Why was the modernization of the Russian army slowed down?

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Modernization of the Russian army remains the subject of heated debate. On the one hand, there are people who are convinced that the unprecedented funding allocated for the renewal of the country's military-technical potential and a sharp increase in the monetary allowance of military personnel is an unbearable burden for the Russian budget. On the other hand, there are people who directly link the degree of quality of the country's defense with material investments in this industry.

Why was the modernization of the Russian army slowed down?


One of the most active supporters of the idea that today has not yet come to modernize the Russian army on a serious scale was and continues to be former Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin, who is confident that reform plans for the Armed Forces should be supported by sustainable economic growth. Kudrin himself at one time repeatedly expressed the idea that a trillion-dollar investment in the modernization of the Russian army could literally bury the Russian economy. It is this position and the rather open criticism of the actions of top Russian leaders that served as the reasons for dismissing Mr. Kudrin from his post.

Yesterday, the “Military Review” started talking about the activities of Alexei Kudrin at the present time, about ordering some strange sociological study of revolutionary sentiments in Russian society, and some readers said they did not see a reason to consider the activities of Mr. Kudrin’s personality. The opinion, of course, is interesting, but it is difficult to call it constructive. Why? Because recently there has been noticeable activity on the part of the former Minister of Finance, who outwardly occupies a political niche, thanks to which he is seen by many as a possible “returnee” to one or another segment of the Russian government. In other words, in one form or another, Aleksey Leonidovich, who in certain circles was called, almost, not a financial guru, could return to the slopes of the political Olympus.

If so, then what can such a “comeback” turn out to be for Russia as a whole and the modernization aspirations of the authorities in terms of the development of the Russian army in particular. The fact is that Kudrin is not just an economist who is separately pulled from some political context. By the word "Kudrin" one should understand the collective image of an economic specialist, who for a long time held in his hands the levers of regulation of the financial system. For several years, this “collective image” led the Russian economy according to one scenario: no matter what positive tectonic shifts were observed in the Russian financial crust, the Kudrinsky economists called for budget funds to be received in tangible amounts in a stabilization fund. It would seem that a good thing: the economic safety cushion should certainly play a positive role for Russia in the case of new waves of acute financial crises. However, the problem is that these same economists, by some strange coincidence, formed the very “safety cushion” for an overwhelmingly large percentage of foreign currencies (dollar and euro). At the same time, in the pre-crisis period (2006-2007), when replenishments to the state treasury reached truly impressive values, Kudrinsky economists continued to fill the Stabilization Fund with banknotes, which in large quantities in unsubstantiated form, issued printing presses in the European Union and the USA.

Advisor to the President of Russia Sergey Glazyev says that when the Minister of Finance Kudrin himself was asked why the Stabilization Fund is, in fact, an investment in the American economy, he replied about the following: expert consultants are convinced that the dollar is a reliable investment. In this answer, at least two positions are surprising: what kind of consultants are we talking about, and how could you trust investments in the American financial system when the famous epic of cracks in the US banking and insurance sectors began, when mortgage lending in the States began to fall on its side. It turns out that either Kudrin did not take any decisions himself, but listened to instructions from some external experts, or, if he did, then, for some reason, it was in the direction of the greatest losses for the Russian economy. By the way, the same Sergey Glazyev answers this question. In his opinion, Kudrin at that time was the best finance minister in Russia from the point of view of the United States of America.

Still would! It turns out that those funds that could be used for the pre-crisis ruble strengthening were used for dubious operations to invest in the American economy. It is obvious that in the United States they applauded the actions of Kudrin economists, who by all means tried to slow down the military modernization of the country. Let's not forget that such activity of the “best finance minister” was observed at the very moment when the steel democratic skating rink began its “triumphal” asphalt paving in the expanses of North Africa and the Middle East.

By the way, the words of the ex-minister himself in terms of financing the modernization of the army:

The choice of the tactical direction of modernization of the armed forces is advisable only if there are obvious military threats in the short term (we get a quick, but relatively short-term effect). In this case, the reform of the army should be directly focused on preparing for confrontation with a specific adversary, in a particular theater of military operations.
It is obvious that the former minister by all means made it clear that Russia at this stage has no enemies. Agree that it is very much like the theses of the early Yeltsin era, when nuclear submarines, strategic bombers, small weapon, and enriched uranium straight distilled in the United States, since "there were only friends around". At the same time, the Chechen campaign showed that with the complete dismantling of the army, they were clearly in a hurry ... So why attack the same rake again? Economy and security are not always one field of berries. The situation in the once stable Libya confirms this.

