Russian Armed Forces destroyed the Special Operations Forces Training Center in Ochakovo

Russia responded to Ukraine on the Saturday attack of the ships of the Black Sea fleetby hitting high-precision weapons at the training center for special operations forces of the Ukrainian Navy in Ochakiv. According to the Ministry of Defense, the center has been destroyed.

According to available information, the Russian Armed Forces carried out an attack on the Naval Forces of Ukraine base in Ochakovo, where the Training Center for the MTR of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is located, it is reported that the communications center and other facilities on the base were destroyed. Previously, the Center worked drones-kamikaze "Geranium-2". Earlier it was reported that Russian "Geran" went in the direction of Ochakov and Odessa, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine traditionally reported on their destruction, but apparently not all of them were destroyed.

According to the military department, it was at the MTR Training Center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that British instructors trained Ukrainian military personnel in the management of naval drones, which were used to attack Sevastopol. By the way, the drones were also supplied by Britain. In general, the center in Ochakovo was built by the Americans and the British precisely for conducting special operations against the Black Sea Fleet, the presence of Ukrainian Navy units there was only a cover.

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defense reported that they had lifted from the bottom of the wreckage of naval drones used to attack ships on Saturday morning. According to the study of the remnants of drones, it was possible to establish that they were taken out along the "green corridor" for a grain deal, after which they changed the route towards Crimea. It is assumed that they were taken out on one of the civilian ships "chartered by Kyiv or its Western patrons for the export of agricultural products."

It is worth noting that the Russian Armed Forces have already launched strikes on Ochakovo, in June two small missile boats of the Ukrainian Navy, brought from Odessa to prepare an attack on Snake Island, were destroyed there. At the same time, it was reported that the special operations center built in Ochakovo, designed to monitor the operational situation in the Black Sea and transmit information to the United States and NATO, was no longer functioning. As it turned out, the information about its destruction was premature.

Comments

[SKVichyakow]

Have the English been screwed over? It's been a good day.

[mitrich]

And this is your attack, in this topic, and? Like, a good mine with a bad game?
Minus from me, it's a pity that there is only one.

[Alexander Soviet Union]

What was the matter? Volunteer and make a good game. The army only welcomes such maximalists and their ideas, especially if they are put into practice by the authors themselves.

[mitrich]

And then, as if in a puddle, the lane blew. Again, I missed the topic. What, on the same wavelength with a can? Just to blurt out anything?

[Vita vko]

Quote: SKVichyakow

Have the English been screwed over? Good

If only there was a squeal now ... They run away immediately, sometimes in advance.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Vita VKO

They run away immediately, sometimes in advance.

So it is understandable, only a fool will sit and wait for an answer.
I'm worried about the question, where is our intelligence, agents, why couldn't they have done it in advance?

[vvn_vl]

they were waiting for the boat to be dragged to Kronstadt

[4ekist]

This center in the city of Ochakovo is being destroyed for the third or fourth time. With such results, we will continue to destroy it.

[Lionnvrsk]

Yes you are right..
First time in April.
"On the evening of April 4, a sea-based high-precision long-range weapon near the city of Ochakiv destroyed a training center for Ukrainian special operations forces," Konashenkov said.
Then again in July, as stated in the article above.
Then there was another destruction in September.
https://topwar.ru/201909-v-ochakove-unichtozhen-shtab-i-baza-centra-podgotovki-sil-specialnyh-operacij-jug-vms-ukrainy.html#comment-id-12867724

[lisyara]

Well, it’s not vigorous, but they threw it
although yes, I agree - it was worth it once back in April to gasp.

[Alexey Lantukh]

Drones alone are unlikely to be able to destroy. There should be a massive raid, the finale of which should be carpet bombing with heavy bombs on especially important objects, better than the FAB 500.

[lelik613]

It is not the walls that are fighting, but people who are already far away ...

[Jarilo]

why couldn't it have been done earlier?

Partners. We still pay them a lot of money by the way. They didn't freeze anything. The export of capital is a record this year. Nabiulina and Siluanov exceed the plan by 200%. Apparently they are waiting for another award from partners - the Best Economist of the World, the Best Accountant of the Universe.

