"He was born to serve the Motherland" - Prigozhin spoke about the new commander of the NVO Surovikin

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"He was born to serve the Motherland" - Prigozhin spoke about the new commander of the NVO Surovikin

Today it became known that commander-in-chief Sergei Surovikin has become the commander of the troops in the NVO zone. He participated in the second Chechen campaign, twice led the Russian military group in Syria, during a special operation he led the encirclement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Gorsky and Zolote in the LPR.

The appointment of Surovikin in response to the request of the publication Live24 commented businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin, who knew the general personally. According to him, Surovikin is the most competent commander in the Russian army and was born in order to serve his Motherland.



We all remember the events at the White House in August 1991, and so Surovikin is the officer who, without hesitation, having received an order, got into a tank and rushed to save his country

- said Prigogine.

The businessman himself participated in the above-mentioned events, however, he was on the side of the protesters. He admitted that they were all mistaken then and completely in vain destroyed the "fundamentally assembled country called the USSR", for which now they have to pay.

Together with the protesters that day, I went to the square and overturned trolleybuses so as not to return the USSR. For what? For the sake of an extra piece of sausage or boiled jeans. The results of today's problems were laid down in that distant 1991.

By the way, those who destroyed the USSR are still alive and well, they manage factories and factories, they are called by one name - Russian oligarchs.

Recall that earlier Yevgeny Prigozhin criticized the progress of the special military operation. Numerous sanctions have been imposed against Prigozhin by Western countries.

Sergey Surovikin in 2021 received the rank of army general. He himself is from Novosibirsk. Since October 2017, he has served as Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces. He has a number of state awards, including the stars of the Hero of Russia and the Hero of the LPR.
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  1. 0
    9 October 2022 17: 05
    Looks like the commander has recently changed...
    1. +17
      9 October 2022 17: 14
      This is a man of duty, I personally like him as a military commander, he did not hide at the headquarters, pulling the strap. Most of all, he earned my trust on the fact of a biography of 1991, when a stupefied crowd lifted a drunken coachman onto a tank, he fought for the preservation of the USSR, many troubles and blood could have been avoided today and the world would not now be faced with the choice “To be, or not to be". I hope he will prove himself, the war is his business.
      1. +3
        9 October 2022 17: 27
        At 24, he is already a captain. Like this? Got a lieutenant at the age of 17, or what? Or was the captain assigned ahead of schedule?
        1. +17
          9 October 2022 17: 35
          In 1987 he graduated with a gold medal from the Omsk Higher All-Arms Command School named after M.V. Frunze. After graduating from college, he served as commander of a motorized rifle platoon, commander of a motorized rifle company in the 2nd Guards Motorized Rifle Division [4]. In 1989, he distinguished himself in the exercises, driving away an infantry fighting vehicle engulfed in fire and equipped with ammunition from a mass congestion of military personnel.

          In August 1991, with the rank of captain, he served as commander of the 1st motorized rifle battalion of the 2nd Guards motorized rifle division. The battalion, consisting of 20 BMP-1s and one BRDM-2, was sent by order of the State Emergency Committee to set up commandant posts on the Garden Ring. During the incident in the tunnel on the Garden Ring on the night of August 20-21, the column was stopped by a crowd, blockages were built on the road. Surovikin addressed the crowd with warnings that there were ammunition in the BMP, demanded to let the convoy through and fired two warning shots upwards from the service weapon. Then, with part of the convoy (12 combat vehicles), he broke through the rubble and left the place of conflict, and during the continued attacks of the crowd on the remaining combat vehicles, three young people were killed: Dmitry Komar (crushed by caterpillars while maneuvering an infantry fighting vehicle), Ilya Krichevsky and Vladimir Usov (shot dead) . The attackers burned one infantry fighting vehicle, another one was damaged, 6 servicemen were injured, burned and injured[5]. After the defeat of the GKChP, Surovikin was arrested, he was in custody for about 7 months during the preliminary investigation. As a result of the investigation, the charge was dropped, as he was following orders from his superiors. Moreover, Surovikin was not only released, but promoted by the personal order of Russian President Boris Yeltsin. Understanding the actions of Captain Surovikin, Yeltsin bluntly said "... and Major Surovikin should be released immediately." Thus, making it clear that he is raising him in rank for the exemplary performance of military duty
          1. +5
            9 October 2022 17: 42
            They wrote that his deputy shot himself in his office
          2. -8
            9 October 2022 18: 17
            understandably, personally dedicated to the cause (however, it is no secret that among the GKChP there were enough Yeltsin people
            1. +1
              10 October 2022 10: 38
              Quote from John Smith
              however, it is no secret that there were enough Yeltsin people among the GKChP
              Look, there were not so many participants there, so as not to name the "Yeltsin people" by name. Yazov, Pugo, Kryuchkov, Yanaev, Pavlov, Baklanov, Starodubtsev and Tizyakov are members of the State Emergency Committee. Which of them is "Yeltsin" and who is not, you probably know? For some reason I'm sure you won't.
              1. 0
                10 October 2022 13: 48
                the one who was pardoned by Yeltsin by personal decree, and there were enough of them) google to help
                1. 0
                  10 October 2022 14: 27
                  Quote from John Smith
                  Google to help
                  And you there too.
                  Quote from John Smith
                  the one whom Yeltsin pardoned by personal decree
                  Is this direct evidence for you? It can be said for sure that those pardoned have ceased to be dangerous for those who nominated Yeltsin as the leader of the coup d'état. This is their PR stunt. The rest is gossip for now.
                  1. 0
                    10 October 2022 15: 21
                    with one mouth we scold Yeltsin with the other, we defend his bastards / nurture this literary word if anything /
          3. -11
            9 October 2022 19: 08
            that is, Yeltsin bought him and he probably participated in the execution of parliament
          4. 0
            10 October 2022 15: 35
            The only real officer during the "events" of August 1991. He would have the same marshal ....
        2. +13
          9 October 2022 18: 12
          I once served in an artillery regiment, where a major was appointed commander of the regiment. At 34. He had several colonels and a half dozen lieutenant colonels under him. Three months later he was given a lieutenant colonel. These are the miracles. By the way, early. I remember my last name, but I won't say it. And he knew his wife - a wonderful person, she worked as a nurse in the medical unit. She did dressings for me and treated me to sweets. I was a boy. Just from home.
          1. +5
            9 October 2022 18: 33
            I once served in an artillery regiment, where a major was appointed commander of the regiment. At 34.

