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The enemy, with forces of up to three BTGs, tried to develop an offensive in the direction of Novaya Kamenka - Berislav

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The enemy, with forces of up to three BTGs, tried to develop an offensive in the direction of Novaya Kamenka - Berislav

The enemy went on the offensive in the area of ​​Nova Kakhovka, at the moment it is reported that up to 3 battalion tactical groups are moving in the direction of Novaya Kamenka - Berislav. Works Ukrainian artillery. It is still impossible to say whether this is the beginning of the offensive, or reconnaissance in force. A variant is also possible with distraction of attention from the direction of the main blow.


According to unofficial information that has appeared, and there is no official one from the Ministry of Defense, up to two infantry battalions from the 128th mountain assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with the support of the tank battalion of the 17th brigade, went on the offensive in the direction of Novaya Kamenka - Berislav. Before the offensive, Ukrainian artillery worked very actively against our positions.

A large number of Ukrainian drones are reported in the air, even one reconnaissance and strike Bayraktar TB2 has been seen, but it is spinning in the distance, not risking approaching the positions of Russian troops and getting into the coverage area of ​​anti-aircraft systems.


The information is confirmed from the forward positions, it is reported that a large number of infantry went on the attack with the support of tanks in the area of ​​n.p. Pyatikhatki and Sukhanovo. The enemy already has losses, several tanks have been destroyed. Our artillery is on the move. The details of the battles will be later, if not from the Ministry of Defense, then the analysis will be carried out by experts.

In the meantime, the opinion is being expressed that the battles that have begun are not a full-fledged offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, reconnaissance in force is being carried out, the enemy is trying to pull apart our troops, to wear them out before the start of large-scale battles. As you know, now we still have problems with the number of personnel, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a numerical advantage, which they are trying to take advantage of.

As previously reported, the most likely date for the start of the offensive on Kherson is the next week, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine also needs to tighten up its reserves. At stake is Kherson and praise from the hosts from Washington.
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  1. neworange88
    neworange88 19 October 2022 11: 25
    +9
    I hope that Kherson will not be turned into a new Stalingrad, although everything is moving towards this for now. The key moments of the Battle of Stalingrad took place not in the city, but in the bare steppe north-west of Stalingrad. There are direct parallels in the battle for Kherson. They fought on the Volga , here on the Dnieper.
    The modern historian A. Isaev still writes the same thing: “The 62nd Army, which was on a starvation ration in terms of providing replenishment, ammunition and food, had very modest defensive capabilities. If the Soviet troops surrounding Stalingrad were passive, it would repeat the fate of the Primorsky Army in Sevastopol in June 1942. It is possible to defend with the Volga behind in the ruins of the city against a normally supplied army, whose hands are untied, but not for long. And he is not alone: ​​"The key moments of the Battle of Stalingrad took place not in the city, but in the bare steppe to the north-west of Stalingrad ... it was here that many times more forces were involved in the defense of the land bridge than in the city itself, as with German, so on the Soviet side." The picture is clear, harmonious, logical. One problem is lies.
    Soviet forces advanced on the German corridor, broken through to the Volga, many times. The most active battles there were on 3–12, 18–26 September and 20–26 October. Each of these blows was inflicted with considerable force.

    https://life.ru/p/1154409
  2. Uprun
    Uprun 19 October 2022 11: 29
    +26
    Time will tell ......, now on the couch just be patient, the guys on the front end of stamina and good luck .....
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 19 October 2022 13: 42
      -4
      We need to start recruiting another 400 thousand people right now, and launch the production of kamikaze drones at a couple of large enterprises in order to make hundreds of them a month! And, urgently send all T80 and T90 from storage for modernization.
      1. Genry
        Genry 19 October 2022 15: 49
        +4
        Quote: Thrifty
        Need to start right now

        They will do without your advice.
  3. hangar200
    hangar200 19 October 2022 11: 31
    -42
    Of course not. . Who is renting our cities there? Russian? Regrouping? Or did the Zuski and the brothers decide?
    1. hangar200
      hangar200 19 October 2022 11: 33
      -40
      In the Kremlin, all Zuska are sitting. I think so. My personal opinion. Although they fly from the Volga base. Rarely.
      1. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 19 October 2022 12: 26
        +13
        "I think so. My personal opinion...."
        ****************************************************************************
        As I see it, the process of your "thinking" is already taking place "by candlelight". Get used to...