[Charik]

This is when? They started building there in the year 14-15, if my memory does not fail me.

[dmi.pris1]

In general, after yesterday's attack, everything should be evacuated there. Which one, having struck, will stand with his mouth open, waiting for an answer. It is necessary to demolish the Kyiv top.

[mitrich]

As usual, they struck into the void and reported, retribution was carried out.

[ilya.muromczev2013]

No one "hit into the void" - they hit where they needed to. Another thing is that the enemy can either restore what was destroyed or create a new one. So, you need to destroy more, and more. What is being done...

[Thrifty]

So, who is here from the cespo of Odessa, we condole with you

[Baloo]

Counselor and main speaker of the OP of Ukraine Oleksiy Arestovich named the shadow features of the Ukrainian national character: it is “redneck” and “inhuman cruelty.” Since such conflicts were a constant backdrop for the formation of a national character, our collective Shadow went this way.
Arestovich also deduces the formula of “rednecking”: aggressive confidence in one’s total rightness + avoiding even the thought of the opponent’s possible rightness + the ability to insult without crossing a decisive line, after which the interaction turns into murder.
Well, "inhuman cruelty" does not need comments.
The whole essence of the Khokhlyatsky Jewish Bandera mentality. I note that it was not I who said Arestovich. It's hard not to agree.

[mitrich]

Why did he succeed? What caused, once again, damage to the World Cup of the Navy? This is at least the third major blow to our Navy in the Black Sea.
And what is described here is so, a blow to the tails. On the heads of our watered and military bosses to beat syko.tno.

[Fisherman]

immediately the question ripened: and before that, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, why did the snot drive? Was it really impossible to burn them BEFORE the terrorist attack in Sevastopol? We always like to play catch-up ... hence the loss in hp on the fronts, until the need for drones reached the leadership of the Army, while they began to swing their development and launched production - EIGHT months have passed, paid for by the blood of our boys, on which the enemy copters pointed artillery and threw off mines and grenades ... everything through w... some generals do and do not take care of our guys ... and Lobaev? only Kalashnikov smelled a powerful competitor in him, whose blood barrels are exactly what army snipers need - they immediately launched ... a check on Lobaev, blocking all production at once ... it’s good that the public rose up and Rostec was handed from above. What is sitting upstairs and spoiling VICTORY in such difficult times?

[ilya.muromczev2013]

If everything was so simple (and it wouldn’t even cost a penny for the budget) - probably, everything would have been destroyed long ago. However, this happens only in dreams (especially if the "entire civilized world" helps the enemy, and its number in manpower exceeds 2,5 - 3 times) ...

[Russophile]

Looks like no. A former colleague from Ochakov said: it banged only after everyone dristanuli from the object. He cursed that it happens so often with us - first they will tell who, where, they will pause, then they beat, as if they were deliberately giving time for the enemies to leave ...

[Joker62]

Quote: SKVichyakow

Have the English been screwed over? It's been a good day.

It is better to raze these Englishmen to the ground, so that it would not be habitual for others!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Joker62

It is better to raze these Englishmen to the ground, so that it would not be habitual for others!

It would be better on their island territory, but that's great!

the center in Ochakovo was built by the Americans and the British specifically for conducting special operations against the Black Sea Fleet, the presence of Ukrainian Navy units there was only a cover.

A similar center was being built in Sevastopol before its abrupt annexation to Russia.
=> And Ochakov needs to be attached. To avoid relapse.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Joker62

It is better to raze these Englishmen to the ground,

did you mean water?

[rocket757]

Russian Armed Forces destroyed the Special Operations Forces Training Center in Ochakovo

. It seems to me that this has already happened ... the training center in Ochakovo has already ... been destroyed ???
Such objects are destroyed by I ... massive bombardments, nothing less!

[Cananecat]

Quote: rocket757

It seems to me that this has already happened ... the training center in Ochakovo has already ... been destroyed ???

At the very beginning, the SVO was calibrated, but it was necessary to dagger.

