Published footage of the consequences of a strike on the Crimean bridge

The Western satellite system MAXAR has published satellite images of the consequences of the strike on the Crimean bridge. The picture was taken at the moment when a railway tanker, hit by an explosion, was on fire on the railway track. The fire then spread to other tanks, but the situation did not worsen.

Recall that the NAC of the Russian Federation called the explosion of a truck the cause of the emergency on the Crimean bridge. However, experts believe that the explosion could have occurred at that very moment on the bridge there was a train with motor fuel. As a result, several tanks were engulfed in flames.

Meanwhile, photos of the Crimean bridge and the collapses caused by the explosion are published on the network. Two spans of the automobile part of the Crimean bridge collapsed, partially ending up in the water. At the same time, experts believe that the bridge did not receive critical damage as a result of the impact, and therefore the restoration of the canvas is possible in the coming, if not weeks, then months.

_{View of the collapsed bridge span from below}

Up to 0,5 billion rubles may be needed to restore the damage caused to the Crimean bridge.

Earlier it was reported that road traffic in reverse mode was resumed at about 16:00, and railway traffic after 20:00.

Comments

[al3x]

Ah, so this is an emergency, there it is cho ..
OK OK..
Well, at least the explosion was honestly called an explosion, not a pop.

[MBRSS]

the explosion was honestly called an explosion, not a pop.

Why is everyone attached to the word "cotton"? This is how a close explosion is perceived by ear. In my house opposite, the gas exploded (it blew apart several apartments), and so: the sound was just like a deafening COTTON! This is how the human ear perceives a close detonation of explosives. A distant explosion is perceived as a thunderclap, due to the numerous reflections of the beat. waves from different objects. Note that eyewitnesses call the explosions "pops", why should they downplay the effect themselves? It's just how they hear it.

[ilya.muromczev2013]

Yes, what does it have to do with what and how does someone hear?! People want to hear the truth about NWO! An explosion is called a bang, an enemy drone is called a UFO, a retreat is called a retreat to more advantageous positions, etc., etc. Why is this? To "not disturb the people"? And the effect is just the opposite. The lies of the authorities make people disappointed, indignant, and some even fear...

[Vadmir]

And the effect is just the opposite. The lies of the authorities cause people disappointment, indignation, and some even fear...

Totally agree with you. But what can the authorities say right now? Sorry, could you? And retire all together?
Now it is deadly for our country. First you need to gather your strength and correct the situation - deliver a powerful blow. And then you can do the debriefing.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

It seems to me that there will be no answer for the explosion of the Crimean bridge.

[Vadmir]

With GDP, Russia has no past, present, or future ...

There is a war, as history shows, any attempt to replace power during the war ends in military defeat, and not rarely, and the collapse of the entire country. So, at this point in time, there will be no Russia without GDP. We are all in the same boat, or we will all rake out, or we will all drown.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Vadmir

as history shows, any attempt to replace power during the war ends in military defeat, and not rarely, and the collapse of the entire country.

1. We are already pecking defeat thanks to one "comrade".

Quote: Vadmir

We are all in the same boat, or we will all rake out, or we will all drown.

2. I'm not calling for anything - I'm just stating a fact.

[Grem1]

Unfortunately, this does not reach many of the local expert strategists. Perhaps because they broadcast from the other side of the border.

[fiberboard]

Complete nonsense. On the contrary, the coming to power of decisive and more radical politicians often leads to victory. They are able to mobilize the country and the people. Take Georges Clemenceau as an example, it was he who snatched victory in the First World War by restoring order in France. For this, it’s true that I had to shoot some “philosophers” who say that “everything is lost” but nothing, it was worth it.

[Liam]

Quote: Vadmir

as history shows, any attempt to replace power during the war ends in military defeat

On May 7, 1940, hearings were held in the House of Commons on the defeat in the Battle of Norway, the next day a vote was held on the issue of confidence in the government. Despite receiving a formal vote of confidence, Chamberlain decided to resign, due to the sharp criticism that cabinet policy had been subjected to and a narrow (81 votes) majority in the voting. Churchill and Lord Halifax were considered the most suitable candidates. On May 10, 1940, George VI formally appointed Churchill as prime minister.

[AUL]

Quote: Vadmir

We are all in the same boat, or we will all rake out, or we will all drown.

Someone in the boat rests on the oars, while others squeeze the girls on the yacht ...
Not tired yet about the boat and the ferry tryndet?

[Ludmila Myshkina]

at this point in time, there will be no Russia without GDP. We are all in the same boat, or we will all rake out, or we will all drown.

judging by the minuses, half of the liberals and propogandons are sitting here. rejoicing in any failure. except for button-pressing and chatter with dirt, who did nothing personally to fight

[Vadmir]

judging by the minuses, half of the liberals and propogandons are sitting here. rejoicing in any failure.

In the morning, information warfare specialists are coming to their jobs at computers.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

here, if you don’t look, every second expert and strategist

[AVA77]

What did you want?
Be stupid to find yourself . Well good luck.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

why is the thief's hat on fire? The above didn't apply to you.

[AVA77]

On VORE.
The above did not apply to me.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

surzhik. what I wrote, if you noticed and did not pass by, it only confirms my words

[AVA77]

Stop mocking the great and mighty, don't even try.
surzhik with a small letter is your level

What is there to confirm? You are your own confirmation.

Where did you write it? on your knees.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

on the coccyx! you are writing from your phone. and I'm from a laptop. who needs to read and understand half a word and half a line. I'm too lazy to switch caps every time. and I’m not going to argue with minors who are not far off. UNDERSTAND? ignore

[Koronik]

I think your contribution will be appreciated in victory - where, I'm sure you will argue that this is exactly what was meant by what was said above - "those who personally did nothing for the fight"

[Deon59]

Yes, without GDP, as if there would be no Russia. We are not tired of talking nonsense. If he removed all competitors around him, this does not mean that there are no more worthy in Russia

[AUL]

Up to 0,5 billion rubles may be needed to restore the damage caused to the Crimean bridge.

And if Rotenberg is entrusted with this again, he will rise to all 15 billion!

[AdAstra]

Yes, and with the same quality. """

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

It seems to me that there will be no answer for the explosion of the Crimean bridge.

However, I would very much like to hope that your presentiment will be erroneous. You can't leave this unanswered.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

while investigations and examinations are being carried out. and actions with answers are delayed. coal by the evening will say "the Russian Federation themselves destroyed the bridge" as Danilov already began to speak

[kuztoday]

They also spoke after the murder of Dugina. Was there something in return for them? I do not remember..

[Nyrobsky]

Quote from kuztoday

They also spoke after the murder of Dugina. Was there something in return for them? I do not remember..

And I don’t remember, but such things are not done with kondachka. It's not to drive to the bakery next door. The performer is known, the accomplice is known, I believe that the customer, with a high degree of probability, has been identified. Everything outside our state is on the territory of very unfriendly countries, and the imperceptible appearance of Major "Whirlwind" with a punishing mission is very difficult. The ice pick of his Trotsky found many years after he went into immigration. Everything has its time.
PS I think that the performer and her accomplice have long since rested in the Bose and dug in a secluded place, because their faces are "illuminated" and this is, whatever one may say, but a toxic asset for any s/service.

[for]

Quote: Vadmir

First you need to gather your strength and correct the situation - deliver a powerful blow

Or maybe it was necessary to gather forces before the NWO.

[Vadmir]

Or maybe it was necessary to gather forces before the NWO.

It was necessary to. But history has no subjunctive mood. What has already happened. We will have to win not thanks to good preparation and brilliant plans, but in spite of poor preparation and ill-conceived plans. But we will win in any case, we are not the first time.

[Maxim G]

Who do we need?
Only the socialist USSR could cope with the strong, having a powerful economy and a modern army.
Tsarist Russia lost all wars with such opponents - the Crimean, Russian-Japanese, World War I, on its sector of the front.

[Vadmir]

Who do we need?
Only the socialist USSR could cope with the strong, having a powerful economy and a modern army.

Katz offers to surrender?

