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Kazakh ideological bonds are being tested for strength

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Kazakh ideological bonds are being tested for strength



Holodomor and hospitality


In recent weeks, TV and the Internet have been flooded with footage of columns of refugees, only this time they were not representatives of the war-ravaged countries of Africa and the Middle East, rushing to fertile Europe. The refugees from the mobilization are purely ours, domestic, and the footage of the new "exodus" was distributed from the border crossings of Kazakhstan and Georgia.

The first two days after the announcement of mobilization, the flow of cars to enter Kazakhstan did not particularly exceed the average. From the night of September 23, it became already noticeable, columns lined up during the day, and later a traffic jam formed. The transition to Troitsk-Uralsk was especially unlucky, however, there were columns in the Samara, Astrakhan and Omsk regions. A day later, it became clear that the entrants were being held back on both sides of the border. In the places of congestion of those fleeing the mobilization, whom the locals already call "nomads" and simply deserters, small businesses flourished. But these are all, in general, probably the little things of life, and serious problems begin right now, after a few weeks of adaptation, when these people began to steadily fill the local landscape.

The fact is that neither the "frightened Russians", nor local politicians of various scales, and, as it is now clear, the administration of K.-Zh. Tokaeva (Akorda) had no idea what internal and external political processes this migration could trigger.

For migrants, everything seemed simple and clear: we take money, we go to Kazakhstan, which is in the EAEU, we wait. For Kazakhstani liberals of the "Soros call" this became the best, even ideal, way of a kind of trolling of the Kremlin. And so high-quality trolling that a whole information campaign was launched "to help those who fled from the bloody regime." For K.-Zh. Tokaev, in turn, it was important to emphasize “special hospitality for those in trouble” neighbors. The only problem is that this hospitality has had a rather specific connotation in Kazakhstan for more than thirty years.

It is no secret that an important part of the domestic policy of our southeastern neighbors is the issue of de-Sovietization. In each country, this process has its own characteristics and forms. They are, of course, not as radical and unscrupulous as in Ukraine, but not as harmless as some Russian speakers often try to say. In Kazakhstan, de-Sovietization relies on a bunch of “asharshylyk” and “konak” narratives.

"Asharshylyk" is a famine that occurred on the territory of Kazakhstan in 1928-1934. and is officially referred to as "Holodomor". As in Ukraine, this tragedy is presented as a natural manifestation of the cannibalistic essence of Soviet power. The difference from the Ukrainian version is that at the state level the special malice of the Russians in this event is not recognized. However, nationalists more than fill this gap with independent creativity.

“Konak” is a guest, and hospitality in the official ideology is not just a traditional feature of the Kazakhs, but, moreover, a special, even genetic Kazakh feature. And allegedly, it was precisely because of the sacred understanding of hospitality during the Great Patriotic War that the Kazakhs received tens of thousands of immigrants from Central Russia. They accepted refugees from fascism and devastation, in fact, a lot and really sincerely tried to help. But in this case, in terms of ideology, it’s not just that “asharshylyk and konak” stand together - it turns out that the Kazakhs themselves, having suffered from the terrible yoke of Soviet power, accepted refugees from Central Russia, which, with this power, albeit not directly, but associated.

Using these narratives for many years, Kazakhstani information resources also worked out the theses about the “positive aspects of the Soviet period”, “true friendship of peoples”, but under all this lay the main question: “who should be grateful to whom and for what and what is gratitude in general ". Such an ideological link is much more flexible than Ukrainian political mythology. It is very difficult to undermine it in terms of official policy. But she did her job of “making the independence of the Kazakh nation” quite well.

K.-Zh.Tokayev, when the flow of deviators became already concretely palpable, came out with an appeal to help the refugees, since the principle of hospitality is, according to the state ideology, one of the basic and unshakable elements of the state ideology. And those who were and are on Soros feeding supported this with speeches and actions, because it hurts, in their opinion, hit the Kremlin: “I accepted a Russian - I took a machine gun from Putin,” and posts in Telegram were full of the same vein .

Neither the government nor the Sorosites expected that all this would enter into a completely head-on and uncompromising confrontation with the “grassroots” or, as they are also called, “domestic” nationalists, whom the Soros considered for a long time as their reliable support and allies, and K.- J. Tokayev tried not to disturb, because the nationalists never considered the current President of Kazakhstan as "theirs". For Kazakh nationalists, although it sounds very strange to the Russian reader, K.-Zh. Tokaev is a pro-Moscow politician, and he constantly has to prove the opposite, which takes away administrative resources. And the resources are very needed - in November, the largest elections.

Even the speech of K.-Zh. Tokayev at SPIEF-2022, which caused a storm of emotions in the Russian segment, only partly reconciled him with this nationalistically colored segment. Like, "OK, but let's see what's next." They are also distrustful of their half-hearted position on the infamous language issue. Constant retraction of shares of linguistic ultras.

It's no secret that the topic of language in Kazakhstan has been artificially swayed for many years. Not only Russians proper, but also those ethnic Kazakhs who live in the northern regions and work with Russians and in Russian, fall under its rink. And also immigrants to Kazakhstan, repatriates are also ethnic Kazakhs, who are called “oralmans”, and from year to year claims are made against them, they say, how they still have not learned their native language. Often these clashes are much more emotional than between the Russians themselves and the Kazakhs, because there are already more than a million such repatriates.

And now, when, on the one hand, hospitality cherished at the state level, which, as we wrote above, is not just a kind of bond, but one of the ideological foundations, the country is literally flooded with Russian speakers, who, of course, will not be able to learn Kazakh, and they won't try. And to stay and request a residence permit is exactly how refugees, in principle, are capable. That is, the main fear of the Kazakh ultranationalist is coming true - the Kazakhs will be diluted right now by the “orys” (Russians).

Whose Crimea, deserter?


And the nationalists responded with their activities - not to serve in stores without a greeting in Kazakh, not to rent out housing or rent, but at a deliberately astronomical price, not to give work, not to help in institutions. At the border, they began to issue "memos" where it is written that the Russians - historical conquerors and oppressors, what is possible and what is impossible for Russians in Kazakhstan. Flash mobs began on the streets like: “Whose is Crimea, a deserter?”. Many office fugitives were surprised to learn that in the mythology of the Kazakh ultras Omsk, Novosibirsk, Tobolsk, Orenburg, Samara and Astrakhan are ... primordially Kazakh lands and cities, which they are now invited to learn and pronounce as a formula of life, because otherwise case, you can play volleyball "face".

At the initiative of the presidential administration, the prosecutor's office was forced to make an official statement about the inadmissibility of such actions and respect for the principle of hospitality, but the effect turned out to be the opposite. Ultars began to declare in public that K.-Zh.Tokaev still remained in Moscow. And, we repeat, the elections are right on course.