        Now, a lot of things "will be dreaming" in the night. And not only to you, but also to the inhabitants of the cellars on Bankovaya...
      2. Commissar of the NKVD
        Commissar of the NKVD 19 October 2022 13: 09
        +7
        Fix the pan, it hangs on your ears. And pick up the drool, hung it with lace
  4. Leonidych
    Leonidych 19 October 2022 11: 33
    -1
    Oh, not to miss, otherwise it will be bad for us. And we need to send reinforcements. We will not hold Kherson back for a very long time, and most likely only ruins.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 19 October 2022 11: 38
      +11
      In the sense of “missing”. This has already been known for at least three months to the last hedgehog. Another thing is that the forces are exhausted and there is superiority of the enemy. What is left of Mariupol? We are restoring. And our Kherson is and will be.
      1. Dedok
        Dedok 19 October 2022 11: 43
        -2
        Quote: dmi.pris
        What's left of Mariupol? Restoring

        everything will need to be restored, not just Marik
        and our "crush in place" - allows Them to destroy civilian infrastructure
        1. Bingo
          Bingo 19 October 2022 11: 58
          +3
          Quote: Dedok
          and our "crush in place" - allows Them to destroy civilian infrastructure

          Here. And yet, everything was clear with Marik - there were almost more troops there than residents. But Kherson is OURS, and it is whole, it must be protected! So that's the very idea of ​​​​fighting in the city to wage. Still detrimental. I understand that it is justified from the military TK, but.
          He gave an example - remember why Strelkov was expelled? He offered to fill up skyscrapers on the outskirts of Donetsk, to make barricades, they say, they will destroy them anyway. The Donetsk people refused to destroy their city. And the Donetsk news was not going to fight. We are immediately preparing the city for street fighting!
      2. Ulan.1812
        Ulan.1812 19 October 2022 11: 54
        -7
        Quote: dmi.pris
        In the sense of “missing”. This has already been known for at least three months to the last hedgehog. Another thing is that the forces are exhausted and there is superiority of the enemy. What is left of Mariupol? We are restoring. And our Kherson is and will be.

        Kherson will certainly be ours.
        But what is happening is the result of the initially admitted and then in the timely preparation of reserves.
        Who is responsible for this and who must answer.
        However, I am silent about my friends either well or not at all.
      3. Petr_Koldunov
        Petr_Koldunov 19 October 2022 11: 55
        -6
        Quote: dmi.pris
        What's left of Mariupol? Restoring.

        I would return it to its original name.
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 19 October 2022 11: 59
          -3
          I support. I remember this city like Zhdanov. The last time I was there was when the city still bore the name of a Soviet leader. I really liked the city
          1. Tochilka
            Tochilka 19 October 2022 12: 19
            -1
            I definitely did not understand what the minus was for. except for the memory of how it was in the Union. Therefore, a plus from me.
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          2. Arifon
            Arifon 20 October 2022 06: 27
            0
            Let's, yeah, let's name the city again in honor of Ensign Zhdanov, a native of Mariupol, "... a Soviet figure", who "During the years of the Great Terror became one of the members of the Politburo of the Central Committee who endorsed the execution lists ... In the autumn of 1937, he became the conductor-initiator of the purges (repressions) in the Bashkir party organization, as well as in the Tatar ASSR and the Orenburg region ... "
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        2. Arifon
          Arifon 20 October 2022 06: 21
          +3
          The city was named Mariupol in 1779. What is not to like about its name, where is the "former" one?
      4. Nikolay310
        Nikolay310 19 October 2022 12: 45
        -2
        it was known about Balakleya and Izyum much earlier before ... recall the result?

        further about restoring ... apparently, you are there on the front tower crane ... or are you restoring from Olga's bot farm? Mariupol, yes ... and then, without its factories, what will this city turn into ??? only please do not sing about the resort garden city ... but Popasnaya has already been refused to be restored. and this is the regional center and a large railway junction ... restorers, mlyn
  5. Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 19 October 2022 11: 33
    +2
    As you know, now we still have problems with the number of personnel, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have a numerical advantage, which they are trying to take advantage of.

