Armed forces of Ukraine crossed the western border of the LPR and entered another settlement

The Telegram channel WarGonzo reports that the Ukrainian army has crossed the western border of the Luhansk People's Republic, which is officially part of the Russian Federation, and partially occupied the village of Makeevka. This n. should not be confused with the satellite city of Donetsk with the same name. The village of Petrovskoe (Grekovka) is also under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which was taken by the forces of the 95th Air Assault Brigade the day before.

Thus, the enemy has already crossed the Zherebets River and are moving towards the R-66 highway, which leads to Kremennaya. On the way of the AFU advance to Krasnorechensk, which is likely to become their next target, there is a water barrier in the form of the Krasnaya River. But this tributary of the Seversky Donets is not as wide as, for example, the Oskol, which the Ukrainian troops successfully crossed on a wide front. In the near future, it is this water obstacle that may become the last section of defense on the Lower Duvanka-Svatovo-Kremennaya line.

Military correspondent Sladkov reassures that this morning the situation in the Kremennaya area is “relatively calm”:

Ours are on the defensive. Artillery from us works intensively. Air defense works 3-4 times a day.

At the same time, according to his own information, a mass evacuation of civilians, personnel of medical institutions and administration employees was carried out in the city, all shops were closed. The enemy has completed the regrouping and is preparing for a further offensive. Russian engineering units are working to strengthen the fortified area.

The Rybar Telegram channel reports that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have equipped a bridgehead in Terny, from which raids of sabotage and reconnaissance groups are carried out on the Svatovo-Kremennaya road.

In the Russian public, they immediately remembered the report of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergei Shoigu to President Vladimir Putin, when he solemnly announced that the Lugansk Republic was completely under our control. Now it turns out that in this direction the RF Armed Forces are not only losing more and more new sectors, but are retreating deep into the territory of Russia.

At the same time, there is no panic at the front itself.

Comments

[Pilot 2017]

If you are so smart, then tell us the true losses, and we will see how you can screw garbage into your ears!

[Myths]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

how much dill has already been ground in this meat-packing plant? think about it better, who will then warm the wives?

The Poles will be counting on that.

[Sergey Kuzmin]

think about it better, who will then warm the wives?

the little girls there have long been in the western style have "husbands" from sex shops ... so don't be upset about them

[stankow]

Sergey Kuzmin Maybe you shouldn't stoop so low?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

who will then warm the wives?

Visitors Mahmud and Abimbol, perhaps without mutual consent, organized by a group and even with the few surviving husbands, and possibly the husbands themselves .
Just like in Germany, because "tse europa".

[Trapp1st]

you will be here in splendid isolation to save the Russian Federation further ...

She defeated everyone that month, in my opinion she has a neighbor who knows someone who served, so she knows what she is talking about.

[man]

When they will be sent to the "meat processing plant" in the next wave of mobilization, incl. be patient and you will be here in splendid isolation to save the Russian Federation ...
You are triumphant in vain, all this will lead to the fact that neither we nor you will be left ... And there will be Poles and all sorts of rabble ...

[Maxim L]

We in Belarus treat the Poles quite normally))) 400 thousand Belarusians have a Pole's card I think this is a significant figure for 9 million Belarus

[man]

We in Belarus treat the Poles quite normally)))
I'm not talking about everyone

[konst]

And where is your independence? There will be no more Belarus. Congratulations

[Maxim L]

At the moment yes. After the 20th year, Lukashenka traded the independence of Belarus for the preservation of his personal power. So what? Do you think the Belarusians are happy and support Russia? Oh well. So-so merit for Russia. It's just that Russia has received another supposedly controlled territory that will turn its back on Russia at the first opportunity.

[Lako]

You don’t speak for everyone from Belarus here. Do you dream of a Pole's card? Did you come out with a snout of the gentry? Although if you make a fuss and lick the gentry with the enzych, they may take pity on them, as an exception.

[Voronezh]

Are you sure that the Poles distribute these cards from charity. Or are you an ethnic Pole?

[Maxim L]

Unfortunately, I did not even find distant relatives of the Poles to get a map. I am very, very sorry about this. A huge number of my acquaintances have a Pole's card, because. their great-grandmother or great-grandfather was Polish

[Voronezh]

Well, if people remember their historical roots, then personally I don’t have any objections. But you see, there is another category. They begin to spoil where they live, and not for free, but as soon as they press them to the new "homeland" they strive to dump it.

[Maxim L]

Quote from Voronezh

Well, if people remember their historical roots, then personally I don’t have any objections. But you see, there is another category. They begin to spoil where they live, and not for free, but as soon as they press them to the new "homeland" they strive to dump it.

Yes, there are. But what percentage of those of the total? It's like in the 20th year after the elections in Belarus people were beaten, because. they are all supposedly paid for by the West. Tens of thousands came out in Minsk - and that's all paid for. Even if there are a couple of hundred paid - this is a meager percentage compared to the total number. I remember for what reason all my friends came out - a blatant lie during the counting of votes. They would write 65% to Luka and a maximum of 2 thousand people would come out. Of these, 500 paid. And so we got what we got

[Maxim L]

I remember and appreciate my roots. I would not mind living in union with Russia in one state, if Russia DEVELOPED. And so I see that Russia is not developing and lives only at the expense of its rich deposits of resources. But even that is okay. What really infuriates me is that the caste of officials / security forces has monopolized all this. And people just get leftovers. Although with such resources as Russia has, the whole nation could live in clover. Such wild INJUSTICE infuriates me. Therefore, as a Belarusian, I made my choice in favor of Europe. Everything is too unfair in Russia

[Voronezh]

I will not give counter arguments and convince. Especially if, as you say, you have made your choice. I wish you not to be disappointed in Europe, where everything is practically the same only with local flavor. Just before leaving, do not dump a bunch ...... on your homeland. Better according to the Russian proverb about the well. Good luck.

