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Kuleba: Ukraine will turn to Israel about the "immediate" supply of air defense systems

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Kuleba: Ukraine will turn to Israel about the "immediate" supply of air defense systems

Ukraine intends to receive anti-aircraft systems from Israel and in the near future officially apply to Tel Aviv for the "immediate" transfer of such systems to Kyiv. This statement was made by Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba.


The Ukrainian minister, who was forced to sit in a bunker the day before during an attack by Russian drones on Kyiv's power grid facilities, came to the conclusion that the Ukrainian army urgently needs air defense systems and as many as possible. Since Europe and the United States have already promised everything they could and are no longer giving, Kyiv decided to turn to Israel.

According to Kuleba, in the near future Ukraine will send a request to Israel for the supply of air defense systems or technologies, and "immediately." The Ukrainian minister is sure that he will not be refused in Tel Aviv. Kuleba did not explain what such confidence is based on, but recalled that he had experience of such appeals, it was he who turned to Europe and the United States with similar requests.

At the moment, it is not known how Israel will react to Kuleba's request, but one of the Ukrainian ministers has already been sent there along one route known to all Russian speakers. As it turned out, the head of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry Oleksiy Reznikov wanted to discuss the possibility of supplying Israeli weapons with his Israeli counterpart Benny Gantz, but was refused, the Israeli minister did not want to talk with Reznikov.

According to the local press, Israel refused to discuss the supply of arms to Ukraine against the backdrop of Russia's disapproval of such contacts, which is logical. Tel Aviv does not want to spoil relations with Moscow, but also with Kyiv. This position has been maintained for quite a long time and the Israelis do not want to lose good relations with Russia for the sake of a possible delivery of one or two complexes to Kyiv.

Recall that earlier Dmitry Medvedev, who holds the post of Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia, recalled that relations between Moscow and Tel Aviv could deteriorate very much if supplies start weapons to Ukraine.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 18 October 2022 17: 22
    -5
    Ukraine intends to receive anti-aircraft systems from Israel and in the near future officially apply to Tel Aviv for the "immediate" transfer of such systems to Kyiv.
    And I see no reason why they won't. request
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 18 October 2022 17: 24
      +15
      reasons for not getting them
      Israel will not sell for free No. .
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 18 October 2022 17: 48
        +1
        No matter how much you say halva (air defense), it will not become sweeter in your mouth. laughing
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 18 October 2022 17: 53
        +3
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Israel will not sell for free

        And for money too.
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 18 October 2022 18: 03
          +3
          Bankova is confident that the Kremlin put pressure on Israel, which is why Jerusalem refused to provide military assistance to Ukraine.

          The Israeli Foreign Ministry denied the statement of the Minister for Diaspora Affairs, Nachman Shay, about providing military assistance to Ukraine.

          Earlier, Israeli Diaspora Minister Nahman Shai tweeted: “Reports surfaced this morning that Iran is transferring ballistic missiles to Russia. There is no longer any doubt which side Israel should choose in this bloody conflict.”

          However, the Israeli Foreign Ministry reported that these words of the Minister for Diaspora Affairs are his personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of Israel.

          Also, according to the Haaretz newspaper, Israel rejected Ukraine's request for a telephone conversation between the defense ministers of the two countries, Benny Gantz and Alexei Reznikov.
      3. dedusik
        dedusik 18 October 2022 18: 19
        +2
        Israel rejects request for phone call between Gantz and Ukraine's defense minister
        Jerusalem and Kyiv have been trying for weeks to arrange a phone call between Defense Minister Gantz and his Ukrainian counterpart, but the call has been delayed five times. On Monday, Russia warned that if Israel were to supply weapons to Ukraine, it would "destroy political relations between the two countries."' https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-10-18/ty-article/.premium/israel-rejects-request-for-call-between-gantz-and-ukraines-defense-minister/00000183 -e9e8-da05-a7ab-edfcc49b0000
      4. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 18 October 2022 19: 10
        -2
        Israel will not sell for free no
        Precisely, these can only beg, but it’s not for Israel for free, so if a Russian scientist is killed or an airplane is substituted for the terrorist state of Israel.
      5. Alexei
        Alexei 18 October 2022 20: 31
        +1
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        And I don't see any reason why they won't.