The thought arises that the “Kudrintsev” case was an artificial inhibition of the declared army modernization, so that suddenly the Russian army would not stand in the way of total democratization in an American way. In general, Mr. Minister really did everything that the "consultants" demanded from him, but only, obviously, neither he nor the "consultants" could have imagined that the "best minister" would soon be unemployed ...

For obvious reasons, for the same West, Kudrin in the role of an oppositionist is not as interesting as in the role of a person in whose hands are the financial levers of a huge country. That is why Alexey Leonidovich, only briefly appeared among such zealots of opposition views as Messrs. Navalny, Nemtsov, Kasparov, Udaltsov and others. That is why recently Kudrin himself makes it clear that he is ready to return to power, but if this power does not have his main offender, Dmitry Medvedev ...

And if it comes back, then we can expect the final transformation of the economy exclusively into the petrodollar field, from which any, even the most urgent state project, if financed, will be only in the amount that will suit the western “consultants”. And if today there is a certain reform reform slip in terms of financing the modernization of the army, then when you return to the “Kudrinsky” model of the economy, you will have to put a cross on the reform in general.

Materials used:
http://moment-istini.ru/program_archiv/?vid=377&start=5
http://www.slideshare.net/gaidar_fund/ss-13074387
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  1. YARY
    +10
    27 October 2012 08: 41
    Especially about "overwhelming for the budget" you begin to think when you read that kickbacks and bribes exceed this!
    They drive the crap.
    1. +8
      27 October 2012 10: 17
      The article above, it says where the money goes and why it is not enough. If Putin returns Kudrin, then this will be a complete out. I will refuse to understand anything.
      1. +2
        27 October 2012 13: 19
        Kudrin's return to economic-related posts should not happen, because he set his sights on the trump card of Putin-Medvedev policy, the funds allocated for social security and defense. He went against the bosses and was left out of work. It is generally unclear how he managed to hold on to his post for so long, perhaps Western support made itself felt.
        1. +3
          27 October 2012 20: 47
          sir.jonn,

          The return of Kudrin to posts related to the economy should not happen,


          Do not forget, Kudrin is a protégé of the US Federal Reserve, the global financial elite, the curator of the Central Bank of Russia from the IMF. Anything can happen with such a "roof".
      2. Kaa
        +5
        27 October 2012 14: 37
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The article above, it says where the money goes and why it is not enough.

        A people who refuse to feed their army will feed a stranger. Let’s build an effective economy first ... and who will reap the benefits? One that will have an effective army by now. Well, about the passage, why was money invested in American securities (not even in the dollar. But in treasury), gentlemen are cunning, they are not negotiating. Back in EBN days, long-term agreements were concluded, according to which Russia was obligated to spend up to 90% of oil and gas revenues, we get rid of this liberal burping, little by little, thank God.
      3. +12
        27 October 2012 17: 29
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The article above, it says where the money goes and why it is not enough. If Putin returns Kudrin, then this will be a complete out. I will refuse to understand anything.