            My battalion commander at the age of 29 became a major, an excellent man, not a toady and not a lizun.
            1. +3
              9 October 2022 19: 55
              When I served, then the captain is 5 years after graduation, the major - 8 years, lieutenant colonel - 12 years. School usually ends at 21-22 years old. Total: 21-22 years plus 12 years equals 34. Right on time.
          2. +7
            9 October 2022 19: 07
            Quote from nellyjuri
            I once served in an artillery regiment, where a major was appointed commander of the regiment. At 34. He had several colonels under him.

            How many colonels were in your regiment and in what positions? Usually there is one colonel's position in the regiment - the commander of the regiment.
            1. 0
              9 October 2022 20: 11
              How many colonels were in your regiment and in what positions? Usually there is one colonel's position in the regiment - the commander of the regiment.

              If memory serves, then these are cropped parts. That's what I think they were called.
            2. -2
              9 October 2022 20: 17
              Quote: Piramidon
              How many colonels were in your regiment and in what positions? Usually there is one colonel's position in the regiment - the commander of the regiment.

              I served in the unit where the department was commanded by a major. And this is not an officer special forces, but an ordinary part, where the majority are conscripts. There were plenty of colonels for these 400-500 people (approximately).
            3. 0
              10 October 2022 12: 02
              In court regiments, colonels sometimes serve as majors ... just not to go to Transbaikalia, the Urals or the Far East negative But it's not massive... it happens
              1. 0
                10 October 2022 13: 16
                Quote: Invoce
                In court regiments, colonels sometimes serve in major positions ...

                He wrote about the artillery regiment. Well, if only some kind of court salute.
            4. 0
              10 October 2022 12: 58
              I can't say exactly. For everyone. But 100% is the chief of staff. And the political officer. And it seems to be related to materiel. But I find it difficult to name a third.
              The chief of staff retired. He had a year left when I arrived.
        3. -5
          9 October 2022 18: 13
          Well you give. They probably did not study the rapid career of Sergei Kauchukovich.
        4. -2
          9 October 2022 18: 28
          nothing unusual
          I got a lieutenant at 17.
          Starley - at 19.
          1. +16
            9 October 2022 18: 39
            And now you are an army general ?? or even a starley?
            1. 0
              9 October 2022 18: 46
              Starley.
              Only now I have not been in the service since the age of 01.
              But why are you asking?
          2. +2
            9 October 2022 19: 11
            Quote: Denis812
            I got a lieutenant at 17

            Where? In the 10th grade of high school?
            1. +4
              9 October 2022 19: 21
              no, at the police school.
              at 15 he graduated from a regular school, at 17 SFMSSSH.
              Got a lieutenant in 99
              On the second business trip at zero, he got ahead of schedule starley. There are such cases.
          3. +3
            9 October 2022 19: 28
            Cut the sturgeon though. It's too much. laughing
            1. +2
              9 October 2022 19: 50
              I believe that you doubt my words.
              To your regret, I really went my way as described above.
              Your distrust is sad.
              You can get photos, including mine, from the fund of the Komi Republic by requesting from the OMON of Syktyvkar.
              1. 0
                9 October 2022 21: 28
                No, what are you, I have no doubt that you, to put it mildly, are carrying a blizzard. The Internet is like that, it will endure everything. laughing
                In reality, the youngest officers in those years were graduates of DOSSAF courses, junior lieutenants, at the age of 19.
                1. 0
                  12 October 2022 15: 57
                  Not at all.
                  You go to school at the age of six.
                  During the educational reform in the 90s, you jump from 4th to 6th grade.
                  You leave school at 15.
                  2 years of police high school and you are a lieutenant.
                  17 years.

                  Everything is very simple.
                  1. -1
                    12 October 2022 19: 45
                    First, do not confuse officer ranks with special. police ranks.
                    Secondly, a two-year police school, this is a junior lieutenant of the police.
                    Thirdly, no one will assign the title until the age of majority.
                    However, you can document this.
            2. +3
              9 October 2022 22: 09
              I agree, at 17 lieutenant an overdose. Minor even more, and the university still should be behind.
              1. +1
                10 October 2022 13: 03
                It is said that in some Muslim countries the age of majority comes from the age of 15. Maybe he got a title there. request
              2. +1
                12 October 2022 15: 57
                Not at all.
                You go to school at the age of six.
                During the educational reform in the 90s, you jump from 4th to 6th grade.
                You leave school at 15.
                2 years of police high school and you are a lieutenant.
                17 years.

                Everything is very simple.
          4. +1
            10 October 2022 12: 08
            I believe it is definitely true! Here on the site, you can get a starley at the age of 12! In some computer games, too, "military" ranks mark gamers from the gray mass of players. That's just according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the draft age (when a citizen can become a warrior and be responsible for his weapons) is 18 years old!
            And the Federal Law on Military Duty and the Armed Forces says that citizens who have reached the age of 17 are admitted to military schools! Something like this
        5. 0
          9 October 2022 19: 37
          Most likely he was immediately awarded the title of starley, he graduated with honors.
          1. +1
            9 October 2022 19: 42
            No, they gave a lieutenant. Starley was given later.
      2. -9
        9 October 2022 17: 29
        Quote from Silver99
        I personally like him as a military leader

        Let's wait and see what kind of "pepper". hi
        1. +12
          9 October 2022 18: 09
          It's you pepper, and he is an army general with a decent track record.
          1. -7
            9 October 2022 18: 46
            Quote: sifgame
            It's you pepper, and he is an army general with a decent track record.

            What's the point? Well, they put someone alone, it doesn’t solve anything, so you look and they will remove him. Kvachkov V. recently gave another analysis of the situation: no matter what generals are there now, they will fight nothing. And there is only one way out - all three "horses" must be changed at the crossing, because these are not horses at all, and we simply will not cross with them, - this is his fair remark. I think it's obvious to everyone now. Perhaps even overripe.
            1. +3
              9 October 2022 19: 17
              Where did you get such a smart, still Kvachkov analysis is now the very thing you need to win? For calling for a change of power during the hostilities, you should probably be fucked. I think it's obvious to everyone now. Three hours is already overdue. Perhaps.
              1. 0
                9 October 2022 19: 51
                Quote: sifgame
                still Kvachkov's analysis is now the very thing you need to win?
                The analysis of any professional, in any business, is always only useful! And if a person is also rooting for this very thing, then it is doubly useful! During the Second World War, the commanders were changed, and the generals were put up against the wall, and they won! If there is a problem, then the sooner they get rid of it, the better for everyone, and especially for everyone who is on the front line! The Minister of Defense has 9 deputies, of which only two are military personnel!
                1. +2
                  10 October 2022 00: 02
                  The professional did not foresee that overtaking
                  oncoming lane, Chubais will leave from under the scattering of fragments.
                  1. 0
                    11 October 2022 22: 26
                    Quote: Alex777
                    The professional did not foresee that overtaking
                    oncoming lane, Chubais will leave from under the scattering of fragments.
                    Search the net for an interview with Kvachkov and what exactly he was charged with, it will be useful. There was not a word about the redhead in the accusation, and then, in what you wrote about, the performers did it.
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            2. 0
              10 October 2022 13: 10
              Quote from Sagetaus
              all three "horses" must be changed at the crossing

              Yeah, disband the entire army and recruit a new one. fool
          2. -2
            9 October 2022 22: 12
            Quote: sifgame
            It's you pepper, and he is an army general with a decent track record.