Tsarist Russia lost all wars with such opponents - the Crimean, Russian-Japanese, World War I, on its sector of the front.

Something your history is too selective, it's even surprising how the area of ​​​​tsarist Russia exceeded the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe USSR. Is it from a series of endless military failures? Napoleon with Charles XII and Frederick the Great, you don’t seem to consider serious opponents at all?

[Maxim G]

Quote: Vadmir

Something your story is too selective ...

Is it from a series of endless military failures? Napoleon with Charles XII and Frederick the Great, you don’t seem to consider serious opponents at all?

As the industrialization of the country began to play a large role in wars, so did defeat after defeat, aggravated by weakness and venality at the top.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Vadmir

Napoleon with Charles XII and Frederick the Great, you don’t seem to consider serious opponents at all?

Only in these wars with us, the allies were still strong, and now we are alone

[Vladimir100]

The area increased due to the Urals and Siberia, where no major wars were ever waged except for skirmishes with local peoples who often lived in the Stone Age.

[stankow]

She completely won the war of 1877 against Turkey.

[Maxim G]

Read carefully my message.

Quote: stankow

She completely won the war of 1877 against Turkey.

[Alexander Emrys]

Quote: stankow

She completely won the war of 1877 against Turkey.

having the industrial and political support of the German Empire and France, who hoped that Russia would support one of them in their internecine troubles.
There was no isolation, and now even China is talking about the territorial integrity of Ukraine:

United Nations, 30 September. /TASS/. China stands for respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of states and a serious attitude to the legitimate security concerns of all parties in the situation around Ukraine. This was stated on Friday at a meeting of the UN Security Council, China's permanent representative to the world organization Zhang Jun.

"China's position on the issue of Ukraine is consistent and clear. The sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries must be ensured. The purposes and principles of the UN Charter must be observed, all legitimate security concerns of all parties must be seriously considered. All efforts must be supported to promote a peaceful settlement ", - he said.

[Normann]

We will not stand up for the price........... So?

[Sotskiy]

Quote: for

Or maybe it was necessary to gather forces before the NWO.

What do you think 300 billion is for? Did you keep dollars in foreign accounts?
Gathered with strength!

[t200404]

There is bad news - we have nothing to strike + no political will

[katarsafebox.com]

And the lies of the blochers, therefore, cause neither disappointment, nor indignation, nor, moreover, fear, right?

[Taimen]

How many photos have already been shown from different angles, but no traces of a truck explosion are visible. And this is at least a funnel or holes in the span. And here even the marking lines are like new. A strange version or convenient. , in the area of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbthe tanks. Were the tanks themselves not with a bookmark? Or is it necessary to save someone from the offenders?

[EXPrompt]

Your version of the explosion in the area of ​​\u2b\uXNUMXbthe tanks is easily broken by XNUMX questions.
After the explosion, a meteor shower of remnants burning in the sky falls from the sky from the right from top to left for 5-10 seconds.
Question 1 - what could fall and burn like that?
Question 2- And why will it fall from Kerch in the Black Sea surfacing?
Let me remind you that they are tanks on the left closer to the Black Sea above the canvas by 10m, and not on the top right ....

[Zhan]

Quote: EXPrompt

Your version of the explosion in the area of ​​\u2b\uXNUMXbthe tanks is easily broken by XNUMX questions.
After the explosion, a meteor shower of remnants burning in the sky falls from the sky from the right from top to left for 5-10 seconds.
Question 1 - what could fall and burn like that?
Question 2- And why will it fall from Kerch in the Black Sea surfacing?
Let me remind you that they are tanks on the left closer to the Black Sea above the canvas by 10m, and not on the top right ....

Yes, perhaps you are right, it’s just that the explosion was not at the calculated point, otherwise the damage would have been much stronger. Automobile spans collapsed as a result of the strongest dynamic load from the explosion. The explosion was clearly planned as directed with striking elements towards the railway bridge, with a high probability of destroying the spans of the railway bridge. Therefore, I conclude that the sabotage was partially successful. But why didn’t this happen at the calculated point, was it an accident or did the navigation systems of the explosive device not work correctly? I think the driver did not even suspect that he was lucky. Judging by the movement, he was collecting cargo for transportation, a regular shuttle flight.
Maybe I'm wrong.

[EXPrompt]

@Zhan
I am not a bridge builder, but even I know that modern bridges are not built monolithic, there may be hinges and moving parts of the bridge to dampen various deformations, thermal expansions, wind loads, etc., etc..
It seems to me that the fact that the boar is intact (excluding the version with a boat), the canvas collapsed completely, is explained by the fact that the hinge or connection with the boar could not withstand the shock load.

I think from the materials I have seen so far, 95% of this fat rocket detonated remotely to the right from above .. Or it was shot down 50-100 - 200-300m to the right above ..
A meteor shower, or the remnants of rocket fuel, or a Russian air defense missile, its fragments, or a Russian air defense missile for self-destruction after an unsuccessful interception of its fragments .. In short, I would like footage from CCTV cameras from the mountains. Kerch at the time of the attack. That would explain a lot.
The option with the truck seems to me to be noodles and misinformation of our special services so that shoulder straps do not fly .. And they can classify it like a cruiser.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Taimen

How many photos have already been shown from different angles, but no traces of a truck explosion are visible.

You can see it perfectly in the photo accompanying the article.

The explosion occurred on the right side of the road (where the span collapsed) and this place is easy to identify by the sooty spots that remained on the remains of the road. The explosion did not occur on the surface of the road, but above it (1-1,5 meters), since the explosive was on the floor of the semi-trailer of the truck, which is called the "truck" in publications

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[BastaKarapuzik And]

In what sense are traces of the explosion not visible? In this article that we are commenting on?
The explosion site is now in the water, in the photo from the article, you can see a hole in the roadway, see the view from below. This is where the truck exploded.
The flight has broken and lies in the water. Plus, there are traces of soot around, and even from them you can see where the epicenter was.
And besides this, a recording from the camera of the exact moment of the explosion is available. A truck exploded, which could contain several tons of explosives or more. The surname and name of the driver are known, the car exploded in motion - that is, the driver or a suicide bomber, which is unlikely, or he was used in the dark.
The fact that it did not explode on a navigable span is most likely a consequence of the fact that the charge was with a timer, and not with a remote control.

[TEX-50]

The timer is disabled. The driver stopped to eat, sleep, take a piss, and the whole operation went down the drain. As I already wrote, everything here should have been according to feng shui - tracking the track in real time and remote detonation.

It doesn't look like several tons of explosives at all. Yes, you don't need that much.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

The bridge can be covered by electronic warfare. Which excludes signal transmission to the VU by overloading the receiver channel (or forcibly undermining it).
As you can see, the car did not reach the arch. There was no point in blowing it up there, if there was an opportunity to damage the arch, in my opinion. It is the arch that needs protection, since it is also shipping.
This means that the timer was activated when it was still feasible, apparently before the arrival on the bridge, having calculated the necessary time. But the driver fell behind the intended schedule as he was used blindly.

[TEX-50]

All this can be, but the timer in this case is a much more unreliable option. I say, the driver went into a Russian appetite or the car broke down, and all down the drain. The timer is excluded, stop fantasizing.

visible before arrival

Looks like reptilians.

[MBRSS]

ilya.muromczev2013 where is the truth about SVO? Again: Eyewitnesses speak in the frame: "they heard a pop", "there was a pop", etc. It was "heard," "rang out," and not "happened." A fool understands that speech and speech is about an explosion / explosions, and not about clapping.

enemy drone - UFO, retreat - retreat to more advantageous positions,

but that's a whole different topic.

[denk20]

And how is a fallen air bomb or a hail cassette perceived by ear? Claps, peals of thunder? I've heard so much "thunder" and "pops" in a month, and also whistles. Explosion he and in Africa explosion. And then there's the directed explosion. For the truck exploded on a support, otherwise there would be no collapse, but only damage. In this case, the blast wave had to go down. I am not an expert, there is such a science - sopromat.
And the most important question. Now it's time to cross the Kyiv and Dnepropetrovsk bridges?