        Sasha. Now the collective Department of State began to implement in Russia third force scenario. Recently, billionaire Prokhorov announced that he is leaving the business for politics and is creating a new opposition party "Civil Platform",
        since the activities of the German-Udaltsov non-systemic opposition, actively funded by the State Department, do not bring real results.
        “We have a classic love of dividing into“ red ”and“ white ”: some - with the Kremlin, others - with Bolotnaya and the Coordination Council. But there is no third opinion. I want to have a third opinion, because I want so that the Kremlin feels comfortable in our country, and the Coordination Council
        "Therefore, if you will, I am the third force,"
        - M. Prokhorov.
        So Kudrin in this game will probably either obviously or covertly take not the last place and, accordingly, will have a good financial gesheft.
        Remember the story of his dismissal from the MOF post and his "greyhound" behavior.
        He has already decided to leave for himself, and in order for him to be accepted as a hero in the opposition camp, a conflict with the authorities is needed. So he went to the States (where all the extra-system engineers regularly go about), there he was apparently given the go-ahead and money for the development of Russian democracy and Kudrin was beside himself with happiness that he was accepted into the liberal detachment and immediately threw his knee — I say I will not work in the new government. Well, you will not be and to hell with you, what’s the conversation. Do not want the new, you will not be in the old. And so they said goodbye.
        So, Alexei Leonidovich Kudrin, as one of the most prominent persons of the liberals, begins to actively rally and claim that the system is rotten and the power of guano. It is strange that he took his position for so long - he said that he had disagreements with the country's leadership back in 2006. That is, for 6 years, Kudrin was embarrassed to become an oppositionist or was waiting for a special invitation?
        Now Kudrin is trying to launch active liberal activity. Even the Civil Initiatives Committee has created. I wonder why he was indifferent to civic initiatives when he was a minister? The priest’s chair was heated and the coin rang, so there was no reluctance to climb the liberal tent. He overcame star sickness of Alexei Leonidovich, lost the ground under his feet. Let now try to continue political activity in some elections or under the wing of Prokhorov Let's see who will believe him, after his desire to reduce social spending, after his unwillingness to allocate money to support the population and enterprises during the crisis. Let's see who such is not Minister Kudrin, but just Alexei Leonidovich Kudrin.
        And they can return him to power only for one reason, if the authorities see that he is dangerous to her, and yet, as they say, the most dangerous enemy must be kept with him.

        By the way, a joke in the topic about his activities
        Kudrin comes home from work - and there his wife lies, she cannot rise.
        “What, dear,” the minister asks sympathetically. - Do you want to eat?
        She nods silently, tears in her eyes.
        Kudrin takes out a thick pack of bucks from his pocket, carefully
        recounts and puts back.
        “How many times have you to repeat, you fool ?!” We can’t spend them -
        inflation in the country will rise!
        1. +2
          28 October 2012 15: 43
          Quote: Ascetic
          By the way, a joke in the subject about his activities Kudrin comes home from work - and there his wife lies, she cannot rise. “What, dear,” the minister asks sympathetically. - Do you want to eat? She nods silently, tears in her eyes. Kudrin takes a thick pack of bucks from his pocket, carefully counts it and puts it back. “How many times have you to repeat, you fool ?!” We can’t spend them - inflation in the country will grow!
          - laughing laughing Ascetic, my plus and respect!
          There is nothing to add to your post. The only thing is, of course, keep the enemy closer, but something will really turn off from Kudrin laughing laughing I could not!
  2. +2
    27 October 2012 08: 42
    It was this position of him and quite open criticism of the actions of the top Russian leaders that served as the reasons for the dismissal of Mr. Kudrin from his post.

    In fact, Kudrin was turned when he said that he would only remain if Medvedev was the president and not the Prime Minister. And since this was not planned, Kudrin was quickly sent.
  3. +14
    27 October 2012 08: 59
    What is army modernization ... it is strengthening the backbone of any economy of heavy industry, metallurgy and mechanical engineering. It is the maintenance of the remains of export-oriented enterprises of the military-industrial complex ... the rest of the export-oriented enterprises of the country are destroyed by pseudo-reforms of the 90s. These are the remains of independence ... now and so there is no country, but there is territory, but it will become a passage yard.
    1. +4
      27 October 2012 10: 28
      I completely agree! At the same time, in our time, this is an impetus for the development of high-tech production and an opportunity for the production of our own "smart" machine tools!
      1. Fire
        +1
        27 October 2012 23: 00
        The modernization of the army was to launch the economy. Create new jobs. After all, unemployment is worse than inflation. That's what Roosevelt thought. But the moneybags Kudrin and the oligarchs think differently and continue to strengthen the ruble. Loans are therefore still expensive for industry. Enterprises are being cut short, healthy men have nowhere to work. So much for crime.
    2. 0
      28 October 2012 15: 46
      Quote: Strashila
      What is army modernization ... it is strengthening the backbone of any economy of heavy industry, metallurgy and mechanical engineering. It is the maintenance of the remains of export-oriented enterprises of the military-industrial complex ... the rest of the export-oriented enterprises of the country are destroyed by pseudo-reforms of the 90s. These are the remains of independence ... now and so there is no country, but there is territory, but it will become a passage yard.

