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Joint military group in Belarus. The first real statement of the Union State

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Joint military group in Belarus. The first real statement of the Union State

Have you ever thought about the future? Not about the future that will come when our distant descendants live. I'm talking about the future coming soon enough. About the time when we will “stand at the walls of Berlin”, and the modern “Hitler” will rush about in his bunker somewhere in Vinnitsa in search of at least some kind of exit or run away to some modern “Argentina”. About the modern "April 1945".


I don't think anyone doubts our victory in Ukraine. Even the Ukrainians themselves do not doubt it. Judging by what is leaking to the press, even their president and government have no hope for their own strength. All hopes for the help of the global West. Expectations and understanding that very soon this West will not care about Ukraine at all.

The US election is less than a month away. And the result of these elections is not yet clear. The Democrats, taught by the bitter experience of the presidential elections, will definitely take into account the mistakes of the past, and the Republicans will shamelessly use the administrative resource. In Europe, voices about the change of governments and presidents are being heard louder and louder. Winter hasn't started yet...

History, as the only science of the future, predicts the next "cutting the carcass" of the loser. Any hunt ends with this. Any war results in losses on one side and gains on the other. Territories, population, economy, culture and everything else. Moreover, not always only the winners take part in the carcass division. In the euphoria of victory, no one pays attention to the scavengers. And they tear the flesh of the vanquished even more than the victor.

The unenviable fate of the former large European country


Does anyone today doubt that some countries today dream of returning their territories that were lost after the Second World War? Someone will doubt that Poland is sleeping and sees Galicia in its composition? I do not think that Romania has forgotten about Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina. Yes, and the Hungarians remember about Transcarpathian Rus.

And as it turned out recently, after the speech of President Lukashenko, the Belarusians also did not forget about the territories they once lost. It's stupid to even think about Russia. We not only remember, but actually return our own. We can already say that the process of disintegration of Ukraine has been launched.

Even when the Ukrainian people chose a clown instead of the presumptuous oligarch Poroshenko without any program and vision for the future of Ukraine, we wrote about the possibility of just such a finale. But then the Ukrainians very often used in their comments the Russian proverb about horses that cannot be changed at the crossing. I am not against folk wisdom, but I think that the saying should be slightly expanded. Horses are not changed at the crossing, but donkeys can be changed.

A quite reasonable question arises as to how, for example, Poland can regain Lviv. The answer is simple enough. Exactly the same as we returned the Donbass. Either the conclusion of an agreement with Zelensky on the transfer of these territories under the protection of Poland, or the decision of the leadership of the Lviv region on the formation of their own state and the conclusion of relevant agreements.

Technically, this is quite simple, given the fact that a fairly large number of officials already have Polish citizenship or a Pole's card. Hungarians and Romanians can do the same. Thus, we get three NATO countries, which, in the hope of the power of the alliance and the notorious 5th article of the Treaty, will tear their piece from Ukraine.

However, in my opinion, confidence in their own strength and security of these states was rather strongly shaken by Russian shelling of Ukraine's infrastructure. It turned out that the vaunted Western missile defense and air defense systems work well on old Soviet missiles. With the Russians, they have big problems. And how quickly Ukraine was “returned” to the beginning of the XNUMXth century seems to have really frightened the West. It turns out that the economy can be undermined very simply. No energy - no economy.

It's scary to touch Belarus


The West has long perceived Minsk as a needle that is safe exactly until the moment it disappears. And then it becomes scary that she can get drunk in the most unexpected place and at an extremely unexpected time. Theoretically, it is possible to slam Belarus. If not for Russia and our union treaty.

Yesterday, the chairman of the State Security Committee of Belarus, Ivan Tertel, expressed an interesting opinion on the NWO. On the one hand, this statement does not carry any intrigue, but on the other hand, no one doubts the competence of the KGB of Belarus, and the head of the KGB never makes any statements if he does not have the relevant information:

“If the Russian Federation conducts a qualitative mobilization, provides its grouping with technical means and advanced weapons, then the hostilities will enter a key phase. We estimate that there will be a tipping point between November this year and February next.”

It seems that what does this statement have to do with Belarus? None. And if we add to this statement the statement of President Lukashenka? I mean the statement about the creation of a joint military group on the territory of Belarus. And the following statement by Defense Minister Viktor Khrenin:

“In case they attack us. If at least one meter of Belarusian land is subjected to aggression. As was said by the commander-in-chief, the answer will be immediate and harsh. Therefore, we once again warn against provocations. You don't want war with us - we don't want it either."

The conversation and even obligations to create a joint armed forces were written down in the union agreement. But this topic was hushed up for a long time, and the implementation of this clause of the agreement was limited to talks and projects. And suddenly, for many, a statement by President Lukashenko sounded unexpected.

Several thousand Russian soldiers (in the version of the Belarusian president, more than one thousand) will be deployed on the territory of the republic. This is despite the fact that today the number of Belarusian Armed Forces is about 70 thousand people, of which about 10 thousand are conscripts. Aviation? Approximately 200 combat aircraft. Let's add here 600 Belarusian tanks (plus approximately 1 in storage). Agree, a significant increase for the defense of the country.

