The truck that allegedly exploded on the Crimean bridge passed through the traffic police checkpoint without hindrance

The Crimean bridge, being an object of strategic importance, is by default equipped with permanent video surveillance systems. One of the cameras, as the Military Review already wrote, filmed the moment the truck exploded. And although it is quite difficult to examine the car in detail due to poor quality, some "experts" seem to have been able to identify the car. A video is circulating on the network in which the truck, which allegedly became the very bomb, passes one of the traffic police posts at the entrance to the bridge.

The car is moving presumably from Krasnodar. The footage shows that at the post, the traffic inspector urges the driver to open the doors of the van and looks inside. Apparently, not finding anything suspicious, they let the car through. Moreover, there are armed servicemen at the post, given for reinforcement.

Of course, it is possible and necessary to make claims against the traffic inspector in the event that explosives were really carried in the truck. But the traffic on the highway towards the Crimea is large, it seems that there is no physical possibility to thoroughly check each truck with correctly executed accompanying documents. Especially if no such command was received from above. Moreover, the version that the truck could not have been connected with the explosion at all, but simply ended up in the place where this explosion thundered for a different reason, cannot yet be ruled out.

It is important to note that in two districts of the Krasnodar Territory, in the north and east of the Republic of Crimea, an increased ("yellow") level of terrorist threat has been operating for several months. According to the classification of the National Anti-Terrorism Center, this is a high level of threat, which is introduced "if there is confirmed information about the real possibility of committing a terrorist act." The phrase "confirmed information about a real possibility" should be emphasized in particular.

Judging by the frames of the video, nothing much has changed in the work of the traffic police after the transition to the new regime. Unless, armed submachine gunners are now on duty (or rather, they are serving) at the post - as already noted.

Of course, based on the results of the emergency, an investigation will be carried out, already being carried out, by a specially created government commission. Investigators of the UK, who urgently opened a criminal case, will identify the perpetrators. And those who committed criminal negligence.

I would like to hope that appropriate organizational conclusions will be made.

The question is: can this firefighting after what happened prevent subsequent similar incidents? And their probability, unfortunately, is not equal to zero. And what kind of regime should be introduced in the real front-line regions in order for the employees of the relevant law enforcement agencies to start working in a truly enhanced regime? The main thing is to do without looking for a switchman, as it usually happens in such cases.

Comments

[ruha]

And why is there only one version with a truck? And why didn't they blow it up under the arch. Surely if the span with the arch was damaged, the damage would be greater, or were they aiming at the tanks at the same time ?!

[VVVIAS]

Because we will continue to chew snot.

[T-73]

As I understand it, the answer is wider than the problem. Snot chew, not understanding? War already. Well, yes. Only in war there are others. And more often enemies. Let them chew snot further. Weight grunts us... THE ENTIRE west, and we... We wiped ourselves with the streams.
If we wake up after the bridge, the price is worthless to us

[4ekist]

T-73: Do they chew snot without understanding? War already.

That's just the point, that not understanding. Lost precious time, sexual intercourse and impotence in all structures. They have not a war, but some kind of operation.

[guest]

Quote: 4ekist

some kind of operation.

Not some kind, but a business operation.

[Sarboz]

Quote: ruha

And why is there only one version with a truck? And why didn't they blow it up under the arch.

Now guessing on coffee grounds is useless. Explosive expertise will put everything in its place.

[Taimen]

Whoever conducts it will not be to blame. Just like the plane. Ukraine knocked down, and the West carried out the examination. We are to blame. All my life this way.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Taimen

Who will carry out, he will not be to blame.

Here the situation is not at all similar to the Malaysian Boeing. The task before the experts is not who is to blame. It is necessary to find out how the attack was carried out. Were there any other charges besides the truck. Explosive expertise will sort it all out.
Interpretation is a matter of investigation.

[Taimen]

What country do you live in? They took a colonel from 12 billion, it seems he stole it. They interpreted it, it happens. a rabbit for 5 years, for talking about thieves - 10 years, for criticizing the authorities you will get the whole 20k * they give less to pedophiles, they are theirs).

[Sarboz]

Quote: Taimen

What country do you live in?
... for criticizing the authorities you will get the whole 20 * pedophiles are given less, they are their own

Do not make me laugh. You and many regulars here (I’m just silent about one-day bots from TsIPSO) constantly pour out so much shit on the current government, on the command of the RF Armed Forces, that in 1941 you would simply have been shot. Art. 207.3 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is crying for you.
And nothing, frolic in freedom. The funnel has not yet come for you.
So what country do you live in?

[guest]

Quote: T-73

If we wake up after the bridge

And who doubts it?

[Misha Honest]

Quote: T-73

If we wake up after the bridge, the price is worthless to us

And we are worthless when the government lies right and left. Is it possible to name 200 thousand people. army? Can 200k. fight effectively against 1000k? - No. What we see is complete nonsense. Who made this nonsense? GDP. You want to minus - but only idiots wage wars like that.

[Misha Honest]

Quote from VVVIAS

Because we will continue to chew snot.

GDP and Shoigu will continue to eat them

[ABC-schutze]

You're right...

Only we will chew snot not "we", but the one who does this from the very beginning of the NWO - the main Kremlin inhabitant, who gave instructions on the beginning of the NWO with the main tasks - denazification and demilitarization of the Kyiv Nazi regime.

But STILL HAVEN'T GIVEN THE Russian Armed Forces and the command of the NMD the authority to deliver MASSIVE, CONTINUOUS, TARGETED strikes against the "decision-making centers" (political, military, state, diplomatic, propaganda, etc.) of the Kyiv Natsiks.

It was HE who, after SEVEN MONTHS of the NWO, with his INITIALLY superficial attitude to understanding the REAL SCALE of the main tasks of the NWO and his condescending attitude towards the shameful "planners" of its military move and political support, practically "out of the blue" arranged for Russia and its Armed Forces, then, which can rightly be called the "First Narva".

I emphasize that I arranged the "First Narva" with his mediocre "entry into negotiations" with the Kyiv Nazis (which gave the Kyiv Nazis and their curators a WEEK OF PRECIOUS TIME), having in their hands EVERYTHING that is objectively necessary for an effective, rapid build-up of military successes of the initial stage of the NWO and a quick MILITARY the defeat of the Kyiv Nazi regime, the most complete solution of the tasks of the NWO dachas of the NWO potential given by the Russian economy and the military-industrial complex potential - military, political, information and propaganda, etc. ...

And alas, now for the triumphant "Second Narva", especially the brilliant "Poltava", Russia and its Armed Forces will have to spend much more time and suffer significantly greater human and economic losses ...

In the meantime, in the "absolute gain" only the "thimble-intermediary" Erdogan, who divorces everyone in favor of Ankara and Moscow in the first place. Yes, it must be assumed that the Ukrainian oligarch "Medvedchuk" HAD NO RELATIONSHIP with Russia, MONTHS OF PRECIOUS TIME ALSO were spent on the "rescue" of which of the basements of the SBU ...

[free]

Only two bridges: Antonovsky and Crimean, and already a problem. Can't we do this, or is Ukraine's infrastructure already divided among the oligarchs and inviolable?

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Free

Ukraine's infrastructure has already been divided among the oligarchs and is inviolable?

She already daaavno theirs! And touch her no way!

[Abbot]

the version with the blowing up of the truck is unconvincing for me, the PKR could have been the same way, there were reports for "harpoons", they say, Kyiv requested

[Sarboz]

Quote: Abbot

the version with the blowing up of the truck is unconvincing for me, the PKR could have been the same way, there were reports for "harpoons", they say, Kyiv requested

Such a powerful explosion and warhead "Harpoon" - this is not comparable.

[Abbot]

What strength? It has not been reported anywhere (at the time of writing), so there is nothing to compare with. In the "harpoon" warhead 220 kg, for example. Few? Actually, I'm not saying anything, but judging by the published videos, it does not look like the truck exploded.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Abbot

In the "harpoon" warhead 220 kg, for example. Few? Actually, I'm not saying anything, but judging by the published videos, it does not look like the truck exploded.

Do you doubt that a truck has an order of magnitude more payload than any anti-ship missile? The mass of explosives that a truck can carry is calculated in tons, and not hundreds of kilograms for a missile warhead.

[Abbot]

It is no longer relevant, but ... And here is the carrying capacity, if it was about the force of the explosion. How many cc were in the truck? What is the power of the explosion? Let's say a truck is 20 tons, does it mean that they laid down 20 tons of explosives? There is still nothing concrete in the media. Well, after the drone attack in Sevastopol, the story of the terrorist attack on the Kerch bridge sparkled with new colors.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Abbot

And here is the carrying capacity, if it was about the force of the explosion.

Quote: Abbot

In the "harpoon" warhead 220 kg, for example. Few? Actually, I'm not saying anything, but judging by the published videos, it does not look like the truck exploded.

"Judging by the published videos", of course there was no smell of any "Harpoons". The force of the explosion is monstrous. I gave you the carrying capacity of the truck as an example as the possibility of delivering to the place of detonation a mass of explosives many times greater than the capabilities of any rocket. The total weight of the cargo in the truck was 22 tons of explosives wrapped in film. Let them not regret the film in order to more reliably hide the filling. Nevertheless, it is clear that the mass of explosives was tons.

[Abbot]

You tell me, and they told you too, about tons of explosives that no one has seen or weighed. And from this it follows that these tons can only be brought to the bridge by truck. But this is a false conclusion, because I repeat, no one weighed them, and the SBU did not provide an invoice for loading explosives into a truck. But we can approximately say about the number of centuries, having studied the place of the explosion and damage after an appropriate examination. Your assessments "this is not comparable" and "the force of the explosion is monstrous" by no means allows you to establish - they blew up 200 kg or 2 tons. I did not find any reports and reports on the results of the commission's work on the net. Maybe I searched badly. The charge under the bridge could be delivered by water by a drone, which our ships were attacked with. It turned out that this option is also possible. And to carry a loaded and ready-to-use VU across the borders, emnip, of five countries for thousands of kilometers for several days, it’s hard to believe, sorry.

[kpd]

There was at least a ton, five kilometers away the glass was broken.

[Old sergeant]

And I don't think a truck explosion would cause that much damage. 2 (!) spans of the bridge flew off. As you can see, the damage to the canvas from above is critical. That means disruption.

[EXPrompt]

For me, this is with a probability of 95% a rocket.
You have a picture on the left of the railway track and the train and the Black Sea, in the center in the distance is a car, on the right in the distance of Kerch, an explosion occurs .. Camera light .. And then, the key moment, for a long 3-5 seconds, they fly from the right side from at the top burning in the form of a meteor shower, the air is the remnants of something.
So this meteor shower is burning rocket fuel. And he shows the trajectory very well.
And the tank with fuel, which fell under fragments and detonation, slammed so well, it might not turn such a bridge around.
What exactly did they hit, with harpoons, nasams, it is futile to argue, an expert is needed here. And our false government will not tell the people this, if the GDP is lucky in 5 years, it will say "she drowned" and indicate the reason ..

[Sarboz]

Quote: EXPrompt

For me, this is with a probability of 95% a rocket.