The problem of K.-Zh. Tokaev is that his task in these elections is to turn the entire “hodgepodge” that he dragged into politics this year into a centrist platform. To do this, he is running not only from the base party (Amanat), but also from three other political associations, and goes to the polls with the set set of ideologies, where another pillar is the concept of “Kazakhstan”. The attitude of many ethnic Kazakhs towards Kazakhstanis is approximately the same as that of many Russians towards Russians. It seems to be nothing special: that one is a citizen of Kazakhstan, this one is of Russia. However, in response, many would like to somehow fix their specific national identity. Another thing is that in Kazakhstan all this is expressed more sharply today.

A special role was played with Astana by the fact that in relation to the special military operation, official Kazakhstan took an almost emphatically unfriendly position, which no “formal neutrality” can hide. And all this Soros army, ultras and “wide” Ukrainians who left Ukraine themselves, initially represented one “interest club”, which, with all the current contradictions, can be reunited on practical political demands with a skillful hand. No wonder, because yesterday Crimea, today Donbass and Zaporozhye with Kherson returned to Russia, but what tomorrow? What if Uralsk and Pavlodar want to? This is my favorite associative link since 2014.

As a result, K.-Zh. local authorities. After all, for one attempt to serve free tea to refugees today, there are ten others, when they can simply not fill up the car. There is very little time left before the shadow opposition, based on these moods of the "popular masses", especially, we emphasize, in the south-east of Kazakhstan, does not saddle the electoral processes. In this case, the great “September 90st Plan” runs the risk of not only being a failure, no, of course, but it may have an ambiguous result, due to the fact that not the entire vertical can turn out to be integral in the ideology of the “Kazakhstani”.

Surprisingly for K.-Zh. Tokayev, the Soros and Ukrainians have already become somewhat toxic over the past couple of weeks, as they are rocking the state boat of centrism. What is worth only one episode with the departure and return of the Ukrainian ambassador, who was marked by a completely disgusting Russophobic interview. For a diplomat with Tokayev's experience, such "push-pull" is unacceptable, since it is not his task to strain relations with Russia beyond a certain measure, and he has to take into account the line "from below". This is an extremely uncomfortable situation before the elections.

The author was extremely surprised when he learned that the people went to Kazakhstan in a stream "to hide from mobilization." Here, honestly, they could not find another place, especially at such a political moment in time. On the other hand, they will feel the full negative power of the nationalist ideology, which was not paid attention to for so many years in Ukraine, they took pity on the nationalists in Ukraine, sympathized with them, cursing the “regime” and “fighting the system.” As they say, eat to your health, it’s not a pity, at the same time you will find out who Omsk and Astrakhan were and who was the first person on planet Earth.
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  1. Saboteur_Navy
    Saboteur_Navy 13 October 2022 11: 05
    +3
    The video constantly shows how the Kazakhs beat the Russians and demand to know whose Crimea? This is a mess, something needs to be done about it.
    1. saigon
      saigon 13 October 2022 11: 41
      +10
      Well, who is to blame for this?
      They got rid of mobilization (the question was whether they called the ba or not) and now they have the pleasure of getting lessons from the Kazakhs that it sucks to run away from their country in difficult times.
      1. Saboteur_Navy
        Saboteur_Navy 13 October 2022 12: 45
        +5
        You might think that the Russians living there are not oppressed?
        1. Civil
          Civil 13 October 2022 13: 06
          +2
          1. Judging by the article, the new enemy is Kazakhstan.
          2. Do we have enough resources to open a second front?
          3. And where will the deviationists from Kazakhstan run in the event of the start of the SVO?
          1. nikolaevskiy78
            13 October 2022 16: 22
            +2
            You somehow took and pasted the stamp on the article. The article describes exactly what is in the context of political analysis. There are no sketches on the fan, and you can read my other works.
            1. Civil
              Civil 13 October 2022 17: 48
              +1
              Quote: nikolaevskiy78
              You somehow took and pasted the stamp on the article. The article describes exactly what is in the context of political analysis. There are no sketches on the fan, and you can read my other works.

              If there were no propaganda clichés ... however, maybe I got excited. If I was not correct, please understand and forgive.
              1. nikolaevskiy78
                13 October 2022 18: 01
                +1
                And where did you find propaganda stamps, if not a secret? I'm just wondering what that means.
        2. saigon
          saigon 13 October 2022 13: 09
          +2
          I don’t know in the northern regions for this, from local and Russians and Kazakhs, you can get raked in the buttonhole.
          I am familiar with Kazakhs who cannot speak Kazakh (city guys)
          1. mad big
            mad big 13 October 2022 15: 25
            +2
            Northern Kazakhs are fundamentally different from southern ones. Different people in mentality.
      2. Taimen
        Taimen 13 October 2022 20: 33
        +1
        And why did they "snap" it? Yes, for how many years they have been hung on the ears in all the media that you can live in the "god-like" West, like in Christ's bosom. they themselves are to blame. Apples fall not far from the apple tree. they will be strong, but with the release to the West, as an enemy of the people, Chubais and his comrades.
      3. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 14 October 2022 14: 29
        +1
        Well, who is to blame for this?
        Specific people are to blame for this: Gorbachev M.S. and Yeltsin B.N. Both, unfortunately, died, did not live to see the trial. It is because of them that in the territory of the former USSR, for more than 30 years, a civil war has been going on, now calming down, now flaring up. Capitalism cannot exist normally without nationalism and Nazism, these are one of its tools to control us. In any country. And they are also to blame for the fact that a society of consumers, not patriots, has been brought up. Now the Russian Federation is reaping the fruits of democracy.
        1. Plate
          Plate 15 October 2022 15: 21
          0
          Quote: AKuzenka
          Capitalism cannot exist normally without nationalism and Nazism, these are one of its tools to control us.

          Yes, but in a healthy case, civic nationalism is professed, not ethnic. And I don't see anything wrong with it. And ethnic is absolutely natural and existed before capitalism.
          1. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 16 October 2022 11: 29
            0
            Yes, but in a healthy case, civic nationalism is professed, not ethnic. And I don't see anything wrong with it. And ethnic is absolutely natural and existed before capitalism.
            And what is a healthy case? Nationalism only under capitalism has become a tool for suppressing some in favor of others with all the "charms" - genocide, pogroms, etc. Feudalism, for example, used religious instruments. But the essence was the same.
            1. Plate
              Plate 17 October 2022 08: 51
              +1
              Quote: AKuzenka
              Nationalism only under capitalism has become a tool for suppressing some in favor of others with all the "charms" - genocide, pogroms, etc.

