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The EU is counting on Taiwan to increase the supply of microchips, but fears the reaction of Beijing

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The EU is counting on Taiwan to increase the supply of microchips, but fears the reaction of Beijing

Taiwanese government officials have been touting its leading position in the chip manufacturing sector while calling on the European Union to start negotiations on a trade deal, something Taipei has long sought. This is reported by the Japanese newspaper The Asahi Shimbun.


According to Taiwan President Tsai Ying-Wen, the restructuring of global supply chains and the transformation of the EU and Taiwan economies offer great potential for closer, mutually beneficial cooperation. Tsai Ying-Wen stated this at the EU investment forum in Taipei.

The EU is Taiwan's largest source of foreign investment, but the EU and its member states do not have formal diplomatic relations with the island due to objections from China, which considers Taiwan one of its provinces.

The EU is courting Taiwan, a major semiconductor maker, as one of the "like-minded" partners it would like to work with based on official agreements, the paper notes. However, no one in the EU wants to go into confrontation with China for this. Beijing's reactions to the increasingly active bilateral policy of Brussels and Taipei in the EU are feared.

With the EU aiming to have at least six million public electric vehicle (EV) charging stations by 2030, and electric vehicles require significantly more chips than conventional cars, the bet is on Taiwan.

Taiwan will become a reliable partner of the EU in the development of its market for electric vehicles

Taiwan Economic Minister Wang Meihua said.

According to the Japanese newspaper The Asahi Shimbun, a significant increase in trade volumes dictates the need to conclude a bilateral agreement, according to Taiwan.

However, the EU included Taiwan on its list of trading partners for a potential bilateral investment agreement back in 2015, but it has not negotiated with Taiwan on the issue since.
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  1. kor1vet1974
    kor1vet1974 26 October 2022 09: 05
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    Hmm, interestingly the girls are dancing. But how will it end, the landing of Chinese troops in Taiwan?
    1. ARIONkrsk
      ARIONkrsk 26 October 2022 09: 09
      +7
      Quote: kor1vet1974
      Hmm, interestingly the girls are dancing. But how will it end, the landing of Chinese troops in Taiwan?

      China has small testicles, at the moment it is impossible, only chatter for the whole world.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 26 October 2022 11: 14
        0
        Quote from ARIONkrsk
        Quote: kor1vet1974
        Hmm, interestingly the girls are dancing. But how will it end, the landing of Chinese troops in Taiwan?

        China has small testicles, at the moment it is impossible, only chatter for the whole world.

        This is not about testicles, but about the fact that China was preparing for the party congress and the election of the helmsman for the next five years. There was no need for him to harness himself to the war before the elections. Now Xi has received power for the upcoming five-year plan, will clean up the party ranks from those who advocate friendship with mattresses (one party functionary was taken out under white hands right from the congress) and will deal with the Taiwan problem. In the next five years, he will pass automatically, as the leader who united China and Taiwan under one roof.
    2. cash
      cash 26 October 2022 09: 28
      +1
      it is unlikely that in the event of a landing, Taiwan will leave its factories to the Chinese, they will blow everything up
      1. ZIF122
        ZIF122 26 October 2022 09: 34
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        They won't explode anything! Everything will happen very quickly and without big fights and losses!
      2. Ablet
        Ablet 26 October 2022 09: 38
        +1
        Those who will blow up will sign their own death warrant. Taiwan is still an island and it is unlikely that anyone will be able to escape from there. The same applies to all who will actively resist the PRC army.
        1. cash
          cash 26 October 2022 10: 17
          +1
          no one will give such scientific potential to the enemy, I am more than sure that, just in case, the factories there are mined
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 26 October 2022 11: 24
          +1
          Quote from Ablet
          Those who will blow up will sign their own death warrant.

          And they won't even be exchanged. Even if partners ask!
      3. SKVichyakow
        SKVichyakow 26 October 2022 09: 52
        +1
        Quote from kasy
        it is unlikely that in the event of a landing, Taiwan will leave its factories to the Chinese, they will blow everything up

        If the US stops interfering, in a year they themselves will join mainland China.
        1. for
          for 26 October 2022 10: 13
          -1
          Quote: SKVichyakow
          a year later, they themselves will join mainland China.

          There is not one reason for them to join China.
          If there was no chip production there, then they would probably need it.
          1. SKVichyakow
            SKVichyakow 26 October 2022 10: 24
            -1
            Quote: for
            There is not one reason for them to join China.

            Your conclusion suggests that you do not follow the news, or are not at all in the subject.
            1. for
              for 26 October 2022 10: 35
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              Quote: SKVichyakow
              that you do not follow the news, or not at all in the subject.

              And the news from the pro-Chinese, the reasons they want to share or completely give away income and power to China.
              Why isn't there a referendum?
              1. SKVichyakow
                SKVichyakow 26 October 2022 13: 51
                +1
                Quote: for
                And the news from the pro-Chinese, the reasons they want to share or completely give away income and power to China.
                Why isn't there a referendum?

