, it’s not scary, they will fly together, it won’t be boring. We don’t bathe with an iron at all, we don’t even have it, they made such a thing out of it, it won’t seem to anyone laughing
            1. ruha
              ruha 30 October 2022 19: 42
              +9
              I remembered the jumble where the boy launched an iron into space, but the old Soviet one without electronics! I imagine what this boy (now probably an adult man) will make from a breast pump lol laughing
              1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 19: 47
                +1
                Quote: ruha
                I remembered the jumble where the boy launched the iron into space
                Radio made.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-CtKm5190&ab_channel=SEGA
                1. ruha
                  ruha 30 October 2022 20: 17
                  +1
                  Quote: Vasilyevich Pensioner
                  Quote: ruha
                  I remembered the jumble where the boy launched the iron into space
                  Radio made.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-CtKm5190&ab_channel=SEGA

                  Look to the end laughing
                  1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                    Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 20: 30
                    +1
                    I reached the radio and stopped, I watched the premiere for a long time.
                    feel hi drinks
              2. your1970
                your1970 30 October 2022 23: 43
                +3
                Quote: ruha
                I remembered the jumble where the boy launched an iron into space, but the old Soviet one without electronics! I imagine what this boy (now probably an adult man) will make from a breast pump lol laughing

                A combat breast pump will do ... rrraz and sucked, you won’t tear it off ...... and a famine will begin among Ukrainian babies ... belay belay
                A terrible weapon is worse than nuclear weapons, selective action recourse
          2. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 30 October 2022 18: 41
            +18
            What nonsense? Yesterday, under the window, a tank stalled. Two military men came in, took something out of the washing machine, inserted it into their tank, and then drove on to the Donbass. 1500 km left to go...
            By the way, the machine began to work even better after that, probably it was an extra detail.
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 30 October 2022 21: 49
              +4
              Quote: Captain Pushkin
              took something out of the washing machine

              Yeah, I didn’t know that a “spherical horse in a vacuum”, that is, a conditional chip, fits anywhere. laughing Oh, Zadornov died early. So much material. And you don’t need to write texts, think of something, just voice the news feed. Lived up.
              1. filibuster
                filibuster 31 October 2022 13: 57
                +1
                Well, by itself, the chip from the washing machine based on the ARM Cortex core is quite universal and can be used in military equipment, another thing is that, in order to reduce the cost, the chips are usually installed in washing machines with a one-time flashed ROM or truncated functionality, plus a clearly non-industrial performance.
                But in theory, under such supplies, you can hide the gray import of real chips.
          3. yuriy55
            yuriy55 30 October 2022 18: 54
            +30
            Bloomberg: Russia can use microchips from household appliances in the production of weapons


            Bloomberg's soft sobs are heard:
            - Russia is stealing our chips again!
            They got used to dragging a little.
            Conscience completely lost, by golly!

            We imposed unbearable sanctions on them,
            We require receipts from each purchase,
            From electronics we sell them
            Only what we consider rubbish.

            ***
            So many empty heads of cockroaches.
            We transport chips in old sofas!
            There are many smart men in our country
            They are taken out of washing machines.

            With the right mind and skill
            You can find them in a regular hacksaw,
            And in a meat grinder, and in an iron,
            In a spoon, a saucepan and a boot.

            We will find them at the bottom of the ocean,
            Let's shake it out of an empty glass
            All of you in revenge - would be enough strength.
            Putin taught us all this.
            1. Plate
              Plate 30 October 2022 19: 47
              +1
              Wow! One plus is not enough! But no more, alas. Who composed? Or folk art?
              1. yuriy55
                yuriy55 30 October 2022 20: 54
                +8
                Quote: Plate
                Who composed? Or folk art?

                We are all from the people ... So, sometimes insight comes and thoughts in the head agitate in courage, and light rhymes run towards them, and fingers ask for a pen, a pen for paper, a minute - and the verses will flow freely ... stop Again Pushkin suffered ... laughing
            2. Old Doctor
              Old Doctor 30 October 2022 21: 39
              +9
              Imitation of Japanese poetry:
              ***
              I took the chip out of the washer
              Inserted in "Dagger"
              The rocket flies fast.
              1. poquello
                poquello 30 October 2022 22: 38
                +7
                Quote: Old Doctor
                Imitation of Japanese poetry:
                ***
                I took the chip out of the washer
                Inserted in "Dagger"
                The rocket flies fast.

                Well, here is an imitation of Russian-Uzbek poetry:
                ***
                I took the chip out of the washer
                Inserted in "Dagger"
                The rocket flew fast.
                1. Old Doctor
                  Old Doctor 31 October 2022 13: 30
                  +3
                  Adyn urus
                  Chip wanted,
                  From the teapot
                  In missiles "Caliber"
                  To fly
        2. Plate
          Plate 30 October 2022 18: 12
          +9
          Quote: Nexcom
          PS From a pancake, but in cloudy weather it will not fly then! from after all! well then, for sure - pull the wires and the current collector like a trolleybus.

          So this also means that you just need to fly above the clouds! Along the way, at the same time, you can connect to Starlink and find out what they are talking about.
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 30 October 2022 19: 27
            +4
            Wow! It is immediately clear and understandable - ours will figure out how to solve any problem! It's not in the West. There, of course, they will decide - but at a high price. And we have brainstorming and all cases are resolved. laughing
    3. 4ekist
      4ekist 30 October 2022 18: 43
      +5
      Bloomberg reports that some officials from Europe allegedly saw parts from refrigerators and washing machines in Russian tanks,

      Idiots have a rich imagination. Why didn’t they say anything about the pumps of the drain barrels of toilet bowls, they can also be used in submarines. After all, they have already twisted it on boats in Kerch.
    4. svp67
      svp67 30 October 2022 19: 39
      +3
      Quote: bulat
      The washing machine has an engine, just attach the wings and stuff the explosives into the tank more tightly. And the Ardo 2 drone is ready.

