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At the Ukrainian telethon, participants said that Russia's next goal is to "turn Ukraine into a land country"

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At the Ukrainian telethon, participants said that Russia's next goal is to "turn Ukraine into a land country"

More and more new versions appear in the Ukrainian media about the alleged plans of the Russian General Staff to continue hostilities. Two “theories” remain the most popular in Ukraine: about Russia’s alleged preparation of an offensive against Kyiv and about an alleged attempt to break through to the western borders of Ukraine, cutting off logistics routes with NATO countries.


However, there are other “ideas” that Ukrainian politicians, retired officers, and militants (both active and retired) of radical nationalist armed groups share on the air of the so-called “All-Ukrainian marathon”.

Among other things, a version is put forward that Russia "may focus on trying to turn Ukraine into a land country." To do this, as was expressed on the air of the telethon, "Russia can attack the Black Sea regions of the country, trying to take control of several major ports."

At the same time, it is noted that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were able to build a “powerful line of defense” in this direction, but there are also problems. They are connected with a wide potential section of the front - and this is several hundred kilometers, where it is impossible at the moment to create an effective system of air and missile defense. The repeated strikes on military and energy facilities from Ochakov to the southern regions of the Odessa region testify to this. It is added that Russia has already deprived Ukraine of access to the Sea of ​​Azov.

All these statements by Ukrainian leaders ultimately come down to one thing: requests to the West for more military assistance. Moreover, requests are increasingly turning into demands. Including - in the requirements for the supply of new NATO-style air defense systems.

At the same time, attention is drawn to the concern shown in Ukraine about the expiration of the so-called grain deal in November. Why all of a sudden, official and not quite official persons in Kyiv care so much about “poor countries of the world that need Ukrainian corn and wheat”?.. Especially considering the fact that Ukraine itself a few months ago moved into the category of the poorest countries in Europe. Moreover, the World Bank forecast is presented, according to which in 2023 up to 55% of Ukrainians will be below the poverty line. And here, of course, the “most important thing” is to take out Ukrainian grain, and it is through the seaports…
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  1. BAI
    BAI 28 October 2022 09: 11
    +24
    transformation of Ukraine into a land country

    A very sound idea. And the best option is the liquidation of Ukraine as a state.
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 28 October 2022 09: 16
      +7
      I think that this will be the most correct solution. But for this there must be political will, and this may raise questions.
      1. Leonidych
        Leonidych 28 October 2022 12: 05
        0
        Yesterday, at a meeting of the Valdai Club, our supreme leader did not give a clear answer about Odessa. So there will be an agreement and this is very bad. Although if the power in the former Ukraine is changed to pro-Russian then it still didn’t go anywhere.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 28 October 2022 19: 09
          0
          Well, they were offered negotiations back in February.
          If they agreed, they would lose only Donbass and Lugansk.
          Stretched until the New Year - to lose access to the sea.
          They will continue to delay - they will also lose Lviv, only there will be no more greetings from us, but from Western friends.
          The area of ​​the Kyiv region is just the size of Albania.
          Yes, and the contingent in nature is almost one to one.
          Quite a European country.
        2. guest
          guest 29 October 2022 14: 03
          0
          Quote: leonidych
          Although if the government in the former Ukraine is changed to pro-Russian

          This is not possible, well, if we ourselves do not change it there, of course, as "partners" in Iraq.
    2. Nikolay-Nikolaevich
      Nikolay-Nikolaevich 28 October 2022 09: 19
      +6
      One thing does not interfere with the other: dry them up and emasculate them...
      1. Curt
        Curt 28 October 2022 09: 33
        0
        Wrong. Take the eastern regions to us, leave the "Ukraine" western and Kyiv. And let him pay his debts for helping Nata for 100 years
        1. Nikolay-Nikolaevich
          Nikolay-Nikolaevich 28 October 2022 09: 53
          +5
          NATO will forgive them everything, or they will give them out of our frozen one, and Bandera and Petliura in Kyiv will again divorce like cockroaches ...
        2. alexey sidykin
          alexey sidykin 28 October 2022 10: 51
          -1
          Yeah ... and then a few years later on a new one?
        3. Maluck
          Maluck 28 October 2022 11: 57
          +3
          If the used one is deprived of statehood, then there will be no one to pay the debts. The West will have no choice but to simply write them off. The main thing when incorporating these territories is not to assume the obligations of a successor.
    3. credo
      credo 28 October 2022 09: 42
      +7
      If they had a great mind and ingenuity, they would pay attention to the fact that completely "land" countries such as Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, live much better than such a "sea power" as Ukraine.