      - there the Joker can’t sleep on the next branch, he doesn’t like what the military-industrial complex releases, he grates to no avail, everyone, with a file, bastards, works, in the furnace of the military-industrial complex, he grit. Scared, you're wrong! No, you certainly are a plus from me, but here the Joker, you see, therefore, you are not right. They work with a file !!!!
  4. bask
    +7
    27 October 2012 09: 05
    Why was it slowing down .... And now, what isn’t slowing down ???? People in the Ministry of Defense and the Government of the Russian Federation were left alone and every day. They that grew wiser or less, took ,,, Until the GDP clears, all this ,,, swamp ,,, advance will be zero !!!!!
    1. +5
      27 October 2012 17: 52
      Quote: bask
      People in the Moscow Region and the Government of the Russian Federation were left alone um every day. They that grew wiser or smaller, take ,,, Until the GDP is cleaned up, all this ,,, swamp ,,, advance will be zero !!!!!


      It’s like a many-headed hydra or a Serpent-Gorynych with three heads — one cuts down, the other grows. Even Stalin couldn’t cut everyone out, then they climbed out as soon as they felt the will. We need a state nationally-oriented DICTATURE. But not Putin’s manual control in a liberal economy and the dominance of liberals in power. And so they replaced the ideological thieves-liberals with obedient swindlers from the bureaucratic-bureaucratic EDR
      It is already becoming a tendency for ministers to withdraw to the opposition front, and, as soon as a minister leaves the government it immediately turns out that the system, that is, with him it is wonderful, but without him, alas... What other ministers did the same as Kudrin, or rather, who took the example of Alexei Leonidovich. For example, Boris Efimych. He was the Minister of Fuel and Energy, and then even the Deputy Chairman of the Government. Vladimir Milov. Although he was deputy minister for only six months, he falls under the criterion of liberal ex-ministers. You can’t ignore Misha 2% on such a list. He was neither more nor less than the chairman of the government. And now he plays chess with Kasparov and goes to the marsh rallies. The most interesting thing is that all these people worked in the government in the 90s (with the exception of Milov, who spent his months in the government in 2002), that is, during chaos, theft, lawlessness and poverty. And now they are claiming that Putin dragged the country to the opu. Well, if Putin dragged the country, in their opinion, to this place, then you can imagine where they would have dragged it
      1. +1
        28 October 2012 15: 49
        Quote: Ascetic
        It is already becoming a tendency for ministers to go to the opposition front, and as soon as a minister leaves the government, it immediately turns out that the system, that is, with him it is wonderful, but without him, alas
        Ascetic, you do not understand! You were not at the trough laughing laughing Imagine, you are standing by a huge trough, yummy food is piled up, and then again, it is driven away from the trough. Grudgingly, grunting, and even an opposition screech. Maybe give them a trough? Or what then to do with them?
    2. lotus04
      +1
      29 October 2012 05: 09
      Quote: bask
      Why braked.


