Elon Musk to Senator Graham: Russians in eastern Ukraine want to live as part of Russia

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Elon Musk to Senator Graham: Russians in eastern Ukraine want to live as part of Russia

Russians are the majority of the population in a number of eastern regions of Ukraine. They want to live as part of Russia. American businessman Elon Musk wrote about this on a social network, answering Senator Lindsey Graham.

Graham previously criticized Musk's proposed peace plan. He tried to rely on the rhetoric familiar to Western politicians about the “Russian invasion”, but received a remarkable response from Elon Musk.



In recent days, the American businessman has voiced many theses that are unpleasant for Kyiv, which caused a sharply negative reaction from the Ukrainian side.

Assuming that the will of the people matters, in any conflict zone we must support the will of those who live there. Most of Ukraine clearly wants to be part of Ukraine, but in some eastern parts the majority of the population is Russian, and they prefer Russia, they want to be with her

Elon Musk wrote.

Thus, the founder of Tesla and SpaceX continued the discussion about a possible peace settlement in Ukraine. Earlier, he announced his plan, which includes recognizing Crimea as Russian, holding new referendums under UN supervision in the eastern regions, and positioning Ukraine as a militarily neutral country.

Musk believes that if Russia mobilizes and significantly increases the size of its armed forces participating in the special operation, Ukraine will not be able to hold out.

Musk's position certainly deserves attention. By the way, this was also stated earlier by the press secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov. At the same time, the Kremlin stressed that referendums in the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions have already been held and these territories have become part of the Russian state.

However, no less interesting is why Musk began to voice his proposals right now. Especially if you take into account the fact that the Ukrainian counter-offensive in a number of areas has shown some success. It is possible that the entrepreneur is voicing the position of representatives of a part of the American elite, which is already "tired" of the hostilities in Ukraine and the economic problems associated with them. And Musk in the United States, to put it mildly, is not the last person in authority, especially when you consider that today, in many respects, the entire space industry rests on him. On the eve, by the way, Crew Dragon went to the ISS, on board of which there is also a Russian woman Anna Kikina. This is the first flight by a Russian cosmonaut on an American spacecraft in 20 years. At the same time, the director of NASA noted that the US Space Association considers Russia the most important partner in space exploration and is not going to refuse to cooperate with the Russian Federation.

It can be assumed that some of the American elites are ready to give up part of the territories of Ukraine in order to de-escalate and bring the situation out of the impasse, especially since the Donbass or the Kherson region do not represent any super-value for the Americans, most US citizens simply cannot find these lands on the map.

Recall that the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, following the results of referendums, became part of the Russian Federation. The integration of these territories into the Russian political and legal space is already underway.
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  1. +14
    6 October 2022 08: 48
    Did our Elon Musk decide to take up politics? Politicians will devour you, oh they will devour you
    1. -1
      6 October 2022 08: 50
      Yes, to hell with it! If someone in the West suddenly said at least half a word of the truth, does that make him our friend?
      1. +26
        6 October 2022 08: 53
        It's enough that at least he's not a scoundrel.
        1. -5
          6 October 2022 09: 05
          I do beg you. they splashed honey on your ears, and you melted.
          1. +14
            6 October 2022 09: 08
            Musk expresses the mood of big business. Which generally on the drum is the essence of the conflict.
        2. +3
          6 October 2022 09: 07
          A person really looks at life, and not through the prism of "Wishlist" ...
      2. +5
        6 October 2022 10: 40
        Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
        Yes, to hell with it! If someone in the West suddenly said at least half a word of the truth, does that make him our friend?

        It doesn’t become a friend, that’s for sure, but another fact is surprising here, namely, that Musk, in addition to the ability to make money, has the skills for independent thinking, perception of the current moment and, oddly enough, knowledge of some historical facts, which is generally nonsense for the United States.
        1. +6
          6 October 2022 11: 29
          To me personally, anyone in the States who speaks in our favor -
          handsome. It's very difficult right now.
          And the fact that Musk turned out to be handsome is especially pleasing.
          Advanced in the US really listens to him.
          And pushing it is not easy at all. Yesterday Radu sent.
          All at once. For being very persistent with narratives.
      3. +1
        6 October 2022 10: 47
        Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
        Yes, to hell with it! If someone in the West suddenly said at least half a word of the truth, does that make him our friend?