        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        Israel will not sell for free

        In fact, both states and Europe can pay for them, and Israel will check them for Iranian UAVs for one. Personally, I would be surprised if pragmatic Israel refuses.
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 18 October 2022 20: 57
          +2
          Quote: Alexej
          and Israel for one will check them on Iranian UAVs.

          To do this, they do not need to be taken anywhere. Israel regularly checks them on Iranian UAVs, on its own borders. Iran regularly probes them. This year alone, more than ten Iranian drones have been shot down.
          1. Alexei
            Alexei 18 October 2022 21: 14
            -2
            Has it been tested on Russian aircraft? And then suddenly Russia will supply something to Iran, but the air defense has not been checked ...
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 18 October 2022 21: 39
              +1
              Quote: Alexej
              And then suddenly Russia will deliver something to Iran

              And what does the Russian Federation have to deliver to Iran? When she herself buys drones from him.
              Russian weapons cannot defeat the unfortunate Ukraine for almost a year, so why should Israel be afraid? In reality, the AOI would have multiplied the country by zero in 3 months if it were a hostile neighbor.
              1. Alexei
                Alexei 18 October 2022 22: 47
                -1
                Quote: And Us Rat
                And what does the Russian Federation have to deliver to Iran? When she herself buys drones from him.
                Russian weapons cannot defeat the unfortunate Ukraine for almost a year, so why should Israel be afraid? In reality, the AOI would have multiplied the country by zero in 3 months if it were a hostile neighbor.

                Yes, the Russian Federation has a lot of things that Iran does not have. But there are no drones, because mass production in our country is still lame on both legs. And the point is not in Russian weapons, but in the nature of the war - it was contractual, and perhaps it is now, although it seems to me that the agreements have ended. The IDF and its neighbors cannot multiply to zero, all conflicts do not stop. You will probably object, like there were operations, and the goal was not to unwind Palestine and others to zero ... and I will answer that here, too, an operation, and not a full-scale war.
                1. And Us Rat
                  And Us Rat 18 October 2022 23: 53
                  0
                  Along the way, all the same, it became full-scale.
              2. Revolver
                Revolver 19 October 2022 01: 16
                -1
                Quote: And Us Rat
                In reality, the AOI would have multiplied the country by zero in 3 months if it were a hostile neighbor.

                Here I will allow myself to disagree with you. How long has Hamastan been in Gaza? How many times have you tried to do something with them, either destroy them, or remove them from power, or force them to behave in a civilized way? And the result? And this despite the fact that you do not see in them either past or future fellow citizens, and even more so the same Russian the Jewslike you, only washed Ukrainianism Islamism brains.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 19 October 2022 03: 41
                  0
                  Quote: Nagan
                  How long has Hamastan been in Gaza? How many times have you tried to do something with them, either destroy them, or remove them from power, or force them to behave in a civilized way? And the result?

                  The result is a cynical experiment in the total separation of Arabs from Jews in terms of economy, logistics, medicine, access to the labor market, etc. due to Israel's unilateral withdrawal from the Gaza Strip. The results - for the Zionists there are more pluses than minuses, Hamas in power on a strip of land a couple of hundred square kilometers has so far been beneficial - in terms of money, in terms of human lives and social smut. And it can be defeated only as a result of the re-occupation of Gaza, which was hardly got rid of in 2005.
                  1. alexsipin
                    alexsipin 19 October 2022 15: 04
                    +1
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Quote: Nagan
                    How long has Hamastan been in Gaza? How many times have you tried to do something with them, either destroy them, or remove them from power, or force them to behave in a civilized way? And the result?

                    The result is a cynical experiment in the total separation of Arabs from Jews in terms of economy, logistics, medicine, access to the labor market, etc. due to Israel's unilateral withdrawal from the Gaza Strip. The results - for the Zionists there are more pluses than minuses, Hamas in power on a strip of land a couple of hundred square kilometers has so far been beneficial - in terms of money, in terms of human lives and social smut. And it can be defeated only as a result of the re-occupation of Gaza, which was hardly got rid of in 2005.