                Everyone is just waiting for the elections in Taiwan. And everything will be decided by itself. This is understood in the United States, so they are escalating the situation for the start of hostilities between them.
                1. for
                  for 26 October 2022 14: 54
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                  Quote: SKVichyakow
                  And everything will be decided by itself.

                  I doubt that the Taiwanese will choose China.
                  to start hostilities between them.

                  And what is the US fighting for, if only China decides to return by force.
                  1. SKVichyakow
                    SKVichyakow 26 October 2022 16: 42
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                    Quote: for
                    Quote: SKVichyakow
                    And everything will be decided by itself.

                    I doubt that the Taiwanese will choose China.
                    to start hostilities between them.

                    And what is the US fighting for, if only China decides to return by force.

                    If the Kuomintang Party wins the elections in Taiwan, then they are in favor of joining China. The United States is not going to carry out military operations, as in Ukraine, only "possible help" in playing off. You are heavy Monomakh's hat.
    3. Bingo
      Bingo 26 October 2022 09: 51
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      Campaign, the production of chips in China. Until this happens, no one will twitch, but Taiwan produces almost all the chips in the world. 66% by number - even for China, the elimination of production in Taiwan is an automatic collapse of the industry. The USA and Europe are generally straight away - the war in Taiwan - in a day - Middle Ages
      1. Sergey_52
        Sergey_52 26 October 2022 10: 52
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        Well, nonsense ...
        Even in 2018, the Chinese released half of Taiwan ... Yes, in fact, even without them, in which case there is someone to pick up the banner ...
        https://habr.com/ru/post/486326/
    4. Roust
      Roust 26 October 2022 09: 52
      -1
      Ask the striped granny with a peloise about it.
  2. Doccor18
    Doccor18 26 October 2022 09: 05
    -1
    with whom he would like to work, based on formal agreements

    All the years and without this, they traded normally. "Official" can bring Beijing to real action. And then everyone will be sad ...
  3. Two
    Two 26 October 2022 09: 07
    +6
    hi And when are we? And where are we? We can only shrug our shoulders, but we do not have the production of our own modern chips.
    1. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 26 October 2022 09: 15
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      Two hi, and E. S. does not particularly produce them, therefore, flirts with Taipei
    2. cash
      cash 26 October 2022 09: 31
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      we are slowly catching up, we are far from the mass character of Taiwan, of course, but we are not standing still
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 26 October 2022 09: 43
        +2
        This chip became a museum exhibit even before it was born - there is no place to make it, alas.
        And so, even in the first iteration, he is quite comparable with classmates (and these are not the ones shown in the picture laughing ), a lag of no more than 30% is about nothing in the industry. Everything further for him would depend on the volume of production and, consequently, the final price. It might even be commercially successful.
        1. cash
          cash 26 October 2022 10: 01
          +1
          well, yes, it’s cheaper to keep production in Taiwan ... idiots, wouldn’t it be possible to open a factory in the same Zelenograd
          1. vadimtt
            vadimtt 26 October 2022 10: 21
            +3
            Not released in Zelenograd. Looks like a cursed place on AvtoVAZ laughing
            1. cash
              cash 26 October 2022 10: 34
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              yes, this is effective management rather damned, I don’t understand these fools, this is direct sabotage ... moreover, strategic
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 26 October 2022 11: 33
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            Quote from kasy
            there wouldn’t be a small factory in the same Zelenograd

            Alas, no one sells modern equipment for production. Haven't sold before. And now even more so.
      2. Alex_Bora
        Alex_Bora 26 October 2022 14: 13
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        And where was the core of the Baikal chip printed? There is information? According to my information, like other "ours", everything is in the same place, in Taiwan at TSMC.
    3. lisyara
      lisyara 26 October 2022 09: 32
      -1
      We can only shrug our hands, but we do not have the production of our own modern chips.

      what state are you?
      we, in Russia, make small schemes. and their own survived, even if they bought the old line from AMD
      Yes, the old one, the level of core2quad is probably - but the Pindock fighters fly on the first stumps, that's enough.

      what is most funny, everything is mainly done for export by our ... there are almost no domestic orders.
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 26 October 2022 09: 50
        +1
        No, it's a little worse. 65nm from AMD is unlikely to be launched already. Our level is extremely low-volume production at 90nm, almost everything goes only to the military. For mere mortals, only 180nm is available and the same in homeopathic (compared to TSMC) quantities (with corresponding price tags). And then, I can’t guarantee that all consumables (chemistry, silicon, photoresists, etc.) on these lines are domestic.
      2. cash
        cash 26 October 2022 10: 16
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        the raptors had old i486s, I don’t know if they were replaced
    4. Galleon
      Galleon 26 October 2022 09: 45
      +2
      Quote: Dos
      hi And when are we? And where are we? We can only shrug our shoulders, but we do not have the production of our own modern chips.