        Let me tell them the truth. Elon just voiced the idea, the essence of which is to re-hold referendums under the supervision of the UN and with the involvement of citizens who left these territories, of course, with the withdrawal of troops from both sides. They want to put me down.
    2. +21
      6 October 2022 08: 53
      Quote: seregatara1969
      Did our Elon Musk decide to take up politics? Politicians will devour you, oh they will devour you

      Ilyusha is not so simple.
      And if he began to speak out on this topic, then his words have a concrete base and an iron roof.
      1. +4
        6 October 2022 09: 02
        And for sure, the "peacemaker" has a purely mercantile interest in everything else. Well, I don’t believe that a capitalist will just say a word like that, without counting on a gesheft.
        1. +9
          6 October 2022 09: 24
          He has a simple interest. Now only shale and gunsmiths earn money in the USA, the rest of the industry is dying (despite the start of the transfer of TSMC and other capacities to the states). There was a hurricane recently in the states, what is the result? But none! The authorities have not allocated a cent to the victims, and at the same time they are allocating billions to some distant Papuans from an incomprehensible Ukraine
        2. +7
          6 October 2022 09: 31
          Quote: Emergency
          Well, I don’t believe that a capitalist will just say a word like that, without counting on a gesheft.

          I assume that the gesheft is quite simple. Musk's companies rely heavily on government funding. And the money is flowing to Ukraine like a river. Taking into account the already insane public debt, there is reason to fear a cut in state support programs - except perhaps for the American military-industrial complex. So Musk became a pacifist, and on occasion he uses those reasons that are really convincing
      2. -2
        6 October 2022 09: 10
        When he was smoking a joint on Rogan's podcast, did that also have an iron roof?
        All Musk is interested in is mentioning himself and his companies online. On this, he made tens of billions.
      3. +1
        6 October 2022 09: 11
        Quote: Flood
        And if he began to speak out on this topic, then his words have a concrete base and an iron roof.

        just blackmailing Congress, asking for funding .... Or maybe a toad is strangling that a bunch of billions are passing by
      4. +1
        6 October 2022 09: 33
        Quote: Flood
        Quote: seregatara1969
        Did our Elon Musk decide to take up politics? Politicians will devour you, oh they will devour you

        Ilyusha is not so simple.
        And if he began to speak out on this topic, then his words have a concrete base and an iron roof.
        -
        Trump?
        1. 0
          6 October 2022 09: 37
          Quote: Charik
          Trump?

          Certainly there is something in common between them.
          But Trump seems too impulsive and unpredictable.
          If I were a billionaire, it would scare me more.
      5. +5
        6 October 2022 09: 54
        Now they will again say that the Russians once again interfered in the elections and appointed the Americans a new president.
        1. +1
          6 October 2022 09: 55
          Eka, surprised too.
          We've seen billionaire colonels.
    3. +1
      6 October 2022 09: 19
      Quote: seregatara1969
      Did our Elon Musk decide to take up politics? Politicians will devour you, oh they will devour you