                    Welcome back, Krasnodar. It seems like they refused to sell weapons to Ukraine.
                    1. Krasnodar
                      Krasnodar 19 October 2022 17: 28
                      +1
                      Greetings, thank you!
                      Refused, because. there is no sense in the financial, political, military, and in general - the Jewish elites do not like Ukrainians - even before the NVO, they were deployed by whole planes back at customs. But.
                      If Israel develops a new anti-drone tool, then it is quite possible that they will want to test it on the massive attacks of Iranian UAVs in Ukraine. The question is whether the Jerusalem politicians will agree with this.
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 18 October 2022 21: 44
          +4
          Quote: Alexej
          Israel will test them on Iranian UAVs for one thing

          Yes, these UAVs have already been tested in the latest confrontation in Gaza
          The UAV flew into the territory of Israel, then remembered something, forgot something at home and flew to the launcher, but there they didn’t even have time to be happy about it.
          1. Alexei
            Alexei 18 October 2022 22: 51
            -1
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            Yes, these UAVs have already been tested in the latest confrontation in Gaza
            The UAV flew into the territory of Israel, then remembered something, forgot something at home and flew to the launcher, but there they didn’t even have time to be happy about it.

            My God, how backward we are after all ... But Israel is handsome. Everything is understood.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 18 October 2022 23: 21
              +2
              Quote: Alexej
              Oh my god, how backward are we?

              Well, what are you, where is Israel to the T-62, which is now being modernized.
    2. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 18 October 2022 17: 27
      +2
      Israel - Nazis and Bandera? Oh well! There are big doubts... Let's wait and see.
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      2. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 18 October 2022 19: 11
        0
        Israel - Nazis and Bandera? Well, well! There are big doubts...
        There will be money, there will be no doubt...
    3. ViktorX
      ViktorX 18 October 2022 17: 32
      0
      The reason may be the reciprocal deliveries of S-300 / S400 systems by Russia to Syria, after which the preventive strikes of Israeli aircraft on Syria may abruptly come to naught
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 18 October 2022 17: 59
        -1
        Quote from ViktorX
        Russian deliveries to Syria of S-300/S400 systems,

        The C-300 stood for 4 years in Syria, without firing a single shot, they took it to where it was needed, and now they will bring it back.
        So for your memory, neither the C300 / 400 can fire at Israeli aircraft only once.
        1. ViktorX
          ViktorX 18 October 2022 18: 13
          +1
          Well, I guess it all depends on what you want....
          And I am sure that not now, but in the future we will provide a proxy war to Israel
          we can....
          Will Israel want to strain, given, on the one hand, our threats, on the other hand, the fact that Ukraine traditionally wants to take everything that is free
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 18 October 2022 21: 02
            0
            Quote from ViktorX
            And I am sure that not now, but in the future we will provide a proxy war to Israel
            we can....

            Rakes of the USSR do not give rest? Did you learn the lesson of December 26, 1991 poorly?
            1. ViktorX
              ViktorX 19 October 2022 10: 00
              -1
              Of course, we must remember the past and learn its lessons....
              However, the past is not the law for the future.
              We lost in the Russo-Japanese War and lost half of Sakhalin.
              But in 1945 we returned this half, and with the Kuril Islands in addition.
              Judging by your principles, after 1905 you would have surrendered to Japan one territory after another ....
          2. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 18 October 2022 21: 08
            +3
            Quote from ViktorX
            it all depends on desires...

            TOAST
            I have desire To buy a house, but I don't have the opportunity.
            I have the opportunity to buy a goat, but I have no desire.
            So let's drink to
            so that our desires always
            matched ours opportunities.
            That's all I can answer you.
            1. ViktorX
              ViktorX 19 October 2022 08: 57
              0
              I think we have the opportunity!
              And the outlook is excellent, given global warming trends....
              Unlike Israel...
              1. Vitaly gusin
                Vitaly gusin 19 October 2022 11: 34
                +1
                Quote from ViktorX
                prospects are excellent

                It is quite possible in the XNUMXnd century, and today Iran presents these opportunities with the weapons of the XNUMXth century.
                1. ViktorX
                  ViktorX 19 October 2022 11: 43
                  0
                  Well, the XNUMXst century has just begun.
                  In some articles, for example. here
                  https://inosmi.ru/20220905/poteplenie-255887797.html
                  In particular, they write: "Over the next 50 years, an increase in average temperatures, combined with an increase in humidity, will make large areas of the planet completely uninhabitable."
                  And just Israel, based on its location, is in the "risk zone".
                  1. Vitaly gusin
                    Vitaly gusin 19 October 2022 12: 07
                    +1
                    Quote from ViktorX
                    Well, the XNUMXst century has just begun.