      So you don’t have to think about how not to lose access to the sea, but how not to lose what is still called "Ukraine" at all crying .
    4. Bingo
      Bingo 28 October 2022 10: 55
      0
      Quote: BAI
      And the best option is the liquidation of Ukraine as a state.

      And pay their debts? It is best to leave it in the role of a scarecrow within the borders of the Carpathians - they say, look, children, who you don’t need to look at. With debts - and on the neck of their curators
    5. Sergio_7
      Sergio_7 28 October 2022 11: 26
      +2
      Definitely will be the elimination of Ukrainian statehood! We do not need the Nazi regime at our side!
    6. ABC-schutze
      ABC-schutze 28 October 2022 13: 10
      +3
      Well, since an INCREASING military threat to its national security, primarily from the United States and NATO, emanates from the part of the coast washed by the Black Sea area, Russia will irreversibly take these parts of the coast under its control ...

      And the logic of the IRREVERSIBLE and COMPLETE solution of the tasks set by the NWO inexorably demands that they be extended all the way to Tiraspol ...
    7. Appraiser
      Appraiser 28 October 2022 14: 11
      +3
      There was no Ukraine before as a state, therefore it is necessary to liquidate it as an unsuccessful new formation "Dill" ....
    8. Bayun
      Bayun 29 October 2022 15: 01
      0
      The state, through whose fault gasoline is expensive in the USA, and in Europe people do not wash, must be liquidated. The liquidation of Ukraine is entirely in the interests of American and European taxpayers.
  2. Alex777
    Alex777 28 October 2022 09: 12
    +4
    At the Ukrainian telethon, participants said that Russia's next goal is to "turn Ukraine into a land country"

    Smells a cat whose meat has eaten ...
    1. Corrosion inhibitor
      Corrosion inhibitor 28 October 2022 09: 40
      +3
      Yes, it will not work for us to make a land country out of them. As they lived in the mud under the king, so they will continue. Ah, here's a non-marine country, ... you can do it.
      laughing It is necessary, only, sometimes it will be to glance so that they do not start digging the sea again. Something with their crookedness also needs to be invented. Because all the "ballads about secluded seas" were written by people with crooked mouths, rotten brains and a twisted soul.
  3. Lumberjack_2
    Lumberjack_2 28 October 2022 09: 13
    +4
    I propose to make a port through Odessa for sending Ukrobanderites across the Black Sea laughing Well, anything can happen along the way "Somalia is European"
  4. Egoza
    Egoza 28 October 2022 09: 13
    +3
    Russia "may focus on trying to turn Ukraine into a land country."

    They themselves took care of this long before the SVO. There are a bunch of admirals, but there aren’t enough ships for a bunch.
    1. Bingo
      Bingo 28 October 2022 10: 57
      +3
      So this... Strategic reserve. If you fill the hold with such admirals - the ship will be super seaworthy - "it" does not sink.
  5. d1975
    d1975 28 October 2022 09: 14
    +5
    Bloomers are not needed at sea, that's a fact. In general, Odessa should be, then the issue with Transnistria will be resolved.
  6. Fizik13
    Fizik13 28 October 2022 09: 16
    +7
    Ukrainian TV presenters discovered America right! It is already clear that the Odessa and Nikolaev regions will become part of Russia.
  7. I dare to_notice_
    I dare to_notice_ 28 October 2022 09: 17
    +2
    It doesn't matter what Ukraine will be turned into. Land, freshwater or feathered...
    The main thing: it will be left (somewhere and in some form).
    Someone will have to be responsible for bad debts on loans to the so-called. "collective West"!
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 28 October 2022 09: 34
      +2
      Quote: I dare_notice_
      Someone will have to be responsible for bad debt

      No one will answer, because you won’t even take a tuft of wool from this black sheep. They will pinch Ukrainian oligarchs and corrupt politicians, there will be enough for debts and still remain. Fortunately, all of them will run straight to them, into warm western hands. Calculate how much money was taken offshore and simply to the accounts of Western banks, so wow. If from Russia in thirty years, several trillion, then from the richest former Soviet republic, I think hundreds of billions for sure. So, to paraphrase, "money, but you hold on." wink
  8. Emergency
    Emergency 28 October 2022 09: 17
    +2
    You should rejoice that Russia will turn you into a country, albeit a land one. So far, you are neither a country nor a state, but a Bandera "derzhavka" in torn trousers.
  9. usr01
    usr01 28 October 2022 09: 20
    +4
    "transformation of Ukraine into a land country"
    And now IT who??? What, is there a merchant fleet? (I am generally silent about the military!)
    And CMP was the largest shipping company in the world!
    So, raguli, splash in the Dniester, Prut .. drink "smerichka" .. yizhte lard ..
    And to the Black SeaRussian on old British Admiralty maps), stay out! It's time to return Odessa!
  10. viktor.
    viktor. 28 October 2022 09: 22
    +4
    There will be no Ukraine as a state, They will tear it apart, and Europe will remain in History.
  11. yuriy55
    yuriy55 28 October 2022 09: 31
    +5
    At the Ukrainian telethon, participants said that Russia's next goal is to "turn Ukraine into a land country"