            And I'm WBD and a pensioner laughing And I know the trench truth and not only it. hi
            And I don't need to poke! And then I break my finger.
            1. +1
              9 October 2022 23: 49
              Well then, it’s not so respectful to a military general, but yes, you can break your finger for something on you. Why are military pennies on VO so jealous of appealing to YOU? Maybe they are so polite? Well no. Maybe intellectuals? Well no. So why? Probably strive to become polite intellectuals.
            2. 0
              10 October 2022 13: 13
              Quote: fif21
              And I'll break my finger

              But these are already threats in the style of the middle group of a kindergarten, like - "I will find you, I will come to your house ..."
      3. -2
        9 October 2022 19: 09
        Quote from Silver99
        This is a man of duty

        That is, on the basis of debt, he stole weapons and sold them to militants in Tajikistan?
    2. -10
      9 October 2022 17: 42
      Quote: BecmepH
      Looks like the commander has recently changed...

      Iosif Vissarionovich also changed, only he shot the previous ones.
      1. +6
        9 October 2022 17: 54
        Give an example ... The comment is short ...
      2. +8
        9 October 2022 18: 09
        Everyone? Or just Pavlova? As far as I remember, neither Zhukov, nor Konev, nor Timoshenko were shot. You need to be more specific in your statements.
        1. -9
          9 October 2022 18: 19
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          As far as I remember, neither Zhukov, nor Konev, nor Timoshenko were shot. You need to be more specific in your statements.

          History should be taught not according to the Unified State Examination, but according to Soviet textbooks.
          1. +4
            9 October 2022 19: 16
            Quote: carpenter
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            As far as I remember, neither Zhukov, nor Konev, nor Timoshenko were shot. You need to be more specific in your statements.

            History should be taught not according to the Unified State Examination, but according to Soviet textbooks.

            That is, you have nothing to answer? Actually, I didn't doubt it. They blurted out without thinking, now you are looking for excuses. Well, can you still list all the removed front commanders who were shot? It was the commanders of the fronts, because there was a conversation about them. You need to learn not only Soviet textbooks, but the more information the better. By the way, it looks like you just didn’t study Soviet school textbooks. I studied in the seventies, and so then in the textbooks there was not a word about the execution of Pavlov or any other commanders. There was not a word about Stalin either. So I don’t know what Soviet textbooks you read. I graduated from high school at 73.
            1. -4
              9 October 2022 20: 49
              Quote: Ulan.1812
              Do you have anything to answer? Actually, I didn't doubt it.

              Get, "Child USE -
              On July 22, 1941, the commander of the Western Front, General Pavlov, and his deputies were shot. They were put in charge of the military catastrophe of the first days of the war. The state repressive machine did not stop there. In total, during the years of the Great Patriotic War, 56 generals of the Red Army were shot.
              They were sentenced to capital punishment:
              "for cowardice, unauthorized abandonment of strategic points without the permission of the high command, the collapse of command and control, inaction of the authorities"
              Army General Pavlov Dmitry Grigorievich
              Major General Oborin Stepan Ilyich
              Major General Tank. troops Goltsev Nikolai Dmitrievich
              Colonel General Loktionov, Alexander Dmitrievich
              Major General, Fedor Konstantinovich
              Major General Vasilchenko Nikolai Nikolaevich,
              Lieutenant General Kachalov Vladimir Yakovlevich, Lieutenant General Ponedelin Pavel Grigorievich (verdict overturned)
              Major General Kirillov Nikolai Kuzmich (sentence overturned)
              And of course Vlasov.
              And this is 10 out of 56.

              Learn the story.
              1. +3
                9 October 2022 21: 21
                Do you misunderstand what is written young man? Russian language is not native?
                Do you repeat? Well, well, initially it was ONLY about the removed front commanders. This is when Vlasov commanded the front? In your dreams? I know your list better than you. Dear, if you said something without thinking, then you don’t need to play up and replace arguments with rudeness. Good luck.
                1. -1
                  10 October 2022 05: 18
                  Quote: Ulan.1812
                  Well, well, initially it was ONLY about the removed front commanders.

                  What front, there was not a word about the front ..
                  1. 0
                    10 October 2022 09: 56
                    Quote: carpenter
                    Quote: Ulan.1812
                    Well, well, initially it was ONLY about the removed front commanders.

                    What front, there was not a word about the front ..

                    Really? That is, Pavlov commanded a battalion? Thanks, I didn't know. Dear, I specifically clarified about the front commanders.
            2. -1
              9 October 2022 22: 41
              In school history textbooks, both in the 60s and in the 70s and 80s, there was information that Stalin headed the State Defense Committee.
              1. 0
                10 October 2022 09: 59
                I studied just at 63-73. I don’t remember mentioning Stalin in school textbooks. But I remember the portraits of Khrushchev.
                After his resignation, they disappeared.
      3. +6
        9 October 2022 18: 19
        I will be more straightforward, unlike those who wrote to you above, as always, you are blatantly lying.
        1. -1
          10 October 2022 10: 26
          Quote: Spichka
          I will be more straightforward, unlike those who wrote to you above, as always, you are blatantly lying.

          Are you talking to me? Thank you, very highly intelligent answer is "myself".
          Father Fyodor is not your relative? I will disappoint you to lie "as always", I simply did not have the opportunity, I registered only a few days ago. You obviously have me mixed up with someone else.
    3. +8
      9 October 2022 17: 43
      Quote: BecmepH
      Looks like the commander has recently changed...

      He didn't exist at all. There was a commander of the western district, there are commanders of army corps in the southern direction and in the northern one, but there was no unified command of the entire operation, of all the troops, like the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      1. +8
        9 October 2022 17: 45
        I won’t give an advance ... we’ll see. I’ll be glad if we were lucky with the officer.
      2. +1
        9 October 2022 18: 24
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        Quote: BecmepH
        Looks like the commander has recently changed...

