Repair and modernization of equipment of the Ground Forces

The website of Rosoboronpostavka published an interesting schedule for placing orders for the purchase of property and for the repair of equipment and weapons for the Russian Ministry of Defense under the state defense order for 2013. Of greatest interest are data on the repair and modernization of certain types of armored vehicles of the Ground Forces. Colleague twower based on this document, compiled a typical list of applications for the repair of armored vehicles, tenders for which should be announced this month (in brackets the amount of the entire contract):

Medium repair:
- infantry fighting vehicle BMP-3 - 15 units. (maximum for 270 rubles);
- tanks T-90 and their modifications - 15 units. (maximum for 337 rubles)

Overhaul:
- airborne combat vehicle BMD-2 - 34 units (maximum for 177 rubles);
- armored personnel carriers BTR-D, BTR-3D, BTR-RD - 30 units (maximum for 133 rubles);
- engineering obstacles IMR-2 - 58 units. (maximum for 279 rubles);
- towing and motor boats BMK-460 with automobile base chassis KrAZ-260G - 24 units. (maximum for 130 rubles);
- excavation machines MDK-3 - 23 units. (maximum for 195 rubles);
- floating caterpillar conveyors PTS-2 - 61 units. (maximum for 211 rubles);
- tracklayers BAT-2 - 56 units. (maximum for 454 rubles);
- infantry fighting vehicle BMP-2 with modernization (with the installation of a radio station of the R-168 type and a software and hardware complex for intercom and switching equipment) - 145 units. (maximum for 1 rubles);
- armored personnel carrier BTR-80 with reduction to the form of BTR-82AM - 134 units. (maximum for 2 rubles);
- armored recovery vehicle BREM-1 - 37 units. (maximum for 529 rubles);
- caterpillar transporters-tractors MT-LB (V) with modernization and installation of a machine gun "Kord" (6P49 products) and a radio station of the R-168 type - 105 units. (maximum for 812 rubles);
- with the modernization of tanks T-72B (T-72B1) - 101 units. (maximum for 5 rubles);
- demining installations UR-77 - 32 units. (maximum for 72 rubles)

Technical supervision should also be carried out:
- a special armored vehicle with a carrying capacity of up to 2,5 tons of the IVECO type, modification 65E19WM (LMW) - N units. (maximum for 12 rubles);
- special vehicle GAZ-233014 "Tiger" (GAZ-233114 "Tiger-M") - N units. (maximum for 10 rubles).

The total cost of the given lots is 13 rubles.

Comments

[PLO]

here is one of the most interesting positions
the third contract for the modernization of the T-72 finally to the full version of the B2 Slingshot

- with the modernization of tanks T-72B (T-72B1) - 101 units. (maximum for 5 rubles);

Taking into account previous contracts for 170 and 360 tanks, the total number of modernized 72s becomes quite significant

[Joker]

Even a little expensive, but it's good that they started to spread all this, at least you can at least see where the money goes.

[PLO]

Too expensive though

well I wouldn't say
about 50 lyam per tank comes out, given the fact that, according to the latest information, the T-90 cost about 90 lyam, everything looks quite logical

[Sasha 19871987]

good deed ... finally they began to fuss about technology, there are a lot of dilapidated copies ... but with the world on a string, everything will work out

[Jin]

Quote: sasha 19871987

there are a lot of dilapidated copies

Plus!!! In our battalion of 37 BMP-1 and BMP-2, for 2 years of the term, none of them started up more than 1 time, and even then, when they were driven from the old park to the new one ... Three killed "penny" were used on driving, only they rode, with grief in half, since they died out in the steppe in winter, it’s good that the regiment’s deputy commander, a competent man, was with us, otherwise all the “principles” would freeze themselves))) Everything is shabby, plundered, 80% just scrap metal! !! With tanks (three battalions of "eighties") things were a little better, but also not a fountain.

[grig1969]

It's a little unclear - 5,3 tanks are being modernized for 101 billion rubles - is that 50 million rubles per tank - almost $ 2 million?

[APASUS]

Quote: olp

Taking into account previous contracts for 170 and 360 tanks, the total number of modernized 72s becomes quite significant

This is what is sad!!
Modernization is being carried out all over the world, but ...... they are also buying new tanks !!!
And we have ? 080808 entered into hostilities ................
here is the sadness!!

