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The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev 23 October 2012

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History with hijabs in the Stavropol school is worth it to return to it. Moreover, the whole world practice says that this topic is not so easily resolved. Especially after the Minister of Education intervened in it with the grace of a rhinoceros.

"This absolutely did not contradict the school rules, nor, in principle, general norms, and I think that in the future we will certainly create the necessary conditions for preventing, for preventing such conflicts," said Dmitry Livanov.

Not according to the rank of a tolerant minister, as if to say so, the president corrected.

"We have a multi-confessional state, but there is a certain general rule of a secular state - we have a church separated from the state. If we allow somewhere to move in the other direction, then I will carefully ask you to listen: we have almost 80 and more percent of people who formally or informally refer themselves to Orthodoxy, which means that, in fact, if everyone is not equal and will not show the secularism of our state, representatives of all other, even traditional, religions will in one way or another in the near future tvovat uschemlonnymi himself better let all feel equal, "-. Vladimir Putin said.

Here there were no hijabs. And suddenly - once, and how about the team ?! Not wearing a hijab is a matter of itself. The fact is that the hijab is a tool. This is a policy tool. So it was everywhere. And in Europe. And everyone understands this perfectly.

The fact is that radical political Islam is very fond of democracy and tolerance. When it comes to the so-called "minority rights protection". As in the well-known saying: "We support tolerance, but we do not practice." What is a right, an opportunity, for members of a community, becomes a duty.

Hijab is a sign, a way to indicate identity, so that you can impose this identity with all your own. This is a way to organize closed communities, separate reservations, in which you can impose your rules. And not only behavioral, but also political. This number will not work. As for the sore theme of respect for different rules and traditions.

Recently, the popular topic of respect from migrants for our cultural traditions has become particularly acute in connection with the famous cases of wedding shooting in the air in Moscow and some other Russian cities. The public demanded tougher penalties.

True, in the course of the process it turned out that not only Caucasians were shooting, but even Russians in general were quite well enough. As for respect for customs and traditions. Here is the question: what traditions? When you first spoil in the temples, and then the public, who consider themselves the conscience of the nation, defenders the breastfeed, these traditions should be respected ?!

From the film "Prisoner of the Caucasus"
- And then on the ruins of the chapel ...
- Excuse me, did I ruin the chapel too?
- No, it's up to you, in the 14 century.
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  1. sv-sakh
    sv-sakh 24 October 2012 09: 34
    +30
    They condemned Europe so much with their false tolerance .. and here on you on the same rake and all your own, swimming with fat, face ...
    Minorities screaming about infringement, use this cry to infringe on the majority and this should not be allowed.
    Do not play on the nerves of society ... And so lately, on the basis of racial-ethnic values, there is a lot of tension.
    Former friends, after the collapse of the USSR, literally expelled and survived Russians from their lands, and now they are doing the same by dictating their rights at our place.
    Once they have come to us, then let them behave as they have become established in society, and do not like it — by plane home ...
    The trial of the guns and the indictment - they have already made it clear that freedom of speech and freedom of action are good, but within reasonable limits. Violators will be punished.
    Shooting in the air is not a tradition at all, according to the same Kadyrov, but simply hooliganism, which must also be punished.
    All this bacchanalia is happening together with the pompous renaming of the police to the police ... The crisis of the law enforcement system is what it is.
    1. sv-sakh
      sv-sakh 24 October 2012 10: 06
      +8
      I’ll supplement myself:
      Especially in Russia, where the followers of radical Islamism and bandits disguised as Islam seized schools, hospitals, blew up the metro, etc.
      Now allow partial wear or a cavity covering the face?
      In society, mistrust and fear of Islam and people professing Islam in Russia still need to try to prove that Islam is not dangerous, but act on the contrary ...
      People look in disbelief at people in similar clothes ... They shy, look around ... And who is to blame? Russians?
      1. Pit
        Pit 24 October 2012 10: 29
        +7
        So the problem is that they don’t even try to show Islam a lot
        on the positive side. I don’t remember who said it, but the text is about
        next: "I am not saying that every Muslim is a terrorist, but every
        Muslim terrorist that's for sure "
        1. Ross
          Ross 24 October 2012 12: 17
          +5
          Pit,

          That is why religious disputes must be removed from politics, as the president-Russia secular state correctly said. The enemies of Russia are just waiting to find a clue to sow confusion.
          1. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 24 October 2012 14: 15
            +1
            Correctly respected plus to you!
      2. Saracen
        Saracen 24 October 2012 10: 54
        -14
        Have you ever wondered why the Muslims have committed terrorist attacks over the past few years? And while some of them explode several times a year. Some kind of terminators.
        And it is calculated by the authorities and their media to create enmity and hatred.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 24 October 2012 12: 21
          +6
          And it is calculated by the authorities and their media to create enmity and hatred.


