Confessions of a traitor. In Miami in Russian

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Confessions of a traitor. In Miami in Russian

I still don't understand why this person contacted me. Maybe boiled up. Maybe he decided to take revenge on those who first inspired him with illusions, and then broke his whole life and trampled all hopes. Or he really decided to warn all those who made a conscious decision to part with the hated “rashka” and set foot on the slippery path of migration.

Perhaps he thus wanted to cut the Gordian knot of all his problems. Although the main problem he now has one - to survive. He himself asked to be called simply - Vladimir Vladimirovich. His confession seemed very interesting to me.

Live bait


I myself was born in Central Asia, in a wealthy family. Father - a front-line soldier, participant in the assault on Sapun Mountain, holder of the Order of the Red Banner. I graduated from the local physics and mathematics school, entered the capital's Baumanka. We were distributed to mailboxes, where we forged the defensive shield of the Motherland.



For the most part, all the Baumans were ardent patriots. But not me. I have always liked the West. I loved wearing jeans, listening to Deep Purple and the Rolling Stones, Smokie and Sinatra. Hollywood bestsellers just blew my mind. America, hardly anyone would argue, had a powerful musical and cinematic culture, and it simply fascinated me.


And Coca-cola was the best drink on earth for me. And I've been attracted to money all my life. And I never had enough of them. Even while studying at the institute, I confessed to my neighbors in the hostel: “of all types of books, I like savings the most.”

This is where I got caught.

As I later realized, I had been grazed for a long time. The Americans carefully studied my psychotype - all its strengths and weaknesses. They ingeniously play on human vices and shortcomings. And I had flaws. As they later explained to me, I had two weaknesses - complete lack of spirituality (they call it emotional castration) and extreme greed.

I was even embarrassed to hear it later. Maybe that's why I came to you. But in a way they were right.

Brain flashing


Back in Baumanka, the Americans got me hooked on thieves courses - Miami is luring. Translated from English - "Miami beckons." As I later understood, according to this program, the special services simply dragged the people they needed into Miami - with an eye to the future. More precisely - for further intelligence activities.

They called their wards "larins" - a derivative of the word "luring" (alluring). And then we ourselves began to call each other that. By the way, the courses were paid. And quite cheap. That is, they also took money from us for this. But this completely fit into their worldview paradigm:

"If you don't have a whip to flog you, we'll sell it to you."

After the course, I became a completely different person - I was normal, but became a living ball of hatred. They just reflashed my mind. Gradually, drop by drop, step by step. It was a "soft zombie", as I now understand. And it almost always had an irreversible character. It was a one-way ticket, straight into the abyss. And I went through it all - without a trace.

- Can you show this "zombie" on a couple of specific examples?

- The Americans have several popular expressions, which, firstly, reveal well their own inner world. Secondly, they expose their basic moral and psychological attitudes, from which they start when working with clients. Thirdly, they show the very methods of their work.

First. And perhaps most importantly: "Nothing personal - just business." I really liked this phrase from my student days. It seems to be attributed to Al Capone. But, firstly, Al Capone himself was not too smart a person to give out such pearls. And secondly, American propaganda geniuses put this phrase into the mouth of a bandit so as not to get dirty themselves.

In addition, as I later found out in Miami, this is the favorite phrase of the Colombian drug lords. Here, by the way, there is also enough drugs. But she walks mainly in the Mexican and colored neighborhoods.


But in a more understandable version for the Russian ear, the phrase would sound like this: "nothing human - just business." And business is money. The very ones that I and millions of the same greedy boobies loved so passionately.

And they also have a phrase. Even the type of law is like this - "in order for you to become rich, thousands of people must become poor." Type of production costs, nothing can be done. Now I understand that this is complete nonsense and wiring. So you are subconsciously “sharpened” so that in the future you will harm your own country. And then it seemed fundamental truths ...

And here all of us who studied at these courses (and these were mainly “production commanders”) fell into a psychological trap. According to Anglo-Saxon logic, in order to break through to money, one must renounce everything “personal” and become a scumbag.

And “personal” means friends, family, parents. And, only by giving up all this, you will become a successful “new American”. And you will join the millionth army of other sons of bitches who, in the name of the dollar, abandoned their value system in which they grew up.

The next step of the newly minted "son of a bitch" was to be the desire to destroy all those whom he abandoned. Because they prevent him from living by the mere fact of his existence. They will be for him an eternal reproach, the sword of Damocles of consciousness. They prevent him from living and feeling comfortable in the States.

This effect was very well described by Gogol in the story "Taras Bulba". Having betrayed his father, mother, brother, homeland, friends of childhood and youth, his son Andriy began to kill them. The only person he couldn't kill was his father.

All these "larins" (and all MIL graduates met in Miami), as a rule, do not need to kill their fathers. Some of the fathers have died. You can simply not communicate with others, calling them old fools. But the memory of them is very real to kill.

Yes, and the father, in fact, can also be killed. He is a living person, made of blood and flesh. So the Larins can go even further. And then it will be completely American "sons of bitches", ready for anything for the sake of money.

- And what other settings did they introduce into the consciousness (or subconscious) by these “Larins”?

- They were enough. Well, for example - "whatever we talk about, we always talk about money."

- Well, if we are talking about parents? Or about children? Or about the woman you love? Is it all money too?

- Of course. Parents are money for medicine. Children are money for education. Beloved woman is money for flowers. And so in everything. But Russia is not about money. And certainly not about the consumer society. This is about eternity. About the Russian world. About the messianic idea. This is the country that Christ walked barefoot. And money rules in the Temple of Satan on the Shining City on the hill. It's definitely his instrument.

And they also told me that I was a genius, and this country, this despicable "scoop" of me, a genius, is absolutely unworthy. I started to feel underappreciated. I've always wanted more. This is despite the fact that at one time I went from foreman to plant director. True, I then bankrupted the plant.

- And why?

Yes, for the same reason. Contempt for some abstract "scoop" smoothly flowed into contempt for everything Russian, and then - for everything Russian. The paradox is that I myself am Russian. Pure water. But they also found a loophole here. I was led to believe that I am a pleasant exception from this army of millions of barbarians.

And I began to hate my people. Surprising but true. The factor of underdemand for an ambitious person is a very sore subject. It can be very destructive. I think I was subconsciously determined to kill the production entrusted to me. And killed. Several thousand people ended up on the street thanks to me. This is how I "revenge" the scoop at the suggestion of the Americans.

But the paradox is that, having lured me to Miami, here they did not offer me anything worthwhile. As a result, the director of the plant in Russia became a plumber in America. "Toilet bowl", roughly speaking.

So this is a catastrophic loss of status...

- In fact of the matter. After that you start to hate the whole world. And your hatred is looking for a way out. And here a psychological paradox arises. It is impossible to hate yourself, your beloved, for your own stupidity.


The Americans who cheated on you are simply dangerous to hate. You will begin to broadcast it outside. And for this they can be sent back to Russia with a kick - and even with the stigma of a loser. And many of my fellow Bauman students in Russia have made a brilliant career during this time. Which only exacerbated my stupidity.

Recruitment and culling


And in Miami, I and hundreds of other similar “larins” became a huge nutritious plankton for the special services. In the same Miami, about ten thousand Russians and several hundred thousand Latinos (Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Colombians, Bolivians) live.

And it would be funny if the operatives and analysts of the CIA and the FBI did not try to use them as agents to work on historical homeland. But when recruiting "auxiliary apparatus" from this environment, a number of problems arose. "Uncle Whiskers" (CIA recruiters) tried to engage both me and many of my Mexican acquaintances in the ChRK.

- And how successful?

“They don’t do well with the Mexicans.

First, there are not many intellectuals among them. For the most part, "Meks" work in hourly jobs where high qualifications are not needed, and in the service sector. And in intelligence, you have to think, think, analyze and be able to predict. It's not about them.

Secondly, "Latinos" love to live in a relaxed sinecure mode. They themselves call it "manian mode" - "to live in a manian mode." "Mañana" in Spanish means "tomorrow". If a Latinos promises you to do something tomorrow, then most likely he will never do it in his life. First - "tomorrow", then - later, then - after, after the rain on Thursday and in general - get off me. That's not how intelligence works.

Third: Latinos are essentially intriguers. But intriguers for the most part are some small ones - at the level of kitchen family showdowns. The main intrigue is to go to the left, and then in the family circle to pretend to be an exemplary family man. And then burst with pride - wow, what a cunning macho lover I am!


Finally, the fourth - the local "Don Pedro" is extremely talkative and boastful. Their tongue dangles like a bell in the wind. And this is the first sign of unsuitability for a scout.

What about Russian emigrants?

- Quite another matter. There are guys here with intellect, and with a conceptual apparatus, and with ambitions, and they know how to keep their mouths shut. Not what I am.

- Did they propose to you?

- Of course. First, the very status of “larin” obliges. I came according to their program. Secondly, I had ambitions. I was a big boss in the Union. Get used to leading people. And here I had to work as a "husband for an hour" - to put toilets for blacks. My pride was hurt, of course.

