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The Russian Armed Forces leveled the line of defense between Kremennaya and Svatovo, the enemy continues to pull up reserves

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The Russian Armed Forces leveled the line of defense between Kremennaya and Svatovo, the enemy continues to pull up reserves

It is still calm in the Starobelsky direction, there are no active hostilities, the enemy continues to draw up reserves, preparing to deliver a series of strikes in several sectors at once. However, ours are not asleep either, the defense is being built strong, according to all the rules. There is a long distance between us and the enemy, in some areas reaching 30 km, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are afraid of Russian artillery.


According to the Rybar TG channel, in the Kupyansk region, two battalions from the 14th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were seen moving towards Orlyanka through the gray zone. At the same time, units of the same 14th brigade are preparing to attack the positions of the Russian Armed Forces in the Tavolzhanka area, the Vushniks were reinforced by several tanks. At the same time, the enemy is afraid to attack head-on, the terrain in this area is too difficult. Several companies from the brigade have already refused to go on the offensive, declaring general fatigue.

At the same time, the concentration of forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues for a further strike on Svatovo. According to other information, the movement of Ukrainian BTGs in directions north and south of Svatovo has already begun, trying to cover Russian positions in the area. The data is confirmed that our people left Novoplatonovka, Boguslavka, Glushkovka and Kruglyakovka, which moved into the gray zone. This was done to level the defense and create a new frontier.


Svatovo is now a key city, losing which we will open the way for the enemy to Severodonetsk, Lisichansk and Rubizhne with further access to Lugansk. Therefore, ours are ready to stand to the death, waiting for the approach of the reserves.

In the Kremennaya area, too, it is relatively calm, enemy DRGs are working, the enemy is shelling the city. In the city itself, the construction of defensive structures continues, it is being prepared for a long defense. As reported from the front line, the task is to hold the enemy, wait for the reserves to approach and how to break in, going on the counteroffensive.

By the way, another unit of foreign mercenaries has been transferred to the Liman region, among which there are a lot of Arabs.
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  1. Buyan
    Buyan 5 October 2022 20: 04
    +21
    Hold on guys, it will be easier soon, we are proud of you hi
    1. ZoV
      ZoV 5 October 2022 20: 08
      -23
      Quote from Buyan
      Hold on guys, it will be easier soon, we are proud of you hi

      Something is being prepared, this is already OUR territory! The main thing is not to flog the fever, as many are forcing us to.
      We are waiting for the statement of the GDP already on the new situation.
      1. g_ae
        g_ae 5 October 2022 20: 12
        +23
        If so far it has not been for different situations, then why should it be now?
        1. dorz
          dorz 5 October 2022 20: 45
          +22
          Quote: g_ae
          If so far it has not been for different situations, then why should it be now?

          Today there was only one interesting statement

          Novak: Russia is ready to supply gas via the undamaged Nord Stream 2 pipeline. sad
          1. g_ae
            g_ae 5 October 2022 20: 54
            +20
            Well, so. Reliable partner. I'm afraid they will rush to restore themselves. Right now, and through Ukraine, they will still increase, with payment for transit. Business is business. Nothing personal. And for equipment, it's somehow.
            1. Havoc
              Havoc 6 October 2022 00: 50
              -7
              Quote: g_ae
              Well, so. Reliable partner. I'm afraid they will rush to restore themselves. Right now, and through Ukraine, they will still increase, with payment for transit. Business is business. Nothing personal. And for equipment, it's somehow.

              And what do you order to do, where to get the money, and I must say the money is not small. And the export of hydrocarbons is the main source of income for the state, and while this article is the main one, we simply cannot just turn off the tap. In fact, even schoolchildren now understand this.
              As for the equipment, they always bought it with their own money, something American, something Chinese, something from other manufacturers. Everything is selected individually.
              1. Essex62
                Essex62 6 October 2022 01: 09
                -1
                Where to get money? Do you really know where there are a lot of them?
              2. Vladimir100
                Vladimir100 6 October 2022 03: 28
                -1
                To work with pens, start to stand at the machines and on farms with fields.
                1. Analkara
                  Analkara 6 October 2022 09: 17
                  -1
                  Better wait for black engineers and lend-lease from the West wassat
                2. SOBA4TACTICMOSCOW
                  SOBA4TACTICMOSCOW 7 October 2022 11: 24
                  -1
                  They don’t disdain to throw machines only to the front, but in the “red and white” I heard the reservation is present, someone decided to take a fuselage more important than production good
              3. Stas157
                Stas157 6 October 2022 06: 46
                +1
                Quote: Havoc
                And what do you order to do, where to get the money, and I must say the money is not small

                And what will the West sell us equipment with the money received from the West? You are facing reality. We are driving resources to the West, and the West is giving us cut paper for which you can’t buy anything there.

