India will additionally purchase Su-30MKI aircraft and equip them with extended-range missiles

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India will additionally purchase Su-30MKI aircraft and equip them with extended-range missiles

The Indian Air Force was supposed to have 40 Russian-made Su-30MKI fighters. Now it has been decided that India will additionally purchase the same Su-30MKI aircraft in the amount of 20-25 units and equip them with BrahMos extended-range cruise missiles.

This is reported by the Indian newspaper The Times of India, referring to the commander-in-chief of the country's Air Force, Marshal V. R. Chaudhary.



The new aircraft will receive an upgraded version of BrahMos missiles. If now the new Indian Su-30MKIs (35 of them have already entered the army) are armed with missiles with a maximum range of 290 kilometers, then an improved version of this weapon will appear on board additional combat vehicles, capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 450 kilometers. And according to a source in the Indian newspaper The Print, the maximum range of such missiles is even higher - more than 500 kilometers.

Marshal Chaudhary said that to modernize this weapon are planned at the enterprises of the Indian defense industry.

In total, the Indian Air Force has 272 Su-30MKI fighters. The modernization of all these aircraft is going to start in five years.

The BrahMos missile is a joint product of Russia and India. It is considered the only supersonic cruise missile in existence in the world. It is very difficult to intercept it with existing missile defense systems.
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  1. +11
    7 October 2022 12: 35
    But do we have enough aviation for the NWO that we are going to sell planes to India?
    1. +5
      7 October 2022 12: 43
      Quote: Maxim G
      But do we have enough aviation for the NWO that we are going to sell planes to India?

      If in exchange for 2 million. soldiers of the Indian special forces, then maybe you should agree?
      1. +4
        7 October 2022 12: 46
        No, it's not worth it.
        I agree with the opinion expressed that we need to mobilize the economy, in particular, to remove planes and helicopters from storage, to reequip civilian ones.
        1. 0
          8 October 2022 00: 54

          convert civilian


          What are you going to convert civilian aircraft into? In bombers?)))

          We have enough planes, we have problems with reconnaissance, we don’t see anything further than 40 km from the front, therefore we only hit stationary targets such as barracks or thermal power plants, there’s not a single intelligible video where Haymars would be found, but up to 40-50 km, where the Zala UAV flies from Kalashnikov, yes we can.

          Therefore, there is no need to even put the unsold Su-35s into operation.

          And besides, the Su-30 in the NMD somehow did not show itself very well, the Su-34 as bombers - yes, the Su-35 as a fighter and as a means of destroying various radars - yes, and the Su-30 neither here nor there.
      2. -7
        7 October 2022 12: 47
        How and where will you catch these paramilitary gypsies later? Don't you think that they are there next to Romania, "based on the results of the vote" they will open another state?
      3. +4
        7 October 2022 14: 33
        [quote] If in exchange for 2 million. soldiers of the Indian special forces, then maybe you should agree? [/ Quote
        It’s better in exchange for something that we don’t have or have little, but it’s very necessary, let them set up production at home or buy it somewhere to make a stencil with the inscription geranium 3 or 4 then it’s not difficult.
        1. 0
          8 October 2022 07: 53
          The Su-30MKI is supplied to India in vehicle kits and assembled in India itself. Moreover, the cost of such a vehicle kit is more expensive than the purchase of the same Su-30SM for the VKS. And for India itself, such a "localized" Su-30MKI costs twice as much as just buying a ready-made one.
          By the way, there were rumors a few months ago that the Russian Federation would buy Brahmos missiles from India. And this is correct - they can be used from any standard UKKS or from Bastion, and the plant in India itself is 50/50 owned by the Russian side, but 1 share less than the Indian one.
    2. -2
      7 October 2022 13: 27
      our problem is not in planes, but in pilots - there are not so many of them as it seems ..
      1. 0
        7 October 2022 13: 38
        There are pilots.

        The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information.
        1. -4
          7 October 2022 13: 58
          but how many of them exactly? I don’t remember anyone complaining that the pilots are sitting and not flying because “there are no planes for the NWO” .. But complaints that not all pilots were ready for the NWO, burn out morally or were 500
          1. -1
            7 October 2022 14: 00
            I do not know.
            There are cadets, reserve officers, civilians.
            1. -4
              7 October 2022 14: 17
              and they all need to be taught and trained, after completing the training, the pilots just learn to fly normally and perform combat missions for a few more years, the same story with the storerooms - they need to restore their skills, and to teach civilians in general ... in fact, even if something start doing yesterday, sane pilots will be by the end of the year. It’s cheaper to rely on kamikaze drones and long-range artillery
              1. -1
                7 October 2022 14: 22
                Quote: Barberry25
                and they all need to be taught and trained, after completing the training, the pilots just learn to fly normally and perform combat missions for a few more years, the same story with the storerooms - they need to restore their skills, and to teach civilians in general ... in fact, even if something start doing yesterday, sane pilots will be by the end of the year. It’s cheaper to rely on kamikaze drones and long-range artillery