              Among the "etc.", I note, and patriotism, which they like to talk about here on the site and which is a natural derivative of this civic nationalism, in my opinion.
              Quote: AKuzenka
              And what is a healthy case?

              In which "nation" automatically means a political nation, not an ethnic one. In which no one is interested in your genes: only the coat of arms on the passport is interesting. In my opinion, in Russia this is quite healthy.
    2. Zymran
      Zymran 13 October 2022 11: 43
      -1
      In fact, there were no beatings. And on the video they are simply verbally taken out, which is also not good, of course.
    3. Luminman
      Luminman 13 October 2022 11: 51
      -7
      The video constantly shows how Kazakhs beat Russians

      These are not Russians. It's trash...
    4. ARIONkrsk
      ARIONkrsk 13 October 2022 12: 10
      +2
      Quote: Saboteur_Navy
      The video constantly shows how the Kazakhs beat the Russians and demand to know whose Crimea? This is a mess, something needs to be done about it.

      No, let the timid patriots first taste all these charms on themselves, and then ...
      1. Saboteur_Navy
        Saboteur_Navy 13 October 2022 12: 44
        +3
        It is not a fact that they are runaways, it is quite possible that they are citizens of Kazakhstan but Russians
        1. ARIONkrsk
          ARIONkrsk 13 October 2022 12: 59
          -4
          Quote: Saboteur_Navy
          It is not a fact that they are runaways, it is quite possible that they are citizens of Kazakhstan but Russians

          It is necessary to somehow get together and go to Russia to live and receive citizenship, in the Far East they give citizenship, mat help and with work there is a chance that they will help.
      2. gromit
        gromit 13 October 2022 20: 46
        -4
        And then what?
        Will we help, protect or pretend that these are wrong Russians and to hell with them?
  2. Buyan
    Buyan 13 October 2022 11: 07
    +1
    There are nationalists in every country, the family has its black sheep, so to speak. wassat
    It's bad that the authorities of Kazakhstan are flirting with them
    1. ARIONkrsk
      ARIONkrsk 13 October 2022 12: 10
      0
      Quote from Buyan
      There are nationalists in every country, the family has its black sheep, so to speak. wassat
      It's bad that the authorities of Kazakhstan are flirting with them

      Ukraine also flirted at first, the outcome is known.
  3. place
    place 13 October 2022 11: 11
    +10
    We are masters of creating problems and then solving them. It was "three orders of magnitude" easier to restore order in the USSR.
    Even in 1988, the USSR ranked 26th in the ranking of the standard of living in the countries of the world. And now - far after number 50.
    But we preferred to separate first, and then fight among ourselves and figure out who needs whom more. The idiocy of a backward semi-feudal society dictates decisions that are unthinkable for other states. The cost of all previously unimaginable
    somersaults of our policy over the past 30 years is measured in trillions of dollars and millions of lives.
    1. GriggoT
      GriggoT 13 October 2022 12: 00
      -7
      Who determined the standard of living? What are the criteria? With whom do you compare, good sir
      1. Taimen
        Taimen 13 October 2022 20: 45
        -1
        Yes, with the same vile West and the USA, where blacks do not work, but live for free (benefits cannot be compared with our wages from hard workers), where Europe has lived for free for 50 years on cheap gas, coal and other resources supplied cheaply from Russia .Here are all the criteria for you. All the time, we were poked in the face that we need to do the same prices as in the EU and the USA, though salaries and pensions, as in the USSR, were left, not forgetting ourselves dear.
  4. wlkw
    wlkw 13 October 2022 11: 27
    +7
    As they say, the Kazakhs "will teach the Motherland to love!".
    I am even glad that the Kazakhs will drop rose-colored glasses from a certain category of compatriots. And then they only have Russia a prison of peoples and the dictatorship of the evil "Pu ..". And abroad - everything is smeared with honey. But not only, you can take a sip of dermets ....
    Although it is a pity, of course, that this happened with the Kazakhs, I was somehow more friendly towards them. Although they can also be understood, all sorts of "n ..." arrived, they go here ..., it's a sin not to punch their faces in the face, there is still no respect for them.
    And they still have to go back, they will also receive it in a direct or indirect form.
    1. bk0010
      bk0010 13 October 2022 20: 08
      0
      Quote: wlkw
      As they say, the Kazakhs "will teach the Motherland to love!".
      So, they will go further, to Europe. It is problematic to fly out of Russia, so they rushed to the CIS.
      Quote: wlkw
      And they still have to come back
      That is unlikely.
  5. Nikolay Malyugin
    Nikolay Malyugin 13 October 2022 11: 31
    +3
    The headache and problem is the side from which they are fleeing. Mongolia, Georgia, Kazakhstan are not the culprits of the flight from their native country. And instead of thinking about why it happens, we burn ourselves with milk and blow on water.
    1. ARIONkrsk
      ARIONkrsk 13 October 2022 12: 12
      -3
      Quote: Nikolai Malyugin
      The headache and problem is the side from which they are fleeing. Mongolia, Georgia, Kazakhstan are not the culprits of the flight from their native country. And instead of thinking about why it happens, we burn ourselves with milk and blow on water.

      Why is Russia dear to them, they don’t betray their own for nothing, only rotten people.
      1. Nikolay Malyugin
        Nikolay Malyugin 13 October 2022 13: 13
        +2
        Alexander. I don't know the people who fled. But there has not been such an exodus since 1918. This is a bad sign for us. I served on the border during the Soviet era. At that time, either criminals or people who had heard enough of Western propaganda tried to escape. And this was the problem of the Soviet side.
        1. wlkw
          wlkw 13 October 2022 13: 54
          +2
          Yes, a bad sign ...., 30 years of upbringing within the framework of a new ideology is having an effect, now we are disentangling. True, in the old days there was no such freedom of movement as it is now. Well, let them run, we have a lesson and a task for the future. There are places to work.
          1. ARIONkrsk
            ARIONkrsk 13 October 2022 14: 10
            +1
            Quote: wlkw
            Yes, a bad sign ...., 30 years of upbringing within the framework of a new ideology is having an effect, now we are disentangling. True, in the old days there was no such freedom of movement as it is now. Well, let them run, we have a lesson and a task for the future. There are places to work.

            Art. 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. No ideology can be established as a state or mandatory. The Americans did a good job in the 90s, it is not clear why we are so afraid and bow that we did not change this when voting on amendments, because they clearly saw this and kept silent and did not bring this matter to the masses.
            1. your1970
              your1970 14 October 2022 08: 07
              0
              Quote from ARIONkrsk
              It is not clear why we are so afraid and worship that we did not change this when voting on the amendments, because we obviously saw this and kept silent and did not bring this matter to the masses.