        He didn't exist at all. There was a commander of the western district, there are commanders of army corps in the southern direction and in the northern one, but there was no unified command of the entire operation, of all the troops, like the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

        And who was General of the Army Alexander Dvornikov?))
        And he also distinguished himself in Syria ...
        1. -1
          9 October 2022 19: 19
          Quote: BecmepH
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          Quote: BecmepH
          Looks like the commander has recently changed...

          He didn't exist at all. There was a commander of the western district, there are commanders of army corps in the southern direction and in the northern one, but there was no unified command of the entire operation, of all the troops, like the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

          And who was General of the Army Alexander Dvornikov?))
          And he also distinguished himself in Syria ...

          I do not argue. But maybe you will voice his position, otherwise I forgot. This is without any jokes, I really do not remember.
          1. 0
            10 October 2022 13: 58
            Quote: Ulan.1812
            But maybe you will voice his position, otherwise I forgot. This is without any jokes, I really do not remember.

            Commander of the Russian military forces in a special operation in Ukraine
            1. -1
              10 October 2022 14: 25
              As far as I remember, there was no such position until recently. And if the sources do not lie, then Dvornikov was suspended on June 25th. I just didn’t hear about the fact that there was an order to appoint Dvornikov as commander of the NWO. Here is the appointment of Surovikin announced. Although maybe it was inside the General Staff and the Moscow Region and was not announced.
              In addition, simply appointing a commander without an appropriate structure, the headquarters of the commander, etc. is half the battle.
      3. +4
        9 October 2022 18: 29
        It's just how stupid you can think of! The warring army had no commander! Here is the result! Probably one "genius" was going to appropriate the "victory"!
      4. 0
        10 October 2022 11: 01
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        unified command of the entire operation, all troops, like the Armed Forces of Ukraine
        How is the APU? Is it someone from the Pentagon or NATO? Or is this a joke about Zaluzhny
        1. -1
          10 October 2022 14: 28
          Quote: sniperino
          Quote: Ulan.1812
          unified command of the entire operation, all troops, like the Armed Forces of Ukraine
          How is the APU? Is it someone from the Pentagon or NATO? Or is this a joke about Zaluzhny

          Calm down ... of course a joke if it's convenient for you to think so.
          I'm talking about Zaluzhny's official position and that we didn't have one until recently. I also know how to joke, but there is little funny here.
  2. +12
    9 October 2022 17: 05
    Prigozhin is well acquainted with Putin, he has the opportunity to express his disagreement as actively as possible. Already two antipodes - Strelkov and Solovyov estimate the course of the operation almost the same.
    1. -5
      9 October 2022 18: 14
      Shapiro doesn't appreciate anything at all. He is lowered a temnik, he works it out.
  3. +17
    9 October 2022 17: 07
    May God guide your steps towards victory.
    1. -7
      9 October 2022 17: 17
      You give instructions to God Himself, Carlos! Boldly, boldly! laughing
    2. +3
      9 October 2022 17: 46
      Quote from Carlos Sala
      May God guide your steps towards victory.

      Trust in God, don't be fooled yourself.
      1. -7
        9 October 2022 18: 09
        on God, it means on your own ... how it goes.
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    1. -29
      9 October 2022 17: 14
      Worse. The man is deeply systemic. Surovikin killed his people in 1991, participated in major corruption and criminal scandals, destroyed Aleppo, and after his work as commander-in-chief, our Air Force is not combat-ready, and there are big questions about air defense.
      So I don't expect anything good from his work.
      1. +23
        9 October 2022 17: 24
        in 1991 he defended the Motherland to which he swore allegiance, and then the people were killed when the Union was torn apart, when a bloody wave of color revolutions swept, when they conducted drunken ones, when they fled from the Western Group of Forces ....... it was you and people like you who lifted Yeltsin, Abramovich to the top , Berezovsky, Chubais, Gaidar .......... Today's blood is the echoes of the era that you and your kind created ((((((((((((((((
        1. -17
          9 October 2022 17: 29
          Quote from Silver99
          Yeltsin, Abramovich, Berezovsky, Chubais, Gaidar......

          In 1991, he carried out the order of the State Emergency Committee, then he carried out the orders of the people written above - the enemies of the State Emergency Committee. It turns out that it makes no difference to whom to serve, what principles can we talk about? Who is he after that?
          1. +20
            9 October 2022 17: 53
            The GKChP was created by members of the government under the leadership of the prime minister, the second person in the government, Gorbachev simply faded away. But Yeltsin just acted illegally.
            And the officer, who is being discussed here, carried out and carries out the orders of the legitimate government (and the State Emergency Committee, and then Yeltsin as the legitimate head of state, and Putin). Armies intermeddle in politics - a direct step towards civil war.
            1. +1
              9 October 2022 22: 45
              Yanaev, head of the GKChP, was the vice-president of the USSR, was declared acting. President of the USSR. Prime Minister Pavlov was a member of the State Emergency Committee, but was in it on the sidelines.
          2. -13
            9 October 2022 17: 58
            And in 1993 he already had a full load of ammunition and he fired at the White House? If he shot, then he has no excuse.
          3. +5
            9 October 2022 18: 35
            Hard case! And white generals and officers served with the Reds! Zhukov, Rokossovsky, early. Gene. Timoshenko headquarters? I realized that in your opinion they were scoundrels and radishes! And what is the name of General Karbyshev? Probably the person was not principled in your opinion!
          4. 0
            10 October 2022 11: 12
            Quote from cold wind
            It turns out he does not care who to serve
            The military serve the Motherland, not Gorbachev or Yeltsin. Someone's personal servants are called differently, regardless of whether they wear shoulder straps or not: at best, they are "batman", but they have been canceled, and today there are other definitions.
        2. +2
          9 October 2022 17: 49
          [quote = Silver99] .. it was you and others like you who brought Yeltsin, Abramovich, Berezovsky, Chubais, Gaidar to the top .... [/ quote