And the "whiskers" wanted to catch me on this. They offered everything - money, status, business trips, and interest-free loans. Even a "honey trap" was offered. Like, enough Mexicans to get away - we have more worthy candidates - whiter than snow, softer than featherbed. Jeanne Lollobrigida is resting. But I refused.

- Why?

- They have an entrance - a ruble, an exit - ten. And I didn’t want to work against my country. They will force some other Crimean bridge to blow up. Or a pipeline. It will become of them.

- And the "whiskers" calmly unhooked from you?

- Not really. In retaliation, they pasted on me the nickname “larin-latrine” (“larin is a latrine”) and dispersed it throughout the Russian-speaking community. Which pretty much spoiled my business. I have it, of course, specific - plumbing. Local wits already incline me to all crusts - “The King of Aventura toilets” (The King of Aventura toilets) and something else (Aventura is one of the Russian-speaking areas of Miami).

But I'd rather be the "king of the toilets" than work with the "whiskers". Although they almost brought down my business with their checks. Either doctors, then tax officials, then firefighters ...

But other emigrants agreed. And for them, a completely different life began immediately. Their material well-being grew before our eyes. At first they worked as freelance agents - on a fee. Then staff.

And then those who are smarter went to private intelligence structures. And directly to the CIA. And they left for Ukraine. It is not difficult to guess what they are doing there. These "whiskers" turned my whole soul inside out. And they continue to do so.

Because of them, my family fell apart. Because of them, I quarreled with all my friends from a past life. They feel what I have become here. They call me "Vlasovite", "runner". I was forced to leak all my old connections to the sideburns. After that, you feel like a complete bastard. And longing after that sometimes covers you heavy and unrestrained, like a hangover after a three-day drinking bout.

Sometimes you sit after such an interrogation on the ocean shore, and under the rustle of the waves you remember all your friends from a past life. Some are no longer in this world. I'm not twenty years old either. You think that soon I will come to you, Seryozhka-Bombay, Vovan Zirnaliev, Grouchy-Kubyshka ...

What am I going to tell you all? That I betrayed my homeland, left for a foreign land, so that I could finally get lost here? It turns out that my homeland rejected me, and America did not accept me. I didn’t think that in my old age I would cut through other people’s apartments, blacks and Mexicans in local Khrushchevs would do plumbing.

“Why are you telling me all this, Vladimir Vladimirovich?”

- Consider that I was just confessing. Shifts in the world are tectonic. And all around the country where the bones of my ancestors lie. Now in Russia is the time of heroes and traitors. I know that tens of thousands of potential "Larins" stand in my way. Road to nowhere.
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  1. +26
    29 October 2022 05: 35
    Such an article and Soviet propaganda will envy ... wink
    1. +20
      29 October 2022 06: 24
      It is necessary that such revelations be seen by as many young people as possible, just starting their way in life. There were many such "Larins" in my Soviet youth and youth, and there may be a lot more, especially after the nineties.
      1. -6
        29 October 2022 07: 12
        It is necessary ... to offer him and give him the opportunity to return to his homeland.

        He doesn't belong in Miami.
        1. +22
          29 October 2022 08: 17
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          He doesn't belong in Miami.

          The very place for him is there ... we do not need such people in our homeland.
          1. +2
            29 October 2022 10: 00
            Not everything is so simple and unambiguous in our life. My daughter. three times won the All-Russian Olympiads, graduated from school with a gold medal, entered the budget for law at St. Petersburg University. She graduated with honors from the bachelor's degree, but did not go to the master's program on the budget. I had to go to the law academy in Moscow. Dorms were not given, I had to rent. At the same time, she applied for US law schools. 4 invitations have been sent. I chose New York. It turned out to study there for a year instead of two in Moscow, and the cost of living is about the same. I took the documents in Moscow and graduated from the magistracy in New York. Now he works abroad. That's it.
            1. +10
              29 October 2022 11: 28
              Quote: Silhouette
              I had to go to the law academy in Moscow. Dorms were not given, I had to rent. At the same time, she applied for US law schools.

              That is, it does not matter to her what country's jurisprudence to engage in? Where is more profitable, there and ...? I am not judging, in order to condemn or justify, you need to delve into the details. And there is no such purpose. But you can’t blame your native country for everything that didn’t work out, which I think you are doing - didn’t appreciate your daughter?
              1. +11
                29 October 2022 20: 58
                I do not blame the country. But the daughter's brains were not useful here. The daughter of the vice-mayor of St. Petersburg, who ended up in a privileged category, entered the budget. I don't know exactly which one - the dispossessed, the disabled, or those with many children. Our jurisprudence causes nothing but disgust.
          2. +9
            29 October 2022 11: 40
            He who betrays once will betray twice. You're right.
          3. +4
            31 October 2022 13: 32
            Double-edged stick.
            On the one hand - betrayed, here is your reward.
            On the other hand, how many of these embittered and enlightened ones are there? Let them come back and tell how everything is going on. In the end, the intelligence rule is "there are no scum, there are personnel"
          4. +1
            2 November 2022 10: 11
            One repentant sinner is dearer to the Lord than a thousand immaculate virgins
        2. +5
          29 October 2022 10: 38
          We have toilets for someone to install, and he did not earn a pension for himself
          1. +24
            29 October 2022 11: 47
            Why are plumbers called toilet bowlers? Plumbing is both water and heating ... You know, I live in my own house and I made the entire sewerage and water supply system myself. This is bad? Does this allow you to treat me contemptuously? How many people here can do it themselves? I don't think.
            1. +4
              29 October 2022 11: 50
              He himself is the same, well, the confessor himself drew attention precisely to the toilet bowls
              1. +9
                29 October 2022 12: 06
                Forgive me if anything, I have no complaints against you, I just could not understand such a contemptuous attitude towards plumbers, and here you are with your message. Sorry one more time. Well, let the confessor consider himself a lower caste, this is already a punishment for him ... moral.
                1. +8
                  29 October 2022 12: 13
                  Forgive me if

                  I'm not one of the touchy ones! wink
                  this is a punishment for him

                  that's what we're talking about! We have a good plumber who can earn more than many! and he doesn't consider himself to be someone else
                  1. +9
                    29 October 2022 13: 47
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    good plumber

                    And in Germany?!?
                    Yes, one sentence:
                    *-Das ist fantastic!!!* worth it! laughing
                    1. +6
                      29 October 2022 16: 47
                      Well, these are already multi-stationers, in a way ...
            2. +3
              30 October 2022 12: 40
              Plumbing, electrician are among the professions that cannot be replaced by AI. because these professions are related to building systems.
            3. +2
              1 November 2022 19: 21
              Bad attitude to plumbers is fraught with major troubles! And to the vacuum cleaners and at all ... laughing
            4. +1
              6 November 2022 19: 56
              Cut off toilets and water for those who call them - in a week they themselves will come running. They will also bow to the belt.
              There are no "bad" or "unnecessary" workers and engineering professions.
          2. -3
            1 November 2022 13: 24
            Quote: novel xnumx
            We have toilets for someone to install, and he did not earn a pension for himself

            He earned a pension in the USA. And she is more Russian
        3. +2
          29 October 2022 10: 55
          It is possible, only through mobilization, to redeem with blood and remain alive, receive citizenship.
      2. +3
        29 October 2022 07: 40
        It is necessary that such revelations be seen as much as possible.
        Do not.
        They will laugh.
        And then they will follow in the footsteps of the character.
      3. +12
        29 October 2022 16: 41
        Did you take this opus as a real story?
        1. +2
          29 October 2022 17: 58
          Quote: bk0010
          Did you take this opus as a real story?

          Still 107 clicks. However. laughing
        2. 0
          1 November 2022 13: 27
          Quote: bk0010
          Did you take this opus as a real story?

          Crowds of those who left Russia and the USSR are queuing to return. yes yes
          1. 0
            5 November 2022 22: 22
            Yeah) Of those whom I know or knew, those who returned, just came back for various reasons and could not leave AGAIN, they regret those who did not return, it’s understandable, everything suits)
    2. +16
      29 October 2022 09: 24
      A normal article, even if invented, everything is on point. It was these people who destroyed the USSR. It was the fools who believe that the West is paradise, that cola is nectar, that there is natural sausage, and we have toilet paper, obsessed with jeans, Western music and ready to sell their homeland for chewing gum, destroyed the USSR, under the leadership of Gorbachev, Yeltsin and other abomination. These are the ones who are ready to sell Russia even now, only the level is slightly different: parmesan, Mercedes and hamburgers.
      1. +6
        29 October 2022 11: 29
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        obsessed with jeans, Western music and ready to sell their homeland for chewing gum, they destroyed the USSR,

        They gave birth to both Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
        1. +10
          29 October 2022 16: 38
          Quote: victor50
          obsessed with jeans, Western music and ready to sell their homeland for chewing gum, they destroyed the USSR,

          They gave birth to both Gorbachev and Yeltsin.