      "Feeding hand, the dog does not bite."
    4. +1
      6 October 2022 12: 24
      Our "Masks" are also involved in politics, they take fascists to Turkey in viprais, slow down the NVO, betray the Motherland. Their Musk, at least sane things, speaks the truth, one of the few. Although, I do not exclude that all this can be an ordinary PR.
  2. +1
    6 October 2022 08: 50
    At this rate, Elon Musk will soon need Russian citizenship....
    1. +4
      6 October 2022 09: 00
      And why actually not? Era of World Reunification according to Ivan Efremov.
    2. 0
      6 October 2022 10: 13
      Why does he have Russian citizenship? He is thoroughly American! And his thoughts are American!
      Earlier, he announced his plan, which includes recognizing Crimea as Russian, holding new referendums under UN supervision in the eastern regions, and positioning Ukraine as a militarily neutral country.
      Who should recognize Crimea as Russian? Why don't they recognize it now? What referendums are under the supervision of the UN? A referendum on the participation of Russian athletes under the flag and with the anthem of Russia? A referendum on the entry of the EU into Russia? A referendum on the entry of regions into Russia? All regions of Ukraine or included in Russia? If they are part of Russia, then Russia recognizes the illegality of these referendums. A legal referendum is from the UN! And what kind of referendums were held in Ukraine? About the desire to be Ukraine, Russia, Poland, Hungary, Romania? Well? If we talk about the referendum, then give the whole alignment of proposals! Why Zelensky did not hold his own referendum? So Musk is still that cunning!
  3. +8
    6 October 2022 08: 51
    Elon Musk to Senator Graham: Russians in eastern Ukraine want to live as part of Russia
    Here he gave gas in kind ... I wonder what interest he has in Ukraine? request And most likely you need to shine with new colors and .... for the presidency of the United States! recourse
  4. +3
    6 October 2022 08: 53
    Something Elon was talking! I forgot, as soon as he hinted at supporting Trump, did he immediately have a lot of problems at the cosmodrome? And here they can completely deprive Tesla. The West defiantly showed that "freedom of speech" and "inviolability of private property" can only be with the blessing of the State Department!
    1. 0
      6 October 2022 09: 22
      Quote: Dmitry Karabanov
      And here they can completely deprive Tesla.

      They will deprive Tesla, I will drive Lisapeds.
  5. +6
    6 October 2022 08: 55
    Musk, as a businessman, simply "fixed his profits", he is a realist and simply voiced the fact of the inevitability of events. He does not get into politics, but simply makes a name for himself as a "talented businessman" at any international event, because it is realism and his voice to his clientele that allows him to successfully attract investors ... investors will not believe a person who repeats the mantras of the State Department, because they do not idiots and know what's really going on, so Musk is only a business, not support for one of the parties. And, as a brand person who receives a big state budget for cutting, he at the same time got ahead of Trump with his attempt to become a "peacemaker" in the Ukrainian issue, pushing him away from an interesting sonorous topic. By the way, in the questionnaire, Musk was supported by more than 60% in his view of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, which is indicative even for Twitter, where 30% are bots.
    1. +2
      6 October 2022 09: 37
      Elon sees perfectly well how the confrontation of the West in Ukraine against us can end. And he considers the actions of Putin V.V. knee of this empire? Doesn't it remind you of anything?
      1. +2
        6 October 2022 09: 58
        I agree! Yes, he's handsome! Ostap Suleiman Bertha-Maria-Bender bey ibn Elon Musk! A swindler of the highest tailoring in a good way! The creator of shit and sticks, the seller of "air" and ideas! Successful! Cynical, therefore, he sees that Russia cannot be put anywhere and Russia will be the main counterbalance to the United States in the world and you need to be friends and work with us, but you can’t cook porridge with China ... because China does not make discoveries in the world that the Mask needs so much for movement , and Russia is the birthplace of all those discoveries and ideas that appeal to him so much and from which he can make big money! Practice! But not our ally...
        1. +2
          6 October 2022 10: 04
          Nothing personal, just business. A mutual nuclear strike will reset everything.
          1. +2
            6 October 2022 10: 20
            In! Right! Precisely because Musk is aware of where the old seniles from the American "political elite" are leading the world, dragging it with them to the grave, he does not want to fall asleep under a nuclear mushroom and is trying to stir up the peaceful movement a little, purely because of the businessman's self-preservation instinct.
            1. +1
              6 October 2022 10: 39
              And I have a suspicion that he will succeed.
              1. +1
                6 October 2022 16: 10
                funny ... but where can the peasant go, if the Pentagon bought him a workhorse with budget money? Who feeds the girl - he dances her.
  6. -4
    6 October 2022 08: 55
    Nothing prevents today from holding referendums on UN control in Mykolaiv, Odesa, Kharkiv, etc. - the southeastern regions of the outskirts and find out the desires of citizens ...., well, according to peace ....., for the period of referenda, the military-political government of the outskirts should be transferred to the UN Interim Government ...., let the EU drive the economy, they are there they’re standing in the dressing room ...., the ursulka will destroy it .... It won’t get worse .... they have a famine there again after the autumn sale of grain ....
    1. +5
      6 October 2022 09: 09
      Quote from uprun
      for the period of referendums, the military-political government of the outskirts should be transferred to the UN Provisional Government ....,