                    In almost two years it will be 1/4 of the XNUMXst century, and this is not at all small
                    Quote from ViktorX
                    And just Israel, based on its location, is in the "risk zone".

                    I'll tell you a "secret"
                    Today, Israel uses 70-80% desalinated sea water, and also sells water to Jordan.
                    70% of waste water after cleaning is used in agriculture.
                    And this is the Negev desert, strawberries all year round.

                    So, if you have problems with unsuitable living conditions, you can come to Israel.
        2. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 18 October 2022 19: 12
          -2
          So for your memory, neither the C300 / 400 can fire at Israeli aircraft only once.
          The main thing is not how many times, but with what result.
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 18 October 2022 21: 01
            +1
            Quote: Trapp1st
            The main thing is not how many times, but with what result.

            Once, with a posthumous order.
            1. Trapp1st
              Trapp1st 19 October 2022 09: 41
              -1
              Once, with a posthumous order.
              The relatives of the vulture will be handed over.
      2. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 18 October 2022 21: 00
        -4
        Quote from ViktorX
        The reason may be the reciprocal deliveries of S-300 / S400 systems by Russia to Syria, after which the preventive strikes of Israeli aircraft on Syria may abruptly come to naught

        Can not. The vaunted S-300 / S400 antediluvian Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot finally land, and you are puffing out your cheeks at the IDF Air Force. Isn't it funny yourself?
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 19 October 2022 01: 27
          +1
          Quote: And Us Rat
          The vaunted S-300 / S400 antediluvian Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot finally land,

          Already 2 times they landed, according to the numbers. But here the former fellow campers in the socialist camp are slowly scraping the bottom of the barrel for Soviet-made aircraft, and what they are scraping up there, they are sending to/on.
        2. ViktorX
          ViktorX 19 October 2022 08: 54
          0
          And in Israel, we don’t need to “finally land” their Air Force. It will be enough to shoot down a few planes ....
          Or do you claim that "our vaunted" S-300/400s (including modern modifications) did not shoot down a single Air Force aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for the entire Ukrainian company?
          Then, not only in airplanes can be the case.
          For example, the Syrian army or some Hezbollah may receive several hundred drones (of course, of their own production :-))....
          I am by no means calling for starting a war with Israel, but to make it clear: if they want to add problems at our side, then we will be able to mutually organize the problems at their side.
          1. zombirusrev
            zombirusrev 19 October 2022 11: 12
            +1
            why our leadership does not create problems for gay Europeans, but wants to be friends with them with all the fibers of the soul in a trading way .. ??? Even though they filled up the saloreich with weapons ..
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    4. avg
      avg 18 October 2022 17: 32
      +4
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      And I see no reason why they won't.

      One of the reasons is "as much as possible and as soon as possible", and also urgently transfer technology and everything is free ... And they won't say thanks for sure, it's good if they don't send it. This is starting to get annoying for a lot of people.
      1. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 19 October 2022 02: 58
        0
        Quote: avg
        This is starting to get annoying for a lot of people.

        This is to put it mildly. Here it is more appropriate mother.
    5. konstantin68
      konstantin68 18 October 2022 17: 36
      -1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      And I see no reason why they won't.

