Saab ARTHUR counter-battery radars in Ukraine

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Saab ARTHUR counter-battery radars in Ukraine
ARTHUR radar of Ukrainian formations in a camouflaged position. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine


Foreign countries hand over to the Ukrainian regime not only weapon, but also radio systems for various purposes. In particular, up to several dozen counter-battery radars were shipped this year alone. Recently it became known that Swedish-made ARTHUR radars hit Ukraine. Where and in what quantity they arrived is not yet known. However, these stations are already suffering losses.



The secret becomes clear


Swedish-designed ARTHUR counter-battery radars are in service with several foreign countries. None of them has so far officially declared their readiness to transfer such equipment to Ukraine. However, this decision was nevertheless made and carried out in an atmosphere of secrecy. Not later than August-September, one of the operators seized several radar stations from their own units and sent them to the Kyiv regime.

The delivery could not be kept secret. The Russian army found out about the new radar stations - and took the necessary measures. On September 24, our Ministry of Defense reported that in the area of ​​the settlement. Mikhailovo-Zavodskoye (Dnepropetrovsk region) was destroyed by the counter-battery radar "Arthur". She was identified as Norwegian. The defeat of other stations has not yet been reported.

On October 10, reports appeared on Ukrainian resources about the appearance of a foreign radar at the disposal of one of the artillery reconnaissance units. It was alleged that this is the ARTHUR station in the MAMBA version, which is in service with the British Army. The number of such equipment, its distribution between departments, information on operation, etc. are not given.

The message was accompanied by a video showing the movement of a self-propelled radar through the terrain, deployment to positions and imitation of combat work. The equipment is equipped with camouflage nets; for greater safety, it is placed in natural shelters.


MAMBA radar station of the British army in Iraq, 2004. Photo by the UK Ministry of Defense

On October 12, the Norwegian edition of TU published different information. It claims that the ARTHUR radar came to Ukraine from Norway. In addition, TU discloses the details of the deliveries. So, three self-propelled stations were transferred. The first ones were sent to the Kyiv regime in the summer.

Source of help


According to the latest reports from various countries, the Arthur radar could have come to Ukraine from the UK or Norway. However, there is another version that indicates the involvement of a third country. The real supplier of equipment could be Sweden - the manufacturing country and one of the starting customers.

Blogger Andrej Kraft from LiveJournal drew attention to the appearance and configuration of vehicles in service with different countries. British Army MAMBA stations have several design features. In particular, safety arcs are installed on the sides of the windshield. The same or similar parts are available on the equipment of almost all countries, incl. Norway.

Radars seen in Ukraine do not have protection in front of the windshield. There are no arcs at the stations operated by the Swedish army. There are other differences as well. In this regard, the blogger suggests that Sweden actually transferred the ARTHUR stations. Why this episode of assistance was decided to be classified is unclear. Perhaps the Swedish leadership is afraid to openly weaken its own army, which already has a lot of problems.

"Radar for hunting artillery"


The counter-battery radar ARTHUR (Artillery Hunting Radar) was developed in the early nineties by the Swedish company Eriksson Microwave Systems (now a branch of the Saab concern). The customers were the land forces of Sweden and Norway, who wanted to get a modern locator for detecting enemy artillery positions and adjusting the fire of their guns.


Norwegian station ARTHUR. Photo by the Norwegian Ministry of Defense

The new radar entered service with the Swedish and Norwegian armies in 1994. Due to the limited size of artillery, orders were minimal, and rearmament of the two countries did not take long. At the same time, Eriksson began to take orders for export deliveries. Until the end of the 10s, ARTHUR stations of various versions were purchased by XNUMX foreign countries.

As production continued, modernization of the original product was carried out. By improving or replacing the equipment, all the main characteristics were increased. So, the basic version of the ARTHUR Mod A radar could detect guns at a distance of no more than 15 km, and in the Mod C project this parameter was increased to 30-31 km.

Great Britain became one of the main customers of the radar. She purchased ARTHUR Mod B products and demanded that they be modified. Such radars entered service under the name MAMBA (Mobile Artillery Monitoring Battlefield Asset). South Korea has become another major customer. By the middle of the 20s, it had purchased at least 25-XNUMX stations.