      In no case!!!
      let the EU steer the economy, they are standing there in the dressing room ...., ursulka will destroy it.

      Let the goat into the garden
      there, the famine formed again after the autumn sale of grain ..

      They say that hungry creators have an increased incentive to create and their brains turn on. So let them experience the "holodomor" for themselves. They might come up with something positive.
      1. -4
        6 October 2022 09: 17
        They’ve been nimble in the garden for a long time ..... The Holodomor is not our method, kids are not responsible for politicians .... The UN should at least once show what it is capable of, except for a talking shop ...
        1. +2
          6 October 2022 09: 51
          Quote from uprun
          The UN should at least once show what it is capable of, except for a talking shop ...

          The UN has shown so many times that it is not capable of anything, that it is difficult to predict otherwise.
      2. +1
        6 October 2022 10: 00
        I agree, Elena, there is nothing to let the goats in ... let them transfer their dill territory to the "UN transitional government" and hold referendums on joining Russia :)), and we'll see.
  7. +3
    6 October 2022 08: 59
    Comrade Musk, of course, demonstrates miracles of ingenuity against the background of social thought rolled into asphalt in the West.
    1. +3
      6 October 2022 09: 16
      The voice of a sober, unzombified person. A billionaire is able to express his point of view on any issue. After his words, banderlogs will not fundamentally fly to the moon on his rocket.
    2. 0
      6 October 2022 10: 43
      he is primarily a PR man, it is somehow naive to argue that he is telling his personal opinion here, it looks like the next stage of bidding
  8. fiv
    0
    6 October 2022 09: 03
    Now the tax authorities, firefighters and amerpotrebnadzor will trample on him. The Securities Commission will find violations. And Ilyukha will understand - if you want to receive money from the budget - read aloud as it is written, and keep your free-thinking thoughts to yourself. He was wrong. Will be corrected.
  9. 0
    6 October 2022 09: 04
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Here he gave gas in kind ... I wonder what interest he has in Ukraine? request And most likely you need to shine with new colors and .... for the presidency of the United States! recourse

    strawberry in Kherson region))
  10. -1
    6 October 2022 09: 08
    I think the "Chief" conductor gave the command to Ilona to "sing" a solo as opposed to the orchestra and look at the reaction of the hall and the orchestra itself. Another lot of Anglo-Saxon moves.
  11. 0
    6 October 2022 09: 09
    This guy is nice because he brings all his even the most daring projects to the end. Some of them may turn out to be unclaimed, like HiperLoop, but it exists and it exists. This cannot but inspire respect. But it also gives an understanding that the word of this person is not empty, it has weight. Unlike our buffoon with Khokhloma.
    Well, Tesla cars - isn't that perfection? wink
    1. 0
      6 October 2022 09: 24
      Well, Tesla cars - isn't that perfection?

      Alas. Conventional with a piston engine carries only gasoline.
      The second component is oxygen, it takes from the air.
      in a ratio of 1 to 3. That is, with a 40 liter tank, it does not drag an extra load of 120 kg. Any battery carries both components. So if the earth runs out of oil and you have to store energy, then in the form of at least alcohol, at least synthetic gasoline. As soon as the required power exceeds 5 horses and the time is 1 hour, the electric motor with a battery loses to the internal combustion engine with a tank. Not to mention the resource and price of the battery.
      1. +1
        6 October 2022 09: 58
        Quote: dauria
        Not to mention the resource and price of the battery.