      What are you? Truth? And, for example, in response to the Russian Federation, Iran can throw a couple of technologies on their materiel. How do you like this reason?
      Israel will never deliver anything to Ukraine.
      Unless muddy schemes, through resale.
      1. Eug
        Eug 18 October 2022 18: 05
        +1
        I remember that in the early 2000s, the delivery of either 4 or 8 anti-ship missiles or conventional missiles by Ukraine to Iran greatly strained the United States and eventually became one of the reasons for the US actions against the then President of Ukraine Kuchma. Thus, a serious "pain point" was indicated ...
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 18 October 2022 18: 34
          +4
          Not to Iran, but to Iraq, and not to anti-ship missiles, but to the Kolchuga passive reconnaissance complex, and the delivery was only hypothetical, there is no evidence that it took place in practice. But on this topic, even the SBU rustled.
          1. Eug
            Eug 19 October 2022 10: 31
            0
            There were also chain mail to Iraq. But then the striped ones were seriously strained by the turbine for the nuclear power plant in Iran (they forced the Kharkov Turbine - Turboatom) - to abandon the deal, paying a ridiculous "compensation" (1 million presidents reached the plant, how many they stuffed into their pockets along the way - who knows) and it seems like Ukraine then wanted to sell (in the dark) to Iran several Tu-22M (x) complete with X-22 ..
    6. Maz
      Maz 18 October 2022 19: 11
      -1
      Tuta received news that from October 30 in Europe, the hryvnia will not be exchanged for anything at all, even for yuan, so it definitely flies with Israeli air defense. For beautiful words, the Jews will not even look in their direction.
    7. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 18 October 2022 20: 47
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      And I see no reason

      formally apply to Tel Aviv

      If he turned to Jerusalem, maybe they would have listened to him, but the Tel Aviv city hall does not sell weapons.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 19 October 2022 01: 33
        +1
        Quote: And Us Rat
        If he turned to Jerusalem, maybe they would have listened to him, but the Tel Aviv city hall does not sell weapons.

        Of course they would listen. And they even wished good luck in the struggle for the independence of Nenko Ukraine. Maybe even fed a gala lunch or dinner. And iron domes, they would say, are not enough themselves in the light of the new threat of Iranian shahid mopeds.
        Quote: And Us Rat
        The Tel Aviv city hall does not sell weapons.
        good hi
    8. Maz
      Maz 18 October 2022 20: 58
      0
      Israel rejected Ukraine's request for a telephone conversation between the two countries' defense ministers, Benny Gantz and Alexei Reznikov, the Haaretz newspaper reported.

      Earlier, the Israeli Foreign Ministry said that the position of some officials on the supply of weapons to Ukraine is their private opinion. The Israeli government does not share it.

      Ukrainians seem to be born today!
      Benya, look at these idiots! These assholes want to get weapons from us for free? Even when I traded on Privoz, I did not meet a single such blockhead! If only one Ukrainian came up: Abrasha, cut off that kosher sausage for free! Everyone has known for a long time: a Jew on Privoz cries only in one case - when he gives change!
  2. Tusv
    Tusv 18 October 2022 17: 23
    +6
    Very interesting at the expense immediately. LCD production is contracted by the USA. To remove from a DB it hardly. Tea ain't no frightened european union
  3. Krivotykin
    Krivotykin 18 October 2022 17: 31
    +4
    The impudence of the Kyiv regime simply knows no bounds. Everyone owes them everything. But Israel will not give them air defense. First, it costs money. Second, it won't help. Thirdly, Medvedev warned. And there are many more reasons.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 18 October 2022 17: 36
      +6
      Quote: Krivotykin
      Thirdly, Medvedev warned.

      Well, if Medvedev himself, then for sure.
      He's the most important one. fellow
      1. sifgame
        sifgame 18 October 2022 18: 22
        +3
        No, not so, Medvedev is the most terrible and evil)
    2. man
      man 18 October 2022 17: 45
      +2
      The impudence of the Kyiv regime simply knows no bounds. Everyone owes them everything. But Israel will not give them air defense. First, it costs money. Second, it won't help. Thirdly, Medvedev warned
      How could you put the warning of the formidable Medvedev in a miserable third place?!!! am
      Move it immediately !!! ... to the fiftieth ... Otherwise, Israel may send Kuleba all its LCDs ... out of fright
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 18 October 2022 17: 47
      +1
      Quote: Krivotykin
      First, it costs money.

