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Following Germany, France asks the United States to “friendly” lower LNG prices

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Following Germany, France asks the United States to “friendly” lower LNG prices

The decisions taken by European politicians have practically ceased to correspond even to elementary logic. At first, the EU countries worked together and persistently to ensure that cheap Russian gas almost ceased to flow to Europe. All hope was that it could be replaced by LNG imports, primarily from the United States. Now that everything has already happened, European leaders are faced with a new problem that is by no means unexpected.


According to the French publication Le Figaro, the United States has indeed significantly increased LNG supplies to Europe: the share of American liquefied gas imports to the EU countries increased from 28% to 45% in the period from 2021 to 2022. But, unlike Russian gas, American raw materials cost Europeans many times more. Taking into account the worsening economic crisis in the eurozone countries, caused by the high cost of energy, the market prices for American LNG, even for the largest EU economies, have become unaffordable.

The German authorities were the first to protest about this. In early October, German Economy Minister Robert Habeck deplored the "astronomical" prices being charged by Germany's "friendly" countries, primarily the United States, for the supply of gas to compensate for the cuts in supplies from Russia.

Now it was the turn of the French to be indignant. French Economy Minister Bruno Le Maire on Wednesday asked the United States to supply "cheaper" liquefied natural gas at a time when "an energy crisis rages in Europe because of the war." The French minister said he expects the US to "get cheaper LNG through a long-term approach" - "in a friendly way."
At the same time, French President Emmanuel Macron called on EU countries for "solidarity" in order to "reduce gas and electricity prices" in Europe.

At the same time, narrow-minded European politicians do not take into account one very important point. More than 50% of PJSC Gazprom's shares are owned by the Russian state. Therefore, earlier, when agreeing on the terms of gas imports from Russia, European politicians could count on negotiations with the leadership of the Russian Federation. Now they (with a few exceptions for Serbia and Hungary) have safely buried such an opportunity for themselves.

The situation with the supply of American LNG is quite different. In the United States, private companies are engaged in production (almost none), purchase, processing and export of gas. There is not a single state-owned company in the US gas industry. Therefore, even if Joe Biden decides to help the Europeans and tries to somehow influence the pricing of LNG supplied to the Old World (which is unlikely), no one will listen to him. This is called the “market”, the main rule of which is to extract maximum profit.

In addition, purchased on the side, then processed gas delivered from another continent by sea tankers, by definition, cannot cost as much as blue fuel pumped through a gas pipeline.

So the complaints and entreaties of European politicians to lower the price of American gas will have no effect. Although, of course, there is a solution. It is increasingly voiced at the protests that overwhelm European countries: “Launch Nord Stream 2 (while there is still something left of it). But in order to achieve this, the inhabitants of Europe will first have to change inadequate politicians for more practical and independent of overseas masters.
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  1. al3x
    al3x 14 October 2022 12: 57
    +14
    Friendship is friendship, but tobacco is apart. They will still gnaw each other's throats for this LNG in their Europe, maybe they will go to war against their neighbor, as in the old, not forgotten times. Everyone knows how "friendly" they were during the corona pandemic. And there will definitely be no discount from the striped ones, only + in the price, as they decide on the striped exchanges, it will cost so much.
    1. credo
      credo 14 October 2022 13: 02
      +3
      Quote: al3x
      Friendship is friendship, but tobacco is apart. They will still bite each other's throats for this LNG.

      ...or they will steal from each other, as during covid, medicines and hygiene products. After all, it is known that there are no "closer and friendlier" countries on earth than the EU countries stop
      1. TANKa
        TANKa 14 October 2022 13: 10
        +2
        This is all to be expected! There are no patriots left in Europe, one collective mind, and then American!
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 14 October 2022 22: 19
          +1
          Quote: TANKa
          This is all to be expected! There are no patriots left in Europe, one collective mind, and then American!

          By no means.
          There are people there too, not just a herd.
          Here's a French cartoon
    2. marchcat
      marchcat 14 October 2022 13: 04
      +23
      The Europeans have one way out of this situation. It consists in the price ceiling for American LNG. With Russia, this is possible, but why is it impossible with the states. laughing
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 14 October 2022 15: 11
        +5
        I also immediately thought about setting a price ceiling.
        As Janet Yellen, head of the US Treasury Department, said, “a sufficient price for Russia would be a maximum oil price in the region of $60 per barrel.”
        Now let her "liver sausage" with a "wet frog" be told that the Americans are enough for 400 bucks per thousand cubic meters .... I think that even "sleepy Joe" will wake up and bulge his eyes. After all, not for that, his son died twice, the first time in Vietnam, and then in Iraq.
    3. ARIONkrsk
      ARIONkrsk 14 October 2022 13: 05
      +7
      Quote: al3x
      Friendship is friendship, but tobacco is apart. They will still gnaw each other's throats for this LNG in their Europe, maybe they will go to war against their neighbor, as in the old, not forgotten times. Everyone knows how "friendly" they were during the corona pandemic. And there will definitely be no discount from the striped ones, only + in the price, as they decide on the striped exchanges, it will cost so much.