          Are they? That is, * Fartsa * and * Stilyagi *? And also lovers of Western music? Well, well. And for some reason I thought that Gorbachev was the flesh of the flesh of the Politburo. Yes, and Gorbachev alone would not have destroyed the Union. Was there a CCP? KGB? I understand that the Gebe could not conduct business against top dignitaries. But could they report?
      2. +8
        29 October 2022 12: 01
        then this
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        West is heaven, cola is nectar
        there was no "feel" in the country and people did not see capitalism "live" .. now everything is not so .. and people younger than 35 have a completely different way of thinking - without Soviet influence - you can’t divorce them for "cola with hamburgers" ...
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        such people are ready to sell Russia even now, only the level is slightly different: parmesan, Mercedes and hamburgers.

        well, there is someone .. but in 93 it was a mass phenomenon among the people .. yes .. based on the lack of the ability to compare and naivety, as a result of this, but it was massive and not at all like in the article, mainly barricades near the White House built, and stupid idealists, mostly of course, there were a lot of scum too .. and they were controlled by enemies .. And now it won’t work like that .. then the system and way of life changed, and now what to change? capitalism is already here, why should they change it when you can buy everything?
      3. +11
        29 October 2022 12: 41
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        A normal article, even if invented, everything is on point.

        Not normal. Propaganda should not be explicit and clumsy. Life is full of examples that can demonstrate all this. And here it is simply impossible not to laugh at the idiocy. He was the director of the plant, and even recruited, and plus, he deliberately went bankrupt and ended up with toilet bowls. Stamps of the worst propaganda.
        1. +9
          29 October 2022 13: 50
          Quote: qqqq
          Stamps of the worst propaganda.

          Here! I absolutely agree with you. Moreover, in the comments, the *author's fiction* of this *Vladimir Vladimirovich* has already been clearly explained. In a word, alas, but clumsy work. bully
      4. -1
        1 November 2022 13: 31
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        A normal article, even if invented, everything is on point. It was these people who destroyed the USSR. It was the fools who believe that the West is paradise, that cola is nectar, that there is natural sausage, and we have toilet paper, obsessed with jeans, Western music and ready to sell their homeland for chewing gum, destroyed the USSR, under the leadership of Gorbachev, Yeltsin and other abomination. These are the ones who are ready to sell Russia even now, only the level is slightly different: parmesan, Mercedes and hamburgers.

        Listen, a person is given one life and he wants to live it humanly. Instead, he is offered some ideas of a general revolution at the sect level. This was already in 1917.
    3. +8
      29 October 2022 12: 08
      That's for sure. Reminds me of our youth.
      Just such publications were distributed
    4. +8
      29 October 2022 12: 16
      Complete ... order. Anyone who has lived at least a little in the United States will understand this in many ways. Into the furnace.
      1. +13
        29 October 2022 14: 26
        Have you noticed that the article does not stick together psychologically?
        I hated the country so much that I couldn’t even eat, left with a brainwashed “larina” (described in detail what it is), and suddenly - there are the bones of my ancestors and ... really I’m going to blow up some Crimean bridge? Doesn't stick! You can still understand about the Crimean Bridge - not a fighter, cowardly, but "bones of ancestors"? Funny!..
        The article is propaganda.
        Many people are now leaving Russia without any brainwashing, entire organizations are leaving and taking out employees. Because for 30 years, part of the people has become firmly integrated into the consumer society, which is international, global and does not accept the framework into which they are going to drive us all. We do not even know what this framework is, but we know what our greedy state is like, which is not in danger of becoming different in the coming years. That means we have capitalism, we have set limits for you, develop within them, as best you can. Then - "and here's a war for you, drop everything, lose your jobs, lose enterprises, lose your work skills (which is especially painful for IT people) and go lay down your lives ..."
        But even if they don’t send them to the front, what if they block the border?
        What if the internet is cut off?
        And people’s business has already reached the international level, salaries come from abroad, profits come, and taxes, by the way, are paid (were paid) here, since the enterprise is localized in Russia ...
        And there, you see, our dear state will destroy all this, it will break all this finely tuned life of people who have already taken place in the profession in their 30s, 40s, or even 50s, and then they will have nothing left but become plumbers without being "larinas".
        I see this in my entryway. In the apartment above, on the 5th floor. Parents in the USSR were engineers, forged the radar shield of the Motherland, and the children? The eldest son became a plumber, drank himself and died of cirrhosis of the liver, and the youngest, already well over forty, works as a janitor. And there are an infinite number of such examples showing how our dear state is able to break a person's life. And since there are many of them, then, seeing this, people, anticipating the next idiotic "tectonic shift" (according to the author), ran abroad. Without any brainwashing by the West. It turned out to be enough pressure on the brains from their own state.
        1. +3
          29 October 2022 17: 39
          Quote: depressant
          radar shield of the Motherland, and the children? The eldest son became a plumber, drank himself and died of cirrhosis of the liver, and the youngest, already well over forty, works as a janitor. And there are an infinite number of such examples showing how our dear state is able to break a person's life.

          And for THIS? For the *education* that they managed to go and *greet*? Submissive servant! No! Yes, and the old one already.
          It’s a pity for the boys. These are the ones who can’t be replenished, the best. For the best die in the war, and this * government * even calls the war a war of strength ... not enough.
        2. 0
          30 October 2022 12: 44
          the reason is not only in the state, but in the lack of flexibility of the mind and unwillingness to change oneself + infantilism.
      2. +3
        29 October 2022 18: 31
        I went to the history section - the most peaceful. Lord, and here is propaganda - are you ofigeli!?
    5. -4
      29 October 2022 14: 25
      Quote: Luminman
      Such an article and Soviet propaganda will envy

      Also a sausage emigrant?
      1. +4
        29 October 2022 18: 03
        Quote: albert
        Also a sausage emigrant?

        What do you understand *sausage emigrant*? There were electric trains at one time, but ... *Sausage emigrant*? Yes, you, my friend, are a pioneer! laughing
    6. +8
      29 October 2022 15: 02
      Such an article and Soviet propaganda will envy ... wink

      Yes, powerful. I remembered my party organizer, broadcasting about the corrupting influence of the film "Star Wars". bully
    7. AUL
      +1
      31 October 2022 19: 37
      Quote: Luminman
      Such an article and Soviet propaganda will envy ...

      It was very reminiscent of a program like "Let them talk" or a bad detective, when the main villain boasts of his crimes before the good hero kills him.
    8. 0
      12 November 2022 20: 20
      I could only read halfway through. Brad is rare. It seems that this is not an author's text, but an interview, but it is too tendentious for a simple person who suddenly opened his eyes.
  2. +18
    29 October 2022 05: 41
    I have repeatedly read similar revelations of runners.
    A whole Russian community has formed there ... they live in their own separate little world.
    People from the American office are even recruiting mercenaries for the Armed Forces of Ukraine from these garbage ... they say one funeral has come.
    In general, nothing new ... only the Russian language remained from them, but otherwise they are emigrant garbage that is not a pity ... well, to hell with them.
    It is a pity that our country and the state spent on their education, treatment, etc. money from our taxes ... we cannot issue it without compensating these costs from our pocket.
    1. +4
      29 October 2022 11: 10
      All these immigrant communities in the US are wretched as hell. From the side you look for a few minutes - they seem to live beautifully. And you get to know each other better - wretchedness is dull. As one American journalist said about the Russian Brighton, "Only by a court verdict would I agree to live there."
      1. +4
        29 October 2022 11: 19
        immigrant communities in the US are wretched as hell.
        It's even worse in England. Therefore, I communicate with Russians exclusively on this forum.
    2. 0
      30 October 2022 12: 46
      he also described his psychotype, nothing personal, just business. the same characters in the "Russian" community and gathered.
    3. +1
      30 October 2022 21: 17
      they cannot be released without compensating these costs from our pocket.
      At one time, this issue was raised because of the Jewish emigration of the late 60s and early 70s, they were required to reimburse fees for Soviet higher education. However, it ended in nothing but a big stink in the Western media.
  3. +19
    29 October 2022 05: 42
    Yes. Directly an article from the past. * Today he dances jazz, and tomorrow he will sell his homeland. * An unknown person approaches a stranger, in an unfamiliar country, and begins to beat his chest?
    "Alas, a stranger to me, for I could become a traitor!" bully
    Is the author not funny himself? And why did this * revelation * fall into the historical section?
    1. +6
      29 October 2022 07: 56
      Yeah. Directly an article from the past.
      Good morning, Sergey! "Penetrated?" I liked the first lines, how the "moral fall" was made, the hero drank, Coca-Cola and listened to Western rock music and watched Hollywood films. Here it is, the foundation of decomposition! "Do not go to school, children, drink Coca-Cola, children!" smile By the way, in the opinion section, an article on a historical topic. wink
      1. +5
        29 October 2022 18: 09
        Quote: parusnik
        of the past.
        Good morning, Sergey! "Penetrated?" I like the first lines