    When will this numerical advantage end?
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 19 October 2022 11: 41
      +17
      Then, when at least a million fighters appear in the two millionth army of Russia, and not outsourcing
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 19 October 2022 11: 49
        +3
        What kind of two millionth army. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation number less than a million people. Of which the Ground Forces 250 thousand. The data is open.
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 19 October 2022 11: 54
          -7
          We look at the statement of the Ministry of Defense on the number of Russian Armed Forces .. yes
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 19 October 2022 11: 57
            0
            Link to this statement. With great pleasure I will read or watch and listen. Thank you.
            1. dmi.pris
              dmi.pris 19 October 2022 12: 02
              -8
              "President of Russia Vladimir Putin has set the staff strength of the country's Armed Forces at 2 units, of which 39 are military personnel. The corresponding decree has been published on the official Internet portal of legal information. 758 units, including 1 military personnel,” it says. “Will this work? If not, then no help hi
              1. Kronos
                Kronos 19 October 2022 12: 12
                +3
                Of this million, part is in the fleet, air defense, border guards and the like who cannot take part in battles.
                1. dmi.pris
                  dmi.pris 19 October 2022 12: 25
                  -1
                  What department do the border guards go through? I agree about the fleet, aviation, etc. What do the rest of the million do in the army? They provide services, treat, teach. I have nothing about military doctors and teachers. army? Either we have a million, not two hundred thousand fighters, or it will be the way it is.
                2. wladimirjankov
                  wladimirjankov 19 October 2022 12: 49
                  0
                  border guards are in the FSB. 75 thousand serve in the fleets. Where is our army of millions?
              2. YOUR
                YOUR 19 October 2022 12: 25
                +5
                That is, the number of units is 1 people. The rest are civilian service personnel. Cooks, cleaners, drivers of household vehicles, etc., those people who receive a salary from the Moscow Region, but do not wear a uniform.
                I hope you don’t need to tell that this is the number of the RF Armed Forces, which consist of the Ground Forces, the Aerospace Forces, the Navy, the Airborne Forces, the Strategic Missile Forces, special troops (railway troops, pipeline ......) and all this is only 1
                How did you do it like this hi
                1. dmi.pris
                  dmi.pris 19 October 2022 12: 28
                  0
                  I did not. Moreover, I think that having so many civilian personnel in the army is not right.
                  1. YOUR
                    YOUR 19 October 2022 12: 33
                    +3
                    There have always been civilian personnel in the armed forces.
                    Quote: dmi.pris
                    As for military doctors and teachers, I have nothing. But there are not so many of them. Why the rest in the army?

                    But you included them in the combat composition
                    Quote: dmi.pris
                    Then, when at least a million fighters appear in the two millionth army of Russia, and not outsourcing
                    1. dmi.pris
                      dmi.pris 19 October 2022 13: 59
                      -1
                      We carefully read the comment above. I included them in the Russian army. and armed with two million. Why does this structure have a million "fighters with a mop" at the ready? I served in the Soviet Army and there were civilian employees next to us. But their number was clearly lower than now 1 to 1 ...
                      1. YOUR
                        YOUR 19 October 2022 14: 01
                        +2
                        We read your first comment on this topic
                        Quote: dmi.pris
                        Then, when at least a million fighters appear in the two millionth army of Russia, and not outsourcing
                      2. dmi.pris
                        dmi.pris 19 October 2022 14: 22
                        -2
                        We read and UNDERSTAND. Did I classify the existing civilian personnel as combat personnel? I suggested INSTEAD, or at least reduce or withdraw from the staff.
                      3. YOUR
                        YOUR 20 October 2022 02: 10
                        +2
                        Quote: dmi.pris
                        I suggested INSTEAD, or at least reduce or withdraw from the staff.

                        Which state to withdraw? Do civilians stand on the staff of combat units? What does it mean to take your out of state, where to take them out, to form another ministry called civilian assistants to the Armed Forces
                  2. Dedok
                    Dedok 19 October 2022 15: 01
                    0
                    Quote: dmi.pris
                    didn’t do it. Moreover, I think that having so many civilian personnel in the army is not true.