[rocket757]

It’s not clear, it’s strange ... although, there’s a bit too much strange in general.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: rocket757

It’s not clear, it’s strange ... although, there’s a bit too much strange in general.

Even too much

[gabs]

This center should have been razed to the ground a long time ago, but we are all waiting for something.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: rocket757

already ... destroyed ???

So, according to the reports of the Ministry of Defense, we have already knocked out all Ukrainian equipment twice, taking into account the supplies of "partners"!

[rocket757]

Statistics from any side ... in general, who is good for what. Nothing new, unusual, such that no one has done before, and even now.
What matters is the end result.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: rocket757

Statistics from any side

Yes, in a war, each side downplays its own losses and exaggerates those of others. Alas, it was and always will be.

[rocket757]

It's funny ... does anyone have something to show against?
It seems like common truths and evidence no longer require!

[international]

There was also a biological laboratory in Ochakovo. Therefore, thermobaric bombs would destroy the infection.

[rocket757]

The biologist was cleaned up and so, they had time.

[Buyan]

Great news, they would send more of them to Bandera

[dmi.pris1]

But it’s interesting. How much and what? Logically, there shouldn’t be anyone there.

[Alexander Rasmukhambetov]

And that they didn’t know before that there was a training base there, they had to wait until they struck Sevastopol, they sit there and wait for you to start bombing them. The rake never ends.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Alexander Rasmukhambetov

And that they didn’t know before that there was a training base, they had to wait until they struck at Sevastopol,

It is one thing to report an SVR, another thing is documented data.

The Ministry of Defense reported that they had recovered from the bottom of the wreckage of naval drones used to attack ships on Saturday morning. According to the study of the remnants of drones, it was possible to establish that they were taken out along the "green corridor" for a grain deal, after which they changed the route towards Crimea. It is assumed that they were taken out on one of the civilian ships "chartered by Kyiv or its Western patrons for the export of agricultural products."

[carpenter]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

along the "green corridor" for a grain deal, after which they changed the route towards Crimea.

Well, it is clear that they were brought not by land only by a cargo ship, and literally a few miles to Sevastopol. They missed again - where is the corridor and where is Sevastopol.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: Alexander Rasmukhambetov

And that they didn’t know before that there was a training base there, they had to wait until they struck Sevastopol, they sit there and wait for you to start bombing them. The rake never ends.

So they know that in Kyiv, in the building of the SBU, a whole floor is occupied by specialists from the CIA, MI-6, and other Western special services.
But we don't strike. Apparently we do not want to disturb the peace of the "partners".

[Prokop_Pork]

After yesterday's warning, hardly anyone was left to wait for an answer.

[Dartanian]

It’s hard to believe it’s a fresh story .... They lied so much in the Moscow Region that probably Nikiforovna and grandmothers in the yard will tell the truth .....

[rotkiv04]

everything is strange in this SVO, the civilian infrastructure is being ironed, and the MTR centers remain intact to this day, it turns out they would not have been touched if there hadn’t been an attack on the Black Sea Fleet, well, the warriors in the General Staff, it seems they don’t make friends with their heads at all, what kind of strategy is there may be

[valera75]

Quote: rotkiv04

everything is strange in this SVO, the civilian infrastructure is being ironed, and the MTR centers remain intact to this day, it turns out they would not have been touched if there hadn’t been an attack on the Black Sea Fleet, well, the warriors in the General Staff, it seems they don’t make friends with their heads at all, what kind of strategy is there may be

Civilian infrastructure is being destroyed very carefully to this day. And yes, we know everything, but we are waiting for answers when they sink something or commit a terrorist attack with victims.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: rotkiv04

everything is strange in this SVO, the civilian infrastructure is being ironed, and the MTR centers remain intact to this day, it turns out they would not have been touched if there hadn’t been an attack on the Black Sea Fleet, well, the warriors in the General Staff, it seems they don’t make friends with their heads at all, what kind of strategy is there may be

In fact, these are dual-use structures and are considered legal targets for destruction.
I agree with the rest.