      Why are you giving out "state secrets" wink
      It was stated that dishwashers and washing machines from Ukraine are massively exported to Russia, where they get microchips for further use in Russian missiles and drones.
      And ceramic toilet bowls, for the production of multilayer tank armor ...
    5. Mister X
      Mister X 30 October 2022 21: 05
      +1
      Quote: bulat
      the washer has

      In 2014, components from washing machines were already used.
      Here is a reconnaissance robot developed in Lviv.





      The engine and reducer for the tank were developed at JSC "Elektrobytpribor" (50 years on the market of household washing machines).



      Pay attention to the "night vision system".

    6. ruha
      ruha 30 October 2022 23: 59
      0
      Maybe, for the sake of fun, launch them a couple of washers from a catapult or something else ... Trampoline? laughing
    7. Corrosion inhibitor
      Corrosion inhibitor 31 October 2022 04: 34
      +5
      It got to the point that this nonsense of the insane was picked up in the USA.

      This is not the delusions of the insane. These are elementary deductions.
      The United States, with the help of Chubais and the like, deprived us of the Soviet elemental base. Which, all the time of its existence, successfully competed with everything that was done by the same USA, including. All reports about this Chubais over the hill have long been sent. Back in the early 2000s.
      In the US, they know that today we do not have enough efficient domestic-made electronics.
      There, however, right now, Russian precision-guided munitions of practically all calibers and types, including the same Calibers, are falling directly on their heads.
      The conclusions here are very simple. ... Where, according to their ideas and plans, it should have been empty, it turned out to be dense, but with a good margin. So they realized it now, when in the morning they were at the station without panties. smile
      We, too, should not hesitate now - you can’t buy everything in China. They have the same mess there. Taiwan is "not China", it is called. And this is not the only reason why in such a huge and rich country as ours, the foundations of defense capability and economic stability should be domestically produced from the very foundation.
      Without this, nothing will happen.
    8. Pravodel
      Pravodel 31 October 2022 08: 18
      +1
      Forgot about the vacuum cleaner. He definitely has everything, and he is small, almost like an Iranian drone. We attach wings and bomb Banderlogs with a miracle called "Geran-2" .. And that's all: Iran, Iran. We also do things ourselves...
  2. Govorun
    Govorun 30 October 2022 17: 22
    +19
    Bloomberg: Russia can use microchips from household appliances in the production of weapons

    Yes, we are like that, we can assemble a helicopter from a blender, and a tank from an iron ...)))
    1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
      Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 17: 57
      +1
      Quote: Govorun
      and from the iron a tank ...)))
      So back in the days of the USSR, specialists were trained, they started with a simple one, and now they must reach the tank.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-CtKm5190&ab_channel=SEGA
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 31 October 2022 00: 48
      +5
      In fact, you can make a drone control system out of the worst smartphone. There is a processor, there is GPS, there are cameras, there is a transceiver device. 2 SIM cards are inserted, one Russian, one Ukrainian, and here you have a network connection for almost the entire duration of the flight. How much do Chinese smartphones cost if you buy in the thousands? Half a hundred evergreens or even cheaper? Especially if you order without a touchscreen, it is almost the most expensive part. There is no need for special reliability, it will work for a couple of hours, and then it will kill itself on the target.
  3. Piramidon
    Piramidon 30 October 2022 17: 23
    +15
    I have a bunch of old cell phones lying around. Tell me how to assemble "Geranium" from them?
    1. faiver
      faiver 30 October 2022 17: 41
      +16
      Geranium from old mobile phones will not work - there are no rotating parts, look for coffee grinders, blenders, food processors and electric meat grinders bully
      1. malyvalv
        malyvalv 30 October 2022 18: 31
        +3
        You need lawn mowers. Or chainsaws at worst.
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 30 October 2022 19: 20
        +6
        Quote: faiver
        Geranium from old mobile phones will not work - there are no rotating parts, look for coffee grinders, blenders, food processors and electric meat grinders

        So boys. A motor from a coffee grinder, a power supply from an old laptop or a screwdriver, A little plywood for frames, fiberglass for the hull fixed by the Soviet EDP-60 (I may be wrong with the abbreviation, but we even made boats from Soviet epoxy and fiberglass) there will be a strong airframe, and a GLONASS chip from the old mobile phone will taxi this device where necessary !!!! Death to the fascist invaders of the Russian land
      3. Pravodel
        Pravodel 31 October 2022 16: 18
        0
        It's better to take a vacuum cleaner, you can load more explosives ..
    2. PN
      PN 30 October 2022 17: 47
      +16
      Will not work. From the mobile phone "Orlan" collect. And for "Geran" old telephones with disk dialing are used.
      1. VPK-65
        VPK-65 31 October 2022 00: 58
        +1
        From the mobile phone "Orlan" collect. And for "Geran" old telephones with disk dialing are used.