There are at least a couple of arguments against this version. The complete absence of traces of striking elements from the missile warhead on the road surface and bridge structures. Not bent bridge luminaire supports.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

there is one against the truck version, but a killer argument, at the initial moment of the explosion, the truck remains intact

[Sarboz]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

there is one against the truck version, but a killer argument, at the initial moment of the explosion, the truck remains intact

When viewing video from the surveillance camera frame-by-frame, the picture is quite clear: in the last frame before the explosion, a truck is visible, a passenger car to the left of it and another truck behind it with a car overtaking it. The next frame is completely lit up by the flash of the explosion. Further, a second later, when the flash fades, you can already see only a truck and a car driving behind. All this can easily be broken down into frames.
If you want to prove your version, put it in frames. Just use the original video, and not the laptop monitor taken on the phone, and even located at an angle, like on a muddy freeze frame that you posted here somewhere.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Sarboz

If you want to prove your version, put it in frames. Just use the original video, and not the laptop monitor taken on the phone, and even located at an angle, like on a muddy freeze frame that you posted here somewhere.

I posted at least something, put at least something you, by the way, can you tell me what is the difference between the original and the "screen", by the way, will you give a link like the "original"?

[Sarboz]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

I posted at least something, put at least something you

Vladimir, you are taking everything at your own expense in vain. I don't cling. I just watched the video frame by frame a few times. The truck disappears immediately after the flash.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

By the way, can you tell me what is the difference between the original and the "screen"

Well, yes, I got excited with the "original", I admit it. I also watched the "screen", just a more direct angle than you gave.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

watch ANOTHER VIDEO I posted it, by the way I got the impression that the second option is somewhat processed

[EXPrompt]

@Sarboz (Oleg ZOV)
I disagree with you .. where are the intact poles? on the collapsed canvas of the bridge they are not, on the non-collapsed one they are, but there are tanks behind them, and they were also struck ..
See what happens...
option 1, the warhead was initially programmed for remote detonation over the target.
Option 2, a missile flying along a ballistic trajectory, almost vertically from the top from Kerch, is shot down over the target, fragments fly further along the trajectory in the form of fragments, hit both the truck and tanks ... The meteor shower after the explosion is either fragments of rocket fuel or air defense missiles self-detonation after an unsuccessful downing, or fragments of an air defense missile after a successful one ... As I understand it ..

The main thing is how you justify 10 seconds of meteor shower after the explosion than .. What physical process?
One eccentric, here on the forum, he substantiated that this is water that burns and falls like that .. You know, his water is on fire ..
To accurately prove that this is not a rocket, only a video from mountain surveillance cameras can. Kerch at the time of the attack.

[Sarboz]

Quote: EXPrompt

I disagree with you .. where are the intact poles? on the collapsed canvas of the bridge they are not

What if you look closely? On the span broken in half, the bridge fence from the sea side (on the right) is not damaged and closer to the bridge abutment, there is a whole lamppost at the top. But on the left, the fence is destroyed. Moreover, the profiles of the fence are bent one to the left, the other to the right (toward the sea). It is difficult to explain if the explosion would have occurred on the right over the sea behind the bridge.

[EXPrompt]

I don't understand what you want to prove...
Start with the main thing .. This is which of the 2 spans of the bridge that flew off. .
This is clearly not the first where there is a hole. What does your piece of the bridge prove, and subsequent reflections - but actually nothing.
Epicenter where is the hole from the theoretical truck?
Are you interested in how the metal structure was bent inside, or what ..

[Sarboz]

Quote: EXPrompt

Start with the main thing .. This is which of the 2 spans of the bridge that flew off. .
This is clearly not the first where there is a hole.

If you pay attention, you will see that three flights have flown down.
This is exactly the span on which the explosion occurred. A flight that broke in half. In front of him, the span simply came off the support, and behind him, through one span (that is, at a distance from the first two spans), another span flew off the support.

[EXPrompt]

@Sarboz (Oleg ZOV)
According to your frame, it is impossible to attribute this place as an epicenter.
Again I ask the question - what are you trying to prove by citing a photo?
The fact that the bridge collapsed, or how the shockwaves of the explosions went..
what exactly?

[Sarboz]

Quote: EXPrompt

Again I ask the question - what are you trying to prove by citing a photo?

You yourself wrote:

Quote: EXPrompt

I disagree with you .. where are the intact poles? on the collapsed canvas of the bridge they are not

I brought you a photo of where the pillars are on the collapsed span.
And to bring to you, I initially want one thing:

Quote: Sarboz

Now guessing on coffee grounds is useless. Explosive expertise will put everything in its place.

[svp67]

Quote: EXPrompt

The main thing is how you justify 10 seconds of meteor shower after the explosion than .. What physical process?

This is the burning of aluminum powder, which is added to increase the combustion temperature and explosive power in explosives.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Old Sergeant

And I don't think a truck explosion would cause that much damage. 2 (!) spans of the bridge flew off. As you can see, the damage to the canvas from above is critical. That means disruption.

No, I do not argue that the bridge piers could also be mined. But a truck trailer could easily accommodate a dozen or two tons of RDX. Such a volume could smash both canvases into powder. So everything will be shown by explosive expertise.

[EXPrompt]

@ Sarboz (Oleg ZOV)
Bridges - today, this is a complex engineering structure, there in the scheme there can be both hinges and entire spans sliding on guides.
This is not a 2nd century BC Roman bridge.
The fact that 2 spans flew away almost undamaged, well, the hinge collapsed and the entire bridge will fly away under shock load.

[Sarboz]

Quote: EXPrompt

Bridges - today, this is a complex engineering structure, there in the scheme there can be both hinges and entire spans sliding on guides.

What does this have to do with it? The bridge is indeed a complex structure, but this does not mean that an explosion of less power is needed to destroy it than for a Roman bridge of the XNUMXnd century BC.

Quote: EXPrompt

The fact that 2 spans flew away almost undamaged, well, the hinge collapsed and the entire bridge will fly away under shock load.

At the epicenter of the explosion, the "almost undamaged span" was broken in half. This is the next flight just pulled off the support and he went into the water intact. And, by the way, another third span behind the exploded truck was pulled off the support in the same way. One flight from the epicenter of the explosion.
Such a span cannot be broken by the force of a cruise missile explosion.

Quote: EXPrompt

The main thing is how you justify 10 seconds of meteor shower after the explosion than .. What physical process?
One eccentric, here on the forum, he substantiated that this is water that burns and falls like that .. You know, his water is on fire ..

I also thought that it was water splashes, illuminated by an explosion and a fire that had arisen. Undermining on a support under water could cause such an effect.

[Ulan.1812]

Quote: Free

Only two bridges: Antonovsky and Crimean, and already a problem. Can't we do this, or is Ukraine's infrastructure already divided among the oligarchs and inviolable?

The same thoughts came to mind many times.
How else to explain that we do not touch.

[EFIM LYUBIN]

The oligarchs with the corrupt ruling elite of Russia on the payroll of the State Department and NATO with the EEC, This is the only explanation for the Kremlin's toothless "nu-nu-nu" to Western, as they like to say "partners", continuing to sell strategic raw materials and energy resources to the enemies of their country, including ukroreyhu!

""

[Victor19]

And for what shi shi to support state employees and the army, I want to ask? Now gas does not go to Europe. Where does the money come from, Zin?

[invisible_man]

Too powerful explosion. It doesn't look like a rocket, but putting so many explosives under the bridge... in front of everyone... Well, it's unrealistic.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

video of the explosion was seen, THIS IS NOT A TRUCK, the explosion was higher and to the right in the direction of the car

[invisible_man]

THIS IS NOT A TRUCK

And what could it be? Dragon? There are no signs of a missile attack, and the explosion is too powerful even for a 400-500 kg warhead, while the Neptune has 150 kg at all.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote from invisible_man

And what could it be? Dragon?

judging by the fact that the explosion is completely above the bridge, you should lay out the same storyboard or, in addition to sarcasm, you know how to work with your hands and see for yourself

[invisible_man]

Nothing exploded above the bridge, it's an optical illusion. Any missiles launched towards the bridge were intercepted by air defense, so the enemy used a truck. Yes, and an air explosion could not cause such destruction due to the low weight of the warhead.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote from invisible_man

And what could it be? Dragon?

this is the beginning of the explosion, as you can see the truck is intact, and the flash is on the top right
[Center]/ center]

[invisible_man]

I don't see any flash on this screen. The headlights of the camera lit up, most likely. Do you want to say what exploded 50 meters above the bridge?

[ABC-schutze]

Yes everything is correct...

There is no need to be too "wise"... Suffice it to recall how three or four years ago a tanker with saltpeter "blew" in Lebanon. “Almost a third of the city was blown apart, as after a decent earthquake. So a truck loaded with “what is needed” on the bridge will demolish the span quite calmly. And what is “nearby” will also not leave intact ...

[stankow]

In Lebanon, not a tanker, but a warehouse exploded.

[ABC-schutze]

It's not essential...

A dry cargo ship with mineral fertilizers, which "rushed" at the berth or a port storage of such fertilizers, is almost identical in the consequences of the explosion.

That's not the point ...

As I believe, a truck loaded with min. fertilizers (saltpeter), into which (one of the packages) a "kind person" (most likely during loading ...) put a detonator. And the driver might not have had any idea about it ...

And this "loader", most likely, has already quite calmly crossed some "border crossing point". And he left the territory of Russia ... As after the terrorist attack of the Kyiv Nazis against Daria Dugina ...

Here everything is "in the suit". From Russia for the export of mineral fertilizers, the so-called. "sanctions" have been lifted. In Crimea, they are also needed. So, blowing up a truck with a load of saltpeter on the Crimean bridge was only a matter of time. To plan and implement such a "plot" that requires minimal "technical" support (mainly organizational is required ...) is "at the expense of time" for any ordinary analyst of the special services. This plot, taking into account the urgent need for this kind of cargo and the corresponding intensity of cargo traffic, itself "goes into hands" ...

But I would love to be wrong...

[stankow]

You all speak truthfully. It is also possible that the trailer was standing somewhere, they started it slowly, they hired a driver. Came, hitched, suspecting nothing. An innocent man died, God forgive him!

[EXPrompt]

@invisible_man (Konstantin)
For me, this is with a probability of 95% a rocket.
You have a picture on the left of the railway track and the train and the Black Sea, in the center in the distance is a car, on the right in the distance of Kerch, an explosion occurs .. Camera light .. And then, the key moment, for a long 3-5 seconds, they fly from the right side from at the top burning in the form of a meteor shower, the air is the remnants of something.
So this meteor shower is burning rocket fuel. And he shows the trajectory very well.

[invisible_man]

This is WATER raised by an explosion. Why is there so much fuel in a rocket? And after the explosion, it would not have flown along one trajectory.

[EXPrompt]

YES OF COURSE, it's like water falls from the sky and burns)))
Curious about how, let's say, cruise missiles explode on a remote detonation over a target.

[invisible_man]

Yes, nothing is burning there, just several tons of water are falling - not a single rocket has such a volume of fuel. Enough with the conspiracy theories already)) Again, the "authorities are hiding" (c) :) What the hell is a missile warhead exploding at a high altitude above the bridge, the explosion will lose 70% of its destructive power. What, it was zapadlo to fly an extra 50 meters, or there was not enough fuel? :)

[EXPrompt]

@invisible_man (Konstantin)
Stop raving, and already decide .. YOU are for the truck, as I understand it ...
Where did the water come from, that it exploded in the water so that then it would fall like this for 10 seconds "setting fire to the water."
Your truck exploded in the water, or did something explode above the water at a height ..... or, as you think physics, the occurrence of a burning meteor rain ..
Physical laws explain everything.
By the way, it is not without meaning that the meteor shower explains this effect of a Russian air defense missile blown up in self-destruction, after an unsuccessful interception of some kind of target. It could be like this..