                Quote: Havoc
                As for equipment, they always bought it with their own money, something American, something Chinese, something from other manufacturers.

                What army is this? In the American?
                1. Havoc
                  Havoc 6 October 2022 10: 44
                  0
                  Quote: Stas157
                  What army is this? In the American?

                  Well, for starters, look at the equipment of Russian MTRs, if in the subject of course.
                2. alexey sidykin
                  alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 11: 27
                  -1
                  Quote: Stas157
                  We drive resources to the West, and the West gives us cut paper for which you can’t buy anything there.

                  Are we only trading with the EU and the States?
                  Quote: Stas157
                  What army is this? In the American

                  Imagine, the Americans are issued only basic equipment. If you want something more, buy it yourself.
              4. Sevastiec
                Sevastiec 6 October 2022 10: 52
                0
                Do we really need dollars? Can't we live on rubles?
          2. Plate
            Plate 5 October 2022 21: 14
            -4
            Why do you put such a sad smiley face? First, it is obvious to everyone that Europe will refuse this. Secondly, even if it doesn’t refuse, which is VERY unlikely (they still don’t even have SP-2 certified there, and only after that), it turns out that Europe was just blabboling all this time that there was no SP-2 will, while Russia has not changed its rhetoric. Well, European money is not superfluous, yes.
          3. Turtle
            Turtle 5 October 2022 23: 01
            -6
            Quote: dorz
            Novak: Russia is ready to supply gas via the undamaged Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

            This Novak's tongue is too long. Let it roll up.
        2. flicker
          flicker 6 October 2022 12: 06
          0
          If so far it has not been for different situations, then why should it be now?
          Because we were conducting a SVO (special military operation).
          The United States, by the way, did not fight in Iraq, or in Yugoslavia, or in Afghanistan, but carried out military operations.
          ---
          The thing is that the UN Security Council can give the green light to military action (if no one vetoes it).
          The veto was most often imposed either by us or by the United States.
          So the United States circumvented this veto with the help of "Humanitarian Intervention". Like, Hussein is pressing the Kurds and the United States is starting a military operation (Not a war, but an operation) in order to stop discrimination against the Kurds.
          Those. military operation (has a number of restrictions compared to war) as a way to circumvent the UN Security Council veto.
          ---
          We started the SVO with the aim of protecting the DPR and LPR, as well as forcing Ukraine to abandon the Bandera ideology, which involves disarmament (denazification and demilitarization).
          ---
          After the LPR, DPR, parts of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions became part of Russia, any shelling of them is ALREADY an attack on Russia, and this is ALREADY the basis for declaring war on Ukraine. This means that we have the right to carry out the destruction of enemy infrastructure, as well as some objects of the countries of the enemy's accomplices.
          ---
          So now at any moment we can move from NWO to War.
      2. Sergei V
        Sergei V 5 October 2022 20: 18
        +10
        Today they have already explained to you that everything is going according to plan and can somehow resolve itself. What else are you waiting for?
      3. Yapet100
        Yapet100 5 October 2022 20: 24
        +9
        And what will be his statement? Did he comment on something earlier - he declared - when we rolled back under the onslaught of banderlogs ???
      4. Turtle
        Turtle 5 October 2022 23: 10
        +5
        Quote from ZOV
        We are waiting for the statement of the GDP already on the new situation.

        There were enough statements.
        1. About decision-making centers.
        2. About the consequences, in case of intervention, which no one has yet encountered.
        3. About the fact that they haven’t really started anything yet.

        Enough for me to have an unambiguous attitude.
        1. IvanSviridov
          IvanSviridov 6 October 2022 02: 09
          -4
          You know, it's like with financial "pyramids" - everyone has already understood everything, but there are always people shouting loudly that "now is the time to invest." laughing
      5. dauria
        dauria 5 October 2022 23: 28
        0
        We are waiting for the statement of the GDP already on the new situation.