        In the early 2000s, the Americans accused Iraq of buying dual-use items. Specifically: Saddam Hussein bought several thousand Sega Dreamcast set-top boxes with a Hitachi SH-4 central processor that ran at up to 200 MHz. Among the main features of the SH-4 architecture are the presence of two computing units with a superscalar branching module and another parallel computing unit for floating point vector operations.
        The Dreamcast's main processor was a Hitachi SH-32 symmetrical superscalar 4-bit RISC processor running at 200 MHz clocked at 360 MIPS. The processor cache was 8 KB, the data cache was 16 KB. Part of the main processor was a 128-bit graphics-oriented math co-processor with a performance of 1,4 GFLOPS. The system's graphics processor was a NEC PowerVR2 clocked at 100 MHz and integrated with the system's integrated circuit. The GPU was capable of outputting over 3 million polygons per second. In addition to the Windows CE operating system the set-top box also supported third-party APIs.

        Saddam Hussein was then accused of having enough iron of this class to control a cruise missile. How true is this? By the way, this "rarity" is still lying around my house, if our industry needs it, they could also announce the collection of scrap metal. Dreamcast is not a washer, it will have more brains, and it’s not a problem to bring out control interfaces ...
        1. PN
          PN 31 October 2022 06: 47
          0
          Heard something similar. Allegedly, the processor from SP3 is enough to be installed on a ballistic missile.
          1. VPK-65
            VPK-65 31 October 2022 12: 21
            +1
            Allegedly, the processor from SP3 is enough to be installed on a ballistic missile.

            If we are talking about PS3 (PlayStation 3), then I think it’s quite enough performance, but I’m not sure whether ALL malicious bookmarks can be removed from it (games for 3 curling irons are also hacked, but this does not mean that it was cleaned out completely). Despite the fact that in theory even Ubuntu can be installed on it, after that it can remain ... a "guest OS" just like it is done with an ARM smartphone processor on the notorious Raspberry Pi where Linux is placed on top
            https://habr.com/ru/post/440584/
            And under it hides the proprietary ThreadX OS (real-time operating system) with closed source. IMHO: I would definitely stay away from ARM processors (the farther into the forest, the thicker the Trojans).
            https://ru.bmstu.wiki/ThreadX_RTOS
    3. Vasilyevich Pensioner
      Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 17: 59
      +3
      Well, you need to ask for help from herbarium lovers, they must have some spare parts. :-)
    4. The collective farm is voluntary.
      The collective farm is voluntary. 30 October 2022 18: 00
      +3
      I suggest: if the mobile phone is with GPS, then the brains for the balalaika are ready. )))
      If without GPS, hand over to sappers, they will make a VU with remote control. Just take out the sims)
    5. Napayz
      Napayz 30 October 2022 18: 17
      0
      Geranium request
      Control box only smile

      The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information.
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 30 October 2022 17: 23
    +11
    We will make kamikaze drones from this household appliances! ! wassat
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 30 October 2022 17: 27
      +10
      Even it hurts a lot to spend 8 refrigerators on the substation. Campaign there one coffee maker is enough. Well, to the edge - to finish off with an iron. lol And then - 8 refrigerators. Look what .... It’s good to dump them on tanks - that’s it. good
      1. jdiver
        jdiver 30 October 2022 19: 33
        +1
        > spend 8 refrigerators at the substation.

        Can you get by with just one air conditioner?
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 October 2022 18: 08
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      8 refrigerators, and no substation!

      Wasteful.
      Old: "Reaganomics should be Reaganomics!"
      It is enough just 1 (!) Refrigerator to put a spy satellite into orbit and take off and there is no satellite.
      Well, to save the world, one of the cosmonauts should be reprimanded for confusing the satellite with a refrigerator. Do not forget the closed decrees to increase the rank. Well, a new apartment.
      good
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 30 October 2022 18: 45
        +3
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        refrigerator to put a spy satellite into orbit and take off and there is no satellite.

        As an experienced person, I’ll tell you, there’s no need to “tear” anything there.
        Hit the refrigerator gently on the satellite from above and it will fall down by itself. Checked.
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 30 October 2022 19: 42
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      What will the superstat feel like when he sees a link of refrigerators, or a whole aviation regiment of irons in flight?

      They will fly beautifully! Wedge! And add some music too! "Migratory birds are flying..."
      Py.Sy. Oh guys! I can't laugh anymore!
    4. mr wolf
      mr wolf 30 October 2022 23: 31
      +1
      This has already happened:

      Everything new is well forgotten old ...
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 31 October 2022 06: 11
        0
        Probably this is a steam-powered self-propelled anti-aircraft samovar? Shoot down enemy drones with axes? Everything looks so glamorous. And deadly.
  5. Bingo
    Bingo 30 October 2022 17: 24
    +10
    Yes, yes, today they came with a search from the military registration and enlistment office. I was almost shot for the game "Just you wait" hidden during the previous search wassat
  6. Buyan
    Buyan 30 October 2022 17: 24
    +9
    I have a lot of laptops, mobile phones, etc. where can I take it for the production of tanks? wassat
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 30 October 2022 17: 35
      +1
      Every joke has its share of jokes! During the Great Patriotic War, radios were confiscated from the population, which were then dismantled and the lamps from them were sent to military radio stations. Echoes of that practice were observed even in the 60s of the last century, when they were obliged to register home radios.
      1. stankow
        stankow 30 October 2022 17: 57
        +4
        And after the war, how did they return the radios to their owners, without lamps chtol!? laughing
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 30 October 2022 18: 03
          0
          Radio receivers, in my opinion, were not returned to the population.
          1. stankow
            stankow 30 October 2022 18: 26
            +3
            And they told me that people were still alive - everything was returned according to the inventory.
            1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
              Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 18: 35
              +1
              Quote: stankow
              And they told me that people were still alive - everything was returned according to the inventory.
              Yes, I almost forgot, my father was returned when he returned from the front. Somewhere until 1968 it stood on a shelf. By that time we already had a radio with records.
          2. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 30 October 2022 18: 47
            0
            After the war, radios began to produce new ones.
            I have stored on the mezzanine VEF 1947 release.
      2. Vasilyevich Pensioner
        Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 18: 01
        +4
        Well, this is most likely in order not to listen to enemy stations.
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 30 October 2022 18: 08
          -1
          Such a justification has always seemed strange to me, the format of the forum does not allow you to call your opinion the words it deserves. That is why I remember so much in my childhood about the seizure of receivers, and when I found out the real reason, the question disappeared.
          It is in modern Ukraine that they can be persecuted for reading Russian resources, to such an extent there has spread irresponsibility and belief in long-standing prejudices.
          1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
            Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 18: 13
            +1
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            forum format does not allow you to call your opinion those words which it deserves.
            And you express your delusion with a floral version. Well, in a simple way, there is an expression about this:

