The enemy is preparing to use YRM mines for a possible descent down the Dnieper in order to undermine the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station

It became known that the armed forces of Ukraine carried out the delivery of anchor river mines to the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe settlement of Gavrilovka, on the right bank of the Dnieper. Gavrilivka is under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, located northeast of the village of Dudchany.

The reports say that the enemy intends to use Soviet-style NRM mines to descend down the Dnieper in order to try to blow up the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric station in order to further destroy (as a result of the impact of a water spill) the induced crossings.

Thus, the Ukrainian troops can try to realize what they were planning when blowing up the Crimean bridge - to isolate the group of Russian troops near Kherson, to disrupt all the transport and logistics routes built - in the north. Accordingly, this will also lead to a large-scale humanitarian crisis that local residents will face - there will be no opportunities for the delivery of food, medicines, and, in fact, for any transport connection with other territories of Russia.

From Gavrilovka to Novaya Kakhovka, where the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station is located, along the Dnieper, no more than 75 km. Therefore, if Ukrainian militants launch NRM mines into the Dnieper in the near future, then by the night of October 20 they may well reach the goal set by the terrorists of the Kyiv regime.

Recall that against this background, the local population is being evacuated from the right bank of the Kherson region. Lined up lines of defense by Russian troops.

Mines YRM developed in the USSR. Each such mine carries a charge of 3 kg of TNT. Several of these mines are capable of causing significant damage to the hydraulic structures of the Kakhovskaya HPP.

In the meantime, it became known that a water discharge was organized to prevent the flooding of Kherson.

Comments

[Two]

How are we doing with DRG? We have no one to send? Since there is no one to send, we need to sow this Gavrilovka with Geranium seedlings.

[Bulrumeb]

Namely, they are talking about the delivery of mines. Why are they clear. But something is being done to prevent it is unclear. The descent of water is a long song, in addition, if the mines are dealt with as it is written in the article, then the descent of the reservoir that has begun will only help the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[Astra55]

Here we need Comrade Zhukov and his 1st Ukrainian Front.

[RED_ICE]

The less you know the better you sleep. The enemy also reads the media.

[Arkady007]

And what it is impossible to deliver ordinary networks?

[bayard]

Can . Between barges at anchor. But will they have time - they could have already lowered the mines into the water, or they will lower them today or tomorrow.

[SKVichyakow]

So this water discharge should have been organized a long time ago, in order to exclude a man-made natural disaster.

[RoTTor]

The discharge of water throughout the Dnieper cascade has been going on for a week, so a lot of water has been accumulated

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: RoTTor

The discharge of water throughout the Dnieper cascade has been going on for a week, so a lot of water has been accumulated.

So there is a discharge or accumulation of water?

[Galleon]

It is hardly possible to set up booms - where did they come from in Kherson? It remains to patrol the UAV water area and shoot mines from the shore. Preferably 2-3 such milestones.
Now, if it was possible to pull up patrol boats from the Black Sea Fleet ...

[Bingo]

Quote: Galleon

It is hardly possible to set boom barriers

Do you think the network will not work? And if not from gauze? And to deliver from Sevastopol - is that very far away?

[Galleon]

Anchor river mine. The mine itself has positive buoyancy - it does not need a net. And the net fence is a 20-30mm steel wire mesh. Gauze is not used at sea, mister connoisseur. The network is not needed, the mines will float on the surface, they will be freed from anchors and let go with the flow. Probably they will connect, because. 3 kg of "sea mixture" - and in mines this explosive with a TNT equivalent of 1,62 is still not enough to break the dam.
Drag booms from Sevastopol? I don't know, no one has done this before. Here isv000 writes that they should be in Kherson, this is about 85-90 km. A lot of different related technical problems arise.

[Bingo]

Quote: Galleon

And the net fence is a 20-30mm steel wire mesh.

The boom is designed for torpedoes, and the mine is caught with a fishing net stretched OVER the surface and a little deeper - like two fingers on the asphalt,

Quote: Galleon

mister connoisseur

... and you need to understand the joke of humor about gauze. Smile - it annoys everyone (I don’t remember where the quote came from)
You can not pull it, pull it up to the surface on the floats - it will still catch it. And these networks - at least chew on them in Kherson stores

[Galleon]

Listen, as for the fishing nets, it’s quite a reasonable idea - the mine is only 13 kg, there is no engine, the current in the reservoir is minimal - this should work.

[Arisaka]

Quote from Bingo

Smile - it annoys everyone (I don’t remember where the quote came from)

Vasily Strelnikov, MTV 2000s.