        Here they are attached ... Yes, he, too, is waiting for the masters of Russia to tell him what to do. Forbes publishes their list constantly, and ask them. True, they have no time now - panic, who will sell the others faster, will be the first to go over and save the jam with cookies.
        And Putin is only responsible for order, well, there "so that girls are not offended." Mosol Katyusha.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 5 October 2022 20: 16
      +20
      That is, speaking in a normal language, our troops retreated again? Why do we easily abandon cities that the enemy turns into fortifications, which we then storm for months? Why didn't we build defensive structures in the same Krasny Liman when the retreat stops? After all, 300000 mobilized people are not enough, this will only be enough to plug holes in the defense, hundreds of thousands more people are needed for the subsequent offensive!
      1. impostor
        impostor 5 October 2022 20: 56
        -1
        One of the reasons is lack of unity of command in LBS. I will give an example for obvious reasons without specific names. Defense Ministry units blew up the bridge during the retreat. A detachment of the RG from one of the Caucasian republics remained on the other side. They did not receive an order to retreat in a timely manner, they had to break through with a fight, here are the shots - they are walking in a chain, walking around the battalion there. The next frames are the hospital, those who managed to break through, there was a separation from the force. The next shots are the presentation of "muzhiks", in the dark, the name of the person called out of action for delivery sounds, the one who told me this story has the same surname, a different name ... hi
      2. Sergey985
        Sergey985 5 October 2022 20: 58
        +18
        I can't understand one thing. Where is our army? Why all the hope for the mobilized? All this rearmament, numerous exercises, the latest technology (including electronic warfare)? We do not have 1941, when we lost the pre-war army in battles, and everything fell on the shoulders of the mobilized. This is not a denigration of our Armed Forces, this is a question.
        1. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 6 October 2022 03: 20
          +2
          Quote: Sergey985
          Where is our army?

          And she was? Remember, they still shouted: "- why do we need an army in the age of nuclear weapons?" "- we need a small professional army - the world is!" etc.
          They shouted. request
          1. alexey sidykin
            alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 11: 32
            0
            Quote: Misha Honest
            Quote: Sergey985
            Where is our army?

            And she was? Remember, they still shouted: "- why do we need an army in the age of nuclear weapons?" "- we need a small professional army - the world is!" etc.
            They shouted. request

            And after all, how did they argue that in the 22nd century a large army is not needed, this is the last century and wars will be fought in small groups.
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 6 October 2022 07: 27
          0
          Quote: Sergey985
          I can't understand one thing. Where is our army? Why all the hope for the mobilized?

          And where are our three hundred thousand Russian guardsmen? Why all the hope for the mobilized?
      3. Plate
        Plate 5 October 2022 21: 17
        +3
        Quote: Thrifty
        Why do we leave cities so easily

        What about standing to the death? If you objectively cannot hold a position, leave it, playing a brave "hero to the end" game will still not win the war, and someone needs to fight the enemy.
        1. Edas
          Edas 5 October 2022 22: 22
          -3
          And so on to Moscow, and there are a lot of majors, they will rush to the Armed Forces of Ukraine like animals
      4. kapitan92
        kapitan92 5 October 2022 21: 30
        +9
        Quote: Thrifty
        After all, 300000 mobilized people are not enough, this will only be enough to plug holes in the defense, hundreds of thousands more people are needed for the subsequent offensive!

        hi
        Unfortunately, this is really not enough, to stabilize the front and plug holes in the defense. So it seems to me that this mobilization is not the last.
        By the way, another unit of foreign mercenaries has been transferred to the Liman region, among which there are a lot of Arabs.

        I remember the materials of our Defense Ministry, where they showed how the "Syrian brothers" were eager to fight on our side and .......... silence. Further, North Korea offered up to 100 thousand trained fighters and .......... silence again.
        There, in the Kremlin, they cannot deal with each other, and therefore the mess reigns!
      5. guest
        guest 5 October 2022 22: 44
        -4
        Well, now, for starters, the most important thing is to keep the defense, and only when you finally manage to completely suppress their offensive, you can think about your own.
    3. Cheburek
      Cheburek 5 October 2022 21: 18
      -14
      Have you personally gone to them to give valuable advice?
    4. Patorn67
      Patorn67 6 October 2022 17: 31
      0
      Which is easier? The tops merge the war, demand negotiations.
  2. dnestr74
    dnestr74 5 October 2022 20: 04
    +11
    Defense must be active!!! Otherwise it will end badly.
    1. ZoV
      ZoV 5 October 2022 20: 09
      -8
      Quote: dnestr74
      Defense must be active!!! Otherwise it will end badly.