[Maxim L]

I would like people in my homeland to wake up and really start building a prosperous society. And do not live by constant breakfasts. By what year did Khrushchev promise to build communism there? "And nothing has changed". I am far from idealizing Europe. There are enough of their stocks. But the average person lives there much better than in Belarus or Russia. It is a fact. And I would also score on the standard of living in Belarus and Russia, if everyone really lived like that. But it is the INJUSTICE of the distribution of resources that kills me. And, besides the material factor, it also kills the fact that those in power do not think to hide their contempt for ordinary people

[Voronezh]

It is difficult for me to judge the standard of living in Belarus, I have never been there, but for some reason many of us envy how people live in you. Of course, except for the fighters for everything good against everything bad

[Maxim L]

Quote from Voronezh

It is difficult for me to judge the standard of living in Belarus, I have never been there, but for some reason many of us envy how people live in you. Of course, except for the fighters for everything good against everything bad

This only indicates how badly you live ... If you think that everything is OK in Belarus. It somehow doesn’t make me feel better that you suck and someone there envies us. Maybe some resident of Eretrea is also jealous of me. You know, I've never really enjoyed being bad for someone else. I myself have been to Europe many times. I have many friends who live there. I know how they live there. And I understand that the standard of living of Belarusians is much lower than in the developed countries of Europe

[Voronezh]

Well, you got excited ... I know for sure that since I live in Europe, not everyone can afford it. And then I did not say that I envy. On this we will stop communication because you have a complete rejection of an opinion different from yours

[Maxim L]

Therefore, I would like people like you not to look for an external enemy, but to help to cope with lawlessness within the country. So that our Motherland can be prosperous. In deed, not in words

[Lako]

Well, I'm half Pole from Belarus and my relatives live in Lithuania and Poland. But Belarus is my homeland, here my ancestors have lived from time immemorial and I am not going to leave. If anyone wants past the barzo, the border is open. You don't need a Pole's card for this, job ads in Poland are everywhere. It’s just that there is a category of people who are bad everywhere and everyone interferes with their lives.

[Emergency]

The boys will come and ban. Tightly.

[Cheburek]

They still have other problems, they themselves are banned in Ukraine ...

[Edik]

Quote from Cheburek

They have other problems

Are you thinking about recycling the population?

[dorz]

Quote: Emergency

The boys will come and ban. Tightly.

[Deep Diver]

Think you're on a firing squad? Aren't you afraid to be at the firing pit?

[dorz]

Quote from Deep Diver

Think you're on a firing squad? Aren't you afraid to be at the firing pit?

Better at the moat than with you in Hell.

[Maxim L]

Bravo. Well said. How did these lovers of executions get

[Evergreen]

Who are the "patriots" from this picture? The scumbags who are waiting - can't wait for the command to cut and kill? No need to vilify and humiliate the patriots like that! Patriots are not thoughtless killers, but people who do everything for the economic prosperity of their country

[smart ass]

Do you hope to write from the trench to the LPR? Do you see everything okay with the Internet?

[Cheburek]

This is a moot point, who has brains - usually comes ...

[Ros 56]

Exactly, miserable, you forgot Hitler, he also attacked at first, like Napoleon. Do you remember what ended up? Oh, you, a flatbread with meat, crushed by a boot.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Ros 56

Exactly, miserable, you forgot Hitler, he also attacked at first, like Napoleon. Do you remember what ended up?

Wow! Do you really consider the Armed Forces of Ukraine equal to these two figures? But after all, the Russian Armed Forces "came first" ... What does it turn out according to your logic ..?

[Ros 56]

It’s bad to be stupid, the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other banderva without the help of the striped and his mongrels with their supplies of weapons and mercenaries would have long been sitting in cells, and someone was guarding the clay. Nothing gift to them will be soon, towards the end of the year.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Ros 56

The Armed Forces of Ukraine and other banderva without the help of the striped and his mongrels with their supplies of weapons and mercenaries would have long been sitting in cells

If yes, if only ... What is the use of these "ifs"? Before the start of the NWO, it was clear that the Americans would support Ukraine.

Quote: Ros 56

Nothing gift to them will be soon, towards the end of the year.

Will we return the regions? Or are you talking about nuclear weapons? Oh, this will open Pandora's box, if so...

[Ros 56]

Will we return the regions?

Necessarily, and Nikolaevskaya, and Odessa and something else.

[xGhost]

In the spring, only the Javelins were of help, and the victorious army of the Russian Federation surrendered the Kyiv region. How is that?

[man]

Exactly, miserable, you forgot Hitler, he also attacked first
Compared, they were Soviet people, not the Pepsi generation! And then we were together! And the generals? And the Supreme? Shall we compare?

[Silver99]

Tell the Supreme Commander about this (((((((((((and raise his eyelids, the enemy invaded Russia, it’s not the time to celebrate birthdays with the Moscow Region. He at least remembers what he talks about at rallies, I repeat the berets of the enemy on Russian soil ( ((((((((

[Amper]

Yes, he knows everything, he has an eternal position - on the sidelines and can resolve itself. He is not an expert in anything and did not graduate from the academies, a gray clerk who fell into the arms of a beautiful country. It was very troublesome to take care of her, I used it with my homies, so she became sick in her underwear.

[man]

Yes, he knows everything, he has an eternal position - on the sidelines and can resolve itself. He is not an expert in anything and did not graduate from the academies, a gray clerk
I have long been tormented by the worst suspicions ... much worse ...