      It costs a lot of money, but it is by default. First, we need to. There, periodically and with enviable constancy, Scuds and Grads arrive. Now, if Uncle Sam gives back what was contracted, then probably yes
  4. free
    free 18 October 2022 17: 32
    +1
    Tel Aviv does not want to spoil relations with Moscow
    This is good news, do not interfere in our business with your supplies.
  5. Mouse
    Mouse 18 October 2022 17: 33
    +6
    Let them immediately ask for an iron basin .... and cover themselves ... with a basin ...
  6. iz odessy
    iz odessy 18 October 2022 17: 34
    +3
    to draw into your shit is the main international idea of ​​the country. And this is from the time of Yushchenko. And Foreign Minister Kuleba really set the horizon for the bottom of diplomacy
  7. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 18 October 2022 17: 35
    +1
    I won't be surprised at anything! Only Israel sits well on two chairs (only Israel can do this), and is unlikely to want to spoil relations with Moscow, but there is still Washington! Although it is not for Washington to bend Israel once again!
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 18 October 2022 21: 06
      0
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Washington can’t bend down Israel once again

      Yes, and the bender can get sick. The states have already learned their lesson, they will not step on a rake.
  8. EFIM LYUBIN
    EFIM LYUBIN 18 October 2022 17: 37
    0
    This is a Bandera with his chief of the Jewish Bandera (not to be confused with the Jews) Pan Ze will not get anything! That's for sure!!!
  9. Siberian 66
    Siberian 66 18 October 2022 17: 39
    +1
    It is necessary to talk with Israel behind the scenes, to explain on the fingers how this can end for Israel. Is the supply of air defense to Ukraine worth the increased military potential of the same Iran in terms of strike capabilities of aviation and air defense
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 18 October 2022 19: 23
      -2
      Quote: Sibiryak 66
      It is necessary to talk with Israel behind the scenes, to explain to fingershow it can end for Israel.

      Israel is not on the fingers, but in action, explains to Iran how this will end for him, not when, but yesterday and today, and if he trembles, then tomorrow.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 18 October 2022 21: 12
      -1
      Quote: Sibiryak 66
      explain on the fingers

      Israel does not understand fingering, it can caress Tehran with a thermonuclear "out of fright."
      Probably even the most frostbitten Islamist already knows that Israel reacts badly to threats or attempts to speak with it from a position of strength, inadequately, I would say, reacts, even the Yankees hammered this into their stupid heads.
      But no, there is always a smart guy...

  10. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 18 October 2022 17: 40
    +3
    On what such confidence is based, Kuleba did not explain, but recalled that he had experience of such appeals

    What is there to explain? The Sumerians know how to beg: aggressively, not letting them come to their senses, not letting them think or even breathe. Beggars pile on and start grabbing hands with cries of "give, give, give !!!" It takes a hell of a time to refuse...
    Gypsies at Vienna railway stations bite themselves out of envy at the begging abilities of the Ukroshumers.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 18 October 2022 18: 34
      0
      Quote: Peter_Koldunov
      Beggars lean in and start grabbing hands with cries of "give, give, give!!!"

      It reminds me when a gypsy starts to beg, and a bunch of gypsies grab you and yell - "Money come on, money come on!"
      If you don't, they can beat you. But if he gave a yell: "Well, you're a zhlobina, you gave a gold piece, you could back off more!"
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 18 October 2022 19: 30
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        It reminds me when a gypsy starts to beg, and a bunch of gypsies grab you and yell - "Money come on, money come on!"

        If you look at the tops, it looks exactly like this.
        But there are always roots.
        Everything that concerns Iran does not matter where it is, all the Israeli security services work there and there is absolutely no need to supply weapons. I hope you understand what I wrote to you.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 18 October 2022 21: 18
      +1
      Quote: Peter_Koldunov
      Gypsies at train stations

      A Jew has never been divorced yet. wassat
  11. Astra55
    Astra55 18 October 2022 17: 51
    +7
    Russia can easily put pressure on Israel. Iranian Barmaley in Syria, who "love" Israel very much, can easily find themselves under the umbrella of Russian air defense. And if they accidentally find a couple of Iskanders in the desert ....
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 18 October 2022 19: 18
      -1
      It is enough just to ban any financial transactions with Israel.
    2. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 18 October 2022 19: 33
      +1
      Quote: Astra55
      could easily be under the umbrella of Russian air defense. And if they accidentally find a couple of Iskanders in the desert ....