                In any case, this should be done if there is time, of course.
                Pilots can be sent to the SVO of those who are now in the army, and instead of them, the categories I have listed.
                1. -2
                  7 October 2022 14: 35
                  I’m not saying that it’s impossible, it’s possible, but it’s important to understand the task .. pilots strike to a maximum depth of 40 km .. under this brand, you need to work - increase the production of high-precision, including with television homing, adapt to launches from helicopters more ammunition, more than one LMUR to live, put televisions on Ataka / Whirlwind type birds, hang cornets with optics and most importantly more reconnaissance UAVs and strikers with kamikaze .. a conditional Orlan costs up to 10 million rubles, so a Kamikaze of a similar type will cost the same ..this is the price of 10 hours of fighter flight, no more
              2. 0
                7 October 2022 22: 18
                Will you also transfer personnel with kamikaze drones from one sector of the front to another?
                And we have crews for helicopters, and even with combat experience, in reserve for two five-year plans ahead. Moreover, civilians came up with a story about interruptions and loss of skills after 5 years. In fact, they returned to aviation after 15-year breaks. Nothing is forgotten.
                1. -2
                  9 October 2022 21: 39
                  you can return it, but you need to teach it, even if retraining of mobs within a month is not always considered sufficient, then what to say about pilots
                  1. -1
                    9 October 2022 21: 49
                    First, let's talk about the difficulty of restoring flying skills by the pilots themselves.
                    Secondly, the approach will be differentiated, the pilots who have recently been transferred to the reserve (up to 10 years) will be appointed to the position of crew commanders, the rest will first be used as co-pilots.
                    1. -2
                      9 October 2022 21: 53
                      well, you are a pilot, then tell me how much time you need both aircraft and aircraft hours to return one fighter pilot to the level so that he can conduct effective strike operations to support our troops? Specifically .. type of aircraft, flight hours
                      1. -1
                        9 October 2022 22: 31
                        A month of flights with a load of 12 hours a week is more than enough.
                      2. -2
                        9 October 2022 22: 44
                        those. about 50 flight hours ... let's say for 50 pilots about 1 billion rubles .. + 50 new aircraft .. this is at least another 50 billion rubles ... this is equivalent to 5-000 kamikaze drones. I don't mind that if a certain number of pilots from the reserve are returned and trained for the database, but it’s still better to rely on unmanned systems - you can do a lot of them, quickly enough and without the threat of losing an expensive aircraft and a piece pilot ... I repeat, I don’t mind, but in priority is still UAV
                      3. 0
                        9 October 2022 23: 01
                        UAVs lose by two orders of magnitude in terms of combat load, and by an order of magnitude in terms of speed, that is, mobility. Moreover, UAV operators also suffer losses, as control points are also destroyed. And if we compare the losses to the damage caused, then it is not in favor of the UAV operators. For example, the same bayraktar is operated by at least two operators. Combat load 100 kg. The Ka-52 helicopter also has two pilots. But the combat load (six suspension points) is 2800 kg.
                        That is, to replace one Ka-52 in terms of load, 28 UAVs of the mentioned type and 56 operators are needed.
                        And this despite the fact that UAVs carry ammunition of a relatively small caliber, therefore, in terms of impact power, they cannot completely replace aviation from the word.
                        In addition, some success of the UAV is possible because the air defense was sharpened for some time for large aircraft. But it is clear that this hole will not last long, after which the shock UAVs will turn into trash.
                      4. -2
                        10 October 2022 09: 40
                        the problem is that it’s easier to prepare a UAV operator, it’s easier to hide them, if the UAV itself is lost, the operators are safe, but the loss of a helicopter is the death of the crew in most cases. here a UAV can fly several hundred kilometers per lbs and hit a target, depending on the type of UAV. So it’s joyful to ruin untrained pilots about MANPADS instead of buying even more kamikaze is not the best option
                      5. 0
                        10 October 2022 10: 11
                        Firstly, who told you that it is easier to train a UAV operator? Finding targets through a camera has its own challenges.
                        Secondly, helicopters, like the same Mi-8AMTSH, can operate from the FAB-500 to ATGMs, which they take up to 16. If necessary, these same helicopters can transfer cargo and personnel, thereby increasing the mobility of troops.
                        Thirdly, the problem of the caliber of ammunition used by UAVs has not been removed. The maximum that they are capable of is pinpoint destruction of relatively small targets. It would be nice if this was at least compensated for by massive use, but it’s not here either. In short, a mosquito bite, unpleasant, but not critical.
                        Fourth, who told you that a UAV can fly several hundred kilometers with impunity? It is much easier to shoot down than a helicopter in WWI.
                        Fifth, stop lying, no one talked about college graduates. It was about calling up pilots with combat experience from the reserve. And only a person who is very far from this can call them untrained.
                        Sixth, there is nothing new in these kamikaze drones. In fact, in some way this idea was implemented in the Great Patriotic War by the creation of regiments of night bombers. When the same U-2 (Po-2) with six FAB-50s suspended, gained altitude over its territory at night, then turning off the engine, went to the enemy’s near rear in a planning mode, dropped bombs and returned. A fairly safe occupation, against the backdrop of the work of the IL-2, Pe-2, Tu-2, and quite effective, not so much in terms of power, but in terms of morale.
                        But at the same time, it never occurred to anyone to replace all strike aircraft with regiments of night bombers, they remained auxiliary. What all these kamikaze drones and strike UAVs are, their role, for the reasons indicated above, is only auxiliary.
                        And for that matter, the Caliber missile is also a kamikaze drone. That's just the impact of the warhead thereof is an order of magnitude greater than that of the "Geran". It is enough to look at the results of the strike on the Yavorsky training ground and Belaya Tserkov.
                      6. -2
                        10 October 2022 11: 20
                        it’s easier because many people learn to work in a trench with quadric optics and give results .. + below the health threshold, pilots must be in good health, and the operator can be a nerd with obesity and glasses. About helicopters with FABs, it’s very cool ... to have disposable helicopters with pilots if the enemy has a huge number of MANPADS. About "who told you" - it's called Geranium, which just flies hundreds of kilometers to targets, from the latest results, a flight of 1 km +. About "pilots with combat experience" - most of the experience is bombing from high altitudes, which are now almost never used. About "but during the war, bombs were thrown from high altitude" .. these are not kamikaze drones, this is just already you are lying here and trying to put an owl on the globe. About "Caliber is also a drone" - according to technology, yes, only air defense strikes it more confidently and it costs much more than the same Geraniums.
                      7. -1
                        10 October 2022 11: 51
                        First, don't confuse a quad for looking around corners and working in close tactical depth.
                        Secondly, with proper organization, databases and FABs can be used, but against MANPADS there are already enough funds, obviously, not to save money and put them on helicopters. Yes, and MANPADS do not work at WWI, only if you're lucky. In addition, helicopters can also carry guided weapons of sufficient range in addition to MANPADS. As for mobility, then again, for helicopters it is an order of magnitude higher.
                        Thirdly, "Geran" is in fact a very low-speed cruise missile of small caliber. Speed ​​less than 200 km/h. How many hours does she crawl these same 1000 km? Yes, and it’s enough to remember the good old barrage balloons and this wunderwaffe becomes trash.
                        Fourthly, only pilots can judge the combat experience of pilots, and not any hairdressers or sales managers.
                        And me for Afghanistan and Chechnya, only once using AB. And then the SAB without a parachute for adjustment. But there are more than fifty ATGM launches.
                        Fifth, what the heck? With what fright does a high-speed target hit more confidently with air defense than something creeping up to 200 km / h?
                      8. -2
                        10 October 2022 12: 07
                        1) it’s just easier to learn on wing-type drones than on quadrics - optics can be better installed, the flight is longer and at safe altitudes, and the quadric is less resistant to wind and hangs less in the air, so it’s much easier to train operators than pilots to restore skills., Further, about "with the right organization" - this is a spherical horse in a vacuum. At the moment, helicopters in most cases work from pitch-up-launches of ATs only when breaking through enemy equipment or working on pillboxes .. and for a second we are talking about pilots with experience in this war, and not operations from the times of the Caucasus, so skills will have to be developed. About Geranium, now a facepalm has been made, what difference does it make to you how many hours it will fly a thousand km if the object to strike is stationary? Or will you send a link of helicopters there? Don’t even read nonsense about balloons I will ... The difference is .. Afghanistan and Chechnya are not NVO, these are wars of different levels, and where dushmans had a pair of MANPADS in general for a detachment, there may be a dozen of them + a full-fledged air defense system in the bushes . About "how can air defense not hit small creeping ones" ... but they didn’t tell you that aiming at a target, in principle, depends not only on speed? But, for example, on a thermal signature and EPR?
                      9. -1
                        10 October 2022 18: 06
                        1. Have you ever tried using optics on an aircraft to look for a target? I understand that no, that's why you carry this nonsense.
                        2. You may be a specialist in spherical horses in a vacuum, but in aviation matters you are more than an amateur. Yes, and with the consideration you clearly have problems. After all, they have already chewed it, a helicopter can fire from a pitch-up, and use guided weapons, and transport personnel, and cargo. The UAV performs only a shock function from this and that is miserable.
                        3. The aspect of time in military affairs is very important, it is only couch strategists among shkolota who ignore it, because they have one criterion - I like it.
                        4. Especially for the shkolota, I explain that it was in Afghanistan that the main tactics were developed in the conduct of hostilities over unfriendly territory, as well as work in the conditions of the use of MANPADS by the enemy. And only a teapot can declare the experience of Afghanistan and Chechnya obsolete.
                        5. Air defense can perfectly hit small and slow targets, you were deceived. It’s just that you need to build air defense, and not hope at random.
                      10. -1
                        10 October 2022 18: 35
                        those. there are courses, operators are actively taught, and now it turns out that it’s impossible to see something on the ground through the optics of a UAV ... you apparently compare it with your phone) .. About what a helicopter can and what it can’t ... it’s different, oh what I already pointed out to the expert, an attempt to use a helicopter in its immediate incarnation, which you prescribed here .. namely, using ATGMs and even FABs ends in the loss of an expensive helicopter with an equally expensive crew, but for you, apparently, these are consumables, since you can ruin them regularly on LBS or attempts to arrange "rear raids". About the attempt to tie the time and the "military yoke" you leave it for yourself, here all morning there were missile launches and Geraniums at enemy targets and for some reason no one raised the question of whether the warehouse had moved from one place in those 6 hours that would be fly Geranium or Caliber. About Afghanistan, I remind you that the troops were withdrawn from there in 1989, which means that the youngest helicopter pilot of that period should be at least 55 years old. but in reality, all 60 will be .. ruining pensioners is apparently the best option for their pension not to pay? About the experience of Chechnya, it’s certainly cool - to fight with militants who have several MANPADS and against a regular army with air defense is apparently the same thing. Tell the Armed Forces of Ukraine or the same Saudis who regularly have big problems with the same Shaheeds and for some reason their air defense is very poor at dealing with them .. In general, you will suggest, by the way, to fight drones for 1 km of airships hang .. the very thing
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                      19. 0
                        10 October 2022 10: 19
                        What other untrained pilots who are going to ruin?
                      20. -2
                        10 October 2022 19: 29
                        Do you have a lot of trained Mi-24 pilots in your stash?
                      21. +1
                        11 October 2022 05: 47
                        1. There are reserves who flew them, there are cadets who study with them, maybe there are civilian pilots who used to serve in the Air Force and flew this helicopter.