[MBRSS]

denk20 I don't watch off. news. And what, they said that on the bridge happened "cotton"? It is usually said that someone heard. And there is nothing surprising or false in this, because what they heard is what they say. It's time to get used to it. And explain to others what I'm trying to do.

[TEX-50]

The truck exploded NOT on the support, but between them. Look carefully at the photo, you can see everything there.

[Dikson]

The site "reporter" elegantly called the tryndets that happened - an "incident" .. Well, you know, like - "everything is fine, beautiful marquise" ..- well, the roadbed was slightly damaged and the "cistern caught fire" .. It happens. It's OK. And since it's nothing to worry about, maybe it's not worth reporting to the top? Why distract serious people? Let the Ministry of Emergency Situations deal with its own restoration. In principle, after all, nothing critically serious has happened - one railway line is working, one line of the highway is also .. There is fuel in the Crimea for 15 days, judging by the words of the authorities. The products did not have time to buy everything in a panic - again, on a command from above, sales were limited. Everything is fine. In terms of image and reputation - yes, a blow .. for the rest - we will see more.

[myka2013]

Quote: MBRBS

the explosion was honestly called an explosion, not a pop.

Why is everyone attached to the word "cotton"? This is how a close explosion is perceived by ear. In my house opposite, the gas exploded (it blew apart several apartments), and so: the sound was just like a deafening COTTON! This is how the human ear perceives a close detonation of explosives. A distant explosion is perceived as a thunderclap, due to the numerous reflections of the beat. waves from different objects. Note that eyewitnesses call the explosions "pops", why should they downplay the effect themselves? It's just how they hear it.

totally agree with you .

[myka2013]

Quote: al3x

Ah, so this is an emergency, there it is cho ..
OK OK..
Well, at least the explosion was honestly called an explosion, not a pop.

totally agree with you

[Mavrikiy]

On the restoration of damage caused to the Crimean bridge, it may be necessary up to 0,5 billion rubles.

These are pennies, what are you talking about?
Strangely, the bridge was formed, one end was thrown off the support, and the other span was broken at the far support, after 80 meters. The spans were 50 m each. And the canvas on the middle support did not part. It can be seen in the photo that the hitch of canvases has moved from the middle support and hung over the strait. And further along the course, after 100 m, the canvas was pulled off the support and the end sagged. Obviously, the truck jerked off at the place where the canvas was broken, and the train was caught in order to bring out the railway as well, but it didn’t grow together , Thank God. There are gunners in the railway. The schedule of the freight train during the DB is not a stable thing. And the train was caught. If he had been caught on the arch, they would have torn the arch ..... We were lucky today. The glass is half full.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Strangely, the bridge folded, one end was thrown off the support, and the other span was broken at the far support, after 80 meters. The spans were 50 m each. And the canvas on the middle support did not part

As I understand it, by the explosion of a floating vessel near the support (the place of the explosion can be seen from the smokyness of the remaining strip), the canvas was thrown up, tore off the first and fourth sections, moved to the side, but did not tear. While descending, the canvas hit the support, warped and one span broke.
The power of the explosion can only be estimated by specialists.

PS Recently, there have been reports of UK deliveries of floating drones.

[Prjanik]

And in my opinion, the burnt top and untouched bottom just indicate an explosion above the roadway, and not below. Yes, and the video shows that the canvas did not throw up and there was no water column of splashes, and there would be fragments of the vessel. Most likely really a truck, there is nothing more

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Prjanik

And in my opinion, the burnt top and untouched bottom just indicate an explosion above the roadway, and not below.

There is no corresponding stain on the collapsed canvas.
If the explosion was from above, the imprint would be on both.
I believe that the stain left a cloud of explosive gases that broke through between the right canvas raised by the explosion and the left canvas that was not torn from its place. Organics burned on the left canvas.

[Prjanik]

Well, you must admit, if some multi-ton drone exploded under the bridge, the whole structure, from below, would be sooty, broken and in its wreckage. In the photo, there is no explosive effect at all from below, which is also capable of throwing up the span of the bridge

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Prjanik

Well, you must admit, if some multi-ton drone exploded under the bridge, the whole structure, from below, would be sooty, broken and in its wreckage.

Fully agree. There is no soot in the photo of the lower part of the bridge, and even the cables were left lying in their trays

[EXPrompt]

@Prjanik (Paul)
After the explosion of 5-10 seconds, a meteor shower was formed, the direction from the Kerch-Black Sea.
What the hell truck can explode so that then burning fragments from the sky fall like a meteor shower for 10 seconds?

[Prjanik]

Okay, what do you think it could explode?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Prjanik

Okay, what do you think it could explode?

Little Tunguzsky.

[Prjanik]

Well, this is in the heading of the programs of the Ren-TV channel

[Bad_gr]

Quote: EXPrompt

What the hell truck can explode so that then burning fragments from the sky fall like a meteor shower for 10 seconds?

This one

[Sergey VTC]

Truck with saltpeter, for example. She just burns like this.

[Katyusha]

Most likely really a truck, there is nothing more

1. There is no funnel from the truck explosion (even microscopic).
2. Other cars were not scattered from the "explosion" in the plane of the roadway (if it was at the point of the truck).
3. There is a "powerful downpour" from the red-hot lava of the remains of unburned fuel (direction diagonally to the right, from the upper corner of the video camera frame towards the parallel roadbed). From it there is a dark spot on the preserved parallel roadbed.
4. Spots from a burned-out truck are higher on the canvas, where the rise begins (even a tiny funnel from its "explosion" is not on the canvas).
4. There is a flash of the beginning of the explosion in the upper right corner of the frame, but you need the ability to watch in mega-slow scrolling - slower than YouTube's speed of 0.25.
5. There is a danger of the already completed delivery of the "necessary" missiles from the impudent Saxons (or the option of setting up the production of analogues of the Iskanders at Yuzhmash) and their "shock" use when / if they gather a fist for a southern strike (on the Crimea). In this case, they could not resist the "premature gift" strike on the KM.
6. From the side of the Russian Federation, it may also not be profitable to shine the truth about a missile strike - shoulder straps will fly. Therefore, now they are "twisting" - one truck, others - dismantling the Kremlin towers.
7. On the part of the arrogant people, it is beneficial to push the use of tactical nuclear weapons to the point of provocation in order to warm up the numbing and decaying EU on "Drang nach Osten". The most effective anti-Maidan way is to plug everyone's mouths with a military fuse. In Ukraine it worked perfectly.

[Prjanik]

What else is a funnel from a truck explosion, it's not a fallen shell. About the rocket is generally nonsense, with a multi-ton combat head it should be the size of Poplar, also invisible and inaudible

[Katyusha]

What else is a funnel from a truck explosion, it's not a fallen shell.

"As a result of a collision between a truck carrying explosives and a motorcycle, a huge explosion occurred. It all happened in the countryside in western Ghana, the explosives were intended for a gold mine. The explosion formed a huge crater." This is offhand, from Google (1.01.2022). Google the text, go in, look at the funnel, if not laziness.

About the rocket is generally nonsense, with a multi-ton combat head it should be the size of Poplar, also invisible and inaudible

Learn materiel. If I learned, you can do it all the more)).

[Prjanik]

Well, yes, a huge, unseen and unheard rocket, which left neither damage nor debris characteristic of a rocket) Although the Sumerians have already drawn a cartoon with falling rockets, it’s true that the squalor of a graphon can compete only with the IQ of those who spread it)

[Demon_is_ada]

To begin with, I advise you to understand the meaning of "high-explosive" and "blasting" explosive effects.
Then take demolition courses, where they will explain to you how hard it is to blow up several boxes of TNT with one detonator. 90% of TNT will simply scatter. They will also explain to you there when a smoky flame appears after an explosion and what it depends on.
Then we can discuss the details with you

[EXPrompt]

@Katiusha (Ekaterina)
My opinion is that a rocket hit the bridge on a remote detonation over the target.
on question 3 - A meteor shower can be either unburned rocket fuel or an air defense missile of the Russian Federation self-destruction after an unsuccessful interception of some target.
And I agree, paragraph 6, they will classify it like a cruiser, because shoulder straps do not press anyone.