      Because BRAKES ARE BRAKES CONTROL! In the minds of some used and "loot".
      Once again I want to say that TRADERS ARE NOT ABLE TO MANAGE THE STATE FOR THE USE OF THE WHOLE SOCIETY! At the head of their corner is OWN LIVING! At the expense of whom and why VALUES FOR THEM DOES NOT MATTER!
  5. +7
    27 October 2012 09: 31
    There needs to be a purge and grandiose, there are still a lot of friends of the potential enemy in the highest echelons of power, and bribes and thieves are more than enough. And only political will and a strong hand will raise Russia.
    1. Lucky
      +5
      27 October 2012 14: 35
      I completely agree with you, it is necessary that everyone put them on a lie detector in the presence of a psychologist!
      1. stroporez
        +4
        27 October 2012 16: 38
        agree. current detector must be Kalashnikov system)))))))))
    2. Vladimir N
      0
      28 October 2012 09: 42
      Cleaning? Well, who should do it? Putin, Medvedev, don’t tell the people he’s laughing and stomach aches from laughter. Tales of a good and smart genie are a fairy tale, and life is a little different. When they come to power they don’t give it away, and the cleaning will be under their control, and you citizens have the role of extras of this performance. A change in the existing way of life is only an overthrow of the existing system, and for this .....
      1. stroporez
        0
        29 October 2012 20: 40
        Putin Medvedev --- who is this ?????????? where he stumbled in the net - roofing Chubais shag them like station huts, along the way so-- parsley
  6. merkel1961
    +4
    27 October 2012 09: 40
    Well, yes, first the enemy will tell us when, by what forces, from which direction the aggression will be carried out, then we will begin modernization and preparation for war. I imagine what would have happened with such a demagogue in the late 30s! An offshore economy is good, the Stabilization Fund in the States is excellent! Yes, according to Kudrin, the UK should work for a long time!
  7. ifafhtdbx
    +3
    27 October 2012 09: 42
    As it was already said - "Who does not want to feed his army, he will feed someone else's."
  8. stroporez
    -6
    27 October 2012 09: 45
    Vladimir Vissarionovich Hitler --- as president !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)))))))))))))))))))) )))
  9. +10
    27 October 2012 09: 48
    I read the article and there was an unpleasant aftertaste.
    I am amazed at such things as they easily and unpretentiously find a "switchman" here.
    I am neutral towards Kudrin, but blame him for deliberate inhibition
    modernization at the behest of Washington is a bust.
    Yes, he, as the chief accountant, is tight-fisted and coped well with the task of not scattering money. Yes, without a strong, advanced industry and modern technology, re-equipping an army is an impossible task.
    In this situation, you have to buy a lot from the West. It’s better to develop your science and power.
    That was his idea - to first create an economic and production base, and then at full speed begin to re-equip the aircraft.
    From the point of view of the accountant - the budget should work to increase assets. This is an axiom.
    The question is still different ...
    This is yet another article that carefully takes us away from the Main Characters in this story.
    They are not here. Neither the first person, nor his shadow, nor the Minister of Defense.
    Strange ... There were no meetings with their participation, where decisions were made, there were no "mistakes" with the collapse of the army, mass layoffs, there was no liquidation and disbandment of many units, there was no theft, etc., etc.?
    Or is it also Kudrin?
    Well, if someone disagrees with me, let me remind you of the well-known proverb: "As is the priest, so is the parish."
    I stood on this and will stand.
    1. +1
      27 October 2012 16: 32
      The only way to quickly restore the industrial potential for Russia was to immediately reanimate relations with enterprises remaining abroad, and then, if necessary, systematically duplicate and replace them with similar enterprises within the country. Kudrin’s policy was the opposite, which subsequently led to a quick resolution of questions on the external debt of Russia but completely destroyed the entire industry.
      1. 0
        27 October 2012 18: 30
        sir.jonn
        Quote: sir.jonn
        The only way to quickly restore the industrial potential for Russia was the immediate resuscitation of relations with enterprises left abroad ...


        This is impossible to do! What kind of connections to talk about, it is worth remembering the gas and dairy wars. Out of the blue they did not find a common language.
        Politics, Mr. Good, makes his own adjustments.
        1. 0
          27 October 2012 20: 20
          Contradictions based on export-import and pricing differences are the result of the post-collapse and they occurred when it was too late to swing fists. The emergence of this very collapse was caused not by the ability or unwillingness of our economists in the 90s to correctly invest the funds received from the few remaining sources. This in turn gave rise to a series of ruins of the economies of many post-Soviet states completely dependent on us. Most of these states, which have maintained a distrustful attitude towards Russia's policy, to this day, in one way or another participate in the so-called wars, but in fact, attempts to protect their still weak producer. It is unfair for me to blame one financier for all the sins; there are more than a dozen participants in this fiasco, but he is one of the steps and the longest-liver that led us to the situation in which we all find ourselves today.
          1. 0
            27 October 2012 22: 09
            I want to note that this attitude of Russia towards its former republics gave rise to their great offense. Our leaders could not have known this.
            Only there are no hopeless situations, and to establish and restore ties in our case is primarily a matter for leading politicians.
            Kudrin, in general, is a good financier, for example, take the crisis that has gone through, but our government does not tolerate dissenting ...
  10. -1
    27 October 2012 10: 09
    Kudrina in the village weed garden!
  11. Brother Sarych
    +2
    27 October 2012 10: 21
    The modernization of the army was not slowed down, it was simply not planned initially ...
    Everything was limited to simple air shocks and a cut of money, supposedly allocated for modernization ...
  12. scrack
    +1
    27 October 2012 10: 32
    Kudrin must be sent to his foreign friends along with the entire so-called. "opposition", otherwise they pretty much spoiled and spoil the air with their actions and statements
  13. galeo88
    +1
    27 October 2012 10: 50
    Kudrin is not Kudrin, what difference does it make if a person doesn’t care about whether or not the modernization of the army is hindered or not, then he has no place in the government. It seems to me the following: Serdyukov.
  14. +3
    27 October 2012 11: 32
    The author has interesting words at the end of the article: "a return to the" Kudrin "model of the economy." Question: And have we changed the economic model with the departure of Kudrin? Everything has remained as it was. Little things do not count. The basis is the same. "
  15. +2
    27 October 2012 11: 34
    I can't be an "expert" in economics, but it has always been said that the American economy is "rejuvenating" itself through wars (it especially profited from the Second World War), that is, through the development of the MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. I don't believe that Kudrin doesn't know this. If we follow logic, then Kudrin is not the person who wants a strong Russia.
  16. +2
    27 October 2012 11: 38
    apparently on the modernization of the army and went Kudrin stocks of dollars, it is good that in time they realized what kind of nits it was and turned into free swimming. without an army, the state is a sucker and there can be no question of any economic growth of the state without an army. especially a state like ours with its territory and resources
    1. 0
      27 October 2012 16: 48
      vehemently plus.
    2. +2
      27 October 2012 19: 26
      Quote: Slevinst