[invisible_man]

Aliens are involved, 100%. And Masons. And a hundred thousand physicists will confirm this. Only now it is not clear where there is so much unused fuel in the proposed rocket that it "falls out" for as long as 10 seconds. And what kind of rocket is this if there is enough fuel in its tank, which is enough for 20 rockets. Are you an engineer? So name the suitable models, so as not to be unfounded.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

only here is one bad luck, the direction of the "water" is not from the point of detonation for which you hold the car, but from it

[EXPrompt]

@Vasilenko Vladimir
This is exactly what I have been subtly hinting to my opponent for a long time.
Which is most likely not an opponent with an engineering education, but at best still small .. He will probably get an education and everything will settle down.

[invisible_man]

Well, of course, the whole forum bows before your creative and engineering genius))) And here I am, some small pimple turned up. Who got it into his head that such an amount of liquid would not fit into any rocket ...

[kig]

Quote: EXPrompt

most likely not an opponent with an engineering education

you are obviously a person with an engineering background? Tell us what kind of education gives you the right to assert what you assert. Maybe in the field of explosives? Or maybe even in the field of forensic explosives? Feel free to confess.

[invisible_man]

only here is one bad luck, the direction of the "water" is not from the point of detonation for which you hold the car, but from it

At least that liquid isn't from a rocket's fuel tank. Too much of her.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

can you explain the movement of the blast wave to the bridge, and not from it?

[invisible_man]

can you explain the movement of the blast wave to the bridge, and not from it?

I suppose that the sea water raised by the explosion and the falling elements of the bridge was sucked into the zone of air rarefied by the explosion.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

clear, the problem is that the reverse shock wave occurs after the direct one and not vice versa

[invisible_man]

Vacuum. Have you seen how a nuclear explosion sucks dust into the epicenter?
PS The engineer got offended, minus sits :)

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

how old are you, you didn’t study physics at all, however, like NVP ?!
the reverse shock wave is secondary, first there is an expansion, and after compression and a reverse wave

[invisible_man]

This is the first time I hear the term "reverse shock wave". What it is? There is a "reflected shock wave", for this an obstacle is needed. I am writing to you about rarefied (displaced by a shock wave) air at the epicenter of the explosion, where water was sucked in a moment later. Suction has occurred, roughly speaking, it is not considered to be any "reverse shock wave". Another scientist, damn it)

[EXPrompt]

I have nothing to do but downvote you ...
YES, I was silent for a couple of three hours .. And the man himself showed how he understands the laws of physics of atomic explosions. Let a man open up .. And he will show everything himself

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote from invisible_man

back shock wave

call it what you want, first there is a sharp expansion of gases, as a result you get a shock wave in the direction from the point of explosion to the outside, after the gases burn out and the movement of air masses, a zone of low pressure arises and the effect of a shock wave is obtained to the point of explosion from the outside and it will REVERSE to the first
and an inexhaustible scientist or not, apparently, and the education is the same, I know the topic better than you

[EXPrompt]

@invisible_man
You understand that in the version of the rocket, they most likely tried to shoot it down and far from 1 air defense missile. They are launched to protect such a strategic object with a pair, at least.
I don’t insist, and I can be wrong .. Tomorrow they will show me more accurate and detailed pictures, I will also comprehend them, but today, based on what I saw, the rocket version is more suitable for me ..
Do not want to continue to believe in a truck, I'm not forcing you, I'm just poking at inconsistencies in physical. the process of the explosion of the truck and seen in the video ..

Quote from invisible_man

only here is one bad luck, the direction of the "water" is not from the point of detonation for which you hold the car, but from it

At least that liquid isn't from a rocket's fuel tank. Too much of her.

You are not aware that the fuel in modern, especially combat missiles, is mostly solid. This is how it falls in pieces, burning down like meteors ... I already advised you to google and see how missiles explode, any air defense, by shooting down, by self-destruction ..

[kig]

Quote: EXPrompt

So this meteor shower is burning rocket fuel.

Do you already know which explosive worked? Do you have access to the forensics who are investigating the explosion, and they share the news with you? Known TNT equivalent? What if this is ordinary fertilizer, and "fire splashes" are just the remains of an unexploded mixture?

[Old sergeant]

Already many are inclined that it was not the truck that exploded. Judging by the photographs, the canvas is little damaged, it just flew off the piles.
https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/348349/

[former soldier]

Why then a flash over the canvas? If from below, then the flashes would be from the sides of the bridge.

[invisible_man]

Judging by the photographs, the canvas is slightly damaged.

The photo clearly shows that on the left the canvas is split into 2 parts and formed the letter "V". What are you looking at, I don't understand...

[Old sergeant]

Plenty of photos on the internet.
Of course, the government's priority version is a truck.
It has already been stated that the next red line is the supply of long-range weapons. And it is already in Ukraine, that is. We all wipe our eyes and ears.
Did the truck also arrive at the airfield in Saki?

[invisible_man]

Plenty of photos on the internet.

Photos of what? On all that I saw - no traces of a missile strike.
You wrote that the canvas is slightly damaged. Well, how little something if it split in half?

[Victor19]

Was reading. The version with ATACMS is extremely doubtful.

[Dingo]

Looks like Igor. I also think it's a rocket. The question is with which fuse. Look here - an anti-aircraft missile. It does not exactly "get" into the body of the aircraft - and that is not necessary. Proactive work. The question is in the fuse - at what distance from the target. A shock wave, fragmentation (burning tanks) ... It was induced, and induced in real time (the version with a truck is an excuse from the Moscow Region). Then it is clear how the echelon turned out to be at the point of impact. He was "let down". Two coordinate points with reference to time and speed (extrapolation mode) - we get the right time in the right place. Knowing the time of approach to the target and the time the echelon appeared there, the type of fuse (the mass of the echelon is important) is not difficult to calculate. and Soyuz-1, each for six months).
But this is not an anti-aircraft missile, although the principle is the same. Echelon, not bridge structures, if I'm guessing right.
Yes, I followed your link. Very similar to a punch in Saki. But there both the goal and the task are somewhat different - they hit the surface. Ordinary contact fuse. And no one saw anything either. Even in broad daylight - until it banged. Speed ​​- visually simply impossible. And here in the dark (headlights of cars, external lighting).
From a technical point of view - brilliantly done.
Who are the APU themselves? Unlikely. No satellite support. It was still possible in Saki - static coordinates, a small spread is not critical. I entered the coordinates - fired - forgot.
Here is something else. Guidance. What does guidance taking into account several parameters.
And this is serious. A new level and it was a "trial balloon". It doesn't matter who - but they performed it with jewelry (there is a picture with a fire, the collapse of spans, an information boom ...).
Another thing is important - what do we do with it now? Waiting for a new "truck"? Or is it something else?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Dingo

Another thing is important - what do we do with it now? Waiting for a new "truck"? Or is it something else?

the worst thing is that if this is not a truck, and everyone will blame it, then there will be no debriefing

[Dingo]

Vladimir, I would like to hope for another option - they will all give us bullshit, and the analysis will not be "for everyone." The alternative is a new "truck". That's just where?

[UAZ 452]

Explosives could be delivered under the bridge by divers, a mini submarine could be used, including an unmanned one.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: UAZ 452

Explosives could be delivered under the bridge by divers, a mini submarine could be used, including an unmanned one.

We've seen enough cartoons ..... Divers, mini submarines ..... Then they would have torn the SUPPORT. And the dropping of the canvas of two spans indicates a strong explosion at the junction.

Quote: Old Sergeant

Judging by the photographs, the canvas is little damaged, it just flew off the piles.

"My friend, judge no higher than the boot!" The ends of the canvas are under water, have they already dived under the bridge?

[EXPrompt]

@Maurikiy
Are you a bridge expert?
By the way, whole spans of the bridge can mean that the bridge in this place is hinged by design. In our time, they do not always build bridges as monolithic ones, this is a complex engineering structure. Explosion detonation of the citern shock wave, and the whole span flies off the rails almost undamaged.

[kpd]

It's a couple of meters deep. Mini submarine with midgets on board?

[former soldier]

And if under the bridge at the supports, the edge of the span would have been blown, and the spans themselves would rise and fall. So it's still a wagon.

[Thrifty]

Khodakovsky wrote how he was driving across the bridge, that he did not see the technical means of checking transport and cargo, everything was done in a hurry, and to "get off" very politely. It is this indifference that now comes out to us as terrorist attacks. ...

[fif21]

Quote: Thrifty

that he did not see the technical means of checking transport and cargo, everything was done in a hurry,

Is the ST 6035 Explosive Detection System (EDC) turned off?
The damage is not critical. In the evening, the railway line will start working. One lane of motor traffic was put out of action . Early Bandera rejoice.

[Alex Krymov]

I drove over the bridge towards the Crimea a week ago. But this is so, by the way. On this topic. Now everyone is asking how they didn’t drive it under the “frame”, negligently inspected the traffic cops. And let's ask a question. How could the bridge security services react if a truck loaded with explosives stupidly does not stop at the waving of the guard's baton and continues to drive at a speed of 80-90 km / h to the bridge? What guards for the wheel to keep him? At the beginning of the SVO, after the traffic cops / inspection complex, in front of the first flight there was a checkpoint of the Russian Guard (Ural with an armored booth), a fighter in a body kit with a machine gun and next to it a road barrier with spikes prepared for deployment, see 10. A month and a half since the post was removed.

[Obliterator]

Quote: Alex Krymov

negligently inspected traffic cops.

This is not negligence. Traffic cops are simply not qualified to search for hidden explosives. If they have a truck in front of them, loaded to the top with sealed boxes on pallets, and the documents are properly executed, then they will not open and compare the cargo with the invoice. And if the truck is sealed, then they won’t look at all.

[ZoV]

The Selyuks have a holiday, they destroyed something again .. But it's not them, but their owners!
GDP, give powers to the military .. Stop liberalizing already
This is how things will go, and in Moscow they will begin to undermine
But I'm still happy about this undermining! Now it will go specifically, oh I envy the spotters

Russia is angry!

[lis-ik]

Quote from ZOV

The villagers have a holiday, they destroyed something again ..

Do you also celebrate? Meehan, soon it will be necessary to log in again, I look, I’m not even a foreman anymore.

[Grandfather]

Quote: lis-ik

Meehan, soon it will be necessary to log in again, I look, I’m not even a foreman anymore.

help as much as we can...

[lis-ik]

A person has become attached to VO, how many times I myself promised myself that it would no longer be in life. Only now he has a craving for pluses and chatters him from side to side, counts on newcomers. But the skill (style of presentation) is not drunk away.

[kuztoday]

What do you mean "begin"? Darya Dugin was blown up in Moscow - is that not enough?? They started a long time ago.

[spirit]

So you can throw the blame on local services. And if the supports were blown up, then this is the failure of the entire FSB, who bravado that the bridge is being protected like a fort. special services again in the same Aries a second time

[Plate]

Lay out the real version - hand over your agents and spies. What fools would do that? Such people are, in fact, a valuable resource for any service.

[Abbot]

And what now, the Investigative Committee should coordinate the version with the SBU? Rave. The version is not an opera, its investigation puts forward on the basis of the actual data established at the scene. This is not a version at all.

[Havoc]

Quote: spirit

But here you still need to watch what the SBU will say, and they can wait for what version ours will give out and then lay out the real one, and oh

The most interesting thing is that, in principle, Ukraine does not need an attack on the bridge, with this they untied the hands of the Russian Federation, now, without a twinge of conscience, you can destroy the infrastructure of the square, in principle, they will lose more.
But if they did it, well, for example, the "right sector", all the more so they announced it a long time ago. And now they will become heroes for the crazy ones. Or the Anglo-Saxons did it, making it clear to our leadership that we will do what we want with your infrastructure if you do not accept our conditions. And the worst thing is that they cannot be directly blamed for not blowing up the Nord Stream, not for blowing up the Crimean bridge. Now any territory the act can be attributed to the Ukrainians; the Anglo-Saxons have their hands untied.