              And what ideology do you propose to introduce?
              So that at least half of the population would support it?
              1. ARIONkrsk
                ARIONkrsk 14 October 2022 08: 16
                -1
                Quote: your1970
                Quote from ARIONkrsk
                It is not clear why we are so afraid and worship that we did not change this when voting on the amendments, because we obviously saw this and kept silent and did not bring this matter to the masses.

                And what ideology do you propose to introduce?
                So that at least half of the population would support it?

                I am not a great specialist in this matter, but I think the country is full of quite literate patriotic people who could write it.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 14 October 2022 08: 33
                  0
                  Quote from ARIONkrsk
                  Quote: your1970
                  Quote from ARIONkrsk
                  It is not clear why we are so afraid and worship that we did not change this when voting on the amendments, because we obviously saw this and kept silent and did not bring this matter to the masses.

                  And what ideology do you propose to introduce?
                  So that at least half of the population would support it?

                  I am not a great specialist in this matter, but I think the country is full of quite literate patriotic people who could write it.

                  Since you cannot formulate it, it means that it has not matured (yet or already).
                  Which, in turn, means that she will not come from below, which means that the masses are not sure that they will support her ...
                  So there is not and will not be an official ideology in our Constitution
                2. Plate
                  Plate 15 October 2022 15: 31
                  0
                  Quote from ARIONkrsk
                  I am not a great specialist in this matter, but I think the country is full of quite literate patriotic people who could write it.

                  Well, I'm such an expert wassat And I am ABSOLUTELY sure that the Constitution should spell out the movement of the state to the rise of man through the rejection of the biological base with the transition to silicon, metal, plastic ... That this is our goal. And you would be obliged to obey, because the Constitution says so.
                  And another specialist came and would put fascism on us, hehe. "Long live Putin!", "Long live Victory!" and all those things. And you are again obliged to obey, because you yourself advocated for it, I note.
                  For some reason you just think, I believe, that the ideology will be written in such a way that it is generally consistent with your views. And, I believe, all those who call for the installation of state ideology think so. But in fact, this is far from necessary. No one can even guarantee you that the political views of the majority of the population (on the basis of which ideology should be built) will eventually coincide with yours. That's not a fact at all.
                  Do not open this box. There is a danger that you will not be able to close it.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 13 October 2022 11: 32
    +3
    As a result, K.-Zh.
    . The question is as old as this world!!!
    Where traitors, cowards, runners are loved?
    The answer is obvious.
    1. Jcvai
      Jcvai 13 October 2022 11: 41
      0
      "Love" can be different.
      Such people never become their own, but in the role of "contraceptives" (disposable cheap consumables), ready for a lot to be "accepted" in a new place, they may well be beneficial to the locals.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 October 2022 12: 23
        0
        Everything is clear ... to be a "product" at a time ... this is their choice. No one wants to see such people in their ranks.
  7. place
    place 13 October 2022 11: 37
    +1
    Quote: Saboteur_Navy
    The video constantly shows how the Kazakhs beat the Russians and demand to know whose Crimea? This is a mess, something needs to be done about it.

    Russians are beaten everywhere, but not because the Kazakhs or anyone else are especially bad. And therefore. that the Russians betrayed all the best and fairest and about ..... their country in 1991 .... in the same way, for centuries and for the same reason, they beat the Jews. who are respected today. As far as I understand, in Moscow today there are about 1/3 Russians? Can a good and normal people come to this and put up with such things? Is it possible to respect the people who put up with the plundering of their country? So they beat ..... the morals of the Russians themselves have always been harsh.
  8. certero
    certero 13 October 2022 11: 38
    -1
    In Kazakhstan, nationalism was quite strong during the Soviet Union. It is difficult to say how the president's current attempts to sit down not even on two but on three chairs at once will end. But so far everything is going according to Goebbels' manual. To deprive the people of their history, for example, switching to the Latin alphabet will clearly cut off the old generation from the new one, because it will be difficult to simply read new books to the old generation And read old books to the new one.
  9. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 13 October 2022 11: 45
    -1
    Quote: wlkw
    Although they can also be understood, all sorts of "n ..." arrived, they go here ..., it's a sin not to punch their faces in the face, there is still no respect for them.


    Kazakhs who are not "Natsiks" call them "kotakpas" - a man who has oral sex ...
  10. know
    know 13 October 2022 12: 46
    +16
    Somehow everywhere "neatly" bypass one very delicate issue. Russia has an extremely poor demographic situation. Every year the country loses the population of a large city. And then in a month she lost a million-plus city. Moreover, she lost hundreds of thousands of young healthy men. And, accordingly, hundreds of thousands of Russian women were left without a chance to marry. What are the authorities hoping for? What will Rovshans and Dzhamshuts help? Or will they now disdain Russian women? After all, now they are “white people” who push the Russians around at home. Or will they bring blacks from some Zimbabwe? Here's an interesting country will be in 10 years: in schools there are solid blacks and mulattos! But will this country be Russia? What were our authorities thinking about when they started the NWO? And this mediocre mobilization? How could you lose several potential armies out of the blue? It was impossible to immediately close travel abroad for men at least up to 40 years old? But then the children of the "elite" and Bohemia would not have been able to escape. On the other hand, actually encouraging this mass exodus, apparently, they threw out those who could organize protests abroad - and our authorities are very afraid of this, because people have accumulated a lot of questions to them - everyone, not only piled up. And about the monstrous advice to teachers to "go into business." And about the cynical robbery of working pensioners. And about the dying medicine outside the Moscow Ring Road, because there was no money - they were transferred abroad and saved for "partners" - so that they could arrest them. And about the fake "import substitution", as a result of which it turned out that Russia cannot produce A-4 office paper, women's pads and colored juice cardboard - not like microchips or modern aircraft and cars. And about the liberals in the government and the six deputy prime ministers who fled abroad - what kind of personnel did (and still have) Putin? And on what basis did he choose them? And so on.
    1. nikolaevskiy78
      13 October 2022 13: 18
      0
      I didn't bypass. And right on our site.
      https://topwar.ru/200730-trudovaja-migracija-naskolko-serezen-demograficheskij-krizis-v-rossii.html
      You can’t put all the statistics in the format, but you can see many parameters and trends
    2. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 13 October 2022 17: 53
      +1
      young healthy men
      I read the muzzlebooks of these runners - most of them are married and will move their family to their place in Australia or Europe when they leave the camps. Well, at least they have plans. yes . Some just want to sit out the nix, and then return to Russia. And some people are from there and go almost to their homeland.
      1. nikolaevskiy78
        13 October 2022 18: 08
        +5
        That is, if they have money left by then. However, our neighbors will do their best to help them part with the excess
        "We are damn lucky. Everyone, literally everyone, when they find out that we are going for treasures, sincerely want to help us!"
        m\f "Treasure Island" well Trelawney
  11. place
    place 13 October 2022 15: 19
    0
    Quote: vet
    How could you lose several potential armies out of the blue?