            "Jupiter, you are angry - that means you are wrong"
            1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
              Sergey Aleksandrovich 30 October 2022 18: 15
              -2
              No, I know for sure, but you broadcast the prejudices of many years ago, and even persist.
              1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 18: 17
                +1
                Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                and you broadcast the prejudices of many years ago, and even persist.
                How is it in American. Someone persists, but you, it's different.
                I also know for sure. Then they found another solution, they began to jam enemy stations.
                1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
                  Sergey Aleksandrovich 30 October 2022 18: 27
                  -3
                  They began to jam enemy stations when they did not know the correct answer, they believed in past prejudices and lost their adequacy.
                  1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
                    Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 18: 31
                    +1
                    What's the difference, it's about something else. In addition, the jammers did not help much.
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 30 October 2022 18: 17
          +2
          Quote: Vasilyevich Pensioner
          Well, this is most likely in order not to listen to enemy stations.

          For this they were silenced.
          In my memory, in the Khrushchev-post-Khrushchev era, not only RS and DW were jammed, but also Radio China (!). yes
          1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
            Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 18: 48
            0
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            but also Radio China (!)
            Silencers didn't help. I remember the radio of China because they once said that this is a wealthy family, they have four bicycles. Have fun.
        3. stankow
          stankow 30 October 2022 18: 30
          +2
          In Bulgaria, they did not seize, but sealed the tuning knob. To only listen to the national radio. And there was also an anti-fascist station that broadcast on the same frequency, interspersed with an announcer. Such is the propaganda radio war... Nothing new under the sun.
      3. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 30 October 2022 18: 01
        +4
        During the Great Patriotic War, radios were confiscated from the population
        To deprive the enemy of the possibility of propaganda over the radio.
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 30 October 2022 18: 12
          -2
          My response to similar thoughts is a little higher. So sure, because I know, not guessing.
          1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
            Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 18: 25
            +1
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            So sure, because I know, not guessing.
            Your not understanding your delusion is that at that time there were only a few such radios among the population, and thousands of times more were needed for the needs of the army.
        2. malyvalv
          malyvalv 30 October 2022 18: 35
          0
          Yes, and the spies had problems receiving ciphergrams. Not every spy needed a walkie-talkie.
      4. stankow
        stankow 30 October 2022 18: 02
        +7
        Televisions in England were registered until the early 80s. And there were special direction-finding stations that showed at home with unregistered TV sets. According to the radiation of the local oscillator. To pay the fine and fees. Well, like in a movie - a rotating antenna, operator, etc. Only in a car.
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 30 October 2022 18: 13
          +3
          Do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs. You had to pay to watch TV.
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 30 October 2022 18: 24
            +3
            had to pay
            And now you need - 159 pounds per year yes . For this money they support the Air Force. The same tulle wassat in France, Germany, Portugal, Japan, and quite a few other places.
          2. stankow
            stankow 30 October 2022 18: 32
            +2
            What did he say
            ...................................
      5. Popov I.P.
        Popov I.P. 30 October 2022 18: 20
        +4
        Where do you get such information from? According to the order of the NKVD and the NCC, radio equipment was confiscated from the population for two purposes: 1. to exclude the access of the population to enemy propaganda 2. to exclude the use of broadcasting receivers of the population for one-way intelligence communication of enemy spy networks conditional text). By the way, these receivers were supposed to be handed over to special warehouses for storage, some citizens even got their receivers back after the war. But not all, because a number of such warehouses ended up in the occupied territory (there was no time for their evacuation in a retreat situation) and were looted by the invaders. By the way, in the occupied territory of the USSR, the Germans and their allies seized receivers from the population for the same purpose (something that the NKVD and NKS did not manage to seize).
        1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
          Sergey Aleksandrovich 30 October 2022 18: 31
          -3
          This deza was to hide the true reason. Isn't it clear? There was a war and the enemy did not have to know about the difficulties with radio tubes. It was clear to me even as a child that it was a bit strange to fight enemy propaganda in this way.
      6. S. Nikolaev
        S. Nikolaev 30 October 2022 19: 08
        +2
        During the Great Patriotic War, radios were confiscated from the population, which were then dismantled and lamps were turned on from them.