      Let them gather and introduce a price ceiling for American gas laughing
      1. Azim77
        Azim77 14 October 2022 14: 49
        +1
        Haha. It seems that the United States did not count on such an ambush. It will be fun when they send and they will be offended ..
        1. ARIONkrsk
          ARIONkrsk 14 October 2022 15: 22
          0
          Quote: Azim77
          Haha. It seems that the United States did not count on such an ambush. It will be fun when they send and they will be offended ..

          So in this case, they secured themselves, undermined the gas pipeline, firmly planted Europe on their gas.
        2. PPD
          PPD 15 October 2022 11: 24
          0
          when they send and they are offended ..

          They won’t be offended, and if they are offended, then so, ..... slightly.
          From the series, well, it’s necessary, it’s necessary.
          Sausage (liver) with sausages is more visible wassat drinks
    4. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 14 October 2022 13: 06
      +1
      Interesting. Will business relations be friendly now? It's so easy to sit on your neck
    5. Silver99
      Silver99 14 October 2022 13: 10
      +8
      Is there friendship in the world of capitalism? There after all basic principle profit. Not for that, the United States destroyed the energy system of Europe, what would they do with discounts.
  2. Dormidosha
    Dormidosha 14 October 2022 13: 01
    +5
    Yeah right now..!!! As they say, run, hair back !!!!
    The whole scheme was for this and conceived ..!
    Let them reap what the European motherfuckers have sown!!!!
    Maybe after that they will understand something, although ...
    1. laws70
      laws70 14 October 2022 13: 51
      0
      Maybe after that they will understand something, although ...

      They won’t understand, since they still haven’t understood that for the US ruling elite they are all the same Indians as Zelensky ..
  3. Two
    Two 14 October 2022 13: 03
    +1
    hi It's a sin to bargain for "molecules of freedom"! Or is the "elder brother" no longer even a brother at all?
  4. NDR-791
    NDR-791 14 October 2022 13: 03
    +2
    Germany, France... Only England is not enough for a complete set. Well, the rest will follow right away. And kaaak they will accept a sanction - "And set a price ceiling for Amer's LNG !!!". This is an answer, but Bidon didn’t understand - “What are we for ???”
    1. Uprun
      Uprun 14 October 2022 13: 07
      +1
      Withdrew from the tongue ..............
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 14 October 2022 13: 09
        0
        Quote from uprun
        Withdrew from the tongue ..............

        It asked for hi
        1. Uprun
          Uprun 14 October 2022 13: 26
          0
          And why is Ursulka silent ..... or just quietly okrinevaet ....
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 14 October 2022 13: 30
            0
            Quote from uprun
            Why is Ursula silent?

            And she has not yet received a command from Amerihi, and such a command will not be received from there.
  5. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 October 2022 13: 04
    0
    Following Germany, France asks the United States to “friendly” lower LNG prices
    In general, banderlogs have lost their fear. Soon the prices in the US will want. Flog them or something, and then others will start to whine ... It is said: "Bolivar can not stand two!" request
  6. Arkadich
    Arkadich 14 October 2022 13: 04
    +3
    Whoever asks will be rewarded. The first time the Americans shod Europe after the First World War, the second time they climbed well after the Second World War, but now these "philanthropists" are turned inside out.
  7. Cat Alexandrovich
    Cat Alexandrovich 14 October 2022 13: 06
    +3
    Even if a miracle suddenly happens and our gas goes through the last pipeline of the joint venture, why would it be cheaper? EU rules require it to be sold at market (spot) prices!
  8. Leshak
    Leshak 14 October 2022 13: 06
    +3
    Following Germany, France asks the United States to “friendly” lower LNG prices
    Oh, naive ... Or stupid all the same ?! recourse The Americans "friendly" fucked them in a rude way, and Europe is waiting for discounts. theater of the absurd. wassat
    1. isv000
      isv000 14 October 2022 14: 27
      0
      Quote: Leshak
      Oh, naive ... Or stupid all the same ?! The Americans "friendly" fucked them in a rude way, and Europe is waiting for discounts. theater of the absurd.