                    I don’t discuss the number of civilians in the army, but I want to remind you about ..... who became generals without serving a day!
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 19 October 2022 12: 17
          +2
          Together with civilian personnel, there are indeed 2 million. There are just over a million military personnel. The SV as a type of the Armed Forces, in my opinion, is 280 thousand. But this is without the Airborne Forces (a separate branch of service) and the ground units and divisions of the Northern Fleet (throughout its entire large territory), the Baltic Fleet in the Kaliningrad Region and the Black Sea Fleet in the Crimea. In our country, not all ground units and subunits are included in the SV as a type of aircraft.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 19 October 2022 12: 30
            +2
            The Airborne Forces are not included in the SV, the Marine Corps is not part of the SV. But all of them are included in the mentioned figure of 1, as well as the l / s of the Navy, as well as the l / s of the Strategic Missile Forces, etc.
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 19 October 2022 14: 14
              +1
              Do I deny it? I wrote specifically about the number of Ground Forces as a species. And about the Airborne Forces, that this is a separate branch of the military, I also wrote. In most countries where there are analogues of our Airborne Forces, they are an integral part of the Ground Forces. For example, in the USA and Germany. I will only emphasize once again that the Northern, Baltic and Black Sea Fleets include ground units and subunits that are neither part of the SV as a branch of the Armed Forces, nor part of the Marine Corps. For example, the 14th Army Corps of the Northern Fleet. There are two motorized rifle brigades and other units and subunits. That is, these are motorized rifles with Arctic specifics. And separately there is the Kirkenes Marine Corps Brigade. What unites them is that they are part of the Coastal Troops of the Northern Fleet. Similarly, the 11th Army Corps of the Coastal Troops of the Baltic Fleet consists of several motorized rifle, artillery, and missile brigades. And in parallel there is a brigade of marines. That is, in fact, the 11th and 14th corps are ground forces that are not part of the Ground Forces. But it's not the Marine Corps. .
    2. Ratibor_A
      Ratibor_A 19 October 2022 11: 42
      -4
      Not soon, there are 40 million of them, be patient, work in this direction is underway ...
    3. Sergei V
      Sergei V 19 October 2022 12: 01
      -5
      never, if on 300 thousand mobilized, everything will end
  6. VSZMK
    VSZMK 19 October 2022 11: 40
    0
    According to military correspondents Readovka, Ukrainian militants began to advance in the direction of Novaya Kamenka - Berislav. About 1000 people are going into battle, consisting of two battalions, supported by artillery and many UAVs.
  7. ZIF122
    ZIF122 19 October 2022 11: 50
    +4
    Groping for weaknesses in the defense! Hold on guys!
  8. Paul Siebert
    Paul Siebert 19 October 2022 11: 50
    +13
    Hang on, guys!
    May Archangel Michael protect you!
    I suddenly came across Tyutchev's 1863 poem. and dumbfounded.
    As if he saw our day from there ...


    A terrible dream over us,
    Horrible, ugly dream:
    In the blood to toe, we fight with the dead,
    Resurrected for a new funeral.

    For the eighth month these battles last,
    Heroic ardor, betrayal and lies,
    The brothel brothel in the house of prayer
    In one hand crucifix and knife.

    And the whole world, like intoxicated with lies,
    All kinds of evil, all the tricks of evil! ..
    No, never so daring is the truth of God
    Human curse to battle did not call! ..

    And this cry of sympathy for the blind,
    World cry to frantic struggle,
    Debauchery of minds and distortion of the word -
    Everything has risen and everything threatens you,

    Oh, native land! such a militia
    The world has not seen since the original days ...
    Great to know about Russia, your meaning!
    Take heart, stand, cross, and overcome!

    F. I. Tyutchev, 1863
    1. expert
      expert 19 October 2022 12: 24
      +1
      Thank you.
      If it were possible, I would put a hundred pluses !!! good
  9. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 19 October 2022 11: 51
    +8
    I don’t understand, we have more than 100 fighters at the front + parts of the LDNR + hundreds of helicopters and planes, how do the Armed Forces of Ukraine dare to attack with 000-2 battalions ?!

    Not only that, why do they succeed?

    Why, when they advance to our positions, our artillery does not grind them into trash? It’s not like shooting at a dug-in enemy, here they are not protected by anything on the march, here the Grad will be effective and mortars, but I’m not even talking about howitzers.

    We don't have intelligence?! Or can we hit the target only if it is motionless and with the tenth projectile ?!

    Why, when they approach our positions, our helicopters do not shoot at their armored vehicles and conventional vehicles, as in a shooting range? What's stopping you?
    The speed of the helicopter is 250 km per hour, that is, in an hour our helicopter pilots can arrive at the enemy's breakthrough area and shoot him.
    The ATGM range (6-10 km) allows you to destroy enemy equipment without entering the MANPADS strike zone, moreover, firing from an area controlled by us excludes the capture of pilots in the event of a hard landing of a helicopter.

    What is our problem? Someone can explain?