          I agree, the authorities and the media, but only Western, liberal, democratic !!!!! am
        2. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 24 October 2012 14: 20
          +3
          You would be a boy at sebe’s in Nida’s hometown with Magyrama Thai Bendery’s people, and you and I would be naughty with our Russian Muslims, without any snotty ones. Less tobi saratsynchik.
          1. Saracen
            Saracen 24 October 2012 15: 26
            -5
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            Less tobi saratsynchik.

            Yes, at least put a hundred and pour out gallstone will not help.
            1. cherkas.oe
              cherkas.oe 25 October 2012 00: 59
              0
              So you, son of an encore, "mistech", so I bach the horns of the tebe to grow.
          2. Cynic
            Cynic 24 October 2012 17: 28
            +1
            Quote: cherkas.oe
            Less tobi saratsynchik.

            Friend yeah Saracen he earns his skull on epaulettes! And you help him.
            drinks
        3. karbofos
          karbofos 24 October 2012 14: 38
          +2
          saracin - squirrel should be treated fool
          1. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 25 October 2012 12: 16
            0
            karbofos,
            Quote: kalbofos
            Foreman
            Offline
            karbofos (1) RU Yesterday, 14:38 ↑
            - 2 +
            saracin - squirrel should be treated

            This is not a squirrel, but (7B), and it is not treated.
    2. master_rem
      master_rem 24 October 2012 10: 56
      +4
      but do not like it - by plane home ...
      I just want to add "- .. or a stage in Oymyakon"
    3. Joker
      Joker 24 October 2012 13: 21
      +6
      And here is the latest news.
      Several streets of Moscow will be blocked on Friday, 26 October, in connection with the events of the Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha. It is reported by Interfax with reference to the metropolitan city hall.

      The traffic will be blocked in the Central Administrative District from 00: 00 to 16: 00 in the area of ​​the Cathedral Mosque (on the section of Schepkina street from Sadovaya-Sukharevskaya street to Samarskaya street; on the section of Gilyarovsky street from Durov street to Kapelsky lane; on the section of Durov street from the avenue Peace to Olympic Avenue). In addition, the movement of trams along the streets of Durov and Schepkin will be closed. The movement will also be blocked in the area of ​​the Historical Mosque (on the Bolshaya Tatarskaya Street section from Bolshaya Tatarsky Lane to Sadovnichesky Lane; Stary Tolmachevsky Lane; Maly Tatarsky Lane; Ozerkovsky Lane; Vishnyakovsky Lane).

      Also, if necessary, traffic will be limited in the northeastern administrative district on the site of Khachaturian Street from Kargopolskaya Street to Sannikova Street.

      Again, the sheep will be cut at each corner, as much as possible already!?!?!
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 24 October 2012 14: 06
        -2
        Well, what would you like a mess to accompany this holiday? Or kick them out to celebrate outside of Moscow? Where then is our Russian tolerance and traditional hospitality. And that you react so nervously, as if your avatar is not a grizzly, which is associated with BALU, but the lesser of Sherkhan’s friends.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 24 October 2012 20: 01
          +1
          Tolerance to what? Is Moscow going to be paralyzed again? People will not be able to get home or work, neither an ambulance nor a fire truck will be able to do? Are we to do with it, or are we already guests at home? Are you in Grozny or arrange such a thing in Makhachkala ........... I will look at you with interest ...........
        2. serjio777
          serjio777 24 October 2012 20: 56
          0
          cherkas.oe
          Where then is our Russian tolerance and traditional hospitality

          And some of the inhabitants of Africa, let's say that it is quite possible, there is a custom to slaughter some kind of little man from the "outsiders". Suppose they are here and want to cheer? Don't want to be the main course?
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 24 October 2012 21: 01
            0
            This is called not tolerance, but humility ...... And our guests are perceived as cowardice ..........
          2. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 25 October 2012 00: 44
            0
            Dear fellow citizens, you’re getting into hysteria, what a fright, you still imagine that the Martians will come to you and begin to drink blood from you and bite off your ears. And the victim has never been and never will be. And I do not advise you. Behave with dignity. Congratulate the celebrants on the holiday, and if celebrating they go beyond the decency accepted in our society, then take measures or personally explain to people of another faith that they are wrong or call for help those who think like you, well, if they all fled, then either run too if the gut is thin or stand your ground and wait for help. That’s just the only way, we won’t put things in order in our country. Dear you are my serjio777
      2. karbofos
        karbofos 24 October 2012 14: 44
        +1
        Joker- they have the main mosque there, let it be better to gather and pray in one place than throughout the city. Near Poklonnaya Gora there is also a mosque, estimate if there will begin to cut rams near the monuments to our ancestors. I would not want that.
      3. Baron Wrangell
        Baron Wrangell 24 October 2012 16: 34
        +5
        Quote: Joker
        Again, the sheep will be cut at each corner, as much as possible already!?!?!