Not so long ago, Ukraine became another operator. At the same time, for obvious reasons, she did not order new equipment. One of the foreign countries gave her their used stations in order to help. If it was Norway or Sweden, then the three transmitted radars belong to the very first modifications and are distinguished by limited characteristics and great age with all the attendant problems. In addition, one of the "Arthur" has already been destroyed by the Russian army.

Struggles and adjustment


ARTHUR / MAMBA is a self-propelled counter-battery radar. The station only operates from the spot after a brief deployment and is manned by a crew of four. It is possible to spot the positions of foreign artillery and adjust your own fire.

Initially, the radar was mounted on a two-link articulated transporter Bv 206; radio equipment is located in the rear case. Later, a container version of the station was developed, suitable for installation on any suitable truck. In both cases, high mobility is ensured on different routes and terrains.


"Arthur" of the Swedish ground forces. Photo by the Swedish Ministry of Defense

The station operates in the C-band and is equipped with a passive phased array with electronic scanning. The primary data is processed by the onboard computer system, after which information about the targets is issued to the command post or other consumers. Radars can work independently or as part of a division with the distribution of tasks.

Two modes of operation are provided. At the first station, the station detects shells and missiles flying from the enemy, determines their routes and calculates the starting point. The data goes to fire weapons for a retaliatory strike. In the second mode, the receding ammunition of their guns is tracked and their points of impact are calculated. This information is used to adjust the fire.

The first modification of ARTHUR Mod A could detect the firing positions of enemy guns or correct the fire of their howitzers at ranges up to 20 km. The positions of 120-mm mortars were spotted from 35 km. In the future, according to the results of modernization, the range and accuracy of detection were constantly growing.

The current modification Mod C detects guns and howitzers from 30-31 km and mortars from 55 km. The upgraded radars now have the ability to detect rockets; such targets are tracked from a distance of 50-60 km. The station of the latest version processes up to 100 objects per minute. It is reported on the development of the next modification Mod D, again characterized by increased range and speed.

Quantity and benefits


Thus, in recent weeks or months, Ukraine has received several counter-battery radars of a new type for it. At the same time, the supply of foreign ARTHUR products is again not without problems, and the effect of such equipment is unlikely to be tangible. Moreover, it has already begun to be destroyed.


ARTHUR in container design on a truck chassis. Photo by the Italian Ministry of Defense

First of all, again there is a problem of quantity. If the data of the Norwegian press correspond to reality, then only three stations have been delivered. This equipment will only be enough to cover certain areas, and the destruction of one of the stations further reduces this "potential".

Apparently, the "Arthurs" were transferred by Sweden, and this is one of the old modifications. Radar versions of Mod A / B have a limited detection range and speed. This means that part of the guns or MLRS of the Russian army simply cannot be detected. At the same time, massive shelling will overload the station and will not allow it to identify all firing positions and issue target designation.

Older versions of the locator are not highly resistant to interference. In addition, the enemy, represented by the Russian army, can detect such stations and hit them - which is already confirmed by practice. One "Arthur" has already been put out of action, and the destruction of the two remaining is now only a matter of time.

familiar story


The observed situation around foreign ARTHUR radars as a whole looks familiar. Foreign partners again handed over to Ukraine a small amount of non-new equipment with an exhausted resource. It is obvious that such help will not give any real benefit. Moreover, the received stations have already begun to knock out.

It should be noted that this time the foreign partners and the Kyiv regime tried to hide the supply of equipment to the last. However, the Russian army learned about it in time and began to take appropriate measures. And now the prospects for the current situation are clear. Foreign radar stations will not affect the course of battles and will be destroyed.
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  1. +21
    14 October 2022 06: 20
    I am pleased with your enthusiasm. Either the supply of weapons does not have an effect on you, and the RA for some reason began to retreat, then the guns do not pose a threat, although even a hunting rifle easily kills a person. Now this. Any supply of weapons is a problem.
    1. +15
      14 October 2022 08: 07
      Quote: Lykases1
      I am pleased with your enthusiasm.

      this is not enthusiasm - this is disrespect for readers: the VO publication is not "youth technology"
      1. +13
        14 October 2022 08: 55
        Articles from the "weapons" section began to scroll through to the author at the opening, if I see the signature "Ryabov", then I don't read it, I'm on the nerves.
        1. +8
          14 October 2022 10: 38
          Quote: Zufei
          He sees cannon artillery from a distance of 20-25 km with a CEP of 0.35% of the range (i.e. ~ 70 meters at a distance of 20 km). 120th mortars - up to 40 kilometers.