[Amper]

No, he is not a State Department spy. Just a dense mediocrity, but cunning and voluptuous. If I were a spy, I would have given up a long time ago. Too long a combination of 20 years to surrender. I wanted to be a king, to show off to my heart's content, to dress my friends with a royal hand and women.

[man]

The sovereign is weak and crafty,
A bald dandy, the enemy of labor,
Unintentionally warmed by glory,
Reigned over us then.
Pushkin

[Amper]

They are not translated into Russia. Women give birth du ... crayfish, and the Motherland needs heroes!

[man]

They are not translated into Russia. Women give birth du ... crayfish, and the Motherland needs heroes!
And there was no shortage of heroes either, it’s a pity that they were rare among the rulers

[Grem1]

Yes, you got a worthless ruler, although Zelyapots is still not bald. True, in the Lubyanka they will quickly shave him!

[man]

Yes, you got a worthless ruler, although Zelyapots is still not bald. True, in the Lubyanka they will quickly shave him!
not for you, but for us. And I have already called for Zelensky several times to liquidate

[Sergey Kuzmin]

Tell the Supreme Commander about it

yes ... again, another celebration ... that's all we see from the Supreme during the war ... "it was celebrated to the point that the enemy is already stomping on the territory of Russia ... I would take it like the Supreme and fly on my birthday with with his retinue along the borders of Ukraine on the strategic missile carriers TU-22, TU-95 and TU-160 ... yes, he sent out "invitations" for his birthday to all "green and green" with air-to-surface missiles

[Grem1]

Quote: Sergey Kuzmin

yes ... again, another celebration ... that's all we see from the Supreme during the war ...

Do you offer to cry with burning tears? Go on!

[Dva parovoza]

Sure sure. it’s just that the shumeryatina at the meat processing plant will end by that time.

[MrFYGY]

Here, even if Shoigu finds even a drop of honor in himself and commits Roskomnadzor, nothing will change.
8 years of destruction of the army by writing and theft came to a natural end.

[Trapp1st]

nothing will change anymore.

The declared goals of denazification, demilitarization can no longer be achieved, and partial mobilization will not help, the enemy resisted, frustrated the plans of the Russian Federation and went on the offensive. As technically it is called, I think it is not difficult to guess, therefore, speeches about readiness for negotiations are increasingly heard from the Kremlin.

[Nastia makarova]

this is the first stage, mobilization will not stop even for a minute

[Cheburek]

Are you sure there are no mistakes in the word "mobilization"? For it looks as if they confused B with G ... The comment is my personal opinion ....

[skeptick2]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

this is the first stage, mobilization will not stop even for a minute

This mobilization looks more like a Volkssturm.
But the Volkssturmists were supplied with ammunition and weapons, and were not forced to purchase helmets for their hard-earned money, as is done in the second army in the world.
How to conduct mobilization, we must learn from Ukraine. While we were rejoicing at the next capture of a village or a street in it, Ukraine systematically carried out mobilizations, one wave after another. While the simple truth could not reach us in any way that there was a reasonable exchange of territories within reasonable limits for the time that Ukraine needed to prepare for a counteroffensive, Ukrainian mobiles calmly passed the necessary training course (including abroad) and were equipped with the most modern weapons. As a result, we have a rout near Kharkov, we begin to lose the territories of the Lugansk region, and the territories of the Kherson region shrink like shagreen leather right before our eyes.
Our mobilization will not give anything and will not change anything. What will change if these mobs, caught by the scruff of the neck, are thrown on the front? Yes, you look at their faces in the military registration and enlistment offices, on the wires. What is written on them - inspiration? Or doom? Motivation is zero. That's the root of the problem. Why die?

[lis-ik]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

this is the first stage, mobilization will not stop even for a minute

Meanwhile, the regular army will protect the guarantor from the people.

[smart ass]

He has the National Guard for this, there are 250 thousand people, about as many as there were not enough at the front))

[vovochkarzhevsky]

Mobilization of whom, cannon fodder? How many new air regiments have we deployed? None, because it's expensive. Moreover, our government also earns on the mobilized. Yes, it is the authorities, it is they who are to blame for the fact that the warehouses were full only on paper, but in reality it was zilch, and nothing, no punishment for the guilty. But not because of humanism and philanthropy, but because the authorities have long grown together with thieves.

[Nastia makarova]

recruited mainly in the infantry, tankers and artillerymen

[vovochkarzhevsky]

Namely, what is cheaper is what is deployed. Aviation is expensive.

[Nastia makarova]

expensive, there are few planes left, preparing a pilot is also expensive

[man]

expensive, there are few planes left, preparing a pilot is also expensive
Most importantly, long...

[Maxim G]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

expensive, there are few planes left, preparing a pilot is also expensive

We have many rich people.
The oligarchs, Alla Borisovna, Nagiyev, Leps... let them chip in for planes, helicopters.
Cars from storage and civil.

There are pilots, you can youth and storekeepers, civilians.

[Nastia makarova]

I completely agree, even if, as in the Second World War, everyone creates a tank battalion

[igoist]

how many young people, civilians and reserve troops, fly in, given that one such reserve officer crashed a Su-25 in the Rostov region, and another reserve officer, an entire aviation general, was either shot down or lost control in the very first sortie?

[Maxim G]

Quote from igoist

a lot of young people, civilians and reservists fly in, one such reservist crashed a su-25 in the Rostov region, and another reservist, an entire aviation general, was either shot down or lost control in the very first sortie

A lot, if you approach it wisely.

[igoist]

keyword with the mind, and the authorities have never been friends with this

[vovochkarzhevsky]

About 300 helicopters can be removed from storage and returned to service, with even more trained crews in reserve.
But the authorities feel sorry for the money, because you cannot steal here. Whether business on New Year's illumination to spend. In St. Petersburg, for example, we planned how much would be enough to buy one new Yak-130 light attack aircraft.