      Not always, especially if reserves accumulate, etc. To strike in different directions. hi
      1. Hanurik
        Hanurik 5 October 2022 20: 38
        +8
        In our age - always. And then he will cover with artillery and drones, the DRG will arrive, cut out the rest and go to the rear. Ours in the Second World War won not in defense, but incessant counterattacks, breaking the Wehrmacht's entire pace of the offensive. You sit on the defensive - you give the enemy all the initiative.
  3. Vic Vic
    Vic Vic 5 October 2022 20: 05
    +13
    "... ours are ready to stand to the death, waiting for the approach of the reserves."
    Are our reserves on foot from Vladivostok?
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 5 October 2022 20: 16
      +5
      Quote from vicvic
      Are our reserves on foot from Vladivostok?

      They are waiting for the line of defense to "finally level out". am
      1. private person
        private person 5 October 2022 20: 41
        +1
        They are waiting for the line of defense to "finally level out".

        Along the border of the Russian Federation before the referenda?
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 5 October 2022 21: 36
          -1
          Quote: private person
          They are waiting for the line of defense to "finally level out".

          Along the border of the Russian Federation before the referenda?

          Yes.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 October 2022 22: 17
      -4
      Quote from vicvic
      Are our reserves on foot from Vladivostok?

      Do you think that those mobilized to the front line should be sent directly from the military registration and enlistment office, without giving time for retraining? The decree on mobilization was signed just two weeks ago.
  4. Arsi55
    Arsi55 5 October 2022 20: 06
    -1
    Alas, Tavolzhanka has already been taken, there is a photo with a flag on the network
    1. UVB
      UVB 5 October 2022 20: 18
      -7
      Quote: Arsi55
      Alas, Tavolzhanka has already been taken
      They didn’t take it, but occupied the one left without a fight, which was probably the right decision in this situation.
      1. Hanurik
        Hanurik 5 October 2022 20: 41
        +17
        If ours leave the NP without a fight, this means only one thing - command and control of the troops is lost, the units do not support each other and are forced to retreat under the threat of encirclement. Which means only one thing - the high command is discredited and is subject to recall from their posts with a subsequent tribunal.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 6 October 2022 07: 25
          0
          no one wants to die standing to death for the village
        2. Patorn67
          Patorn67 6 October 2022 17: 37
          0
          Maybe everything was meant to be, everything goes according to plan?
  5. Blackmokona
    Blackmokona 5 October 2022 20: 08
    +8
    leveled the line of defense

    The next phrase describing the next retreats was already predicted in the comments on Top.War. It came true exactly.
  6. Dartanian
    Dartanian 5 October 2022 20: 08
    +1
    The Arabs were transferred .... Aborigines were not transferred from the Andaman Islands ?! What the hell they write sometimes. Does anyone else believe in fairy tales that it is not the "brotherly" people who are fighting .... And there is nothing to feel sorry for them, they took pity ...
    1. IvanSviridov
      IvanSviridov 6 October 2022 02: 12
      -1
      So maybe "our" Arabs? They promised tens of thousands of hardened volunteer fighters from Syria and Yemen.
      1. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 11: 40
        -1
        Who promised? No one from the government or the Ministry of Defense has said this ...
  7. Nickelium
    Nickelium 5 October 2022 20: 08
    +10
    We align everything, regroup, retreat. When will we attack? Putin, if now you don’t have your own ready forces, ask Kimushka. It is a shame not to ask for a favor, but to surrender Russian territories and give people to be torn to pieces by nonhumans.
  8. Normann
    Normann 5 October 2022 20: 08
    +23
    Building a defensive line under enemy fire is know-how. apparently, for several months they thought that they would throw apples at us, and we would throw hats at them, since there are plenty of them (especially gifted) in the ministry, as well as hats.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 5 October 2022 22: 22
      -6
      Quote: Normann
      Building a defensive line under enemy fire is know-how.