          An article from the category - "Support Konashenkov - We will win in any case (and losses are always acceptable)"! So it turns out reading like this!
      2. +1
        15 October 2022 21: 37
        You know, the Technique for Youth magazine, and especially its individual supplements, produced material of a much higher quality than what I just read.
    2. -3
      14 October 2022 16: 01
      In Russia there is an article "On fakes". And the Law is the same as Drawbar. We must be careful that it would not suddenly turn out that you praised the Armed Forces of Ukraine or Ukraine.
      1. 0
        14 October 2022 18: 00
        Quote: Covid
        And the Law is the same as Drawbar. We must be careful that it would not suddenly turn out that you praised the Armed Forces of Ukraine or Ukraine.

        I am happy to read:
        1. Where exactly in the article is there a rule on the prohibition "to praise the Armed Forces of Ukraine and/or Ukraine".
        2. Judicial practice on bringing to responsibility for "praising the Armed Forces of Ukraine and/or Ukraine".

        PS: Of course, I will not see evidence for this statement :)
        1. -2
          14 October 2022 18: 26
          Quote: Blackgrifon
          1. Where exactly in the article is there a rule on the prohibition "to praise the Armed Forces of Ukraine and/or Ukraine".
          2. Judicial practice on bringing to responsibility for "praising the Armed Forces of Ukraine and/or Ukraine"

          I wrote about the Russian Federation, not about the article.
          Federal Law No. 4-FZ of 2022 March 32 “On Amendments to the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation and Articles 31 and 151 of the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation” (known in the media as the “Fake Law” or “Law on Military Censorship”) - a federal law establishing criminal liability for the dissemination of knowingly false information about the use of the RF Armed Forces, as well as for public actions aimed at discrediting the Russian army and the actions of state bodies abroad[⇨]. The law was submitted for consideration to the State Duma in May 2018 and after the first reading was sent for revision, after which it was not discussed. In March 2022, against the backdrop of anti-war protests in Russia after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, it was unanimously adopted by State Duma deputies in two days, considered at a meeting of the Federation Council, signed by the president and published[⇨].
          1. +1
            14 October 2022 19: 25
            I know what you wrote about and I ask you to name a specific article of this law and the Criminal Code, where it is forbidden to "praise the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Ukraine." Beg :)
            1. -1
              14 October 2022 19: 34
              You are not reading carefully. This is in the term "drawbar")) Or you show me where, who and when in the Russian Federation from officials praised the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
              1. +1
                14 October 2022 19: 46
                Quote: Covid
                In Russia there is an article "On fakes". And the Law is the same as Drawbar. We must be careful that it would not suddenly turn out that you praised the Armed Forces of Ukraine or Ukraine.

                Do not play around, sir :) you, I quote, said that "The law is the same as the Drawbar. You have to be careful that it suddenly turns out that you praised the Armed Forces of Ukraine or Ukraine."

                When I asked to name an article with such a ban or give examples from judicial practice, they began to talk about the law "On fakes". And they never submitted for review the article WHERE EXACTLY IN THE LAW it is forbidden to "praise the Armed Forces of Ukraine" and COULD NOT cite a single example of judicial practice.

                Now you start talking about the "drawbar" and try to answer a question with a question.

                So will there be a direct answer or will we continue to play around? :)
            2. +1
              15 October 2022 03: 30
              Of course, it doesn't say that. But there are problems for listening/voicing Ukrainian songs. Although, so far, not ubiquitous. Not to mention the fact that, in accordance with another equally significant law, they even tried to attract for shots from famous Moments.
              For there is not only law, but also law enforcement practice. Sometimes...peculiar
              1. -1
                15 October 2022 10: 49
                Quote: frog
                But there are problems for listening/voicing Ukrainian songs.