                        2. You can retrain the above categories if they did not fly the Mi-24.

                        3. Here they originally wrote about the Mi-8 in the version replacing the combat helicopter.
                        And this is a very common car.
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                      23. 0
                        11 October 2022 17: 09
                        1. Take what? Following your logic in the Second World War, pilots were supposed to fly the entire war on donkeys and seagulls, without retraining for new Soviet or American, British aircraft.
                        And then they gave you one of the options. Maybe you can take on the Mi-24 and take people from the reserve.

                        2. They tell you every day you need to install ATGMs and launch equipment, "Vitebsk", etc., and not buy a drone with a 50 kg charge on board.
                      24. -1
                        11 October 2022 18: 26
                        and in 1812 there were no pilots at all .. stop trying to pull an owl on a globe trying to give inadequate examples. about "pilots had to fly" - remind me exactly how much the pilot training course was during the Second World War and how long they lived.

                        2. "which day they tell you" .... i.e. you need to plant hundreds of millions to get, in theory, a machine that can strike at LBS ... and yes. "do not buy a drone with 50 kg" - these drones are now actively hitting targets throughout Ukraine, i.e. they do what a helicopter pilot cannot even dream of in a drunken stupor. Therefore, if there is a choice, where to spend 20-30 billion rubles: on helicopters that will shoot at LBS from a pitch-up or purchase several thousand UAVs that will close the issue of reconnaissance, target designation artillery and strikes, it is better to spend this money on UAVs, since in the current situation it is better to have these UAVs that CAN work at full depth than to have helicopters that CANNOT be sent further than LBS anyway.
                      25. -1
                        12 October 2022 09: 23
                        It is you who pull the owl on the globe, constantly misinterpreting other people's words.
                        Firstly, this car is not in theory, but has been in series for a long time. Mi-8AMTSh is called.

                        Secondly. We just have very big problems with the front line. And this machine is perfect for eliminating breakthroughs in armored vehicles, where UAVs are useless from the word at all, due to extremely low mobility and reaction.
                        And the fact that helicopter pilots have to work with NAR from a pitch-up is not because they don’t know how to do it differently, or it’s impossible, it’s just that there aren’t enough ATGMs, so they save. Combat helicopters go on a flight with two - four, instead of 12-16.
                        But for tactical depth, cruise missiles are still better.
                      26. -1
                        12 October 2022 12: 34
                        1) how many Terminators do we have in service?
                        2) If you already take an attack helicopter, then it makes sense to take the Mi-28/35 / Ka-52, which will be able to use the full potential of weapons, and in this case the AMTSh loses to them.
                        3) it is very ironic to read about "UAVs are extremely low mobile" i.e. It is impossible to lift an UAV like Eleron or Orlan into the air and correct artillery fire from it, but is it quick and easy to drive a transport helicopter with missiles?