      This umbrella has been torn for a long timeת on the flag that you wantץ
      And you still didn’t know that they copied all the lizards into the empty AMAN AND MOSSAD.
    3. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 18 October 2022 21: 20
      0
      Quote: Astra55
      Russia can easily put pressure on Israel. Iranian Barmaley in Syria, who "love" Israel very much, can easily find themselves under the umbrella of Russian air defense. And if they accidentally find a couple of Iskanders in the desert ....

      And you are a dreamer. laughing
  12. ASM
    ASM 18 October 2022 17: 52
    +2
    Israel can give Air Defense only after the money for a new one arrives and this new one is manufactured. Otherwise, the Israelis will be defenseless. Do you remember how a few years ago Israel tearfully asked for money and rockets, because their stocks were knocked out.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 18 October 2022 20: 43
      +3
      Quote from A.S.M.
      Otherwise, the Israelis will be defenseless. Do you remember how a few years ago Israel tearfully asked for money and rockets, because their stocks were knocked out.

      Israel tearfully does not ask for anything - if there is not enough anti-missiles, then Gaza must be destroyed. If the United States does not then cover the Jews in the UN, then in the next elections not a single American Jew will support this party with money, and vice versa. And what president of the United States needs this? request
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 18 October 2022 18: 13
    +1
    Kuleba: Ukraine will turn to Israel about the "immediate" supply of air defense systems
    . The question, of course, is interesting.
    As folk wisdom says ... with the world on a thread ... from this beggar, everything will be plundered anyway.
  14. ximkim
    ximkim 18 October 2022 18: 14
    -3
    Well, Israel will supply weapons to Ukraine, so what?
    Medvedev's reminders suggest that Russia could make negative profits. And as always, someone needs to be blamed for this and they stand for a very long time on these accusations.
  15. opposite28
    opposite28 18 October 2022 18: 27
    0
    According to Kuleba, in the near future Ukraine will send a request to Israel for the supply of air defense systems or technologies, and "immediately." The Ukrainian minister is sure that he will not be refused in Tel Aviv. Kuleba did not explain what such confidence is based on, but recalled that he had experience of such appeals, it was he who turned to Europe and the United States with similar requests.
    Menorah Kuleba will not help. am
  16. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 18 October 2022 18: 27
    +1
    The Ukrainian minister is sure that he will not be refused in Tel Aviv. What such confidence is based on, Kuleba did not explain,

    Rudeness and promiscuity. Probably for this, he was not beaten with a belt as a child.
  17. Dimy4
    Dimy4 18 October 2022 18: 39
    +2
    Even if Israel sends systems or something else, they will rather pretend that they did not notice. This is how I think. Wait and see.
  18. Bingo
    Bingo 18 October 2022 18: 42
    -3
    One-two-three-four-five, we start sending.
    Let me explain, well, Israel will put this Leaky Colander. Well, they will make a VKS out of it (and they will make a VKS - this is not to intercept water pipes). And it will be like with Bayraktars, which sold very well BEFORE delivery to Ukraine. And now?
    1. yaglon
      yaglon 18 October 2022 19: 17
      +2
      Sales are going well. For 2022, deliveries of TB2 went to Turkmenistan, Morocco, Ethiopia, Kyrgyzstan, deliveries began to Pakistan, Djibouti, Burkina Faso, Rwanda, Togo, Niger. Deliveries are also planned for 2023 to Poland, Romania, Nigeria, and Iraq. Apart from Ukraine, of course. Deliveries of Akinci are announced to Azerbaijan, Kyrgyzstan, Pakistan.
    2. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 18 October 2022 21: 24
      -1
      Quote from Bingo
      Well, they will make a sieve out of it

      Question - at what cost?
      1. Bingo
        Bingo 18 October 2022 23: 09
        0
        Does he catch a target? Ah, "on a ballistic trajectory"? Ah, "at the top" counts?
        No! Colander - Leaky!
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 18 October 2022 23: 56
          -1
          Tired of explaining to amateurs. There are 2 types of missiles in the LCD. missile defense and air defense. Some are in yellow containers, others are in green. Green ones are air defense - they are more expensive, but they catch everything, both drones, and planes and helicopters. Tested, tested and working.
          1. Bingo
            Bingo 19 October 2022 07: 41
            0
            Quote: And Us Rat
            Tested, tested and working.

