Ambassador of Ukraine in London: Iranian drones have become dangerous for the Armed Forces of Ukraine

Iranian drones became very dangerous for the Armed Forces. But the Ukrainian military began to "search for an antidote" against this new weapons, which was at the disposal of the Russian army.

Ukrainian Ambassador to London Vadym Prystaiko stated this in an interview with the British TV channel Sky News.

But at the moment, the strategic objects of the Kyiv security forces are practically defenseless against such equipment. Basically, the allied forces began to use them to strike at headquarters and other important targets throughout almost the entire territory of Ukraine.

Of particular concern to the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is the use by the Russians of unusual tactics, in which objects are attacked by a swarm of drones.

For the first time, such a method of attack was used by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in Bila Tserkva (Kyiv region), where the headquarters of the Ukrainian Foreign Legion is located, that is, the center that controls foreign mercenaries fighting on the side of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. He distributes them throughout the theater of operations. Six Iranian-made Shahed-136 kamikaze drones took part in the attack.

The fact of the attack was confirmed by the Kyiv Governor Alexei Kuleba. For Kyiv, the blow to that part of Ukraine, which the Russian military has practically ceased to "disturb", was an unpleasant surprise.

It's kind drones, although it has relatively large dimensions and the ability to carry a significant payload, it is notable for its low cost. Shahed-136 move at low altitudes, reaching the target using GPS coordinates that are entered before launch.

On the other hand, Russia is able to use domestic Geran-2 drones, which are analogues of the Iranian Shaheeds. In Ukraine and the West, many believe that Tehran marked the products supplied to the Russian Federation with such a Russian marking.

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[Ural_engineer]

Correctly. The ambassador in London is supposed to whine. Now the Ukrainians will demand forcibly sent more volunteers from England. And why are drones only dangerous for everyone?

[Thrifty]

Instead of closing the factories in the country, re-profiling them for the production of mass kamikaze drones, and using them more actively in the first place, against the enemy troops. It is necessary to more actively knock out equipment and manpower on the fronts, otherwise we will not be able to level the superiority in manpower, which is very bad for us!

[marchcat]

Your words would be in the ears of the Ministry of Finance! If it comes, things can get off the ground.

[guest]

These ears have not heard anything for a long time and hardly ever heard.

[ZoV]

the ability to carry a significant payload, is characterized by low cost. Shahed-136 move at low altitudes,

And they buzz specifically when they start to circle the carousel in a swarm over the target .. It has a very powerful effect on the psyche!
As they say, better late than never .. Thank you Iran! Here are the real allies

[Nastia makarova]

the sound of messer attacking..........

[novel66]

Junkers diving, rather
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[ZoV]

Quote: novel xnumx

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I read the memoirs of comfrey WWII, they say it was a terrible feeling and it was very difficult to get used to it, this sound literally drove me crazy
And here this buzzing can last for a day and then bang unexpectedly ..

[neworange88]

Quote: novel xnumx

Junkers diving, rather
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Geranium-2, by the way, also dives, accelerating when approaching the target. But I don’t like the association of our weapons with the weapons of the Wehrmacht. The Wehrmacht ended the war badly.

[Boycott]

"Mi-i-i-i-ir to your home!" I think it is superfluous to indicate the author.

[neworange88]

Well, what can I say? Cheap and cheerful. Here it is the weapon of the future. Geran-2 high-precision loitering ammunition of operational-tactical range. Something in between Krasnopol-D and KR Caliber.

.According to estimates, sounding in the Ukrainian segment of the Network, twelve loitering ammunition flew about 400 km. Six UAVs reached the target, the rest were shot down by air defense systems remaining in the Kyiv region after the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine transferred most of them to the Kharkov and Nikolaev regions.

The consequences of a strike on the barracks of the 72nd mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the city of Bila Tserkva. October 5, 2022

. The declared flight range of the Shahed-136 loitering ammunition is 1800-2000 km, which has not yet been confirmed in practice. The Ukrainian Air Force talks about the ability of the UAV to cover a distance of 1000 km, and calls it a difficult target due to the small size of the drone. Yuriy Ignat, representative of the Ukrainian Air Force Command, defines loitering ammunition as an artillery projectile with a warhead weighing 40 kg, flying at a speed of 120 kilometers per hour, accelerating in a dive at the final stage of the flight when approaching the target. According to him, another difficulty in neutralizing these drones is in that "they fly in clusters, and the radar can detect them as one target, while in fact there are several of them at once."

https://aviation21.ru/geran-eto-sovsem-ne-to-chto-vy-dumaete/

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote from ZOV

..Thank you Iran! Here are the real allies

M-yeah. Iran is under sanctions no less than Russia, and has its own UAVs, unlike us.
Question - why? That we have fewer Kulibins than in Iran? I don't think. Most likely our Kulibins are spread rot by effective managers. From that they are forced to bow to the Persians. Shame. But you still have to go, in order to achieve victory.