                        Your problem is that you are trying to give birth to any idea, but in order to justify your innocence, what to do even worse ... I will repeat for the last time: we are operating within the framework of limited resources and now if you ask those who are on the LBS, what do you need drones or helicopters - they will tell you to give us more UAVs for reconnaissance and target designation, because thanks to them you can effectively use artillery. The topic is closed, you can continue to rush about with the idea of ​​​​purchasing helicopters instead of UAVs.
                      27. -1
                        12 October 2022 14: 52
                        1) how many Terminators do we have in service?


                        They enter the troops, the car is in the series. And they are clearly not enough.

                        2) If you already take an attack helicopter, then it makes sense to take the Mi-28/35

                        We are talking about the fact that there are not enough helicopters of all types. And the universal machine is the optimal solution.
                        You simply do not understand the topic due to lack of knowledge and experience.

                        3) it is very ironic to read about "UAVs are extremely low mobile" i.e. It is impossible to lift an UAV like Eleron or Orlan into the air and correct artillery fire from it, but is it quick and easy to drive a transport helicopter with missiles?
                      28. -1
                        12 October 2022 15: 01
                        well, yes, I already wrote about the fact that you are a know-it-all, only the experience of the SVO just relies on the more active use of UAVs in conjunction with artillery and they are the main breakthroughs, and if we have extra money, then it’s better to close the problem with UAVs than to get a couple of dozen helicopters that will still have to be used from a pitch-up. for the know-it-alls: if you have normal interaction with artillery and have a UAV for reconnaissance and adjustment, you will not have a breakthrough and you will not need to use helicopters from the word at all, not to mention that the most effective vehicles are the mi-28 / ka-52, which use LMURs, which are suddenly initially guided by drones and only after that the helicopters launch to hit the identified targets - we have a wild shortage of UAVs, first solve this problem, and then already Mriya about 100500 pilots from the reserve to put on helicopters
                      29. +1
                        12 October 2022 17: 17
                        Quote: Barberry25
                        for the know-it-alls: if you have normal interaction with artillery and have UAVs for reconnaissance and adjustment, you will not have a breakthrough and you will not need to use helicopters from the word at all,

                        MLRS is also not necessary?
                      30. 0
                        12 October 2022 18: 35
                        RSZO is rocket artillery and it also needs zu from UAVs,
                      31. -1
                        12 October 2022 19: 42
                        You first clarify the prices of UAVs, you are our economical one.
                        At the same time, answer how you will transport cargo and personnel on the UAV, how you will take out the wounded.
                      32. -1
                        12 October 2022 08: 50
                        1) it's one thing when a pilot flew on it and he can restore skills, and even your "colleague" wrote that minimum a month is required and 50 hours of flying so that they can perform at least some combat missions, but if you retrain it, it will take many times more time, since the specifics are somewhat different ..


                        Why are you again twisting other people's words. It was said:
                        Months of flights with a load of 12 hours per week more than enough.


                        This means restoring your skills to the fullest as a helicopter commander. Or you can't do it any other way?
                      33. -2
                        12 October 2022 12: 34
                        and when "recovering skills" means becoming an experienced combat pilot? you will lose half of the pilots with cars until they gain their experience
                      34. 0
                        12 October 2022 19: 26
                        For the slow-witted: we are talking about restoring the skills (although what is there to restore, everything is remembered and not forgotten) of combat and experienced pilots. Is it clear now?
                      35. -1
                        12 October 2022 08: 55
                        But there is no point in arranging a general call for pilots - they need to launch helicopters and planes, and this is an expensive pleasure. They need a sufficient number of airfield service personnel, and this also costs money, so the priority is just better to do reconnaissance, strike UAVs, kamikazes are in high demand as part of this campaign, so it’s better to buy a couple of thousand UAVs than spend a couple of tens of billion rubles on helicopters for storage ... the result will be higher


                        That is, in your opinion, it is advisable to call up infantry from the reserve, but it is not necessary to de-energize them with air support. Cannibalistic logic.
                      36. -1
                        12 October 2022 12: 36
                        first of all, the infantry needs to be provided with normal reconnaissance and interaction with artillery, you won’t hang a turntable over each support, and instead of one turntable at a cost of several hundred million rubles, you can purchase up to 1 drones of various types, which, in principle, will close at the price of 000-2 helicopters a question of reconnaissance of the near edge of the LBS ... this is many times more useful than 3 helicopters with pilots who "restored their skills"
                      37. -1
                        12 October 2022 19: 39
                        Wow, how it all started. lol
                        I'm not talking about how you are going to transport UAV personnel, cargo. How to repel the attacks of armored vehicles.
                        You are clearly floating in prices.
                        Here, for example, is not the most sophisticated UAV Bayraktar TB2, which does not lift more than 100 kg of combat load.
                        Unit cost: ≈ 69 million USD for a complex consisting of 6 drones, 2 control stations, 200 units. ammunition and auxiliary equipment.

                        While the Mi-17 is sold abroad at a price of ≈ 20 million USD.
                        So how, buy 1000 UAVs? lol
                      38. -1
                        12 October 2022 21: 43
                        1) you won’t believe it, but 99% of cargo and personnel are transported by ground vehicles.
                        2) Repulsing enemy armored vehicles is the task of reinforcements and artillery / aviation, all forces and means are involved, but without reconnaissance in the form of a UAV, it is difficult. About prices .. for know-it-alls ... we think .. let's say we decide to land 10 civil aviation pilots at 10 mi-17. it’s not the drummers anymore, but the transport workers .. 10 * 20 * 60 = 12 billion rubles, well, let’s round up to 10 since we’re buying for ourselves. a UAV of the Eleron-750 type costs about 3-5 million rubles, the 6st costs about 421 million, Orlan-10 costs about 10 million rubles .. That is. we have a choice: take 12 helicopters or 10 quadrocopters, 1 Ailerons, 300 Halls and 300 Orlans .. and there will still be 300 million left for training operators and spare parts .. So, as I already wrote, there is no need to try to pull the owl on the globe and pull it up facts for your theory
                      39. 0
                        13 October 2022 10: 59
                        1) you won’t believe it, but 99% of cargo and personnel are transported by ground vehicles.

