"Petal": about the insidious anti-personnel mine

During the Russian special operation in Ukraine, even children probably heard about the anti-personnel mine “Petal”. It's insidious weapon, prohibited by the UN international convention, has been actively used and continues to be used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

At the same time, the worst thing is that the Ukrainian military carries out mining using PFM-1 and PFM-1C not only directly at the front, but also in peaceful, densely populated cities, in particular Donetsk.

The PFM-1 is only about 12 cm in size and weighs 80 g, of which 38 g is liquid explosive. The charge is enough to tear off a person's foot if he steps on a mine, which is extremely difficult to see in the grass.

The body of the “Petal” itself is made of nylon, which makes the damaging effect of fragments unlikely. However, the mine has a metal fuse that flies out like a bullet during detonation.

The most dangerous is PFM-1S. Marking "C" means self-destruction. The mine will explode on its own after 1 to 40 hours. Thus, a person can suffer even without touching the "Petal", but simply passing next to it.

Mining often takes place using helicopters, remote mining machines and MLRS. The Armed Forces of Ukraine for "seeding" the streets of Donetsk and other cities with "Petals" used the MLRS "Hurricane". One cassette contains 312 PFM-1. Therefore, a full package of "Hurricane" (16 missiles) will provide a spread of 4992 deadly mines.

In the event that you are not a military or an employee of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, it is highly recommended not to try to neutralize the Petal on your own. It is especially not worth throwing a stone into a mine, since during the explosion it will shatter into dozens of fragments and the radius of destruction will increase significantly.

The military often uses an automatic machine to neutralize the PFM-1. One of these "experiments" is demonstrated by the hosts of the "Large-caliber Trouble" channel in their video.

Comments

[Galleon]

Briefly and clearly. I wonder what kind of fuse is there?

[Konnick]

Briefly and clearly

Even shorter than wikipedia

[Shurik70]

The most dangerous is PFM-1S

I do not agree.
A timed self-destruct mine is a normal weapon. With which you can sow the field in front of the front, and a month later, without being afraid to calmly plow on it.
If the terrorists bombarded a civilian object with them, you can take people out along the explored safe routes and wait for the mines to self-discharge.
Only after all, the ukrovermacht uses old Soviet stocks. When they did not know how to make petals with a self-liquidator, they were very much needed in Afghanistan. And they were stamped around the clock. So these mines will lie until they are stepped on. Week, month, year...
It's more dangerous without a self-liquidator.

[svp67]

Quote: Shurik70

I do not agree.

I agree with you. Already a mine that can lie for months in anticipation of its victim, well, you can’t call it safer

[MBRSS]

I wonder what kind of fuse is there?

Galleoncovered in darkness. I'm still wondering what kind of liquid explosive is there.

[svp67]

Quote: Galleon

I wonder what kind of fuse is there?

Yes, everything is quite simple there, pressure on the body with a force of 5-25 kg causes a flow of liquid explosive, the movement of which through the channels of the fuse removes it from the fuse, sets in motion the impeller with a compressed spring, which hits the detonating composition ...

[Galleon]

Thank you! Interesting
The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information

[vfwfr]

AHA. The vid is already blocked.
""The text of your comment is too short and, according to the site administration, does not contain useful information.""

[Konnick]

AHA. The vid is already blocked.
""The text of your comment is too short and, according to the site administration, does not contain useful information.""

And an article without a vidosik also does not carry useful information.

[MBRSS]

vfwfr, above the video window there is a link - the word "video" in the last sentence of the text. Good vid, I liked it.

[svp67]

Quote: vfwfr

AHA. The vid is already blocked.

[bk316]

I have two friends who suffered in Afghanistan from him.
I talked to one in great detail. The foot was not torn off and generally escaped with a fracture of the tibia and crushed the calcaneus (multiple open comminuted with displacement). He was treated for a long time, but he saved his leg. He says that there is no chance to notice her at all. She lay on the scree and was lightly powdered with snow. Especially if they are scattered one by one in unexpected places, it is generally not clear what to do. Even with these petals, let's get full of hemorrhoids.

[yuriy55]

Quote: bk316

Especially if they are scattered one by one in unexpected places, it is generally not clear what to do. Even with these petals, let's get full of hemorrhoids.