                Dmitry, to be precise, for listening to songs with pro-Ukrainian content and directly related to various radical formations 404. Actually, SUPPORTING Ukraine on the territory of Russia should be punished and sometimes (very rarely) even punished.

                But after all, this comrade did not broadcast about this. He's talking about "can not be praised" and did not give examples of practice, nor the rule of law.
                1. 0
                  15 October 2022 13: 08
                  I can be wrong, because. from memory, but still one of the songs sounds in the movie "Only old people go to yuoy". Should we ban the movie too? In the rather ideological and sometimes funny USSR, Wagner and his music were not banned ....
                  And yet, regardless of "this comrade", we are talking about law enforcement practice. Purely IMHO, which depends on the character, and not on the law. We look at the tag "partial mobilization" and "have fun" .... Not to mention the fact that there are questions about this law, more precisely, the peculiarities of its formulation and the actions of various characters ....
                  CHSH, at the same time, in no way discredit either the Russian Federation or the Armed Forces thereof, there is no desire feel . But there are questions to individual characters and the mentioned practice. But asking them .... is not useful lol and here and not only here ..... Alas .....
                  1. +1
                    15 October 2022 19: 25
                    Quote: frog
                    But there are questions to individual characters and the mentioned practice. But asking them .... is not useful

                    That's for sure. An example of the recent situation with Rybar and Vargonzo is indicative.
    3. 0
      18 October 2022 15: 25
      Quote: Lykases1
      Any supply of weapons is a problem.


      If the radar works, then he and radiates.
      And if it radiates scuttle and destroy. Further, specialists in REB and the detection of enemy radio systems for various purposes work.

      Unfortunately, all sorts of deliveries continue without interruption. From cartridges, RPGs and ATGMs to expensive weapons systems themselves, including air defense systems, UAVs, etc.

      We must actively work to stop these deliveries and their destruction.

      If you burned only 1, only the first plane that substituted weapons at the Kyiv airfield, with the help of the OTRK or the KR, even during its landing, now the entire NWO will not develop in this direction.

      And all sorts of excuses that "you don't need to shoot down NATO aircraft, TMV will start" are not relevant, for the fact that a plane that has already landed in a war zone and delivers weapons to the front has already become part of this conflict.



      And how such is legitimate target.
  2. +4
    14 October 2022 06: 49
    He sees cannon artillery from a distance of 20-25 km with a CEP of 0.35% of the range (i.e. ~ 70 meters at a distance of 20 km). 120th mortars - up to 40 kilometers.
    1. 0
      15 October 2022 21: 42
      Please explain how it is possible to see cannon artillery with the help of a radar, if by it we mean the main caliber of 152-155 mm for today, to see at 20-25 km, and 120-mm mortars at 40?
      And the launch of a tactical missile, with this logic, is the radar capable of detecting no further than 5 km?
  3. +11
    14 October 2022 10: 12
    I don’t understand why the forum users demand the neutralization of the transport logistics of the country? After all, Western assistance is a trifle, according to the optimism of the author. Just think, our calculation will be cut after a few shots, the main thing is that we will win, no matter what the losses.
    1. -1
      15 October 2022 09: 52
      It is not only foreign equipment and goods that move along the highways.
  4. 0
    14 October 2022 10: 47
    Interestingly, can PRR work on these radars?
  5. +1
    14 October 2022 11: 06
    The crews were also handed over to Ukraine. I don’t believe in the ability to learn how to work on such equipment in weekly courses
    1. +2
      14 October 2022 19: 47
      It is impossible to learn, but it is possible to retrain the calculation from another type of radar. For two weeks.
    2. +4
      14 October 2022 20: 21
      Quote: APASUS
      for weekly courses

      Blitzkrieg is coming soon for 8 months.
  6. fiv
    0
    14 October 2022 13: 00
    In the third photo in the background of the BMP-2, or did it seem to me?
    1. +1
      14 October 2022 20: 21
      Quote: fiv
      and in the background BMP-2