[Tagan]

Quote: rocket757

Russian Armed Forces destroyed the Special Operations Forces Training Center in Ochakovo

. It seems to me that this has already happened ... the training center in Ochakovo has already ... been destroyed ???
Such objects are destroyed by I ... massive bombardments, nothing less!

The video was. Last time they were seriously smeared. They probably decided that it doesn’t fall into the same funnel twice.))

[Comrade I]

Well done! Destroyed the already destroyed center! Well, just to be sure.

https://topwar.ru/194474-minoborony-zajavilo-ob-unichtozhenii-centra-podgotovki-ukrainskih-sil-specialnyh-operacij-v-rajone-ochakova.html

[Buyan]

Quote: dmi.pris

But it’s interesting. How much and what? Logically, there shouldn’t be anyone there.

Well, they have the ability to recover, unfortunately

[Non-fighter]

According to the study of the remnants of drones, it was possible to establish that they were taken out along the "green corridor" for a grain deal, after which they changed the route towards Crimea.

Specialists, tell us how it was possible to find out about this from the wreckage?

[AC130 Gunship]

If the memory card is intact, there will be a record.

[Alexander Grigoryev_2]

I don't think so. There is no flash drive with a route record.

[lwxx]

Quote: Not the fighter

According to the study of the remnants of drones, it was possible to establish that they were taken out along the "green corridor" for a grain deal, after which they changed the route towards Crimea.

Specialists, tell us how it was possible to find out about this from the wreckage?

Yes, you don't have to be a specialist here. According to the power plant, engine, the remains of navigation schemes, you can set the range, time of operation, etc. The circle of release of the apparatus is narrowing, the imposition on the routes of passage of ships and ala op-coincidence. This is not a "Poseidon" with unlimited action.

[nikolas 83]

I’m not special. They write on the cart that they lifted the control units from the bottom and pulled out information about the coordinates of the movement of the unmanned boat.

[carpenter]

Quote: Not the fighter

Specialists, tell us how it was possible to find out about this from the wreckage?

The drones were equipped with navigation equipment, the whole route is calculated "from and to". They probably took the drone out on a dry cargo ship, with a transfer to a trawler and then on their own to Sevastopol.

[Yapet100]

The answer from our side is worthy!!! The only thing I would like is for our intelligence to work at least a little ahead of the curve.

[CYM]

Quote: SKVichyakow

Have the English been screwed over?

IMHO Hardly, they hit the road for sure. The British need to poke around in Devonport, Clyde, Portsmouth, otherwise they have completely lost their shores.

[isergil]

They are already sitting in Odessa, presumably. And go get them there. The city is large, even with the suburbs. I think that there is a base in Chernomorsk.
Chernomorsk as it is
Chernomorsk - air alert! 17.43

[RoTTor]

As it turned out, the information about its destruction was premature.-
another ... the eleventh time they destroy it, and then, in response to a strike on Sevastopol.
Just like the crooks in the "Prisoner of the Caucasus" account for what they have drunk and eaten.

[carpenter]

It is assumed that they were taken out on one of the civilian ships "chartered by Kyiv or its Western patrons for the export of agricultural products."

When I said this after the "grain deal", I learned a lot of things that were not flattering.

[ximkim]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: Vita VKO

They run away immediately, sometimes in advance.

So it is understandable, only a fool will sit and wait for an answer.
I'm worried about the question, where is our intelligence, agents, why couldn't they have done it in advance?

Optimized.

[Carlos Hall]

The grain export deal was treason

[Ulan.1812]

Quote from Carlos Sala

The grain export deal was treason

We also need to sell grain and fertilizer.
Dill probably all the grain has already been taken out. There have never been 20 million tons there.
That's why they hit Sevastopol, they knew that Russia would withdraw from the deal and it would be possible to accuse Russia of disrupting the deal and hide the shortage.

[Rakitin]

Even when this "deal" was in the process of being discussed, there were insiders that the main motive with the Russians. on the other hand - the lifting of the complete blockade of Kaliningrad by Lithuania. Judging by the fact that there is no complete blockade of Kaliningrad now, this version is the main one.
Well, let's not forget that it is not "Ukrainian grain" that is exported, but the products of American agricultural holdings, produced by their subsidiaries in Ukraine, which control 40% of Ruina's agricultural production.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Reached out, redheads. For some reason, English is all red, like station dogs.