    And so. that for those who command like that - the Russian people vote in all elections for 30 years and recognize the results. And how did you want? Make at least elections today, everyone will yell again; "And for whom else?" And everything will repeat itself ..... And if "for whom else" - then what ..... else do you need?
    1. your1970
      your1970 14 October 2022 08: 13
      +1
      Quote: ort
      Quote: vet
      How could you lose several potential armies out of the blue?

      And so. that for those who command like that - the Russian people vote in all elections for 30 years and recognize the results. And how did you want? Make at least elections today, everyone will yell again; "And for whom else?" And everything will repeat itself ..... And if "for whom else" - then what ..... else do you need?

      And for whom? Is it for Zu?
      ?for Grudinin? For Platoshkin? For Sobchak?
      Oh yeah! Amazing choice, amazing candidates....
  12. Aleprok
    Aleprok 13 October 2022 15: 20
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    Yeah, they don’t go to Ukraine))) although they probably could tell how they don’t like Putin))
  13. faterdom
    faterdom 13 October 2022 15: 37
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    Well, clashes between anti-Putin deserters and anti-Putin soros... uh
    Is Tokaev uncomfortable? Yes, okay.
    And we do not think that this is bad - let them. Both those and those are not Russians in any sense of the word, so for us it is ... well, it seems like Bhutus and Tutsis are at enmity, even better - our enemies are at enmity with each other.
  14. Crisp
    Crisp 13 October 2022 15: 46
    +3
    Quote: Saboteur_Navy
    The video constantly shows how the Kazakhs beat the Russians and demand to know whose Crimea? This is a mess, something needs to be done about it.

    Right. And, the best thing is to ban them from re-entering the house. Leave to be torn to pieces by the increasingly arrogant Natsik Kazakhs. There will be a fifth column of Russians who have survived and recovered their sight. Education with iron rods is the most effective.
  15. Alexander Lomakin
    Alexander Lomakin 13 October 2022 15: 50
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    Hi all! And I was waiting for what day of stay our fellow citizens, so to speak, would open their eyes. And that the current Kazakhs have long been not the Kazakhs who were under the Union. So now, as they say, let them eat with a full spoon! PySy. I myself am from Kazakhstan, I lived in Kustanai for 30 years.
  16. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
    Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 13 October 2022 18: 37
    +3
    If, choosing between the Motherland and shame, you choose shame, then you lose your Motherland, and as a bonus to shame you also get a "lyulea" for a sopatochka!
  17. runway-1
    runway-1 13 October 2022 18: 37
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    The author was extremely surprised when he learned that the people went to Kazakhstan in a stream "to hide from mobilization." Here, honestly, they could not find another place, especially at such a political moment in time. On the other hand, they will feel the full negative power of the nationalist ideology, which was not paid attention to for so many years in Ukraine, they took pity on the nationalists in Ukraine, sympathized with them, cursing the “regime” and “fighting the system.” What is called, eat to your health, it’s not a pity, at the same time you will find out whose Omsk and Astrakhan were and who was the first person on planet Earth
    The choice of "refugees" is of course very ambiguous, but there is a video where they do not complain about the reception ...
    1. nikolaevskiy78
      13 October 2022 19: 00
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      This will depend a lot on the region. The statistics "good / bad" were met, of course, no one keeps. But, objectively, the phenomenon has already entered the agenda in Kazakhstan and Russia, and has become a political factor.
      1. your1970
        your1970 14 October 2022 08: 16
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        Of the 760 citizens of the Russian Federation who left beginning of the year - 730 thousand have already left. Yesterday the numbers came across ...
        So only Kazakhs - citizens of the Russian Federation will stay there
        1. Zymran
          Zymran 14 October 2022 10: 17
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          Kazakhs - citizens of the Russian Federation do not go there, but fight for the Russian Federation, because they were specifically indoctrinated. propaganda.
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    1. nikolaevskiy78
      13 October 2022 23: 01
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      It's not about malice. Our people are not at all evil Pinocchio. It's just that now all these nice people will understand what the mantras of liberal ideologists are worth, about Mordor and Liberal elves. Believe me, it will come to the point that, in rejecting the concept, the Russian will be forced to kneel. Remember BLM. In the same place, not just everyone in the stadiums seemed to stand up in front of the blacks - they took the oath. It only looks like schizophrenia from our screen, but in reality it is an oath. And this was not invented today.
      https://topwar.ru/177393-chto-gotovit-pobeda-grada-na-holme.html
      1. gromit
        gromit 13 October 2022 23: 32
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        That's when they start to spread rot so that they run back, then it will be possible to open their arms, hug the prodigal children, give them a machine gun / saw and send them to the trenches / taiga.
        And until this happens, it is better not to escalate. You can again do it like with major forecasts for NWO.
        Not the most reliable way to bring people back, pouring slop on them and sucking on their misadventures.
        And Russia needs them, yes, yes, they need engineers and IT specialists and doctors, and even, God forgive me, managers of military age.
        Retirees are great guys. Wise, reliable, stable, patriotic, but neither in ..... nor in the National Guard.
        Your writing is good, please write more.
        1. nikolaevskiy78
          13 October 2022 23: 39
          +1
          The article is not about the misadventures of new migrants, you can read about them if you wish in any Cart. An article about migration as a political factor. Nobody deprived them of their passports, if they waste money, they will return. Only probably with a different sense of the concept of "liberalism" in their heads. The fact that they would not pick up gingerbread was personally clear to me from the very beginning, and not only, but they preferred to listen to their liberal gurus. The attitude towards them among the people is understandable and it is hardly necessary to explain that they themselves formed this attitude. And to water with slops or not, let everyone decide for himself.
          1. gromit
            gromit 14 October 2022 00: 18
            -1
            Soryan then, plus.
            Let them check the life of an illegal migrant.
            Maybe then the Motherland will not seem so scary)
            I wound up in vain, there are too many articles in the spirit of not letting go, shooting, planting at the very moment when the Russians need patience and solidarity.
            In the end, everyday Kazakh nationalism can also contribute to Russian unity, when we finally understand that we have no one but each other.
            1. nikolaevskiy78
              14 October 2022 00: 22
              +1
              Well, yes, let the world look from the inside. Look at the positive thoughts in your head.
  19. NG inform
    NG inform 13 October 2022 22: 35
    +2
    Tokayev is playing Yanukovych. Definitely will play. You can not flirt with the Nazis and Soros.
  20. Bayun
    Bayun 13 October 2022 22: 59
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    As one Tajik said: "Strange Soviet power, some kind of Kazakhstan-Uzbekistan DEVELOPED" ... And then he - a professor of history - proved to me that "popularly for the ignorant" ...