[isv000]

Quote: tihonmarine

It is hardly possible to set up booms - where did they come from in Kherson?

So Kherson is a major seaport, if anything ...

[Galleon]

Yes, it is possible that there is. If you haven’t drunk during the years of independence

[tralflot1832]

3 kg × 333 pieces = 999 kg of explosives. They will blow up one at a time or immediately en masse. With underwater drones it’s more interesting or saboteurs with underwater tugs. The sailors who visited Luanda until the end of the 80s remember these bzdyny from grenades under the side. I don’t know if the saboteurs surfaced at the expense.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

I don’t know if the saboteurs surfaced at the expense.

They surfaced, but then they stopped, they realized that the games were over. There was also a landing of underwater saboteurs at Cape Elijah, but the Cubans destroyed it.

[tralflot1832]

The old people told us they exchanged alcohol for grenades from ours and Cubans, so they went fishing from the ship. Maybe stories?

[Galleon]

With PDS grenades, reporting is strict, and there is still a danger that the special officer listens to these bzdyni according to the schedule of preventive grenade throwing. Therefore, well, fuck him - he threw it and is clean in front of everyone. We had it. But if there are Cossack freemen on the ship, options are possible, of course.

[ada]

Quote: tralflot1832

... They will blow up one at a time or immediately en masse. ...

I believe that they will be combined with something to increase power. Perhaps they came up with a supporting structure with neutral buoyancy for an alloy in a submerged state.

[tralflot1832]

And they set the steering wheels to go in the fairway. From Ali Express. The English underwater drone is more reliable, you can sink more than one at the dam.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

The English underwater drone is more reliable, you can sink more than one at the dam.

Most likely it will be the most suitable option.

[Bingo]

Quote: tralflot1832

sea ​​does not float

Because you need to hit the school exactly plus / minus half a lap, and in a pond or a river where you don’t spit - there are fish everywhere, they don’t go astray. And so - the fish is the same everywhere, and from the water hammer it also pops up.

[tralflot1832]

In marine fish, the swim bladder is smaller in volume to the body. Yes, and river fish in the Murmansk region have never been jammed, it has the same problems with the bladder. Unless you jerk so that it immediately flies ashore, but with this option a problem may arise , for the place of the fish from the bottom, a boulder can fly.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: tralflot1832

Is it possible to take off so that it immediately flies ashore, but with this option a problem may arise, a boulder may fly from the bottom for the place of the fish.

There is another problem with such "fishing" - fish stew will fly ashore instead of fish.

[Bingo]

Quote: tralflot1832

In marine fish, the swim bladder is smaller in volume to the body.

Because the water is salty. It floats what sinks in the river. So it pops up. Have you ever heard that when the sea freezes, the beaches are littered with dead fish? Well, did she drown in the sea, or did she hang on top until she was thrown onto the beach?

[tralflot1832]

Don’t tell me who went to the sea, all the fish that we didn’t have time to process was washed into the sea and even in the Norwegian zone, where air control is the most severe. Our fisherman was called "sport fishing steamer" caught a fresh one, released a dead one and never got caught. And the overboard was washed off 30 tons sometimes at a time. And this is almost a wagon.

[Bingo]

Quote: tralflot1832

Don't tell me who went to sea

So I understood by nickname) Well, don’t tell me, an ecologist, I’m not Greta Tuborg, but we always had practices in nature, and I’ve seen enough of the freeze too

[tralflot1832]

There can be a freeze in fresh water. The most smelly place in the ocean is the raid of the port of Callao Peru, if El Nino does not blow, the stench is terrible for tens of kilometers, although the raid is open. It seems that you are standing in the sewer. not measured. There are no freezes in the sea. The oxygen balance in the sea is a very interesting thing.

[Bingo]

Quote: tralflot1832

There are no freezes in the sea.

Still as it is, you just notice FIG. Yes, and the fish does not hang out in the ocean for a long time, the fish is not a pond - a couple of days the fish has rotted, it will be tritely torn apart by waves, you can’t just see the freezes, what percentage of the ocean’s surface does humanity SEE? Yes, none. That's when, near the shore - yes - everything quickly threw it onto the beach and it starts - oh-vey, what a shame, we will all die.
And so, with negative buoyancy, as far as I remember - only sharks.
In general, no one has seen the Great Garbage Patch for at least 2 decades, but it is an area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthree France, what kind of kill of a school or two of small herrings?