      This is tantamount to asking a pimp to take off less money ...
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 14 October 2022 13: 07
    +3
    How much cheaper do they want in the EU for $750 per 1000 cubic meters? So for $751 they buy all the gas of the Southeast Asian countries at the root. Solidarity Norway did not agree.
  10. ZIF122
    ZIF122 14 October 2022 13: 08
    0
    Not for that, the United States brewed all this so that now it would be cheap to sell gas to Europe! As for the change of governments in European countries, the Americans will never allow politicians loyal to Russia to come to power in these countries!
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 14 October 2022 13: 44
      +3
      We don't need their loyalty. It is necessary that such politicians come who would care about the interests of their own countries and peoples, and not about American ones. We need new Orbans in Germany, France, the Czech Republic, Austria and others. It will be possible to build relations with people like Orban, if not friendly, but at least equal.
      1. Alexander Salenko
        Alexander Salenko 14 October 2022 14: 16
        0
        I give a standing ovation, I tried to drum the same thing into the Ukrainian patriots, that what you are trying to achieve is the destruction of your own country, well, the Europeans have not gone far.
  11. Former soldier
    Former soldier 14 October 2022 13: 15
    +1
    It is increasingly voiced at the protests that overwhelm European countries: “Launch Nord Stream 2 (while there is still something left of it).

    Apparently, the one who gave the command to blow up the gas pipeline, having put an X to his nose, decided to leave the fourth pipe "just in case a fireman."
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 October 2022 13: 15
    +3
    Following Germany, France asks the United States to “friendly” lower LNG prices
    Ha, ha, and again, ha, ha. The Americans frankly and cynically lowered you by showing you your place under the rack, and now they will easily raise the price of their LNG. They tried to please the "omnipotent" America, and here they pleased to the fullest. Now there is no cheap Russian gas, no opportunities for their economy, but there is also a drop in living standards ahead. But you have "European solidarity" and with an excess of Russophobia. Enjoy.
    1. laws70
      laws70 14 October 2022 13: 29
      0
      The Americans frankly and cynically lowered you by showing you your place under the rack, and now they will easily raise the price of their LNG.

      It remains to bang the Turkish Stream and the GTS of Ukraine (they will blow it up themselves if the owner orders) and EVERYTHING: you can raise the price of LNG indefinitely. Until the European Union declares its bankruptcy. Then it is possible to introduce external management and withdraw all assets in the US for LNG payment debts. After that, several generations of people from the countries of the former European Union will plow for their uncle from across the ocean. They will quickly be explained that it is even more profitable for them - they will not have to feed the "layer" in the form of their politicians. But the main thing is “get Putin!”.
  13. YanniKounnar
    YanniKounnar 14 October 2022 13: 20
    0
    Le GNL Americain est trop cher ?
    L'UE n'a qu'à se réunir et voter un prix "obligé" de vente de leur GGNL Américians...Ah ils ne peuvent faire cela qu'avec le pétrole Russe ?
    Auraient ils un probleme d'hémiplegie? tongue

    Is American LNG Too Expensive?
    The EU only needs to get together and vote for a "mandatory" selling price for their American GGNL... Can they only do this with Russian oil?
    Do they have problems with hemiplegia? tongue
  14. EFIM LYUBIN
    EFIM LYUBIN 14 October 2022 13: 22
    +4
    "Friendly" in business? Ha ha ha! These idiots like Macron-Scholz have not yet understood that the war in the Ukroreich is needed for the collapse and impoverishment of the main financial and industrial competitor of the United States in the world market - the EEC and at the same time all other Europeans! The stupid people in Washington still haven't realized that impoverished Europe won't be able to practically buy anything from the USA! The entire Western World is waiting for a financial and industrial collapse more terrible than the Great Depression of 1929!
    1. isv000
      isv000 14 October 2022 14: 23
      0
      Quote: EFIM LYUBIN
      The entire Western World is waiting for a financial and industrial collapse worse than the Great Depression of 1929!

      The bigger the closet, the bigger the noise!
  15. Horon
    Horon 14 October 2022 13: 28
    +2
    But in order to achieve this, the inhabitants of Europe will first have to change inadequate politicians for more practical and independent of overseas masters.