        Add also the anti-environmental nature of the battery compared to alcohol.
        drinks
        1. 0
          6 October 2022 10: 36
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          Quote: dauria
          Not to mention the resource and price of the battery.

          Add also the anti-environmental nature of the battery compared to alcohol.
          drinks

          Damn ... Here they cut it off with alcohol. You can't resist this laughing drinks
      2. +1
        6 October 2022 10: 34
        You are not consistent in your flattening - the steam engine can get water and firewood along the way. But more seriously, you criticize the electric car, being with me at the previous stage of civilization. And to see all the advantages and disadvantages of one is simply not able to. Of course, you can deny all this and consider the most technologically advanced countries in Europe, Asia and the US to be morons in the pursuit of "marketing" - many do. But you are a rather thoughtful person and suddenly climbed to object.
        Another step. From here it looks like crap.
    2. 0
      6 October 2022 09: 33
      Tesla cars - isn't that perfection?
      They flow in the rain like a Cossack.
  12. 0
    6 October 2022 09: 09
    You really don’t know where you will find, where you will lose ... It would seem that it is a showcase of the USA. Now, look you...
    However, if you think about it, the ever-memorable Andrei Dmitrievich Sakharov did what he did in his old age ... In short, great and marvelous are thy works, Lord.
  13. +6
    6 October 2022 09: 15
    Oh, Musk did not just sing such sweet praises towards Russia. The other day, British intelligence warned the ukrovermacht about a possible imminent sawing of satellites over Ukraine and adjacent territories - the Russian Aerospace Forces were put on full alert. ...... Guess three times .... which and whose satellites will be cut out?
  14. +1
    6 October 2022 09: 15
    From afar, Ilyukha enters the position of General Director of Roscosmos
  15. AAC
    0
    6 October 2022 09: 20
    most US citizens simply will not be able to find these lands on the map

    Yes, 99.999% of US citizens will not even look for Russia and Ukraine. They don't really care where it is and what's going on there.
  16. +9
    6 October 2022 09: 42
    For some reason, it seems to me that if, hypothetically, Comrade Musk is sent to negotiate with Ukraine as a representative of Russia, then there will be more sense from him than from Medinsky. At least he will not change his godfather for a dozen thugs.
  17. 0
    6 October 2022 10: 05
    you can’t trust this businessman tied to the Pentagon, and maybe the CIA ... no matter how “glorious” speeches he weaves, he says what they want to hear from him, but what really lies behind his statement?
  18. 0
    6 October 2022 10: 05
    Musk believes that if Russia mobilizes and significantly increases the size of its armed forces participating in the special operation, Ukraine will not be able to hold out. Then, with a high probability, there will be hotheads who will not want to lose for nothing and will put everything on the line. And Musk does not want his country to burn out in a nuclear conflict because of other people's ambitions. Unlike politicians, he tells the truth and what ways are possible for general reconciliation.
  19. 0
    6 October 2022 10: 09
    Elon Musk to Senator Graham: Russians in eastern Ukraine want to live as part of Russia
    . It happens ... very rich guys want to play politics, the result ... but the results are different and depend on many reasons.
  20. 0
    6 October 2022 10: 10
    Who is this Musk, Rogozin's pen pal? Musk works for DARPA. Where does Rogozin work? What do we have in near space?
  21. +2
    6 October 2022 11: 11
    It seems that he is concerned about the possible destruction of the American satellite constellation, and his own satellites, including.
  22. 0
    6 October 2022 12: 46
    +1 outskirts spawn to the peacekeeper's treasury laughing
  23. 0
    6 October 2022 23: 14
    Well, now Ilona can now be considered an agent - "Ilon MOSK" -va))
  24. 0
    7 October 2022 05: 20
    We must give him his due, that to have an excellent position in their serpentarium is already worthy of respect! And if we also take into account that this position is the most rational and reasonable of all that those in power express ...
  25. 0
    8 October 2022 08: 03
    Elon Musk speaks like a business person, that is, he sees greater prospects for enrichment in trade than in war. His voice is crying out in the deserts of the NATO countries, which, after the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, only gained their confidence in victory, but these are their galls.