Judging by the Polish press, the West was really frightened by another figure, voiced by Alexander Lukashenko. 500 thousand bayonets in a short time! This is a very real figure in the event of a general mobilization. The plans of the gentry did not include in any way to resist such an army. Although everyone is well aware that, most likely, this will not happen. More precisely - will not have time to happen ...

Now touching Belarus has become scary even for the Poles. And such plans were and are.

Poland should become the next "victim" of Russia


Have you ever paid attention to how calmly Washington, and especially the Pentagon, reacts to rather serious losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Loud statements by politicians of the second echelon, concerns, promises and... nothing. Some meetings, some agreements, pressure on Western countries. Everyone is well aware that the United States is removing competitors and enslaving Europe.

I have already written that globally Washington no longer needs Ukraine. The Moor has done his job, and now no one cares what fate awaits him (her - Ukraine). No one planned to fight for this country. What Western politicians have said many times. It was noticeable even to the naked eye. But the question arises why?

Who is the favorite wife of Americans today? Poland! We have become so accustomed to the American interpretation of Warsaw's role in Europe that we have stopped looking into the distance. Warsaw is fighting for leadership in Europe!

But let's look to the future. Do Americans need a strong country in completely enslaved Europe? Do we need a "new Germany" there? Unfortunately no.

The US needs the next Ukraine. The next state they plan to destroy after taking over Europe. Where does it come from? Let's remember who and with whom competes for leadership in the world. Who are the main enemies of Washington? And where is Poland?

It's even easier with friends. The United States has no friends, only vassals.

The adventure in Ukraine and with the sanctions failed. In the first case, the Russian army turned out to be stronger than the NATO one, in the second case, sanctions rather played a positive role for the Russian economy, making it more autonomous, independent from the West. The negative, with the exception of the EU, was distributed approximately equally. Problems began both in Russia and in the United States.

Briefly about what happened


As always, let's try to draw some conclusions from what happened.

First of all, there are rumors that the army of Belarus will nevertheless take part in the NVO. What for? Russia is doing quite well on its own. We really have nowhere to hurry. Let's gather strength, wait for the time when all this wheeled and caterpillar European equipment will sink in the Ukrainian black soil, and strangle NATO and their hangers-on right in the field.

In addition, Belarusians in the steppes of Ukraine are the “blue dream” of Kyiv. The open participation of Minsk in the NWO will give an imaginary, but still a trump card to Kyiv in the matter of increasing supplies. We would have coped with Russia even today, but also with Belarus - it will not work! The logic is clear. I am sure that in this case, Kyiv may require Poland and the Baltic States to help through provocations at the borders. To divert part of the Belarusian army to yourself.

This does not mean at all that Zelensky will not do anything. He will not fight openly. Here you can understand Ukraine, when it blew up almost all the bridges in the border areas and mined the border areas. However, no one has canceled the tactics of using the DRG, proven in the east. I think that in many ways it was with this in mind that President Lukashenka's speech was quite tough.

In any case, Minsk is turning its main attention, and in my opinion quite rightly, to Poland. I already wrote about the oddities in the supply of American weapons to Ukraine. Some of them are simply lost somewhere in Poland. Ukrainian corruption...

But even without this, we see an increase in the number of Polish units on the border. We notice an increase in the military budget and an accelerated purchase of equipment. Not to mention the constant begging of at least some American units from the Pentagon.

So, the new joint military grouping on the territory of Belarus is, in my opinion, a mirror response to the actions of Poland and, most likely, the Baltic states. Let's look at the placement of units and subdivisions. I think that it is this group that will become the "executioner" who will punish the aggressors. Whether it be the Poles, the Balts, or, but this is still worth allowing because of the complete inadequacy of Zelensky - Ukraine.

I have the impression that we are seeing the first serious "statement of the Union State" about its military power ... Namely, the Union State! ..
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  1. Proxima
    Proxima 15 October 2022 06: 12
    +29
    The author certainly fantasized! Ukraine has already been divided, (the skin of a not killed bear) Poland is next in line. True, this "bear" still needs to be killed! In the eight months of the war, we have not even come close to this. First you need to succeed on the battlefields, and then dream about how to divide Ukraine with Poland.
    1. domokl
      15 October 2022 06: 30
      -15
      Well, yes. The fantasy is that Crimea is Russia, that Lugansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions are Russia ..
      1. Cvgt23
        Cvgt23 15 October 2022 06: 38
        -7
        So far the only plus. New residents of our country smile
      2. tatra
        tatra 15 October 2022 06: 57
        +17
        Yes, but only on paper. It would be possible to join the whole of Ukraine on paper to the Russian Federation with the same result.
        1. AdAstra
          AdAstra 15 October 2022 10: 46
          +1
          Yes, why bother with trifles, if it’s possible, then let’s get Mexico at the same time, so that it doesn’t feel comfortable at all.
        2. lopvlad
          lopvlad 15 October 2022 14: 24
          +3
          Quote: tatra
          Yes, but only on paper.