[leon-iv]

Name sister! (c)
The country that buys tanks other than China and India. Look at NATO!.

[predator.2]

Holy shit those are some numbers! But of course they'll steal half of it, if not more!

[vorobey]

The emphasis, as I understand it, is on the inflated amounts of contracts, judging by the primary sources, and how many N ivecos and lynxes.

Although I think the numbers are real. taking into account the cost of transportation to the place of repair and back. especially since it will be a tender or an auction?

[Armata]

Quote: vorobey

especially since it will be a tender or an auction?

Hello Sanya. What tender? Between whom and whom? We are now upgrading tanks
only at UVZ (N. Tagil) Yesterday, at the crossing, I myself saw about 40 cars being transported to the plant by train. But they shouted that they would modernize in Omsk. There is no competition in the armored vehicle segment.

[PLO]

What tender? Between whom and whom?

despite the fact that the choice is obvious, the form of choice is a tender, it is believed that this scheme is the most anti-corruption... unfortunately, it is only believed)

only at UVZ (N. Tagil) Yesterday, at the crossing, I myself saw about 40 cars being transported to the plant by train. But they shouted that they would modernize in Omsk. There is no competition in the armored vehicle segment.

Are you sure that there is nothing in Omsk? in addition, KBTM is also part of the NPK Uralvagonzavod

[vorobey]

Zhenya hello - do not boil. Yesterday there was only an article about Omsk - the armor conference 2012. Only there are no results of the conference yet and no one is in a hurry to cover it. Remember what I said about Omsk?

now on a slingshot, I agree that modernization is taking place mainly in Tagil. but capital can also be used for others. How many armored personnel carriers we really have left.
Now the next. there is no layout by districts and it makes no sense to T90, which we mainly drag to the Urals for repairs. therefore, approximately I know the plant where they will go exactly like the BTR and BMP2. On the one hand, this pleases me, there are prospects for me personally. because the guys there actually invest part of the funds in the development and modernization of production not only under the FTP, but also on their own. By the way, to overestimate prices or do kickbacks, as the hand does not rise.

[Armata]

Quote: olp

Are you sure that there is nothing in Omsk? in addition, KBTM is also part of the NPK Uralvagonzavod

In Omsk, at the moment, only repairs are carried out. Although they beat themselves with a heel that only new equipment would be in Tagil, and they would give modernization and repair to Omsk. And the fact that Omsk is UVZ, I knew even before the signing of the main documents. Unfortunately, you often have to visit this bordach factory.

Well, part of the BMP will be made at the Armored Plant No. 9, that's for sure. It was just built purely for the capital of this technique.

Sanya, well, part of the armored personnel carrier will be made at BTZ No. 9, that's for sure. After all, it was built specifically for the capital of this technique.

[PLO]

In Omsk, at the moment, only repairs are carried out.

What kind of tanks, if not a secret?
sort of slipped infa about the contract for the repair of the T-80BV

Although they beat themselves with a heel that there would be only new equipment in Tagil,

so it seems like they are only churning out new tanks for India there, maybe when Armata catches up they will also transfer the modernization to Omsk
there are rumors that UVZ is gradually installing new equipment for the production of Almaty at UVZ?

[Armata]

Quote: olp

What kind of tanks, if not a secret?
sort of slipped infa about the contract for the repair of the T-80BV

In most of the T-80, well, and part of the T-72. They were fitted with a T-60 for sale to someone to cook.

Quote: olp

so it seems there are only new tanks for India being riveted there, maybe when Armata catches up they will transfer modernization to Omsk
there are rumors that UVZ is gradually installing new equipment for the production of Almaty at UVZ?

That's the whole point of what they do for the Hindus. In several workshops, equipment has already been installed (by the way, part of the old instead of the new was dragged under the guise) of the type for Armata. The difference in the production of the T-90 and Almaty is insignificant, there, basically, only other stands are needed.

[PLO]

In most of the T-80, well, and part of the T-72. They were fitted with a T-60 for sale to someone to cook.

and found this news

The Russian Ministry of Defense announced a tender for the repair of 115 T-80BV tanks

115 tanks, the order is relatively large, so it’s probably not necessary to rush to deploy a site for the modernization of 72 tanks

well, part of the T-72.