        The worst thing about this is that they are cutting in the city of sheep, INTENTIONALLY! to shit on us. Although you can cut them, if such a custom, and outside the city, and in other places. Why do we on holy days do not block the hives in the same Grozny, Kazan, or in other cities where Muslims live. By the way, on Eid al-Adha they should treat everyone, but I don’t remember something that they would treat!
        I live in a region where there are many Muslims, but something we don’t block the streets near mosques, and they do not cut sheep in the yards!
      4. Aventurinka
        Aventurinka 24 October 2012 16: 39
        +1
        Quote: Joker
        Again, the sheep will be cut at each corner, as much as possible already!?!?!

        Directly in Moscow, this is officially prohibited.
    4. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 24 October 2012 13: 43
      +1
      You, dear detail from the scorpion, are probably not in the subject? The people who started the cheese boron in the Stavropol Territory, the indigenous people of those places most likely the Kumyks or Nagays did not come to us from anywhere and there was nowhere to send them, but to look closely and find out who decided to raise this hip-hop, it is up to the relevant authorities and Muslim leaders of this region Of Russia. About pusek and about shooting, I agree with you.
  2. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov 24 October 2012 09: 38
    +8
    Hijab is an instrument of politics ... Politics in the state is determined by the president. Why the hell did a minister of education decide to stick his nose into the national policy of the state ... I think he needs to be given a "black mark", and the prime minister too ... The prime minister is fully responsible for the actions of his subordinates ... To hell with Western tolerance, it's time to strengthen the state ...
    1. alexng
      alexng 24 October 2012 09: 58
      +4
      For this, it is necessary to support those who defend our statehood and do not play in democracy, trying to stop permissiveness.
    2. skullcap
      skullcap 24 October 2012 10: 01
      +9
      I agree. And the president in this situation is not enough that he verbally corrected the man accidental as minister ..
      It is necessary - it is necessary - that this close person is urgently removed from this post due to incompatibility of the position held.
    3. Goldmitro
      Goldmitro 24 October 2012 12: 38
      +11
      It should be noted that the hijabs and others that are being imposed on society now
      Islamic customs, as they say, "legs grow" from the Arab countries of Saudi Arabia, Iran, far from us, as if the peoples of Russia, preaching Islam for centuries, do not have their own traditions and their Islam is "not faithful" and Arab emissaries and preachers are required to introduce the "true" Islam with its attributes and traditions. Aggressive Islam (Wahhabism), which is now being actively introduced in Russia, is primarily directed against, if I may say so, local "Russian" Islam and the tradition it has developed over the centuries - tolerance for another faith, the peaceful coexistence of Islam with other religions. There is no need to explain why this is done. The goal is the destruction of Russia!
      1. DIMS
        DIMS 24 October 2012 12: 39
        +6
        In many ways you are right. Just look at the statistics of the killings of imams by Islamic extremists.
      2. Baron Wrangell
        Baron Wrangell 24 October 2012 16: 38
        +2
        Quote: Goldmitro
        Aggressive Islam (Wahhabism), which is now being intensively introduced in Russia, is primarily directed against, if I may say so, local "Russian" Islam and the tradition it has developed over the centuries - tolerance for another faith, the peaceful coexistence of Islam with other religions

        now finally a normal koment, right, a hijab is an instrument, by the way, girls, schoolgirls do not have to wear it. and
        and yet, the Old Believers - women are also obliged to cover their heads, sent too, so that in response to their hijabs, we will put Pavloposad shawls on girls of schoolgirls! smile
    4. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 24 October 2012 14: 10
      -1
      Do you remember the name of this minister? Have you heard him speak? Then what is it about.
  3. volcano
    volcano 24 October 2012 09: 40
    +6
    Hello everyone.

    Ay-ah ..... it looks like a Muslim card starts playing out sooner than I expected ...