        Good evening Alexey!
        Yes. I was a simple director, but I became an ordinary plumber *? Why? bully
        1. +5
          29 October 2022 18: 52
          What for?
          Probably, the military-political school that the author graduated from makes itself felt. He simply does not know how otherwise. smile
          1. +1
            29 October 2022 18: 57
            Quote: parusnik
            military-political

            Ha, ha, ha, ha!!! I myself entered TVVPSU. I studied, studied, and then .... not mine. No, this is different.
            1. +3
              29 October 2022 19: 08
              VPU air defense acted after Andropov. After successfully passing the exams, he unexpectedly did not pass the medical examination. It was stated authoritatively that they would not be accepted into the army, with my health. However .. two years and where? In the air defense forces! laughing Why, I imagined what kind of crap and probably it’s good that it didn’t grow together ... with health .. laughing
              1. +2
                29 October 2022 19: 22
                Quote: parusnik
                VPU air defense acted after Andropov. After successfully passing the exams, unexpectedly

                The main thing is to understand in time that THIS is not yours. Now? Yes, Lord, it has passed!
              2. +1
                29 October 2022 19: 24
                Quote: parusnik
                health

                Far away, right? Away with????Vladimir Vladimirych!
                1. +5
                  29 October 2022 19: 46
                  Vladimir Vladimirovich!
                  He, I remember how he was still, went to Sobchak's assistants. Not so noticeable .. smile
                  1. +3
                    29 October 2022 19: 54
                    Quote: parusnik
                    , as he still, went to Sobchak's assistants. Not noticeable like that.

                    What an invisible one! Straight *Titanic* .... with a briefcase .... invisible. A man from the KGB! laughing
                    1. 0
                      29 October 2022 19: 58
                      Quote: ArchiPhil
                      КГБ

                      Especially! His women are invisible ... Ksyusha Sobchak. and? Narusova! She is generally ..... invisible and invisible. GDP? bully We don't see.
                  2. 0
                    29 October 2022 20: 01
                    Quote: parusnik
                    Sobchak walked. Not

                    Lyosh! I'm sorry, but I'm ashamed. We are discussing some * Vladimir Vladimirovich *. And he ??? Here. laughing
                  3. +2
                    29 October 2022 20: 14
                    Quote: parusnik
                    .Not noticeable like that ..

                    Grey. Yes? These are the people who came to power. No?
                    1. +2
                      30 October 2022 05: 54
                      Grey. Yes? These are the people who came to power. No?
                      Yes..
    2. +6
      29 October 2022 15: 06
      Is the author not funny himself? And why did this * revelation * fall into the historical section?


      Sergey Vladimirovich, good afternoon!
      This "revelation" got into the historical section because it indirectly describes the break in our history of the early 90s, as well as the previous period of betrayal of our people by the reborn elite of the USSR. He describes rather clumsily, in the expectation that those present at the discussion will angrily stigmatize people whose brains have been brainwashed - no, not by the West, but by the current "native" state, which forced them to leave the country.
      So, due to its inability to ensure the sustainable and safe development of our society, the "native" state was honored to transfer pointing arrows from its own worthlessness both in foreign policy and in domestic policy to people whose only fault is that they believed this state, relied on him, but it turned out - in vain!
      In general, I unsubscribed in the comment above.
      1. +5
        29 October 2022 16: 47
        Quote: depressant
        comments above.

        Good evening Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
        I just came home from work, you know, I'm chasing a long ruble. bully So. This attempt to show a certain mournful path of a certain director who retrained as a plumber is such unsuccessful propaganda that Stanislavsky's immortal phrase is just before my eyes! And after reading, there is no thought to purr to myself * I drank birch sap in the spring forest .... * laughing
        Well, it didn’t work out convincingly for the author, and * Vladimir Vladimirovich *. laughing
    3. +2
      29 October 2022 16: 45
      Quote: ArchiPhil
      Today he dances jazz, and tomorrow he will sell his homeland.

      By the way, the phrase turned out to be prophetic. It was the 60s who listened and danced jazz, they also fell in love with and destroyed the USSR. And from the heights of past years, who turned out to be right?
      1. +6
        29 October 2022 17: 13
        Quote: qqqq
        It was the 60s who listened and danced jazz, they also fell in love with and destroyed the USSR. And from the heights of past years, who turned out to be right?

        And what would Lundstrem answer you? Kozlov? Yes, the same Leonid Utyosov?!?! bully
        Quote: qqqq
        who turned out to be right?

        Who is right? I can’t judge, but? They definitely didn’t destroy a great power. I’m sure.
        1. 0
          29 October 2022 22: 34
          And just the Russophobic policy of the Party and the Government collapsed. Read the statements of Mr. Lenin and other founders about the Russians. The robbery of Russia since the age of 24 in favor of different suburbs, the upbringing of marginal Nazism, the squandering of Russian lands, the soldering of the Russian population, and the propaganda of the manifesto of the "killed" and so on, led to the fact that not a single soldier spoke out for the USSR. Russian soldier. Tired.
        2. 0
          30 October 2022 10: 51
          Quote: ArchiPhil
          Who is right? I can’t judge, but? They definitely didn’t destroy a great power. I’m sure.

          I have nothing against jazz, even though I don't like it. This is where the prophetic quote comes into play. And it was the 60s that were destroyed. In the 60s they were about 20 years old, in the nineties 50-60 it was this party nomenclature that did everything with the help of younger Komsomol leaders.
      2. 0
        1 November 2022 13: 40
        Quote: qqqq
        Quote: ArchiPhil
        Today he dances jazz, and tomorrow he will sell his homeland.

        By the way, the phrase turned out to be prophetic. It was the 60s who listened and danced jazz, they also fell in love with and destroyed the USSR. And from the heights of past years, who turned out to be right?

        The leadership ruined a great power. After all, there was a moment of thaw in relations with the West and the United States in the 70s. All the same, no matter what they say, they just don’t run out of the country
  4. +1
    29 October 2022 05: 44
    Yes, a strange world - "darkness".
    Thanks to the author for sharing his story with us.
    1. -1
      29 October 2022 06: 13
      Yes, a strange world - "darkness"

      I correct - Someone else's soul is dark, and someone else's world is a garbage dump.
      hi
    2. +2
      29 October 2022 19: 25
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      history

      What? You are my friend, but .... bully
      1. +2
        29 October 2022 20: 40
        Quote: ArchiPhil
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        history

        What? You are my friend, but .... bully

        Alien, of course Sergey.
        I am not interested in the plot and conjectures and conclusions of the Author. Snot, drool and soap do not even touch me lately.
        In his work I see or want to see something else. Breaking even for the sake of good - you can’t build good. Another reason to think about yourself. No more, no less.
        Sincerely.
  5. +4
    29 October 2022 05: 45
    Everyone chooses for themselves
    woman, religion, road.
    Serve the devil or the prophet -
    everyone chooses for himself.
    He chose, now, in the shower, crying.
  6. +1
    29 October 2022 05: 55
    Here is the paradox. Well, the Russian became a traitor... And still remained Russian. It's like a proverb. "You can take a girl out of a village, but you can't take a village out of a girl!"
    1. +5
      29 October 2022 07: 47
      Who did he become?! laughing laughing laughing
      True, I then bankrupted the plant.
      1. +4
        29 October 2022 16: 22
        Did he drink the money? Or was the enterprise small and the money was only enough for plumbing?
        1. 0
          29 October 2022 19: 32
          Quote: vladcub
          just for plumbing?

          Enough for the article. For the article.
      2. +1
        29 October 2022 17: 17
        Quote: aars
        Who did he become?!

        An ordinary American plumber. Not even * ist fantastic *. It happens. He is not the first, he is not the last. If? In general ... he was. And not the author's fantasy. bully
      3. 0
        30 October 2022 09: 26
        "True, I later bankrupted the plant ..." - with whom, for whom and by whose order ???
  7. +2
    29 October 2022 05: 57
    All these "larins" are strange .... I, they say, went for a long ruble, and a better life, and they brainwash me here and offer to betray my former homeland .... and after a while, I realized that they were using me stupidly, but I’m so good, and I graduated from the Baumanka Institute of Physics and Technology, and I was a big boss ... and they mark me as saboteurs here ... ANYWAY YOU PANIM, yes .... and what did you want ... giving once ...
    1. AUL
      +3
      31 October 2022 20: 03
      And you believed this stupid agitation? These were in use in the late 80s.
  8. +1
    29 October 2022 06: 09
    Quote: Shket53
    what did you want ... once giving ...

    The hopes of young men feed ...
    I wanted to become rich, successful, promising in a foreign land ... yeah, they are waiting there with flowers. laughing
    1. +1
      29 October 2022 19: 29
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      those with flowers

      Lyosh! Well, brother, stop it, huh? The article is weak? No? The author? Is he there? There are comments. Well, that's all. What to discuss?
  9. +13
    29 October 2022 06: 32
    I read this advertising splint and an association was formed:
    1. +8
      29 October 2022 07: 06
      Do you recognize?
      Lives in Miami... now a US citizen.
      He does what he always liked to do there ... to spoil Russia.