        They were seized for a different purpose.
      7. sadam2
        sadam2 30 October 2022 20: 19
        0
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        There is a joke in every joke!

        right now, and refrigerators and washers with Wi-Fi everywhere and everywhere ... I'm still at a loss what components can be kulibin for military use? ... yes, they have the brains of the electronics board ... but the refrigerator is from $ 800
      8. Alexey Lantukh
        Alexey Lantukh 30 October 2022 20: 55
        +2
        In fact, the receivers were seized so that they would not listen to enemy voices.
      9. Ruby
        Ruby 30 October 2022 21: 24
        +2
        During the war, radios were not confiscated for spare parts, but so that the people would not listen to enemy propaganda at night under the covers :) By the way, they did this not only in the USSR.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 30 October 2022 17: 51
      +4
      Buyan - to create a tank, you still have to turn in a dishwasher and a blender, and to create a helicopter, three vacuum cleaners wassat
      1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
        Sergey Aleksandrovich 30 October 2022 18: 24
        -1
        Not funny at all. The same smartphones have a GPS signal reception module. I already have a couple of discard candidate smartphones ready to donate to defense needs.
  7. Boniface
    Boniface 30 October 2022 17: 25
    +2
    Nonsense nonsense!
    as an expert I say
    just unbelievable nonsense wassat
    1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
      Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 18: 04
      +2
      Speak, speak. bully Damn, where did that chip go, all that's left is... feel Oh, nonsense, utter nonsense they carry. yes
    2. stankow
      stankow 30 October 2022 18: 04
      +2
      I confirm. The processor costs dollars, the finished product - hundreds.
  8. Andobor
    Andobor 30 October 2022 17: 27
    +1
    Why publish Western propaganda on VO?
    1. Sergey Aleksandrovich
      Sergey Aleksandrovich 30 October 2022 17: 32
      +4
      At least in order to know what to prepare for. Perhaps, restrictions on the supply of household appliances will go further.
    2. faiver
      faiver 30 October 2022 17: 45
      +9
      Why publish Western propaganda on VO?
      - corner of humor ....
    3. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 30 October 2022 17: 49
      +4
      This is not propaganda, but bullshit. However, this may be a reason for sanctions on the supply of household appliances
      1. Plate
        Plate 30 October 2022 18: 15
        0
        Well, let's see, let's see how they impose sanctions on household appliances. The border with Kazakhstan is 7000 kilometers.
      2. PPD
        PPD 30 October 2022 19: 01
        0
        This is not propaganda, but bullshit

        One does not interfere. Why can't propaganda be bullshit? laughing
        I see no obstacles. wassat
        R s. But the horse is a pity ....
  9. aleksr2005
    aleksr2005 30 October 2022 17: 30
    +6
    How they love to write contemptuous articles about us. I remember from the Olympics in Sochi, how all the Western media wrote nasty things about Sochi's infrastructure, toilets, rooms for athletes, etc. And here again, they say, look, these Papuans even steal tremulous cameras to use in their drones, washing machines for microcircuits, etc.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 30 October 2022 17: 32
      +10
      Not only road. Each tourist from Russia is given a quota - to unscrew 10 video eyes from entrances abroad. They are then molded into Orlans. wassat
      1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
        Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 18: 07
        +4
        Quote: Nexcom
        unscrew 10 video eyes from entrances abroad.
        And if you place 10 of them one after the other, you get a tele-eye. Oh, did I say anything extra? feel
    2. Elena Akinfieva
      Elena Akinfieva 30 October 2022 17: 57
      0
      I envy. Especially those who were in Russia. How we quickly stepped into the digital environment. So, for example, until recently there were queues at the post office with payment for various services, but now there is free wink
  10. Rusik.S
    Rusik.S 30 October 2022 17: 31
    +9
    Tanks of Russia after they began to install chips from household appliances
    1. stankow
      stankow 30 October 2022 18: 07
      +2
      Cast wheel rims - where? laughing Draw pls! it will be great! laughing
      1. PPD
        PPD 30 October 2022 19: 03
        +3
        Alloy wheels are for special occasions only. drinks
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 31 October 2022 06: 16
          +1
          The infernal device turns out. All enemies profusely vrsutsya. yes
  11. Mwg
    Mwg 30 October 2022 17: 31
    +4
    "The European Union is concerned about a sharp surge in exports of household appliances to Russia ..." - this is on purpose, no matter what they say that Russians are going to Ukraine for washing machines and other household appliances. And the export of porcelain from China to the Russian Federation has also grown sharply - this is so that they would not say that Russians from Ukraine steal toilet bowls))))))))
    But seriously, it’s time to quote Lavrov once again ...
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 October 2022 18: 29
      0
      Quote: MVG
      And the export of porcelain from China to the Russian Federation has also grown sharply - this is so that they would not say that Russians from Ukraine steal toilet bowls

      No, it's getting deeper: porcelain dishes are crushed and added as striking elements to faience mines. Faience mines of the Third Reich have been preserved in museums, but they are primitive in comparison. fellow
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 30 October 2022 18: 53
      +1
      Quote: MVG
      it’s time to quote Lavrov once again ...

      Listen to anyone "from there" for a minute and a quote from Lavrov itself begs the tongue.
  12. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 30 October 2022 17: 32
    0
    But what to do?
    The time is right now.
    Household appliances, of course, so-so. But nevertheless, the machine works!
    What do you need to be happy?!.. hi
  13. Duncan
    Duncan 30 October 2022 17: 34
    +2
    The next horror story will be - rockets on chips from a landfill are able to fly to the English Channel!
  14. speed4fun
    speed4fun 30 October 2022 17: 35
    +1
    If so, then we should learn in Europe and the USA to recycle electronics from refrigerators and TVs, and not send them to African countries as garbage for disassembly. I think those who publish this nonsense do not know that China is a neighbor of Russia and chips can be bought on AliExpress.
  15. Hitriy Zhuk
    Hitriy Zhuk 30 October 2022 17: 36
    +1
    Can use.
    Or maybe not use it.
    You know, those Russians...
  16. Skipper
    Skipper 30 October 2022 17: 36
    +6
    They screwed up. We make chips from chips.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 October 2022 18: 33
      +2
      Quote: Skipper
      They screwed up. We make chips from chips.