    It is necessary to react immediately and harshly ........ Either we are a SECOND or ORTHODOX state, but then be in trouble.
    1. Joker
      Joker 24 October 2012 10: 09
      +2
      Yes, for a long time it is necessary to transmit this rot, until it finally sat on the neck and legs did not hang.
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 25 October 2012 01: 24
        0
        Joker,
        How old are you? He’s clubfoot, would he take off the skin and whip in places where his legs grow to break, so that he grows wiser.
  4. Hippopotamus
    Hippopotamus 24 October 2012 09: 46
    +6
    The eternal desire of the cattle to exchange individuality for a warm stall is an excellent lever for manipulating the consciousness of the masses. Any attempts to influence through education is an empty exercise, and often with a backlash. In the absence of a real "whip", one can only hope that there would be as few cattle among the "minorities" as possible.
  5. Castor oil
    Castor oil 24 October 2012 09: 48
    +8
    So it’s true - if you don’t stop these hijab creeps now, then the matter will come to pushing the sharia, and not only in schools.
  6. Captain Vrungel
    Captain Vrungel 24 October 2012 10: 17
    +11
    How to disagree. that "religion is opium for the people" in our day. When faith is used in politics. The church should be outside the state. It is not limited by the borders of one state, but is obliged to honor and respect the laws of the country of its parishioners.
    The hijab is a subtle oriental cunning of the Islamists to check for "lice". It will pass, it means we will still promote something of our own. And they are promoting that instead of Christian churches mosques and minarets will rise.
    In schools, a uniform must be established that is uniform for all. You want your children to wear a hijab, a green banner in the hands and country of co-religionists.
    Thus, all the currents of Islam in the Christian, Orthodox land are slowly, cynically and insidiously spreading. Religion is politics and very insidious.
  7. Aventurinka
    Aventurinka 24 October 2012 10: 28
    +14
    It is strange that the story was untwisted, but that it was already legally completed (by the way, not badly completed) were not indicated.
    The prosecutor’s office of the Neftekumsky district of the Stavropol Territory put an end to the conflict over a rural school in Kara-Tyube, whose director forbade Muslim girls from attending hijab shawls. Prosecutors conducted an audit and established that there was secular education in Russia, so wearing religious clothes at school is contrary to the Constitution. However, five teachers will still be punished - precisely because they did not initially suppress the “Islamization” of the school.

    Read on: http://izvestia.ru/news/538131#ixzz3q9RxT0tl
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 24 October 2012 10: 48
      +5
      thanks for the info. honestly did not know.
      1. Aventurinka
        Aventurinka 24 October 2012 11: 12
        +2
        So it surprised me ... DTV was in the picture, even the fact that the nationalists took the director under protection and gave her lawyers, it was said ... But this is still silent ...
        And the most interesting thing is that in some versions of this news in a nationalist (conditionally youth) environment, this, in principle, good news, was presented in a completely different light.
        The Stavropol prosecutor’s office, after the statement of the offended parents and the mufti, considered that five school employees who forbade girls to appear in hijab classes should be punished with disciplinary action, but the school principal ignored this requirement.

        The site is so-so, if a good antivirus - you can verify the link http://www.blacktree.ru/?p=144
        Everything is somehow muddy ...
        1. Joker
          Joker 24 October 2012 11: 21
          +2
          Julia, so we have such media request you come in to read something and then a bucket of slop on you, they need sensations and scandals, so they will unscrew everything everywhere so that at the time to buy a rope with soap smile it would be necessary to introduce some kind of articles on this matter, so that they spread the verified information without distortion, this slag is already tired smile thanks for the info by the way love
  8. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 24 October 2012 10: 41
    +4
    The problem of our power is very clearly visible here, the problem is that it does not act, but only speaks. And in the language you won't go far. To find out how to solve this problem, specifically the problem, you just need to ask yourself the question "-What would Comrade Stalin do in this situation?" I give three hundred against one, the situation would be resolved instantly and as efficiently as possible so that the issue would be removed for the coming decades.
    It is a pity that we have no politicians in power who can discard the mistakes of the past and adopt the right and wise decisions. Very sorry.
    Leontiev is right.
  9. omsbon
    omsbon 24 October 2012 10: 46
    +8
    I don’t understand how a fool can be a minister! Probably only at the appropriate premiere.
    1. arhipelag
      arhipelag 24 October 2012 10: 59
      +1
      Then it follows (?):
      I don’t understand how a fool can be the premiere! Probably only with the appropriate president.

      PS: but this is not so !?
  10. mar.tira
    mar.tira 24 October 2012 10: 59
    +4
    Regarding respect for customs and traditions. The question is: what traditions? When you are first spoiled in temples, and then the public, who considers themselves the conscience of the nation, takes up the protection of those who have spoiled themselves, do you respect these traditions ?! Answer: To the traditions that teachers, veterans, parents have laid down in us since childhood! I don’t know what the shamers wanted to prove in the church! But I will still transmit the traditions and customs of my people and respect! And all these cataclysms occur because our peoples do not have a common core that could connect us. There is no common idea that was in the USSR. Although we live together, they try to separate us according to religious, ideological, and even sexual characteristics. And something needs to be said. Even the Ukrainians and Belarusians, a common nation with us, have found enemies in us. But we are still from here! We are waiting for when they call us again! But the authorities are afraid of this! She says, why do we need turns, why do we need extra movements. We are quiet! We are all happy! OH WELL!
  11. Saracen
    Saracen 24 October 2012 11: 18
    +2
    SAMPLE OF A HIGH-INTELLECTUAL AND HIGHLY EDUCATED WOMAN:




    And SUCH LIQUID MEDIA DOES NOT LIKE:

    1. vorobey
      vorobey 24 October 2012 11: 25
      +5
      I'm sorry, but not the topic.
      1. Saracen
        Saracen 24 October 2012 11: 46
        +3
        and then what about the topic?

