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Washington Post: Armed Forces of Ukraine are faced with a shortage of air defense missiles

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Washington Post: Armed Forces of Ukraine are faced with a shortage of air defense missiles

The Ukrainian military has recently experienced a shortage of missiles for air defense systems. This was reported by the American edition of the Washington Post with reference to the head of the training of the Ukrainian air defense forces Denis Smazhny.


According to the military, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are running out of stocks of air defense missiles. In addition, the Ukrainian army is armed with Soviet air defense systems, which are not able to effectively cope with massive missile attacks.

In this regard, Smazhny called on "Western partners" to supply the Ukrainian Armed Forces with modern air defense systems, like the American NASAMS or the German IRIS-T, as soon as possible. In his opinion, this will quickly close the gaps in the Ukrainian air defense.

It is worth noting that Alexei Arestovich, adviser to Zelensky's office, also pointed out problems with the depletion of the stock of missiles. According to the politician, too much ammunition is spent on massive raids by kamikaze drones. At the same time, he stressed that a missile for an air defense system is much more expensive than "Iranian drones that are used by the Russian Armed Forces."

Speaking of the latter, Iran categorically denies the fact of deliveries of the Shahed-136 UAV to Russia. At the same time, our Ministry of Defense announces the use of Geran-2 drones.

Let us add that recently the Kyiv authorities applied with a request for the supply of air defense / missile defense systems to Israel, but were refused. Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz stressed that his country continues to support Ukraine by providing humanitarian assistance. However, weapons, including missile defense systems, will not be transferred to Kyiv.
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  1. isv000
    isv000 21 October 2022 16: 01
    +7
    Armed Forces of Ukraine faced with a shortage of air defense missiles

    Should have traded less!
    1. Viktor29
      Viktor29 21 October 2022 16: 23
      +2
      Yes, no, until 2014 they were proud of the fact that they refused everyone who asked them for anything from the S-300, including Georgia, in the 2000s there were many not working, and they never put them up for sale.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 21 October 2022 16: 45
        +4
        Armed Forces of Ukraine faced with a shortage of air defense missiles

        We can quickly help Ukraine with some missiles, but only self-delivery. winked
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 21 October 2022 17: 12
      0
      Shoot fireworks, it will be much cheaper! lol As for efficiency, these are trifles compared to the price wassat
  2. Maxim G
    Maxim G 21 October 2022 16: 05
    -1
    What is the final prognosis?
    Will layered air defense be created over important facilities in Ukraine?
    1. neworange88
      neworange88 21 October 2022 16: 11
      +3
      Quote: Maxim G
      What is the final prognosis?
      Will layered air defense be created over important facilities in Ukraine?


      For Ukraine, a pipe dream was the opportunity to restore its air defense to the level of February 24, 2022.
      “You should know that in October we are running out of old stocks of Soviet Buk and S-300 missiles. It will be a collapse, a catastrophe. That is why back in June I initiated an order by the Ukrainian side of the American obsolete Hawk air defense system. It was withdrawn from service in 2005. The US allies have a huge number of them in the world: about a thousand launchers and 40 thousand missiles. Unfortunately, our relations are heavily bureaucratized. If in March everything was decided by phone calls, now it's 10 visas from the Ukrainian side, 15 from the American side........ We urgently need to intensify the processing of applications for these "Hawks". This will give us the opportunity to close the sky. If we get 25 "hawks" and a thousand missiles to them, we will shoot down 90% of everything. Tomorrow I will swear with Zaluzhny so that he once again asks Millie to put this in priority number 1. Because the deployment of these complexes will take 2-3 months. They are in poor technical condition and have been mothballed for 20 years. If we get this air defense, if America continues to implement the program on ammunition and howitzers ... But "hawks" and electronic warfare. We must learn to repress. How they gave us “harm” missiles, it was my dream in 2014, and our “bayraktars” began to hit their air defense systems,” Pashinsky said.