      Who said under fire?
      There is a long distance between us and the enemy, in some areas reaching 30 km,
      1. IvanSviridov
        IvanSviridov 6 October 2022 02: 15
        -3
        The author said: "The enemy is shelling the city. The construction of defensive structures continues in the city itself"
  9. Skipper
    Skipper 5 October 2022 20: 13
    -22
    There is a very reasonable analytics of what is happening and why Putin and the General Staff are behaving this way ....
    1. Dmitry Karabanov
      Dmitry Karabanov 5 October 2022 20: 58
      -1
      It would be nice if "everything goes according to plan" ...
      1. IvanSviridov
        IvanSviridov 6 October 2022 02: 16
        -1
        How else can it be? smile
    2. Former soldier
      Former soldier 5 October 2022 21: 00
      +2
      Very interesting and corresponds to reality ... up to half. But when discussions about a cunning well-thought-out plan begin, frames from the film 17 Moments of Spring come to mind. An old woman plays chess with Stirlitz in a cafe. She tells him that she will play the defense of Karakan, but asks him not to interfere with her in this.
      What am I for? Any plan, except for its own wishes, must take into account the possible opposition of the enemy, and the most unexpected and terrible. In order to implement the plan set out by the author of the video for exhausting the West, a protracted NWO, a very strong military-industrial rear is needed.
    3. Hypertension
      Hypertension 5 October 2022 21: 08
      +23
      Quote: Skipper
      There are very reasonable analytics

      Who is too lazy to spend 25 minutes on "very reasonable analytics", in short: Putin is a genius, outplays everyone; no need to panic; it would be good for the people to believe in the genius of Putin - he calculated everything; ahead is a war with Europe / NATO, but we will win, because "everything is taken into account by a mighty hurricane."
      In general - "old songs about the Main" ...
      1. IvanSviridov
        IvanSviridov 6 October 2022 02: 17
        0
        Well, how? By all means. We are all as one. And - for the leader to the bright end.
      2. Patorn67
        Patorn67 6 October 2022 17: 39
        0
        How many lives will need to be lost for this ingenious plan?
        1. SARMAT123
          SARMAT123 6 October 2022 18: 09
          0
          Yes, but it is completely possible to achieve the goal
    4. Entropy
      Entropy 5 October 2022 21: 16
      +6
      "We deliberately drag out the war and show ourselves weak so that NATO sends more weapons to Ukraine and demilitarizes"

      yeah, of course, they disposed of a bunch of old Soviet equipment and queued up to order new ones from the United States, and in the meantime we are losing regular troops and equipment in these "giveaways", wonderful tactics

      Mobilization was not carried out, because the industry was launched

      Well, that is, we understood everything, but for 5 months we didn’t teach fighters (at least on old equipment and weapons, but even corny physical training and the mathematical part), but called them up at the last moment and sent them somehow prepared, because the industry was preparing (which still didn’t turn out to be ready)

      here it doesn’t smell of reason, but of the author’s fantasies, a lot of text - a lot of conclusions, but at least there are no justifications for such conclusions, a continuous stream of consciousness
    5. SARMAT123
      SARMAT123 6 October 2022 18: 06
      0
      This version is in place. I just recently thought about this "over a cup of Baileys." Here you can immediately find answers to all questions, right up to the Nord Stream! There is a subtle political game going on! Of course, the risk associated with casualties, both civilian and military, is present, but to achieve the goal, it can be completely! As blasphemous as it may sound
  10. Sergei V
    Sergei V 5 October 2022 20: 17
    +13
    "waiting for the approach of the reserves" Somewhere I heard this more than once. Will they all not reach it?
    1. Vitaly161
      Vitaly161 5 October 2022 20: 29
      -13
      why, but units of the 58th army did not come to Liman? without them, the case would have ended with a boiler
      1. Patorn67
        Patorn67 6 October 2022 17: 42
        0
        2 weeks passed, apparently the horses were harnessed for a long time.
    2. Yapet100
      Yapet100 5 October 2022 20: 34
      +2
      I don’t understand why military exercises were repeatedly conducted, during which large groups of our troops were transferred, if we are waiting for reinforcements for so long ???? But they even landed on the Pole ... So what of this ??? And the fact that there are no reinforcements every time ... Longing ((((
      1. Sid2014
        Sid2014 5 October 2022 20: 46
        +12
        It's just that all combat-ready units are thoroughly thinned out by Ukrainians.
  11. Boycott
    Boycott 5 October 2022 20: 21
    -23
    Cry from the heart: Commentary feeds flooded with ukrobots and alarmists. It hurts my eyes to look at the all-proper cries of these antipodes of hat throwers. Nothing has been lost yet, the potential of Ukraine is incomparable with the Russian one, it is only necessary to dispose of it correctly. How Russia is preparing to break the situation specifically, no one knows on the Internet, but everyone is yelling. And I just believe on the basis of historical experience that our people will correct all mistakes, roll up their sleeves and do a good deed, destroy another Nazi regime.
    1. Sergei V
      Sergei V 5 October 2022 20: 24
      +6
      To do this, you need to start to really fight, and not like in the Kremlin for half a dozen. One step forward, two steps back
      1. sheet
        sheet 5 October 2022 21: 18
        -1
        Quote: Sergey V
        To do this, you need to start to really fight, and not like in the Kremlin for half a dozen. One step forward, two steps back