      And who needs our microchips for mass production? Do we make mobile phones? Produce tablets, motherboards, video cards? CNC machines? Damn, coffee machines? Production lines?
      Who should mass-produce microcircuits?
      1. Bingo
        Bingo 26 October 2022 09: 54
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        Quote: Galleon
        Who should mass-produce microcircuits?

        At least cash registers. In general, chips are everywhere now, and given the sanctions, this is the most ideal and rare chance for us to catch up and overtake. And then another drink
        1. Galleon
          Galleon 26 October 2022 10: 13
          +1
          Good reasoning, I agree. We have many chances, but all untouched.
          For the development of microelectronics, orders of tens and hundreds of thousands of pieces are needed, i.e. it is necessary to transfer to the domestic base those remnants that sit on an import base or are completely made abroad: security and fire systems, video surveillance, monitors, etc. And keep an eye on the price! And then new chandeliers with video cameras are offered to the police for 5 million - at least twenty times the price is raised! This is the first step. So that orders for these chips become the financial basis for the next stage. Then decide on household appliances - this is mass production, it is very important, and again monitor the price, especially the final one. This is the second stage and further this industry will become viable. And the ministry should deal with all this, but they don’t need to! They already have everything, life is good!
          Okay, enough platitudes.
  4. Murmur 55
    Murmur 55 26 October 2022 09: 08
    +3
    Of course, it is not beneficial for China that the markets for chips and other things remain with Taiwan, but what Beijing can do so far is too much at stake.
  5. I dare to_notice_
    I dare to_notice_ 26 October 2022 09: 17
    +1
    What electric vehicles?!
    It is time for the EU to think about the eternal, and not about green garbage.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 26 October 2022 09: 22
      +1
      Quote: I dare_notice_
      What electric vehicles?!

      In light of the rising cost of hydrocarbons and the powerful electric car lobby, why not. All you have to do is get the supply chains sorted out and you're good to go...
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 26 October 2022 09: 56
        0
        Electric cars run great on coal, but yes, it has the opposite relation to ecology lol
        Well, at least the dirt will be thrown out of the cities, or rather transferred to the provinces.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 26 October 2022 12: 04
          0
          Quote: vadimtt
          Electric cars are great on coal...

          good
  6. Essex62
    Essex62 26 October 2022 09: 37
    0
    China can arbitrarily consider Taiwan its province, the main thing is that the Taiwanese themselves do not think so. You can puff out your cheeks and threaten with a fist for a long time, but it is futile. The inhabitants of the island do not want to join the slave-owning empire, they live very well with their little world. The slave overseers will not receive anything from the CCP, the factories will be destroyed, and the Taiwanese will lay down their bones for their island. And p and n dosa, with allies they will be helped in this.
  7. Arkady007
    Arkady007 26 October 2022 09: 53
    -1
    I'm not chasing.
    The EU imposes sanctions on the supply of chips to us and court Taiwan themselves so as not to receive Chinese sanctions. At the same time, China received sanctions from the United States, which closely cooperates with the EU.
    What prevents China from imposing sanctions on chips for the EU in order to respond to US sanctions without directing these sanctions against them?
  8. Roust
    Roust 26 October 2022 09: 58
    0
    The Chinese are waiting for the corpse of the enemy to float down the river, but for now, it floats by, towards the states and geyropa, their electronic industry, the Chinese (as they stubbornly think) provinces. It is necessary to decide already: either, or !!!
  9. speed4fun
    speed4fun 26 October 2022 11: 19
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    We Europeans are fools, we created technology for electronic chips, and then we will produce them in Taiwan, we created all kinds of equipment and we take it to China for production, and then we complain that the Chinese are very bad. ...if it's not stupid, it seems. It's like imposing sanctions on Russian gas... another shot in the foot for Europeans... with European liberals in Brussels
    The EU is self-destructing.
  10. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 26 October 2022 14: 16
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    Quote from Bingo
    Campaign, the production of chips in China. Until this happens, no one will twitch, but Taiwan produces almost all the chips in the world. 66% by number - even for China, the elimination of production in Taiwan is an automatic collapse of the industry. The USA and Europe are generally straight away - the war in Taiwan - in a day - Middle Ages

    Nothing like this will happen. Everyone will manage without Taiwanese chips, and for other manufacturers there will be joy - they will capture the Taiwanese market.
  11. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 26 October 2022 14: 29
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    Quote from speed4fun
    We Europeans are fools, we created technology for electronic chips, and then we will produce them in Taiwan, we created all kinds of equipment and we take it to China for production, and then we complain that the Chinese are very bad. ...if it's not stupid, it seems.

    That fools 200 percent agree. Technology and equipment must be sold on time, or you will lose the market and others will do it themselves.
    Chips are produced in Taiwan because, in addition to technology, both workers and raw materials are needed, and there they are cheaper.
    At one time, gunpowder, rockets, a compass, and silk were brought from China to Europe and began to be produced there. It is impossible to keep the monopole on the new technology.