          on paper, at the moment, Ukraine itself exists, and the DPR, LPR, Kherskonskaya and Zaporozhye regions are already Russia.
      3. Taimen
        Taimen 15 October 2022 10: 18
        +18
        The Union State is, first of all, the general economy, education, currency, science, the army, etc. And if you bring in a couple of thousand (well, just "thousands") soldiers, then the Union State is ready. It's like laughter .Yes, Old Man has been fighting off our "beloved" oligarchs for more than 30 years, what kind of "Union State" do you have. He has almost socialism, and we have wild capitalism. And you are talking about the "Union State".
        1. nordscout
          nordscout 15 October 2022 12: 24
          +6
          You, "Taimen", are very right! What kind of "Union State" can we talk about .... A.G. For 30 years Lukashenka has been "fighting off" this, so to speak, "alliance", suffocating "allied" hugs, in order to save Belarus from the capitalist collapse of "everything and everything" that modern Russia brings ... And, above all, from the Russian oligarchy - this "cancer tumor" of Russia, from a complete ideological vacuum in the minds of Belarusians, a vacuum that will quickly degenerate into universal "indifference", with all the ensuing consequences that will come as soon as Russia and Belarus "merge" in "union ecstasy". With the bacillus of "Western indifference", which is already penetrating the brains of Belarusians, due to the not quite correct, in the past, paradigm of state ideological education and goal-setting, which resulted in an attempt at a "color revolution" in 2020 ... Belarus is small, socially - a sufficient state, albeit with a modest standard of living, but there, a person feels confidence in the future, social care and protection from bureaucratic arbitrariness and corruption at all "levels" of power ... Belarusian "modest socialism" is unlikely to "resist" under the onslaught of wild Russian capitalism "with a human face" (as they are trying to convince us all) ... It is clear that Belarus, alone, simply cannot survive, in this global socio-economic nightmare, you need to "lean" against someone big , strong enough, economically independent ... Regarding Russia - the "choice", in principle, is correct, and the position of Alexander Grigorievich, on this strategic issue, is timely, justified, giving a chanceBelarus to survive and continue to live ... The main task, at the moment, is not to let yourself be strangled in the "allied embrace of the older brother" ... As the rules of etiquette and healthy "smartness" "say" - keep your companion (ally) at a distance, hugs for a strong handshake and all the "assurances" of a partner in devotion to the common cause, offer to state on paper, but rather in "hard" currency or in material values ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthat your people will see ..... Although ...
      4. Hypertension
        Hypertension 15 October 2022 11: 52
        +12
        Quote: domokl
        The fantasy is that Crimea is Russia, that Lugansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions are Russia ..

        Of the entire list, only Crimea is completely behind Russia. Not a shelled area - not a single one. Even Crimea, no, no, but it gets from sabotage. The balance asks to evacuate the population of the Kherson region.
        Life (of a significant part of the population of the regions) hangs by a thread, and the author thinks about profit ...
    2. skeptick2
      skeptick2 15 October 2022 09: 54
      +5
      Quote: Proxima
      The author certainly fantasized!

      Yes, fantasies are just that. And sweet dreams.
      "Army of the Wreath" is now, therefore, no longer 300000 mobiles? Now it's syabry? Now they will split the APU to smithereens? Is that all hope now?
      Blessed is he who believes ...
      1. lopvlad
        lopvlad 17 October 2022 08: 34
        +4
        Quote from: skeptick2
        Blessed is he who believes ...


        there are still narrow-minded supporters of pig-nosed and stupidly believing that 30 million Ukrainian pigs will be able to tear 140 million Russian bears and 10 million Belarusian bison.
    3. lopvlad
      lopvlad 15 October 2022 14: 34
      -4
      Quote: Proxima
      True, this "bear" still needs to be killed!


      where did you see a bear in Ukraine? she doesn’t pull errands for the Americans except for jackal-tobacco. The point is not how much time has passed, but the fact that Russia has not touched not only the energy, transport and even military infrastructure all these months (strike in Western Ukraine where the West does not bring weapons it was actually the whole summer) of Ukraine.
      In just three days, Russia has 30% of its energy infrastructure out of order. What do you think would be left of Ukraine by today if Russia, from the very beginning of the NWO, had been hitting this infrastructure every day?
      Success on the battlefields with the enemy depends on the defeat of its infrastructure (energy, civilian, transport, military) in the rear.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 15 October 2022 19: 05
        0
        That's it. I really hope that I will witness the collapse and division of the non-state-Ukraine. Who and how will tear off pieces of the territory is not important. The country that accidentally arose and received everything and,, on a silver platter, and its people, did not appreciate their happiness. I hope they appreciate the loss. Although, it is unlikely .. Brains are not enough.
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    4. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 17 October 2022 19: 53
      0
      Quote: Proxima
      Ukraine has already been divided, (the skin of a not killed bear) Poland is next in line. True, this "bear" still needs to be killed!

      Since when did jackals and hyenas become bears?
  2. Cvgt23
    Cvgt23 15 October 2022 06: 37
    -11
    joint grouping. Belarusians have no combat experience. They will run away. feel
    1. ammunition
      ammunition 15 October 2022 09: 26
      +14
      Quote from Cvgt23
      Belarusians have no combat experience. They will run away.