[igoist]

there are no crews in stock, where to get them from

[vovochkarzhevsky]

Well, yes, we, who have served as personnel and retired, do not exist.

[igoist]

yes, but they are well over 60 and they quit due to chronic diseases

[igork735]

Nastia makarova
recruited mainly in the infantry, tankers and artillerymen

It is clear that all the places in the warehouse are occupied ...

[smart ass]

I am especially pleased when women talk about mobilization and about the duty of a man to die for his homeland ... they know better))

[Nastia makarova]

also tell us that we want to get money later

[smart ass]

But what about without it? Have you seen in the news how many marriages are concluded before being sent to the front? Women pull the antlers by the horns to the registry office for what purpose?

[Nastia makarova]

you imagine such women, apparently you got one, now many live in civil marriages, there are children, in which case they will receive money otherwise they will not pay

[smart ass]

I have no idea I know 95% of them. They treat a man as a consumable, in which case, to squeeze out more

[Nastia makarova]

like a black widow spider

[smart ass]

It also happens that they fly from 2 x different men, and then live on alimony with a third and they didn’t care about their children

[Nastia makarova]

why are you spilling so much negativity on women, look at yourself

[smart ass]

Look at the statistics who is in first place in the world in male suicide) and then translate the arrows

[Sergey Kuzmin]

that is why the Kremlin is increasingly talking about readiness for negotiations.

from the very beginning of the NWO, they disgraced themselves for all eternity with this readiness for everything ...

[Grem1]

Quote: Trapp1st

The declared goals of denazification, demilitarization can no longer be achieved,

Yah? Is that how you see it from your couch?

[Elena Akinfieva]

Since 99 they have been systematically destroyed, with their signs on all pillars. Who in the subject will understand

[filibuster]

How cleverly you write off everything only to Shoigu, but what about Gerasimov as the head of the General Staff, Naryshkin as the head of the foreign intelligence service, and Putin as the commander in chief? Is only one Minister of Defense to blame?

[skeptick2]

In fairness, it should be noted that Naryshkin - onlywho hesitated and tried to say at least something at a meeting with the guarantor. Obviously, simply because, as the head of the SVR, he knew an order of magnitude more than anyone else. But he quickly closed his mouth. We won't specify who.

[filibuster]

Yes, I agree with this, perhaps Naryshkin was even against it, but it did not get on the air.

[man]

8 years of destruction of the army by writing and theft came to a natural end.
Not 8, but more than 20

[ViktorX]

At the same time, there is no panic at the front itself.

For some reason, I remembered the phrase "It's raining in Santiago" ....

[dmi.pris1]

Something is brewing ... This mess cannot last long

[GRIGORIY76]

I remembered the phrase from the movie "Gotham must be destroyed."

[Gardamir]

A cloudless sky over Moscow.
Also a quote

[dmi.pris1]

Moscow is unaccustomed to this. But to the "Swan Lake" of all irons ...

[solar]

For some reason, I remembered the phrase "It's raining in Santiago" ....

Or about the clear skies of Spain...

[man]

Or about the clear skies of Spain...
Not clean, but cloudless.

[solar]

This is the soviet version
Spanish-language sources think somewhat differently, although they differ in details.

En toda España el cielo está despejado
En toda España cielo despejado
Todo el cielo de España está despejado
All over Spain the sky is clear
Clear skies all over Spain
All the skies of Spain are clear

[man]

This is the soviet version
Spanish-language sources think somewhat differently, although they differ in details.
I won’t argue, I’m judging by the serial film of the 60s, where this phrase was the password for starting a fascist revolt in Spain

[Uprun]

Further we are waiting for news....., day by day....... there is nothing more to comment on...., everything has already been said.... further we are waiting for news, day by day.....

[Flooding]

The Telegram channel WarGonzo reports that the Ukrainian army has crossed the western border of the Luhansk People's Republic, which is officially part of the Russian Federation.

To what this verbal balancing act.
Ukrainian troops crossed the border of the Russian Federation.

[Fedor Sokolov]

And they pass on with impunity as a warning to all our other vis-a-vis-neighbors who are eager to chop off a piece from Russia.

[Flooding]

Quote: Fedor Sokolov

And they pass on with impunity as a warning to all our other vis-a-vis-neighbors who are eager to chop off a piece from Russia.

Time will tell.
And this is not a show announcement.

[Fedor Sokolov]

Further, Japan, seeing that it is not dangerous to attack and occupy Russian territory, with the help of its US ally, will finally solve the "Kuril issue" in its favor.

[Drotro]

Japan has no army. If only NATO can dare to occupy the Kuriles.
Just how they plan to pull it off.
Although in a real trash can be anything. It seems that we are deliberately forced to understand at least something less and less.

[icant007]

Quote from Drotro

Japan has no army.

If you think that the name of the Self-Defense Force means that Japan does not have an army, then you are mistaken.
Ground forces - 144 thousand, 40 thousand less than the Ukrainians had before the NVO,

[ZIF122]

Japan has an army that is modern and strong, as well as a navy with the most modern weapons!

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Flood

To what this verbal balancing act.
Ukrainian troops crossed the border of the Russian Federation.

This is also a verbal balancing act. They did not cross anything at the moment, as they were on Russian territory before. They just keep pushing into our territory.

[Flooding]

Quote: SKVichyakow

This is also a verbal balancing act. They didn’t cross anything at the moment, since they were on Russian territory before

Do you have an amendment specifically to my words or to what is written in the article?

[Deep Diver]

No one crossed the generally recognized border of the Russian Federation, and what they came up with in the "referendums" does not interest anyone in their right mind

[solar]

And in the Kherson or Donetsk region some other border?
I’m generally silent about Zaporozhye, it’s not clear there even with the border.