[Vitaly161]

what else? an explosion on the canvas occurred, at that time there would only be a passenger car and a long truck (truck) in this area

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Vitaliy161

an explosion on the canvas occurred, at that time there would only be a passenger car and a long truck (truck) in this area

on what canvas?
damn, watch the video through freeze frame

it is clearly visible that the explosion is ABOVE AND RIGHT OF THE FABRIC, at the time of the explosion ALL MACHINES ARE WHOLE

[Vitaly161]

don’t bring blizzards for God’s sake, witnesses of a missile attack, why is there no damage from a high-altitude explosion on the canvas of the oncoming lane? and how then did the oncoming lane stand still? why is there a huge black spot on it from a ground explosion?

[Katyusha]

The oncoming lane also has damage, it is deformed. Alternatively, the near lane took the brunt. But this is not the main thing.
ACTUAL FACT: light from the explosion (there are milliseconds), but on the scroll you can see - STARTS over the still moving truck. Then, during the explosion, it still shines brightly to the right of the canvas, over the sea. Why and what kind of damage after all this is a logical second question. And not the first, as you put.

[Vitaly161]

Yes, yes, deformed, and who are you to say that? the fact that the movement along the surviving canvas is running does not bother you? how could one lane take a hit from above?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

what a snowstorm, you looked at the storyboard, the explosion point is above and to the right of the car, at the time of the explosion the car is ABSOLUTELY WHOLE

[Vitaly161]

you are a provocateur who spends the whole day procrastinating on the topic of a missile strike with some kind of non-existent storyboard

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

once again I will duplicate both the video and the storyboard where you can clearly see the MOMENT OF THE EXPLOSION AND THE WHOLE TRUCK AT THIS VERY MOMENT

[your1970]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

what a snowstorm, you looked at the storyboard, the explosion point is above and to the right of the car, at the time of the explosion the car is ABSOLUTELY WHOLE

The problem is that there are no more than a ton of missiles with a warhead in nature. Well, no ... All known ones are much smaller than warheads.
And it is necessary - if the explosion is air - even more. Much more.
The truck could easily and naturally carry 20 tons of explosives
"Freight traffic on the bridge was opened on October 1, 2018.
"Five hundred ninety-five pillars (bridges) hold 260 tons spans (these are 36 Eiffel Towers)," the information center reported on the parameters of the largest bridge crossing in Russia and Europe."
Roughly one span weighs 500 tons - in order to move / lift this, you need not 150 kg of the Harpoon.

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Vitaliy161

why is there a huge black spot on it from a ground explosion

yes, because two cars burned down to the ground

The passenger car has already been lifted, the truck has been swept away - it did not have time to burn out

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Vitaliy161

why is there a huge black spot on it from a ground explosion

yes, because two cars burned down to the ground

[Vitaly161]

how could they burn if they fell along with the spans? turn on your brains

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

watch the video, I'm already tired of this nonsense, you can see everything on a step-by-step view

[Vitaly161]

looked and saw an exploding truck

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Vitaliy161

and saw an exploding truck

I have no more questions

[Sanguinius]

What are you trying to prove to this person, well, don’t you see, this person, well, doesn’t even want to think about it at all, he simply denies other arguments. For how is it that, well, it cannot be that ours could blow a rocket, they cannot even admit such a possibility. The truck exploded and that's it, although it would seem that the video refutes everything.

[Victor Gusev]

Tech Features CMOS sensors. Search the Internet

[Maestro]

... well, watch the video through a freeze frame ...

and on the first and second videos nothing is visible through the freeze frame - there is an instant flash across the entire screen

we are waiting for the recording of DVRs from the cars behind us to be posted

[Katyusha]

From the "Information for Thought" series. There is one "modest" statement today about yesterday's event: "The message of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation says that the Russian Aerospace Forces over the past day shot down another combat aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force. We are talking about a MiG-29 fighter that was destroyed over the Zaporozhye region.". Perhaps there is a connection. Explosion just from the "correct" side.

[Sanguinius]

The video is posted on YouTube, take the SAMO video in the "playback speed" section to 0.25, and everything will become clear as daylight, this is not a truck.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

and religion does not allow you to work with handles ?!
NO INSTANT LIGHT, I posted freeze frames above with time and other things

[Sanguinius]

Apparently, people just don’t know how to use YouTube ... the video itself on YouTube cannot be set at a speed of 0.25 frames, but everything will immediately fall into place there

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Maestro

and on the first and second videos nothing is visible through the freeze frame - there is an instant flash across the entire screen

hands, work hands

[Maestro]

well, I don’t know ... I made a storyboard from the channel where all the videos of this state of emergency so far are glued together

But all the moments of the explosion are "screens" of different quality from different angles. The frames on the monitor screen do not change instantly. This is where the frame change takes place.

The upper part is the last frame before the explosion, the lower part is the completely overexposed frame of the beginning of the explosion. There is no "flash" on top of the truck

[Abbot]

on the video from the registrar where the driver cursed the sound before the explosion as from arrival
or it seemed to me...
think what you want, in short

[Katyusha]

The upper part is the last frame before the explosion, the lower part is the completely overexposed frame of the beginning of the explosion. There is no "flash" on top of the truck

The difference is that you watch the storyboard from the video at normal speed, while the video that Vladimir brings is uploaded initially at slow speed by its authors (they comment on this). That is, it has the ability to capture a frame at an actual slowdown rate of 0.125 (rather than 0.25). Check it out before it's removed. If you managed to catch a storyboard with a white stripe, then it will not be difficult to catch a more accurate one from the video provided by Vladimir. There is clearly what he cites above, in frame-by-frame screenshots. The initial flash from the explosion is in the upper right corner of the frame, that is, the explosion of the rocket at the upper right of the roadway, over the sea. Well, the "final rocket chord" - powerful streams of shining "lava" from unspent fuel. Across the frame, from the top corner diagonally to the bottom. Sanya In Florida, this is analyzed in detail. But the people have already got hooked on the unfortunate truck. In the next topic there is a discussion of what kind of missiles they could be (according to explosions and destruction, it seems that 2). The danger here is that there could be much more of these missiles (if the United States did supply them). They just couldn't resist applying them according to KM. They can be used during the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the southern direction, which is most likely being prepared by the Saxons. (to the Crimea).

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Katiusha

But the people have already got hooked on the unfortunate truck.

it's just convenient for EVERYONE, because otherwise the question really floats, is it a mistake or ...
and given all the previous problems

[Katyusha]

I don't think everyone. We have the dubious pleasure of watching how the "networked collective unconscious" is being driven along the necessary info-corridor. We are watching. At least we don't participate. Thank you for "slowing down" me at the entrance to the funnel))).

[sagitovich]

Yes, at the moment the outbreak began, the cars were intact!

[Geological prospecting]

it seems that the volume-detonating ammunition has worked, and the flash from above is the arson of the mixture ... and then the flames were blown to the composition ...

[Spark-tia]

But if the explosion is higher and did not touch the mass, how could it destroy so much?

[smart ass]

Everything is clear who is to blame, right now the traffic cop will be declared extreme

[chetvertak]

He checked it! I knew that the 70th anniversary of the GDP could be enlightened on X-ray

[dementor873]

X-ray was included in the list with 1.5 million sets of uniforms.

[smart ass]

Nose to sniff 90 cubic meters of a truck !!!!! I had to

[Havoc]

Quote: ruha

And why is there only one version with a truck? And why didn't they blow it up under the arch. Surely if the span with the arch was damaged, the damage would be greater, or were they aiming at the tanks at the same time ?!

Accordingly, they aimed at the tanks, for more damage, only the tanks were not with gasoline, but with diesel. fuel, which prevented the latter from detonating. If it were gasoline, the destruction would have been colossal.

[Vitaly161]

according to all the laws of physics, full containers of gasoline do not explode, but only burn!!!

[Havoc]

Quote: Vitaliy161

according to all the laws of physics, full containers of gasoline do not explode, but only burn!!!

What are you? And if fuel begins to flow out of a tank pierced by shrapnel onto already formed flames or into red-hot fragments, then what will happen to you. You are our physicist.

[Vitaly161]

there will be a fire inside the tank, and then (with a decrease in the fuel level), due to a fire in the tank, there will be stupidly no oxidizer for the explosion, which actually happened on the bridge, the tanks are empty, but there was no boom

[Maestro]

Version with a truck - because the video shows that the explosion occurs above the roadbed. The passage of the arch by such an explosion - and there there could have been just a few tons of saltpeter in the wagon - would obviously not have been possible to accomplish; in addition, due to the criticality, the roadbed of the span of the arch has a greater margin of safety

[Piramidon]

Quote: ruha

And why is there only one version with a truck? And why didn't they blow it up under the arch.

Most likely the truck had nothing to do with it, it just happened that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. There he was also overtaken by a passenger car at that time, you can also transfer the arrows to it. Judging by the photo with the destruction, the explosion was under the span with partial destruction of the supports. From the explosion of a truck on the bridge deck, 2 spans from the supports will not be swept away. Well, the fact that the arch and the navigable part is most carefully guarded is also known to saboteurs. In the area of ​​​​the arch of the Russian Guard, and in other areas, perhaps some private security company.

[Alex Krymov]

I agree, especially since the first span in the photo was blown off the support. That is, it had to be raised by an explosive wave first, and then moved to the side.

[Havoc]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: ruha

And why is there only one version with a truck? And why didn't they blow it up under the arch.

Most likely the truck had nothing to do with it, it just happened that he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. There he was also overtaken by a passenger car at that time, you can also transfer the arrows to it. Judging by the photo with the destruction, the explosion was under the span with partial destruction of the supports. From the explosion of a truck on the bridge deck, 2 spans from the supports will not be swept away. Well, the fact that the arch and the navigable part is most carefully guarded is also known to saboteurs. In the area of ​​​​the arch of the Russian Guard, and in other areas, perhaps some private security company.

The version is certainly interesting, but the destruction of the support is minimal, and as we see in the video, the explosion was powerful, the second one cannot approach the bridge from the water, there are so many motion sensors and hydro buoys, "webs" are stuck, and it is problematic to raise so many explosives on the support, there obviously not 20 or 50 kg was. The version we were voiced will not be different.

[Old Michael]

In the morning, infa slipped that the train stopped on the bridge, because. the semaphore gave a false signal that the next stage is busy ...

[Alex Krymov]

I already posted on another thread. As for me, the composition at the time of the explosion was standing, judging by the video.

[belovvladimir]

If you carefully consider the photo of the bridge after the terrorist attack, then the explosion was from the bottom, and the explosion of the truck is an addition, two in one, so to speak, and this is a British American special sabotage squad!

[Fisherman]

Ammonium nitrate, which Crimea buys in the fall at 50 tons, is an ideal explosive with the right to pass through any posts. This time. At such a speed, it is impossible to blow up saltpeter right under the arch, it is not a plastid, saltpeter has more inertia, and such an explosion under the arch will not bring results, because the blast wave goes in the direction of least resistance and will simply go around the openwork arch without harming it, therefore such a volumetric explosion was most likely designed to ignite fuel tanks so that the high combustion temperature would “lower” metal and concrete .... but it didn’t work out, our engineers turned out to be design geniuses!