It is interesting that the cameras of the city of Kerch were filmed from a long range at the time of the attack .. Maybe there will be something interesting.

[Katyusha]

Yes, a video has been played on Twitter since the morning, but the quality of the camera is very poor at such a large distance, and besides, night shooting. There is a fall of a rocket ... Almost instantaneous.

[EXPrompt]

I haven’t seen it yet .. if it falls from the stratosphere, then it should be instantaneous with large angles of attack, almost vertically.

A wagon, a very convenient version, to save shoulder straps.

[Katyusha]

Yes, almost vertically, like a "smeared" giant lightning-shadow.

[EXPrompt]

And the way it should be, there will be at least a speed of 1000 m sec, household cameras will remove it like a shadow, or a contrail.

[EXPrompt]

@ Katiusha (Catherine)
What is most interesting?
there, according to my measurements, 288 km to the place where they could shoot.
Alder complex, not suitable 200km..
Harpoon - suitable for 280 km slam, winged 225 kg warhead.
NSM fits 280km, 2x speed, but it is winged 0,95mah
ATACMS is suitable for 300 km, and it is just ballistic ..

All this, personally, makes me think that right now the GDP is considering inflicting a limited strike on the states or not yet ..

[Katyusha]

@EXPrompt,
in the English-speaking segment they boast that ATACMS has already been delivered outside (after the "impressive" events in Kharkov).
As I understand it, this is a gross violation of the possible Geneva agreements-21 But when the Anglo-Saxons were embarrassed to violate the agreements, the question is rhetorical. But they are trying to keep a face... And this is possible only in one case: they have received sufficiently convincing arguments to try not to do so.
In the Ukrainian segment, experts like Zhdanov are discussing the possibility of restoring similar industries using the remaining post-Soviet technologies (documents/specialists/workshops) - not without the help of "senior partners". But I see this line as a cover for the 1st. If they could, they would have done it long ago. And who will give them.
And in a "limited strike on the states" there is little joy not only for everyone ((. Although there is some historical logic - the previous Atlantean civilization, which is held in high esteem by the impudent Saxon Masons, interrupted human history for several tens of millennia, something like this ...
Someone seems to have been taken aback...

[Katyusha]

ps

A meteor shower can be either unburned rocket fuel or an air defense missile of the Russian Federation self-destruction after an unsuccessful interception of some target

.
It really could be an air defense missile. And most likely, she coped partially - she took away from a direct hit in the "frozen in anticipation" train with a diesel engine. In the event of such a hit and the subsequent detonation of the fuel, the bridge would hardly have been restored. So fast.
Thank you for your communication. You helped me a lot with the key points in this story. All the best.

[EXPrompt]

Well, I will emphasize an important point, the boat Belgorod, quietly departed in an unknown direction.
And she can shoot her ammunition from the White or Barnets Sea, where the radius of destruction is greater than the diameter of the globe.

[Maestro]

... It really could be an air defense missile ...

dear, ... from the video frames it is clear that a charge equivalent to several tons of TNT was blown up over the span of the bridge - this can be up to 10 tons of slightly "modified" ordinary saltpeter. No air defense missile is capable of carrying such ammunition

[EXPrompt]

Read carefully, we are not discussing the explosion itself ..
A meteor shower after the explosion. And then just an air defense missile that tried, or already shot down, an enemy missile is physical. explanation for this effect.

[Maestro]

Have you forgotten school chemistry yet?
2NH₄NO₃ → 2N₂ + O₂ + 4H₂O (at temperatures above 350°C)
"Meteor shower" is the fall of the wreckage of a truck trailer in an oxygen-enriched cloud of an explosion of ammonium nitrate

[EXPrompt]

I understood everything about chemistry .. And what can you say about physics.
You have in the center of the frame in the distance, there is a truck, let's say even with saltpeter, let's say it exploded .. And then what do we see ..
Meteor shower, tracing from right up to left down, I would say the scraps of a truck during an explosion on the bridge Should scatter both left and right up in different vectors, and only then fall .. And here from the sky the lower left corner is right into the sea, and I looked like a funnel..
It seems to me uncharacteristic for blowing up a truck, just such a fall of lumps.
Then the truck in the center, the tanker on the left, falls from the top right .. so what set fire to the tanker, and along what trajectory ...

[Maestro]

well, yes ... something too strong "fireworks" for some wreckage of a truck

But already it seems that they found out that there was a cargo of a little more than 20 tons of "film in rolls". And hell knows what the "organizers" of the terrorist attack molded and packed in a film.
"Meteor shower" falls even on the trailing truck, and between them at least 200 meters. According to the I-map, there were only 60-70 meters to the tanks - so they got set on fire

[EXPrompt]

@Maestro (Alexey)
Alleluia...
Once again .. do not look at frame-by-frame pictures, but the video itself ..
This firework cannot be a train, if you look at the camera from the top left, 10m higher, the truck is in the center in the distance, and the firework flies from the top right, down to the left ..
Here this effect, yesterday in discussions, was already dubbed burning water)) For a number of people, water can burn, such knowledge of physics, without comment ...
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I’ll tell you straight out that the version of the truck is the most efficient, which is why they push it in the media, well, who do you blame the traffic police officer on the bridge with his maximum lieutenant shoulder straps and a complete misunderstanding of the explosive case ..
Well, the second goal does not need to be answered by the states themselves for the supply of long-range missiles, but you can answer Ukraine stupidly by accusing it of a banal terrorist attack with a truck.

[Katyusha]

pps one more question "in physics".
The video with the "fiery meteor shower" is filming another 10 seconds after the explosion. Ok, one explosion-blow from whatever happened.
What do we see? We see the consequences (meteor showers). What else we see: street lamps with poles along the side of the road are in place, the roadbed is in place, the lighting goes out, but the brake lights of two cars behind the truck are in place.
What we see in the daytime photo of the consequences (top view): two powerful burnt failures of the roadway and one "clean" shear.
And here a reasonable question arises: could all these destructions wait as long as 10 seconds after the impact? And how long could such a structure, after these 10 seconds, still "wait", "reflecting" on the force of the explosion - before "falling over"? Two and a half places?
According to the theory of probability, there could be not only one blow - in places of failures. And then the second blow was "not shown" to us.
It's like on the "green video", which was dubbed fake (maybe so) - but "for some reason" two missile strikes are "depicted" there. In sequence.
... But in general, it's hard to discuss everything. Peace to all.

[Maestro]

...there could have been more than one blow...

only one spot is visible

The spans of the bridge, apparently, are fastened by 4 spans. Therefore, after the collapse of the 3rd - the first two and the last were pulled from the supports at the place of "expansion joints"

[Maestro]

... fireworks flies from the right from the top, down to the left ...

fireworks fall from top to bottom - which is natural and blown away by the wind from right to left - according to the "weather archive" that morning there was a wind of NE 10 m/s.
The analysis of the applied explosives, of course, has long been done. But the FSB does not disclose it. Question - why? Yes, because introscopes do not recognize this mixture as explosive! Well, for example, they formed cylinders from ammonium nitrate, wrapped them in a film metallized with aluminum (its lumps burned after the explosion) - and let the cargo through 4 borders.
Information has already been posted on the Internet that the passage of this "checkpoint" without stopping for an x-ray cost from 200 to 500 rubles. from the wagon. Why didn't they "tighten the screws" after the start of the NWO? Probably, at the top they hope to extract "their own benefit" after the terrorist attack ...

[TEX-50]

What floating vessel? Have you seen the video at all? VU was in the truck. It was done so that the SW was directed as far down as possible in order to break through the canvas.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: TEX-50

What floating vessel? Have you seen the video at all?

How could I recommend watching the 3rd second of the video step by step if I didn't watch it myself?
Multiple viewings are more and more convincing in the version of undermining the floating craft.
Its length is comparable to the width of the supports.
Without knowing the dimensions of the supports and without having adequate software, it is impossible to determine the speed of the vessel. Attempts to do this without exact knowledge and manually give the speed of the vessel about 100 km / h. "Plus minus bast shoes."