    Now we are reaping the fruits of the 19th century, like: "and for some reason took Tashkent" ...

    The Kazakhs will have to be cut off from the Caspian in every possible way, like the U-people from the Black Sea. Re-enter the borders of Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan. Kazakhstan, like Mongolia No. 2, will also be of no interest to anyone.

    And they understand everything perfectly ...

    Just look at the map, who are the military. A blow from country-y and country-k to Stalingrad, and that's it! There is no Russian Black Sea coast, the Caucasus and the Caspian. Previously, he himself would have said: "BRED"! And today, in the light of the country-U - the normal geopolitics of the adversary.
    1. nikolaevskiy78
      13 October 2022 23: 10
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      So they are already locked up in the Caspian Sea, oil supplies go through China or Russia, there will not be enough to carry any fleet to Azerbaijan. And the throughput is weak.
      1. Bayun
        Bayun 13 October 2022 23: 27
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        Nothing like this. We do not need this "branch" of Turkey in the "soft underbelly of Russia". I'm afraid country-K will be 100 times more trouble than country-U...
        1. nikolaevskiy78
          13 October 2022 23: 33
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          The Turks simply do not have enough money for this. Of course, they sing to each other like nightingales about the Great Turan. Only Nazarbayev also asked not to forget that
          "Your ancestors, leaving their historical homeland, from the Turkic Khaganate, took with them the name of the Turkic people. Until now, the Turks call the best horsemen -" Cossack ". Here we are these Kazakhs." He Turks all his time.

          In reality, Turkey and Kazakhstan turned out a very interesting idea tied to the Silk Road - the Chinese are building, Turkish investments are at a minimum, but Turkey provides its own "big big market". As a result, it turned out that Kazakhstan itself is a sales market for Turkish goods. So there are still those Caspian round dances)
          1. Bayun
            Bayun 14 October 2022 00: 33
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            if I were the West, my idea would be as simple as 3 kopecks! Leave the permafrost to the Russians, so that they work there on the oil and gas pumps and ... that’s all.

            Note that we STILL have some kind of LNR-DNR with ambassadors (!!!) and not just the Lugansk REGION and the Donetsk REGION of the Russian Federation ... What the West does not recognize is understandable. What do we NOT RECOGNIZE?
            1. nikolaevskiy78
              14 October 2022 00: 54
              0
              We have porridge, not politics. In fact, only one person sees the model of the world order. The rest are trying to do something or not to do, who and how they see fit. The West is weak in resources, but it is strong in administrative training and procedure. They agree for a long time, but then they do everything as prescribed. In our country, everything is managed only at face value, but on the ground, as God sends. Therefore, the resources are large, but disgustingly managed. Therefore, the West makes the mistake of thinking that for them the long-term war in Ukraine is an ambush, it is a problem for us. I once calculated the reaction to foreign policy challenges - an average lag of 5 months. These are responses to "unfriendly steps". Well, imagine that we are one-man management, and they overtake us in terms of the speed of steps in a team of 27 EU countries + USA + Britain + Australia + Canada
              1. Bayun
                Bayun 14 October 2022 12: 10
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                "Russia is great, but there is no order in it" ... I agree. The West has mastered Network Management, and we are still "vertical".

                Perhaps the network for Russia is death. But such is the challenge of the times. Super task for indecent-smart.
                1. nikolaevskiy78
                  14 October 2022 12: 19
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                  Network management in Russia will take root very hard, because here it is very difficult to work according to the principle "they said at the top", and the top again says "they said at the top", and there again "the top". Who decided how they decided, whether they really said - do not get to the bottom. There will be political scientists on TV tearing their voices, telling what the great plan really was. Administratively, it turns out that the management seems to be one-man, but in fact irresponsible. Comfortable. Therefore, for such a "way of life" will cling to the last.
                  1. Bayun
                    Bayun 14 October 2022 16: 27
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                    I agree, if you introduce a network in Russia, then 100500 levels of superiors will immediately become superfluous. Well, how will the regional Network Control Center be smarter than the Network Center? This is a full guard.
  21. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 13 October 2022 23: 08
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    and over the years, Kazakhstani information resources have also worked out theses on the “positive aspects of the Soviet period”, “true friendship of peoples”
    Can you give examples of something similar?
    1. nikolaevskiy78
      13 October 2022 23: 18
      0
      I apologize in advance for the long example)
      Friendship of peoples is the basis of people's life (https://adyrna.kz/post/12993)

      The word "Dostyk" - "friendship" is probably one of the very first words that appeared in the Kazakh language. And hardly anyone would be surprised that if it was the same in other languages. Because many life issues are solved by those who give this concept the meaning it deserves.

      And the President of the country, Nursultan Nazarbayev, was right when he said in his message to the people of Kazakhstan: “It is the concept of “Friendship” that is the basis of peaceful life. We are all Kazakhstanis with equal rights and equal opportunities. We are a multinational society. And there should be no double standards in the issue of interethnic relations. Everyone should be equal in the state. There should be no good or bad on ethnic or other grounds.” I think in Kazakhstan everyone would subscribe to these words.

      Friendship as one of the most important spiritual rules of the Kazakh people has very deep roots. The ancestors of the Kazakhs, who in ancient times were called Saks, the Scythians treated friendship between people very carefully.

      The scientist of ancient times, Lucian, left a story about the strong friendship of two Saxon warriors Dandamid and Amizok. During the battle, the enemies captured Amizok. And then he loudly called for help to his friend Dandamid. In the lull between the battles, Dandamid came to the camp of opponents and demanded the return of a friend. The enemy commander asked: What are you willing to do for your friend? Then the proud Dandamid answered: I am ready to fulfill any of your demands. Then he was asked: Are you ready to give your eyes for a friend? Dandamid agreed without hesitation.

      Amizok returned home holding the hand of his friend Dandamid, who for the sake of his freedom lost his eyes. The people greeted them enthusiastically, and arranged a great feast in their honor. The enemies, having learned about this, realized that it was impossible to defeat such a strong-willed people, and immediately retreated.

      The tradition of treating such a spiritual value as friendship has been passed down from generation to generation. The writer Azilkhan Nurshaikhov in the book "Aqiqat pen anyz" - "Truth and Legend", gave a vivid example of friendship on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War. Here is the story of the hero of the book, the legendary batyr Baurzhan Momyshuly, about friendship at the forefront of the Great Patriotic War: “There were seven regiments in divisions. Four of them were order bearers. My deputy was from our Kazaly, a descendant of Russian fishermen, Hero of the Soviet Union, Guards Colonel Gennady Fadeevich Shlyapin. He spoke Kazakh fluently. Shlyapin called me, according to the Kazakh custom, aha-elder brother, and his aksakal.

