A source in Kyiv reports the refusal of the Turks to build a plant for the production of Bayraktar TB2 drones in Ukraine

Ukraine will remain not only without Turkish drums drones Bayraktar TB2, but without a factory for their production. According to sources in Kyiv, Baykar refused to build an enterprise for the production of UAVs on Ukrainian territory.

At the end of August of this year, the construction of a future plant for the production of Turkish drones was actively discussed in Kyiv, plans were made to saturate the Armed Forces of Ukraine drones and selling them abroad. Haluk Bayraktar, General Director of the company, announced strategic cooperation with Kiev and readiness for the construction of the plant. However, already in September, the talk about this faded away and this topic somehow left the pages of the Ukrainian press.

The first signs that not all is well with the construction of the plant, and with the supply of Bayraktar TB2 UAVs to the Armed Forces, appeared this month. At first, rumors spread that the Turks had decided to reduce the supply of shock drones to Ukraine, then information appeared that the rumors turned out to be not rumors at all, but, on the contrary, reliable data. According to information from the office of the President of Ukraine, Baykar is significantly reducing the supply of strike drones.

As explained, this is allegedly the demand of Erdogan, who agreed with Putin on the creation of a gas hub. One of the clauses of the agreement states the termination of the supply of UAVs to Kyiv. Also, the reason may be that Ukraine made a very bad advertisement for the Turkish drone, losing a large number in a short time.

Now there is evidence that there will be no plant in Ukraine. Information again from the office of the president. It is reported that Zelensky’s adviser Yermak tried to persuade the Turks to start production at the Motor Sich facilities in Zaporozhye or to locate a plant in Western Ukraine, but did not succeed. It remains only to wait for the official announcement on this topic.

Comments

[marchcat]

Erdogan chose between the hub and Bayraktar ... while the hub is in the lead

[Silver99]

Erdogan is not insane, to invest in a ruined Ukraine ???? Yes, you sho, there are no bad people there. In addition, whoever allows you to watch how this plant will be built, on the second day of digging the foundation pit, a "moped" will arrive.

[Shurik70]

But in general, Turkey is ready to sell drones to Kyiv, but refuses to Russia.
About "reduced deliveries" - they gave less steel.
So the Turks are on their own. You should not even consider them "trading partners". Just trade clients.

[dmi.pris1]

Perhaps. But the Sultan is still that cunning. They won’t build it in Ukraine, they will build it in Poland or the Baltic states

[Lukachevsky]

Quote: dmi.pris

Not built in Ukraine, built in Poland or the Baltic States

Ugh, of course! With such gas prices in Europe. Does it make sense for the Turks to build their factories in Europe if they have their own cheap gas at home?

[Chronos]

Quote: dmi.pris

Perhaps. But the Sultan is still that cunning. They won’t build it in Ukraine, they will build it in Poland or the Baltic states

Why, when there are factories in Turkey?

[Uncle lee]

Ukraine will be left not only without Turkish Bayraktar TB2 attack drones, but also without a plant for their production

The horns of a boisterous cow have been filed!

[Alex777]

Successfully matched. Just as Boguslavsky was arrested, the Turks changed their minds. Although the idea of ​​the plant has been dead since February.

[credo]

But someone said with us that the benefits of the liquidation of military-industrial complex enterprises on the territory of the former. The Ukrainian SSR is not. They say they will come in handy.
And now, after two weeks of "parcels" from Russia, the result immediately became clear not only to the Kyiv "strategists" but also to their overseas "partners".
It turns out that there was a meaning, only we swayed for a long time.

[olezenka1]

Yes, and it’s shy for them to build a plant at gunpoint of Geraniums and Calibers. It’s quite a shame when the factory was “built, built and, finally, built”, and in the morning it is already gone ...

[FoBoss_VM]

Still ... Through the plant, he can only control the Khokhlostan, and through the hub he can rule Europe like a trio of stallions. The choice is obvious

[Buyan]

And who needs these falling Turkish crafts now? The skakuas once again messed themselves up, the bloomers are big - there will still be enough for more than one serving of "bricks"

[Cheshire]

Quote from Buyan

And who needs these falling Turkish crafts now?

I think that Russia would not refuse to establish production on our territory with full localization. It is quite possible to use them, and in Ukraine too, you just need to think over the application strategy. Deep drone raids are a good tool...

[faiver]

I think that Russia would not refuse to have production on our territory with full localization

- let's start small, the Turks themselves are not very good with localization ....

[Cheshire]

Quote: faiver

I think that Russia would not refuse to have production on our territory with full localization

- let's start small, the Turks themselves are not very good with localization ....

Yes, this is indeed a problem for the Turks. If we propose to organize the production of the engine, which we are quite capable of, then the rest is real.

[faiver]

what we can do

hmm, hmm, I'm a bit unsure about this....

[Cheshire]

In the 90s, they mastered the production of automatic gearboxes for Mercedes in Kazan at KMPO. Automatic transmission is technically more complicated than that engine. All on a shoulder, the task would be put.
By the way, boxes are still being produced, and there the task was set at the level of the plant director. How to sing Depeche mode - nothing impossible.

[faiver]

In the 90s, they mastered the production of automatic gearboxes for Mercedes in Kazan at KMPO.