PS The drones recently found on the Crimean coast could be used to practice targeting and control of the facility.

PPS Kvachkov agrees that the train was standing during the impact
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zl67ifR5L0 , the beginning of the video).
I assume that the tank was set on fire before the attack for the purpose of guidance.
For the driver of the truck, the installation data is laid out; there is nothing on the locomotive brigade yet.

[Piramidon]

Quote: TEX-50

It was done so that the SW was directed as far down as possible in order to break through the canvas.

It can be seen that the canvas is not broken, but thrown off the supports in its entirety. On the canvas itself, the asphalt coating and markings are not even scratched.

[Apprentice_SAM]

Hello Stepan.
The picture "View of the collapsed span of the bridge from below" shows that there is a breach, it is under water.

[TEX-50]

Which fabric is not broken? Look closely already!

[Apprentice_SAM]

Quote: TEX-50

What floating vessel? Have you seen the video at all? VU was in the truck. It was done so that the SW was directed as far down as possible in order to break through the canvas.

Hello, Vitaly.
Earlier, I also adhered to the version that the explosion was carried out from below, since according to the pictures and videos available at that time, this was the impression.
Now, judging by the image from the satellite and the image of the lower part of the span, I am more inclined to the version of the explosion of the truck: a clear spot at the site of the explosion in the satellite image and the absence of visible signs of an explosion from below in the image "View of the collapsed bridge span from below", at the same time, it is clear that this span was broken (part of the edge of the fault is visible above the water).
But the possibility that there were two synchronous explosions (the second - on the tank), I still do not brush aside.
A mixture of sawdust with diesel could serve as an explosive. fuel. A wooden box, three or four cubes, lined with insulating material from the inside, a "mixture" and, like a detonator, several kg. explosives with a radio-controlled detonator.
The box, if it was alone in the back and had any branded inscriptions (logos), would not have attracted special attention from the inspectors.
And a large cloud of sparks after the explosion - sawdust that did not burn right away.
R.S. Strangely, there is video from a camera located 200-300 meters from the explosion, but not from a camera located directly at the explosion site.

[TEX-50]

There were no synchronized explosions there. And sawdust too. All these mixtures with sawdust, ammonia and diesel fuel, they are too frail, they need to be shoved a lot. Why do it. if you can take hexogen. Well, or TNT at worst? There was TNT or RDX, compactly packed, possibly focused, so that the hydrocarbon went down. The explosion was very powerful, broke through the canvas and, reflected from the water, threw an entire span from the supports. On this basis, I conclude that the VU was focused down. To maximize the likelihood of damage to the web.

Well, yes, look at the video for the size of the "sparks". It can't be sawdust.

[Apprentice_SAM]

Why do it. if you can take hexogen. Well, or TNT at worst?

Reinsurance, in case of checking by dogs or a detector.

The explosion was very powerful, broke through the canvas and, reflected from the water, threw an entire span from the supports.

There were about a ton, if not more, I think.

Well, yes, look at the video for the size of the "sparks"

What confuses you, are they big or, conversely, small?

[TEX-50]

What "detector"? A well-packed explosive will not be found by a dog or a "detector". He won’t find it if the explosive is hermetically packed. And there are introscopes on the approaches. There was no ammonium nitrate there. She is too weak for such things and she needs half a truck to be stuffed.

There were about a ton, if not more, I think.

About 500 kg.

What confuses you, are they big or, conversely, small?

For "sparks, they are gigantic. They are just burning pieces of something, most likely what was in the truck, plus red-hot pieces of metal.

[stankow]

Most likely, the driving of the van occurred according to GPS coordinates. Such a viewer costs a penny and can be mastered in two hours.

[Apprentice_SAM]

Most likely, the driving of the van occurred according to GPS coordinates.

I proceed from the fact that the explosion should have occurred in the immediate vicinity of the tanks. This means that either the sensor was on the tank, or the control was carried out by video cameras on the bridge (connected to the system). Have you seen photos from the explosion site, where there is a pole, with video cameras installed on it? But there are no records of the explosion from these cameras, I have not seen such records yet.

[EXPrompt]

It is sooty from the top of the bridge and not from the bottom ..
They would conditionally blow up the boat, the bulls of the bridge themselves would have suffered, and there were traces of soot on them, fragments of the boat cut through the concrete of the bulls, etc., etc. ... I don’t see them.
Although, in order to completely refute the version with a boat, you need to look at the bulls of the bridge, that part that is under the curved canvas of the bridge ..
But it seems to me that there will be a brand new bull of the bridge without damage ..

[Vladimirsky]

Quote: Mavrikiy

And the train was caught. If he had been caught on the arch, they would have torn the arch .....

By the way, the train was standing, waiting for the truck. Who stopped him, that is the question?

[Maxim G]

We collect these pennies, bit by bit, first for the Donbass, then for our military, and now for the mobilized.

Let the one who is to blame for allowing the explosion out of his own pocket and pays, and the families of the victims. And the most severe trial, execution.

Only not switchmen, but the one who can’t organize shit.

[Normann]

Rather, they blew it up from below, or at the same time. How the span was able to escape) to the side during the explosion from above.

[TEX-50]

Yes, I could. The span was thrown up, moved out in one place, broke in another. That's all.

[Maestro]

Everything is clear ... It has been proven that trying to undermine this bridge does not make any sense.
How next to each railroad lie "spare rails":

so next to the Kerch bridge "spare spans" will soon be stored - for "every firefighter"

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Recall that the NAC of the Russian Federation called the explosion of a truck the cause of the emergency on the Crimean bridge.

Oh well. Floating drone impudently forbidden to see?
Or striped prohibit?
Here https://topwar.ru/203012 already noted:

Rewatched this video freeze frame at 0.25 speed.
During the 3rd second, it is clearly visible how some kind of floating craft is moving under the bridge near the support. Then an explosion.
Apparently, this is a floating drone with a powerful charge.

PS Almost a day has passed, but the officialdom is still exaggerating the version of the truck.
It seems that the special services do not study the available videos.

https://youtu.be/ceyn2SObJVQ

3th second.

[Grem1]

There is no watercraft there, there are waves, but they do not explode!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote from Grem1

There is no watercraft there, there are waves, but they do not explode!

Manually it is possible to watch in increments of ~0.1 sec.
The supports are parallel to each other.
How can you explain that the wave goes along one pillar and does not go along all the others? Well, or at least one more.

[Corsair71 (Anatoly)]

When I watched the video, I got the impression that the explosion was from the side of the bridge, judging by the eddies after the explosion. But I'm not special, but this can be seen, and the first thought was that the explosion was from the bottom and side.

[Corsair71 (Anatoly)]

https://youtu.be/ceyn2SObJVQ
Check out the bottom right corner of the video. At the third second, you can see the extension of the object between the supports. Pause until 03 seconds.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

So I recommended watching the 3rd second in slow motion and freeze frame.

[Bad_gr]

There was a ship there, but this is not at all proof that it was the cause of the explosion.

[Corsair71 (Anatoly)]

[There was a ship there, but this is not proof at all that it was the cause of the explosion.]
This is one of the assumptions, and you yourself are well aware of this. If this object is the cause, then it is clear that it goes beyond the dimensions of the bridge and there is a possibility that part of the explosion went beyond the dimensions. This can explain the flash from the right at the top above the car, as others write about it, although I did not see it. There is no information about the floating object, so the question is why?
Smoke in a haze gave you a version, and you distorted the meaning of his comment.

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

Do you really want the bridge to be blown up by a vessel?!
The experts will figure it out...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira

Do you really want the bridge to be blown up by a vessel?!
The experts will figure it out...

It makes no difference to me, but the presence of an object under the bridge with the version of the truck quickly replicated by the media does not fit.
Maybe the damned are dumb to blame and it’s better to hang on your carrier?
Otherwise, after all, someone needs to declare war.
Striped and Ukrainians have already begun to blame each other.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira

Do you really want the bridge to be blown up by a vessel?!
The experts will figure it out...