                        Even as I believe. After the "effective managers" "optimized" army aviation in the Russian Federation, there is no need to talk about any kind of troop mobility.
                        Recently, when it was too hot, they tried to transfer troops by helicopters. Having collected all available vehicles, including heavy Mi-26s. But nothing good came of it, too few helicopters. In addition, such airmobile formations as, for example, 11 ODShBr, have been disbanded.

                        Reflection of enemy armored vehicles is the task of reinforcements and artillery / aviation, all forces and means are involved, but without reconnaissance in the form of UAVs, this is difficult


                        Blah blah blah, that's the meaning of your words. But there is one benefit in them, you completely gave yourself away as a person far from the army. lol
                        For any serviceman knows that when repelling an attack, the enemy has already revealed himself. Because those who are at the forefront, intelligence is no longer needed, the enemy is here, he is advancing on your positions.
                        And for the destruction of enemy armored vehicles at the forefront, the leading role is played by ATGM systems, both ground and air. Air (helicopters) are more preferable, due to high mobility.

                        About prices .. for know-it-alls ... we consider .. let's say we decide to put 10 civil aviation pilots on 10 mi-17s. It’s not the strikers anymore, but the transport workers.


                        Once again, stop misinterpreting other people's words. There was no talk of civilian pilots, we have more than enough experienced military men in reserve. Mi-17 is not a pure transport, it is a multi-purpose vehicle. Even those who go to civilian life differ simply in that there are no weapons, they simply have not been mounted, but all the nodes for this are present.

                        10 * 20 * 60 = 12 billion rubles, well, we’ll round up to 10 since we’re buying for ourselves. And now we consider that the Mavik quadrocopter with a heatpack, taking into account the market, costs 750 thousand, the Eleron-3 UAV costs about 5-6 million rubles, the 421st costs about 10 million, Orlan-10 costs about 12 million rubles .. That is. we have a choice: take 10 helicopters or 1 quadrocopters, 300 ailerons, 300 halls and 300 eagles .. and there will still be 300 million left for training operators and spare parts ..


                        That is, you propose to leave the ground troops without means of mobility, and instead put an unthinkable number of reconnaissance and surveillance UAVs?
                        Well, you are a strategist. lol

                        The fact that you are a specialist exclusively in globes and owls is already clear.
                        And the facts are that in the USSR there were about 7200 helicopters, not counting the Warsaw Pact, the US Army today has 5500 helicopters, not counting all of NATO.
                        The Russian Federation has only 1500 helicopters. That's all the theory. request
                      40. -1
                        13 October 2022 11: 11
                        an attempt to blur the problem was counted - the transfer of troops was the reason for the lack of UAVs and the low density of troops per LBS in general, and not just that "we have few helicopters", so by.

                        I won’t even comment on the nonsense about “the enemy discovered himself,” just like about “the enemy is being destroyed by birds” .. THE ENEMY IS DESTROYED BY ARTILLERY, and if you tried to at least follow the reports, you would notice it.

                        "without means of mobility" - I explained to you how much 10 helicopters cost and how many UAVs can be bought on them, that this amount is enough to close the entire LBS completely, and you rush about with your stupid idea of ​​\u10b\u2b"mobility" like with a decommissioned hull .. You attach a couple of helicopters to each supporter "for mobility"? So don’t try to blur the topic ... 000 helicopters won’t replace XNUMX drones in terms of efficiency from the word in general .. With which I’ll finish .. you can continue to play on "holy helicopters", don’t splatter the main monitor)
                      41. +1
                        13 October 2022 11: 46
                        an attempt to blur the problem was counted - the transfer of troops was the reason for the lack of UAVs and the low density of troops per LBS in general, and not just that "we have few helicopters", so by.


                        Is it news to you that the low density of troops is compensated by the presence of highly mobile reserves? Well, it happens, with specialists in globes and owls. lol
                        And there are two ways out, either to increase the number of troops, or their quality.
                        You, of course, advocate the first option.

                        I won’t even comment on the nonsense about “the enemy discovered himself,” as well as about “the enemy is being destroyed by birds.”

                        And do not try, you do not understand military affairs, because it seems to you nonsense.

                        THE ENEMY IS DESTROYED BY ARTILLERY and if you tried to at least follow the reports, you would notice it.


                        Even as I noticed, only unlike you, I understand that it’s bad in the army with ATGMs, which is why they returned to artillery.

                        "without means of mobility" - I explained to you how much 10 helicopters cost and how many UAVs can be bought on them, that this amount is enough to close the entire LBS completely, and you rush about with your stupid idea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXb"mobility" like a decommissioned hull ..


                        But does such a simple idea - the less mobile troops, the more they are required - not reach the mind of a specialist in globes and owls?

                        Will you attach a couple of helicopters to each supporter "for mobility"?

                        There is enough on the Internet about airmobile troops, read. This will at least save you some stupid questions.

                        So don’t try to blur the topic ... 10 helicopters won’t replace 2 drones in terms of efficiency from the word in general .. With which I’ll finish .. you can continue to play on "holy helicopters", don’t splatter the main monitor)


                        Have you begun to slander and misrepresent again?
                        However, it is not surprising, slander, this is your everything.
                        It is you who rush about with the idea of ​​supplying only UAVs to the army instead of helicopters.
                        Poke your nose into your own words?
                        Or remind me how the conversation started? Let me remind you that we were talking about the need to remove the military helicopters available there from storage, to mobilize civilian dual-purpose vehicles.
                        After that, you rushed in and started talking nonsense about the lack of pilots.
                        And, according to your statement:
                        and they all need to be taught and prepared, after completion training pilots for a few more years just learn to fly normally and perform combat missions,

                        In the topic of training flight crews, you are an absolute zero.
                        It’s necessary to think of this before, pilots are being trained in training. lol

                        And yet, try to respect at least a little grammar and punctuation. I understand errors and typos are inevitable. But you just have a blatant lack of respect for spelling.
            2. -2
              7 October 2022 15: 14
              Civilians, which are the "aircraft operators" - watermelons and Boeings? Well, it's the same as taking people or computer players from the street .. Military aviation is still not a robot to control and feel flight attendants ..
              1. +1
                7 October 2022 16: 08
                Mi-8 pilots, for example.
                Quote: Dikson
                Civilians, which are the "aircraft operators" - watermelons and Boeings? Well, it's the same as taking people or computer players from the street .. Military aviation is still not a robot to control and feel flight attendants ..
                1. +2
                  7 October 2022 22: 33
                  We have the most military pilots who flew the Mi-8.
                  1. +2
                    8 October 2022 03: 59
                    Pay attention to how many people are against increasing the amount of equipment with modern weapons on board, people from civilians, reserves, cadets.