[Vertigo]

Well, it’s necessary to screw up Odabami on clusters, why the hell are we waiting for when the dirty one hits us? AU General Staff wake up, finally open your eyelids!

[SKVichyakow]

Quote from Vertigo

Well, it’s necessary to screw up Odabami on clusters, why the hell are we waiting for when the dirty one hits us? AU General Staff wake up, finally open your eyelids!

It won't reach them.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: SKVichyakow

AU General Staff wake up, finally open your eyelids!

It won't reach them.

Who knows ... Maybe it will fly ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: SKVichyakow

It won't reach them.

With such looking back, it was not worth getting stuck in the NWO. If you have decided to fight, then you need to consider everything.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: SKVichyakow

It won't reach them.

With such looking back, it was not worth getting stuck in the NWO. If you have decided to fight, then you need to consider everything.

And if you counted on the fact that it would work anyway, at 41m you can see that they also thought so, we’ll shower it with hats. It didn't work then, and it doesn't work now. Not henchmen should be in power, but specialists.

[Piramidon]

Quote: SKVichyakow

And if you counted on the fact that it would work anyway

We counted on the fact that the "fraternal Ukrainian people" would meet us there with flowers and pies, just as in 41 they hoped that the German proletariat would stage a revolution and overthrow Hitler.

[Abbot]

And here is the 41st?! In the topic, not in the topic, but it is necessary to put the Second World War. Why did we attack the Germans in 41? Which side is the beginning of the NWO? We think with our heads, not with our asses, dear.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Abbot

And here is the 41st?! In the topic, not in the topic, but it is necessary to put the Second World War. Why did we attack the Germans in 41? Which side is the beginning of the NWO? We think with our heads, not with our asses, dear.

And then, and now, we thought that we would shower them with "hats".

[Abbot]

Disagree. Propaganda and militarization of society is one thing, preparation for war is another. You understand what I mean - industry, covert mobilization, the transfer of troops to the west and preparations for the evacuation of enterprises beyond the Urals. While they sang about a powerful blow and defeat on enemy soil, at that time work was in full swing. What can not be said about SVO.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Abbot

Propaganda and militarization of society is one thing, preparation for war is another.

The result from this understanding at the output is still the same.

[Abbot]

What - showered with hats? The Wehrmacht is at least approximately equal in power to the Armed Forces of Ukraine? No.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Abbot

What - showered with hats? The Wehrmacht is at least approximately equal in power to the Armed Forces of Ukraine? No.

Not ready for NWO, in the 41st unpreparedness for war. You yourself have drawn the same conclusion above.

[Abbot]

Quite the contrary, the USSR prepared hard, took a powerful blow and withstood it. Unlike the same France, which was also preparing and was at war for a year. Comparison with 1941 in relation to the NWO and the readiness of the Russian Federation on points is not in our favor. Therefore, your conclusions about the identity of expectations and reality in 1941 and in 2022 are nonsense and shit on the fan.

[Vertigo]

Minusators, I'm already going to come to you utyrks soon, I'll have time to do something!

[culinary]

Quote from Vertigo

Minusators, I'm already going to come to you utyrks soon, I'll have time to do something!

What is it?
What for?
What will it change in the war?

[SKVichyakow]

Quote from Vertigo

Minusators, I'm already going to come to you utyrks soon, I'll have time to do something!

No need to dwell on them, and pay attention.

[MMX]

Quote from Vertigo

Well, it’s necessary to screw up Odabami on clusters, why the hell are we waiting for when the dirty one hits us? AU General Staff wake up, finally open your eyelids!

The General Staff has already used everything possible. The mobilization has already been announced. We could not suppress air defense. therefore, we have more aviation as an observer.

[dedusik]

According to law enforcement agencies, at the entrance to the Crimean bridge there are stationary inspection and inspection radio-technical complexes ST-6035 of the Departmental Security Department of the Ministry of Transport of Russia, which shine through all vehicles.

The complex is equipped with devices that can detect the presence of drugs, explosives and chemicals even two months after the last contact with them. Thanks to him, you can see the density of the metal, its infrared spectrum and many other parameters. In this regard, questions arise about the shift on duty, which missed the truck, as well as about the operation of the equipment.
https://life.ru/p/1529838

And the question is HOW?

[Li17]

Quote: dedusik

And the question is HOW?

you somehow drive up and if you can see how everything looks with the light! I personally saw that I had to somehow draw up a military vehicle. No, if you think that they were carrying shell bombs, then everything is right! Or do you not know what an explosive is? If you don't tell, you might not know!

[dmi.pris1]

Moreover, it was early morning, there was little traffic. There was no order to drive the trucks to X-ray?

[Nastia makarova]

so he was not passed through this system

[chetvertak]

No one knows what to do with an increased terrorist threat? Does it mean that every truck must be inspected?
Such inspections should be in 1 km in 5 rows, as in Israel.
What actions should 2 of the Russian Guards take? Stop every 11 car after 10 cars passing by? The yellow level on the bridge or on the road should be somehow technically equipped. We chose the right time! so that there would be minimal victims for the terrorist attack.

[astepanov]

Quote: dedusik

you can see the density of the metal, its infrared spectrum and many other parameters

Don't read rubbish. The infrared spectra of all metals are the same, and therefore it is pointless to look at something in the infrared range.

[Fenix844]

I am not an expert. But I read that there is a technique that determines explosives remotely. Not metal, but explosives.

[Maestro]

the question is HOW?

ST-6035 has a throughput of only 25 cars per hour - even in the "amplification mode" you will not let all the trucks through it in a row. Here, in the documents, "fertilizers" could well have been carried - otherwise we remember how saltpeter explodes from the events in the port of Beirut

[Alexandr2637]

And still no answer! So where is the traitor, if not in the Kremlin?

[Vitaly161]

let's wait for the night? maybe our videoconferencing forces will work on bridges and ukrov thermal power plants

[kuztoday]

Damn, well, what do these answers give then? Well, they blew up the bridge for us, we gave them a thermal power plant, they killed our Dasha, we killed their Petya ... They are SP-1, we are some kind of barracks. Well, what does it give? And so you can beat each other for years .. and then we will have girls getting married at all? .. or what? Who needs this war?

[chetvertak]

It’s too late to make answers! The United States imposed sanctions against China on microelectronics. Now that’s it. It remains only to fight with what our industry has in the element base

[invisible_man]

Once, after the terrorist attack in the Moscow metro, all passengers began to be checked at the entrance, as it should be. As a result, the work of the transport enterprise was completely paralyzed, and gigantic queues formed on the streets. An hour later, the large police force surrendered and gave the order to loosen control.

[Dart2027]

Quote from invisible_man

As a result, the work of the transport enterprise was completely paralyzed.

For some it is useless to explain.

[Yapet100]

I remember our warnings about the red lines. So what??? Blow up and rejoice. With such steps, the authorities will lose all the trust of the people, as incapable of defending themselves... What will happen next????? I don't want to think anymore!

[Thrifty]

Yapet100 - now they will scare the adversary with ultraviolet lines, since the red ones do not work. ...

[Yapet100]

TO THE THRULY: the adversary will run away from the ultraviolet borders without looking back!

[man]

With such steps, the authorities will lose all the trust of the people, as incapable of defending themselves ...
only not themselves, but the people. The authorities protect themselves very well ...

[astepanov]

Quote: Yapet100

will lose all the trust of the people, as unable to defend itself ...

Well, the government will somehow protect itself, you should not worry about it. Another thing is bad: if they fuss with the enemy, he becomes impudent. And this is already happening - and it will get worse. I have been saying for a long time: Zelensky, his team, the Rada as a whole, officers of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, heads of the military industry, critical infrastructure facilities should be priority targets. We have blown up a gas pipeline, killed (on our territory!) Dugin, shelled the border areas, now here is a diversion on the bridge - and zero reaction. Ukrainians have already confirmed: yes, the bridge is their job. And what are we waiting for? I'm already thinking: maybe all these "having no anals" are fake? Or diplomas of military academies bought in the subway? Or is there (God forbid!) a colossal betrayal?

[Tusv]

Fuck the gays were humiliated. The driver was not drunk, he was driving at the allowed speed. low beam headlights are on. How do you define a terrorist here?

[Plate]

Seriously. If the explosive is hermetically sealed, then even the dog will not smell anything right off the bat. I join you. How were the guards supposed to identify the terrorist?

[ada]

Quote: Plate

If the explosive is hermetically packed, then even the dog will not smell anything right away. ...

Here, next to the topic, Konnik wrote that the cargo was stretch film. I remember exactly that there was information about mastering the manufacture of explosives in the form of thin-film materials - I don’t remember when (maybe official) and the conclusion of specialists that this is ideal for terrorist attacks, and recently it flashed in some media. Nobody heard? I can't remember.

[Plate]

I am not, because I am not interested in the subject. I only remember reading about detonating cords (extended charges) for a long time. Reinforce the packaging of a harmless weight (saltpeter, for example) with such and please.
The advantage of terrorists is that the product of the number of possible objects of attack by possible methods tends to infinity. To protect all of them - no money is enough. A terrorist has the opportunity to save money and choose only one path.

[aglet]

"To protect all of them - no money is enough. And a terrorist has the opportunity to save money and choose only one path"
and what do we have, in that direction, very fucking strategic objects? it seems like one bridge, but nothing else

[Plate]

You can still attack schools, hospitals, kindergartens, shops, factories, railway stations...
If every car was checked on the bridge, I suspect that there would be more losses from this than now from its restoration.

[Havoc]

Quote: ada

Quote: Plate

If the explosive is hermetically packed, then even the dog will not smell anything right away. ...

Here, next to the topic, Konnik wrote that the cargo was stretch film. I remember exactly that there was information about mastering the manufacture of explosives in the form of thin-film materials - I don’t remember when (maybe official) and the conclusion of specialists that this is ideal for terrorist attacks, and recently it flashed in some media. Nobody heard? I can't remember.

Dear, these tales are from the category of liquid explosives, no one has seen it, but people with water are still a nightmare at airports. What order to wrap with a film to blow up, the plastid is more convenient.

[chetvertak]

He put the signature under his own and that’s it. But he doesn’t know what to do next! Let other departments do this. The fact that he doesn’t pull on the commander-in-chief at all! it seems that it will roll downward with some success.

[Plate]

Quote from: hetvertak

And he doesn't know what to do next!

And he does not have to know, because he is not a military man.

Quote from: hetvertak

Let other departments do it.

Well, yes. There is a military department, let it decide such issues. Otherwise, why is it there?

Quote from: hetvertak

The fact that he does not pull on the commander-in-chief at all is a fact!

Putin did not present himself as some kind of commander-in-chief, wow.
The task of the president is not to understand all the issues of the country, but to appoint people to understand. And this, judging by the available intermediate results, did not work out - yes, I agree here. But specifically your claims to me personally seem groundless.

[chetvertak]

I personally don’t project on anyone! I express my opinion about the GDP, about its knowledge. He understands what the text in the document is about, and whether it will be clear to the population, after its signature, like a decree

[Olesya Lesya]

From the video it is clear that they looked at the "tyap-blunder" and let it through to a strategic object. Here and sloppiness and check everyone who missed it, bribery is also possible. In short, they pecked well in the ass, it would be time to do control as in wartime, if they don’t want a repeat.

[Asad]

At least trained dogs, traces of explosives must remain during loading. It is clear that the load is large, and you will have to keep a large staff, but it’s cheaper than such a disaster.