[ASM]

The Black Sea coast must be taken, otherwise new sabotage is possible in the future.

[Alexander Grigoryev_2]

What forces to take? No one knew about the APU. And it is.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote from A.S.M.

The Black Sea coast must be taken, otherwise new sabotage is possible in the future.

And someone did not like your correct proposal.
Tsipsoshnikov do not sleep.

[petrol cutter]

Well done of course.
And how did it happen that Ochakov became an enemy region. Executive Committee??!
After all, it has been reported for twenty years. Me, including. Six years...

[Elena Akinfieva]

Judging by the latest briefings from the MoD, the APU is already having problems with tanks. Mostly armored vehicles of all stripes and pickups.

[valera75]

Russia responded to Ukraine's attack on Saturday by Black Sea Fleet ships by hitting the training center for special operations forces of the Ukrainian Navy in Ochakiv with precision-guided weapons. According to the Ministry of Defense, the center has been destroyed.

Answered? And Russia will always only answer? We will sink the ship and we will respond with a couple of geraniums? If everyone knew where and whom and when they trained, then why do we answer and not preempt?

[kill the fascist]

KHE-KHE, cleared his throat. I have a question: why was this center not destroyed in the previous 8 months of the NWO? Were they waiting for them to strike and scatter in holes?

[g_ae]

And before, well, there was no way to do it. Does the intelligence of the Russian Federation work at all, or is it sluggishly snarling at slaps in the face?
And here is what they write from the places.
"Solnechny Berdyansk, the most prosperous city in new regions within the Russian Federation.
The more honest the administration of the city in the new territories, on the one hand, the faster peaceful life starts there.

But just as quickly, the leaders of this administration may pay for it with life, health and freedom.

I drove through almost all the major cities in the liberated territories and the most well-groomed, liveliest and most prosperous city there is Berdyansk. The breath of war is almost not felt there, cafes, restaurants, shops are working, enterprises have been launched, and production is being launched.

This is a city where there is electricity, gas, water and all other amenities for residents. A city where the local administration really prepared for the heating season on its own, and even actively repairs roads and lays new asphalt on its own.

This city was to be taken under control with the highest quality and as quickly as possible, with only one shot at the head office of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

We are lucky that the group that led this administration consists of the most honest and competent people.

Such was the killed DRG of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Deputy Mayor Oleg Boyko, a strong and honest man.

But today it is not about him, but about another strong and honest man, the deputy head of the administration of Berdyansk, Alexei Vasiliev.

A native of Dnepropetrovsk, who, for ideological reasons, left for Crimea in 2014, where he lived a quiet life, built a house and led excursions. But when his new, real homeland, Russia, called him to risk himself and his life, to repay her debt, in new territories, he went.

I went, ready to build a New Russia of the Future in Berdyansk, despite the risk of being killed and maimed by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

But, he clearly did not expect a stab in the back.

In Bedyansk there is a local oligarch, a former deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, Alexander Ponomarev, as he was called in Ukraine - the prince of Berdyansk.

Ponomarev (unlike hundreds of other businessmen) refused to communicate with the new city administration, all this time did not pay taxes to the city treasury, and also sabotaged the establishment of the peace process in the city in every possible way.

A few months ago, the administration was forced to introduce management
at the petrochemical companies NPP Agrinol LLC and PJSC Azmol, as well as the machine-building company PJSC Berdyansk Zhatki, located in the Zaporozhye region and owned by
billionaire Ponomarev.

This decision was made by the Interdepartmental Commission for the Coordination of the Institute of Provisional Administrations of the Military-Civilian Administrations of the Zaporozhye Region following the results of an inspection of the activities of enterprises. The reason for its holding was the dishonesty of their owner. The enterprises did not work, although there was everything necessary for their loading and, most importantly, the region needed their products.