[gromit]

So they have not left it since the referenda.
In the Zaporozhye region, they are in general, the capital of the region is occupied)

[invisible_man]

Someone hoped that after the recognition of the LPR as Russian, they would stop?

[GRIGORIY76]

Yes, Putin believed that this would be a red line. But there was nothing for the past red lines to the enemies, so everyone is already aware that the threats are a bluff.

[nordscout]

How many pencils have already been "marked" to the notorious "red lines" ... It seems that Western "partners" have long ceased to pay attention to these "funny pictures from red lines" from Russia ... Even the Minister of Foreign Affairs - S.V. Lavrov began, as it were, to be embarrassed (blush, tremble in his voice), "forecasting" the Kremlin's "mantras" about "red and crimson-red lines" into the international space ..... It's time to start drawing these "fateful" lines on geographical maps for our headquarters located in the Ukrainian theater of operations ... Or have the red pencils already run out, but on "import substitution" they have not yet established production or delivery from China?

[man]

Putin believed that this would be a red line
Putin's red lines are akin to the latest Chinese warnings....

[IvanSviridov]

They should have been scared..........

[tihonmarine]

In the Russian public, they immediately remembered the report of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergei Shoigu to President Vladimir Putin, when he solemnly announced that the Lugansk Republic was completely under our control.

The war does not consist of only victories, there are victories, there are also defeats, but the victory will be for those who have more will and strength.

[Kronos]

So Ukraine, with the support of NATO and the United States, has much more forces.

[man]

So Ukraine, with the support of NATO and the United States, has much more forces.
Moreover, both weapons and manpower. Killed Ukrainians are replaced by mercenaries and their own military

[Tim]

Unfortunately, the leadership of our country has neither the will nor the strength. Corruption and theft in the Moscow Region, this is the result of the situation in the NWO at the moment.

[Kiril Letov]

And why only the Ministry of Defense. But doesn’t the state of health care institutions of the Moscow Region under Vorobyov testify to this? Specific example. Recently, my wife was taken by ambulance to the Dolgoprudnensky Central City Hospital, where patients were also taken from other districts of the Moscow region. There was ONE surgeon for the entire emergency department, to whom a considerable queue of the same patients brought by ambulance accumulated. There were not even enough simple chairs in the corridor where the patients were waiting. Those who could stand were writhing in pain, others I saw on the floor. It is 5 km from Moscow. Is that normal? Do you think these people have forgotten this? I think no. And Vorobyov does not blow his mustache, as far as I know, he flies in a helicopter and enjoys all the benefits of a personal governor's paradise under PR from the regional budget. Say the President has nothing to do with it? Despite the fact that he himself created a system in which such Vorobyovs are dependent only on him and in fact not on us. Sorry, it hurt, I gave only one particular example, but how many more ....

[nordscout]

You very accurately noticed "tihonmarine" about "victories" and "defeats" ... I would also add that there are victories only if everyone, without exception, is motivated to "victory", starting from an ordinary soldier, to the minister, where the whole country works for victory, as a single mechanism. Where "red lines" are drawn and embodied "in marble and bronze" on maps in Gen. Headquarters and at the Headquarters of the Supreme, and not virtual lines, which they "broadcast", even from all domestic irons and which, it seems, "our recent" partners "stopped paying attention ... True, we must pay tribute to our media - domestic people, while all this is still "huffing", but it is already starting to ask "uncomfortable" questions ... And I would also add about victory: it is supposed to be there, and those who master the art of war fight with their "white gloves" off , tells the truth to his people, trusts him and respects him ...

[Amper]

Now the war is not even like in 1941-45. The speed and means are completely different. Therefore, it is correct: the military-industrial complex, the will, the mind and the professional army. And now, what do we have from this!?

[lis-ik]

Quote: tihonmarine

The war does not consist of only victories, there are victories, there are also defeats, but the victory will be for those who have more will and strength.

It would be fair if the authorities even tried to fight, so only caring for the enemy, setting up their own and empty threats and other chatter.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: lis-ik

It would be fair if the authorities even tried to fight, so only caring for the enemy, setting up their own and empty threats and other chatter.

War must be war, by all means and forces. There can be no pity and "good will" in war. This is a war for the survival of Russia and its people, so it must be fought according to the rules of war.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: tihonmarine

War must be war, by all means and forces. There can be no pity and "good will" in war. This is a war for the survival of Russia and its people, so it must be fought according to the rules of war.

Then you need to first stop pumping gas from Russia through the GTS in Ukraine ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: cat Rusich

Then you need to start to stop pumping gas from Russia through the GTS in Ukraine.

It is necessary to do everything comprehensively and at once - "In war, as in war."

[Grem1]

Quote: tihonmarine

The war does not consist of only victories, there are victories, there are also defeats, but the victory will be for those who have more will and strength.

Only the majority of the local public, apparently, has neither the will nor the strength.

[AleksT]

One of the strongest armies in the world? Or is it a myth?

[Elena Akinfieva]

The best soldiers. With the most bezdprnoe command. The American general said. I don't remember which

[Edward Vashchenko]

Leave this nonsense, the army is a single organism, with poor leadership and training, where can good soldiers come from? Who will teach them? Who will prepare?
All this is drawn from the tales of anti-communist fascists that the people themselves stood up and defeated German fascism in the Second World War, contrary to the leadership, of course. Without the organization of the process, education and training, no one has ever won a war, you can win a battle, a battle with difficulty, a war - in no way.

[icant007]

Quote: Eduard Vaschenko

Leave this nonsense, the army is a single organism, with poor leadership and training, where can good soldiers come from? Who will teach them? Who will prepare?