      I hope to see him in a coffin in white slippers.
      1. +14
        29 October 2022 07: 44
        Five vice-premiers of the Russian government are there.
        Not ordinary ministers.
        1. +2
          29 October 2022 07: 57
          Quote: aars
          Five vice-premiers of the Russian government are there.
          Not ordinary ministers.

          Is there something smeared with honey?
          1. +2
            29 October 2022 14: 32
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            Is there something smeared with honey?

            No, there is another substance.
        2. +2
          29 October 2022 08: 52
          Quote: aars
          Five vice-premiers of the Russian government are there.
          Not ordinary ministers.

          One way or another, their biographies have something in common with the biography of the hero of the article. Except for his late repentance.
          1. +6
            29 October 2022 15: 28
            One way or another, their biographies have something in common with the biography of the hero of the article. Except for his late repentance.

            No, Dima, the difference is that the hero of the article, having bankrupted the enterprise, enriched himself little and therefore quickly ate his money abroad. And these 5 vice-premiers, apparently, stole so much that it will be enough not only for them, but also for descendants up to the tenth generation.
            Therefore, these five do not need to work, but the character from the article had to. But he can do nothing but bankrupt enterprises. Unless you fix toilets. I suppose he just didn’t have the talent of a propagandist, the Americans sent him in FIG as unsuitable material, so he whined about the "bones of the ancestors." There is no repentance, do not look!
            1. +3
              29 October 2022 15: 44
              Hello Lyudmila Yakovlevna hi! It was necessary, of course, to quote about repentance! It is caused by dissatisfaction with one's life or envy of others. How many of them there were, such young active directors, and how many of them are now trying to bring the country to bankruptcy. I remember at one time they were surprised at the rapid rise from nowhere, literally, of one character. And here's what.
              I wonder how the redhead is? As they wrote, He was initiated in Italy. I thought---God's punishment.
            2. +1
              29 October 2022 17: 20
              Quote: depressant
              the hero of the article, having bankrupted the enterprise,

              * Was there Korotin? *
              But the author excited many. Not everyone succeeds, really! laughing
              1. +3
                29 October 2022 17: 39
                But the author excited many. Not everyone succeeds, really!


                Do you know why he did it? For distraction! For there are two groups of fugitives, one of them partly suffers hardship and humiliation, partly does not live in poverty, but ...
                And the other group consists of these:
                For many days our great power has been following the patriotic adventures of Vladimir Yakunin’s son detained in Norway, Putin’s ally, “man-locomotive”, the former head of Russian Railways, who seemed to have jumped off Putin’s train flying to disaster in time.

                The patriotic Yakunin has a son Andrei - not only a Russian, but also a British citizen, detained in Norway for launching a drone:

                "Andrew, a British citizen, is fully cooperating with the authorities to provide all necessary information about the innocent purposes of his boating vacation."

                Obtaining citizenship in the West for the children of the authorities was the most patriotic act. Being a foreign resident is not prohibited. The Russian authorities do not put the stigma of a foreign agent on such people.

                This is what, according to him, Russian patriot Andrei Yakunin was busy with during the “bloody special operation” of his father’s patron:

                “I just enjoyed my holiday in Norway… Flying an amateur drone is not a crime…”

                Why is Andrey Yakunin not in the trenches of the “special operation”? Why doesn’t it launch its “amateur drones” (of which the Russian army is terribly lacking) on ​​Ukrainian positions? Why isn't he "enjoying the rest" under the fire of "Haymars" in the Donetsk region?

                Here it is - the truth for you, viewers of propaganda channels: your children must die in Ukraine so that the children of the Yakunins enjoy their vacation in the West. Which you are taught more than anything in the world to hate.


                This is the text from the cart with Sickle Po.
                We are persistently required to pour out our anger on people deceived by the state, confused, unprepared to take a turn in the direction of hostilities that began without any warning, but in fact - in the direction of small fry. But such runners are different, and do not dare, lackeys, turn angry glances in the direction of well-fed and smooth majors, because this is different!
                1. +3
                  30 October 2022 21: 30
                  Lyudmila Yakovlevna, good evening. I don’t communicate with people like the author, I communicate with those who quit our office, running away for a long ruble. So to speak, a traitor on a smaller scale. And all of them hate us, who remained in the 90s to work for pennies, because we did not betray the idea, we have it, but they don’t. They feel their misery. In every possible way they savor various stupid tricks of our leadership (and there are enough of them). And all because the revival of the country will come from us, not from them. They try to convince themselves of their "rightness", but it turns out badly. And about the note - it was written by a person who did not know the realities of the 70-80s (if his father was a front-line soldier, then he should have studied in the 70s). What is written there could only have been in the 90s, I have already indicated this.
        3. +1
          29 October 2022 19: 45
          Quote: aars
          Not ordinary ministers
          This. This says a lot. And what the author is trying to offer us .... Not worth ... discussion. For? There was. Not an author. Not .... * Vladimir Vladimirovich *. Nonsense.
      2. +3
        29 October 2022 07: 45
        Kozyrev is married to the granddaughter of A.A. Gromyko. Gorbachev became General Secretary with the suggestion and consent of A.A. Gromyko.
        Tell me who is your friend
        And I'll tell you who you are
        (popular wisdom)
        1. +1
          29 October 2022 11: 33
          Quote: Amateur
          Kozyrev is married to the granddaughter of A.A. Gromyko. Gorbachev became General Secretary with the suggestion and consent of A.A. Gromyko.
          Tell me who is your friend
          And I'll tell you who you are
          (popular wisdom)

          And is it his grandfather's fault that we had Gaidar at the top after perestroika?
          1. +2
            29 October 2022 14: 01
            "the top was Gaidar, his grandfather is to blame?"
            he is not his grandfather. egorka impostor
            1. -1
              29 October 2022 17: 20
              Quote: aglet
              he is not his grandfather. egorka impostor

              It is not important in this case how the latter ended up in the family.
          2. +4
            29 October 2022 16: 04
            "with the consent of Gromyko," in fact, Andrei Alexandrovich Gromyko was an intelligent uncle. Talented Diplomat
        2. +2
          29 October 2022 16: 26
          Wrong Victor. hi , with the filing of Andropov.
      3. +2
        29 October 2022 08: 27
        I hope to see him in a coffin in white slippers

        Better in a cesspool. And no slippers...
        1. -1
          29 October 2022 19: 47
          Quote: Luminman
          Better in a cesspool. And no slippers...

          Why? Is it worth it?
          1. +1
            29 October 2022 19: 56
            Why? Is it worth it?

            Purely indicative action. To make others feel bad...
            1. +2
              29 October 2022 20: 07
              Quote: Luminman
              others were disrespectful

              My friend! *This*? Don't care. You just vented your anger. Yes! hi
              1. +1
                29 October 2022 20: 51
                You just vented your anger

                Not anger at all. Preludely cracking down on garbage is a completely rational act, excluding further repetition ...
            2. 0
              29 October 2022 20: 10
              Quote: Luminman
              disrespectfully

              In principle? What a pity that the generation of Che Guevara has left. And? Kastra!
  10. +9
    29 October 2022 06: 55
    I do not even know. The amers have a relative, his story is somehow muddy and interesting. Well, here, too, it’s like propaganda ... Well, firstly, the director and all that, i.e. I wouldn’t have left just like that... Secondly, as I understood, a person from the Union, and studied in Baumenka, but there everyone was under the control of the KGB, he was visible! Thirdly, the author himself gave a characterization that amers don’t smell of money, and he has a company, by the way, who doesn’t remember, then in the Plumber Union it was still that king! How is the comedian - SAN technician (in Japanese, very worthy)! So it's not poor. Fourthly, the author's show off, they say he was personally led by the CIA, what a valuable shot he is! Director! The fact that he knows the situation is a fact, but the fact that, like a true Ukrainian, a peasant thinks about his trousers, which are the most beautiful on the farm and all the girls in his city ... Looks like ordinary recruiters recruit Wagner among the "locals" and work in our style: whip + gingerbread! And given the attitude of amers to those who have come in large numbers (we are no worse!) ..... In general, everything is clear!
  11. 0
    29 October 2022 07: 00
    "I betrayed the car, the Motherland" (c)
  12. fiv
    +2
    29 October 2022 07: 05
    There is little money in your pocket - a bad mood, a lot - good, and your conscience will be silent. The usual thing. The only business is to return and love the Motherland in the national economy. But that's all - hangover chatter, it's empty. Long gone. It's not curable
  13. +3
    29 October 2022 07: 38
    I have always liked the West. I loved wearing jeans, listening to Deep Purple and the Rolling Stones, Smokie and Sinatra.
    He's not the only one.
    There was no PR in the USSR, and propaganda was frankly sucky - slogans, pictures on stands, political information ...

    But in general, the article is not convincing.
  14. 0
    29 October 2022 08: 03
    The women repent, the girls are going to get married.
  15. +6
    29 October 2022 08: 09
    Ha.
    arrived, achieved nothing without education, now the CIA is to blame for him.