          Rightly noticed.
        3. -1
          9 October 2022 17: 55
          This is not the first time I have seen this episode in print.
        4. +3
          9 October 2022 19: 13
          If he had done what he wanted (or ordered), then this war would not have happened. ! We must pay tribute, tried to prevent the collapse!
      2. +13
        9 October 2022 17: 27
        More like a "undercover squabble" He was in the infantry, and suddenly became the head of the Aerospace Forces (how the Aerospace Forces works, we now perfectly see HOW SU34 is thrown at low-level FABs! You can’t argue with TALENT) plus, let’s be honest, he was “dismissed” at one time for trading weapons at base 201, they didn’t give a criminal offense then. It looks more like the guys merged one General and put another one close to them in spirit, so to speak hi
        1. -3
          9 October 2022 22: 19
          I agree with Spirit, this track is not smooth, not smooth.
      3. TIR
        +10
        9 October 2022 17: 27
        In your opinion, Aleppo had to be stormed using only small arms and grenades? Well, then you are not enough in the Donbass. 200 thousand people like you are not enough. And there would be 200 thousand graves
      4. -7
        9 October 2022 17: 48
        Aleppo was a nest of Islamic terrorists trained and paid by the United States. You have done well to cleanse this city in Syria of all jihadist rot. Reinforcements will arrive soon, drug addicts have fled to Georgia and Finland, but hundreds of thousands of the best will soon be on the front lines, and Russia will launch a winter counteroffensive. Let's hope that Kadyrov and Mizintsev are already in command with Progozhin and bring out the shaman Shoigu and send him with Lapin to the Arctic. As for Gerasimov, it is necessary to achieve an honorary position for him, but already outside the battle arena. Shamanov, Vladimir Shamanov, together with Mizintsev, Kadyrov and Progozhin, should lead. Now the Russian people must forge an unbreakable alliance with President Putin to continue the war until victory.
        1. +1
          9 October 2022 18: 22
          The president has already concluded an alliance with the oligarchs. And there is no place for people.
        2. -3
          9 October 2022 19: 05
          a good fairy tale, just for such dim-witted roundworms like you
      5. +10
        9 October 2022 18: 08
        Quote from cold wind
        Worse. The man is deeply systemic. Surovikin killed his people in 1991, participated in major corruption and criminal scandals, destroyed Aleppo, and after his work as commander-in-chief, our Air Force is not combat-ready, and there are big questions about air defense.
        So I don't expect anything good from his work.

        who he killed, it’s people like you who killed millions of people in the USSR, it was you who had to be crushed with tanks, as the Chinese did in their time
      6. +1
        9 October 2022 19: 15
        Quote from cold wind
        Surovikin killed his people in 1991,

        It is your opinion...

        And here is another opinion:
        when the stupefied crowd lifted a drunken coachman onto the tank, he fought for the preservation of the USSR,

        And I like the second option much more than yours.
        Of course, it may be that then, in 91, a person was simply following orders. But it is also worthy of respect. At least he has nothing to reproach himself with now. Unlike many of us.
  5. +8
    9 October 2022 17: 09
    I keep my fists so that the general can turn everything on the right track soldier
    1. +1
      9 October 2022 18: 04
      Yes, and whatever happened with Lapin. At first they sang odes, and after a couple of months they kicked
      1. +6
        9 October 2022 18: 36
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Yes, and whatever happened with Lapin. At first they sang odes, and after a couple of months they kicked
        Lapin was not responsible for the Kharkov direction! He was thrown to the rescue with part of his grouping and did everything to ensure that the landslide retreat did without significant losses. And today he remains the commander of the group in the Svatovo-Lysichansk area.
        1. +1
          9 October 2022 19: 22
          Quote: Vladimir61
          Quote: dmi.pris
          Yes, and whatever happened with Lapin. At first they sang odes, and after a couple of months they kicked
          Lapin was not responsible for the Kharkov direction! He was thrown to the rescue with part of his grouping and did everything to ensure that the landslide retreat did without significant losses. And today he remains the commander of the group in the Svatovo-Lysichansk area.

          HERE!!! What is it about that there was no single command. Only in certain areas.
  6. -10
    9 October 2022 17: 10
    Now they’ll hype him up, and then he’ll be hyped for defeats! All the generals should be driven there! And everyone should be given a regiment to prove their professional suitability. prepared decision of the prosecutor
    1. -1
      9 October 2022 17: 20
      If everyone is given a regiment, what will be left of these regiments in a week? For the sake of orders, stars and promotions... Well, I think it's understandable...
  7. +2
    9 October 2022 17: 10
    You can put the most gifted and the best in the world, but if the political struggle continues to slow down the army, even such a person will not be able to realize his full potential.
  8. -1
    9 October 2022 17: 15
    The one who has already managed to see "from below" all the actual problems of the army, understands their causes and guesses about ways to eliminate them, will do the best. Someone like Khodakovsky, if you take one of the most famous. I would like to believe that "the coach guessed right with the replacement"
    1. TIR
      +5
      9 October 2022 17: 32
      The question is not the information content of problems and the necessary solutions, but the fact that politics and money lead the NWO. No matter how gifted the commander is, he will be forced to work within strict limits. If you put politics and money on one side of the scale, then the lives of soldiers and defeats will already fall on the other. We are now a complete copy of society arr. 1915-1916. There are absolutely no parallels with 1941-1945.
      1. 0
        9 October 2022 17: 50
        Yes, capitalism outside the window has not disappeared anywhere, but the feeling that the command is strongly out of touch with reality and is itself blinded by beautiful numbers in the reports. So, ceteris paribus, the one who at least saw the real picture will do better
        1. TIR
          +1
          9 October 2022 18: 04
          What do you think the former commanders did not see retreats? And they are better aware of the lack of weapons than we are, but they did not make any efforts to correct this situation. Well, maybe they did something, but the result of their efforts is not visible. Such eyewash still got away with in peacetime, but now, in wartime, this is already a crime. To summarize everything in one word, the main problem is that the military leadership is still working as in peacetime. This is the whole root of the problem. Why are the Armed Forces of Ukraine pressing right now? Yes, because they have a country and all the command, including the president, live according to military regulations! And in our country, the president thinks more about peaceful things, and the generals still think as they always thought. It is necessary to shake up the generals hard and even with a share of cruelty!
          1. -3
            9 October 2022 18: 26
            I agree. But perhaps they think that toughness is fraught, because the president has surrounded himself with those he trusts. What happens if he starts chopping from the shoulder? The mobilization was probably also delayed to the last, because they are not sure of the support of the people (and they carry it out carefully, declaring only 300 thousand). Perhaps there are opposing currents at the top - a struggle for influence that we do not know about. In general, you figured me out - my optimism is far-fetched
  9. +1
    9 October 2022 17: 17
    ***
    “Therefore, by their fruits you shall know them.”
    (Math 7: 20)
    ***
  10. +5
    9 October 2022 17: 20
    Did anyone serve with Surovkin S.V., under his command, when he moved up the career ladder? For example, I served at the communications center at the headquarters of the division, where Colonel Baranov A.I. .It was nice to know that he retired as a General of the Army and a Hero of Russia.
  11. -1
    9 October 2022 17: 30
    I have nothing for the new boss. Time will tell. But Mr. Prigogine is annoying. What is this circus? Clowns like Prigogine are ruining the Russian army. The honor of an officer, which has always been in the first place in Russia. And now all the officers are businessmen. They forgot about honor, about duty to the Motherland.
    Peace for everyone. ✌️
    1. -4
      9 October 2022 18: 00
      Does Prigogine annoy you? Penalties practically. Just a little more money.
    2. +3
      9 October 2022 18: 43
      Maybe I don’t understand and don’t know something. But Prigogine had nothing to do with the officer corps, not a bit. The athlete, he was convicted (half of Russia), then he went into business. Restaurants, construction. Well, and PMCs.
  12. +9
    9 October 2022 17: 34
    Damn, leave Surovikin alone already.
    Let him command without any praises.
  13. +1
    9 October 2022 17: 36
    Suspicious reviews...
    1. -1
      9 October 2022 18: 58
      Probably people rejoice at any new appointment, here he is, the Savior of Russia! I have nothing against Surovkin. Maybe this is right when a person is under the pressure of a load of failures and he needs to be changed. specificity.
  14. 0
    9 October 2022 17: 39
    "He was born to serve the Motherland"