      Possibly Finnish or Czech
  7. +1
    14 October 2022 13: 35
    The article is interesting. Three pieces to the front do not make the weather. Problems will be delivered - that's why ours became more active immediately. And if they don’t cut off the supply of weapons, then no matter what they supply at least 82 mm mortars, it won’t seem enough ...
  8. +4
    14 October 2022 15: 25
    You can't engage in hatred. Given that artillery is showing increasing importance on the battlefield, the means of dealing with it should not be underestimated.
  9. +2
    14 October 2022 16: 04
    I categorically disagree with the author, firstly, the development of such useful equipment will make it possible to supply other countries with their systems, including even other modifications from the presence of the armies of these countries, and they themselves will again buy from the Swedes or an analogue, in general, a dangerous complex will need to be detected and destroyed and it's not a very easy job.
  10. +7
    14 October 2022 16: 54
    It seems that Ryabov writes articles according to the template:

    "Recently it has been reported that (insert country name) provided to the Kyiv regime (insert weapon name).
    ...
    Paste weapon specifications
    ...
    However, as practice shows, (insert weapon name) not popular in the market. By now (insert country names) abandoned these products, but they found a new owner.
    ...
    Paste weapon flaws
    ...
    Thus, foreign partners again handed over to Ukraine obsolete weapons with limited capabilities, depleted resources and in insufficient quantities.
    It is obvious that such assistance will not give any real benefit, and the results of its application will not justify hopes.

    (c) Author: Ryabov Kirill
    1. +1
      15 October 2022 21: 48
      One more obligatory subparagraph:
      "But our armed forces have already destroyed some of the delivered equipment, so they have no chance." (A link to the source is optional and even harmful, so as not to spoil the general style of the articles).
  11. Ed
    -4
    14 October 2022 17: 58
    This shows how geyropa loves us and wants health. No one will grieve if Russia disappears.
  12. +1
    15 October 2022 01: 54
    Again cheers patriotic completion - will be destroyed.
    But I am concerned about a completely different question: who manages and maintains this entire zoo of Western equipment in Ukraine? I am completely convinced that this is not done by Ukrainian military personnel, but by NATO specialists who arrived with the equipment. So they must be either captured or identified in order to present evidence of the acceptance of the interference of Nat structures in the war. and threaten retaliation
  13. 0
    15 October 2022 21: 20
    ARTHUR radar of Ukrainian formations in a camouflaged position. Photo by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine

    On a disguised??? belay Maybe only "slightly engineered"?
  14. 0
    15 October 2022 21: 32
    The first modification of ARTHUR Mod A could detect the firing positions of enemy guns or correct the fire of their howitzers at ranges up to 20 km. The positions of 120-mm mortars were spotted from 35 km.

    What is it like? Did they manage to detect an object with a significantly lower RCS at a much greater distance?
    I would like some clarification... what
  15. +1
    15 October 2022 21: 58
    The station operates in the C-band and is equipped with a passive phased array with electronic scanning.

    I understand that the main source of knowledge for modern publicists is Wikipedia ), but, probably, I wanted a little more from the authors on "VO".
    The passive radar method generally assumes the presence of an aircraft emitting radio waves as an object of search, be it an aircraft, an UAV or a high-precision munition with an active radar seeker. What radio waves does a 120-mm mine or a 155-mm high-explosive fragmentation projectile emit in flight and what is the physics of their detection of a "passive headlamp" can anyone explain?
    1. 0
      31 December 2022 10: 29
      Quote: Bogalex
      the main source of knowledge for modern publicists is Wikipedia

      And logic says, if a battery is a certain accumulation of guns in one place, naturally it is easier for the enemy to hit such a basket with eggs collected in one place, if the guns are located at a distance that is a multiple of the dispersion diameter of enemy shells, then it turns out there is no battery, but there is no battery and there is no counter-battery fight . Yes, of course, the ARTHUR radar is capable of determining the location of the gun along the projectile trajectory (it’s interesting with what accuracy, but it’s not possible to hit a single target at a distance of 20 km with an unguided projectile, and if the front line is static, then you can equip deep caponiers, and not change position after each shot.

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