      https://m.politnavigator.net/pashinskijj-ehta-vojjna-tarantino-otdykhaet-gaubicy-dryan.html
      1. Askold65
        Askold65 21 October 2022 17: 42
        -3
        You can mock Ukrainian air defense as much as you like, but they still adapt. Rockets will be brought to them. Here is a short story on this topic at 2:25:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx7X5SkJLi4
        1. nikon7717
          nikon7717 21 October 2022 22: 08
          0
          There is always a question of delivery. If you block the Beskydy tunnel, it will immediately cut off most of the railway traffic, which carry military cargo with civilian trains
          1. Negro
            Negro 22 October 2022 00: 17
            0
            Where did this tunnel come from in the patriots' mania? It makes absolutely no difference to arms shipments, which almost all go through Poland, not Slovakia.
      2. Negro
        Negro 22 October 2022 00: 18
        0
        Quote from: neworange88
        our “bayraktars” started hitting their air defense systems,” Pashinsky said.

        Another Trotsky. Bayraktar cannot lift Harm, insufficient payload.
    2. ZuekRek
      ZuekRek 21 October 2022 16: 14
      0
      IMHO, systems will be supplied where NATO specialists in Poland (or somewhere nearby) will be responsible for the radar, guidance, and the Ukrainian military will need to press a button at the right time and transport it to a place with given coordinates
      1. Jafar
        Jafar 21 October 2022 16: 43
        +8
        Will radars from Poland issue target designations for low-altitude targets? Are they flat earthers?
        1. ZuekRek
          ZuekRek 21 October 2022 21: 31
          0
          No, everything will be remote in the sense that the operators will not be at the radar (the radar is on the territory of Ukraine, the operators are not, or in the far west). Ukrainians will be responsible for moving and "on / off"
    3. Bomb
      Bomb 21 October 2022 16: 29
      -1
      Layered may or may not be. But NATA will supply everything decommissioned, or are you in doubt? Dragging the issue of closing the western border is against us.
      1. KCA
        KCA 21 October 2022 17: 53
        +2
        To close the hemisphere over Kyiv with air defense / missile defense forces, at least 72 launchers with ammunition of at least 4 missiles are needed, and also air defense of the last frontier, 6 points, at least 3 vehicles each, but here's how they will cope with the X-101, I wonder stealth KR with a minimum flight altitude, envelope of the terrain, buzzes and bangs, to the delight of Internet blochers. I just counted 72 in a circle, experts will tell you exactly how much you need, and you need to install launchers everywhere, "Caliber" from the Caspian Sea can very well fly for fun and enter from Poland
        1. Negro
          Negro 22 October 2022 00: 23
          -1
          Quote: KCA
          72 I just counted around the circumference, experts will tell you exactly how much you need, and you need to put PU everywhere,

          One battery of the medium-range complex closes any city. Well, except for a narrow and very long one, like Krivoy Rog. The only problem is to create a radio field without shadows.
          Quote: KCA
          more air defense of the last frontier, pieces of 6 points, at least 3 cars on each

          Additional protection is required only for surveillance radar, one or more.
          1. KCA
            KCA 22 October 2022 03: 56
            0
            One battery, how much, 6 launchers for 4 missiles? Two per target, for a total of 12 targets, and then? While reloading for half an hour at the launch sites of the PU and Geranium or Lancet will fly in, or even Iskander will bang, the radar, if it works, will catch X-20 right within 31 minutes, this is not HARM, it will not work to shoot down, there is simply nothing, maybe Patriot of the latest modifications or THAAD will work, but who will give them on / on?
            1. Negro
              Negro 22 October 2022 13: 08
              0
              Quote: KCA
              One battery, how much, 6 launchers for 4 missiles?