      We also use chips as rocket fuel.
  17. rocket757
    rocket757 30 October 2022 17: 37
    +1
    Bloomberg: Russia can use microchips from household appliances in the production of weapons
    . Shoi, it’s not noticeable with us that they would throw the call “hand over all the irons and coffee makers” to achieve victory over the enemy fool request
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 October 2022 18: 37
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Shoi, it’s not noticeable with us that they would throw the call “hand over all the irons and coffee makers” to achieve victory over the enemy

      This is how old coal mines are rented out, but go ahead and take this heavy cast iron from trench to trench. laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 October 2022 18: 58
        0
        This is hardly ... a rarity, and where can you find it now?
  18. engineer74
    engineer74 30 October 2022 17: 38
    +3
    I can’t believe that this mess, on serious cabbage soup, is being fed to the population ... recourse Well, that doesn't happen! request
    Or are they very poorly educated?
    PS Although, for 15 years now, "atomic bullets for AK" from the April Fool's "Popular Mechanics" have been walking around with us laughing
    1. stankow
      stankow 30 October 2022 18: 12
      +7
      Personally, Ursula von Leyen, from the rostrum of the European Parliament, echoed this tale (about washing machines). I saw it, I heard it myself! What a fall!! I still can't believe it, but ... the Europeans have come!
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 31 October 2022 06: 17
        0
        This is not the limit - the bottom has not yet been broken through.
  19. Amateur
    Amateur 30 October 2022 17: 39
    +2
    Bloomberg openly steals ideas from the possessed European Fuhrer Ursula.
    “The Russian army is removing chips from dishwashers and refrigerators to fix military equipment. They no longer have semiconductors. Russian industry is torn to shreds!”
    (Ursula von der Leyen addresses the European Parliament on 20.09.2022)
  20. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 30 October 2022 17: 40
    +5
    The smart ones guessed. Yes, we have a "popular movement": I bought a coffee maker, hand over the chip from it to the RF Ministry of Defense. Maybe your chip will deliver a rocket to the address of the journalist who wrote the heresy in Bloomberg. that's how I find the chips in them, Khan America!
  21. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 30 October 2022 17: 47
    +2
    Blessed, there are no words. The degradation of consciousness is not yet complete, but in that direction.
  22. Svetlana
    Svetlana 30 October 2022 17: 49
    +1
    dolboyascher this blomberg.

    Quite recently, I just don’t know the figures for today, Russia produced 4 million. washing machines per year and imported them all over the world. And in Russian warehouses, therefore, there are several million of these chips left and there is no need to remove them from any washer.
    ..
    Yes, the cars were produced under the main foreign brands, but in Russia.
  23. nellyjuri
    nellyjuri 30 October 2022 17: 51
    +3
    I change the chips in the coffee maker to the toilet bowl from Ukraine.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 30 October 2022 18: 01
      +1
      Hmm, forgive my curiosity, but what, in your own toilet bowl of the Saratov plumbing plant, you no longer shit or what? lol
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 30 October 2022 18: 42
        +2
        So not golden.
        Do not put in the red corner. request
      2. nellyjuri
        nellyjuri 31 October 2022 08: 56
        -1
        You are all lying. If there are toilet bowls in houses in Russia, then these are trophy ones from Ukraine. Read the world press. Everyone writes about it there. The most important thing is that they write honestly. Read Lyusya Arestovich. She is an angel in her honesty.
        1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
          Vasilyevich Pensioner 31 October 2022 12: 24
          0
          Quote from nellyjuri
          If there are toilet bowls in houses in Russia, then these are trophy ones from Ukraine.
          And put as an economy option. In the toilets of neighboring apartments, a hole is made and installed in the middle. Then the hole is sealed. Each apartment owner has exactly half of the toilet. This option was tested at the Olympics in Sochi.
  24. Ghost1
    Ghost1 30 October 2022 17: 53
    +3
    A lie bordering on delirium, launched from the Ukrainian side, from those who wrote fairy tales about stolen dog kennels, toilet bowls and similar nonsense. Suppose, if you believe in this nonsense, then no household appliances are needed, you can order the necessary microcircuits under the guise of repairing household appliances, why buy a washing machine, etc., and probably the iron from the washers is remelted and tanks are made from it lol
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 30 October 2022 17: 57
      +4
      Yeah, but we make shells from thermoses, there it’s just to re-compress to the desired caliber and pour explosives inside.

      PS Ou eeeoo, let it slip ... Schaz and a thermos will stop selling us .... wassat
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 30 October 2022 18: 59
        0
        Quote: Nexcom
        and we make shells from thermoses,