        1. prunx
          prunx 24 October 2012 14: 06
          0
          Saracenstop raving! It is a hijab as a political and religious instrument of pressure. Wear shawls when, for example, it’s cold or on holiday as a national dress - no one forbids!
          1. Saracen
            Saracen 24 October 2012 15: 23
            0
            Carrying delirium from you, Scarf - a woman's headdress - was the everyday norm - without him went on a walk (shit ... and). Goofy.
            The liquid Bolsheviks made..lacy the norm, bloody repressions.
            And NOW WHO WANTS TO CONVINCE - SO ALWAYS HAPPENED.
        2. laurbalaur
          laurbalaur 24 October 2012 16: 52
          -1
          Saracen, by the way, the first of your photographs depicts a young lady dancing in a belly dance, and besides, obviously not of the European, but of the Semitic-Iranian type. Secondly, the costume of a Russian woman depicted below, namely, a covered head, was not characteristic only for Russia, the whole world then walked with a covered head. So minus you with your trolling.
          1. Saracen
            Saracen 24 October 2012 17: 02
            0
            Quote: laurbalaur
            the whole world then walked with its head covered


            Why don't they go now? Ah .. "Sexual revolution" in the yard, a woman is a product for sex - has become.
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 24 October 2012 17: 42
              -1
              Quote: Saracen
              Ah .. "Sexual revolution" in the yard, a woman is a product for sex - has become.


              Based on your ideas, this is also a modern woman.
  12. Vodrak
    Vodrak 24 October 2012 11: 24
    0
    I wonder why foreigners visiting Islamic (albeit secular) states always wear at least a scarf. Thus, taking into account the traditions of this country. Why are Muslims arriving in European countries disregarding the customs of Europe? Yes, we can say that this is contrary to their religion, but until recently (during the Soviet Union) this did not harm the feelings of Muslims.
    1. Saracen
      Saracen 24 October 2012 11: 33
      -3
      Quote: Vodrak
      but until recently (during the Soviet Union) this didn’t harm the feelings of Muslims.

      Yes, under bayonets and repression, what feelings ??? and who asked about them ???
      A DISSENTED ELIMINATED !!!
      1. DIMS
        DIMS 24 October 2012 11: 43
        +1
        Right The Chekists in leather jackets walked the streets of Kazan and with bayonets eliminated all women wearing a hijab
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 24 October 2012 11: 49
          +6
          Quote: DIMS
          Chekists in leather jackets walked the streets of Kazan and with bayonets eliminated all women wearing a hijab


          And Adygea. which in the center of the Krasnodar Territory is generally quarantined and removed.
          1. DIMS
            DIMS 24 October 2012 11: 59
            +2
            And all who participated in this operation were awarded red trousers and personalized bayonets with a bayonet



            To make it easier to eliminate dissent
          2. Saracen
            Saracen 24 October 2012 12: 03
            -1
            Eliminated (link, prison) those who spoke openly. And for the rest, they did not take work, they didn’t take school, deprivation of rations, etc.
      2. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 24 October 2012 14: 39
        0
        Saracen,
        Quote: Saracen
        Yes, under bayonets and repression, what feelings ??? and who asked about them ??? And dissenting eliminated !!!

        What are you saying? And then people didn’t know ..........
        1. Saracen
          Saracen 24 October 2012 15: 31
          +1
          Quote: Mareman Vasilich
          And then people didn’t know ......



          YES ... and how the churches were destroyed, and the intelligentsia was destroyed, and the Krondstat uprising and Tambov .... all THE BASINS ??
  13. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 24 October 2012 11: 54
    +2
    Quote: Pit
    "I am not saying that every Muslim is a terrorist, but every
    Muslim terrorist that's for sure "

    The Basques from ETA and the Irish from IRA along the way are also Muslims)))
    I am already silent about the US foreign policy, which can be safely called "state terrorism".
    Quote: Saracen
    And it is calculated by the authorities and their media to create enmity and hatred.

    I do not think that the authorities need this, but the media, bloggers really succeeded in fomenting, sensing the mood of society.
  14. Saracen
    Saracen 24 October 2012 11: 58
    -1
    Quote: Lakkuchu
    I do not think that the authorities need it


    And the problems in the country are not due to inept leadership, but because there are "others" ..... A kind of lightning rod.
  15. Shkodnik65
    Shkodnik65 24 October 2012 12: 07
    +1
    Thanks to Aventurinka for the information, DTV is like a mouthful of water ... This is probably our (or rather, those who hold power) trouble: half-truths, understatement, narrow-mindedness, concessions, flirting, "maybe". Alas, all this is perceived as the most basic weakness.
    Of course, Putin said well about the fact that "It is better to let everyone feel equal," but it all looked kind of casual, vague, in passing. And you need it like in France.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 24 October 2012 17: 48
      -1
      Quote: Shkodnik65
      DTV like a mouthful of water ...