              Nasams battery is 12 launchers, 72 missiles (in standard configuration). Iris has so far delivered one platoon, 3 launchers, 24 missiles.
              Quote: KCA
              While reloading for half an hour at the launch site of the launcher, Geranium or Lancet will fly in, or even Iskander will bang,

              )))
              The Russian Aerospace Forces are not capable of working on moving targets. Coordinates only.
              Quote: KCA
              the radar, if it works, will catch the X-20 right within 31 minutes

              20 minutes is unscientific fiction, but yes, when working 24/7 on the radar, it can fly sooner or later - the same Kyiv is close to the border and can be fired from the airspace of the Republic of Belarus.
              However, partners are also aware of this problem.
              Quote: KCA
              X-31, this is not HARM, it will not work to shoot down, there is simply nothing, maybe the Patriot of the latest modifications or THAAD will work, but who will give them on / on?

              X-31 is a common aerodynamic target, no complexes like Pak3 or higher are required for it. Serious systems are required for missile defense from ballistic missiles, Iskander or Iranian.
              1. KCA
                KCA 22 October 2022 18: 34
                0
                X-31 is 3MAX and more, not an aerodynamic target at all, but a cruise missile with a variable trajectory throughout the flight, why do they look so bad? Yes, just pure titanium, there is no point in painting them, any paint will burn out in the first seconds of flight
                1. Negro
                  Negro 22 October 2022 18: 46
                  0
                  Quote: KCA
                  X-31 is 3MAX and more

                  She has 3M during engine development, the first seconds. Then it goes by inertia, naturally slowing down. Whether the same Iris will catch her - you have to try, who will tell in advance.
                  1. KCA
                    KCA 23 October 2022 02: 54
                    0
                    Kh-31P, Kh-31PD, Kh-31A and other modifications are cruise missiles, not ballistic missiles and the engine runs from the moment of launch until the moment it hits the target, the average flight speed is 750m/s, the maximum is 1000m/s
                    1. Negro
                      Negro 23 October 2022 06: 20
                      0
                      In this case, I really blundered - the X-31 has a ramjet, not a solid propellant rocket engine. The ramjet works for a long time.

                      Shtosh, the more interesting.
        2. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 22 October 2022 05: 50
          0
          To close the hemisphere over Kyiv with air defense / missile defense forces, it is necessary
          .... the Kyiv junta is drug addicts who are completely in debt to the drug dealer, so the dealer gives a limited dose .. and all sorts of conclusions about the appropriateness of doses lose their meaning .. the junta what to give, what to throw out the same way, because any garbage will be driven for a long time and dosed
    4. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 25 October 2022 21: 23
      0
      tell me the layered air defense system at least over one point near the mattresses. For your information, "patriot + stinger" bundles are not layered air defense
  3. Bingo
    Bingo 21 October 2022 16: 20
    +6
    The good news for the people of Kiev is that there will be fewer civilian targets. And then Geraniums are hitting targets, but dill air defense - as always, anywhere
  4. ZIF122
    ZIF122 21 October 2022 16: 30
    +2
    The West, led by the United States, will not supply Ukraine with weapons forever! As soon as they realize that it is impossible to destroy Russia with its help, then the deliveries will stop, Ukraine will be divided into pieces and they will approach Russia from the other side, for example, from Central Asia!
    1. dementor873
      dementor873 22 October 2022 00: 28
      0
      It took 10 years in Afghanistan, so why not celebrate New Year until 2032?
  5. Mwg
    Mwg 21 October 2022 16: 33
    +1
    "The Armed Forces of Ukraine are faced with a shortage of air defense missiles" - sho, the communist stocks ran out, but they never made their own? Decommunization, it’s like that, everything done by good people among idiots (the site’s robot changes a suitable word to an inappropriate one, although the word “idiot” offends the feelings of idiots) quickly ends. Then they will throw poop and stones and run with sticks. This, of course, if "foreign countries will help us" suddenly turns off.
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 21 October 2022 17: 14
      +2
      They should still have plenty of grandmothers with cans of tomatoes and grandfathers with Berdans there, so let them use them. Why not layered air defense? laughing
      1. Mwg
        Mwg 21 October 2022 17: 30
        0
        It’s you who didn’t come across grandmothers with banks, probably. I was once attacked in Melitopol by a grandmother with a shopping bag of canned food. Scary )))))))
        And grandfathers with Berdans are the same old Soviet training. Those behind enemy lines can be thrown. Now they don't do that. Old school.
  6. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 21 October 2022 16: 37
    +1
    here it is necessary to separate misinformation from the truth .... Ukroprezik, for example, said that 30% of the energy structure of Ukraine was destroyed, and our power engineers say that no more than 10%
    1. Suslik_2
      Suslik_2 21 October 2022 16: 44
      -2
      Well, that's right, 20% is the future re-export of the supplied gas turbines, and it will turn out that 10% were destroyed, 10% delivered - reported, the rest is a bonus of Zelensky and Co., he does not work for free ...
  7. Suslik_2
    Suslik_2 21 October 2022 16: 40
    -3
    With a lack of modesty, they faced an excess of greed from freebies. Interestingly, they think that after they collect a sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbmilitary junk, and the "war" is over, all the maintenance and updating will not be at their beggarly expense?
  8. ZoV
    ZoV 21 October 2022 16: 41
    -1
    Our "Geraniums" thinned out their air defense well .. Look what a panic they caused, even the United States Security Council at the UN decided to gather out of fear
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 October 2022 16: 49
    +5
    Lesya, you bastard, I know that they report to you about the comments on VO. I give advice, it bleeds at the very heart. Introduce liability for your air defense workers. launch a rocket? What was bombed, this is a gold mine. You can not restore it, only in words. And you can start over again. And the missiles are intact, and we are happy, and you are a wolf with pockets full of money. bully
    1. Ural_engineer
      Ural_engineer 21 October 2022 17: 12
      +1
      And you can start over again. And the rockets are intact, and we are happy, and you are a wolf with pockets full of money. bully