        I heard that aluminum cans of Danish beer were collected for the production of shells.
        Only full, from empty shells, some are not so obtained.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 October 2022 18: 45
      +4
      Exactly. We ship nickel and chrome to Italy and Turkey, buy stainless steel sinks there and rivet tanks by melting down. laughing
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 30 October 2022 19: 13
        +3
        Kapets! Well, why the hell did they burn down the sinks - now they will come for stainless steel sinks, take them away ... crying What now, wash the dishes in the bathroom? So they will also come for baths - cast iron is also an important material! wassat
        1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
          Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 19: 16
          +1
          Quote: Nexcom
          and they will also come for baths - cast iron is also an important material!
          You forgot one more thing, if you plug the holes with corks, you can use it at the crossings.
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 30 October 2022 19: 19
            +1
            Yes, what are all the scorchers here? belay now the Navy will definitely confiscate bathtubs with corks. crying
            1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
              Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 19: 27
              +1
              Previously, in public baths there were bars under the legs, no matter how they were seized. The bathtubs thump into the river, and these bars are on them, it is very convenient to quickly cross to the other side. feel
  25. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 30 October 2022 17: 55
    0
    Is it possible to buy separate boards with processors?
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 30 October 2022 19: 12
      +4
      Zaurbek, you are the only one who is looking for an easy way to solve problems wassat
  26. aars
    aars 30 October 2022 17: 55
    +1
    They are really crazy...
    Why, why do we need to desolder microchips when suppliers work almost the same as before?
    https://www.electronshik.ru/
  27. Human_manoid
    Human_manoid 30 October 2022 17: 55
    +1
    But this is definitely the hand of Moscow: marauders pull them out of their apartments and transport them to Russia!
  28. Vyacheslav Borichevsky
    Vyacheslav Borichevsky 30 October 2022 17: 56
    +1
    Alas! Insanity grows stronger day by day!. By the way, Nazi propaganda was of the same type, considering the peoples to be incomplete!. I think for a start they need to watch the cycle of transmissions time ahead !. There is a lot of talk about our electronics in the latest issue!.
  29. Mint Gingerbread
    Mint Gingerbread 30 October 2022 18: 04
    +1
    Why buy many times more expensive household appliances, and then get rid of most of the composition of the goods, when, if desired, you can order from China, tons of various used equipment. They can ship directly by wagons. laughing
  30. Aerolab
    Aerolab 30 October 2022 18: 04
    +6
    Honor and glory to our engineers who can make "Satan" out of lousy western refrigerators.
  31. tralmaster
    tralmaster 30 October 2022 18: 05
    +4
    They believed in a joke, stupid people, where the Russian Vanya disassembled the washing machine, and due to the fact that there were no drawings of it, he assembled the plane and still had spare parts.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 30 October 2022 18: 49
      +2
      Quote: tralmaster
      They believed in a joke, stupid people, where the Russian Vanya disassembled the washing machine, and due to the fact that there were no drawings of it, he assembled the plane and still had spare parts.

      Some very modern Vanya.
      For those that are older, out of everything, only Kalash turned out.
  32. Andrey1966
    Andrey1966 30 October 2022 18: 05
    +1
    So even on Damansky, peaceful Soviet T. combines were used. dual-use technology, you know
  33. kasatky
    kasatky 30 October 2022 18: 16
    +2
    Don't they know??!! We also buy incandescent bulbs in bulk, wrap them in foil and get vacuum diodes and triodes. We have satellite communications and computers and artificial intelligence built on them ... In a cold climate, this is the most effective solution: in a tank, in an airplane, in a rocket - it is always warm and light. Even in Caliber and Iskander, the pilot seats are very cozy and comfortable.
    1. stankow
      stankow 30 October 2022 18: 36
      0
      laughing lol
      ..............................
  34. ivan2022
    ivan2022 30 October 2022 18: 17
    +3
    The old joke is the opposite. Refaced.

    There was such an anecdote that the Japanese bought electronics in the USSR in order to use wooden packaging boards. As if they couldn't just buy boards. And the suckers who believed seriously - it was immeasurable.
    1. stankow
      stankow 30 October 2022 18: 41
      +2
      In the 80s, Bulgaria exported electric cars and motocars to Japan. Well, we worked, we managed to break into the market, we had a lot of lead and zinc. Lead production slag was poured for counterweight. To this day liberals claim that I bought them to extract the lead. Hundreds of times they were explained - no, they are on their own ...
  35. Tagan
    Tagan 30 October 2022 18: 17
    +1
    Quote: Piramidon
    I have a bunch of old cell phones lying around. Tell me how to assemble "Geranium" from them?

    Can we meet at Krasukha?
  36. Skif
    Skif 30 October 2022 18: 17
    +2
    Here it is! However, if you shove a grenade into the breast pump and paint it green, you can get a super-bomb.
    1. Skif
      Skif 30 October 2022 18: 19
      0
      Actually, I did not write "here ...", but "here are not the smartest people who are next to not smart people at all". Phew! Is it clearer to the moderator?
  37. Tor Vic
    Tor Vic 30 October 2022 18: 20
    0
    Well, how stupid they are! dbl blt
  38. carpenter
    carpenter 30 October 2022 18: 21
    0
    At the same time, she referred to "authoritative Ukrainian experts."


    Well then, there is no doubt that these and electric toothpicks and coffee makers will be found in Caliber.
  39. Luenkov
    Luenkov 30 October 2022 18: 22
    +1
    However, as you can see, everything is painful. Level converters can be everywhere, not to mention register chips. Why just pull it all out of everyday life? Mikhail Zadornov was 100% right!
  40. Mint Gingerbread
    Mint Gingerbread 30 October 2022 18: 26
    +4
    Magazine "Young and not very technical". How to assemble "Geranium-2".
    Hello, young and not very technical, today we will assemble the Geran-2 UAV. To do this, we need the following household appliances. The engine from the washing machine LG, Bosch, etc., and its control unit. Camcorders and chips from Samsung, Apple phones ...
  41. denk20
    denk20 30 October 2022 18: 28
    0
    Will someone tell them a joke about a chopper with an optical sight and a harvester with a vertical take-off?