[Vitaly161]

and if it was not explosive, but ammonium nitrate? it is not an explosive in itself, but under certain conditions it makes boom badabum

[Arisaka]

Of course, I am not special, but it seems to me that such goods are either transported by another route (ship) or by train where specially trained people will control everything. In general, trucks cannot go through the Nizhny Novgorod hydroelectric power station, it is impossible to stop. Trucks are driving around. For if they blow it up, it will be bad for the city.

[Li17]

Quote: Olesyai Lesya

From the video it is clear that they looked at the "tyap-blunder" and let it through to a strategic object.

Can you imagine what it means to really check the car? One?

[cooper]

Well, our hmm .. The Guarantor is still silent. Maybe it's time already there "above" to finally explain to the people ?? What is this so-called NWO such that we are not doing anything to cut down the Ukrofascist hydra to the root? Where are the crushing blows to the political / military elite of the ukroreich? Throughout the critical infrastructure of Nazi Ukraine, along the routes / means of delivery of Western weapons? Why has Nazi Ukraine not yet been declared a terrorist state? And many more "why"...

[paul3390]

Rear Admiral John Kirby, a spokesman for the Pentagon, said that, contrary to the logic of hostilities, US intelligence did not record a single attempt by the RF Armed Forces and the LDNR by any means to block the flow of American and European weapons coming into the possession of the front-line units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from late February to mid-April.

“Flights to transfer points are still carried out, there is a ground movement every day of security assistance, weapons, equipment. We will continue to do this as quickly and as much as possible,” he said.

The main (90%) volume of Western military and material assistance to the Kyiv regime, which lost over 70% of the weapons available on February 24, comes by rail from western Ukraine (Lviv), bordering Poland and Slovakia.

Vulnerabilities - three bridge crossings within the range of tactical missiles and airborne forces, which can be destroyed by three pinpoint strikes at known coordinates. In this case, communications that support the viability and military stability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the regime as a whole will be destroyed with the prospect of restoration at least a month or two. Alternative trucking by road does not compensate for the logistical disaster. However, this does not happen, just as many enterprises of the basic economic and defense structure controlled by Kyiv avoid missile and bomb raids.

[man]

Rear Admiral John Kirby, a spokesman for the Pentagon, said that, contrary to the logic of hostilities, US intelligence did not record a single attempt by the RF Armed Forces and the LDNR by any means to block the flow of American and European weapons coming into the possession of the front-line units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from late February to mid-April.
Our guys at the front know this without any Kirby, they experience it for themselves ... (((

[chetvertak]

We only learn from mistakes! We are shown weak points with strikes on the Crimea, near Kharkov
That's when we eliminate all the weak points, only then we will hit them back.

[Egoza]

Now they will find the switchmen and tell the people to calm down. (((

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egoza

Now they will find the switchmen and tell the people to calm down.

Of course, they will find more than one switchman, but the "answer" had to be applied in the morning, and a dozen bridges, power plants and other "decision-making points" should be applied.
But it is felt that they will swallow it and lower it on the brakes, "they wanted .. but as always."

[Conserv71]

What about a suicide driver? Maybe it's just a rocket.

[invisible_man]

The driver could be used "blindly". And - certainly used.

[Conserv71]

Could easily. But there are a lot of questions where the car was prepared for the explosion. And this means that agents of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are operating on the territory of the Russian Federation. And no one is worried about anything. All is calm in Baghdad.

[Conserv71]

This cargo somehow got to the Russian Federation or it was prepared on the territory of the Russian Federation. And that means there are people and bases of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of the Russian Federation.

[Plate]

Quote: Conserv71

And this means that agents of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are operating on the territory of the Russian Federation.

It is quite obvious that there are Ukrainian agents in Russia. And along with them are American, German, Chinese, Hindu, Iranian... As well as they have Russian agents there. By itself, this conclusion does not carry any discovery.

[Conserv71]

Of course, you are right only that there are no explosions on the territory of those states.

[kuztoday]

Worried, but just do not have time everywhere. The country is big, there are not enough people, there is no money for anything)

[Conserv71]

Quote from kuztoday

no more money)

Well, who knew that our Western partners would take 300 billion.

[Nastia makarova]

SK missile is already rejected, there are no submunitions

[Havoc]

Quote: Conserv71

What about a suicide driver? Maybe it's just a rocket.

And the driver might not have known, but rather he didn’t know everything, he loaded the cargo and drove it, and the explosion was done remotely from the back of a moving car, for example, or even from a satellite. The first option is preferable. it was also necessary to hook the train with tanks, visually it is easier to do.

[Poru4ik]

“If they hit Crimea, then Judgment Day will come for them. Very fast and heavy."
Dmitry Medvedev 17/07/2022.
We will have a look.

[Conserv71]

The man gave the word The man took the word. All is calm in Baghdad.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Conserv71

The man gave the word The man took the word. All is calm in Baghdad.

it looks like Russia is being led to the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine. So it is necessary to look for other opportunities to strike, according to Svidoukria. I'm sure they exist.

[Third district]

Quote: Poru4ik

If they hit the Crimea, then Judgment Day will come for them. Very fast and heavy."
(Dmitry Medvedev July 17, 2022.)

The word is not a sparrow.

So after all, they were already hitting the airfield in the Crimea, the headquarters of the fleet, now the bridge. I just watched our propagandists on TV, they say that this is a provocation. And the most important thing is not to succumb to it and not to hit the critical points of Ukraine. They say they are just waiting for this to accuse Russia of crimes. In general, our guardian propagandists show the party line. There will be no decisive action.

[Conserv71]

That's right, nothing terrible happened in Baghdad, everything is calm!

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Conserv71

All is calm in Baghdad!

In Baghdad, it has long been very restless .... Tell me why?

[Conserv71]

Dear comrade Yuri, do not confuse your Bagdat with their Bagdat. On your im put . But in their Baghdad everything is calm.

[Xnumx vis]

Do you, Mr. Roman, have several Baghdads?

[Conserv71]

Quote: 30 vis

Do you, Mr. Roman, have several Baghdads?

I want to clarify what you mean? And so my Baghdad is in one place, and our government has it in general on another planet, and everything is calm there.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Conserv71

And so my Baghdad is in one place

Have cryopele?

[Conserv71]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: Conserv71

And so my Baghdad is in one place

Have cryopele?

It is a pity that you did not understand my metaphorical expression. I propose to conduct self-training ... Raise your level of knowledge. Broaden your horizons

[Conserv71]

Quote: 30 vis

In Baghdad, it has long been very restless .... Tell me why?

So tell me

[Xnumx vis]

I propose to conduct self-training ... Raise your level of knowledge. Expand your horizons.

[Conserv71]

Yes, I didn’t expect at all that you, Yuri, would complain about me to the Admin. And then everyone asks, “Who wrote 3 denunciations to the NKVD?” ahhahahahah Let's end our conversation on a minor note. From now on, I will not respond to your provocations. One warning from the Admin was enough for me. All the best to you, stay healthy.

[Xnumx vis]

And you thought that you can be rude with impunity? And to the question of complaints to the admin from me ... Sorry. didn't have time to write! VO is full of my like-minded people! I also wanted to pull your mustache ... Goodbye !!

[myka2013]

Quote: Conserv71

Yes, I didn’t expect at all that you, Yuri, would complain about me to the Admin. And then everyone asks, “Who wrote 3 denunciations to the NKVD?” ahhahahahah Let's end our conversation on a minor note. From now on, I will not respond to your provocations. One warning from the Admin was enough for me. All the best to you, stay healthy.

ahahahahahah

[myka2013]

I also believe that our leadership lives on another planet. Everything is good there. All is calm in Baghdad.

[myka2013]

[/ quote] VO is full of my like-minded people! [quote]

Probably 3 million ahahahahahahaha

[Xnumx vis]

Quote from myka2013

VO is full of my like-minded people!

Probably 3 million ahahahahahahaha

Son ... Giggle into the toilet, they will hear you and support you there. Your fecal associates

[myka2013]

ahahahahahah Not Yuri with me, such a trick will not work. hahahahaah

Quote: Conserv71
Yes, I didn’t expect at all that you, Yuri, would complain about me to the Admin. And then everyone asks, “Who wrote 3 denunciations to the NKVD?” ahhahahahah Let's end our conversation on a minor note. From now on, I will not respond to your provocations. One warning from the Admin was enough for me. All the best to you, stay healthy.

All the best to you. Goodbye !! yuri ahahahaha
And then you will also complain hahahahahaha

[Romanovski]

There is no bridge (they blew it up), but you hold on ....

[Evergreen]

Well, Medvedev has been talking a lot lately.
Apparently he's emboldened.
Before that, I sat quietly

[Fenix844]

There are many people close to the throne who say that Nedimon thumps like crazy))
And this, in general, is not a secret.

[man]

“If they hit Crimea, then Judgment Day will come for them. Very fast and heavy."
(Dmitry Medvedev July 17, 2022.)
found someone to quote...

[Conserv71]

I think it's on topic now.
"An army of rams led by a lion will always prevail over an army of lions led by a ram." Better is a lion at the head of a herd of rams than a ram at the head of a herd of lions. (Napoleon I). If you put rams at the head of lions, then lions become rams, but vice versa, even a ram will have a lion's heart.

[kuztoday]

There is more than one such Medvedev in the government. They say that Zelensky is a clown? And in my opinion all the clowns are sitting in the Kremlin ..

[Boris Sergeev]

Until the wasp nests where these operations are being developed are destroyed, everything else will be a palliative.

[AYa_Mikhailov]

I will risk drawing on myself the fire of criticism, especially patriotic because of the computer
Of course, this explosion is a crime, whoever did it.
But this explosion is not a "failure" of the work of domestic special services, it is a 100% indicator of the complete absence of their work.
Although the leadership orders the population to believe otherwise
And if you believe that the bridge is one of the most protected objects,
it is obvious that since the rest of the objects are "not the best" - then under the threat of destruction in general all objects
And, I dare say, blowing up a substation in the yard of my apartment building will be MUCH more dangerous
for the population than undermining this bridge. And if next to the Tander logistics center, then - not much, but qualitatively more dangerous!
It is obvious that the management is simply lying about the fact that they have taken care of the safety of the population at all.
It is easy to announce mobilization, to equip the army with mobilized ones is very difficult, but to apply it - the "result" speaks for me.
And what about preventing the activities of foreign (let's call them that) sabotage services on the territory of the country?
It's not for bloggers to break doors and not to drag demonstrators into prisons, is it?
Over the past month, this is already the third symptom that nothing - NOTHING that SHOULD exist in the country - because the leadership CREATED and reported on "creation", "formation", "accumulation", etc. - this is not really the case.
There is none of this.
What isn't there yet?

[Li17]

Stand in the place of traffic cops and you will understand everything. The truck could have nothing to do with it (and even ours, I know how truckers work) it's all about the load. Logistically, they loaded boxes with anything written on them, but not explosives! That's all. Thoughtful and beautiful. Well, we are left only in Moscow (I'm talking about the cruiser), they say firecrackers and fireworks exploded. And in the echelon there is a wheel bay!

[Leonidych]

Absolutely. Drove and did not know that he was carrying explosives. It was loaded with saltpeter, the documents were issued, everything is clean. only among the cargo was a detonator that was activated using an ordinary cell phone. ALL,

[sifgame]

Explosives, especially in such quantities, cannot be bought at a flea market. How did they manage to load a whole truckload of explosives into the Russian Federation. This question can be asked to anyone from the heads of different levels and departments.

[Li17]

Quote: sifgame

Explosives, especially in such quantities, cannot be bought at a flea market.

I beg of you! I will not tell you, but quite acceptable components can be used as explosives!