Well they might be on cats T-72s are still training)

[vorobey]

Quote: Mechanic

Unfortunately, you often have to visit this bordach factory.

Zheka Omsk or UVZ.

[Armata]

In Tagil, of course. He is 160 km from us. And now I'm supervising a big project there. So I involuntarily become aware of many things.

[leon-iv]

Is Omsk ready for repair of 72-k? up to level B2

[Armata]

Don't know. I only know that the money was invested in the reconstruction of the production of Omsk and Tagil. And nothing is done in Tagil.

[Vadivak]

technical Supervision:
- a special armored vehicle with a carrying capacity of up to 2,5 tons of the IVECO type

There is no such thing as technical supervision, technical inspection, technical control, there is, but for such money to change oil and brake pads? I would find uranium with a pickaxe in Moscow

[PLO]

well, here's how to see
now they seem to be trying to switch to outsourcing and entrust the maintenance of equipment to civilian companies, i.e. companies pay a certain amount and within the agreed time, and all the costs of maintaining the machine in good condition are already borne by the contractor company
kind of insurance)

[IRBIS]

Vadivak
Agree. I am specially ready to come where they say and, for that kind of money, carry out MOT. Can we organize LLC "Masters of crap" and participate in the tender?

[vorobey]

Take the Irbis to the company. I promise to be good.

[IRBIS]

Hello! Of course I take! You will be a deputy for the rear - beer, women and all that. Is it coming?

[vorobey]

Quote: IRBIS

Is it coming?

No, I love to drink.

[IRBIS]

I hope not our joint loot???

[vorobey]

Quote: IRBIS

I hope not our joint loot???

Shura Balaganov taught. though I’m not weights, but sawing tables for loot. some say they are golden.

[IRBIS]

Someone did not appreciate your work, count! (minus)
Sparrow, I understand - advertising, but the table, it seems to me, is better to set!

[vorobey]

Quote: IRBIS

the table, it seems to me, is better to set!

To cover up would be a worthwhile company.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: IRBIS

Someone did not appreciate your work, count! (minus

I accidentally put one, mixed it up for easy. Sparrow will probably forgive

[vorobey]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Sparrow will probably forgive

The Balts do not take offense, the Balts take revenge.

[Armata]

Quote: vorobey

Shura Balaganov taught. though I’m not weights, but sawing tables for loot. some say they are golden.

Sanya is a handsome table. I want one like this at home. What is the price?

[vorobey]

Zhenya, close friends can afford such a gift.

[Check]

Well, this amount is the maximum, the tender will be for the smallest amount, so it is quite acceptable.

[Armata]

Quote: Check

Well, this amount is the maximum, the tender will be for the smallest amount, so it is quite acceptable.

Simple question. For the modernization of the T72, who will compete with whom? Do you know many such companies?

[Wedmak]

I have a large file and a jar of glue, can I apply for a tender?

[Armata]

Quote: Wedmak

I have a large file and a jar of glue, can I apply for a tender?

Only if all this is done in my garage

[vorobey]

Wedmak,
Mechanic,

snow leopard look rival firm looms. And what will you guys take? The snow leopard also has a file - two, and I have a garage.

[Wedmak]

But everything will be fair! Tender, competitive pricing, etc. I'll even find a hammer if I dig in my stash!

[vorobey]

a hammer is no longer fair. This is a highly equipped production.

[Wedmak]

Killed on the spot!

[Armata]

Quote: Wedmak

But everything will be fair! Tender, competitive pricing, etc. I'll even find a hammer if I dig in my stash!

I have a jack and an adjustable wrench (I got it from my grandfather).

[vorobey]

and then we save on material with the snow leopard. We will twist the wooden patches on the body with self-tapping screws and we will have cheaper logs for self-pulling, and a rammer as a gift.

[IRBIS]

It's easier to write off a couple of pieces for the impossibility of repair and drive. And what, everything is doing this in the Moscow Region now, even aircraft carriers are being sold.

[Wedmak]

In!
In general, look: a garage, three files, a jar of glue, a jack, an adjustable wrench, a hammer. If we find another drill and a brush (well, how to drill and clean a tool?), We can practically put the production of Almaty on stream! And with the corruption component - already monopolists!