What kills me is not so much the use of such mines with self-liquidation after 40 hours by airmen, but the lack of a similar response by Russian troops in the areas of concentration and in the directions of alleged offensives.
Strains this hemorrhoids with TNW, which cannot be used; this epidersia with conventional weapons, similar in power and characteristics to tactical nuclear weapons, which we have, but we will not use; this is the observance of the rules against inveterate villains and sadistic murderers ...
Why, in fact, a person cannot hit with a pitchfork a dog that attacked a woman or a child? Why is it impossible to use a “Lithuanian” (scythe) to cut off a vile mug along with the head? Just because this tool is for making hay?
We are trampled without rules and outside the law, and we are trying to fight in white gloves...
In the new Russian territories, Bandera and lurking traitors became more active. They stealthily kill Russian citizens. Why doesn't anyone here do this:

[MBRSS]

The use of tactical nuclear weapons lowers the threshold of general Armageddon, but a couple of ODABs that we were once shown in the news as a "tsar bomb" would do well to use.
And generally speaking! It is useful for Konashenkov to declare every time that such and such an action of ours was a RESPONSE to such and such an action of the criminal Kyiv regime! Sowed "petals" in Donetsk - get ODAB in Kyiv so that the glasses fly out within a radius of a kilometer. You can even warn that residents at such and such a time do not come close to the windows, in order to avoid civilian casualties. We, unlike the Nazis, do not need civilian casualties.

[futurohunter]

Instead of ODAB, they use "Suns" - almost the same, no worse))

[bk316]

Why not...

Well, continue, why did we sign and comply with the Geneva Convention, why did we sign an agreement on the prohibition of chemical and biological weapons, on the prohibition of the placement of nuclear weapons in outer space, etc. etc.
I have an answer: to have the moral right to destroy those who violate all these conventions.

[yuriy55]

Quote: bk316

to have the moral right to destroy those who violate all these conventions.

Just now, in the program “Who is Against”, its presenter grappled in a dispute with a guest who claims that in the world the right to use force and destroy those who violate some norms is granted ONLY to the United States. In particular, the guest claimed that the United States would have found and dealt with the terrorist who blew up the gas pipelines, the presenter limited himself to remarks like: this is not our method ...
I suppose that Russia has been given the right to puff out cheeks and chew snot ... Not Russia itself, of course, but cowardly, and therefore miserable, admitted to power.

[bk316]

Just in the program “Who is Against”, its presenter grappled in a dispute with a guest who claims that in the world the right to use force

You missed one word "moral".
About the morality of the United States, I think you do not need to explain anything.
But you should think about Russian morality. No need to be like different cattle. This is what the Russian world is based on.

[yuriy55]

Quote: bk316

You missed one word "moral".

But who today observes the principles of morality? Are these rear wheel drive?
Having entered the barnyard, there is no need to regret the whiteness of the shirt-front and the cleanliness of the shoes.
For Russians today, morality has been crossed out of use. Perhaps you consider the increase in the retirement age to be a highly moral act? Or does the presence of 20 beggars claim to be a model of the morality of those who adopted the size of the minimum wage as a law?
She (morality) is remembered when a Russian takes up arms.
Today, low-moral citizens are beginning to wonder why the highly developed economic formation of the speculative-liberal economy is not able to work for the interests of the country and why Russia, choking on energy and water resources, keeps high prices for fuel, electricity and water inside the country.

[bk316]

Yes, who today observes the principles of morality

WE, I, my CHILDREN. Too bad if you don't.
And don't be confused. Morality is not about the state, not about the official.
Morality is about the soul, that is, always about a specific person.

[yuriy55]

Quote: bk316

Morality is about the soul, that is, always about a specific person.

It's right. Can you and your children change something in the morality of today's society? Me not. I have neither strength nor health ... The only thing I can do is help sick children with SMS messages, and send money to the fighters of the NWO.
About the soul - this is spirituality, and morality is akin to administrative rules and unwritten norms of behavior. It's about what is good and what is bad.

[bk316]

Can you and your children change something in the morality of today's society?

Yes, there is no morality in society and never has been. The morality of society is for excuses like "ALL STEAL". Therefore, I can't. I can only exclude (well, or reduce) communication with immoral types.

About the soul - this is spirituality, and morality is akin to administrative rules and unwritten norms of behavior. It's about what is good and what is bad.

Well, yes, in many ways society, but certainly not the state. And it is not the society that complies with the rules, but the person. It is not society that steals, it is not society that kills, it is not society that saves the perishing.

[yuriy55]

Quote: bk316

Well, yes, in many ways society, but certainly not the state.