    How much before Z was there an outflow of people with higher education? According to the President of the Academy of Sciences? like 100k a year
    and something even cheers-media does not describe how many of them are plumbing.
    Goblin only talks about Ukrainians - they say toilets are being changed in Poland, but ... without a single example ...

    A classmate went there. Medic. Passed all medicine. now a doctor.
    and his older brother and father could not settle down. The competition is high for education.
    Already familiar in Germany and Switzerland. They work by education. Phys-Mat.
    Not a single familiar plumber there ...
    1. +2
      29 October 2022 14: 23
      exodus of people with higher education?
      And how many among the flowing banal lawyeromists laughing ?
      1. +1
        29 October 2022 22: 28
        Duc, it was before Z. Lawyers advisers all sit in Russia in warm places.
        And the academician did not talk about it. I suspect he didn't care.
    2. 0
      29 October 2022 18: 41
      Quote: Max1995
      and something even cheers-media does not describe how many of them are plumbing.

      Apparently in the West, engineering work is paid higher than work in intelligence. According to academician Simon Shnol in Pushchino, 10-30 years ago, graduate students of the local biological university were a parable in languages, how poor a Russian citizen can be. The hero of the essay quickly switched to administrative work in the Union and lost the ability to work as an engineer. On the other hand, until 1991, the KGB made it very difficult for students and engineers to communicate with foreigners. practically making them impossible on a regular basis.
  16. +16
    29 October 2022 08: 57
    Father - a front-line soldier, participant in the assault on Sapun Mountain, holder of the Order of the Red Banner. I graduated from the local physics and mathematics school, entered the capital's Baumanka.
    This means that now the interlocutor is over 60 years old. That is, he studied at the Baumanka in the 70s. There was no Coca-Cola in the USSR at that time; there was Pepsi-Cola since 1976. In the 70s and early 80s, in principle, he could not become a "Larin", especially when working in a box.
    Even in Baumanka, the Americans got me hooked on thieves' courses - Miami is luring.
    Complete nonsense. If it was, then in the 90s. Yet again,
    And many of my fellow Bauman students in Russia have made a brilliant career during this time.
    That eats a subject, except for a career, nothing is needed at all, the Americans are bad because they did not offer a career.
    This is despite the fact that at one time I went from foreman to plant director. True, I then bankrupted the plant.
    And why did you screw up in the USA? They still live well here.
    Conclusion from everything. If this is the confession of the one who has fallen asleep, then there are a lot of temporal inconsistencies. Or maybe everything is an essay on a free theme.
    1. +9
      29 October 2022 09: 17
      I completely agree with what was written, it looks like an "essay on a given topic" .. why should the director run away, he is well fed here too .. and a career, etc. according to the specialty received from us - 3 out of 7, of those whom I immediately remembered .. IT and 2 health workers, 2 at the factory, after graduating from something like a vocational school, 1 in the police and 1 taxi driver ... no one is going back for good - to visit travel regularly..
      1. +2
        29 October 2022 11: 37
        Quote: Level 2 Advisor

        I completely agree with what was written, it looks like an "essay on a given topic" .. why should the director run away, he is well fed here too .. and a career, etc. .. quite a lot of acquaintances in the USA and the EU

        You didn't read the article carefully. His "flight" is easy to explain - contempt for the country and people turning into hatred. He speaks directly about this.
        1. +8
          29 October 2022 13: 21
          contempt for the country and people turning into hatred. He speaks directly about this.
          Hates, naturally. There was no Coca-Cola, that's why. I have already pointed out inconsistencies in the events. The only thing that seems to be true is the characteristics of American Hispanics. He came up with a father-front-line soldier (and why? - studying for "Larin" does not fit in, it could only be from the age of 89, not earlier). It could well crawl out to the head of the enterprise in those troubled years, but, most likely, this is fiction. And certainly does not fit in with work in the states as a grand plumber. It seems that the realities are like this - they kicked him out of the Moscow Higher Technical School, moved to the USA and became the local plumbing king. The rest is voiced dreams. And the USSR and the Russian Federation oppressed him, "he could not even eat" (Mimino).
          1. +3
            29 October 2022 15: 55
            Kamrad Aviator, it is quite possible that he didn’t have enough mind for the “Bauman” and moved to the States. And then there was an essay on the theme "daughter of the chamberlain on the panel" here and the father-front-line soldier. However, the front-line soldiers were also different: one on the front line, and the other in the rear. I knew one such "front-line soldier" of the escort unit at the tribunal "fought." Not about this conversation. Hence the "director" of the enterprise.
            "I bankrupted him," and drank the money and bought plumbing for the rest? Or was the enterprise, like "Horns and Hooves"? Then, of course, I didn’t have a lot of bankruptcy. Here's to plumbing
            1. +3
              29 October 2022 16: 22
              Svyatoslav, all this, of course. essay on a free topic. And there is nothing to discuss here - the only plausible facts are hatred for everything Soviet and the American dream in my head. About the bauman. My friend had a son who studied at Moscow Higher Technical School in the early 90s, then ended up in France on a student exchange (I don’t know which university), in the end, they seemed to kick him out of there, then he didn’t want to return, he went to the French legion, served in French Guiana in the protection of the cosmodrome, then returned to Russia and was very surprised when he received a summons to our army. How it all ended, I don't know. This is the "holy 90s".
    2. +9
      29 October 2022 10: 00
      Or maybe everything is an essay on a free theme.
      So it can be seen from the text, music, God bless it, but Hollywood films, you can count them on the fingers, which were shown in the USSR in the 70s, early 80s. And even then these films were not about a "beautiful" life. Yes, and with coca it's true.
    3. +4
      29 October 2022 11: 38
      Quote: Aviator_
      Complete nonsense. If it was, then in the 90s.

      Maybe the author tested the level of intelligence of readers? lol
      1. +6
        29 October 2022 13: 27
        Maybe the author tested the level of intelligence of readers?
        Too complicated for a grand plumber.
  17. +5
    29 October 2022 09: 14
    If at the beginning of the article there is no explanation that the editors know the name, patronymic and surname of the person representing himself only as Vladimir Vladimirovich, then such an article can and should be considered as the author's writings.
    As for the topic of the essay, it must first be stated that in the USSR the training of specialists with higher education proceeded from the general policy "over the plan and a five-year plan for three years." That is, universities graduated from those that were supposed to be only tractor drivers and milkmaids. The benefits from them would then be realistic. And those millions who graduated from universities every year had to be stuffed somewhere. By the way, it started under Khrushchev. Under Stalin, this was not the case. What benefit will such Vladimir Vladimirovich bring to the "mailbox" if, during his studies at the university, a substance has formed in his head that makes him understand that there is happiness to live only where and when there is chewing gum, jeans, rock'n'roll, Pepsi and a lot of money . And it would be quite strange if the special. services of the West would not be interested in such people.
    As for the Andropov KGB, which had its agents in all universities, then what do you want from such a KGB if he overslept and did not calculate the Pepsi, chewing gum, rags and candy wrappers of the West loyal to Gorbachev, Rais Gorbachev, Yakovlev, Yeltsin, etc. If the KGB did not notice such "wolves", then what do you want about small "mice", like Vladimir Vladimirovich represented in this essay.
    So the country would still be great even now if Gorbachev would have remained a combine operator, and would not have gone to the university. It was his place in the combine. But here he is
    an adherent of the rows of loafers and balabol entered the university, and now we have what we have. And all because the Committee responsible for state security did not catch mice ...
    1. +3
      29 October 2022 13: 30
      If at the beginning of the article there is no explanation that the editors know the name, patronymic and surname of the person representing himself only as Vladimir Vladimirovich, then such an article can and should be considered as the author's writings.
      Perhaps he is part of the editorial staff.
    2. +2
      29 October 2022 15: 35
      "I didn't catch mice" actually, it began under Stalin, when a career and prosperity went to the desk ticket in the appendage.
      It seems that Mikoyan read that the number of party members increased sharply in the middle and late 20s.
      In the Civil War, being a Bolshevik was not "profitable", but risky. Therefore, at that time the parties were ideological people, but in the middle and late 20s. Party membership - career advancement. Party "purges" of course reduced the number of "stuck", but especially cunning ones slipped through. Through the "sieve", while the ideological ones were at the head of the party, the "stickers" were silent, and then ....
    3. 0
      29 October 2022 18: 49
      Quote: north 2
      So the country would still be great even now if Gorbachev would have remained a combine operator, and would not have gone to the university.