                    But not against infantry with ammunition bought at their own expense and an old AK.

                    Says a lot.
                    1. -1
                      8 October 2022 09: 17
                      This suggests that there are a lot of ukrov, officials and simply, to put it mildly, narrow-minded.
                      Eh, in vain they removed the flag of the country on the profile, although this can be bypassed.
                2. 0
                  8 October 2022 09: 25
                  About helicopter pilots - I agree .. but I thought you were writing about pilots of fighters and attack aircraft .. - after all, you can’t transplant these from a civilian side ..
                  1. 0
                    8 October 2022 09: 42
                    AWACS, RTR, PLO based on civilian aircraft.
              2. 0
                8 October 2022 09: 21
                Civilians, which are the "aircraft operators" - watermelons and Boeings? Well, it's like taking people or computer players from the street.
                I'm afraid that computer players will have a decent head start. For they are at least in theory familiar with the equipment, and have a good idea about the tactics of air combat.
            3. +1
              8 October 2022 00: 55
              I do not know.
              There are cadets, reserve officers, civilians.


              Settle down!!! What cadets, what storekeepers and civilians?! Do you want to bury planes and people ahead of time?!
      2. -1
        7 October 2022 14: 10
        but are there enough aircraft, PKI (blocks, components ...) ????
    3. -1
      7 October 2022 14: 09
      The article does not say that India will buy aircraft from Russia. The HAL Corporation produces Su-30MKI aircraft. The question is who will supply the assembly kits to the Indians?
      1. +1
        7 October 2022 14: 16
        There is no one but Russia.
        Quote: Invoce
        The article does not say that India will buy aircraft from Russia. The HAL Corporation produces Su-30MKI aircraft. The question is who will supply the assembly kits to the Indians
      2. +1
        8 October 2022 00: 56
        The article does not say that India will buy aircraft from Russia. The HAL Corporation produces Su-30MKI aircraft. The question is who will supply the assembly kits to the Indians?


        Well, Belarus, apparently))).

        E- my, well, what other country besides Russia can supply units for the assembly of the Su-30 ?!
    4. +3
      7 October 2022 16: 55
      Without the export of weapons, the development of weapons for themselves will stop.
      Manufacturers need this money.
      1. +1
        7 October 2022 22: 36
        The state should give money to producers.
        And the oligarchs need to be shaken.
        1. -1
          8 October 2022 01: 04
          The state should give money to producers.
          And the oligarchs need to be shaken.


          Stop spouting nonsense!!!

          Who are you going to shake?! The budget of the Moscow Region for a year under 60 billion dollars a year is more than that of all the oligarchs combined. Try to realize what kind of amounts are spent on MO ANNUALLY!!!

          Export is additional funds for the military-industrial complex and for the state !!! Without export, the Su-35 will cost not 70 million dollars for the Aerospace Forces, but all 140 !!!

          And without India, the SA and Qatar, today we would have neither the Su-30/34/35 nor the T-72B3 / T90 nor the Shells nor a bunch of other systems, since all these enterprises would simply have collapsed in the 90s without orders !! !

          Moreover, the country was brought to poverty by the political and economic system that was from 1917 to 1991 under the USSR without oligarchs.
          1. +1
            8 October 2022 03: 48
            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

            Moreover, the country was brought to poverty by the political and economic system that was from 1917 to 1991 under the USSR without oligarchs.

            The damned Lenin reached out to the NWO, through the centuries from the Mausoleum ....
            1. 0
              8 October 2022 11: 30
              The damned Lenin reached out to the NWO, through the centuries from the Mausoleum ....


              He didn’t reach the NWO, but he destroyed the country and, moreover, he also planted a bomb under Russia itself in the form of a declaration of the right to withdraw the union republics from the USSR.

              By the end of the 80s, the USSR could not feed itself, and there is nothing to say about some household things.
              1. 0
                8 October 2022 13: 54
                And he also created Ukrainians. fool

                The text of your comment is too short and in the opinion of the site administration does not carry useful information.
          2. 0
            8 October 2022 08: 06
            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
            Without export, the Su-35 will cost not 70 million dollars for the Aerospace Forces, but all 140 !!!

            In fact, for the Moscow Region, the cost of one Su-35 is about 35 million dollars. (to SVO - exactly). Even the cost of one Su-57 officially (but this is surprising) is 37 million dollars. Of course, this is the cost of only the aircraft, without a repair kit, including spare engines, equipment for maintenance and operation, a set of weapons (rockets, shells, bombs, heat traps), simulators and the cost of retraining a pilot. The export price of the Su-35 in its entire configuration and with all options and taking into account the export duty is about 100 million dollars.
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            2. 0
              8 October 2022 11: 31
              In fact, for the Moscow Region, the cost of one Su-35 is about 35 million dollars. (up to SVO - exactly).


              How do you confirm?
              1. 0
                8 October 2022 12: 24
                This is open data, it has been published more than once on various resources, incl. and on VO. The figure is at the rate before the start of the NWO. These figures have been discussed more than once on the forums of our site, and even the published data on the purchase price of the Su-57 (37 million dollars at the exchange rate at the time of the conclusion of the contract) were discussed almost all over the world. Too low price.
                Apparently, due to such a low appointed MO, prices, in Komsomolsk they really cannot establish the production of this aircraft.
                1. 0
                  8 October 2022 13: 54
                  Even if the price of the Su-35 for the Russian Aerospace Forces is really 37 million dollars, this is 2 billion rubles, which is far from small.

                  This cost is equal to 500 apartments in the regional center of Russia. Roughly one residential building per 500 inhabitants or a village of 250 modern cottages.

                  And if there were no export, this plane might not appear at all, and if it did, it would cost much more, since export, whatever one may say, covers part of the costs of enterprises and the price of export aircraft is much higher.