Both the state and society play the primary role in shaping the principles of morality. This is an example of materials on the topic: "How to legalize cannibalism on the Overton scale."
And in the state there are adopted laws and power structures that contribute to their implementation. Homosexuality cannot arise in a normal society for no reason at all. And it is easy to impose other rules and norms on a person, placing him in an immoral environment...
It was the state that allowed thieves' morality (concepts) to win in our country. It was society, with its passivity and indifference, fear of being branded as a “radish” (according to thieves' concepts), that brought to power not the best in terms of moral qualities and ethics of representatives.
Lies, like rust corroding fundamental principles, contributing to the prosperity of chatter, instead of deeds, giving rise to double standards .. - the main reason for the degradation of morality.

[bk316]

Homosexuality cannot arise in a normal society for no reason at all.

Well, homosexuals are everywhere - this is a mental illness.

Lies, like rust corroding fundamental principles, contributing to the prosperity of chatter, instead of deeds, giving rise to double standards .. - the main reason for the degradation of morality.

Yes, it’s true about lies, but everything is simple here. Begin with yourself. Stop lying, then look around and become intolerant of the lies of your loved ones, then take the next step when you see a liar and expose him. THESE STEPS CANNOT BE TAKEN IN ANY OTHER ORDER. I'm taking the third step. And the state, unfortunately, lies any and always. History has not been otherwise.

[yuriy55]

Quote: bk316

And the state, unfortunately, lies any and always. History has not been otherwise.

The state is forced to lie only because it is not useful for every little mind to know state secrets. The state is forced to hide shortcomings, the difficulties of difficult situations and lie in order to prevent panic and mass psychosis in the form of buying up food and essential goods (at least).
The meanness of state lies lies in the fact that it tries to whitewash the vicious and frankly wrecking activities of state people, covering it up with high-flown words and slogans, perfectly understanding not only the lies of their own statements, but also the harm they bring, and their own impotence to change something. At the same time, being in power, discrediting themselves from all sides, or being at the top of useless people, enemies of the state, or approaching the top of obvious money-grubbers, as well as praising others for mythical achievements and successes, with one goal - to continue their stay, is complete destruction state foundations.
If the state is created for the interests of a minority, then this is meanness, which has no justification.

[bk316]

The state is forced to lie only because it is not useful for every little mind to know state secrets. The state is forced to hide shortcomings, the difficulties of difficult situations and lie in order to prevent panic and mass psychosis in the form of buying up food and essential goods (at least).

Bravo, not many people understand this.

The meanness of state lies lies in the fact that it tries to whitewash the vicious and frankly wrecking activities of state people, covering it up with high-flown words and slogans, perfectly understanding not only the lies of their own statements, but also the harm they bring, and their own impotence to change something.

And this is not a state lie, this is a lie of parasites attached to the state. We have a dime a dozen of them in the state machine. And what did you want all the 90s, there were only 2 social lifts - bandits and the state, and people imagined them approximately the same for themselves (like a bottomless trough). Well, those who went into bandits with such views already in the next world - it turned out to be a bandit is not so easy. And who are still trying to sit in the state machine. Locally, many departments were cleaned out, but there were millions of such parasites, and over the years they have risen to the top.

[futurohunter]

The bandits were shot only stupid. Those who are smarter went into legal business, became deputies, and made friends in power. There was also a reverse process - a number of officials who "have access" themselves engaged in criminal activities. Now they no longer shoot in the streets, as in the 90s. Criminal activity is carried out in the silence of offices and behind computer screens. But the damage from it is not less, but more.
Officials, in order to continue to occupy their seats (and turn their personal affairs around), are also forced to do something - fight the covid, build playgrounds, etc.
And some officials don't seem to be doing shady dealings. But they launch such projects in order to splurge, "report" and get a good bonus. A lot of useless but costly things are done, such as the annual asphalt re-laying. And the country, with all the richness of its capabilities, does not live better from this ... And there is no way out of this situation ...

[futurohunter]

Stop any talk about the use of any nuclear weapons! Nonsense. Offering to use it (if no one else is using it) can only be a narrow-minded person

[futurohunter]

And if you just run a "cat" on a long cable across the territory, will it be hooked? Will she react to this, explode?

[Knell wardenheart]

Therefore, a full package of "Hurricane" (16 missiles) will provide a spread of 4992 deadly mines.

I hope that there is the hottest pot in hell for design teams that invent something like this.

[Monster_Fat]

Petal, a further development of the American mine used in Vietnam. For me, the designer "will burn in hell.", Like many u.b.l.yu like him ..... ki, who created effective murder weapons ...