      Gorbachev's father was not the last person on his collective farm. After the Prague Spring, the Soviet authorities encouraged communist parents to send their children to universities. Our history teacher drummed into our heads in the lessons of the history of modern times that the Prague Spring happened only because there was no civil war in Czechoslovakia after the revolution, and the sons of workers, even who had become secretaries of the party districts, went to work like fathers at the factory, providing the opportunity to enter the Czech or Slovak university for the sons of the former owners and managers of the plant.
  18. +4
    29 October 2022 09: 15
    The only thing that can be said about this writing is to quote Serov's Encyclopedic Dictionary of Winged Words and Expressions.
    "Spreading cranberries" - a common noun for all sorts of ridiculous fiction.
    1. +1
      29 October 2022 15: 15
      About the "cranberry" almost agree.
  19. +1
    29 October 2022 11: 05
    At one time, the Anti-Zionist Committee of the USSR published a White Book, a purely propaganda material about the plight of Jews who left the USSR for Israel.
    I have the impression that the material from there only changed the time, place and surnames.
    Only I know more than one successful example of emigration both to the USA and to Israel, and none of the people I know who went there were forced to do anything there. People quite successfully implemented themselves there. Without any special services and recruiting.
    Anyone who has a head on his shoulders and is really a pro in his craft, for example, a qualified welder and there he will be quite successful within his competence and professional workshop without any CIA, Mossad or Mi-6
  20. +3
    29 October 2022 11: 49
    It's hard to read, even harder to put yourself in the place of that Larin
  21. 0
    29 October 2022 11: 51
    Quote: MakStVik
    It is possible, only through mobilization, to redeem with blood and remain alive, receive citizenship.

    It seems to me that this one will not refuse, only now the incident, apparently, his age will not allow him
  22. +3
    29 October 2022 13: 05
    In different years, news and assessments were heard from people who moved to continental Europe, England, the USA, Canada. Some are happy, some are not. Someone has returned.
    A man who lived in Germany for two years stated categorically that he would not want to live there permanently. Although he does not exclude that he could conclude a temporary work contract for 1-2 years. But only on the condition that you have to live in a large million-plus city, where there is a Russian community.
    I remember the story of another person around 2017 about a trip to provincial America, where he was struck by the wretchedness and poverty of life.
    This year, someone living in Canada said that the decision to leave Russia was the biggest mistake of my life. But there is no intention to return yet. Although this is not excluded in principle. The same person said earlier that none of those who returned to Russia regretted it.
    This is just information for those who seriously believe that "in the West" everything is fine.
    1. +4
      29 October 2022 13: 29
      "in the West" everything is fine.
      The standard of living here is still higher. One thing is curious - 2 opposite cries are heard in Runet:
      1. smile .There, port wine flows from the taps, everyone has villas and garages with 5 cars, they pay malyaon for an hour of idleness, and they are waiting for immigrants, they can’t wait to bestow all this.
      2. sad There, evil blacks with drugs and fighting gays with pink mops walk the streets, there is nothing to eat, organs are cut out in hospitals for non-payment, and newcomers are shot from anti-aircraft mortars. In addition, there is no sewerage in London (the local forum general even tried to prove it to me in all seriousness).
      An adequate perception of reality is practically invisible and inaudible. Why did it happen?
      1. +4
        29 October 2022 13: 41
        I'm not going to judge everyone. Different people, different perceptions. For someone, a higher standard of living was a decisive factor and he is satisfied. Someone (according to him) could not endure the materialism and practicality of life there and he returned (from Germany). For some, isolation from the Russian cultural environment turned out to be too much of an ordeal.
        Someone is glad of any opportunity to speak Russian, so as not to forget the language. He takes it as a gift.
        1. +3
          29 October 2022 13: 47
          could not bear the materialism and practicality of life there
          And in Russia, he warmed himself with cosmic ether and ate prana belay ?
          1. +2
            29 October 2022 13: 50
            I reproduced his answer about the reasons for the return.
            1. +2
              29 October 2022 14: 05
              response about the reasons for the return.
              In 9 cases out of 10, this is the collapse of overestimated (often to an inadequate level) expectations of future acquisitions from your move.
      2. +2
        29 October 2022 15: 10
        What do you think? I do not undertake to explain anything.
        Most likely there will be several reasons, and each reason has its own sub-cause
        1. +2
          29 October 2022 15: 31
          What do you think?
          I am guessing. There are practically no adequate estimates.
  23. +4
    29 October 2022 13: 29
    Comrades, when I read this article, let's say so unexpected, I always recalled the films: "Resident's Mistake", "Resident's Collapse" and there was some other film of the early 60s. There was also a song that was so poignant. About longing for the Motherland.
    I just thought: there were 3 noticeable "waves" of emigrants: "white", those can be understood. The revolution and Civil War turned life inside out and people could not find a place for themselves in the new Russia. Among the first wave, there were a variety of people: some went into the service of Hitler, the bulk of the emigration despised the like. Among those who went to the service of Hitler, there were complete scum and there were relatively decent ones who, by chance, went to serve Hitler.
    The Great Patriotic War. It also turned life upside down, many, not of their own free will, ended up abroad, and for various reasons, but remained abroad.
    3rd "denim" period of the 70-80s. There will be a lot of "lari". Perhaps, in percentage terms, more than in the "white" and "military". Because they consciously followed the "American dream"
    And perhaps the 4th wave. After the collapse of the USSR, but I don’t know how to call them. Perhaps "homeless"? In the Union they were at home. The union was gone and could not find themselves in the "post-union" period.
    I don’t know much about them and I won’t judge how much there will be: "Lari"
    1. +2
      29 October 2022 13: 44
      Quote: vladcub
      3rd "denim" period of the 70-80s.

      Hello, Glory.
      Well, what kind of * denim *? Third, it’s also * Jewish *. Tokarev * Over the Hudson * heard? laughing
      1. +3
        29 October 2022 14: 56
        Sergey, welcome. Just coincides with the "jeans era" - the 70s.
        I don't remember the song above "Over the Hudson".
        I have a problem with music: "a bear in my ear, tap danced", I can't sing at all, but please listen to good songs.
        Perhaps I'm getting old, I went to my seventh decade, but I began to forget or confuse performers. I may have heard it, but I confuse it with songs from other performers.
        Kostya will not let you lie, at that time, there were many bright performers: Vysotsky, Tokarev, "Aquarium" Galician, just the period: 70-early 80s, and then bright names disappeared.
      2. +1
        29 October 2022 16: 44
        Al Capone was not too smart a person to give such pearls to the surface

        That's why this scribbler offended a man, that Alik did something bad to him? As for the "pearls", Capone had enough of them for any occasion. laughing



        For example, this, well, who among those present has not heard this phrase. wink
        1. +2
          29 October 2022 17: 26
          Quote: Sea Cat
          this phrase

          The author and * Vladimir Vladimirovich * are simply not familiar with the work of Mr. Capone. Or? Well, it happens. recourse
          1. +2
            29 October 2022 17: 36
            .Or?


            That's it, most likely just "or". bully drinks
          2. 0
            31 October 2022 10: 03
            Or do not want to know ya. They think they are smarter
    2. 0
      30 October 2022 21: 39
      3rd "denim" period of the 70-80s. There will be a lot of "lari".
      Phil is right, it's not denim, it's Jewish. And no "lari" before the 90s, in principle, could not be.
  24. +3
    29 October 2022 16: 37
    For the most part, all the Baumans were ardent patriots.


    Bredyatin. Patriots of what or whom? Port wine, for example, was highly respected. laughing
    I myself did not study in Baumanka, but I had friends there, just in the mid-seventies. They were at KVENs and other cabals, there could be no talk of any patriotism, rather an anti-Soviet, they were all literate and educated guys, what the hell fanaticism could be there! laughing drinks
    1. +2
      29 October 2022 17: 31
      Quote: Sea Cat
      and educated guys, what the hell fanaticism could be there!

      Lord! Yes, who in the late seventies did not listen to Western music? Who? Is Andrei Makarevia an outcast now, but then? Yes, and now. Well, who doesn’t like his past songs? Who doesn’t purr to himself “puppets”? many others. Who? I don’t even want to talk about Shevchuk!
      1. +2
        29 October 2022 17: 38
        And again, you're right, I've had four magicians since the beginning of the sixties, and there were no Soviet songs on the records, but to hell, everyone was tired of them on the radio. bully
        1. +2
          29 October 2022 17: 51
          Quote: Sea Cat
          hell, they are tired of everyone on the radio.