[ZoV]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

M-yeah. Iran is under sanctions no less than Russia, and has its own UAVs, unlike us.
Question - why? That we have fewer Kulibins than in Iran? I don't think.

Good question ! Maybe ours are trying to hide our latest developments? Their time has not come yet .. After all, the West is constantly scanning us, the main war will be with them in which case
Didn't that thought occur to you?
But Iran owes Russia a lot, now it is openly paying us off and the United States does not have a decree with them now!
Here's what I think is important.

[Nickelium]

The war with him is in full swing. I think they are taking it out of the cabinets and dusting off Soviet projects. There were a bunch of them.

[guest]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

Iran under sanctions no less than Russia

But they have been under sanctions for longer, as they say, "that's what life-giving sanctions do."

[former soldier]

Sirens would still be connected to them immediately before the impact. If they act in swarms and on the line of contact or at a shallow depth in the rear.

[ZoV]

Quote: Former soldier

Sirens would still be connected to them immediately before the impact. If they act in swarms and on the line of contact or at a shallow depth in the rear.

Not bad idea ! I remember Messers over our trenches dumping empty barrels with holes, the howl was terrible ..

[former soldier]

Stormtroopers also turned on the sirens. When using drones, the goal is somewhat different. Roy is very small. Apparently they are trying to beat them with small arms by ear or visually. Especially during the day. The acoustic cacophony with reflection from the terrain is likely to disrupt the orientation of the shooters.

[ZoV]

Quote: Former soldier

Especially during the day. The acoustic cacophony with reflection from the terrain is likely to disrupt the orientation of the shooters.

Well, you and "sadist"

[former soldier]

Unfortunately, the ammunition is small and even minimal changes in its shape will affect aerodynamics, which means accuracy. The possibility of creating a false acoustic background of a swarm should be planned at the development stage.

[ZoV]

Quote: Former soldier

Unfortunately, the ammunition is small and even minimal changes in its shape will affect aerodynamics, which means accuracy. The possibility of creating a false acoustic background of a swarm should be planned at the development stage.

I hope the developers hear you .. I think the idea is not bad

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

Surprisingly .... Ukrainians. Or more tolerant, Ukrainians, all this time were waiting for cakes and bouquets falling into the sky!

[ARIONkrsk]

Quote: Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira

Surprisingly .... Ukrainians. Or more tolerant, Ukrainians, all this time were waiting for cakes and bouquets falling into the sky!

They are used to cookies.

[fiv]

Something is not heard about our Lancets. What, I wonder, happens to these weapons? It is probably not completely domestic, so it does not fly.

[donavi49]

These are different classes and types of use on the battlefield. For example, there would be nothing from the Lancet at the location of 72 brigades, well, at most a small fire.

The scalpels just failed. The Small Switch proved to be less effective than a quad with a 40mm American Vog (i.e. identical warhead). Varmat is also not impressive, and now the Poles are increasing their warheads three times, they promise the first samples under the Christmas tree. The same can be said about Cuba and the Lancet with 1-3 kg warheads. Only here is also piece goods with the release of level 3 UAVs per week.

Shahid is just a simple and cheap UAV with 36/50 kg warheads before redistribution. It does not have a transmitter, only reception, it does not have a camera, only coordinates, it has an ordinary GPS receiver from alik, and a circuit assembled from what happened to be obtained at flea markets, and an Intel chip.

The engine is a Chinese Limbach, also from Alikha.

Well, and most importantly, they can be made in hundreds and spent on the principle of launching 10, maybe something will fly. Even if Osu / Buk is spent on it, then -1 ZURka has already completed its task, the exchange is profitable.

[fiv]

Thank you. "The text of your comment is too short and, according to the site administration, does not contain useful information."

[Cheburek]

For the Iranians who have been under sanctions for 40 years and who have a lot to be happy about ...

[donavi49]

They were able to open aliexpress and assemble components for their UAVs from it according to the principle of cheap and cheerful.