    In theory, the Armed Forces of Ukraine should not have any opportunity for an offensive, we have an advantage in aviation, artillery, tanks, MLRS, OTRK, but in fact it’s the other way around, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been on the move for the second month and I don’t think that they have really really huge losses , because the same brigades are constantly heard, they are not taken anywhere for reorganization and replenishment of personnel, obviously they do not lose 1000 people a day, otherwise the Armed Forces of Ukraine would lose 3 brigades every week.
    1. Vladimir80
      Vladimir80 19 October 2022 11: 58
      -1
      I will assume that there is no indicated number of l / s, there is no indicated weapons in the required quantity, there is no proper intelligence and there is no proper communication - there were reports of an offensive about raisins a week before the surrender of the city, but they could not do anything ... unfortunately, such a reality. ..
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 19 October 2022 12: 15
        -3
        Raisins are a separate story, in my opinion they left it on purpose to justify the need for mobilization.

        There, in general, it was heard about 60 cops who defended this city for a week and mobilized from the LDNR. There were no urban battles, nothing, they just left and abandoned a bunch of equipment.
    2. Sergei V
      Sergei V 19 October 2022 12: 07
      0
      Well, they have already written in Western sources for a long time that the biggest problem of the Russian army is the connection and interconnection of different branches of the military. Everyone lives on their own. And so far this problem has not been solved
      1. Cartalon
        Cartalon 19 October 2022 12: 15
        +5
        It has not been resolved for more than a hundred years, nothing has changed, every war begins with the fact that we have a bad situation, with communications, intelligence and interaction between military branches.
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 19 October 2022 12: 20
        0
        I think this is partly why Surovikin, after being appointed commander of the NMD, retained the post of Commander-in-Chief of the VKS.
      3. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 19 October 2022 12: 27
        0
        communication and interconnection of different branches of the armed forces.


        But is it really impossible to solve this problem in 9 months?

        Is it really impossible to send spotters with communications from the VKS and artillery to the front line, so that in which case they themselves, in the interests of those units to which they are assigned, quickly transmit the correct coordinates and hit the enemy ?!

        Is it really impossible to work with artillery and aviation promptly? Well, how many more cities do you need to leave and lose people so that it is like theirs, and not look for some kind of your own way through the ass of some colonel or general?

        Is it really impossible to somehow allocate on-duty weapons (artillery, aviation) that would be directly controlled by the battalion commander who is at the front and who right now needs support, and not a general sitting 50-100 km from the front ?!

        With our equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in general, they should not stick their heads out of the trenches, but they are advancing along the entire front.

        Today there is an evacuation from Kherson, but where will it be from in a month? From Sevastopol?
    3. fuel oil
      fuel oil 19 October 2022 12: 07
      0
      You ask strange questions. And when a SVO (special MILITARY !!! operation) is carried out, it is necessary to destroy the supply routes of manpower and equipment to those against whom it is carried out? Or not? That is the question to which there is no answer for 8 months ... This SVO is for a long time until those who make decisions get bored ... Well, or until we choke on blood.
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 19 October 2022 12: 21
        0
        Well, stop talking nonsense about supply routes !!! Look at the map of Ukraine, everything is in dredges like a notebook in a cage.

        The United States in Vietnam could not cut off the supply lines of the Vietnamese army, and you want to cut them in Ukraine.

        It is impossible to break the pontoons near the front line, although they are constantly fired upon, they are all like a sieve in holes, but they allow equipment to pass through it, and in the depths of Ukraine it will not be possible to destroy the bridge, which, moreover, is far from alone across the Dnieper and will be easy replaced by a pontoon.

        Here the task is nowhere simpler - the Armed Forces of Ukraine are moving towards our positions in columns, a couple of helicopters are carrying 24 ATGMs, why don’t they smash them to pieces?

        Our artillery has been in position for a long time, tied up and oriented, but cannot hit the enemy column. Why? How so? The whole field around is in funnels, and dill is a twig and is not shy.

        Can’t we supply mines in the right quantity too?

        I don’t even want to talk about Krasnopol.

        And you're talking about bridges across the Dnieper.
        1. fuel oil
          fuel oil 19 October 2022 12: 29
          0
          Dear friend, unfortunately this is not nonsense and my gag, this is reality. I perceive all this, my family has already been touched by a great tragedy, how I can help our volunteers from my salary and pension, who regularly go to the front line. My son-in-law personally collected medicines and equipment.
          1. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan 19 October 2022 12: 52
            +2
            Dear friend, unfortunately this is not nonsense and my gag, this is reality. They deliver, supply and replenish.


            To stop the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from abroad, it is necessary that our troops control the border of Ukraine, as it was in Afghanistan, and even then, this did not help much, but at least the Taliban did not receive tanks and artillery.