        So start, seryozha, for all your bump. In two strokes you will reach Kiev.
        1. Sergei V
          Sergei V 5 October 2022 21: 26
          -7
          From the female sex, this sounds ambiguous. How old are you Natalie? If more than 35, then do not offer, although I am already 60. I love young
          1. sheet
            sheet 5 October 2022 21: 53
            +1
            Quote: Sergey V
            Even though I'm already 60.

            Now it’s clear about the “half-knee” - there is no more lol
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 5 October 2022 20: 34
      +10
      Quote: BoyCat
      Ukraine's potential is incomparable with Russia's, you just need to use it correctly.

      For the eighth month, they manage the potential, they don’t see much sense.
      1. culinary
        culinary 5 October 2022 21: 15
        +8
        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: BoyCat
        Ukraine's potential is incomparable with Russia's, you just need to use it correctly.

        For the eighth month, they manage the potential, they don’t see much sense.

        Israel and the Arabs also had incomparable potential. Israel lives and "nightmare" neighbors.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 5 October 2022 21: 26
          -4
          Quote: kulinar
          Israel and the Arabs also had incomparable potential.

          We have, as it were, a fraternal people in mentality and development, unlike the Israelis and the Arabs.
          1. Nickelium
            Nickelium 5 October 2022 22: 16
            +1
            Arabs and Jews are 2 branches of the same group. Hebrew is the same Arabic. So it's a question of who is closer: Russians with Ukrainians or Arabs with Jews. Have you heard of the Semitic group? It includes both Arabs and Jews.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 5 October 2022 22: 40
              -1
              Quote: Nickelium
              Have you heard of the Semitic group? It includes both Arabs and Jews.