    Involuntarily, the sarcasm about "stood with a candle" suggests itself. Let's see why he was born on the facts. Praise the dish before dinner bad manners ..
    1. -2
      9 October 2022 17: 58
      About the candle, this is a little earlier, about nine months! laughing
  15. -6
    9 October 2022 17: 44
    Finally. How on the western front of the Second World War they change Pavlov for Zhukov.
    True, then Pavlov was shot.
    1. +4
      9 October 2022 18: 23
      On the Western Front, Pavlov was replaced by Timoshenko. Zhukov was removed from the post of early for failures. General Staff and sent to command a secondary Reserve Front. Where he managed to rehabilitate himself along Yelnya and again won the trust of the Supreme. On the western front, Zhukov replaced Konev already in the battle for Moscow.
      Quote from witcher
      Finally. How on the western front of the Second World War they change Pavlov for Zhukov.
      True, then Pavlov was shot.

      Pavlov was replaced by Timoshenko. Zhukov was removed from the post of head of the General Staff and sent to command a secondary Reserve Front, where he was rehabilitated near Yelnya. And again won the trust of the Supreme. Zhukov was appointed commander of the Zap. front after Konev, already in the battle for Moscow. Konev was appointed his deputy.
    2. 0
      9 October 2022 18: 35
      How on the western front of the Second World War they change Pavlov for Zhukov.

      Pavlov was replaced by Tymoshenko. It looks like Pavlov was made a scapegoat. The main blow of the Germans was on the Western Military District, so it was defeated the fastest, and it is unlikely that Pavlov was personally guilty, but they decided to appoint him guilty for the defeat in the first month of the war. Do not blame Stalin for this.
      1. -1
        9 October 2022 18: 42
        Quote from Andy_nsk
        How on the western front of the Second World War they change Pavlov for Zhukov.

        Pavlov was replaced by Tymoshenko. It looks like Pavlov was made a scapegoat. The main blow of the Germans was on the Western Military District, so it was defeated the fastest, and it is unlikely that Pavlov was personally guilty, but they decided to appoint him guilty for the defeat in the first month of the war. Do not blame Stalin for this.

        Pavlov's guilt is voiced in the verdict. Loss of control, no action taken, etc. There was no such disaster on any other front.
        1. +3
          9 October 2022 18: 52
          no other front had so many German forces, including motorized ones, but our tank corps were concentrated mainly in Ukraine, where they were defeated in the largest tank battle of WW2 in the Dubno-Brody region. It was a very epic battle (to put it mildly). But only Pavlov and his deputies were shot.
          1. -1
            9 October 2022 19: 26
            Quote from Andy_nsk
            no other front had so many German forces, including motorized ones, but our tank corps were concentrated mainly in Ukraine, where they were defeated in the largest tank battle of WW2 in the Dubno-Brody region. It was a very epic battle (to put it mildly). But only Pavlov and his deputies were shot.

            Pavlov had enough strength and means to prevent such a catastrophe.
            Yes, near Lutsk and Brody, the largest tank battle, which many simply do not know about. Prokhorovka overshadowed everything.
        2. -7
          9 October 2022 19: 03
          was on the southern front, despite superiority over the Germans in everything, was defeated, and Pavlova hated bugs and settled scores with him
          1. +2
            9 October 2022 19: 33
            Quote from igoist
            was on the southern front, despite superiority over the Germans in everything, was defeated, and Pavlova hated bugs and settled scores with him

            Zhukov ordered to shoot Pavlov? Cool. This is not the level of Zhukov, at that time he himself would have been able to hold on. In the 41st, there was no catastrophe on the Southern Front, it fell after the Western and South-Western. Odessa, Sevastopol is the 42nd year. And in the early days, the Southern Front landed troops on the Romanian coast.
            1. -5
              10 October 2022 00: 39
              It was at the suggestion of Zhukov that Pavlov was shot, he wrote denunciations against him on an ongoing basis
              1. +1
                10 October 2022 10: 04
                Quote from igoist
                It was at the suggestion of Zhukov that Pavlov was shot, he wrote denunciations against him on an ongoing basis

                I have not read these denunciations, so I will not object. However, I would like to know the source of the information where you got it from. I am not a fan of Zhukov and he is an ambiguous figure, but I have not read about denunciations against Pavlov. Although it could very well be.
                I just doubt that Beria was guided in the Pavlov case, only by Zhukov's denunciations.
                There were enough materials without Zhukov.
                1. -3
                  10 October 2022 14: 29
                  http://www.secret-r.net/arkhiv-publikatsij/36-2016/vinovat-li-general-pavlov
      2. +1
        9 October 2022 19: 14
        Quote from Andy_nsk
        How on the western front of the Second World War they change Pavlov for Zhukov.

        Pavlov was replaced by Tymoshenko. It looks like Pavlov was made a scapegoat. The main blow of the Germans was on the Western Military District, so it was defeated the fastest, and it is unlikely that Pavlov was personally guilty, but they decided to appoint him guilty for the defeat in the first month of the war. Do not blame Stalin for this.

        Pavlov's main problem is that, in fact, an intelligent division commander turned out to be at the head of a key direction, having neither the knowledge nor experience for this.
        According to Surovikin. Why are those who so applauded the criticism of the generals by Kadyrov not rejoicing? It was originally a campaign in favor of Surovikin. And this is not just the appointment of a single commander. Shoigu and Gerasimov, although not formally dismissed (perhaps not yet), have been removed from the leadership of the NWO. Surovikin will report directly to the Supreme. And Gerasimov is now a wedding general. The directions, as I understand it, are commanded by Teplinskiy and Muradov. Wanted a change? Get it. These are really our best generals. But we must remember that the Hindenburgs have not appeared in the reserve since 1942. Those who are are fighting.
        1. 0
          9 October 2022 19: 41
          Quote: Chronos
          Quote from Andy_nsk
          How on the western front of the Second World War they change Pavlov for Zhukov.