      But this is not interesting.
      Uncle prosecutors came and everyone in accordance with the law.
      What could be interesting about this for the media?
      bully
  16. dirty trick
    dirty trick 24 October 2012 13: 05
    +1
    I support the opinion of Vladimir Vladimirovich regarding lovers of showing off, but I consider it necessary to clarify:
    walking with your head uncovered and with loose hair is a fashion imported from the West !!
    in the Russian and Orthodox traditions (if you do not believe me, you can check with the nearest priest) - women braid their braids and wear headscarves.
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 24 October 2012 13: 41
      +3
      The priests vehemently rejected electricity, radio, and television. But time has judged. What a pop without a Mercedes, cell phone, computer and TV. So with braids, scarves. You go to the temple, cover your head. We live in a secular state and wear what is comfortable, even fashionable. Democracy. And no one has the right to force to wear what leads to a split and confrontation in society. This should especially be understood by the clergy, otherwise it is a political provocation that leads to a split in society by consciously clerics who incite a split and confrontation, which should be fundamentally suppressed by the state (up to criminal liability) and the clergy (renunciation and exile). Better to do it together. It has long been clear to everyone that power and the clergy ride in one limousine.
  17. Igarr
    Igarr 24 October 2012 14: 24
    0
    After the comments Aventurinka remembered.
    Indeed, either this or similar information passed through the "box".
    Somehow casual. Allegedly, a check is underway.
    Then he was surprised, but not alert.
    The issue has been resolved at the local level, it turns out.
    And our President just “kicked his hat,” as they say.
    Well, right.
    ...
    Do our, native Muslims, follow the lines of the overwhelmed overseas?
    That's the imams with us - they started to bring down. Do not like .. home.
    Suffering for faith, suffering for beliefs, for "one's own friends" is the highest valor in Islam.
    If our ... begin to lick ... there - what will remain of pride?
    Those who did not bend - eliminated.
    Remained - who?
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 24 October 2012 17: 50
      +2
      Quote: Igarr
      And our President just “kicked his hat,” as they say.

      And he raised the question of introducing a uniform school uniform.
      wink
  18. WW3
    WW3 24 October 2012 14: 58
    +3
    Hijab in a secondary school is superfluous .... under the USSR, such a question was not on the agenda ... it is the costs of democracy, and shooting at weddings in Moscow is wild, these people must remember that they are visiting and respect the indigenous Muscovites ... let law enforcement agencies put things in order ....

    In the end, even in liberal France, a law came into force against women wearing a burqa and hijab in public places.
  19. mar.tira
    mar.tira 24 October 2012 15: 20
    +1
    The danger is that nationalism begins to grow precisely because of such weaknesses of the state. In Russia, hundreds of nationalities, and dozens of religions, and beliefs. And when the head of state, at the state level, openly supports one, although he says that all faiths are equal . Others, without waiting for support from him, begin to do the same at their own level. But for their religions. And you will not do anything. You will be pressed on the ground so that you yourself do not want to live there. And this seems to be the case. coming!
  20. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 24 October 2012 16: 18
    +2
    True, along the way it turned out that not only Caucasians were shooting, but even Russians themselves were quite foolish.
    This cannot be, this is slander! Where did he see a shooting Russian at a wedding in Moscow ?! wink
    1. Aventurinka
      Aventurinka 24 October 2012 16: 43
      0
      Immediately after the shooting there was such a version. It was immediately voiced that they were not Caucasians, and here they went desa that Russian.
      In fact, it turned out
      Further verification showed that the wedding participants are not from the Caucasus and live in Moscow. In turn, a source of "Interfax" in law enforcement agencies said that the gunman himself is registered in the capital, and is a Tatar by nationality.

      See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/society/txt.asp?id=272011
    2. Ascetic
      Ascetic 24 October 2012 19: 52
      +4
      Quote: Lakkuchu
      True, along the way it turned out that not only Caucasians were shooting, but even Russians themselves were quite foolish.
      This cannot be, this is slander! Where did he see a shooting Russian at a wedding in Moscow?