[tralflot1832]

You saw a sea bass from a depth. When it is lifted from three hundred and five hundred meters, it inflates it from the air dissolved in it. The trawl jumps out of the water like a submarine, although it weighs tens of tons with trawl boards. But as soon as the fish lie down on the deck, she is sinking again, the air has come out of her. Whales also drown for some reason when they die. Norwegian and Japanese whalers pump them with air when they are pulled to the base for processing. I’m not sure with the Norgs, maybe the greens defeated them.

[Bingo]

But with deep-sea ones, I blunted ... But one dog, to jam if at a depth, will also emerge, then drown. But it will be unprofitable there because of the pressure. I heze, the same lemon will blow 350 meters down? There 10 meters down - plus 1 atmosphere, 35 atmospheres. Even if it explodes, the wave will not go far, it will not silence anyone, therefore they are trawling, not jamming

[hangar200]

all solutions to the idiocy of a strange operation in the Kremlin. While in the Kremlin.

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: angara200

all solutions to the idiocy of a strange operation in the Kremlin. While in the Kremlin.

Haven't the lights been turned off for you yet, boy?
Hang on for a couple more days...
And then we will remember with a quiet and affectionate word. But not for long...

[Mavrikiy]

The enemy is preparing to use YRM mines for a possible descent down the Dnieper in order to undermine the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station

During the time that we control the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station, we could have long ago begun a controlled discharge of water from the reservoir, even by 1 m, would have given a lot to reduce human losses, in case of sabotage .. Found !!!!

October 19, 2022 Discharge of water from the reservoir began at the Kakhovskaya HPP. This is due to fears of undermining the dam, Kherson itself will not fall under flooding, since it mostly stands on a high bank, said Acting Governor Volodymyr Saldo. According to him, there is a risk of flooding for the private sector

[CombatSnail]

It's time to destroy the dam in Kyiv and the rest of the thermal power plants

[dmi.pris1]

Yes, about the Vyshgorod dam - a "strong" decision. Why not Dneproges? So that everything would be under water. In the same Kherson, residents and our military

[alexey_444]

And some are surprised that there are no fascists in Ukraine, only the fascists and their Anglo-Saxon curators acted like that. The bad thing is that some of our youth are still against their own, they don’t see the genocide of the civilian population at close range, the main thing is God sees that retribution will come, Ukrainians are already paying, they are dying out.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: alexey_444

The bad thing is that some of our youth are still against their own, they don’t see genocide point-blank

For young people, the smartphone is now a teacher, mentor and interlocutor, and the smartphone has more trust than teachers and parents.

[kudma]

Of course, I am against it, because I don’t understand why the war is going on and who is fighting at all. The army is sitting at home paying the mortgage, people are chipping in for drones and things. In the Kremlin, in general, everything is according to plan.

[nellyjuri]

Mines can be intercepted. If you are careful. Especially so ancient. But you have to be really careful. And turn on all the equipment to detect mines.

[tihonmarine]

Quote from nellyjuri

And turn on all the equipment to detect mines.

And what kind of equipment.

[nellyjuri]

I don't know, but it's there. I have a colleague who once graduated from the Leningrad Institute of Aviation Instrumentation and his group received the USSR State Prize for developing a device for detecting underwater mines. From an airplane, of course. And only at shallow depths. But according to him, it can also be detected from a ship, but from a fairly close distance. Something about 100-200 meters. Their device was placed on a submarine.

Electromagnetic scanning method.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote from nellyjuri

And turn on all the equipment to detect mines.

And what kind of equipment.

I'm not an expert, but, mine detectors, probably ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I'm not an expert, but, mine detectors, probably ..

It won't work in water. Sonars can be used, and other electromagnetic seekers. I have not been on minesweepers for 50 years, now probably more modern equipment.

[nellyjuri]

Thank you. Yes. Sonar. That's what he called them.

[Maks1995]

Well, since it "became known", it is unlikely that something will happen.

Somehow this is not done in such a way that it "becomes known." "if" and "may"

[Boromir1941]

to finish it as soon as possible. and so, of course, you won’t be able to do everything in a short time

[ALARI]

Damn, the Germans in WWII blocked the Gulf of Finland with a network, but here you can’t put a similar network in front of the dam. Or again, we did not think, did not suspect, hoped.

[isv000]

Quote: ALARI

Damn, the Germans in WWII blocked the Gulf of Finland with a network, but here you can’t put a similar network in front of the dam. Or again, we did not think, did not suspect, hoped.

Kherson poachers need to be contracted - drifter orders will be set up, not like nets! Give the opportunity to go fishing at the hydroelectric power station, for fish, they will catch all the mines!