      When I read these lines, I took from the bookcase the second volume of the book "Heroes of the Soviet Union" published in 1988 in Moscow. It was written there that Gennady Vasilyevich Shlyapin was born in 1922, originally from Kazaly, which is located in the Kyzylorda region. The book is also written about his exploits. The Kazakh batyr lived in Kazaly and Tashkent after the war. He died in 1970.

      One of the front-line friends of the legendary batyr Baurzhan Momyshuly was the People's Writer of Kazakhstan Dmitry Snegin. Dmitry Fedorovich wrote a wonderful book about his friend "Arysym edi-au, Bauyrzhan". This publication was included in the list of socially significant by the Ministry of Culture. This book can rightfully be perceived as a book that has made a great contribution to the friendship of the peoples not only of Kazakhstan.

      Dmitry Fedorovich was a man of a wide soul, he loved the Kazakh people very much. I was lucky enough to meet this man of an open soul in 1980 in the city of Shvmkent. Then we met and corresponded more than once. Once, when a writer made a gift inscription for me in his book, I said: “Dmitry Fedorovich, I have a one-year-old son, would you please write him your grandfather’s wish?” - grandfather. And then he said to me: - I will write a letter to your son. And so, on October 1994, 17, my wife and I received a letter from Dmitry Fedorovich addressed to our son. The letter written on one page was very deep in content. He wrote meaningful words to my son: “You did not come into this world by chance. To achieve your goal, you must become a batyr. Honor the Aruahs of your ancestors and respect your elders.” The letter is actually long, I conveyed only the essence. My son graduated from university and works in Almaty. The letter of the People's Writer of Kazakhstan is kept in our house as a relic. Thus Dmitry Fedorovich Snegin took a great part in the upbringing of my son.

      In 1972, a scientist from Shymkent, candidate of philological sciences Asilkhan Ospanuly published an article “Kazygurt kyrany” - “Falcon from Kazgurt” on the pages of the newspapers of our republic, where he proved that the father of the hero Omarkul is Kazakh, and his mother Baharaim is the daughter of the Uzbek people. Although for a long time it was believed that the Hero of the Soviet Union, Major General Sabir Rakhimov, was Uzbek by nationality. The public received this news with enthusiasm. Only government officials did not want to notice that the scientist wrote "Hero of the Soviet Union Sabir Rakhimov is the son of two fraternal peoples." These bureaucrats decided that such news would harm the durzhba between the Kazakh and Uzbek peoples. And among the representatives of the Uzbek people there were people who correctly perceived this news. For example, the great Uzbek dancer Tamara khanum, in an interview with the Yegemen Kazakhstan newspaper, talking about the centuries-old friendship of our peoples, proudly cited the example of the fate of General S. Rakhimov. She said that the father of General S. Rakhimov was Kazakh and his mother was Uzbek. And that in childhood, the future Hero of the Soviet Union grew up with relatives on his mother's side, in the city of Tashkent.

      The great Kazakh poet Kadyr Myrza Ali in the book “Iirim” - (Whirlpool) gave an interesting information that could be an example for many: “In August 1977, a group of Kazakh writers went to Ufa. The most joyful event on this trip for me was the acquaintance with a longtime friend of our country - the writer Saifi Kudash. We communicated with him like a son with a father. And the most important thing in our meeting was that - he told me about the Kazakh poet Magzhan, who became a victim of Stalin's repressions. It turns out that S. Kudash wrote a book of memoirs, where he took Magzhan's poems as an epigraph. At that time in Kazakhstan it was not even allowed to pronounce the name of the disgraced poet aloud. And in Bashkortostan, Saifi Kudash in those years tried to restore the good name of the poet. He even wrote a letter of appeal to the government of the USSR. He sent the same letter addressed to D. Kunaev in Almaty. The fact that the good name of Magzhan returned to native literature is a great merit of Saifi Kudash.

      There are many similar examples of friendship between peoples in Kazakhstan. One of the famous creative personalities of our country was the writer Maurice Simashko (real name - Shamis). The film "Sultan Baybars" based on his work "Yemshan" is one of the most popular today. When attacks against representatives of Jewish nationality were made in one of the neighboring countries, he wrote an open letter to the Nobel Prize winner Zhores Alferov, where he pointed out that representatives of all peoples are respected in Kazakhstan, and gave a vivid example. Here is what he wrote: “Recently, the Kazakh pen club nominated me for the Nobel Prize in Literature. I didn't agree to this for three years. And agreed because in itself it is indicative. If a Turkic-Muslim country today nominates a Russian Jewish writer for the highest award, ... it means that, in spite of everything, something is radically changing in the world.” The letter of the writer Maurice Simashko was published in the newspaper Vremya on December 28, 2000.

      Indeed, the fact that the one who was the first to be nominated for a world-famous prize among Kazakh writers was Maurice Simashko, whose father is Jewish and his mother is German, is a very vivid example of respect for a person in our country, no matter what nationality he is. In Kazakhstan, everyone is equal.

      My friend, doctor of historical sciences Mukhtar Kozha told me an interesting story. It turns out that once on the train, his fellow travelers were Meskhetian Turks. They told how they arrived in Kazakhstan. This happened in those years when, by decision of the Soviet government, the deported peoples, including the Meskhetian Turks, were forced to leave their native places for Kazakhstan. The journey was very long and they endured many hardships. When they arrived in Kazakhstan, the Kazakhs, despite the fact that it was very difficult for themselves, accepted them as their loved ones, took them to their house and shared everything they had. Remembering the hardships of those years, the Meskhetian Turks wept. Now the Meskhetian Turks consider Kazakhstan their homeland, and the Kazakhs their relatives. When they talked about it, they cried again.

      For many years, Nadezhda Vasilievna Kutnyakova lived in the city of Shymkent, which is located in the south of Kazakhstan. After graduating from the Shymkent Pedagogical Institute, she began working as a teacher at her native institute. Over time, she got married. Her husband is Kazakh and the children know their native Kazakh and several other languages. Nadezhda Vasilievna has always claimed that she loves the Kazakh people without limit.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 14 October 2022 05: 57
        +2
        it's all?!
        the same site but not 18 years old but today
        Friends, after our request for assistance to Ukraine, we receive a lot of applications, medicines, things, food, and so on.
        Kazakhstanis sincerely empathize with the Ukrainian people. More than 30 million tenge have already been received on the accounts that we published as part of the El Bolashagy civil initiative from ordinary citizens.
        From tomorrow, we will additionally send money to the Polish charitable foundation, which was given to us by the Embassy of Ukraine in Poland.
        The whole of Kazakhstan is anxiously watching and worrying about the fraternal Ukrainian people. Hold on, the whole world is on your side!

        the main statement about "friendship" was made by the former president, we were robbed all the time and we only got dust from under Russian boots
        https://adyrna.kz/ru/post/105225
        1. nikolaevskiy78
          14 October 2022 11: 38
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          Both ours and yours. The development of one thesis of the information agenda for one wing does not at all cancel the fact that tomorrow they will work out the thesis for the wing of the other. It just doesn't surprise me.