                  All this is well understood in the United States, unlike many VO readers, and therefore they are building a bunch of obstacles to the export of our weapons.
                  1. 0
                    8 October 2022 14: 31
                    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                    And if there weren’t exports, this plane might not appear at all,

                    So it was created as an export product, the Ministry of Defense was not going to buy it (Su-35) - they were waiting for the Su-57. But since he was delayed, it was decided to purchase a certain number of Su-35S.
                    But the article is talking about the Su-30MKI, which was created by order of India, and which India has 2+ times more than the Su-30SM from the Russian Federation. Now they are buying a few dozen more (in car kits - for their own assembly).
                    The export of military products is important for the state not only as an opportunity to earn money and cover development costs, but also as an opportunity to evenly load defense enterprises, when the state defense order for these products from the Ministry of Defense is no longer provided.
                    Now the situation is somewhat different - the Ministry of Defense needs to make up for losses in combat aviation as quickly as possible. But it is machine kits that are delivered to India - slipways at factories will not deal with this order. Yes, and we lost a little Su-30SM in this conflict. But the losses of the Su-34 and Su-35 (which are much more actively used) must be replenished as soon as possible. In general, it is necessary to increase the number of combat aviation. Both shock and fighter.
                    And it would be nice to resume the production of Su-25 attack aircraft. Perhaps in the guise of an updated Su-39. There is no substitute for such battlefield aircraft, and the old sides cannot be extended indefinitely.
    5. +1
      7 October 2022 22: 14
      And what, are there prerequisites for the fact that there is not enough aviation? According to my calculations, as many aircraft have been lost this year as will be produced. Moreover, mostly the old ones, with an exhausted resource, are lost, and the newest ones are being produced. We can produce more, but there are no orders.
      1. -1
        7 October 2022 22: 35
        There is. There were few helicopters and planes initially.
        1. +1
          8 October 2022 05: 08
          Few? Then why ... they are not ordered anymore? The plant in Kazan, after the Pentagon refused to buy helicopters from them for the Middle East, fired some of the specialists and switched to a 4-day work week with a corresponding reduction in wages for the rest. The plant in Novosibirsk was faced with the reluctance of the Moscow Region to order the Su-34 and also had to fire part of the staff and cut salaries. And what is a cut in wages: it is automatically that all good specialists are absorbed by businessmen, where they pay more. The same with the Su-30, the Defense Ministry does not want to buy it, it takes the Su-35, and these are completely different Su-30 plants in the city of Irkutsk, Su-35 in Komsomolsk-on-Amur. If there is no export, half of Russia's aircraft factories will close tomorrow.
          1. +2
            8 October 2022 06: 08
            Quote: Sergey3
            Few?

            But you don’t see that air strikes are delivered in a limited way. And they work in small groups.

            Where was the aviation when the Armed Forces of Ukraine were advancing in the Kharkov and Kherson directions.
            Defeat armored vehicles, artillery, MLRS
            and the offensive will suffocate.

            You wrote about three manufacturing plants for three aircraft based on the Su-27.

            The question is, why do we need three types? It is impossible to produce a single-seat Su-35 and a two-seat Su-30, and not to produce a Su-34 with a miracle armored cockpit and a toilet by re-profiling the plant.
            How much money does this cabin cost and why is it needed?

            Why 3 combat helicopters, and not one?

            And in light of the fact that what is needed now is not an armored aircraft, but an aircraft with equipment and weapons to hit targets outside the coverage area of ​​​​ZA and MANPADS, why not replenish the Air Force with cheap, including in operation and easy to pilot, the Yak-130.
            This is a question, by the way, about cadet pilots and storekeepers.
            And we buy kamikaze drones, shock drones with a ridiculous load, low-speed, not resistant to damage, not able to fly in WWI.

            This is only for fighters and combat helicopters.
            And if you walk through the AWACS, RTR, PLO aircraft? Where are they?
            1. 0
              8 October 2022 09: 33
              It is impossible to produce a single-seat Su-35 and a two-seat Su-30, and not to produce a Su-34 with a miracle armored cockpit and a toilet by redesigning the plant.
              Do you propose to use Tu-34m22 and Tu-3 instead of Su-160? They are just like that for nothing, and that's why we have so many of them that there is nowhere to put them?
              1. 0
                8 October 2022 10: 24
                [quote = Maxim G] You cannot produce a single-seat Su-35 and a two-seat Su-30, and do not produce a Su-34 with a miracle armored cockpit and a toilet by repurposing the plant. [/ Quote]
                Where in this text did you see such a proposal?
                [quote = Rustic] Do you propose using the Tu-34m22 and Tu-3 instead of the Su-160? They are just like that for nothing, and that's why we have so many of them that there is nowhere to put them?

                [quote] What do we have Su-30MKI? Or we have a lot of pilots who know Hindu, in order to read the readings of aircraft instruments that will later be produced for India. [/quote]

                And what do they produce with us, along with devices?
                1. 0
                  8 October 2022 11: 39
                  What do you think, are car kits delivered to Indians with Russian-language localization? I'll give you a hint. Su-30MKI is the same as Su-30SM. By the way, the Su-30MKK and Su-30MK and Su-35 are a different line, without PGO and made in Komsomolsk. Su-34 is a completely different topic. This is a bomber with fighter functions. Any Su-30 will not replace it in any way. And those replacement options that I indicated ... Well, they don’t fit either. Su-34 is generally a very successful aircraft. It can equally (albeit not in the best way) replace the Su-30, Su-24 and Tu-22. It's more like the Su-30mk2 is superfluous in the lineup. But the Chinese invested in it, why not? They got the 35th. and we also have this development at their expense.
                  1. 0
                    9 October 2022 10: 32
                    Quote from Rustic
                    Well, they don't fit either. Su-34 is generally a very successful aircraft. It can equally (albeit not in the best way) replace the Su-30, Su-24 and Tu-22.

                    Which of the Su-30s, Su-24s and Tu-22Ms has an armored cockpit?
                    What is the combat radius of Tu-22M and Su-34?
      2. 0
        8 October 2022 11: 33
        The planes lost are not old and they have not worked out their resource, these are the Su-30, Su-34 and Su-35.