            An example with Vietnam - having a common border with China, Vietnam received everything from tanks to air defense systems and the United States, with all their might, could not do anything about it with inhuman methods of warfare and not because they did not want to, although they bombed the bridges godlessly.

            By blowing up a bridge or several bridges, you will not achieve anything. All this will be duplicated by pontoons, and several.

            And the pontoon is a difficult target, it’s just a metal structure, there’s nothing to burn and nothing to explode, it’s not so easy to break it, as practice shows, it continues to perform its function even after a direct hit by a rocket, the video on the network confirms this completely. To break the pontoon, you need to try hard artillery, moreover, large calibers and for a long time. In the rear of the enemy, 400-500 km from the front, this is much more difficult to do.

            If, of course, we had extra long-range missiles, then of course we could hit everything in a row, but I think we are limited in them, so we try to use them effectively.

            During the Second World War, bridges were destroyed both during our retreat and during the retreat of the enemy, and this did not greatly interfere with the advance of the troops, since pontoon crossings were quickly built, and destroyed paths were repaired.

            Even the regular undermining of the railroad by partisans could not prevent the supply of the German army.

            Based on all this, I do not share the opinion of people who believe that the destroyed bridge will deprive the Armed Forces of Ukraine of supply.

            I myself also spend one-fifth of my monthly income on helping our army through volunteers and I pack a backpack for myself in case of mobilization. But I want to understand what our problem is and why, with an advantage in technology, we are retreating.
            1. fuel oil
              fuel oil 19 October 2022 13: 04
              0
              You see, the technology of war has taken a step forward compared to the Second World War. Of those with whom I had to talk, the main losses are from gouging, inexperience and indifference. by and large, I didn’t bury the paper, etc.) a very accurate blow is delivered there on the square. Polish mines with aluminum fragments silently flying up turn everything that is unprotected into mincemeat ... This is such a SVO. We are essentially extras, conductors in power structures. This business, this is money for the military-industrial complex and the revival of economies. All this has already been in history, nothing new.
        2. fuel oil
          fuel oil 19 October 2022 12: 36
          +1
          By the way, about the "rod." After talking with those who returned, they confirm that on the other side they are pumped up with such filth that, with injuries that look incompatible with life, the gentlemen again rise to the attack. A man who went through two Chechen ones said ... I can’t say that chatterbox, rather always a silent one.
    4. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 19 October 2022 12: 13
      0
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

      Why, when they advance to our positions, our artillery does not grind them into trash?

      Because two people can play this game.

      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

      Why, when they approach our positions, our helicopters do not shoot at their armored vehicles and conventional vehicles, as in a shooting range?

      Because the range of the Osa air defense system is up to 10 km.

      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      What is our problem? Someone can explain?

      In hats.
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 19 October 2022 12: 39
        0
        Because the range of the Osa air defense system is up to 10 km.


        Such a range of destruction is only for a target that flies at high altitude, and does not hide like a helicopter behind the folds of the terrain.

        In addition, as soon as the Osa air defense system turns on the radar, the Kh-31P from the Su-35 / Su-30 will immediately fly into it.

        In addition, there are various types of UAVs that can both detect air defense systems and destroy them. Now several videos have appeared of how the Lancet UAV destroys the S-300 launcher, the 36D6 radar and attacks the Wasp on the road on the move. All this is clearly in the depths of the enemy's defense, and it is much easier to destroy all this at the line of contact.

        And there has been no hatred for a long time, everyone understands perfectly well that the confrontation is not with Ukraine alone, but also with Western countries supporting Ukraine.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 19 October 2022 12: 48
          -3
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          as soon as the Osa air defense system turns on the radar in it instantly

          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          And there has been no hat-taking for a long time

          Oh, well.
    5. bayard
      bayard 19 October 2022 13: 17
      +2
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      we have more than 100 fighters at the front + parts of the LDNR +