    Now, for a start, it needs to be repaired, and this is expensive and not fast, since everyone who can do it quickly is afraid of sanctions, and those who can do it slowly have received a ban on activities in Europe. So no options now. For general happiness, it remains to gouge the remaining branches and taste the clean air of democracy and a green economy.
    Soon, Americans will start shipping their waste to Europe as they would to Africa, and Africa is indeed a green continent in terms of CO2.
    wassat
  16. Boniface
    Boniface 14 October 2022 13: 38
    0


    The ice has broken. Such news will flash more often exponentially. After 80 years, Europe again fell into the trap of the United States.
  17. Uprun
    Uprun 14 October 2022 13: 38
    +3
    If you turn 180 degrees in the geyropa and again at the feet of the king - pipes to the mainland of Russia at the expense of their metal, which they wanted to spend on weapons for the outskirts ...., lifting of sanctions, payment in rubles, there is no other way. Fantasies? Who knows what will happen in a couple of years...
  18. Boycott
    Boycott 14 October 2022 13: 50
    0
    These are all the results of the degradation of education. About 150 years ago it was said that the school teacher won the war. Now he is losing the world.
  19. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 14 October 2022 13: 50
    +1
    No, no "Northern Streams" to Europe - as long as they support Ukroreich!
  20. fiv
    fiv 14 October 2022 13: 57
    +1
    In a friendly way, they will only be awarded if .. By God, until they united, they could afford much more than they do now.
    1. isv000
      isv000 14 October 2022 14: 21
      +1
      Quote: fiv
      In a friendly way, they will only be awarded if .. By God, until they united, they could afford much more than they do now.

      That’s why they were driven to the collective farm, it’s more convenient to milk them ...
  21. uav80
    uav80 14 October 2022 14: 06
    +1
    The EU just needs to pass a law on the price ceiling for American gas and that's it ...
  22. Ros 56
    Ros 56 14 October 2022 14: 06
    +2
    We buy fried corn, sit in a comfortable chair and watch the thriller series Geyropa and LNG until spring.
  23. isv000
    isv000 14 October 2022 14: 20
    0
    Following Germany, France asks the United States to “friendly” lower LNG prices

    bully Found a friend! This spine will shake by the legs, shake out five gold coins, and take off the jacket ... Such friends - for ... ear and to the museum!
  24. uav80
    uav80 14 October 2022 14: 21
    0


    What's the difference between the Titanic and the European Union...?
    When the Titanic sank, it still had electricity...!
  25. Tor Vic
    Tor Vic 14 October 2022 14: 34
    0
    the EU needs to introduce a price ceiling for liquefied natural gas.
  26. rocket757
    rocket757 14 October 2022 14: 43
    0
    Following Germany, France asks the United States to “friendly” lower LNG prices
    . BEAUTIFUL, MALASY, minke whales, of course. Keep it up ... gay European for me I am soft, sensitive!
  27. 7 poplar
    7 poplar 14 October 2022 14: 43
    0
    "in a friendly way" can only raise, gentlemen French. Nothing personal just business! Oh yes, Allies and friends, didn’t you have enough with submarines ??????
  28. Voronezh
    Voronezh 14 October 2022 14: 46
    0
    Fuck them all instead of gas and SP2. Let them continue to go to demonstrations. Bolivar cannot stand two .... But unfortunately, as always, we are ready to fulfill our obligations ..... despite the death of our people from NATO weapons.
  29. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 14 October 2022 15: 59
    +1
    The efficiency of gas is one and a half times less, and the cost is three times higher. Well done Europe! Overcame as best I could :)
    Even if American businessmen throw off fifty dollars (which is unlikely), you will pay not 1500, but 1450 for harmful low-combustible shale ... instead of paying 400 for Russian natural gas, which is much warmer and more environmentally friendly!
    Absolutely brilliant!
  30. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 14 October 2022 16: 09
    +2
    Watch and be amazed! Did they impose sanctions against us or did we?
  31. JD1979
    JD1979 14 October 2022 16: 55
    0
    It can be seen that someone has a memory of 2 bytes ... and that one is defective. Last winter, not a single tanker from the US turned into the EU while prices there were lower than in Asia.
  32. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 14 October 2022 17: 09
    0
    France asks the United States to 'friendly' cut LNG prices

    Across the sea, a calf (LNG) is a polushka (1/4 kopeck), and a ruble is transported.
    Nothing personal just business.
  33. ovod84
    ovod84 14 October 2022 17: 25
    +1
    competitors have been removed, now you can not reduce prices. The Yankees are not fools