[Armata]

Or maybe we will unite into a corporation (Sparrow, Irbis, the Witcher and me) and then there will be no one to compete with us at all. We will announce a new wheeled plywood tank on the market. Let's move through the Moscow region as economically profitable, but in reality we take an old loaf of plywood body kits and push it like ours somewhere for real estate.

[Wedmak]

Tagil has already cringed in fear for his future.

[Pimply]

Like that?

[IRBIS]

Goes! We'll have to take the Chinese to share, otherwise they will copy! MO will definitely go to a meeting - after all, they bought clothes from Yudashkin. Are we any worse?

[vorobey]

Quote: Wedmak

In!
In general, look: a garage, three files, a jar of glue, a jack, an adjustable wrench, a hammer. If we find another drill and a brush (well, how to drill and clean a tool?), We can practically put the production of Almaty on stream! And with the corruption component - already monopolists!

oh, the naughty ones persuaded, I present the drill and welding for a good cause

[IRBIS]

Wait for the tool to scatter, do not confuse healthy competition with the squandering of the LLC's property! We will work with them on outsourcing, it is fashionable now. This is what they call money transfer. Or leasing (the word is not very decent, but also monetary).

[vorobey]

Quote: IRBIS

Or leasing (the word is not very decent, but also monetary).

outsourcing doesn't sound good either.

[Mishael]

Guys! The repair of communication equipment is included in the overhaul.
Take a share (I have a soldering iron)

[military]

Quote: Mechanic

Quote: Wedmak I have a large file and a jar of glue, can I apply for a tender?
Only if all this is done in my garage

Here it is - a corruption component ...

[Vadivak]

Quote: Mechanic

Do you know many such companies?

Well, finally, Eugene +

[aksai61]

This is of course good, repair and modernization of SV equipment, but ...
Why is military air defense equipment not subject to repair and modernization?
Or was the VOPVO finally merged with the Air Force?

[DIMS]

Maybe they are in a different service? For example, there is no MT-LB, of which there is a sea in the troops.

[PLO]

actually there is

- caterpillar transporters-tractors MT-LB (V) with modernization and installation of a machine gun "Kord" (6P49 products) and a radio station of the R-168 type - 105 units. (maximum for 812 rubles);

[bask]

MT-LB and other armored vehicles. BTR80 BMP1,2, 1. BMD 2 3 72 modernization to modern requirements ((in terms of protection,))))) have exhausted themselves. They only need a major overhaul. But T 80 T123. GM379,569,567, "Acacia", "Giacinth", "Tulip", "Special chassis MT-SM", GM 9 need "deep" modernization. About theft and lack of competition, everything is correct. But it is still necessary. AND IF THERE IS A WAR TOMORROW?????? What will we fight in a local conflict with, armored vehicles or everything still of Soviet production (XNUMX new ones are catastrophically insufficient))). Or it requires a major overhaul - modernization!!!

[understudy]

Wow... what nonsense! It's equivalent to announcing a tender for the extraction and supply of natural gas. There are specially "tailored" enterprises and no furniture company will be able to "win" the repair of a BTT. Although... under the current Ministry of Defense, even a confectionery factory can participate in the tender.

[karimbaev]

people, why are such prices cosmic? Grandmas are laundered, at such prices it is easier to take new

[leon-iv]

And you write your estimate, and we'll see))))

[bask]

Leon-iv And you try to get into this business.

[bask]

Leon, try to "get into" this business. My brother has a mini-factory that sharpens bolts. I suggested Lavochkin's design bureau to them. They said it was good. And then one of the managers (((whispered, "How much will you personally roll back to me))))) My brother sent him to... And now he's sending him to the Renault assembly plant in Moscow. All the fasteners.. But why is the main criterion for the French, quality, and how can we steal!!! Here's your estimate... They mark up defense products by two or three times, I tell you...

[leon-iv]

get into this business
We are already climbing salesmen who brought the loot to someone in Rosvertol.

[Nechai]

Quote: Wedmak

If we find another drill and a brush (well, how to drill and clean a tool?),

And they forgot about the MAIN TOOLS! Hey, you are the producers! Crowbar and Sledgehammer, without this, well, no how and no where (a verbal slander that holds the couple together, most, I think, know). Here, at least, how to sum up the results of the tender, if without a corruption component, and without this "couple"? Yes Schaub truncated was both chinnenko and blahgarodnenko?