And no one wants to consider the version of the VU bookmark on the bridge support. After all, then those responsible for his protection will need to shoot themselves.

[TEX-50]

At the third second, there is a wave, and not an "underwater drone". By the way, this video clearly shows that the SW is directed downwards.

[MBRSS]

Judging by the picture from the air, two spans are partially in the water and two more spans (to the left) sank. And it seems that the support on the left tilted towards the sea. Or it's not support at all.
PS Yeah, if one span rests on three supports, then yes, only 2 spans were covered.

[kig]

This video was shown back in March 2021

It looks like it was all theatre. Cartoon. In nature, obviously, the super-duper cameos no longer worked, and the cargo was checked with an eye. The whole world is giggling.

[Roma 1977]

The world is giggling, and should have been covered in a cold sweat. After all, it won't be long before irreversible changes of a negative nature remain.

[Vadmir]

The world is giggling, and should have been covered in a cold sweat. After all, it won't be long before irreversible changes of a negative nature remain.

The people are waiting for an immediate and tough reaction. But it is much more correct to train the mobilized, to form new units, to concentrate them in the right place. In parallel, create stocks of fuel and ammunition. Wait until the ground freezes. And only after that zhahnut all that is. So that the enemy not only retreated, but flew off hundreds of kilometers, and part of the enemy did not even have time to fly off and ended up in dense boilers.

[Greg Miller]

The people can expect anything... after all, as the Putinists say, these are the problems of the people themselves... And the Putinists themselves, no matter what, want negotiations with Ukraine:

The head of the department of the CIS countries of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Polishchuk noted Moscow's readiness for negotiations with Kyiv.

So in the future, unfortunately, "Minsk-3" or "Khasavyurt-2.0" awaits us. Call this disgrace whatever you want ... Therefore, despite all the terrorist attacks, Putinists stubbornly do not call the leadership of Ukraine terrorists, it's inconvenient as something to these "great" political pygmies from terrorists to beg for peace ...

[Vadmir]

So in the future, unfortunately, "Minsk-3" or "Khasavyurt-2.0" awaits us. Call this disgrace whatever you want ...

Fortunately, Ukraine itself does not want to negotiate. The fact that negotiations will start is a fact, but only after Ukraine suffers a serious defeat. I agree that Moscow really wants negotiations, but in order for them to begin, they will have to go on a decisive offensive. After this offensive, peace will be concluded, but at the same time Russia can get a couple more - three regions of Ukraine.

[Third district]

Quote: Vadmir

but at the same time, Russia can get a couple more - three regions of Ukraine.

What do you hear in Avdiivka, did they take it or not? And you speak for some additional three areas. How much you can engage in hat-taking, because you have already suffered from it specifically.

[EXPrompt]

@Vadmir (Vadim)
We have no choice .. We are obliged to crush Ukraine, and destroy all those who took up arms, or transplant and send to the Kolyma to raise this sunny land (you can say a resort))) all carriers of Saloreich ideas and guides.
Otherwise, it will be an analogue of Ichkeria after Khasavyurt, and we will only wait for one thing, where and what will they blow us up after.
I think that GDP understands this moment like no one else.

[Third district]

Quote: Vadmir

Wait until the ground freezes. And only after that zhahnut all that is.

And now it seems like there, swamps are solid all around. Winter will come and they will say that the cold and snow interfere. Mud in the spring, greenery in the summer and so on ...

[Normann]

And now let the people just hear about the serious concern.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: kig

This video was shown back in March 2021

It looks like it was all theatre. Cartoon. In nature, obviously, the super-duper cameos no longer worked, and the cargo was checked with an eye. The whole world is giggling.

The click does not work, but the video can be viewed if you copy the post in the "reply" field,
tear out the address from there and feed it to the browser.
A video about the inspection technique, but I think that the truck has nothing to do with it.

[svp67]

The main thing is that the supports do not suffer ... otherwise we will definitely not get by with 0,5, we will have to 0,7, otherwise 1,0 ... use

[Taimen]

As Rottenberg appreciates, so be it.

[Santa Fe]

The results of numerous HIMARS hits on the Antonovsky Bridge

Each 227 mm rocket contains 90 kg of warheads (of course, only a small part of the value falls directly on explosives)

The bridge, built according to Soviet standards, survived, the canvas was damaged, but not a single span collapsed

Hymars installation with marks of completed missions

[Prjanik]

Now compare with the explosion power of, presumably, several tons of explosive, it's as if a dozen Iskanders or 50 Himars exploded at a time

[Santa Fe]

Now compare with the power of the explosion

And now calculate the kinetic energy of the Hymars shells - blanks weighing ~ approx. 200 kg after fuel burnout, supersonic, each. Over 30 hits

And what is important, almost all the energy was absorbed by the bridge structure

[Procopius Nesterov]

You are mistaken, there is a close-up photo, the Himers just punched holes in the bridge and the shells went to the bottom.

[Santa Fe]

hymers just punched holes

The thickness of reinforced concrete slabs is close to the value of the caliber of Hymars shells

This means that overcoming such an obstacle required a lot of energy.

Yes, they broke through concrete and power beams, 30 times in a row, in a limited area. Series of 6-8 shells. Plus the explosive effect. Bridge withstood

[Procopius Nesterov]

Well, compare.
the bomb was camouflaged in rolls with construction polyethylene film on 22 pallets with a total weight of 22,77 tons
This is an explosion of 250 hymers at the same time. You yourself wrote that he is 90 kg warhead.

[Santa Fe]

[construction polyethylene film on 22 pallets with a total weight of 22,77 tons

The officially published information about the investigation of the explosion contains a clear discrepancy between the picture of the interior of the truck and the appearance of the truck itself. On the "X-ray" the third axle of the tractor and the spare wheel disappeared!

Which immediately calls into question all the results of the investigation

Therefore, I will not comment on 22,7 tons of explosives and building film

[Procopius Nesterov]

This is an x-ray of the first truck. You just need to read carefully.
The FSB publishes photographs of documents of front companies that participated in the organization of the terrorist attack on the Crimean bridge, and an X-ray of the first truck in which explosives were camouflaged as rolls of film
On a DAF truck registered in Georgia, the cargo crossed the Russian-Georgian border on October 4 through the Upper Lars checkpoint and on October 6 was delivered and unloaded at the Armavir wholesale base in the Krasnodar Territory, later the cargo was reloaded onto a second trucka.
You have the second photo with the second truck on the Crimean bridge, they didn’t do an x-ray.
Your photo with a truck is a screenshot from a video where a traffic cop just looked into it.

[Santa Fe]

you the second photo with the second truck on the Crimean bridge did not do its x-ray.
Your photo with a truck is a screenshot from a video where a traffic cop just looked into it.

Thanks for the interesting explanations.

1. If this is true, 22 tons is really a powerful charge. My comparison with the Antonovsky Bridge was redundant

2. The justifications that have begun do not inspire confidence in the version; the “piano in the bushes” occurs too many times. Standing against the rules of the train on the bridge, the route of explosives - it was closer to carry only through Brazil

[Procopius Nesterov]

You are just offended that the "miracle weapon" did not live up to expectations and could not destroy the bridge, so look for excuses.

[AUL]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

You are just offended that the "miracle weapon" did not live up to expectations and could not destroy the bridge, so look for excuses.

Pay attention - 8 hits in a circle with a diameter of 12 meters! No matter how they blamed the "miracle weapon", the picture speaks for itself. The weapon is really serious!

[Prjanik]

So it is one thing to absorb energy in a structure at different intervals of time, and another thing at one moment at one point. If these 30 himars hit the bridge at once or some kind of fab-3000, I don’t know how with the supports, but the canvas would have been demolished for sure, there are no miracles

[TEX-50]

In 90 kg warhead explosives, about half. If you take all the explosives from the HYMARS shells fired on this bridge, collect them in the right place, focus the direction of the UV and undermine, the span will most likely break.