      apparently on the modernization of the army and went Kudrina stocks of dollars

      And where is the modernization? Oh yes. By 2020. Unless, of course, with such appetites of the modernizers of the "Kudrinsky" and other supplies, there will be enough.
  17. +4
    27 October 2012 11: 45
    Such as Kudrin do the will from behind the hill, but we saved up money, but we don’t have to deal with it, and there are still enough of them in the government and the Duma, where you can’t come to Russia only super duper markets everywhere, they don’t build or are building factories chemical production, which is not profitable beyond the hill, large fines, that’s they’re building different garbage in our country
    1. 0
      28 October 2012 20: 05
      Quote: bubla5
      , factories are not being built or chemical production is being built, which is not profitable over the hill; large fines, that’s why they’re building different garbage in our country

      We read and find out: http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/
  18. +2
    27 October 2012 17: 59
    2006 year !!!
    %%%%% The Ministry of Finance under the leadership of Mr. Kudrin has some ambiguous role in managing our public finances. A few years ago, while mobilizing Russian financial resources to unconditionally ensure a schedule of payments on the country's external debt, Mr. Kudrin concentrated many fiscal revenues in his hands, redistributing them from the regions to the federal center. Like, the sovereign is much more important than the ambitions of the specific princes.
    Then, when it became clear that Kudrin’s department had more than enough of these financial resources, the head of the Ministry of Finance began to create, as he put it, a “safety cushion” in the form of establishing the very Stabilization Fund.
    When it became clear that not one such “airbag” was created, but at least three at once, then Mr. Kudrin announced his next task - sterilizing the money supply in an attempt to radically reduce inflation in the Russian Federation. It can be seen then that the Russian "airbag" has become predominantly the "airbag" for the American economy, for which tens of billions of dollars downloaded into it by the Kudrin department by purchasing US Treasury securities have not become superfluous.
    And now it turns out that the Ministry of Finance, under the leadership of Mr. Kudrin, cannot even fulfill a mission that is feasible for a simply qualified accountant. %%%%%
    THIS IS THE BEST MINISTER OF FINANCE, according to the USA.
  19. +2
    27 October 2012 20: 01
    Those who do not want to modernize the army and did not really serve in the army, and their children were protected from this. They do not care about the army, and therefore act like real enemies of the people and country.
  20. +2
    27 October 2012 20: 27
    I have long said that if we trust the economy with liberal economists, then very quickly our country will die because of a typo in some textbook on liberal economics. For communication with these kids made the belief that they read no more than a couple of moronic textbooks on the liberal economy.
    And then only those in which the curators pulled out a section on criticism of the theory.
  21. stroporez
    +1
    28 October 2012 09: 52
    That's what infuriates me. For 25 years, my country has actually been on its knees. And from the smelly holes of our tandem cyclists it’s quiet and audible - overcoming the crisis, the fight against corruption ......... that’s - the Kremlin’s rabble really considers people to be stupid, worthless cattle, which supposedly doesn’t understand, it’s precisely they who have generated all this corruption and lawlessness. Prezikov’s officials kill people on the roads with impunity, humiliate them in courts and other state institutions ..... but this is their product !!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. +1
      28 October 2012 19: 59
      stroporez,
      stop the tantrum.
      1. stroporez
        0
        28 October 2012 22: 14
        hysteria is the destiny of the weak. but my hands really itch ........................
        1. avreli
          0
          29 October 2012 07: 38
          You have a minus. In vain.
          In Russia, the public is generally inclined to proceed with words, and now even more so.
          So the desire to act should be welcomed.
          Just do not substitute.
          The task is not only to win, but to survive and win.
          So that the fruits of victory are enjoyed by those who are worthy, not talkative. smile
          And you have a plus for the right mood.
  22. +2
    28 October 2012 11: 07
    Advice to Kudrin: "When you leave, leave." It is desirable from where you were sent.
  23. Fire
    0
    28 October 2012 11: 55
    I listened to the program on SOYUZ, where a lecturer in economics of Moscow State University spoke. He compared today's economists with the tsarist economists who existed before the revolution. These grief economists reduced the money supply, strengthened the ruble. Remember - the ruble was a hard currency. We have the same thing - loans are very expensive, just give it back. And what is it like for real entrepreneurs, business executives, farmers, collective farms. So it is not far from the revolution. And the "teddy bear" dreams of printing money like the US Federal Reserve System, instead of boosting industry and agriculture.
  24. +1
    28 October 2012 12: 39
    To me, too, everywhere Anglo-Saxon proteges seem. And hell knows, maybe Kudrin is also one of them. One thing I will say - the stabilization fund still turned out to be the topic. If there hadn’t been a stabilization fund at the beginning of the crisis, we would have just gotten a lot of long-term construction, where our petrodollars had swelled. And with this long-term construction, we would not pay pensions or anything at all. So, I myself am glad to repent the bureaucrats-nits, but here I admit the correctness of the decision of the government.
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      28 October 2012 14: 40
      Quote: Magadan
      correct decision