          Well, yes. *Bam, bam, bam, bam! These happy rails .... *
          To be honest, nostalgia still hits, yes! But for the soul? Makar, Shevchuk and? Sometimes ... * Where the maple rustles .... * bully
          1. +2
            29 October 2022 18: 10
            Yes, damn it, nostalgia is a terrible thing! Sometimes even rolls on the port wine "Iveria". laughing Remember youth... drinks
    2. +1
      30 October 2022 21: 46
      I myself did not study in Baumanka, but I had friends there, just in the mid-seventies. They had them at KVENs and other cabals, there could be no talk of any patriotism, rather an anti-Soviet, they were all literate and educated guys,
      I didn’t study at Moscow Higher Technical School either, but my school friend studied there (our fathers served together in the Far East, then in Orenburg, Borka and I went to the same kindergarten and school). Often visited there in 76-78 years. I did not notice any anti-Sovietism. That's when I was at Moscow State University, there the rotten frondery was like a pearl, but not in the Baumanka. However, there was a resolution of the Central Committee in 1976 on strengthening ideological work in universities based on the results of an audit of the Saratov University and Moscow Higher Technical School, because of which we had to take the state exam in scientific communism. This is 1977. before it was just an exam.
      1. +1
        30 October 2022 21: 51
        Well, yes, the time is almost the same. And if not anti-Soviet, then there was a critical attitude to everything there. drinks
        1. +1
          30 October 2022 22: 00
          There was also a critical attitude at the Physicotechnical Institute. But before the idiotic university posturing, ostentatious "opposition" we never slipped. drinks
  25. +2
    29 October 2022 21: 25
    The struggle between good and evil goes on constantly in the world and in every soul. There is always a choice.
    1. +2
      29 October 2022 21: 46
      You can’t become famous for good deeds, therefore it’s a struggle.
      Betrayal, perjury has always been the most terrible crime in Russia (and not only). There can be no forgiveness for this. God will forgive.
  26. +1
    29 October 2022 21: 42
    What for us the confession of the traitor Vladimir Vladimirovich?!
  27. +2
    30 October 2022 00: 16
    Here is after all what kunshtuk!
    Some Mexican, Iraqi, or even French traitor there - he is, as it were, natural, like that, without complexes.
    And a real Russian traitor - he is reflective, everything is tormented. How are the bones of the ancestors ...
    Although, while the ancestors are alive, their bones do not touch him much, and once again they will not call to find out if they are sick from the weather, or if they have broken in an attempt to climb to wash the windows or when going for kefir on ice.
    Oblivion is like this, and there is an ancient name - a monster, that is, one whom, for some reason, the tribe cast out and forgot - there is no such thing. And, perhaps, to die from Russian artillery somewhere near Kupyansk for such a former Russian mercenary staff of the West is the best cure for the torment of conscience?
  28. +2
    30 October 2022 00: 39
    The text gives the impression of a story cobbled together from several real biographies, due to the ambiguity of which only the ideologically necessary pieces were selected from them. Psychologically, they do not fit in any way. The result is a story that evokes disbelief. The effect for doubters will be the opposite, and for those who are not predisposed to a critical look, more emotional reviews always serve as a guide -
    like some comments here. After all, their authors are not always idiots - they just have such manuals. The text of the article in this regard is not so emotional, and in theory is designed for thinking people, but it is they who can be rejected by a sense of the artificiality of the story told.
    Although the details of emigrant life and in particular the processing of the "Larins" are quite believable. But these are not the touches that give vitality to the story.
  29. 0
    30 October 2022 16: 50
    Now in Russia is the time of heroes and traitors.

    Now is the time to collect the Stones.
  30. +2
    30 October 2022 17: 12
    Yes ...
    Almost until the middle of 2014, i.e. for almost a quarter of a century, the Russian propaganda machine raised adherents of the Western worldview to a pedestal, and then suddenly - just suddenly - began to try to destroy this very pedestal. In the blink of an eye, all the "talking heads" began to see (or repainted?!) and began to stigmatize Western Sodom and Gomorrah.
    The most important question is when were they sincere? Then or now?
  31. +4
    30 October 2022 20: 03
    VK has a page of a countryman, a hitchhiker. Traveled half the world. And I managed to visit the USA before a strong cooling. And he met there "the former director, now almost a bum" in an emigre environment.
    The story is very similar, except for "larin, betrayal". It's just that here he could be a director, stupidly sitting in a chair. There it is necessary to move like a squirrel, even the director, otherwise their American colleagues will be "devoured".
    1. 0
      6 November 2022 16: 57
      In America, the average hard worker (say, in a company that installs burglar alarms) earns 50-70% of the salary. director. In Russia - well, if 5-10%. This is the difference.
  32. +2
    31 October 2022 02: 43
    How is it with the author of the article, he loved jeans, Coca-Cola, music and Hollywood .. Like millions of my peers, I also used to be a fan of rock, blues, etc. I wore wranglers sewn in Odessa, a hairstyle for the Beatles .. And when I fell catastrophe noodles from the ears at the sight of a drunken drunk in the new government, I was very sorry that I didn’t go to defend the white house and my government. How do I feel about these losers? In two ways, now these agents from that muddy time, trained by foreign special services in our country, sit at the level of the leadership of large companies and influence government decisions .. So we have "koli boys" crying in the restored Reichstag about the fate of "poor unfortunate Wehrmacht prisoners at the construction sites of the USSR.
  33. +2
    2 November 2022 09: 32
    This topic is very relevant today...
    but judging by the responses - either everyone is on salary or pink glasses are not removed
    the topic is extremely important in the absence in the country - no, more precisely in my homeland - of a coherent ideology, except - "loot decides everything", or as the author wrote - "nothing personal, just business."
    The NWO has been going on for 9 months, and people (officials, deputies, etc. with their families) do not consider it necessary to turn their faces towards the Motherland ... they always face only their own interests!
    That's all.
  34. 0
    2 November 2022 14: 55
    A huge number of those who left are just losers and nonentities. These nonentities themselves will never be recognized in their degenerateness and wretchedness. If only because the decision to emigrate was the only serious decision in their lives. Many, by the way, have lost much in social status. I can say about one woman: she was an architect, and now a “give-bring” works in a snack bar. Another couple from New York complains about the BLM movement and impudent blacks. Another woman who came to her daughter in Seattle fell into the covid restrictions and the wave of lawlessness of the BLM. Later, the son-in-law, accompanying her to the airport, drove by detours, well-armed. One word: the American dream)) Now all that remains is to howl at the moon, looking at the picturesque sea. There are also those who were so brainwashed by American propaganda that they are now ready to repent before the Ukrainians more trenchantly than the WASPs before the blacks)) Degenerates, in a word.
    1. -1
      3 November 2022 08: 03
      Quote: Alevil
      A huge number of those who left are just losers and nonentities.

      you yourself have achieved something - to have the right to write like that?
      1. +2
        3 November 2022 09: 27
        I am a good specialist in the field (technical), which I have been doing for a long time. There was a period of time when the work of one enterprise (rather not a small one) depended on me and I successfully coped, although it was not easy. This is enough for you to know.
        And I know pretty well about the ordeal of emigrants. Well... They chose the "kingdom of freedom" - that's how they should be. But there is an outlet. They can write from behind the hillock, what kind of indecency we are here and what kind of "great democracy and opportunity" they have there. Even now there is an opportunity to feel sorry for the Ukrainian.
        Well, you yourself have achieved a lot, dare I ask? Or are you one of those too?
        1. 0
          3 November 2022 10: 56
          Quote: Alevil
          Well, you yourself have achieved a lot, dare I ask? Or are you one of those too?


          such an answer will suit you: in 1982, he watched Helmut Kohl fight for the chancellor
    2. 0
      6 November 2022 16: 54
      Those who are ready to "howl at the moon" can safely get on a plane and return. They just left - millions, and only a few are returning. And yes, in the USA there are different areas with different levels of crime (as well as in Russia itself: take, for example, St. Petersburg and Berezniki :). In Washington DC, for example, any weapon is prohibited at all, including hunting ...
  35. 0
    3 November 2022 08: 52
    An entertaining read. But I'm afraid the competition commission will not accept it. Let's take a look at the text. Majorchik V.V. enters Baumanka .... where the Americans graze him and after graduating from high school he goes to some kind of production under the Ministry of Defense. Being in the status of a travel ban, he manages to go to some paid (to fuck you stupid!) Courses (a campaign of personal growth), where the villains taught his major to hate his homeland. He comes back and goes from worker to plant manager and bankrupts him and apparently makes good money. Then the author reflects on the intellect of the Latinos and unexpectedly reports that he has not completely sold out and ...... starts a business (the last money from the factory apparently was) for the sale and installation of plumbing (that is, there is a license for this!) And warns. What's the sad ending? The fact that another thief who actually hated his homeland himself will hate his business in the future (the family apparently broke up due to the fact that he transferred his failures to loved ones), but he blames anyone but himself. Or rather himself, too, but he is not supposedly the main evil! Frankly, they weren't convinced. I do not believe ! Next time write more tragically and the hero must be a scoundrel and a scoundrel, and then he will atone for his sins! Here it is tragedy, here is the fate of man!
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  37. -1
    5 November 2022 14: 50
    Were pensioners called to the ideological front?
    Naphthalene. This even in the USSR did not work already.
  38. 0
    6 November 2022 16: 48
    20 million Russians do not live in Russia. The vast majority of them love their homeland and do not drink cola. Those who left in the early 90s, for example, when with an aviation education in Russia it was only possible to sell Jupi bags in stalls, made a career in Boeing.
  39. 0
    9 December 2022 08: 44
    This material caught my eye for the second time .. I don’t remember now, but it seems to be on F / F somewhere in front of the covidla. It was written brightly - I especially remember the title

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned), Kirill Budanov (included to the Rosfinmonitoring list of terrorists and extremists)

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