      Belarusians are not a gram worse as soldiers than Ukrainians or Great Russians.
      The point here is completely different! sad The fact is that it is not clear to Belarusians - "why should they get into this meat grinder?" .. Substituting Belarus and their families under the inevitable blows .. and, accordingly, destruction and blood.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 15 October 2022 10: 08
        -3
        Belarusians do not understand - "why should they get into this meat grinder?" ..

        I have never met a more stupid idea about Belarusians, they understand everything perfectly and will not want to be a geyrobidl.
        1. Plate
          Plate 15 October 2022 17: 19
          0
          In my opinion, what is happening today is an attempt to throw the current directors of globalization out of their seats and take them over ourselves. The attempt is made at least by Putin and his entourage. He talks about it almost directly. I support such undertakings - the desire to live in a country that has a serious impact on world processes. But all this does not shine for Belarusians in any case. Therefore, I agree with the opinion that ordinary citizens of Belarus do not objectively need to participate in all this. But the laws of history are such that it is very difficult to sit on the sidelines during such showdowns.
          1. Jager
            Jager 15 October 2022 20: 26
            +3
            Big politics does not choose) Either you are the subject of influence or the object. This is the law. Belarus is not Madagascar, it will not work to sit out in the center of Europe when it is blazing across the border. The father did not save the chair in order to watch him peep out from behind the fence.
      2. Cvgt23
        Cvgt23 15 October 2022 10: 40
        -1
        Yes, you have been more precise. I agree.
    2. d.zacharith
      d.zacharith 16 October 2022 10: 43
      0
      The parquet-ceremonial divisions of the Arbat Military District are running, and Belarus has nowhere to run from its land
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 October 2022 06: 38
    0
    Poland should become the next "victim" of Russia
    And apparently the Americans are already preparing it for this. The Poles, blinded by Russophobia, are sure that such a "friend" as the United States will definitely stand up for Poland, especially since it is a member of NATO. But whether she will intercede in the event of her allegedly independent decision to enter Ukraine, and even more so Belarus, is a big question. This country is rushing at full speed not to acquire new (former) territories, but to the next partition and the loss of what is available today.
  4. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 15 October 2022 06: 42
    +1
    Poland, the Baltic States, Ukraine are a triangle of Russophobia, fed by the ideas of the British. Europe will freeze. But not because of the lack of our gas. But because of the exorbitant greed of its speculators. With a normal distribution of fuel, you can survive the winter. The main thing now is not to force events. If there is a collapse, then he does not need to interfere.
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 17 October 2022 08: 44
      +1
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      With a normal distribution of fuel, you can survive the winter


      Europe will be able to survive the winter only by ruining its industry, and this is deindustrialization and the standard of living of ordinary people will be like ours in the 90s.
  5. steelmaker
    steelmaker 15 October 2022 06: 46
    +13
    "I don't think anyone doubts our victory in Ukraine."
    Yes, but at what cost. And what did Putin do to prevent this war from happening? Just don't say that Russia was not ready, but now we have an abundance?
    "o was greatly shaken by Russian shelling of Ukraine's infrastructure."
    "Energy supply, disrupted as a result of Russian strikes, has been restored throughout Ukraine, rolling blackouts are not applied. This was stated by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Denys Shmygal."https://www.vesti.ru/article/2991981
    "when the Ukrainian people chose a clown instead of the presumptuous oligarch Poroshenko without any program and vision of the future of Ukraine,"
    Have you seen Putin's program for 20 years? Some slogans!
    "We really have nowhere to hurry."
    If you say this in Donetsk or now in Belgorod, if they don’t tear you, then they will beat you for sure!
    "a serious "statement of the Union State" about its military power .."
    And as soon as Lukashenka was not called: both a multi-vector one, and a seater on two chairs, etc. Friend is known in trouble!
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 15 October 2022 07: 16
      -11
      I am sure that if there is a slight advantage in the war, then people like you will go to war on the side of Ukraine, a ready traitor in its purest form.
      1. steelmaker
        steelmaker 15 October 2022 07: 41
        +9
        "something like you will go to fight on the side of Ukraine,"
        For all mediocrity and ignoramuses, I will say: "Russia is a great country, and the Russians are a great people! And a great country and a great people, a war can be lost only because of betrayal. This is what the history teacher told us to children at school." Education should be received, not bought! Then you will confirm your accusations with facts or arguments! And there is nothing to hide behind the flag. You yourself are a traitor, since such a CBO suits you.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 15 October 2022 09: 43
          +14
          Quote: steel maker
          And there is nothing to hide behind the flag. You yourself are a traitor, since such a CBO suits you.
          I have such a turbo-patriot-special operator at work, he also fights against sedition in the rear. True, when he was asked why he was not at the front - he was not fit for combat, when he donated blood for the hospital - then yellowish squirrels (such as what if he had hepatitis). And there are a lot of clowns
    2. lopvlad
      lopvlad 17 October 2022 08: 55
      +3
      Quote: steel maker
      "Energy supply, disrupted as a result of Russian strikes, has been restored throughout Ukraine, rolling blackouts are not applied. This was stated by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Denys Shmygal."https://www.vesti.ru/article/2991981