[sifgame]

I beg you, don't tell if you don't know. Permissible components are explosives and a truck of acceptable components, this is not permissible on the territory of the Russian Federation.

[man]

Logistically, they loaded boxes with anything written on them, but not explosives!
here are the hypocritical bastards! And they should have written "Explosives! Do not turn over!"

[Inner Smile]

The Moskva missile cruiser, the joint venture gas pipeline, the Crimean bridge ... Where else will it explode? In the meantime, new "red lines" must be drawn and said - "Now, if you try again, we will show you .."

[sifgame]

Come on, a transformer of some caliber will now be set on fire until the next time.

[Esaul]

The next attack could very well be a dirty bomb somewhere in a major Russian city. Americans, I'm sure it has already been provided to Ukrainians.

[sifgame]

Eeenet, this is not according to the canons. a dirty bomb will be detonated in Kyiv. Of course, I'm not Zhirinovsky, but it's understandable.

[Ural resident]

In any case, despite the complete failure .. there is nothing to answer now and it’s stupid to answer. This had to be done immediately, tit for tat, but now they have only carried out mobilization until the soldiers get to the front, it is worth thinking about not surrendering other territories. Well, they didn’t take care of it in advance "there", alas. And 300 thousand is clearly not enough, you need to recruit a very large army and then methodically crush with a skating rink. And now they are waiting for impulse strikes from ours.
I am afraid that this is a multi-way move, it was not in vain that society in the West prepared for so long about the alleged desire to use nuclear weapons by Russia. Surely something has already been brought in and can be used as a "response" for the bridge. Especially at the moment of applying punitive blows with the same daggers. And then prove that it's not us. And the enemy really wants a local nuclear batch.

[skeptic]

It looks like a mess in the NWO zone. As long as we fight in white gloves, we’ll see something else.
We are unlikely to hear comments from big bosses. Only empty threats .. like .. we express concern.
What else needs to be blown up so that the "Decision Makers" wake up and start earning their salary for real.

[4ekist]

skept The mess seems to be in the NWO zone.

The slow-witted ones from the leadership of the operation and those responsible for mobilization must be driven to hell or judged. This is what is happening, everything is left to chance like shit with the flow.

[zenion]

What are the white gloves that cover your eyes with? There are no warriors, no people with brains. Even if there were such, they would not be allowed to do anything while the country is ruled by money! It was necessary to think of keeping such money away from the people. They are driven like a donkey with a carrot for this money. Purely in the current retelling is not "Treasure Island" But the treasure west. The pirates hid the money away from the people.

[certero]

In fact, at the entrances to the Crimean bridge there is a system for detecting explosives, chemical and other substances. Through which all trucks must come.

[Li17]

Are you serious? Was it curious? We also have a lot of things according to statements and other screams and threats! And at exhibitions such products are edge! And as a result, we buy drones, raise money for quadcopters and thermal imagers, fight on junk, communication finally turns out to be at the level of Chinese walkie-talkies. And the famous reconnaissance satellites, combat complexes, electronic warfare equipment ... No clothes, no medical kits. Well, the cherry on the cake, there is NO truth and commanders, only screams and show-offs!

[al3x]

I have already ceased to understand, is this a special operation to destroy Russia with the tacit consent of the guarantor, or what is it in general? He is "beaten on the lips with a bolt", all and sundry, but he does not care. What the hell is going on anyway?
Purely my opinion, as an observer from the outback.

[chetvertak]

So if he is illiterate, why hit him on the lips with a bolt! Everything was canceled for him, amendments to the constitution were made for a new term. And so on. Do you want to understand something in military affairs? they hardly understand how to lead the troops. They barely remembered the word “mobilization” after the Kharkov events.

[Berkut752]

And why is the version not being considered, a magnetic mine with a clockwork on a tank. And THAT is a car, a truck .....

[tihonmarine]

Judging by the frames of the video, nothing much has changed in the work of the traffic police after the transition to the new regime.

After the collapse of the Union, on the borders with the Baltic republics, preliminary inspection points were organized, and only after inspection were vehicles allowed to enter the border.

[Waterways 672]

The mess at first was complete. Partisan paths to the same Latvia dragged fuel, flour, metal. Collective farm tractors were stolen from the border regions of the Pskov region or Latvians exchanged a used "Moskvich" for, for example, a T-25 tractor. The bandits became more active, shaking the border merchants, forcing them to pay tribute, "putting them on the counter." It happened that loaded fuel trucks impudently broke through the border, the border guards fired into the air, and not at the car - they were afraid of an explosion. A lot of criminal things happened, then everything gradually settled down.

[tsvetahaki]

We have some cunning plans, according to which everything is going ... You won’t understand without the Academy of the General Staff ...
But the main thing is to preserve the infrastructure of Ukraine. It is not divine to destroy it, ties with the oligarchs do not allow ...

[Ivan Ivanov]

When the Crimean bridge was being built, the Russian Guard officially offered to take it completely under guard. The department had such experience: earlier, internal troops successfully guarded railway bridges on the Trans-Siberian and BAM.
However, the then leadership of the Ministry of Transport convinced the government that they could cope with this task on their own.
Two years ago, “Peculiarities of protection against acts of unlawful interference of transport infrastructure facilities around which security zones are being established” were approved (p / p of September 29.09.2020, 1566 N XNUMX). This document clearly delimited the areas of responsibility for the protection of the Crimean bridge.
"Protection of the road and railway components of the transport crossing" - was entrusted to the departmental guards of the Ministry of Transport and Roszheldor. In turn, only the protection of the water area of ​​the bridge (water and underwater parts) was assigned to the Russian Guard.
Moreover, with the beginning of the NWO, the Ministry of Transport did not introduce an enhanced security regime for the transport crossing and did not change the categorization of the security level: the Crimean bridge remained a transport infrastructure object of the 2nd category. Although, if the bridge was transferred to the 1st category, the inspection of transport (at least freight!) Would be carried out not selectively, but totally.

[Maestro]

"total inspection" using the st-6035 complex is the passage of 25 cars per hour across the bridge. Was it worth building a 4-lane highway so that 600 cars a day would pass through it in each direction?

[Normal]

Presumably exploded. I'm not sure yet. E. Your mother presumably

[rocket757]

Especially if no such command was received from above.

. What commands came from above?
Don't let your guard down, huh?
Then the question is upstairs ... what kind of "games" do they play there, until now ???

[Vic Vic]

Even during the construction of the bridge, they could have laid the foundations, as at the stadium, when Akhmad Kadyrov was blown up. Thousands of people worked on the construction of the bridge.
Is there video surveillance under the bridge, so you can see the canvas from below? The entire bridge from top to bottom needs to be inspected urgently ...

[Dart2027]

Quote from vicvic

Even during the construction of the bridge, they could have laid the foundations, as at the stadium, when Akhmad Kadyrov was blown up.

Oh, by the way, it's an option.

[Sergey Samkov]

To prosecute those who are responsible for the security of a strategic facility !!! C*****ka, the 7th month is the NWO, troops and equipment are being transferred over the bridge, and the bridge is guarded by the traffic police post!!!!!!! MO, what are you smoking there???

[lis-ik]

Well, what the hell. Strengthening there has always been, and not just the traffic police. So you have found the culprit?

[Akim]

Russians, can't you drop a pair of FAB 3000s on the Kyiv bridges across the Dnieper?

[zenion]

Throw on bridges across the Dnieper? And if they get offended and cut off gas and oil, what about income then? The impression from Russia is that war games continue.

[SIT]

The explosive charge is clearly not less than a hundred kg of TNT. Where is this found in Russia? How did no one notice this? Where and who loaded the truck? Now it can be promoted by the forces of the UK. But even though we have a SVO, and not a war, military counterintelligence must understand that there is no difference for it. She should have tracked it BEFORE. Where are the security professionals? I'm not talking about those who sat on the schemes, milked the merchants and put billions in cash in a 3-room apartment specially bought for this. Of these, the counterintelligence officer is like a bullet out of shit. Or are there no pros left at all, but only colonels zaharchenki who can only squeeze out loot? Well then, shoulder straps with meat down with privates in the penal battalion to the front to atone for the people for their greed and stupidity! For trying to pay off immediately to the wall.

[Vladimir61]

It remains to be seen who and what spent 12 billion to ensure the safety of the bridge and its infrastructure.

[Anton Yu]

A video from the camera of the railway bridge has been posted. First there is a powerful explosion, then a flash under the bridge and another explosion in a place where the truck did not reach.

[Pontius Pilate]

I returned home to Simferopol on the 6th, early in the morning. Trucks drove into a separate lane, fenced off. Everything. They did not touch my passenger car, they stopped it selectively. Why this car was not driven into a separate corridor, I do not understand.

[Luminman]

It is not clear, but the driver of the truck was a kamikaze or what? Where does he go?

[Ossetian]

What is the capacity of the truck's tanks? If a kamikaze is driving, then solariums can only be heated to get there, and the rest is explosive. And explosives can also have a liquid form (the same "petal")

[zenion]

Strange though. The tanks have such a look as if they were cut by fragments and they caught fire. There were two arrivals of missiles. The accuracy diverged a little, one rushed under the bridge, and the other a little higher and hit the train. They aimed at the train, but it shifted a little and exploded and caught fire all at the same time. My guess is that they are rockets. They wanted to burn the entire bridge by means of a strike on the echelon, but it did not work out. But the fact that there will be a successful echelon with fuel, how did they know? For those who are from above to the light bulb, what they are transporting may be water, but the fact that the Ukrainians were prompted with fuel, they have been waiting for it for a long time.

[Esaul]

A lot of questions. Why was the train with fuel just standing on the bridge. Why didn't they check the truck. If it was a missile, why didn't the air defense work. Without help from within the Russian Federation, it would be impossible to plan this, it is necessary to carry out a purge in the Moscow Region.

[zenion]

Esaul. It's smartly done! He could not spill fuel all over the bridge. Maybe the calculation was that it would still go. God forbid, if the second rocket hit more additional tanks, it would be hell.

[Viktor Vladimirovich]

The situation reached the point of absurdity.
While they are frantically shuffling fat-assed generals, maybe it makes sense for us to form a partisan unit based on the experience of Kovpak and repeat his historical raid on the rear of the Nazis?

[lopvlad]

The truck that allegedly exploded on the Crimean bridge

apparently, until the SBU starts blowing up bridges in Moscow, the Russian authorities will continue to chew snot. Belgorod border villages lie in ruins, and Zelensky freely walks around Kyiv and demands a preventive nuclear strike on Russia.
The West has already understood that the Kremlin is now in a crisis of political will of the very will when the main interests of the existence of the state should be the main ones and not the interests of Gazprom, Rosneft, Norilsk Nickel and their owners.
In the past few months, I have been feeling that the Russian elite is preparing to drain Russia in the form of capitulation to the West.
It's time to start not in words but in deeds to prove that "Why do we need a world in which there is no Russia."

[Atmospheric QUEEN]

More like either an explosion from below or a rocket to the side of the bridge. In the video, after the explosion, a wave of fragments and sparks goes, as it were, from the right side of the bridge to the left. The experts will figure it out. And what's the difference now.

[Esaul]

Strong side wind, this can be seen from the smoke after the explosion.

[restless]

Why are there no dogs working for explosives, in the second Chechen one at every checkpoint there were dogs for explosives and ammunition, and here is a strategic bridge, some kind of bungling, all this from impunity ...

[zenion]

Dogs refused to work for such a salary - they said - smell it yourself!