Ponomarev thought for a couple of months and went to Moscow to negotiate. There he received a Russian passport, but, apparently, agreed on his own terms.

Because upon his arrival, Alexei Vasiliev was detained and put in a cell on a fabricated case of car theft.

Local structures say that they received instructions from above not to interfere.

Everyone who knows Alexei knows that he was always meticulously honest. Exactly PEDANTIC! Not a ruble! Never!

And everyone who communicated with him both before and during his term in the administration knows that he lived on one small salary, rented an apartment in an inexpensive house and drove an old car.

Against the background of the above, I have a question !!?

Will the Russian Federation ever become Russia from Corporation-RF!?

Why are the desires of the Ukrainian oligarch, who agreed to swear allegiance to Moscow in conditions when he had no other choice, more important than the rights of a REAL RUSSIAN PATRIOT who faithfully serves his Motherland !!?

When you are at war, you must be sure that you will not be stabbed in the back! Sure!!!

Russia has no right to hit its defenders in the back. Otherwise, everyone who defends her will tremble.
Listen, officials in high offices, otherwise everyone will falter!!!"

[Ural resident]

It's amazing that it's just now destroyed. There have long been statements that saboteurs are being trained there, and even territorially under their very noses. The question is - intelligence did not know ?, Intelligence knew, but analysts considered that this was not an important target? or something else interfered, because, as it turns out, it was not difficult to destroy.

[Ulan.1812]

Good, but not enough. Previously, this had to be done, and not only with geraniums, but with iskanders and zero calibers.
But as they say, better late than never.

[g_ae]

Most likely there were already bare walls. And the British were definitely not there anymore, so it's more like a blow after a fight to report back.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: g_ae

Most likely there were already bare walls. And the British were definitely not there anymore, so it's more like a blow after a fight to report back.

So I say that before it was necessary to raze all this to the ground.
However, this is what many here rightly say.

[former soldier]

Here is the answer to the question: where did the drones fly to Sevastopol from?

[Eduard_Adolfovich]

And these are not the forces that launched underwater drones in Sevastopol? Well, hi don’t climb and it will always be so!

[faterdom]

I don’t think that the British were sitting right there, because the expected step, and on the Internet yesterday painted by all and sundry. Now, if a day before the attack on Sevastopol, or even better, three hours, that would be great.

[jovanni]

At the same time, it was reported that the special operations center built in Ochakovo, designed to monitor the operational situation in the Black Sea and transmit information to the United States and NATO, was no longer functioning. As it turned out, the information about its destruction was premature.

It’s just some kind of hydra, not the center ... God forbid that this time in real life it was like that, as they reported. Now, if only with l / s and instructors ...

[yuriy1863]

Let's hope that the center in Ochakovo is completely destroyed.

[thrush68]

Why after the blows and not before????? what kind of frugality in relation to these children of women of easy virtue?????

[Alebedev]

And how many more such centers have been built in Ukraine, where foreign military men train our enemies, and which we know about, but do not destroy them?

[Sergey S.]

Quote: g_ae

Why are the desires of the Ukrainian oligarch, who agreed to swear allegiance to Moscow in conditions when he had no other choice, more important than the rights of a REAL RUSSIAN PATRIOT who faithfully serves his Motherland !!?

When you are at war, you must be sure that you will not be stabbed in the back! Sure!!!

This is a reason to apply to the ONF.
I would like to believe that at least there are honest people in it who will understand the situation.
It's very serious. In fact, it is about trust in power.
Such questions cannot be silenced or glossed over.

[AndrewMv]

Can't you do it ahead of time?

[Amper]

Quote: LIONnvrsk

Yes you are right..
First time in April.
"On the evening of April 4, a sea-based high-precision long-range weapon near the city of Ochakiv destroyed a training center for Ukrainian special operations forces," Konashenkov said.
Then again in July, as stated in the article above.
Then there was another destruction in September.
https://topwar.ru/201909-v-ochakove-unichtozhen-shtab-i-baza-centra-podgotovki-sil-specialnyh-operacij-jug-vms-ukrainy.html#comment-id-12867724

The author needs to correct the title - the Russian Armed Forces once again destroyed the Special Operations Forces Training Center in Ochakovo ... Naval version of Kanashenko's report on the destruction of Ukrainian aviation

[Two]

Russia responded to Ukraine on the Saturday attack of the ships of the Black Sea Fleet, hitting the training center of the special operations forces of the Ukrainian Navy in Ochakov with high-precision weapons. the enemy is carried out) and we strike only after the horror attack on us.