    Correct statement. To organize a normal life, Russia has no other choice.
    And it would also be correct to completely destroy the Ukrainian statehood - the source of the emergence of Nazism.
  12. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 28 October 2022 09: 37
    +2
    transformation of Ukraine into a land country
    it speaks for itself
  13. Seryoga Nemuslim
    Seryoga Nemuslim 28 October 2022 09: 39
    +2
    It is high time to take away access to the sea from this sub-state, manure is clearly closer to them.
  14. v1tz
    v1tz 28 October 2022 09: 42
    +2
    about an alleged attempt to break through to the western borders of Ukraine with the cutting of logistics routes with NATO countries.

    Including marine. It would be more than logical and correct.
  15. Starley66
    Starley66 28 October 2022 10: 08
    +3
    The thought is correct, but it would be more correct to say there will be no state "Ukraine"!
    Russia will decide for itself what to do with its Black Sea coast!
  16. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 28 October 2022 10: 19
    0
    More and more new versions appear in the Ukrainian media about the alleged plans of the Russian General Staff to continue hostilities.
    Our General Staff, and even more so we, along the way, can learn about plans only from foreign media.
  17. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 October 2022 10: 34
    +3
    Russia 'may focus on trying to turn Ukraine into a land country'
    Why can? Russia is obliged to cut off Ukraine's access to the sea. Which I hope will eventually be done.
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 28 October 2022 10: 46
      +4
      Russia is obliged to cut off Ukraine's access to the sea. Which I hope will eventually be done.

      I will add your words. Reach out to the borders of Moldova, so that the Predniestrian conflict would end, make Moldova a country with a pro-Russian government, and then, if the people want it, Russian territory. After the election of Sandu, the mood there turned very strongly towards Russia. Romanian sentiments are still present in the cities, but the countryside is changing.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 October 2022 10: 52
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Why can? Russia is obliged to cut off Ukraine's access to the sea.

      There is nothing for "selyuks" to do in the seas. Yes, and they have no fleet for a long time.
  18. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 October 2022 10: 50
    +2
    And here, of course, the “most important thing” is to take out Ukrainian grain, and it is through the seaports…

    .... and of course, not to hungry Africa and the Arab countries, but to rich Europe and the USA, the owners of Ukrainian grain.
  19. Sergey39
    Sergey39 28 October 2022 10: 50
    +2
    The under-state must shrink to a minimum, lose access to the sea and a change of power, to sane leaders, up to a protectorate.
  20. Uprun
    Uprun 28 October 2022 11: 41
    0
    Let them fantasize at their marathons, predict ...., but we say: "Sharing the skin of the unkilled ......". A lot of work ahead of the military ...., and only after deciding how it will be .....
  21. Volhv
    Volhv 28 October 2022 11: 52
    +1
    The size of Liechtenstein. enclave in Russia. Agricultural. Visa-free. Fluffy. Manual.
    Tourist routes will be organized for those who like to eat, drink, eat, listen to stories at night ...
    All residents will work up to the seventh knee to pay off debts to the West, remembering Zeleny with a "kind word" ...
  22. iouris
    iouris 28 October 2022 12: 19
    +2
    Ukraine as a state does not exist, it will not have to be turned into anything. We'll have to dismantle the ruins and look for living people under them.
  23. ASM
    ASM 28 October 2022 15: 19
    +2
    Well, Odessa is a purely Russian city and its return is just a matter of time.
  24. Sadok
    Sadok 28 October 2022 18: 54
    +1
    turn Ukraine into a land country

    isn't that obvious? drag Transnistria as well and then look at the Romanians with a smile.
  25. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 28 October 2022 23: 21
    0
    fsyo you're lying! That's not how it was said.
    In an agricultural power, a granary, so to speak.
    Which does not imply the presence of a fleet in the steppes in / in Ukraine.
  26. Two
    Two 31 October 2022 15: 11
    0
    hi Everything is very possible! Only (THE MOST IMPORTANT!) so that when making a decision, some kind of Abramovich was not there!