      They get shot soon ... in a good way it doesn’t work out as usual ..
      1. arkady149
        arkady149 24 October 2012 23: 54
        0
        Ascetic "+". Recently, there has been a tendency for citizens to express their dissatisfaction with the licentiousness of the Caucasians louder and louder, the authorities will soon have to listen to their constitutional source - the people (in fact, unfortunately, the source of power is money and purchased airtime, advertising space, etc. .)
  21. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu 24 October 2012 17: 15
    0
    I wonder why around the second case the same hype was not raised as around the Dagestan wedding, although the case is similar? Why such a selective approach by the media and the public? The answer is obvious and lies in the word Dagestan Ie Caucasian. In the first case, the flow of lies and misinformation on the principle "one grandma said", in the second, complete silence. And this is only one case, although there are dozens of them.
  22. 8 company
    8 company 24 October 2012 17: 36
    0
    And I in Belarus saw a seller in a hijab shop. And they got to us! What to do, Orthodox ??? request
    1. A. Yaga
      A. Yaga 24 October 2012 20: 40
      0
      Affect financially. Ie do not buy anything from such sellers.
  23. vezunchik
    vezunchik 24 October 2012 17: 44
    0
    MINSK, October 18 - RIA Novosti, Alexey Buchchin. The appearance on the NTV channel of a video recording of allegedly negotiations between the Russian opposition leader Sergei Udaltsov and representatives of the Georgian authorities may indicate double-dealing between the participants in this meeting, said Alexander Antonovich, head of the KGB information and public relations center of Belarus.

    This meeting, according to the creators of the film "Anatomy of a Protest-2" released on the Russian NTV channel, took place in Minsk. In the video, Udaltsov and his associates allegedly talk with the then chairman of the Georgian parliamentary committee for defense and security Givi Targamadze, the consul of Georgia in Moldova Mikhail Iashvili, as well as three of their assistants. According to the creators of the picture, Targamadze has experience in preparing "color revolutions" in Georgia, Ukraine, and riots in Belarus.

    “If we speak in our language, the language of the special services, then we can talk about the double-dealing of the participants in the meeting,” Antonovich told RIA Novosti on Thursday.

    At the same time, the KGB is not sure that the filming was made in Belarus. “We have no information that these events took place on the territory of Minsk and in Belarus in general,” the source said.


    Read more: KGB of Belarus: participants of the meeting could have “leaked” the video with Udaltsov | RIA News
  24. Strashila
    Strashila 24 October 2012 17: 50
    0
    Stavropol ... and this is not uncommon in Siberia. The authorities, in order to fight on the ground, decided to oust them from the Caucasus and spread a thin layer throughout the country.
  25. dmb
    dmb 24 October 2012 21: 10
    +3
    Fellow citizens, what are you talking about. They began with the absolutely correct condemnation of the uneducated Minister of Education, and ended with nonsense with the expulsion of airplanes. You are about to expel Russian citizens from their capital. Why are you then surprised that the Kazan freak professor is talking about the confederation of Tatarstan and Russia. He acts by your own methods. What nonsense about blocking the streets. Well, go by car on Easter night at the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, and even at any large cathedral, where a large number of believers gather. You can go to the place where the next servant of the people with a flasher follows. I notice myself the roads are blocked not by Muslims or Christians, but by the city authorities for quite understandable and meaningful reasons (with the exception of most cases with flashing lights). In order to wean cut sheep in urban development does not need to venture ethnic strife. This is the work of a couple of police detachments and one representative of the administration, who, when such phenomena were identified, immediately informed the head clergyman in this place about this naturally having an agreement with him in advance. Believe me, the order will be restored in a matter of minutes. As for the hijabs, here I agree with Putin. It remains only to translate his words into reality in relation to all faiths and stop actively introducing clergy into state structures. He himself said that the state is secular. Private remark. A new discovery was made by Mr. Saracin. To all the sins of the Jewish Bolsheviks, he revealed and added one more consequence of repression. It turns out ... dstvo in Russia was outfitted exclusively by their means. Then Saracen even got around Mr. 8 company. Apparently the latter was annoyed that this thought did not occur to him personally, he confined himself only to stating the presence of hijabs in Belarus. I wonder how he did not connect this phenomenon with the Stalinist regime.
    1. arkady149
      arkady149 25 October 2012 00: 11
      0
      Yesterday in the district court of Engels the issue of choosing a preventive measure for the period of investigation for an organized criminal group of five natives of the North Caucasus was decided. Access to the building was controlled by riot police. They were afraid of attempts at capture and other provocations. Why is a polite word enough for some to comply with the law, while a warning shot to the head is not enough for others. How long will the authorities indulge all kinds of "minorities" to the detriment of the majority, because we declare the principles of democracy everywhere, and what is democracy if not the fulfillment of the will of the majority?
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 25 October 2012 00: 15
        0
        A generation of war in the Caucasus has grown up who knows that with a pistol you can achieve more than a kind word.
    2. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 25 October 2012 11: 17
      0
      Thank you dear reassured, I see that there are still sensible people in Russia, otherwise I thought it would be a sinful thing that I won’t read or write any more on these forums, because from the nonsense that brains here carry, they’re wedging, and sufficiently informed people, they can think so and even put this crap on public display, there are two options: either this is a clinic, or a deliberate provocation. Once again, thanks to DMB.
  26. v53993
    v53993 24 October 2012 21: 13
    +1
    True, along the way it turned out that not only Caucasians were shooting, but even Russians themselves were quite foolish.