[MBRSS]

Knell wardenheart, three "misanthropic designers" have already slapped you with cons I sympathize

[Knell wardenheart]

And it’s wonderful)) With fans of severed limbs and fourth-degree burns, I’m not on my way) Past wars show us well that everything passes - but traces remain .. the echo of the war, that’s all.
Apparently, one cannot do without killing a person by a person - but why produce all these sadistic things? Prepared people will pass through this on vehicles or pass with sappers - and the main stuffing will be from civilians, animals, villagers, children, the elderly. And then some bastard will shed crocodile tears of repentance and mutter like "oh, I didn't know that there would be children .." - and at least who will feel better about it? I believe that scientists should have a conscience and humanism in what they do. Everyone should understand that when opening Pandora's box, it can no longer be closed, and there are 0 sadugans who are sick on the head, who will be interested in bringing this to the point of absurdity, Schaub was epic.

[futurohunter]

Don't be moralistic. Any weapon can be used for military purposes, and can be used against civilians. Well, no one curses the designers of guns and MLRS, from which they fire at civilians. Petals are an extremely effective weapon against all kinds of guerrillas, and they showed themselves in this role in Afghanistan. Also, it works well if they cover the trenches and rear of enemy troops. But why why don't ours use it against ukrov? Maybe just not left (destroyed)?
Any mine weapon is dangerous. For everyone - it does not distinguish between its own and others. That is why, so that it does not create a danger to its own, it is equipped with a timer with a self-liquidator. To, for example, put minefields for the duration of the defense / preparation for the offensive, and then advance along the "clean" field

[Knell wardenheart]

Any weapon whose task is not so much to kill as to critically cripple is an immoral weapon, and the fact that you do not understand this is very regrettable.

I will add - killing people is generally inhumane. But, alas, the history of mankind is the history of wars

If we continue to exist in this paradigm of thinking, recognizing the abnormal process as the norm, and the sadistic approach to it as justified, then sooner or later we will kill ourselves with chemical or nuclear or biological weapons, simply because in some sharaga they will invent a mega- hellish shit capable of killing 100500 "militants", and they will consider it quite justified for use at all levels of decision-making, just as you think now.

[futurohunter]

Any weapon (up to nuclear, chemical or biological) can not kill, but "critically cripple". "Critical cripple" can be an ordinary automatic bullet, or a fragment of a "normal" projectile. You have some strange basis for condemnation. It turns out that there are "moral" and "immoral" weapons. The weapon itself is neither moral nor immoral. It's just a technical device. The one who uses it is immoral.
One of the tasks of minefields is to impede the movement of the enemy. If the enemy knows that there is a minefield somewhere, then he will not go to it. Or he needs to bypass it. Passages through minefields are known and targeted. Or he needs to clear this field, spend time on it, and again expose himself to fire. Suppose we have lines for a long defense. We can throw mines on them, preventing the enemy from getting close. Something like this.
And you need to somehow define your position. Either you are a pacifist and oppose any war and any weapons, or you bring some reason for wars and the use of weapons.
As for "ditching the militants" - they themselves chose such a fate. It is often easier to "ditch" than to do something else.
That's the whole "paradigm".
Yes, and thanks to nuclear weapons, there were no more world wars after World War II.

[futurohunter]

I will add. Strange as it may sound, but according to all international conventions, there is a war "according to the rules" and "not according to the rules." "According to the rules" - combat operations are conducted between combatants - soldiers of the warring parties, dressed in uniform with insignia and with weapons. They know that they can be killed, wounded or maimed. But "not by the rules" is when combatants fight against unarmed civilians. For example, the shelling of cities with civilians in the Donbass.
There is an exception. A non-combatant (not a belligerent soldier) who takes up arms is not subject to the rules of war. That is why the attitude towards all kinds of terrorists, partisans, militants, mercenaries and bandits is as merciless as possible.

[futurohunter]

I will add - killing people is generally inhumane. But, alas, the history of mankind is the history of wars

[sgapich]

Quote: Galleon

Briefly and clearly. I wonder what kind of fuse is there?

Quote: MBRBS

Galleoncovered in darkness. I'm still wondering what kind of liquid explosive is there.

In my opinion, a good article about this mine (albeit on Zen):
https://dzen.ru/media/id/5aedca66256d5cf5602bf2eb/protivopehotnaia-fugasnaia-mina-pfm1-5e7712e5dc99f90a35290947