[evgenii67]

Quote from karimbaev

people, why are such prices cosmic? Grandmas are laundered, at such prices it is easier to take new

I also have such a question, are you guys launching a shuttle into space ???? the average repair of one T-90 tank = 22,5 million rubles, the T-90 itself costs about 95 million + -, the average repair of one BMP-3 is 18 million. at a price of about 25 million + - ...... again somewhere it goes to ..b the taxpayer

[leon-iv]

Do you have any idea how it is done? And what is changing there?

[vorobey]

Quote: leon-iv

Do you have any idea how it is done? And what is changing there?

Leon help answer?

[leon-iv]

Well, I don't know what a major overhaul of a BTT is, but people don't know. If you have time, please describe it.

[vorobey]

Overhaul - the entire tank is completely rebuilt at the factory. Everything is removed and stripped off, to the last screw. Only one bathtub remains. Something is thrown away, something is restored to the state of a new one. The tank is assembled at the factory anew, only from new or overhaul parts and assemblies. Usually, during overhaul, the tank is also modernized.

briefly so.

[Armata]

, Sanya, you forgot to say that everything is sandblasted there and then it is checked by radiation and magnetic kraography.

[Wedmak]

At the discovery, in my opinion, it was about the restoration of the Abrams. A complete overhaul, including the engine, cleaning, etc. Probably about the same with us?

[PLO]

who is interested in a photo from the 61st armored personnel carrier
T-80 overhaul

http://topwar.ru/9949-pohod-na-61-bronetankovyy-remontnyy-zavod.html

[esso]

- armored personnel carrier BTR-80 with reduction to the form of BTR-82AM - 134 units. (maximum for 2 rubles);
New modification of the BTR-82: more questions than answers
The Russian Ministry of Defense plans in 2013 to upgrade 134 BTR-80s to the level of BTR-82AM. This was reported on the website rosoboronpostavka.ru.
About a year ago, 2 motorized rifle brigades of the Russian army will change their armored personnel carriers for more modern modifications of combat vehicles. In particular, the troops will receive 134 modernized armored personnel carriers, which have been brought to the level of the latest BTR-82A at the repair enterprises of the Moscow Region.
Externally, the "repair" machine differs from the new one only in a "patch", which was installed instead of the first loophole on the right side.
The upgraded vehicles had their armament replaced. Instead of the 14,5 mm KPVT machine gun, armored personnel carriers received a 30 mm cannon, which had already been tested on the BTR-80A. But at present, the gun and coaxial machine gun are stabilized in two planes, which made it possible to fire on the move. Before, the armored personnel carrier had to stop to fire shots.
Significant work has been carried out to improve the survivability of the armored personnel carrier. From the inside, the armor of the vehicle is covered with a special anti-fragmentation material, and the bottom has a new energy-absorbing structure with two-level protection.
In addition, a modern fire extinguishing system has been installed. According to experts, the survivability of the upgraded armored personnel carriers has increased by 20%.
The slightly heavier car received a 300-horsepower diesel engine. Other work was carried out that increased the reliability of the armored personnel carrier and its off-road performance.
A year of operation in the troops of these 134 vehicles received, probably required some improvements.
Recently, a photo of the BTR-82A variant with a 30-mm 2A72 gun casing was posted on the amz.ru website, which improves firing accuracy. It is possible that we will see a similar device on updated machines. It is high time to install suspended anti-mine chairs in armored personnel carriers in order to ensure even greater survival of personnel in the event of mine explosions.
Again, at the end of this year, the production of the Agat-MDT combined sighting and observation system with a thermal imaging channel, a laser rangefinder and a ballistic computer, intended for installation, including on the BTR-82, will begin.
The new version of "Agata" should significantly increase the ability of the APC gunner to detect and destroy targets. True, there is no complete certainty that this sight will be installed on Russian versions of the BTR-82. Perhaps they are intended only for export deliveries.
There is still no clarity regarding the equipment of the equipment with a software and hardware complex to ensure automated control of military formations at the tactical level, developed by the Sozvezdie concern.
As you can see, there are still a lot of questions. It is hoped that in the near future we will receive more detailed information about this upgraded technique.