There is the Combat Charter of the Ground Forces. Everything is written there. And in order to understand in theory how to fight, you need to read it.
Well, since we do not like to read boring instructions or laws, it turns out the way it does.

the commander must understand: the purpose of the upcoming actions; tasks of the battalion (company) and platoon (platoon and squad (tank);

the plan of the senior commander (especially ways to defeat the enemy); landmarks assigned to them; what objects (targets) in the direction of action of the platoon (squad, tank) are affected by the means of senior commanders;

tasks of neighbors, conditions of interaction with them; control, interaction and notification signals and the order of actions on them,

as well as the time it takes to complete the task. Based on the clarification of the task, the platoon commander calculates the time for preparing the battle (performing the assigned task). and so on.

https://dzen.ru/media/id/5ebd9303a23e1560113ee2b6/633d3594b70c8078f6409dd8

[Edward Vashchenko]

I didn’t quite understand, i.e. You take the Charter, read it, okay, learned it by heart and that's it, are you ready?
Of course I'm sorry. perhaps you studied like that, but I studied under the guidance of commanders, very good commanders.
Well, there, in the army, there is such nonsense as to navigate the terrain, for example, in the charter it is somehow not written how to do this and about much, much, much.
You can also say, well, why practice shooting skills, I took the Manual on shooting, for example, AGS or PC, read - "everything is written there" - and go ahead: the tape got stuck, it wedges, it doesn’t matter, I opened the manual if it is at hand, and let's tinker.
It will wait there
It is strange that no one had previously thought of removing "teachers" from training in all areas, not only in the army, everywhere, and go ahead: read the Textbooks, everything is written there ..
Our company commander said in training: You, infantry, run and dig, run and dig ... and study, study, study: run and dig.
Best regards,

[icant007]

Quote: Eduard Vaschenko

I didn’t quite understand, i.e. You take the Charter, read it, okay, learned it by heart and that's it, are you ready?

I'm talking about what you need to start to fulfill the elementary requirements laid down in the charter. A subunit commander can and should resolve many issues at his own level. And do not blame everything recklessly on the bosses.
And I noted that in theory. It needs to be known and applied. No commander will teach.

[Edward Vashchenko]

I agree:

And do not blame everything recklessly on the bosses.

and vice versa.
Distribution of duties and responsibilities, their strict observance!

[for]

Quote: Elena Akinfieva

The best soldiers. With the most mediocre command.

And when the people with pitchforks stand up to defend the Fatherland, then no mediocrity can prevent the defeat of the enemy.

[Grem1]

So this general, madam, was talking about his own country, and not about your Ukraine.

[Nastia makarova]

with nuclear weapons yes ..............................................

[GRIGORIY76]

The first army of Europe is at war with the second army of Europe.
Where is the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and where is the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, everyone decides for himself.

[al3x]

In the light of recent events, it becomes clear why, for 7 out of 8 months, the NWO have, in fact, marked almost the same place .. I’m wondering, did the management generally understand where they fit in initially, or does each new day bring more and more surprises for them?

[soloist2424]

Suppose you understand, and what to do? Raise your hands in front of the Americans? Fighting is not always in favorable conditions.

[al3x]

In my opinion, there was an overconfidence (“we haven’t started anything seriously yet”, but what then, did we play toys for several months?), again in the light of recent events.

[nordscout]

Dear "solist2424"! In war, "favorable conditions" are created by the belligerents themselves or with the help of their headquarters in the theater of operations ... Our "favorable conditions" were simply not expected or were excluded from the plans of the so-called NWO. Some kind of "agreement" was supposed (see Belarus, Turkey), "gestures of good will", preservation of the transport and logistics infrastructure of the enemy, ensuring comfort and tranquility in the central, western and regions of Ukraine, creating conditions for the unhindered flow of weapons, equipment, ammunition and l\ s, including mercenaries, from NATO to the theater. That's all the "steam" of the alleged "favorable conditions" for the RF Armed Forces - simply went into the informational and political "beep" ... It is necessary to fight according to the laws of war, then "favorable conditions" will appear on the front line ...

[spirit]

management understood

So the multi-move chess player rules, though he doesn’t even see one step ahead. And the fact that the “party” didn’t have a plan “B” after the Enchanting failure of plan “A” speaks of their mental abilities, led by “Grandfather” living in a world of dreams, where he imagines himself smarter than Bonaparte, Pompey and Peter

[man]

So the multi-move chess player rules, though he doesn't even see one step ahead.
he does not play chess, but poker

[Amper]

Vovan didn’t know for sure, otherwise he would have thrown everyone in 2014. The faithful sang in the ears of the sidekick, who were sung by the same lower ones, that in two weeks we will break the ukrov and put our foreman in the clearing. Forshmak, however, came out, everyone screwed up One hope for a peasant, so give him weapons, and even modern ones! Where can I get it!? All the loot has already been credited to foreign accounts, but buried in palaces. Local factories for shopping centers, kiosks, buildings were commissioned, and the hard workers fled.

[man]

did the management generally understand where they were going initially, or does each new day bring more and more surprises for them?
the management was waiting for the flowers to be brought, but they brought wreaths ...

[Grem1]

Quote: al3x

In the light of recent events, it becomes clear why, for 7 out of 8 months, the NWO have, in fact, marked almost the same place ..

Not bad, they "trampled" like that, they cut off the Svidomo from the Sea of ​​\u100b\uXNUMXbAzov, they let the Dnieper water into the Crimea, they broke through a land corridor to the peninsula. More than XNUMX thousand Nazis, according to Western data, were sent to Bandera
etc.

I’m wondering, did the management generally understand where they fit in initially, or does each new day bring more and more surprises for them?

For example? Of course, the leadership made one big mistake, this is that before the start of the operation they did not consult with you and the local specialists.