          Pavlov was replaced by Tymoshenko. It looks like Pavlov was made a scapegoat. The main blow of the Germans was on the Western Military District, so it was defeated the fastest, and it is unlikely that Pavlov was personally guilty, but they decided to appoint him guilty for the defeat in the first month of the war. Do not blame Stalin for this.

          Pavlov's main problem is that, in fact, an intelligent division commander turned out to be at the head of a key direction, having neither the knowledge nor experience for this.
          According to Surovikin. Why are those who so applauded the criticism of the generals by Kadyrov not rejoicing? It was originally a campaign in favor of Surovikin. And this is not just the appointment of a single commander. Shoigu and Gerasimov, although not formally dismissed (perhaps not yet), have been removed from the leadership of the NWO. Surovikin will report directly to the Supreme. And Gerasimov is now a wedding general. The directions, as I understand it, are commanded by Teplinskiy and Muradov. Wanted a change? Get it. These are really our best generals. But we must remember that the Hindenburgs have not appeared in the reserve since 1942. Those who are are fighting.

          That's it, but I was instructed for the same minuses.
        2. +1
          10 October 2022 09: 29
          Why are those who so applauded the criticism of the generals by Kadyrov not rejoicing? It was originally a campaign in favor of Surovikin.

          Surovikin commanded the 42nd division in Chechnya, from there he is familiar with Kadyrov. But why do you think that this is just specifically for Surovikin's campaign?
          1. 0
            10 October 2022 11: 26
            Quote: glory1974
            Why are those who so applauded the criticism of the generals by Kadyrov not rejoicing? It was originally a campaign in favor of Surovikin.

            Surovikin commanded the 42nd division in Chechnya, from there he is familiar with Kadyrov. But why do you think that this is just specifically for Surovikin's campaign?

            Because the movement began after the criticism of Kadyrov and Prigozhin. And now they are singing the praises of Surovikin in unison.
      3. -2
        10 October 2022 06: 43
        Sttalin can be blamed for only one thing. He relied on the generals. When he realized that they were of no use, he took command by creating the headquarters of the Supreme State Defense Committee. And Pavlov was a traitor. Under a glass of Meretskov. He reasoned that with the victory of Hitler they would not be worse. The uniform of the collaborator was trying on
  16. +1
    9 October 2022 17: 44
    Let's wait and see what General Surovikin is like. So far, I see no reason to be happy.
  17. +4
    9 October 2022 17: 51
    If politics does not allow bombing hohland, what difference does it make who will be the commander?
    1. -1
      9 October 2022 20: 47
      If politics does not allow bombing hohland, what difference does it make who will be the commander?

      If the commander doesn’t look obsequiously “What do you want, sir?”, But at least demands “I need this and that. I’m sure of it. place." But for this a lot of things are needed. And not so much from Surovikin, but from the top ones.
  18. +1
    9 October 2022 17: 54
    It's too early to draw conclusions. It's good at least that a single commander of the grouping of our forces at the front has been appointed. Before this, this was not the case.
    Let him take everything into his own hands and establish a unified command, interaction, and so on.
  19. 0
    9 October 2022 17: 55
    The VKS, however, will sigh with the hope that a person close to aviation will come.
    1. +1
      9 October 2022 22: 55
      Surovikin did not seem to be relieved of his post as Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces.
  20. -1
    9 October 2022 17: 55
    YES, this is probably what a Russian general should look like. He is a soldier. Remember the film "Officers" Mr. General is not tall and thin, he has no hair, but he is still our officer! am
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    1. -1
      9 October 2022 18: 01
      I didn't write that, where did it come from?
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    1. 0
      9 October 2022 18: 24
      The sin is great, and the merit is considerable. Don't care about the conviction. The main thing is to be a commander, sensible.
    2. -1
      9 October 2022 18: 30
      Quote: Alexey_patriot
      And the shooters write that this citizen was judged

      Forget Girkin. He fled the Donbass at the most difficult time, constantly yelling that Putin leaked, that the Novorossiya project was closed, that the Donbass had no chance, and so on. And now he is PR and trying to cling.
      If he is such a patriot, then let Khodakovsky gather a battalion of volunteers and help at the front, and not with his tongue. But it seems that the battalion for Girkin is below his ambitions ... give him an army, a front, then he will descend from his Olympus. .
      1. +1
        9 October 2022 19: 34
        Who wants to challenge the facts I have cited? Well, go ahead, and do not hide behind the minuses.
        Quote: Ulan.1812
        Quote: Alexey_patriot
        And the shooters write that this citizen was judged

        Forget Girkin. He fled the Donbass at the most difficult time, constantly yelling that Putin leaked, that the Novorossiya project was closed, that the Donbass had no chance, and so on. And now he is PR and trying to cling.
        If he is such a patriot, then let Khodakovsky gather a battalion of volunteers and help at the front, and not with his tongue. But it seems that the battalion for Girkin is below his ambitions ... give him an army, a front, then he will descend from his Olympus. .
        1. -3
          9 October 2022 21: 28
          Presented facts? Do not flatter yourself, you did not bring any facts about Strelkov, so a reasonable person will not waste energy on challenging these rotten theses.
          1. +1
            9 October 2022 22: 12
            Quote: Marine engineer
            Presented facts? Do not flatter yourself, you did not bring any facts about Strelkov, so a reasonable person will not waste energy on challenging these rotten theses.

            That's what they always say when there's nothing to object to. Well ... as they say, the drain is counted. Good luck.
      2. 0
        10 October 2022 09: 26
        let Khodakovsky assemble a battalion of volunteers and help at the front, and not with his tongue. But it looks like a battalion for Girkin is below his ambitions.

        Girkin participated in the formation of the Nevsky Volunteer Battalion.
        1. +1
          10 October 2022 09: 53
          Quote: glory1974
          let Khodakovsky assemble a battalion of volunteers and help at the front, and not with his tongue. But it looks like a battalion for Girkin is below his ambitions.

          Girkin participated in the formation of the Nevsky Volunteer Battalion.