          As for "and that's all" - do you propose to make a selection of quotes and sources? It is possible, but then the question is - how much will be enough? I just took one of the brightest.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 14 October 2022 13: 04
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            it’s just that if I post anti-Russian statements in the media of the Republic of Kazakhstan, then believe me, there will be orders of magnitude more
            Quote: nikolaevskiy78
            The development of one thesis of the information agenda for one wing does not at all cancel the fact that tomorrow they will work out the thesis for the wing of the other.

            the problem is that the Nazis are like their own, but the Russians are so long as they are needed, and after that it will be possible under the knife
            Your mistake is that you consider the top of the RK to be equidistant from both from some and from others, in fact it is not
            1. nikolaevskiy78
              14 October 2022 13: 37
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              There will be more, so the point is not that there is more of one and less of the other, but that such an agenda has been worked out.

              Power is usually on its own, and then there are administrative swings - not which part of the people we rely on today, on which tomorrow. We hold on to some, we promote others, then vice versa. In the media, this looks like a struggle between good and evil, although these are simply attempts, sometimes too obvious, to ensure control over the flock. So far, Astana believes that they are following the "centric" path. Can they miss the nationalists? Yes they can. This is not out of the question.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 14 October 2022 14: 02
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                Quote: nikolaevskiy78
                In the media, it looks like a fight between good and evil.

                in the media, it looks like we are still holding the Nazis on a leash, but we can let them go
                1. nikolaevskiy78
                  14 October 2022 14: 20
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                  Exactly. The only question is that this is a feeling that is given out by the media of a certain kind, it is not that false - half-hearted. Another big question is how much they can control the elements. It's one thing to try to demonstrate, it's another to actually manage. I gave one example in the article when they thought that the thesis "Adopted a Russian - took away a machine gun from Putin" would work. As a result, the opposite worked in Kazakhstan. Therefore, the big question is who and how will be able to control the elements there. As long as everyone thinks that they are in control of something, there yeast can ferment in its own way. They are already wandering.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 14 October 2022 14: 38
                    -1
                    once again, the problem is in the primacy, the Russians in the Republic of Kazakhstan, however, in other republics of the SA, this is not a support of power, as you say, but hostages, but the Nazis are to some extent a support
                    primacy is what is important, and primacy is cave nationalism eventually turning into Nazism
                    1. nikolaevskiy78
                      14 October 2022 14: 56
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                      So what is a support? As voters, they are not excluded from the algorithm. Moreover, for the centrist platform of the same Tokayev, they should not be deleted from the algorithm. And part of the administrative apparatus has a different opinion and creates conditions for them to leave. Thus, solving policy issues at their own level and according to their own understanding. I’m not an apologist for Tokayev, it’s just that if you build a centrist platform, which he does, then the nationalists will have to be their own and don’t forget the prescribed words about “friendship of peoples”, konak, dostyk and in general - we are all Cozakstandyk.
                      It's a living process, not a paper one. For many years, the Russian population of Kazakhstan, despite all the “dostyk”, votes with their feet and not in large numbers, but regularly travels to Russia. Those who are smarter and more experienced in Astana understand with their brains that if the process takes on a completely mass character, then they will simply be crushed by southerners. Not everyone wants to repeat the fate of a number of emigrants. Therefore, Tokayev will push the centrist platform, we will see how much he manages to control this process at the bottom of the administration. Elections are coming soon and it will be clear whether he will be able to hold the center in municipalities and regions or not. If he can't, then we'll write a new article about how much time we have until Astana goes completely nationalistic.
  22. Alexander Lomakin
    Alexander Lomakin 14 October 2022 10: 33
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    By the way, for those who did not know - Topvar is a blocked site in Kazakhstan. How many times I threw off links to Kazakhstani forums, they say that they do not open.
    1. Zymran
      Zymran 14 October 2022 11: 07
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      Yes, it is, you have to use vpn. But we must also add that there used to be a lot of people from Kazakhstan here, but almost all of them were banned long ago.
  23. Covid
    Covid 14 October 2022 10: 43
    -2
    If everyone in Russia were Patriots, then there would be no one to write comments. Everyone would be at the front. And so everyone has their own way to shirk the service.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 14 October 2022 13: 06
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      Quote: Covid
      Everyone has their own way of getting out of service.
      are you talking about your favorite?
      1. Covid
        Covid 14 October 2022 14: 33
        -2
        I don't belong to either side. Are you writing to me from the front? How awkward it gets. Before checking others for lice ....
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 14 October 2022 15: 45
          -1
          you decided to check everyone for lice, it didn’t work out, they started to get out
  24. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 14 October 2022 11: 39
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    Quote: nikolaevskiy78
    The article describes exactly what is in the context of political analysis

    Excellent article.
    Competent, but a little naive analysis of Tokaev's "work".
    This figure looks only in one direction, and this is not Russia.
    Surprisingly, in response to the oppression of the Russians, only the thin voice of Zakharova was heard from our side.

    I wonder if US citizens were also "tested" in Mexico, how long would the government there, and indeed the state itself, last?

    You can not change our compatriots for geopolitical gesheft.
    Receiving benefits and betraying people, you show the whole world your attitude towards the people

    History shows that defending the interests of its citizens abroad, the country receives many times more than with sluggish "concern" from the mouths of diplomats.
    1. nikolaevskiy78
      14 October 2022 11: 49
      +1
      Thanks for the rating, albeit controversial). I have already published a lot of materials about Tokayev's policy. In fact, you yourself answered the question - Tokayev's policy is determined by the capabilities and goal-setting of major players. If large players leave gaps for multi-vector creativity, then they are filled by Kazakhstan rather quickly. Whether this is good or bad, again, depends on the goal-setting of the big players. In one case, the process may be neutral, in the other dangerous. And the fact that Kazakhstan fills such gaps automatically is not surprising.
  25. ivan2022
    ivan2022 16 October 2022 15: 20
    -1
    Quote: GriggoT
    Who determined the standard of living? What are the criteria? With whom do you compare, good sir

    Do you have access to the network? There is. The ratings are compiled by international organizations. Including the UN. You have to be a little stupid to ask about the "criteria" that suit the governments of the countries of the world. The Government of the Russian Federation recognizes the "criteria", but do you need a separate explanation?

    I just don't like it terribly when each ....... begins to break out of itself "authority." And there is something to demand ......
    Get in line!!