      This is the trouble - against the enemy's almost 1 million, we have no more than 200 thousand in the theater in total.
      ONE to FIVE!
      Still !
      The mobilization has not been completed, and the mobilized formations / units / subunits will gain combat readiness and combat capability (!) Not earlier than the end of November - the end of December.
      We lost TIME for mobilization and combat deployment.
      Lost strategically.
      This is treason. Treason both in the General Staff and in the towers of the military-political leadership. Seven months of mantras and spells "MOBILIZATION WILL NOT BE!" while the enemy mobilized wave after wave and was saturated with Western weapons to replace those knocked out ... Our troops fought without rotations (at least the forces of the Donbass corps) and replenishments.
      And the General Staff and the Supreme High Command, like a broken record, kept repeating "MOBILIZATION WILL NOT BE!" .
      Not only that, they didn’t even move their little toe to prepare this mobilization! No lists were prepared, no uniforms, no equipment, no places of deployment, training and combat coordination ... "Partial mobilization" fell out of the blue ... "winter came AS ALWAYS suddenly" ... And no one was held responsible .
      And no wonder. request
      After all, the other day the Supreme High Command dragged on the usual again: "There will be no mobilization !!! 300 thousand were called up and EVERYTHING !!!" ... "No more mobilization" ...
      And there is nowhere to receive new waves of mobilization - no places of deployment, no uniforms / equipment, no officers / commanders / instructors for new units / formations ... nor the proper amount of weapons (I'm not talking about machine guns) and military equipment in good / combat-ready condition.
      According to the mind, it is necessary to carry out three such (in terms of volume) waves of mobilization in order to ensure a grouping with a total number of 1 million people in the Ukrainian theater of operations.
      Nothing less is impossible if we want to conduct successful offensive operations and win. And all this mass of troops must be provided with all the necessary supplies - from underwear and shoes to tanks, self-propelled guns, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, military air defense, means of secure communications, reconnaissance, surveillance, target designation ... to ensure life in front-line conditions, all types of supplies. ..
      And all this should not become a bunch of "confused mobs", but a well-trained, well-coordinated and equipped military force capable of breaking any enemy defense (not only the Armed Forces of Ukraine).
      How much do you think all this takes time, effort and money?
      And who should and is able to do all this?
      ... If before that, in PEACEFUL and fat years, all these geniuses of headquarters thought and rear organization ... everything about ....... "loved" for their own benefit ?? If the Defense Ministry is still headed by the "best in the world" minister without a military education who did not serve in the Army? And out of EIGHT of his deputies, only TWO have a military education and served in the Army?
      And if the Supreme High Command suits all this, then ... why would one expect from him ... something more? And so it is - EVERYTHING IS SUITABLE!!
      "There will be NO mobilization!" .

      "Graze peaceful peoples
      Freedom does not call you
      Why do slaves need the gifts of Liberty?
      They must be cut ... or sheared ...
      Paying you from year to year
      Rattle yoke da Beach."
      A.S. Pushkin (who is our everything).

      Alas, everything is sad and sur ... realistic.
      1. Vladimir80
        Vladimir80 19 October 2022 13: 57
        +1
        sad and looks like a gamble - in which the chief set the task, and the performers lied about what they could do on their own ... and they lied and lie - the chief said "take only those with experience" (because others are of no use in modern warfare), but they take all in a row ... and most importantly, clear and honest GOALS have not been announced in 0 months !!!
      2. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 20 October 2022 12: 48
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        I don’t know how many people the Armed Forces of Ukraine have in the ranks, but they are advancing not with a million soldiers, this is a fact, but with 2-3 battalions against our prepared positions with anti-tank systems, with infantry fighting vehicles and tanks, with helicopters and planes.

        Why?

        Are they suicidal or is everything so disgusting with our command and control that the company commander on whom the battalion is rushing cannot call for any support from either artillery or aviation?
        1. bayard
          bayard 20 October 2022 14: 46
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          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          I don’t know how many people the Armed Forces of Ukraine have in the ranks, but they are advancing not with a million soldiers, this is a fact, but with 2-3 battalions on our prepared positions

          Their entire army has a different level of training, and they are deployed not only along the front line, but also in the garrisons of cities, they are kept near the border with the Federal Republic, the Republic of Belarus. And today they already have seriously less than that - a mobilized million. So much was on the eve of the start of the "counterattack" on Kherson and in the Kharkov region.
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          2-3 battalions to our prepared positions

          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Why?

          Zaluzny is categorically against it, but Zely's curators are inexorable, therefore, knowing that he is sending troops into an unrequited meat grinder, he tries to do it ... dosed. Don't burn it all at once.
          The area there is open, flat as a table, our aviation dominates the air.
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          everything is so disgusting with the command and control of the troops?