      they have military losses of 9 thousand, according to them, but in reality more than 100 thousand are only verified. As for energy supply, it has been restored due to the redistribution of capacities from which Ukraine previously sold electricity to Europe (Slovakia, Poland, Hungary). Now Ukraine has electricity to Europe does not deliver because after the Russian strikes that were a week ago, they themselves do not have enough.
      Judging by the fact that the cold weather will come soon and the blows to the energy infrastructure of Ukraine continue, then the Ukrainians will sit under a torch. And it is Russia that has not yet touched the gas infrastructure and gas storage facilities in Ukraine.
  6. Leader_Barmaleev
    Leader_Barmaleev 15 October 2022 06: 53
    -11
    Good article. Not flawless, controversial at some points, but correct and timely The only remark, and even then not in essence, history is not only not a science about the future, but not a science at all. History is an interpretation of events that sciences such as archeology, chronology and even meteorology with botany and zoology throw at her. And forecasts for the future can only be given by a syncretic of two sciences - psychology and economics. And if we turn to them, the picture turns out to be almost the same as described in the article under two indispensable conditions: a Slavocentric ideology will finally form in Russia and the level of economic development and economic autonomy of Russia will not fall below what we have now (which is really the lowest limit of admissible). Personally, I believe that in the future, not in the distant abstract, but in the real post-war, Russia will be strong and prosperous.
  7. tatra
    tatra 15 October 2022 07: 05
    +17
    I don't think anyone doubts our victory in Ukraine. Even the Ukrainians themselves do not doubt it.

    A very strange statement after what happened in Ukraine. And what is considered a victory? Putin is even now ready to sign a peace treaty that secured 4 regions of Ukraine for the Russian Federation. So this is considered a victory? Was it all for this? For the sake of this, the Russian Federation has become even more impoverished, even more technologically backward, hated in the world? For the sake of this, Russian women and children have lost their sons, husbands, fathers?
    1. domokl
      15 October 2022 07: 33
      -18
      Quote: tatra
      And what is considered a victory?

      Denazification, demilitarization and liberation of Donbass. the rest is related "goods"
      1. tatra
        tatra 15 October 2022 07: 36
        +13
        Ha, and you seriously believe that this will be possible to do? Then you are not able to adequately assess reality.
        Putin wants to take at least these 4 regions, which he annexed to the Russian Federation on paper, but the Ukrainian enemies of the USSR do not even want to give them away. They already felt their strength and their superiority at the front.
        1. domokl
          15 October 2022 07: 47
          -17
          How to understand this, took it on paper? Is the law just paper for you? Look at those who are already at war. How they are seen off and what the women say, whose tears you so emotionally refer to. I mean Crimea, Kherson and Donbass
          1. tatra
            tatra 15 October 2022 07: 54
            +12
            These are your emotions, and I have reality. And any normal wife and mother, sending her husband or son to war, cries because they may not return. And children are now crying that they are deprived of their fathers, albeit for a while, and some forever.
            1. Simple
              Simple 15 October 2022 14: 12
              -3
              Quote: tatra
              These are your emotions, and I have reality.


              Criticize - suggest.
              And so you can state a nervous breakdown.
              1. Shark Lover
                Shark Lover 17 October 2022 08: 39
                +2
                This is one of those because of whom losses increase many times over. Do not pay attention.
            2. Shark Lover
              Shark Lover 17 October 2022 08: 39
              +3
              However, when a husband, son, signs a contract in peacetime and serves in the Army, the wife, mother, father has nothing against, on the contrary, encourages. Father, mother, daughter, son, wife does not know why the Army is needed at all? So find out. Yes, in the war they die, are maimed. They also cripple on the streets, they kill, don’t let your people out on the street, in short, I know people like you, I met, I don’t even want to develop the topic further, you have one argument, they die. For this argument I will give 1000 arguments in which they die not in Army. You just don’t go to the front, otherwise you never know. Today I saw off a guy, flew in on vacation, a marine, since February there, he asked, there are a lot of people like you, they hate, they stink, tell me, is this a necessary war? Do you know what he answered? Man, 9 months was there and flies away from his wife, child again, contract worker. Answer, this war was inevitable, we are doing everything right. The kid is 29 years old, Pacific Fleet (specially wrote for people like you that the Pacific Fleet is far away, it doesn’t seem to concern). I have a client, a very wealthy woman, her son said, I'm going to the Army, then a contract to Ukraine. Why? We need help there. Yes, don’t throw undercooked cheesecakes at me, I’m 59, until they called me up, I fought for 2 years, I fought directly.
              1. Mikhail Sidorov
                Mikhail Sidorov 18 October 2022 12: 20
                +1
                Today I saw off a guy, flew in on vacation, a marine, since February there, he asked, there are a lot of people like you, they hate, they stink, tell me, is this a necessary war? Do you know what he answered? Man, 9 months was there and flies away from his wife, child again, contract worker. Answer, this war was inevitable, we are doing everything right. The kid is 29 years old, Pacific Fleet (specially wrote for people like you that the Pacific Fleet is far away, it doesn’t seem to concern). I have a client, a very wealthy woman, her son said, I'm going to the Army, then a contract to Ukraine. Why? We need help there.