[Egor53]

"Each such mine carries a charge of 3 kg of TNT. Several of these mines are capable of causing significant damage to the hydraulic structures of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station."
Well, what nonsense they write!
Mina with a charge of 3 kg. TNT, even if 100 such mines are used, they will not be able to cause any significant damage to the dam. To destroy the dam, charges of tens of tons are needed.

[Angelus]

Beware, it will make the level of the water in the reservoir drop, allowing easier attack across the reservoir, especially to the Zaporozhe Nuclear Power Plant.

[Angelus]

Perhaps emptying the reservoir by letting a lot of water go across the barrage will prevent any big conséquence if there is time to empty it.

[Boniface]

as an option - urgently put booms and PTS (anti-torpedo nets) in front of the hydroelectric dam ...

[Nephilim]

The reports say that the enemy intends to use Soviet-style NRM mines to descend down the Dnieper in order to try to blow up the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station in order to further destroy (as a result of the impact of a water spill) the induced crossings

Such messages can only be generated by complete "stavers", since a YRM pro-landing mine with three kilograms of TNT for a dam is like a pellet for an elephant. And she doesn't float! The author of this "alarm" is a complete layman. In the USSR, for such purposes, there was a floating river mine SRM, designed to destroy hydraulic structures (dams, bridges, sluice gates, water intakes, landing stages, wharves, booms), destroy or damage floating bridges, enemy boats on water obstacles with a current (rivers ). The buoyancy of the mine is calculated so that when it is lowered into the water, only a part of the upper surface of the mine, the central and six side target sensors remain above the water level. When meeting with an obstacle of any of the target sensors, the latter deviates and closes the combat circuit of the mine, causing an explosion of the explosive charge. If within a specified time (from 6 hours to 16 days) the mine does not meet with a target or other obstacle, then it will self-destruct by detonation. A time-delayed fuse ChMV-16 is used as a self-liquidator. Inclined type target sensors electrocontact. The term of the combat operation of the mine is from 6 hours to 16 days (the time is set by the miner when preparing the mine for work).
The staff of the VO website once again showed their complete incompetence.

[ASM]

Even during the Great Patriotic War, Fritz set nets across the Baltic. Is it really impossible in our time to set up a barrier against mines drifting downstream?

[tralflot1832]

As far as I know, when I went to sea, the last fishing gear factory was in Kaliningrad and provides the entire west of Russia with trawls. If they have an order, more than one baker will make such a net.

[Castro Ruiz]

It makes sense to put anti-torpedo or boom nets in front of the dam.

[Mitrich73]

The use of self-alloy mines is a so-so idea. Currents can throw mines ashore before reaching the dam. The exposed network barriers will be able to delay all the mines and prevent them from reaching the hydroelectric dam.

[isv000]

Isn't it time to indicate interest in the Kukuevsky reservoir? Put a certain number of missiles next to the dam - let them scratch their turnips!

[tlauicol]

Yarm will not have enough power for the dam. Here they will load some Yaroslavets, hang it with armor and let it go like a firewall

[Arkady007]

The game of minds has begun. Let's look at these chess.
It is a pity that the figures are human lives.

[Leader_Barmaleev]

This is some kind of enchanting nonsense - to use anti-amphibious mines to damage hydraulic structures! These are high-explosive fragmentation mines designed to incapacitate paratroopers while they are in the water - they knock off the intestines at once, they can break their legs and, sorry for the detail, they hit the balls very painfully. But the main feature of these mines is that they are absolutely insurmountable obstacle NORMAL FISHING NET! Against capital concrete, and often even earth structures, this mine is absolutely ineffective from the word. In short, fantasies about using NRM against hydraulic structures are just unhealthy fantasies of inadequate characters. I sincerely believed that this shit was written off and disposed of a long time ago, but it turned out to be out.

[Metallurg_2]

Gavrilivka is under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, located northeast of the village of Dudchany

The coordinates are quite clear. What's stopping you from calibrating?

[RoTTor]

Well....?
And what is the Russian army doing to prevent this?
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ЯРМ_(мина)

[Tarasios]

Ukrosmi has already posted the news that the Kakhovskaya HPP was mined by the Russians:
"The enemy mined the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station - Zelensky
In the event of a dam rupture, hundreds of thousands of residents of southern Ukraine will be flooded, and Crimea and the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant will remain without water. - 20:51"
By cynicism, dill propaganda has long given odds to all sorts of Goebbels ...