[Esaul]

All this is the result of 20 years of degradation of power and elites. All this time they simply did not associate themselves with Russia. Here they only stole, and then bought real estate in the west, sent their children there to study, be treated, and rest. More than one annual budget of the Russian Federation of stolen money has already flown to the West in this way. And this infection spread all 20 years, first from the top, then along the middle link. And the people see it all. And from impotence, lack of justice, he simply loses faith and motivation for good conscientious work for the benefit of society, because there is no point in this with such leadership.

[16112014nk]

It was also lucky that no passenger train passed over the bridge. Such an explosion could have thrown him off the bridge. The tanks are still heavier, and remained in place.

[blackcat]

If the bomb was not in the truck, the truck was at the bottom of the sea, I don’t understand why there are no dogs trained for explosives at the posts and this is the negligence of the FSB, after all, she is responsible for the bridge, but delivering half a ton of explosives and laying it down, well, it’s generally difficult, but so the driver might not have been aware at all, and therefore he behaved naturally, plus buying a truck without re-registration evokes certain thoughts and doubts, made a short mistake, because there is no war, here are the rolls and relaxed, well, the result is all over the face

[Sidhe]

I would like to hope that appropriate organizational conclusions will be made.

[Mcarrow]

Victory on the "uroine" will be unambiguous, after that we will have to fix it all. This may be the reason for not really destroying the infrastructure, although I could be wrong. As for what is divided, the thought has a place to be.

[Lako]

If now they don’t start hacking on the bridges across the Dnieper and in Western Ukraine, then this is no longer indifference, but outright betrayal

[vadim_ivanov]

In any video editor, not even a specialist, but an ordinary citizen, it is clear that the Truck has nothing to do with it, and has nothing to do with the defeat of the bridge, the place of the explosion is the epicenter from below

[Osha]

The question is: WHERE was it loaded on the territory of Russia?!

[Edward]

⚡52-year-old Makhir Yusubov could have been driving the truck that exploded on the Crimean Bridge. The car owner's uncle.

Throughout September, the truck traveled around the Krasnodar Territory. On the 22nd, she was spotted at the post of Zukerova Balka. I was driving from Rostov to Krasnodar. From there to Krasnoarmeysky, Slavinsky and finally Temryuksky district, where she was caught on cameras five times.

On October 12, she appeared in the Kanevsky district and drove off to Poltava, disappearing from the cameras. From 17:16 to 04:23 I traveled around Armavir. Further - Caucasian, Timoshevsky and Kalininsky. At 06:XNUMX, she was seen in the village of Svetly Put, Temryuk District, and then disappeared for six hours.

Today at five in the morning the car was in the village of Strelka. The distance between the last two points of the route could be covered in half an hour, but the car covered it in six. 

At 5:52 the truck drove onto the bridge, at 6:05 it exploded. Since the day before yesterday, Mahir has not contacted his relatives.

[RED_ICE]

This is what my amateur friends sent me. In the same video, when viewed in slow motion, you can see how what is circled pops up

[RED_ICE]

These guys are analyzing the video, I can’t upload it here

[nordscout]

Again I am forced to quote the words of I.V. Stalin "Every victory and defeat has a name, position and military rank...." So it is with the Crimean Bridge... After all, someone prepared a plan for the defense of the strategic bridge, someone somewhere approved it, someone recommended options and methods for mine action and other protections, someone recommended and supplied technical means of control, someone as part of the State. Commission, accepted all THIS, and reported to the President accompanied by bravura marches and champagne... And it seems that they forgot about the usual four-legged “experts” on explosives (apparently, you can’t spend millions on them).... A preliminary conclusion from what happened: “ indifference" at all levels, the "genetic" lack of personal responsibility for the assigned area of ​​work, impunity and "softness" of criminal legislation for serious state crimes - "resulted" in a national tragedy, an international "slap in the face"... What's next???? ??? Here you have Zelya, the “stoned”, stupid clown - President of Ukraine... Joseph Vissarionovich, and his comrades, are rolling over in their graves......

[nordscout]

Again I am forced to quote the words of I.V. Stalin "Every victory and defeat has a name, position and military rank...." So it is with the Crimean Bridge... After all, someone prepared a plan for the defense of the strategic bridge, someone somewhere approved it, someone recommended options and methods for mine action and other protections, someone recommended and supplied technical means of control, someone as part of the State. Commission, accepted all THIS, and reported to the President accompanied by bravura marches and champagne... And it seems that they forgot about the usual four-legged “experts” on explosives (apparently, you can’t spend millions on them).... A preliminary conclusion from what happened: “ indifference" at all levels, the "genetic" lack of personal responsibility for the assigned area of ​​work, impunity and "softness" of criminal legislation for serious state crimes - "resulted" in a national tragedy, an international "slap in the face"... What's next???? ??? Here you have Zelya, the “stoned”, stupid clown - President of Ukraine... Joseph Vissarionovich and his comrades are rolling over in their graves...

[Dmitry Zadorozhniy]

There are a lot of angry commentators. Here’s a version for you: agricultural holdings are purchasing fertilizers en masse. And so the truck with saltpeter goes from where it needs to, to where it needs to go. And the fact that in one of the bags of saltpeter there suddenly and suddenly turned out to be a saber with a detonator, well, that’s just the little things in life. What if this same saber ended up not in a truck with saltpeter, but in a carriage with this very saltpeter? For those who don’t believe, read what amonal is. And remember the port of Beirut.

[nordscout]

Dear “Dmitriy Zadorozhniy”, they don’t carry saltpeter in trucks across the Crimean Bridge, or rather they shouldn’t have carried it... and it’s not a matter of “malice,” but of elementary malice from the “not giving a damn” all-encompassing, all-destroying and complete impotence of those to whom it was “handed.” “this bridge was for exploitation by the state... One thing that “warms the soul” is that the Black Sea Fleet guarded this strategic facility, as it should be and as taught... And I very much regret that we do not have “figures” of the level of Lavrentiy Pavlovich, who I could very quickly and efficiently “bring to my senses” Russian officials at all levels...

[Conserv71]

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Quote: Conserv71

And so my Baghdad is in one place

Have cryopele?

It's a pity that you didn't understand my metaphorical expression.

[Hariton laptev]

For the fictitious attack of September 11.09.2001, 2, the United States of Hell razed XNUMX countries to the ground. They drove them into the Stone Age. Then you can only ban

[restless]

Not only the states, half the world were hammering these countries, all of NATO grazed there and even dill were noted, because there were no nuclear, chemical, or bacterial weapons there, they are afraid to touch North Korea, and there will be a dictator worse than Saddam Hussein, because there is a vigorous matryona there, and the Libyan Gadaffi was friends with NATO, but there was no bomb, so they let him go, you have to keep your distance from the NATO cannibals, they will eat you and not frown, half the world has already passed or they want us, but through betrayal of our elites, which is happening everywhere, there is a war, and we supply strategic raw materials to the enemies, they make weapons from it, supply it to the Ukrainian fascists, and our soldiers die from it, and someone makes billions because of this, this is pure treason , if during the Great Patriotic War we sold ore, grain, coal, oil to the Romanians or Italians, and they would supply Hitler with tanks, fuel, and airplanes. Why not mobilize the entire State Duma, maybe something would change in the policies of our elites?

[dimbasic]

Krasnodar traffic police officers as the quintessence of Russian reality

[HaByxoDaBHocep]

How do you suggest that the traffic cop visually check a 20-meter truck?

[HaByxoDaBHocep]

Look at the satellite images of the bridge after the explosion, you can clearly see a large black spot on the surface of the road surface, this clearly indicates that the explosion was superficial

[Horn]

Did the terrorists teleport to Budyonnovsk or Dubrovka? We also drove past traffic police posts.

[AVESSALOM]

The FSB needs to be dispersed. The work is absolutely failed. They successfully killed Dugina, now the bridge.. And let’s live: In Ukraine and in the West there are calls to destroy the Crimean Bridge. They are already offering options for this sabotage: bombing from an airplane, sending a truck with TNT to the bridge, sending submariners with explosives to the supports, or even attacking the bridge with a division of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. All this may seem like the ravings of crazy people, but judging by the paranoia of the neighbors, we can expect any provocations from them.

While the object was still in the inkwell, it was given strategic status. The 19-kilometer highway connecting Crimea with mainland Russia must have the highest degree of protection (like nuclear power plants).

Those driving across the bridge, already at the far approaches to it, will be filtered through a thick sieve of security forces. Several special units subordinate to a single headquarters will be responsible for protecting the bridge. The unified security system is closed to him. This is a layer cake, the top of which is already in space, and the bottom is at the bottom of the sea.

Read on WWW.KP.RU: https://www.kp.ru/daily/26831.5/3871553/

[gafovec]

“if you have correctly executed accompanying documents” - you have to be a complete moron, preparing a terrorist attack of this level, and not have correctly executed documents. I AM FAR FROM BLAMING THE DRIVER, he was most likely used in the dark, the guy was just unlucky to get caught in the mix.

[who are you]

The footage of the explosion shows the formation of a large number of sparks on the right side of the bridge. The military comments on these sparks as kinetic destruction of the shell and mechanisms of the rocket upon impact with the high-strength reinforced concrete from which the bridge span is made. In this case, a passenger car moving on the opposite side passes through the explosion cloud, not only is it not thrown off the runway by the shock wave, it does not even change its trajectory, which indicates the absence of a blast wave above the surface of the bridge. The impact of the explosion probably occurred on the bridge beam on the right side, as a result of which the energy of the explosion went up towards the train without affecting the passenger car.

[Alexander Borshchev]

The direct culprits and idlers from the traffic police will not suffer, everything is done through connections. And tens of thousands of people who die in accidents and explosions do not apply to them; they will come up with another reason. They are holding us, and now the President too.

[ivan2022]

Quote: T-73

As I understand it, the answer is broader than the problem. They chew snot without understanding......
If we wake up after the bridge, the price is worthless to us

We are our own country............ back in 1991, nothing. Why are you all clinging to the bridge? What is our price, all the peoples of the whole world saw and understood 30 years ago. Well, now we’ve had enough

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: Free

Can’t we do this or is Ukraine’s infrastructure already divided between the oligarchs and inviolable?

To the point.
Everything is decided in castles on the Rublevo-Uspenskoe highway or in a chalet on the South Coast of France (the southern coast of France).
Money for this serpentarium is more important than the lives of soldiers.

How many of our guys are left in captivity in order to get the oligarch and scumbag Medvedchuk out of there?
What did he do for Russia?
Shit at the exchange negotiations, demanding the release of ZK, and not the People's Militia fighters for stubborn Nazis?

[Volga073]

Shoigu sucks. Send to the sandbox to play.

[bar]

The cargo flow on the highway towards Crimea is large; apparently, it is not physically possible to thoroughly check each truck if there are properly executed accompanying documents. Moreover, if such a command was not received from above.

Why these general phrases about physical ability? Judging by the video from surveillance cameras, there was no such cargo flow. That's right about the "command from above". The bridge was not guarded despite the situation. And yes, it wasn’t the traffic police who should have been doing this.

[Puskarinkis]

A more thorough inspection of transport is possible, but it will sharply reduce the bridge's capacity and does not guarantee a 100% result. Here, rather, it is necessary to create “quick technical response” services, if they do not exist, and transfer them to “constant readiness” to quickly eliminate the consequences and restore traffic. The FSB should be in charge of identifying terrorists. And it’s better for the military, just in case, to destroy all significant transport hubs in the enemy’s front-line zone in order to confuse them even more. And it's better to do it quickly... both! In Ukraine they understand that Russia is not collecting reserves for a parade; those who actively help with weapons and advice also understand this...