- I’ll even tell you why they mastered it - there are still personnel from the USSR, but now they are gone. The example of the IL-112 is very indicative. For more than 30 years we have been creating a replacement for the An-2, and it’s not a fact that the LMS-901 will fire, the VK-800 is not yet ... Where is the mass production of the Il-76? Where is the in-line production of the Be-200, which has no analogues in the world? The Chinese got tired of waiting for the seaplane deliveries, spat and blinded their own. And so everywhere you look...

[Cheshire]

Quote: faiver

- I’ll even tell you why they mastered it - there are still personnel from the USSR, but now they are gone.

And the Fritz provided documentation and alloy compositions ... .
I always set goals and go to them. On the scale of the engine for a bayraktar, setting a goal to copy and achieve is a completely feasible task.

[faiver]

On the scale of the engine for a bayraktar, setting a goal to copy and achieve is a completely feasible task.

- engine for an-2? 30 years?
we recall the presidential limousine - like domestic, some show-offs ...

[stelltok]

areas with full localization, production was established.

And the Orion UAV? Is not it so?

[dmi.pris1]

Falling "crafts"? These blood crafts spoiled us a lot.

[Chronos]

Quote: dmi.pris

Falling "crafts"? These blood crafts spoiled us a lot.

Not as much as stated. The main purpose of dill bayraktars is a spotter. That is, UAVs are used at 50% of their capabilities. Although such a pepelats would not hurt us.

[Bingo]

The icon of Zhabelina Bayraktarovna needs to be urgently painted over - such will be the harsh response of impossible puppies to another knife in the dog!

[Asad]

I just read the news, Turkey insists! As the price of gas dropped, the Sultan sensed that he could already twist his arms. And what, China can, but it’s like without discounts.

[rocket757]

A source in Kyiv reports the refusal of the Turks to build a plant for the production of Bayraktar TB2 drones in Ukraine

So what ... the cunning Turk thinks ahead, about his investments.
Normal, standard, logical.

[evgen1221]

Yes, no one seriously thought of building something there, they drank and dispersed

[Novik225]

Yes, it was immediately clear that the news about the construction of the plant was a duck. So, a PR move to demonstrate "the whole world is with us."

[Lukachevsky]

The Turks are not crazy to spend money on building a factory in Ukraine, and no one will spend money on something like that, it's a waste of money. It is easier and more profitable for Turks to sell UAVs to Ukrainians, building them in Turkey.

[APASUS]

The Turks could make it easier. They could build a plant and just point mopeds at it. Get money and fulfill the contract. It’s a completely different matter if Ukraine expects a plant and UAVs from the Turks for free

[Lukachevsky]

Quote: APASUS

It’s a completely different matter if Ukraine expects a factory and a UAV from the Turks for free

Of course that's the only way! After all, the whole world owes Ukrainians!

[Uprun]

Sultan on Peacemaker in company with I. Mask ...... There will be such a flower garden ......, some billionaires .... Forbes nervously smokes aside .....

[Silver99]

Quote: dmi.pris

Perhaps. But the Sultan is still that cunning. They won’t build it in Ukraine, they will build it in Poland or the Baltic states

What's the point of building a plant in Europe? Now the money is coming, jobs have been created in Turkey and there seems to be no quarrel with Russia, Edik will sit on two chairs.

[lubesky]

They say that instead of a drone factory, the Turks offered to supply a plant with extruders for the production of PVC profiles for plastic windows ... and a line for the production of double-glazed windows

[Andrey Moskvin]

For Donbass with the Lugansk region or what?

[sifgame]

Erdogan does not want to watch a video about the Bayraktarov plant destroyed by Iranian Geraniums in Ukraine

[rotmistr60]

Whether VVP talked to Erdogan about "Bayraktars" or not is unknown, but the Ukrainian side managed to put its hand in the deterioration of relations

Ukraine gave the Turkish drone a very bad publicity, losing a large number in a short time.

But at the same time, the UAVs themselves began to criticize, which the manufacturer did not quite like.

[Azerbaijani_Game]

I think right.
Firstly, before the war, these proposals were quite real, but during the war, all these are "plays on words."
We'll build it, then we won't, then we'll build it again. No one was going to build anything there.
Secondly, what Russia is offering us to the Turks now (projects, etc.) far outweighs all this.
Thirdly, as an Azerbaijani, I am against the fact that the full cycle of construction, programming, training, maintenance in terms of electronics, engines, and other points fell completely into the hands of countries that are not yet clear.
Be it even TB-2, not to mention more powerful UAVs.
Want to buy? - please contact, and so buy by the piece, why mass production?
I am generally silent about the production of ammunition, this is a very complex and delicate topic.

Maybe in the future, when everything is over, there may be a screwdriver assembly with ready-made software, and ready-made ammo. That is, the release of exactly as many UAV units as will be discussed each time under the license.

[Two]

From a change in the places of the terms, the amount only increases! Transferring the production of these "birds" to any neighboring country will only replenish the bottomless pockets of his son-in-law.

[ZIF122]

Erdogan of course chose the gas hub, it's much more profitable! But he will also build a plant for the production of bayraktars, for example, not in Ukraine, but in Romania! And it will boil here and there!

[ASM]

Everything is tricky here. The Turks would have built anything on the outskirts, but for real money, taking into account the allowance for martial law. Their lyre is very unstable. So the greenback wants a loan that needs to be serviced and repaid. What and how? That's the whole question - money in the morning, chairs in the evening. Well, the fact that bayraktars fell down on the outskirts, or the fact that this plant even before it was put into production. operation will be planted with geraniums - this is not a problem for the Turks. There will be payment - we will build as many more as you want.