    Shooting is, of course, bad in any home. But to shoot in someone else's house is, excuse the lawlessness.
  27. dmb
    dmb 24 October 2012 21: 13
    0
    Fellow citizens, what are you talking about. They began with the absolutely correct condemnation of the uneducated Minister of Education, and ended with nonsense with the expulsion of airplanes. You are about to expel Russian citizens from their capital. Why are you then surprised that the Kazan freak professor is talking about the confederation of Tatarstan and Russia. He acts by your own methods. What nonsense about blocking the streets. Well, go by car on Easter night at the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, and even at any large cathedral, where a large number of believers gather. You can go to the place where the next servant of the people with a flasher follows. I notice myself the roads are blocked not by Muslims or Christians, but by the city authorities for quite understandable and meaningful reasons (with the exception of most cases with flashing lights). In order to wean cut sheep in urban development does not need to venture ethnic strife. This is the work of a couple of police detachments and one representative of the administration, who, when such phenomena were identified, immediately informed the head clergyman in this place about this naturally having an agreement with him in advance. Believe me, the order will be restored in a matter of minutes. As for the hijabs, here I agree with Putin. It remains only to translate his words into reality in relation to all faiths and stop actively introducing clergy into state structures. He himself said that the state is secular. Private remark. A new discovery was made by Mr. Saracin. To all the sins of the Jewish Bolsheviks, he revealed and added another consequence of repression. It turns out ... dstvo in Russia was introduced exclusively through them. Then Saracen even got around Mr. 8 company. Apparently the latter was annoyed that this thought did not occur to him personally, he confined himself only to stating the presence of hijabs in Belarus. I wonder how he did not connect this phenomenon with the Stalinist regime.
  28. sprut
    sprut 24 October 2012 23: 13
    0
    Those parents who force their children to wear hijabs in schools or elsewhere are sheer egoists and spitting in the face of the whole of Russian society! For the remaining 80-95% of people it annoys to the marrow of bones!
    1. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 25 October 2012 12: 00
      0
      sprut,
      So this is the calculation. It's just that they are people from someone or something that depends on them, so they were bent so that they would arrange this hipish with hijabs for children. Or maybe they just gave the money and instructed what and how to do well, in general, to our security officers we know better.
  29. Magadan
    Magadan 24 October 2012 23: 34
    +1
    I don’t understand how a hijab can humiliate me, a Russian? Or, especially any national holiday ?! If a person wants to emphasize belonging and respect for his culture to his ancestors ?! Yes, I’m on the drum, what problems are there in Europe now? We are a multinational country and have never suffered from the influence of different cultures of the peoples of the Empire. On the contrary, they enriched themselves.
    It’s not clear what was inflated! Now we will begin to ban Muslims from wearing hijab, and tomorrow Muslims will tell us not to wear crosses on the beach!
    Do you want that?
    1. arkady149
      arkady149 25 October 2012 00: 26
      0
      Get on a Muslim beach in the Caucasian republics - whom you will see - hot Caucasian men looking at Russian women with interest, their women swim behind a high fence, although nominally we are one country. Does the blood of a sacrificial ram on the lawn offend you? Or are we now so tolerant that until we see the blood from our own hryundel, we will be touched by the "highly spiritual" traditions of "compatriots-Russians."
      1. Alex 241
        Alex 241 25 October 2012 00: 28
        -1
        Until they put knives or trunks in the gateway ...........
        1. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 25 October 2012 11: 49
          -1
          Scared? Pull up your pants, throw off your belly, Buy yourself a traumatic, enroll in the Cossacks, patrol the streets with friends near schools, in the end, put the police phone into your mobile phone and get their koels every minute, just don't blast comrade "alex" like a sacrificial lamb.
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 25 October 2012 17: 41
            0
            You would be easier with your statements I do not need trauma or cops to punish the goats.
      2. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 25 October 2012 11: 39
        0
        Listen, Arkasha, at 23 o'clock you kind of spoke smartly, and at 00 with minutes you like to replace garbage. Five Muslims live in my house and not one of them would ever think of cutting a lamb in the courtyard of our house. Because they know that I and their other neighbors will not like it. And also because neither on Easter, nor on Christmas, nor I, my co-religionists are drunk in the insole of the yard and we don’t embarrass Muslim children.
  30. arkady149
    arkady149 24 October 2012 23: 42
    +2
    The trouble with Islam, in my inexperienced view, is that its radical branches preach the lifestyle and mentality of nomadic Bedouins who, due to natural-historical factors, were not interested in creative, our understanding, work. Among nomadic peoples, war and trade are the most worthy pursuits of men. This thesis should be developed, but I think the readers of the comments are already familiar with it, agree that it is not war and (or) trade does not create material wealth, but only redistributes them, productive but work on the basis of science is possible only in conditions of settled life. Climbed far, of course, but I think everyone can continue the logical chain.