                Low bow to the guys. hi
                Thanks to them.
          2. Stas157
            Stas157 15 October 2022 09: 07
            +11
            Quote: domokl
            How to understand this, took it on paper?

            And that 4 regions have already been completely liberated and are under our control? Do not try to sell an unkilled bear.
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      3. AUL
        AUL 15 October 2022 11: 01
        0
        Quote: domokl
        Quote: tatra
        And what is considered a victory?

        Denazification, demilitarization and liberation of Donbass. the rest is related "goods"

        Alexander, these goals were announced to us 8 months ago. But what do you think, what is the sign that the denazification of Ukraine was successful and can be stopped? Only, please, be specific, without general words and vague definitions! With demilitarization and Donbass - more or less clear.
  8. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 15 October 2022 08: 06
    +3
    The propaganda that descends on our people is no good. They write different things, some in the forest, some for firewood. And even the words “armageddon”, apocalypse are often heard. to support those who are weak in spirit. Why was Silva staged in besieged Leningrad? To show that life goes on. Women should give birth to children for the future. And those who say that we should die en masse are either Satanists or sectarians.
  9. Mikhail Maslov
    Mikhail Maslov 15 October 2022 08: 21
    +9
    Yes, it’s called casting a shadow on the wattle fence. The article is raw and patriotic. The author, look at the front line, look at the shelling of the territories of the Russian Federation. Maybe it’s enough to shout cheers and share. If you write, do a serious analysis of the situation.
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 15 October 2022 09: 13
      +10
      Quote: Mikhail Maslov
      Yes, it’s called casting a shadow on the wattle fence. The article is raw and patriotic. The author, look at the front line, look at the shelling of the territories of the Russian Federation. Maybe it’s enough to shout cheers and share. If you write, do a serious analysis of the situation.

      Staver has all such articles, he doesn’t know how otherwise.
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 15 October 2022 09: 29
      +7
      Quote: Mikhail Maslov
      Maybe it's enough to shout cheers and share

      It is useless - he has God's dew on his eyes. I will believe our hats only in one case. Then, when they begin to write from the trench.
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 15 October 2022 08: 24
    +5
    globally, Washington no longer needs Ukraine
    Globally, the main thing has been done, on the territory of the former USSR, a new, powerful, military-economic union has not arisen.
  11. Boycott
    Boycott 15 October 2022 08: 31
    -8
    There is no point in bickering with online trolls, but two things need to be mentioned. 1st: Russia will win, and this is clear to any sane person. 2nd: the fate of all countries "helped" by the states is ultimately unenviable. Who promised that it would be different with Ukraine or the same Poland?
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      1. Boycott
        Boycott 16 October 2022 08: 58
        0
        Hitler also thought right up to Kursk. Heirs.
  12. 1939_1940
    1939_1940 15 October 2022 09: 07
    +11
    This is not an analytical article, but a very subtle trolling .. Put together all the propaganda, slogans, and so it’s straight blood from the eyes, from the level of patriotism ..
  13. Victor Leningradets
    Victor Leningradets 15 October 2022 09: 25
    -3
    With real mobilization and waging war by conventional means in Belarus, we will face an enemy with a numerical, military-technical and positional advantage.
    Belarus is a very loose entity in terms of the state, which is capable of mobilizing, of course, not 500 people (this is organizationally impossible), but about 000 is quite realistic. The trouble is that already TODAY they must be mobilized, armed, trained and deployed as part of combat and, no less important, rear units. The entire civilian population should be transferred to the performance of labor service by no means at their workplaces, significant industries and personnel should be evacuated to the territory of Russia. The Russian army should strengthen the Belarusian grouping, and the glorified General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - the overall leadership of the troops and appoint a commander.
    Only then can it be possible to organize a competent defense of the Belarusian ledge, which is extremely unsuccessful in terms of position.
    The main problem with any plan of war in this direction is the play on the defensive. The enemy, using the numerical and military-technical superiority and owning the initiative, is able to defeat the Belarusian grouping in the border battle and reach the Western Dvina-Svisloch-Berezina line. This is if it is possible to avoid large encirclements of the 1941 model. Otherwise, stabilization is possible along the Dnieper.
    The loss of vast territories will inevitably lead to a breakdown in the morale of the population loyal to the Lukashenka regime and the intensification of the hostile activities of the pro-Western part. The proclamation of S. Tikhanovskaya as President of the provisional government of Belarus in one of the captured Belarusian cities will allow unstable elements to change their oath and either desert or join the invaders. It should be recognized that the ideological and patriotic work with youth in Belarus is extremely bureaucratized and in many respects loses to the attractive image of "entering the common European home" created by Poland.
    The only way to decisively reverse the negative development of events is a preemptive offensive, both by the forces of the right flank of the Belarusian grouping and the North-Western grouping of troops of the Russian Federation, into the Baltic states with a lightning defeat of the Baltic NATO grouping. At the same time, the stabilization of the front could be achieved along the line corresponding to the autumn of 1944. However, Article 5 of NATO paralyzes the resolve of our leadership, which dooms us to the implementation of a negative scenario.
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      1. Victor Leningradets
        Victor Leningradets 15 October 2022 12: 16
        0
        This is not the path, but the end of the path.
        And about "Three Boreas" I have already written twice, I'm tired of repeating.
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 15 October 2022 16: 44
          -1
          Yeah, and NATA will sit and watch how we pick out its grouping and nod approvingly. A very good reason to drag into the war, not indirectly, geyropa, in full force. That's why the Indians will dance for joy. To implement such plans, you need to have the Soviet Army of the 60-70s.
    2. composite
      composite 15 October 2022 19: 18
      0
      they should be mobilized TODAY