[hellcos]

Their pace is the same as ours at the beginning of the NMD, when they reported on the capture of several villages at once in a day. I already thought that on the capture of Liman they were exhausted, but they continue to shove.

[RaccoonSnake]

In order for us to have the Army again, and not the "armed forces", we will have to do a titanic work, but this is if the country survives ... But now we are witnessing the finale of 30 years of endless experiments by "effective managers" on the army. But the generals have already been blamed.

[vovochkarzhevsky]

So we have "effective managers" instead of generals.

[pharmacist]

One gets the impression that when we mobilize, regroup, prepare for an offensive, build up military potential, etc., then we will have to attack from the line of contact on February 23.02.22, XNUMX, because the rest will simply be lost. Moreover, both sides by that time will already have considerable combat experience, promising serious losses and an indeterminate time of the conflict.

[Nastia makarova]

the first mombiks are already in the Zaporozhye direction and in Lugansk

[Asad]

Is this something new, mombiki, your invention? Leave mobilized fingers tired?

[Nastia makarova]

I didn’t invent mobiki, they’ve been saying so for a long time in LDNR

[gromit]

So this is horror and shame, they were not even prepared for a month !!!
Or are they those valiant contractors who fled after breaking their contracts?

[Nastia makarova]

there are some among them, but mostly from civilians, well, while they are only studying in the Luhansk region, there was no information that they were on the front line

[nordscout]

Pharmacist! Let's start from Mariupol or from Snake Island....

[man]

One gets the impression that when we mobilize, regroup, prepare for an offensive, build up military potential, etc., then we will have to attack from the line of contact on 23.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX.
no matter how it was necessary, according to tradition, from Moscow ...

[Last centurion]

And of course there will be no carpet bombing of the attackers, and at the headquarters in Kyiv they will relax, drink beer - because they definitely won’t fly in and watch propaganda on broadcasting TV towers. Strange VO.

[Alexandr2637]

Sorry. Haven't we started yet? Or already .... "finished"?

[Old_Major]

You dark people, this is a systematic leveling of the front in conjunction with gestures of goodwill.

[nordscout]

Old_Major! All this so-called NWO is a solid "gesture of good will" with the acceptance under "its wing" of the once and again partially occupied territories ... The solid East, and the East is a delicate matter ...

[Timur_kz]

If there are not enough people, then he can maneuver more, and not try to cover 60 meters with one person ... For an observer-spotter, even 300 meters is normal. Why can't we use the same tactics as the Armed Forces of Ukraine, creating a lot of maneuverable DRG groups with mortar and rocket support (1-2 hail vehicles with direct subordination of the DRG). The task of such a DRG will not be to resist the Dill DRG, but to detect, block and direct artillery in time. We still have an advantage in art, so we need to use it wisely, small mobile crews (mortars, rocket launchers), which will quickly appear in the right places, are better than standing in divisions. Ukrainians will end up in the same situation as the Russian Army, unable to conduct an effective counter-battery fight against small mobile groups.

[Skipper]

Let the path continue to play a democrat and a humanist ... that is, God forbid, the satellites will be cut out .. no way .... God forbid bridges and crossings will be cut out - no way ... God forbid the bridges will blow up and cut out - no way and no God will de-energize Ukraine, because the brothers live there.

[Ivan Ivanov]

In this situation, our politicians and diplomats must run around the world at triple speed, collecting international brigades, otherwise the problem of a shortage of drugs cannot be solved at an emergency pace

[Dmitrii]

Guys, very old news, a few days behind...

[Got it]

And after all, not Ukrainian generals, but NATO ones are puffing over the strategy, I wonder where they got their experience? Or are they learning so fast? Everything is clear - intelligence, satellites, technology, but still? The efficiency is the highest. There are suspicions that the NATO army system is maximally freed from masturbation, paperwork, the construction of dachas, passing physical standards instead of generals, etc.

[Hadji Murat]

Ost share without panic and excitement, hope for the mobs, they will definitely defeat the one from whom the contract soldiers retreated

[Yuriy1000]

Is this also part of the plan? We have a special operation going according to plan ...

[cokol-xnumx]

The situation in the Starobelsky direction
as of 12.00 October 6, 2022

On the Kupyansky sector of the front, the 2nd and 3rd battalions of the 14th separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine made an attempt to storm Tavolzhanka and Olshana with artillery fire support. Russian troops repulsed the attack, the Armed Forces of Ukraine retreated.

Due to numerous failures in this area, the Ukrainian command changed tactics: the formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine plan to capture Olshana from the south (Sinkovka) and from the north (Gorobievka). Cover from air strikes is provided by air defense systems in the Liman 1 area.

▪️In the Petropavlovsk sector, the shock groups of the 14th and 92nd Ombre of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continue their attempts to reach the Kislovka-Orlyanka line. On the evening of October 5, tank units of the RF Armed Forces engaged the enemy in the area of ​​Stepovaya Novoselovka.

During the clash, the Ukrainian infantry suffered losses and retreated to Petropavlovka. Despite the failure, the command of the brigade set the task of taking Kislovka in the next day.

To this end, a sabotage and reconnaissance group of foreign mercenaries and members of special forces units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, up to 20 people, is being formed in the Petropavlovka area.

At the Kremennaya sector, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are completing the regrouping for the offensive on Kremennaya and Svatovo.

▪️Up to 200 mobilized citizens have been deployed in the vicinity of Torsky. In the areas east of Makiivka and south of Ploshchanka, Ukrainian DRGs are operating, probing the defenses of the RF Armed Forces.

Over the past two days, Ukrainian artillery has been trying to establish fire control over the Kremennaya-Svatovo highway. Target designation is provided by reconnaissance UAVs equipped with a projectile drop device.