      And what? it was impossible to keep assets in dollars? An even greater benefit would be.
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        28 October 2012 20: 02
        Quote: cherkas.oe
        And what? it was impossible to keep assets in dollars? An even greater benefit would be.

        Who would you allow this? What the hell is China spending hundreds of billions on buying US government bonds? And Japan, which has a US government debt of 200% of its GDP?
        Interesting questions huh? There is something to think about. Could the real structure of the world be much more complicated than it seems?
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    28 October 2012 14: 36
    What's the point of talking about this goat, it's just a waste of nerves, because it was immediately obvious whose mill he was playing into. Only our slow-witted superiors didn't immediately realize it, to their regret, because two people can't quickly change their minds, and the team has no time to think about stealing, they had to come up with new schemes for cuts and kickbacks.
  26. 0
    28 October 2012 16: 32
    After the collapse (and fed it well before) of the USSR, Russia became one of the main sources
    US system financing.
    When Russia is smart enough to cover this feeding trough!
  27. 0
    28 October 2012 22: 28
    Kudrin can not be returned! But who will ask us !? Speaking of economics! Medvedev recently said that it is necessary to continue privatization ... And that companies with state participation should not participate in it. Tell me, if a defense company works efficiently and is interested in acquiring any assets it needs ... Why should private owners have an advantage over it ... And what's more, constantly fearing that for such steps it will receive a cap from the prime minister ?!
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    29 October 2012 17: 08
    The same economist found me. Any adequate financier knows that staying money will not bring profit. money should always be in circulation, and you see, they are going to invest in the stabilization fund. It reminds me of the parable of the Jewish ant, who constantly stored the hawku so that in winter there was something to sharpen and, as a result, died before the first snow from hunger :-)
    Of course, there should be a reserve, of course, but everywhere there should be a measure and a line.

    and in general, what can an economist understand in the army ??? it is still trying to give some instructions about the foreign political and military situation in the world! ("Russia has no threats in the short term"). there are no such threats as much as we have the strength to suppress these threats.

    Based on the article, I can say that this person acts purely in anti-Russian interests (EXITING ONLY FROM THIS ARTICLE)!
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    29 October 2012 20: 41
    In the army, total theft at all levels. Project 2030 corvettes are built for 6-7 years, while the developed countries of the destroyer manage to rivet in 2-3.