      Who are they"? 80+ percent of the electorate who voted for "him" two years ago?
      there the elections were the same as the referendum in Kherson, or do you not know?
  14. Radikal
    Radikal 15 October 2022 09: 47
    0
    Did you pay attention to the illustrative photo at the beginning of the article?
    A Belarusian armored car with a machine gun turret, and ours with ... an open hatch. As they say - "feel" the difference... with all parts of the body. sad
    1. Victor Leningradets
      Victor Leningradets 15 October 2022 10: 02
      -1
      This is wonderful, but if the notorious Old Man had had a mind, he would have let all his officers through participation in the NWO, and he would have tested the equipment through the supply for the Russian Federation. The same Polonaise for example.
      1. SaLaR
        SaLaR 15 October 2022 13: 59
        +1
        Azerbaijanis ran in polonaises ....
  15. Radikal
    Radikal 15 October 2022 10: 28
    -2
    Quote: Victor Leningradets
    This is wonderful, but if the notorious Old Man had had a mind, he would have let all his officers through participation in the NWO, and he would have tested the equipment through the supply for the Russian Federation. The same Polonaise for example.

    I agree. bully
  16. Essex62
    Essex62 15 October 2022 10: 31
    +7
    Staver in his repertoire. "We took Berlin" and divide the outskirts. Fanfare and drumming sound. Wake up Staver. This cooperative lake can only suck from the pipe, drive the sucked enemy to the west and change the constitution for itself.
  17. Maks1995
    Maks1995 15 October 2022 13: 14
    -3
    And, the second time they pulled an owl on a globe. It's all wrong, it's not like that
    And in real life - everything is as it should be.
    "how does Washington, and especially the Pentagon, calmly react to fairly serious losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Loud statements by second-tier politicians, concerns, promises and ... nothing." and the like.
    It is worth looking at the globe, where is Washington, and where is the NWO zone. And by what rules does NATO operate.

    Yes, through the same imperialist, as in 14, indirectly, and by proxy.
    Russia did not recognize LDNR for 8 years, although there was chatter .... And not a single Russian military - purely volunteers, instructors, etc. And spit on everything - no evacuation, whoever wants, he himself leaves from under shelling .... Just like now, with rare exceptions.
  18. vital.33
    vital.33 15 October 2022 16: 08
    +3
    Lord, what kind of nonsense is crazy? ...
  19. Anton S
    Anton S 15 October 2022 19: 28
    0
    Does the author really think that people in Belarus are sitting and looking forward to being driven to slaughter in Ukraine? Belarusians expressed their attitude towards the commander-in-chief of mass protests back in 2020.
    Ukrainians will win and are already winning this war because they are fighting for their homeland.
    No one wants to enter your Russian world, because you cannot even shape this world into something attractive even for yourself.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 16 October 2022 19: 44
      +1
      Ukrainians will win and are already winning this war


      Unfortunately for Ukraine, Russia cannot lose.
      Alas, you are out of luck. Enemies must be chosen correctly.


      Ukrainians will win and are already winning this war because they are fighting for their homeland.


      We respect the country of Ukraine.
      within its historical boundaries.
      What you come with, you leave with.
      1. Anton S
        Anton S 16 October 2022 21: 48
        -2

        Unfortunately for Ukraine, Russia cannot lose.
        Alas, you are out of luck. Enemies must be chosen correctly.

        I am not from Ukraine. Russia has chosen Ukraine as an enemy. The countdown for Putin went on February 24.02, the Wenck army will not approach him. You will be hated for generations to come.
  20. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 15 October 2022 21: 40
    -2
    I don't think anyone doubts our victory in Ukraine.

    You can at least downvote, but if everything continues as it is happening now, then I'm not at all sure about it. Moreover, we will lose what we have today.
  21. yuriy1863
    yuriy1863 16 October 2022 09: 35
    0
    Everything looks very rosy from the author. The situation with Transcarpathia is more or less real. The Hungarians have been "taming" this territory for a long time. And the population there is special. The graves of the soldiers of all armies who fell on this earth: Hungarian, Czechoslovak, German and Soviet are always well-groomed. Because often in the same family, men fought as part of various armies, sometimes even opposing ones. What can not be said about the neighbors in the Carpathians. In Transcarpathia, you can see two state flags at once on the buildings of local administrations - Ukraine and Hungary. Poland, sooner or later, will get old problems with radical Ukrainian nationalists. There is hatred at the genetic level.
  22. MDSW
    MDSW 16 October 2022 10: 39
    -2
    Have you seen Belarusian riot policemen? Yes, even standing next to it is scary. Compared to them, any fan of the rainbow flag.....just a dart board. Belarus has long been underestimated. And very in vain. If she comes into play. Everyone freaks out.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 16 October 2022 19: 42
      0
      Have you seen the Belarusian riot police


      Talk about the army.
    2. My doctor
      My doctor 17 October 2022 20: 47
      0
      Quote: MDSW
      Have you seen Belarusian riot policemen? Yes, even standing next to it is scary.