[EXPrompt]

@Santa Fe (Oleg)
I am not a bridge builder, and unfortunately I cannot comment on the guests on the creation of bridges in the USSR.
But remember, standards have changed a lot since then. According to USSR standards, the bridge in Kerch was impossible, now it is possible ...
Modern bridges are not monolithic, they have various engineering bells and whistles in the form of hinges, sliding guides, etc., etc. In other words, places on the bridge where deformations, thermal expansions, bends, wind loads, etc., are crushed. It may very well be that such a hinge could not withstand the shock load.

[Maestro]

... Each 227 mm rocket contains 90 kg of warheads (of course, only a small part of the value falls directly on explosives) ...

there are only 23 kg of explosives

[kig]

Telegram channel Russia now:

Media: Driving a truck that exploded on the Crimean bridge could be 52-year-old Makhir Yusubov. Uncle of the owner of the car.

Throughout September, the truck traveled around the Krasnodar Territory. On the 22nd, she was spotted at the post of Zukerova Balka. I was driving from Rostov to Krasnodar. From there to Krasnoarmeysky, Slavinsky and finally Temryuksky district, where she was caught on cameras five times.

On October 12, she appeared in the Kanevsky district and drove off to Poltava, disappearing from the cameras. From 17:16 to 04:23 I traveled around Armavir. Further - Caucasian, Timoshevsky and Kalininsky. At 06:XNUMX, she was seen in the village of Svetly Put, Temryuk District, and then disappeared for six hours.

Today at five in the morning the car was in the village of Strelka. The distance between the last two points of the route could be covered in half an hour, but the car covered it in six.

At 5:52 the truck drove onto the bridge, at 6:05 it exploded. Since the day before yesterday, Mahir has not contacted his relatives.

Well, it looks like a new Sudoplatov has appeared in the Ukrainian special services.

[yuriy55]

Quote: kig

Well, it looks like a new Sudoplatov has appeared in the Ukrainian special services.

The driver might have thought he was carrying mineral fertilizers. The assumption of a suicide driver doesn't fit with Nazi behavior when they constantly shit on the sly.

[Procopius Nesterov]

I think so too. Could be remotely detonated. It would be nice to check the cars that were following the truck.

[kig]

Quite logically, they drove at a distance, followed, and at the right moment they pressed the button. If the truck had been wrapped for translucence, then they would have bang there.

[TEX-50]

If the driver was not a suicide bomber, then it's interesting how the explosion was initiated. According to the "worker-peasant" way, through the phone?

Those. you can’t put an observer there anywhere, there should have been a beacon in the truck and some kind of device to receive a signal for detonation. Most likely from a drone.

[yuriy55]

Radio explosive device (possibly a telephone). Bookmark in bags with ammonium nitrate.

[TEX-50]

It's not ammonium nitrate. One phone will not get off, you need to know. when the cargo is moving over the bridge.

[yuriy55]

Quote: TEX-50

It's not ammonium nitrate. One phone will not get off, you need to know. when the cargo is moving over the bridge.

I can only guess by comparing:

[TEX-50]

And why is it here? What can be compared here?

[yuriy55]

Quote: TEX-50

And why is it here? What can be compared here?

Probably the physical process of the explosion...

[TEX-50]

Understood nothing. Niasilil depth so to speak.

There is basically nothing to compare.

[stankow]

Maybe the viewer is based on GPS coordinates. Easy peasy. He himself was engaged in navigators, programmed. The whole device - a GPS / GLONASS / Beidou sensor, a processor, a battery, a fuse, costs a penny and is assembled in a mill. The program "geofencing" is even in the GPS dog collar. And no accompanying car is needed. Add. infa - we know on which canvas the object is moving. The accuracy is up to 2 meters. You can get exactly in the center of the selected span.

[TEX-50]

Maybe so, of course. But if, for example, I was responsible for guarding the bridge, I would put equipment everywhere that jams the GPS or replaces the coordinates. Because, after all, a bomb can be dropped, guided by GPS, and planning more than 100 km.

[stankow]

Not much help. We enter the zone of loss of coordinates, count another N km, and at least with less accuracy, but again we fall. And it's a bad idea to interfere with the navigation of ships spitting through a narrow span.

[TEX-50]

....in the sea. This is not an area target. It is necessary to get into the canvas, and even better into the support. JDAM does not have, for example, the accuracy of a laser-guided UAB. And if he still drowns out everything (I don’t know. You can’t probably change it, there is an encrypted signal in the same place), then he will generally fly into the white light like a penny. In fact, if security is normally carried out, then the most vulnerable spot is civilian transport, including railway!

And in the case under consideration, the most interesting question (which LOMs and all sorts of media do not focus on) is why this particular truck was not inspected either on an introscope or manually. Either there is such a general mess, or it was on that day that the introscope broke down, or they simply "asked" not to inspect.

[TEX-50]

By the way, if you think about it like that, then there were several hundred kilos of explosives for sure, you can’t hide it in your pocket. The truck was not driven to the introscope, and they were not even examined with a dog on the explosive. Would Ukrainian intelligence officers shove so many explosives into cars and generally make such an operation dependent on the case, check it or not? Interesting, right?

[yuriy55]

Quote: TEX-50

Would Ukrainian intelligence officers shove so many explosives into cars and generally make such an operation dependent on the case, check it or not? Interesting, right?

Are you so stubborn in denying the possibility of an ammonium nitrate explosion? Or do you think that the driver was not present at the time of loading? Or do you have your own, time-tested version?

Quote: TEX-50

By the way, if you think about it, then there were several hundred kilos of explosives for sure

A few tons will not pull? It was also necessary to break through the railway tanks with striking elements and set fire to the fuel and lubricants flowing out.
And everything is done elementarily ... On trust ... The question is, where was the car loaded?

[TEX-50]

I absolutely reject ammonium nitrate. At 100%.

A few tons will not pull?

Do not pull.

It was still necessary to break through the w / d with striking elements

There were no damaging elements. This can be seen from the numerous "after" photos.

And everything is done elementary ... On trust ...

What is being done on trust? Is the truck being inspected on trust, or what? At such facilities, for trust, you can sit down for 15 years.

The question is, where did you load the car?

Well, let's say they loaded it in Armavir. In some warehouse. So what?

[Maestro]

I absolutely reject ammonium nitrate...

After being blown up by the wind, numerous "sparks" fall from the sky. But it is known that during high-temperature decomposition, ammonium nitrate decomposes into nitrogen, water and oxygen (!). So the "sparks" are just the wreckage of a truck trailer falling in the oxygen-enriched atmosphere of the place of emergency

[TEX-50]

I read a lot of different nonsense from amateurs, "but the oxygen-enriched atmosphere of the state of emergency", this is certainly at the Darwin and Schnobel awards.

.one. These are not sparks
2. in amino nitrate explosives there is no "oxygen-enriched atmosphere" even close. Because it can't be. The materiel must be read at least at a primitive level.

[stankow]

There was saltpeter, legal. Tonni .. And inside they stuffed a detonator - 3-4 checkers of tola, 400 grams each. Neither the introscope nor the dog can smell.

[TEX-50]

Autumn has come, all the schizophrenics have gone online.

What does the introscope "not learn" from you, sick? The introscope cannot "smell" anything at all. Open your favorite Internet and see what an introscope is. He will determine your ammonia and checkers in one fell swoop, and will also show you exactly where they are. But no one will blow up the bridge with an aamiachka, all the more clean, so that there is an "oxygen-rich atmosphere." But for some reason you don’t even understand this elementary thing, and you already start talking about introscopes.

tons

Millions of tons.

3-4 checkers

Your dog will smell TNT and will not itch if it is not hermetically sealed.

There was no ammonium nitrate even close.

[stankow]

Hermetically packed 3-4 drafts of tola (detonators), the dog does not recognize the contamination among tons of saltpeter. Especially when she, the dog, is gone.

[for]

Some spans are somehow flimsy and light, even the wind can rip them off.

[Dikson]

There will be no answer. Not harsh, not soft and fluffy. There will be this: "Director of the second department of the CIS countries of the Russian Foreign Ministry Alexei Polishchuk said that Russia does not refuse negotiations with Ukraine, but does not intend to discuss with Kyiv the choice of residents of the liberated territories" .. Well, that is, all sorts of options are possible ... except for force. Moscow fought hard, at the most "I don't want to."