      the most effective comment since my registration here (although the period is very short) good
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 21 October 2022 17: 52
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      I give advice, it bleeds at the very heart. Introduce liability for your air defense workers. I missed it with a rocket, so let them pay for an empty launch, up to the third knee, next time they will think: Is it worth launching a rocket?

      How does it just pay? No, let him buy a new rocket on his own and bring it. And so in all types and types of troops.
      Under this case, you can even open a new line of credit. smile
      An avalanche has descended on us enemies:
      Rows of bayonets, leaden barrage of fire!
      We defended our rabbi -
      He smartly sold us cartridges.
      1. Negro
        Negro 22 October 2022 00: 27
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        And so in all types and types of troops.

        You're joking here, but I remember seeing a fecal fountain on this very occasion. It seems that Rostislav had, even before his roof was torn off by recent events.

        Naturally, it was about the RF Ministry of Defense.
  10. Boniface
    Boniface 21 October 2022 17: 21
    0
    So like? Grandfather Taras knows how to shoot down planes with a can of cucumbers!
    Let the Pig Reich organize "cucumber" air defense wassat
  11. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 21 October 2022 19: 45
    0
    Why the hell are air defense missiles coming out to the Spartans ?! The main loyalty to the covenants of the ancient ukrov! There are also spears and slings!

  12. ASM
    ASM 21 October 2022 21: 35
    0
    Is it a deficit? Maybe it's just that the missiles, which are in good condition, have already been sold? And the missiles that have remained and have not been serviced for many years are simply not ready for combat use? I don’t know, but I judge only by numerous videos where air defense missiles fly anywhere except at the target.
  13. Fizik13
    Fizik13 21 October 2022 22: 18
    0
    Everything has dried up in Russia, everything has dried up, and the Westerners themselves CANNOT deliver a couple of hundred lousy rockets to Ukraine!
    1. Negro
      Negro 22 October 2022 00: 30
      +1
      Quote from Fizik13
      Westerners themselves CANNOT deliver a couple of hundred lousy rockets to Ukraine!

      Talk that Ukraine needs Western-type air defense simply due to the depletion of ammunition and the resource of Soviet air defense began almost immediately. Now, somehow, all of a sudden, everything turned out and things moved off the ground.