      I have a friend who is a student at prom. he had an internship at the enterprise, so he was afraid to hit the drill with a hammer. He fought when he saw that his classmate hit his finger with a hammer, he never touched the hammer, as I just didn’t break it. On an urgent term in Minsk in special forces, he served under demobilization and hid (I accidentally found out from his former colleague). Now he is an OMON officer, two meters tall and weighing 120 kg. Do you think they will risk their lives?
  23. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 16 October 2022 11: 51
    +1
    About the time when we will “stand at the walls of Berlin”, and the modern “Hitler” will rush about in his bunker somewhere in Vinnitsa in search of at least some kind of exit or run away to some modern “Argentina”. About the modern "April 1945"

    Beautiful words, but this is demagogy. SE is not Hitler, neither ambitions, nor brains, nor background. This is the protracted Admiral Doenitz. Despite the rhetoric as sharp as Chile, it was not WE that gave birth to the cult of Bandera, Ukrainian nationalists, and deepened antagonism with the Russian Federation.
    He is responsible for the aggravation of the situation - but he did not initiate it, and the main milestones also did not occur under him. Can a person in the Ukrainian politicum have the power to go against the trends? Or do they sweep him away if he rows against the current?
    History shows that rather no than yes. This is shown to us by the history of Yanukovych - who revealed the already ripened trend towards the Euro direction, played with it, then gave back - and was swept away by it.
    And the story of Poroshenko - who found himself inside a tough environment that required a maximum of consistent decisions on the broadest front - he could not provide this and thought narrowly for such a range of tasks - as a result, he was actually "swept away", because an experienced "shabby" politician from his billions and administrative resources "washed away" by a comedian with no experience.
    In general, this is the story of Yushchenko, who at the beginning of his journey in "high politics" had a huge carte blanche, but degenerated and went out of his way to garbage political and electoral sympathies "swept away" him, raising another "talking head".

    I am leading to the fact that for the Ukrainian politicians "political authority" as we understand it - does not exist. Politicians there are often very mediocre people who climb to the top not because of their abilities, but because of a more reactive electorate with SIGNIFICANT weight.
    One can arbitrarily argue that "oligarchs" are behind the electorate - Poroshenko was (and is) an oligarch - did this help him run for a second time? No.
    There you can not write against the wind - and ZE does not write against the wind. His ability to "rule" is severely limited by the powerful current, including the historical logic of the moment.
    The logic of the moment is that before WE the country lost "de facto" almost three regions. And any president who would say "well, what can you do" would fly away for Yanuca, in the BEST case.
    The potential for "talking" was also exhausted by the predecessor of WE. What could he do in such circumstances?
    It must be understood that not a single person without ambition will be in power in 99.99% of cases. It must be understood that ambition is, among other things, a claim to a place in history. And the fact that, as a rule, a person wants to leave a positive page in history. And not to stay there "the forehead that finally lowered 3 regions".

    So, in my opinion, WE can be directly accused of only two things - that he was stupid enough to climb to the very top in these dirty times, and that he did not possess the proper abilities for this. History keeps him there like the force of gravity - he no longer has power over the ship, which is devoid of masts and rudder.
    Calling him "Hitler" is incorrect - Adolf himself made the mess.
    And ZE was just stupid enough to demand a full plate of someone else's.
  24. nordscout
    nordscout 17 October 2022 14: 17
    0
    The article by A. Staver, I would call the article of the "Kremlin dreamer" (according to G. Wales) .... Let's first defeat the enemy, and then we will scare the rest of the world with "serious statements of the Union State" .... Judging by " "intensity" of deliveries, the range, quality and volume of weapons - NATO + the United States have long ceased to be "scared" ... I will not go into the reasons for the "desperate courage" of NATO + the United States - they lie on the "surface". You just need to "turn on your brain", at least for a short time, to analyze what is happening in the Ukrainian theater since 24. "sound-letter speech space"....
  25. yuriy1863
    yuriy1863 17 October 2022 22: 45
    0
    Unfortunately, the Union State exists only on paper. And I have a big doubt that the Old Man will get involved in hostilities. He will keep the border, but he will not let his soldiers into Ukrainian territory. Something extraordinary must happen for him to take part in the war. And now the Poles will only "chase" from afar, until a general go-ahead is given to deriban "Nezalezhalaya".
  26. Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev
    Vladimir Dmitrievich Burtsev 26 October 2022 17: 04
    0
    Alexander Grigorievich is just throwing dust in his eyes, Real help, except for the hassle from Belarus, is not visible. The Poles send their troops and weapons from the United States and NATO across their borders. From the territory of Belarus, the RF Armed Forces could reach the borders of Ukraine with Poland and cut off the supply of enemy military aid to Ukraine. Well, how can Alexander Grigoryevich really help a little?