    Lavrov. jpg
  42. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 30 October 2022 18: 30
    0
    That's why I think that after the repair, the choice of microwave power stopped working .. wassat
  43. mihey
    mihey 30 October 2022 18: 31
    +1
    Kulibins are solid: household appliances were converted into UAVs, toilet bowls are put on a flower bed as vases ... I wonder when they ate hedgehogs, where did the needles go?
  44. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 30 October 2022 18: 35
    0
    Forgot about toilets. Probably the toilets in Ukraine also have chips.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 31 October 2022 06: 22
      +1
      Japans have electronic toilets - heated, radio, auto-flush, auto-wash. Electronics there - yo-mae. That's why they don't sell them to us - they know that we will pull out all the microcircuits and we will go in the old way, like in a regular toilet.
      We saw that we get a double benefit - we get electronics and a toilet bowl lol for the price of a toilet.
  45. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 30 October 2022 18: 38
    -2
    I wanted to read the original. I read something. This Bloomberg - those guys. If you do not want to subscribe, then they give out an article in four lines. You get tired of reading. Something to be patient with. As a result, I saw a possible corruption problem. Not for them, but for us. When V. Putin privatized the defense industry, businessmen came there. And it looks like they've turned around. I don't blame them for using foreign components. This is understandable, and may even be justified. But did the customer (state) know about it? And if he knew, was the backlog bought in a timely manner? And if it was not bought, then who will be responsible for it now? In fact, now you can’t buy an entire refrigerator because of one chip. Here Bloomberg once again went under himself - those are still debs. We have a bad situation with the defense industry. Very bad. Especially after privatization. And Rogozin and Borisov managed to stir things up in this already troubled water.
  46. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 30 October 2022 18: 59
    +2
    European officials fear that microchips from refrigerators and washing machines in Russia are being used to manufacture military equipment,
    An old and familiar "song"! Back in the days of the USSR, the Union was accused of buying electronic household equipment, electronic toys in the "West" in order to pick out microprocessors from there! feel
  47. DO
    DO 30 October 2022 19: 15
    +1
    European officials fear that microchips from refrigerators and washing machines in Russia are being used to manufacture military equipment, which is then used in Ukraine.

    :)))))))))))))))))))))
    Well, I would understand if these idiots were talking about smartphones, processors for which they cannot make in Russia yet. But refrigerators and washing machines use microcontrollers, which are quite produced in Russian factories. And having picked out the chip from the washer, where then to put so much iron? It’s not a version to melt into tanks, because there’s something, but there is enough iron in Russia.
  48. Sergey39
    Sergey39 30 October 2022 19: 20
    +2
    How not to remember the name of the film in relation to this situation!
    "Stupid, dumber!"
  49. Popov I.P.
    Popov I.P. 30 October 2022 19: 24
    +3
    Blomberg throws in a base propaganda canard, and this song is sung by some Western politicians and even some of our media. But in fact, since the times of the USSR, there have been closed documents of the Military-Industrial Commission of the USSR, which are also valid in the Russian Federation, prohibiting the use of imported element base in military and special-purpose equipment. At the same time, one exception is allowed: at the stage of development and testing of weapons and military equipment, with the obligatory adoption of measures to organize the production of domestic analogues by the time mass production of weapons and military equipment begins. Do they seriously believe that the control systems of the "Statan" ICBM, S-300 missile defense system, 3m-45 "Granit" anti-ship missiles, communication systems, etc. from the times of the USSR were based on imported element base? The USSR and the Russian Federation have fully learned the lessons from the military conflicts in Libya, Iraq, Yugoslavia, and others, when foreign RRS, SCS, radar and other weapons and military equipment suddenly stopped working as if on cue. The Angstrem and Mikron enterprises operate in the Russian Federation, producing domestic military electronics (our allies have the same enterprises), perhaps they may not be able to produce some kind of superchips yet (for the same dimensions in Nm, speed or memory ), but modern ICBMs, OTRK, KR are still not small pocket cell phones, especially since most of them began to be developed decades ago. Another thing is that in the same Donbass, at the tactical level, in addition to regular planned deliveries of weapons and military equipment from the RF Ministry of Defense, the same quaracopters, radio stations, sights, etc. get as sponsorship from caring people. general civilian purpose, at this level it is a consumable item that allows you to look into the same trenches and dugouts of the Nazis, and sometimes hit them. Here in these wreckage you can really find anything. In general, it’s time for Western politicians to stop talking nonsense about refrigerators and washing machines and not to make laugh those who are at least a little competent in this, the same Mrs. von der Lein (a gynecologist by education) is better to look into those organs for which she is a certified specialist than to look for traces of household appliances in the remains of rockets.
    1. hector
      hector 30 October 2022 19: 40
      +2
      Quote: Popov I.P.
      the same Mrs. von der Lein (a gynecologist by training) is better off looking into those organs for which she is a certified specialist, than looking for traces of household appliances in the remains of rockets.

      good laughing My thoughts were voiced
  50. svit55
    svit55 30 October 2022 19: 27
    +3
    My wife read it, says - "I donate a food processor and an electric meat grinder for military needs, just don't touch the washer and coffee grinder")) patriot!))))
    1. Vasilyevich Pensioner
      Vasilyevich Pensioner 30 October 2022 19: 30
      +1
      Quote: svit55
      just don’t touch the washer and coffee grinder")) patriot!))))
      This is where private ownership began to emerge!!! And somewhere in the fields the tank stood up. You can also drink instant coffee, not a bar.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 31 October 2022 06: 25
        +1
        Otozh! That's all the small kulaks and surfaced! Unpatriotic. How so - squeezed the coffee grinders?