          Not anymore . Now the quality of management is changing for the better.
          But they (traitors) are by no means suicidal. On the contrary, they VERY love life and zealously protect their "precious" skins. And as one honest person said quite recently: "The worst thing that happened was that not a single general responsible for the failures and defeats, the death of our servicemen and civilians at the hands of the Nazis ... shot himself. "Our" generals stopped shooting from shame " .
          Surovikin did a good job - he took responsibility and took over all the management, he acts competently. But he has to rake the Augean stables of someone else's betrayal, sabotage and sabotage.
      3. Seal
        Seal 20 October 2022 17: 55
        +1
        What would you like? Our army, so to speak, is flesh and blood. And the commanders in the Army are civil servants. Only not civilians or such as the Ministry of Emergency Situations and the Ministry of Internal Affairs (I don’t remember what this type of civil servants are now called), but military civil servants. And why should military civil servants be an order of magnitude more competent, more responsible, more decent, more personally courageous, and so on, than their counterparts from the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the Ministry of Internal Affairs or from civilian structures of the executive power?
        Have you seen many officials in the Government who have a full range of such qualities as competence, honesty, conscientiousness, decency, and at the same time personally brave? And at the regional level? What about at the municipal level?
        No, I believe that there are such in the state civil service, as well as in the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and so on. It's just that I personally was not lucky to meet them. Most often, I came across officials who had only a separate set of positive qualities. For example, I personally met bold, but almost completely incompetent officials. And also there were competent officials, but cowards. Or competent, but crooks. It's the same in the Army.
    6. wladimirjankov
      wladimirjankov 19 October 2022 13: 32
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      Why, when they approach our positions, our helicopters do not shoot at their armored vehicles and conventional vehicles, as in a shooting range? What's stopping you?
      Most likely there are very few helicopters. This is confirmed by the fact that even at the beginning of the NWO, our columns went there without any air cover and without reconnaissance, while suffering heavy losses. We have few planes and UAVs.
      1. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 20 October 2022 12: 52
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        We may really not be able to cover each column, there are a lot of columns and they go for hours, but both artillery and aviation are simply obliged to support the company stronghold to which the enemy company or battalion has entered.

        Even a pair of Ka-52s is already 24 ATGMs that they can launch at a target from 6 km, and if you don’t destroy a tank company with a motorized infantry battalion, then significantly weaken their power right from the very first approach.
    7. Bayun
      Bayun 19 October 2022 14: 11
      +2
      In fact, apart from the beginning of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, they did not carry out ANY (!) Army operation - even the capture of Mariupol does not pull on the scale - operations, not to mention a front-line one. A complete feeling for the future (or already?) Agreement with the border along the Dnieper.
  10. I dare to_notice_
    I dare to_notice_ 19 October 2022 12: 05
    -1
    Not "tried", but "trying".
    And it's not hopeless...
  11. steelmaker
    steelmaker 19 October 2022 12: 29
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    Do you have any idea about the area where the fighting is taking place? There are only fields, limited by forest plantations and settlements. Steppe from horizon to horizon. According to information, only ours are digging in. So why are these concentrations of enemy forces not intensively detected and destroyed ??? And I will answer you. Because the lack of aviation, and unmanned too. And that's the main thing, I think. In Iraq, the United States destroyed all these concentrations from the air at once! Yes, and in Syria, remember the defeat of the Wagner column. And only to our commanders, everything interferes and something is missing.
  12. Chronos
    Chronos 19 October 2022 13: 26
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    Judging by what is reported from all sources, the most adequate assessment of events is:

    While Surovikin is creating a trend for the truth for the layman, TV channels and military correspondents continue to throw "countless hordes" of attacking dill onto the fan.
    It is certainly hype and probably brings you subscribers for your advertising fees. But while the reconnaissance in combat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as part of 2 company-tactical groups will be presented as "The Armed Forces of Ukraine went on the attack on Kherson", pants will have to be worn with yellow spots forward, brown back. And we still have to win this war.

    UPD When the Armed Forces of Ukraine actually start an offensive operation in one of the directions, it will look completely different. At all. Otherwise
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  14. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 19 October 2022 16: 47
    +1
    Quote: steel maker
    So why are these concentrations of enemy forces not intensively detected and destroyed ??? And I will answer you. Because the lack of aviation, and unmanned too. And this is the main thing, I think.

    The main thing that is missing is the infantry. No aircraft and drones will replace it.
  15. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 19 October 2022 18: 51
    +2
    Where is our aviation? Where is the artillery, MLRS? A thousand went on the offensive in an open field, an ideal target. Do we have intelligence at all?
  16. Edas
    Edas 21 October 2022 08: 36
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    Russia is becoming a laughingstock for the West. They got into Ukraine and rake. All hope for the winter, for Europe to freeze.