        There are orders for them and their production is ongoing, only recently 3 Su-35s were delivered to the troops.
    6. 0
      8 October 2022 09: 16
      But do we have enough aviation for the NWO that we are going to sell planes to India?
      And what do we have Su-30MKI? Or we have a lot of pilots who know Hindu, in order to read the readings of aircraft instruments that will later be produced for India.
  2. +4
    7 October 2022 12: 39
    So this is how India condemns us for NMD, according to Blinkin. For Ukraine, we have enough aviation, the problem is with the increased air defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But we have a magical Geranka. Very timely by the way.
    1. -6
      7 October 2022 12: 47
      That's where they get the air defense of the ground forces, the country? Konashenkov struck everyone back in March, they did not receive new air defense from partners, portable air defense systems do not count. It seems that we do not have aviation (except for helicopters and ground attack) in the required quantity or the resource is running out, hence we cannot provide a no-fly zone.
      1. +2
        7 October 2022 13: 02
        For Konoshenkov, it’s the same as destroying a launcher, or a command post, or some kind of radar. Division, there are no other concepts. the target is difficult, they launch two missiles.
        1. -1
          7 October 2022 13: 05
          It is striking when citizen konashenkov strikes artillery firing positions in his reports. He does not even realize that the artillery firing position can either be destroyed or suppressed ... but to hit it somewhere to shoot
          1. +1
            7 October 2022 13: 19
            What reports from the field, so he voices.
            1. -2
              7 October 2022 13: 23
              What does it mean, what reports from the field, then he voices? Is he just a talking mouth that knows all the letters? Then, and the girl can carry a blizzard in his place and a whole general is not needed here.
              1. +4
                7 October 2022 13: 41
                What department does Konoshenkov head? I have no questions for him, what paper was given that he reads out. He himself at one time carried reports (of course not from the Moscow Region) in the mornings about the work of fishing fleets. with Konoshenkov. Nothing has changed. Where most of the excess is added in hunting, fishing and war.
              2. +1
                8 October 2022 09: 36
                Then, and the girl can carry a blizzard in his place and a whole general is not needed here.
                Yes, a girl can. But then where to put the whole general? Not in the trenches to the front? He did not serve in the army all this time ..
      2. +4
        7 October 2022 13: 13
        Quote: Vladimir M
        That's where they get the air defense of the ground forces, the country?

        Restored with the help of Western sponsors. And even more than 100% of what was available at the beginning of the NWO.
        Western radar.
        It is difficult to destroy again - they receive target designation from NATO AWACS aircraft, and turn on their radars for a short time to launch missiles.
        It requires real-time satellite target designation and hordes of drones.
        There is work to do.
      3. +5
        7 October 2022 13: 19
        That's where they get the air defense of the ground forces, the country?

        And from the field here they report that purposeful work to suppress air defense has never been carried out particularly.
        But we have a magical Geranium

        Well, let's say it appeared. But they would still be used systematically for the same fight against air defense and not just shoot as it was with the Kallibrs, which is not a fact of what is being done.
      4. -1
        7 October 2022 13: 59
        That's where they get the air defense of the ground forces, the country?

        Weird question.
        Konashenkov amazed everyone back in March

        Will there be evidence? Is there a link?
        , did not receive new air defense from partners

        received
        https://donbasstoday.ru/podrobnyj-spisok-vooruzheniya-peredavaemyh-ukraine
    2. +4
      7 October 2022 12: 47
      Quote: tralflot1832
      But we have a magical Geranium. Very timely, by the way.

      Thank you Persians hi - Shipped on time...
    3. -2
      7 October 2022 14: 20
      Quote: tralflot1832
      But we have a magical Geranium. Very timely, by the way.

      Still Nettle and Yasenets (burning bush.) What would be burning, it would be more painful ...
  3. +2
    7 October 2022 12: 45
    India will buy additional

    That's when the grandmas fall into the account, then you can talk. We all get along with Old Man the title of the Multi-Vector, so these are sitting on the vector and chasing the vector ...
  4. Two
    -1
    7 October 2022 13: 06
    hi And where is our part of the Bramos? Joint development!
    1. 0
      7 October 2022 14: 05
      rockets for them, money for us. Probably so
    2. +1
      7 October 2022 16: 57
      Our part is Onyx, we actually share our technologies.
    3. +1
      8 October 2022 09: 40
      And where is our part of the Bramos? Joint development!
      You will not believe. Our inmates in the Moscow Region do not need bramos. They are better off with money.
  5. +2
    7 October 2022 13: 13
    Well done Indians, this VKS will not "spread" in any way in order to modernize the Su-30SM for anti-ship Onyxes and aviation Calibers.
    1. -1
      7 October 2022 13: 39
      maybe because the Indians have 200 Su30s and they can make a normal salvo from them, but we have how many dozens of them, which is why we only made sea Onyxes for ourselves. but this is not accurate
      1. +1
        7 October 2022 16: 04
        Before the special operation, the Russian Aerospace Forces had ten squadrons (120 units) of Su-30s and another two dozen in naval aviation.
        The salvo is powerful enough.
        1. -1
          7 October 2022 22: 34
          It remains only to count the pilots capable of firing volleys.
          I'm sure the paperwork matches.
          It just wouldn’t work as a uniform for mobilizants.
  6. +2
    7 October 2022 14: 04
    The news is just great, an additional order for the manufacturer's factory, it's always very good
  7. +3
    7 October 2022 14: 07
    It is considered the only supersonic cruise missile in existence in the world.


    Well, how can you write such a thing, huh?
    And after all, he didn’t even subscribe, the author of this pearl !!!

    There is at least someone in the site administration who should not allow frank bungling to be published. Well, after all, not the slightest idea about the existing and existing missile systems, but all the same there - scribble an article and embed it on the site. Well, at least a little, at least on Wikipedia, you can study the topic before stating this: "The only one ...!!!"
    Ugh!

    Teach materiel
    1. 0
      8 October 2022 09: 44
      Well, at least a little, at least on Wikipedia, you can study the topic before stating this: "The only one ...!!!"
      Yes, the author has already seen out of habit about having no analogues attributed. professional distortion. You can’t ascribe it, so it seems that the article is somehow incomplete.
  8. 0
    7 October 2022 14: 10
    Great news, I wish the new aircraft that the number of takeoffs is equal to the number of landings soldier
  9. 0
    7 October 2022 22: 31
    India is still that huckster. Today I take, tomorrow I do not want. And it's been that way for ten years.
  10. 0
    8 October 2022 01: 08
    And where is our front-line aviation? This is a crime.
  11. +2
    8 October 2022 02: 02
    It's cool now to read the comments on the Military Review. And where did we get them to the border, but we are super-duper. BUT? Here is a question for those who have brains - was it really not clear that for a successful NVO against Ukraine it was necessary to gather at least 500 thousand fighters. And do not let Ukrainians carry out mobelization. Was it not clear? And when the Ukrainians were mobilizing, it was better to sit down on them than to think, what will happen if the Ukrainians break through your defense, saturated with artillery, but which has practically no guards, that is, infantry? There is no worse enemy than jingoistic patriots.

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