Borisov, on the other hand, demanded prodigy, has no analogues, brains, an optical channel, various know-how, to be cooler than the Hero series. As a result, several models with a piece release.

And yes, Shahid136, Mujaher6, Ababil, Gaza, Shahid129 - do not meet the minimum requirements of the Ministry of Defense and not only the Ministry of Defense, and would not even be allowed to be tested if they were created on their own initiative.

[YanniKounnar]

Si les Chinois et les Nord Coreens pouvaient aussi fournir de fleurs...par bouquets

If only the Chinese and North Koreans could also give flowers... in bouquets!

[Andrey Moskvin]

Iranian drones have become dangerous. So give me more money.

[Nastia makarova]

I wonder what factory we stamp them in

[tralflot1832]

Severny village, Privokzalnaya street, Zhelezyaka garage cooperative, box 64. Knock three times. Password: Do they sell a Slavic wardrobe here?

[ZoV]

Quote: tralflot1832

Severny village, Privokzalnaya street, Zhelezyaka garage cooperative, box 64. Knock three times. Password: Do they sell a Slavic wardrobe here?

Laughed..
And what is laughter with laughter, but such naive questions are very often asked on such forums and some members of the forum involved begin to tell, trying to raise their status ..

[Nastia makarova]

I'm not a spy..............

[former soldier]

Who? "For what purpose did you arrive on the territory of the VO?"

[former soldier]

In any nearby garage, like the Palestinians their Qassams.

[tralflot1832]

I personally pin the numbers on the remains of the keels of Geraniums. So today we were amazed: Geraniums numbered 246,259,262!

[former soldier]

Loaded just from another entrance to the warehouse

[Prjanik]

Taking into account the fact that all the air defense of the Hohliks is mainly focused on hunting for our aircraft, and not protecting objects, then, in theory, having stamped cheap geraniums, you can only take out the entire infrastructure with them. Can be combined with launches of anti-radar missiles if they still decide to shoot them down

[donavi49]

The antidote on the surface is a lot of MZA and air defense in the style of the Second World War. However, this requires l / s, training and supplies of equipment. Although there should be no problems with technology, the Americans M163 have the entire Sierra Nevada packed. Well, the Europeans also have a lot of decommissioned, but effective trash.

[Prjanik]

It’s realistic to shoot down drones in small portions, but if you save up a thousand or two and send swarms on targets one fine night, including military units with these anti-aircraft guns, and in conjunction with the X-31, then good luck to them)

[guest]

Why by goals, one goal per Bankovaya is enough.

[Garris199]

In Iran, they guessed how to organize the production of such useful UAVs, while in our country they only guessed how to steal 1.5 million sets of equipment. And everyone gets away with it.

[guest]

Iranians have been banned from using Western banks for 40 years, Western sanctions have helped.

[Zulugami]

The Russians have normal tactics with these drones, they launch them at night and don’t visually see them, but you just hear that the moped is flying somewhere) but no one knows where it flies and where it will land))))

[9lvariag]

Well done Iranians really helped. Not like the Chinese Shahermachers with their schemes and wiring. Even Alik announced sanctions to the Republic of Crimea and the exchange rate of the ruble against the yuan is the most disadvantageous of all.

[maximace]

Do I understand correctly that, unfortunately, it is impossible to knock out such equipment on the battlefield?

[donavi49]

It is easy and simple, via an optical channel, as for example with Harop it is impossible. But if we say to open the location, the point of ammunition or concentration, then it is possible. Or stationary equipment (for example, quiet artillery in position / rest) - a copter / other UAV detects a target, binds and calculates the coordinates of the target, a new flight task is formed and sent to Shahid or laid down in one that has not yet been launched.

The Mujahers must knock out the equipment6. But they are still used very limitedly (several UAVs were shot down). Probably few of them have been set or are still being trained, looking for optimal use cases. Here is the one that fell into the sea - at the same time you can evaluate the culture of production in guided bombs.

[Lom_l]

Something he does not hurt similar to fallen into the sea. Where are the pictures from, if not a secret?

[donavi49]

There is a copyright for the entire photo - from where. But I took from Oryx in the selection.

They caught him in the sea, there was even a video.

[Carlos Hall]

Iranian drones are a success. I would reserve a part for throwing them at armored vehicles, artillery pieces and HIMARS

[Arkadich]

If you think about it, then it turns out that our numerical superiority in artillery, tanks, missiles does not scare them? We are used to it, we do not use it effectively, or what else?