[shinobi]

I don’t think that ours missed or didn’t finish the center. Most likely, the NATO troops restored the object after the spring strike.
PS: I don’t know how, but the use of the term kamikaze drone jars me. In international circulation, a more accurate designation of this kind of high-precision weapon is used.

[sgr291158]

And what had to wait until they sent drones at us. Why didn't this center roll out earlier.

[next322]

Quote: sgr291158

Why didn't this center roll out earlier.

this is a question from the field, why bridges and tunnels in the Western region are not destroyed, why weapons are freely supplied from Poland, Romania, Slovakia ..... but this is a taboo topic

[Seraphimamur]

Indeed, in the summer they wrote that a center built by the Americans was destroyed in Ochakovo. It turned out not. Or were there several? Or is Konashenko hanging noodles on his ears? Here I am always confused by the numbers of losses of Nazi personnel voiced by him. Where does he get them from? The fact that a tank or other equipment was knocked out there can be seen through binoculars or from a drone, but what about a dryer? And there are losses from artillery, there are not only corpses, but fragments of bodies lying around in the bushes. Who counts them and how and then reports them for Kanashenko to voice? Maybe the situation is the same with information about the defeat and destruction of certain "centers" and objects? Well, a shell hit, they raked out the garbage and closed up the hole. And that's all? In Donetsk, houses and apartments are being restored...

[bratchanin]

I noticed that Kanashenko has a magic number in terms of VSUshnvm losses - "200". For example, in such a direction, the Armed Forces of Ukraine lost 200 militants, or 200 militants were lost ....

[bratchanin]

They didn’t do one thing, they didn’t take into account the other. It’s good that the sailor didn’t sleep through the drone attack on the military base, otherwise the base would have been torn apart like the Moscow cruiser. How childish, not professional. There was hope that a serious system was guarding the military base, but it turned out to be a sailor on duty (honor to him and glory that he did not sleep through the attack) .....

[Seraphimamur]

It is already becoming our national pastime to destroy this Center. I think the Armed Forces will support the initiative and destroy it again by the New Year.

[fax66]

But I’m wondering - on the Kakhovka reservoir, we are also waiting for the next (What number?) Landing will be successful?
And then the Ministry of Defense will bravo report who, where, when they prepared this landing, declare which all the capitalists are bad, and "destroy" some object that the type had not even guessed before ...

[gafovec]

In my opinion, Konashenkov already reported in the summer about the destruction of this center.

[Bayun]

"Mandela effect"? It was destroyed in February 2022. Although, in 8 months they could restore ...

[Joker62]

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It is better to raze these Englishmen to the ground,

did you mean water?

They will go under the water anyway, like an island and so dirty little people ....

[Charik]

Shaw, again?__________________________________________

[Petr_Koldunov]

If my memory serves me correctly, it was destroyed in the first days, along with the base in Ochakovo, the second time - in the summer... and now for the third time it was razed to the ground??? Oh, this center! Hydra - and only...

[Altmann]

Russian forces showed vigilance and vigilance. It seems that with General Surovkin a new discipline and order appeared. All this is important for our army.

[Valery 1966]

And when the tunnels are taken care of, this is very important for supplying the Ukrainian Front.

[Postcode]

You need to be very careful in terminology. “Destroyed” means that it cannot be restored, repaired, etc. Well, we couldn’t “destroy” anything there, we could inflict fire damage, as a result of which we were taken out of standing, whatever, by destroying several elements of the object. To destroy this center, you need to plant about 20 - 30 calibers there, or one, but extremely small nuclear weapon. Again, what is a MTR center - it’s not even technology as such, it’s people, specialists.