[zmenov]

So let's win! Yes, Vladimir Vladimirovich?

[stankow]

Vi, september - no. And Russia-anyway. Even the Americans have no doubt about it!

[yuriy55]

Western satellite system MAXAR

It's time to weed out the curious. Something a lot of them scattered in one place at the wrong time.

Up to 0,5 billion rubles may be needed to restore the damage caused to the Crimean bridge.

It will take much more to restore the country's image and its reputation as a nuclear power.
It's time to wash away the mistakes with the blood of enemies.

[zmenov]

Ka-a-a-k right now we are shibanyom on "places of decision-making !!" That's all Bandera and the end! So, Comrade President?

[Anadyrean]

If there is no return, trust in the government will creep down. During the period of hostilities one cannot be noble. NO ONE appreciates it.

[TEX-50]

There will be no return. It's been clear for at least a month now.

[Bykov.]

What hit? What hit? Mom's clickbaiters.

[fiberboard]

In general, Svidomo congratulated Vladimir Vladimirovich on his anniversary! I wonder what congratulations they will come up with for the New Year? You can't say they don't have brains. ,, If you can't avoid a fight, hit first! The kid said, the kid did! Only if the enemy resisted and started a fight, and victory over him is in doubt, then apparently it is necessary to “make legs”. And then where will you run if dear "partners" really want to see you in The Hague? After all, there are also punks with a pedigree, my grandfather served in the SS tightly, this one has a punisher or a bandit. One word: "leaders of Western Europe". So you have to mumble from the screens, after twenty years, effective leadership,,.

[yuriy55]

Quote: fiberboard

I wonder what congratulations they will come up with for the New Year?

South Stream is still running...
Have you heard how the theory of the Russian TNW strike is being actively promoted in the media?
I suppose if the hornet's nest is not burned out, there is an option to wait for the "dirty bomb" ...

[Horn]

Quote: Vadmir

With GDP, Russia has no past, present, or future ...

There is a war, as history shows, any attempt to replace power during the war ends in military defeat, and not rarely, and the collapse of the entire country. So, at this point in time, there will be no Russia without GDP. We are all in the same boat, or we will all rake out, or we will all drown.

Well, yes, everyone is in the same boat. We do a common thing. But only some row, and others with a gun.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Horn

Well, yes, everyone is in the same boat. We do a common thing. But only one is rowing ...

About rowing:

Between September 20 and 30, the Federal Customs Service (FTS) of Russia recorded a sharp increase in the illegal export of cash from the country. Against the backdrop of a significant increase in passenger traffic, 557 such cases were recorded, which is 93 percent more than in the same period in 2021, Izvestia writes.

[Cuckoo]

The picture was taken at the moment when a railway tanker, hit by an explosion, was on fire on the railway track.

IMHO it was made much later, when everything was already burning down and a ship arrived that supported the sliding 3rd span.

[BAI]

How can one explosion bring down 2 spans?

[for]

Quote: BAI

bring down 2 spans?

Not 2, but 2,5 spans.
It speaks of quality.


.

[stankow]

One collapsed, two slipped. They lie on bearings to compensate for thermal expansion.

[ZoV]

I look at many here, they are directly rejoicing in a childish way about this next humiliation of Russia. But keep in mind that the Russians harness for a long time, but they drive fast
Then it will be too late to squeal when you piss us off specifically

[hhurik]

Quote: MBRBS

the explosion was honestly called an explosion, not a pop.

Why is everyone attached to the word "cotton"? This is how a close explosion is perceived by ear. In my house opposite, the gas exploded (it blew apart several apartments), and so: the sound was just like a deafening COTTON! This is how the human ear perceives a close detonation of explosives. A distant explosion is perceived as a thunderclap, due to the numerous reflections of the beat. waves from different objects. Note that eyewitnesses call the explosions "pops", why should they downplay the effect themselves? It's just how they hear it.

- Hello, Ministry of Emergency Situations? We have a call here, there was a burst of gas, several people self-isolated under the rubble.
- What?
— Negative growth of tenants is possible.
- What?
- In place of the house of the plateau, I say, the surface has stabilized.

[Arkady007]

Where did the burnt spots come from from the bottom of the structures, if the explosion was from above?
Looks like there were several explosions at the same time.

[A. h. 52]

Good photos in terms of resolution. Here is the answer from where detailed information on traffic on the bridge comes from. And the freight train with tanks is clearly visible.
Yesterday at 06.00 it was also not bad to see if the truck clearly pulled in front of the train.

[Piramidon]

Quote: A. h.52

Good photos in terms of resolution. Here is the answer from where detailed information on traffic on the bridge

Judging by the numerous photographs and videos posted online with bird's-eye views of the bridge, drones, which can be launched by anyone, circle over it in flocks. No satellites are needed.

[Sinner]

Everything will be restored. The main thing is not to miss a truck with explosives again.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

For such a sabotage, no one needed to be recruited in Russia, no suicide bombers were needed, there was no need to blame the inspection services, they are not to blame for the fact that the transportation of saltpeter over a road bridge is allowed, and in general, most of this operation was carried out without taking the seat off the office chair.
The plan is something like this:
1. A large batch of saltpeter is ordered via the Internet (to fill a large truck to capacity) with delivery to an address in the Crimea. It is also paid via the Internet, everything is honest, everything is legal.
2. Again, via the Internet, with payment, a suitable carrier is found.
3. During the inspection, nothing illegal was found. There is only saltpeter in the car, no bookmarks, documents are in order.
4. The car starts moving on the bridge and its location is tracked. This is not a problem, not only are trucks now equipped with special equipment in order to track their location online, but it is also possible to track them via mobile communications.
5. Somewhere, in neutral waters, a small boat is on duty, adapted to launch the same barrage of ammunition that, at the right time, are launched and hit this same car.

[Walter-upiter48]

You got me interested in your post. Did you come up with it yourself, or did someone suggest it? Why did you choose saltpeter? Tell in details!!! Very interesting.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

The explosion in Beirut prompted. And it looks like I'm not the only one who did this before. The enemy even figured it out, but our specialists overlooked this hole in the defense.

[leks]

Quote from ZOV

I look at many here, they are directly rejoicing in a childish way about this next humiliation of Russia. But keep in mind that the Russians harness for a long time, but they drive fast
Then it will be too late to squeal when you piss us off specifically

Yes Yes! we heard this more than once over the course of 8 months from higher-ranking persons such as Medvedev, etc., and then some old man almost every day declares from the beginning of SVO.

[16112014nk]

Quote: Mavrikiy

the train was caught in order to bring out the railway as well .. We were lucky today

It was also lucky that it was not a passenger train. And the fact that the bridge is not a two-tier one, otherwise the consequences were much more tragic.
And the question is - when will the same footage with bridges in Kyiv be published?

[Walter-upiter48]

There will certainly be footage from the Kyiv bridge, and more than one. We are loading cars. We promise drivers a long and happy life. As it comes around, so it will respond. Maybe we can apply a more acceptable and rational solution.

[emanuel_fernandez]

My dear Putin, it seems that your enemies no longer fear you and neither respect you too.
I am afraid, that the coward of Zelensky thinks that you are only good at threatening but very bad at fulfilling your promised threats when you are being challenged by him and his dirty Ukrainian Nazis.
Please start to crush all these Neo-Nazi cockroach with all the capacity and all the military power that my beloved Russia possesses. Please Putin.

[Walter-upiter48]

I noticed the design of the fallen section of the bridge. It is metal, not concrete. This can be quickly made and installed. Now, if it were concrete, then it would take much more time for manufacturing, transportation and installation. The steel structure can be quickly welded. Drawings are ready. With operational work, you can restore everything in a month. I am a former fitter myself. I know this job.

[Sergei N 58912062]

"Two spans of the automobile part of the Crimean bridge collapsed..." And in my opinion, judging by the pictures on the network, three spans collapsed!