▪️The backbone of the offensive grouping of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is made up of units of the 25th separate airborne brigade. Management and coordination of actions both in the Svatovsky and Kremenny sections is carried out from the command post in Liman.

[marc75]

As I understand it, the "sleepers" were instructed to wet the authority of the Russian army, about this back in March

[Cheburek]

You are talking about the Kremlin, who organized gestures of goodwill, constantly stopping the offensive, about the constant uncontrollable desire for negotiations and about the gum. corridors for the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Azov? Commentary is my personal opinion.

[Terrano]

Patriots, go ahead! United Russia party members, deputies, officials, go ahead! You have something to protect. Three million will be typed.

[Amper]

Yes. Why do not we hear that the EP has called on all able-bodied members of the party to join the ranks of volunteers! How are the communists in 1941? Where is the beauty and pride of EP D. Medvedev? We do not hear the call because she is a residence permit!?

[alexleony]

Quote from solist2424

Suppose you understand, and what to do? Raise your hands in front of the Americans? Fighting is not always in favorable conditions.

You don’t need to raise your hands up. You need to hit at full strength and on the infrastructure, including the civilian one. They can bombard Donetsk with anti-personnel mines, and the answer to Kyiv? Yes, so that the population howled from what the support of the Bandera regime leads to. Yes into their cellars, without water and heating, so that their brains fall into place.

[Drotro]

These are the voices of those who scream in the desert.
No one hears this, or does not want to hear, or pretends not to hear.
Just tin full, nonsense. I have no words.

[Sebostyuan]

The armed forces of a neighboring city hostile to us crossed the state border of the Russian Federation. Did I understand correctly? Then I have a question. Where is the emergency meeting of the Security Council? Foreign Minister's speech? Sovereignty has been violated, you, gentlemen, guarantors, have not forgotten anything about your oaths on the constitution.

[rotkiv04]

Quote from Sebostyuan

The armed forces of a neighboring city hostile to us crossed the state border of the Russian Federation. Did I understand correctly? Then I have a question. Where is the emergency meeting of the Security Council? Foreign Minister's speech? Sovereignty has been violated, you, gentlemen, guarantors, have not forgotten anything about your oaths on the constitution.

they are WAITING, waiting for the corpse of the enemy to float past them

[Cheburek]

You what from this. Well, they will get together, well, they will discuss, they will even sign some papers, but what’s the point, as Khrushchev used to say: “If the treaty is not backed by force, then it’s worth nothing.” useless activity. Commentary is my personal opinion.

[Alexandr2637]

Another preoccupation at dinner is being prepared.

[flicker]

Now it turns out that in this direction the RF Armed Forces are not only losing more and more new sectors, but are retreating deep into the territory of Russia.

That's right, now it is precisely the territory of Russia. Those. Russia was under attack.
And this is the official (legal) reason to declare war on Ukraine, with all the ensuing decisions, such as total attacks on the entire vital infrastructure of Ukraine.
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At the same time, there is no panic at the front itself.

Panic moods arise here in the VO, and not on the front line.

[Atmospheric QUEEN]

Reading is boring. Let it be even sicker for this Shoigu.

[lets-true]

Valentina Matvienko: Russia has repeatedly offered negotiations to resolve the intra-Ukrainian crisis

This was stated by the Speaker of the Federation Council at the XNUMXth Summit of Speakers of the Parliaments of the GXNUMX States. “In Istanbul, they were ready to move, but, unfortunately, Ukraine then, obviously, being under external control, refused these agreements. We say again - we are for negotiations, we are for dialogue, we are for a peaceful political solution to this crisis. Let's negotiate and sit down at the negotiating table."
And that we are breaking spears here. Well, of course, the old hag is preparing public opinion.

[solar]

Valentina Matvienko: Russia has repeatedly offered negotiations to resolve the intra-Ukrainian crisis

What kind of intra-Ukrainian crisis is that?

[Aleksey1951]

That the people are worried, now the new colonel-general will come to power, he will show everyone how he was going to dance lezginka in Kyiv.

[RaccoonSnake]

It's kind of like the territory of the Russian Federation, right? And where is the "Supreme Commander"?

[Petr_Koldunov]

Artillery from us works intensively. Air defense works 3-4 times a day.

But the advancing forces of the ukrovermacht are made of a hologram, and therefore shells and bullets fly through them without causing harm. It is so? Right?
Because there is nothing else I can explain the frantic work of our artillery, MLRS and aviation - which does not prevent the Sumerians from moving forward and occupying settlements!

[Aibolit-66]

Arithmetic problem. There are two in the ring. One heavyweight 150 kilograms. The second is small but extremely arrogant weighing up to 30 kilograms. The small one has hatred in his head and a willingness to kill. The heavyweight has some doubts in his head and a desire to negotiate. The question is why did the heavyweight enter the ring.

[Aibolit-66]

Without fuel, there can be no offensive. The enemy should not have fuel at all! They must also be hungry.

[Harry_]

Quote: Amper

Vovan didn’t know for sure, otherwise he would have thrown everyone in 2014. The faithful sang in the ears of the sidekick, who were sung by the same lower ones, that in two weeks we will break the ukrov and put our foreman in the clearing. Forshmak, however, came out, everyone screwed up One hope for a peasant, so give him weapons, and even modern ones! Where can I get it!? All the loot has already been credited to foreign accounts, but buried in palaces. Local factories for shopping centers, kiosks, buildings were commissioned, and the hard workers fled.

..as exactly said..

[igoist]

Quote: Ros 56

Will we return the regions?

Necessarily, and Nikolaevskaya, and Odessa and something else.

there are a lot of you returnees in social networks, but why are you not in the queues at the military registration and enlistment office?

[Russian jacket]

Reindeer breeder in his repertoire. Trepach.