            The oil refinery, which burned down in the last batch during the very first attack, in which Colander did not hit any of the attacking targets, disagrees with you.
            Although I didn’t know about the fact that there are air defense missiles there. Attention, the question is: how is the selection of targets for ballistic and maneuvering implemented there? A fundamentally different type of tracking and, most importantly, detection should be. For low-flying calibers, for example.
            So the Colander will definitely be perforated, this is not a question.
            1. And Us Rat
              And Us Rat 19 October 2022 15: 25
              -3
              Quote from Bingo
              Refinery that burned down in the last batch

              Where? Whose? What kind of tales from the crypt? belay

              Quote from Bingo
              how is the selection of targets for ballistic and maneuvering implemented there?

              Silently. 3-D AFAR ELM-2084 MMR and powerful BIUS. Accompanies more than 1100 different targets, at a distance of up to 400 km, at a time.
  19. Ulan.1812
    Ulan.1812 18 October 2022 18: 44
    +1
    Yeah, and the key to the apartment where the money is
    Brazen, Svidomo beggars want to rob the whole world.
  20. Emergency
    Emergency 18 October 2022 19: 22
    +1
    Maybe take a cartoon? And still not expensive? bully
  21. Comrade
    Comrade 18 October 2022 19: 26
    0
    The Ukrainian minister came to the conclusion that the Ukrainian army urgently needs air defense systems and as many

    They don't really need anything.
    Let him read the reports of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. It says that more than half of the Russian missiles and armor were shot down. If so, then why do they need additional air defense systems?
  22. Diviz
    Diviz 18 October 2022 23: 07
    0
    Ukraine is a springboard for testing new weapons. So technology is advancing.
  23. ViktorX
    ViktorX 19 October 2022 13: 16
    0
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    In almost two years it will be 1/4 of the XNUMXst century, and this is not at all small

    A good Ukrainian proverb calls not to say "gop" prematurely.
    Let's see what will happen in 50 years (it will be in the XNUMXst century).
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin

    Today, Israel uses 70-80% desalinated sea water, and also sells water to Jordan.
    70% of waste water after cleaning is used in agriculture.
    And this is the Negev desert, strawberries all year round.

    So I'm not arguing. With appropriate investments, you can also have potatoes in Antarctica
    grow. The whole question is how much the final product will cost
    lose to competitors in the global market.
    It is in the world - in one's own market that competitors can be strangled with duties or
    direct import ban.
  24. ViktorX
    ViktorX 19 October 2022 19: 20
    0
    Quote: And Us Rat
    And I don't hide it.

    Then, excuse me, what are you doing here?
    After all, "our troops", "our country", "our people" are constantly mentioned in the news here.
    After all, it's not all yours.

    Quote: And Us Rat
    That is, you will kneel before the gopniks? There is such a thing as reputation. The gopniks bypass the tightly repulsed ones, who always give back by picking up rebar and bricks, the gopniks prefer softer prey.

    My actions - on circumstances. If their goal is my wallet, I will give it - life is more important.
    At a minimum, I will not be guided by the doctrine that prescribes in response to a slap in the face
    from a group of 10 gopniks, be sure to beat them all with rebar to death.
    In addition, any armature does not save from being stabbed in the back.

    Quote: And Us Rat
    Here Iran is trying from Syria, and therefore snips there regularly.

    Since Iran still exists, it means that the "military doctrine" still has borders ...

    Quote: And Us Rat
    Bringing to the point of absurdity is the method of a cheap demagogue.

    As the saying goes, "I can't convince you, so I immediately turn to insults"

    Quote: And Us Rat
    But genocide of the weak is not a solution, at least not in the eyes of Israel.

    We, too, could hit Ukraine with nuclear weapons and end the war in an hour, but we are not doing this.

    Quote: And Us Rat
    Israel is not a NATO country.

    I mean the following: any country that helps Ukraine with weapons may well
    face a similar attitude from Russia