          I was talking about something else. Many participate to the best of their ability, while Khodakovsky, God, and so on are fighting.
          1. 0
            10 October 2022 10: 44
            Girkin was detained in the Crimea and not allowed to go to the front. There was news like this a couple of months ago.
            Not everything is so simple with Girkin
            1. 0
              10 October 2022 14: 02
              For some reason others are not detained. Any excuse can be found. But I will not argue, because apart from rumors there is no other information.
              I'll just say that if the authorities really wanted to shut up Strelkov, then there are plenty of ways. Strelkov is not dangerous for the Kremlin. There are also enough ways to get to the Donbass, not necessarily through the Crimea. I am not at all trying to deny Strelkoa's merits in organizing the defense of Slavyansk, but I think that later he behaved not very worthy.
              The fact that Donbass was defended by Zakharchenko, Givi, Motorola, Kachura and others. Many died. I consider them heroes, not Strelkov.
    3. +4
      9 October 2022 18: 59
      Quote: Alexey_patriot
      And the shooters write that this citizen was judged

      The case was dismissed by the court on exonerating grounds.
  23. -1
    9 October 2022 17: 58
    Well, at least the Combat General was appointed. And then the wedding generals from Rublyovka taxied the NWO. It's time to put an end to the Kyiv terrorist Junta. It's time to fight correctly and competently.
  24. -3
    9 October 2022 18: 07
    With its formidable appearance alone, it will catch fear on enemies))
  25. +3
    9 October 2022 18: 12
    "He was born to serve the Motherland" - Prigozhin spoke about the new commander of the NVO Surovikin
    . We will be judged by his deeds!
  26. +1
    9 October 2022 18: 16
    Not much depends on one person, in this mess everything must be categorically changed both at the front and in the country.
  27. -3
    9 October 2022 18: 22
    I am glad that the Sibiryak and not the parquet general from Moscow.
    1. +3
      9 October 2022 18: 56
      Think what you write. I've seen enough of such accusers in the army.
      Let's first see the cases, and then we will judge.
      And Moscow has no parquet.
      1. -1
        9 October 2022 20: 00
        Yes, there are. But in one you are right. Will watch.
  28. -4
    9 October 2022 18: 32
    Here is Prigogine, look what he says:

  29. 0
    9 October 2022 18: 53
    Good to praise. As they say in deeds, yes it is necessary to judge. The previous ones were already in command until the redeployment and flight of the army from the enemy with the transfer of brand new military equipment to him. Although they were also at one time "experienced, combative, strong-willed" according to the recommendations.
  30. -4
    9 October 2022 19: 01
    when he stole weapons and sold Tajik militants, did he also serve his homeland?
  31. 0
    9 October 2022 19: 03
    Time will tell.
    Do not praise a person so as not to frighten off luck.
  32. 0
    9 October 2022 19: 03
    Prigozhin spoke about the new commander...

    VO is promoting Prigogine? Where are we heading? Battalion commander Khodakovsky correctly said that "the army is beginning to turn into a private shop."
  33. 0
    9 October 2022 19: 06
    Wow, what passions boil in the comments !!! good laughing
    As for me, if today, maximum tomorrow, on the very last day after tomorrow, the RF Armed Forces do not begin to massively destroy all railway and automobile bridges at least at a distance of 500 km from the front line, it means that this general was simply appointed a "scapegoat" to be devoured wassat They appointed him, but they forgot to give the authority to conduct military operations in military science ... bully hi
  34. +3
    9 October 2022 19: 13
    I have already tired of repeating, you appoint Suvorov commander at least three times, but if the political leadership and the General Staff of the Defense Ministry tie his hands, he will not be able to do anything. Well, it's clear as twice two. And we don’t know what the darkest one has in mind, especially since on the day of the strike on the bridge, apart from praises to the agro-complex, he did not say a word. Well, what can be expected even from the most talented military leader in such conditions? fellow
    1. t-4
      +3
      9 October 2022 20: 42
      Do you want to know what is the purpose of the NWO?
      Perhaps even, as you put it, the Dark One does not know now.
      How will it go.
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    -5
    9 October 2022 19: 15
    I will not discuss a bad person, a good one.
    Everything will depend on what orders he will be given and what powers he will be given. It all depends on the red lines.
  36. -5
    9 October 2022 19: 17
    What is this chief span? Rearranging the beds will not solve the problem.
  37. 0
    9 October 2022 19: 23
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Yes, and whatever happened with Lapin. At first they sang odes, and after a couple of months they kicked

    And for that too, bro...let it work soldier
  38. -2
    9 October 2022 19: 34
    All this, of course, is wonderful, but only the coming months will show what this general is capable of. And it is very important to know what powers he has, to whom he is directly subordinate and who is subordinate to him. And then the position is, conditionally, firing squad; will not justify and will be made a scapegoat, a lightning rod for popular indignation.
  39. +2
    9 October 2022 20: 18
    Countryman, good luck to you! Take care, our boys are there!!!
  40. -1
    9 October 2022 21: 30
    A professional is, first of all, a person who knows his business thoroughly and who will never take on something where he has neither knowledge nor experience.
  41. 0
    10 October 2022 08: 49
    Quote: spirit
    Was in the infantry, and suddenly became the head of the VKS

    And I know (in absentia, of course) one gynecologist who was a MO in a very respectable country. Yes, I forgot the big boss ... the boss .... who knows - who (th) in pantyhose jumps over the "puddle"
  42. -1
    10 October 2022 09: 17
    It is obvious that Putin would not even be close to power if he were not well and reliably controlled by authorities. In our case, the "Yeltsin family" and the Slavic oligarchs. Obviously, the "family" has a very strong anchor for Putin's independence. Most likely this is some kind of killer compromising evidence. For example, the recruitment by the German special services of the still young Vladimir Putin during his years of work in the GDR. High levels of public confidence reduce the effectiveness of compromising evidence, but it exists and is waiting in the wings. Putin has to balance all the time of his reign. Both ours and yours. This is exactly what his policy inside the country looks like.

    If Prigozhin opposes the oligarchy so clearly and unequivocally, then I stand under its banner.
  43. 0
    10 October 2022 20: 27
    The most important moment in the strategy of the new commander-in-chief should be a change in the command and control system of troops. With the existing one, hours and days pass from the detection of the enemy to the command to shoot.

    Decision time needs to be reduced. The troops should be given more freedom. The decision on shelling should be made not in Moscow, but by the spotter sergeant and artillery captain. Since the main destructive power is artillery, it is the artillerymen who should be placed at the head of the combined units. Tankers and motorized riflemen are only reconnaissance and protection for spotters. Well, finishing off an enemy hit by artillery.

    A long front should be divided into 3-5 separate fronts with their own commanders. In order to maintain overall control over autonomous formations, "members of the military council" must be appointed to the level of the front and division, and the lower structures should be controlled by special officers.

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