              I am reluctant to climb into religious jungle-nonsense.
              1. Essex62
                Essex62 6 October 2022 01: 27
                +3
                So we have the same song. There are no Ukrainians in nature. Russians and we and they. This is a civil war. Zapadentsy-Bandera managed to get the South Russian population in processing. We are self-destructing. Naglo-Saxons pee with boiling water from happiness, the goal is close. There it is true, where we have drilled holes, they will have to deal with others who are thirsty, and those are one and a half lard. We will have to decompose again, like the USSR. So that they will not soon reach our buns.
                1. Nickelium
                  Nickelium 6 October 2022 03: 41
                  -2
                  Is there an onir? For example, the Hutsuls - who are they? And the Lemkos with the Rusyns?
                  Error again. The South Russian population was treated by their own high-ranking fools. Westerners helped them, but did not play a key role. Most ukropolitikov - natives of Vostochka. And you say - Westerners. Those would sit on the priest exactly if Romanov was instead of a sika deer.
                  1. Essex62
                    Essex62 6 October 2022 10: 00
                    0
                    Politicians do not determine vectors and directions, they only shape
                    them in the proper wrapper, defines the ruling class.
                    1. Nickelium
                      Nickelium 6 October 2022 15: 42
                      0
                      Just defined. They have enough forces and means to crush the movement they do not like.
                      1. Essex62
                        Essex62 6 October 2022 20: 00
                        0
                        They can’t fucking do it if the real owner, a money bag, doesn’t give a command for action. All modern politicians are dependent puppets. Everywhere except possibly North Korea.
              2. Nickelium
                Nickelium 6 October 2022 03: 37
                -1
                Nobody wants. But a Serb and a Croat and a Jew and an Arab fight to the death.
            2. alexey sidykin
              alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 11: 44
              -1
              Psheks and I are also close relatives ... and what of it? And yes, Hebrew and Arabic, although close, are different languages ​​between them for several thousand years. And also the Hutsuls, and the Lemkos, these are the Rusyns.
              1. Nickelium
                Nickelium 6 October 2022 15: 43
                0
                No no. Hutsuls and Lemkos are definitely not Rusyns. Never.
                1. alexey sidykin
                  alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 21: 25
                  -1
                  No, they belong to the Rusyns. Rusyns are also not homogeneous and are divided into several groups:
                  Boikos, Lemkos, Podolians, Hutsuls, Pokutians, Verkhovynians ...
                  1. Nickelium
                    Nickelium 6 October 2022 23: 27
                    0
                    Hutsuls and Lemkos said so? What are they - these are Rusyns?
                    1. alexey sidykin
                      alexey sidykin 7 October 2022 12: 53
                      0
                      That's right ... just like our Pomortsy and Cossacks and other regional groups.
                      1. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 7 October 2022 16: 23
                        0
                        Not certainly in that way. Pomors (namely Pomors) are Russians mixed with the Finnish peoples who lived there, but retained Russian culture. The Cossacks are runaway Slavs, mixed with a Turkic and Caucasian element, but also retaining Russian culture. But the Cossacks had nothing to do with the population of Podolia and Volhynia.
                      2. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 8 October 2022 12: 05
                        0
                        If the Pomors mixed up, then not with the Finns, but also with the Paleo-Europeans there, the share with the Finno-Ugric genes is very insignificant with the Don Cossacks, the same garbage. But the Cossacks are just a mixture of various peoples ... and what does Podolia and Volyn have to do with it ...
                      3. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 8 October 2022 16: 25
                        0
                        That's what I'm saying. And here Volyn and Podolia with Zaporozhye?
                      4. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 9 October 2022 16: 05
                        0
                        Well, since you mentioned them, you probably should know why you mentioned them ...
                      5. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 9 October 2022 18: 01
                        0
                        Well, I know that. And you ? Do you also own a secret that is inaccessible to others?
                      6. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 9 October 2022 21: 45
                        0
                        About mysterious secrets, this is not for me. I'm not into that.
                      7. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 9 October 2022 22: 07
                        0
                        Well, yes. You are exclusively Biarmia, Belovodie, Paramaa Kama.
                      8. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 10 October 2022 13: 18
                        0
                        I already understood that you have a good fantasy ...
                      9. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 10 October 2022 16: 14
                        0
                        Where am I to you! It's you - Wells, Bradbury and Belyaev in a bottle.
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    4. Evergreen
      Evergreen 5 October 2022 21: 00
      +6
      If your eyes hurt, then no one will force you to believe in what you read.
      You have your own truth, others have a different one. Pluralism is normal
      1. Boycott
        Boycott 5 October 2022 21: 29
        -8
        You have your own truth, others have a different one. Pluralism is normal
        Here they are, the fruits of liberalism. The truth is always the same, the cloudless sky is blue, if someone says otherwise, he is either sick (color blind) or just lying. But I'm not going to argue and convince anyone, life will judge that the truth, practice is the criterion of truth.
    5. Plate
      Plate 5 October 2022 21: 23
      +1
      Quote: BoyCat
      Ukraine's potential is incomparable with Russia's

      Right. Russia is capable of crushing a country like Ukraine 2-3 times. But there is one moment. Only officially Ukraine was helped in various ways for an amount exceeding the entire annual defense budget of Russia.
    6. Alexander Emrys
      Alexander Emrys 5 October 2022 21: 26
      +4
      Nothing has been lost yet, the potential of Ukraine is incomparable with the Russian one, it is only necessary to dispose of it correctly.


      You decide on the potential with whom Russia is fighting - with Ukraine or NATO. if the second, then the potential is not comparable in the opposite direction
      1. Nickelium
        Nickelium 5 October 2022 22: 19
        -9
        The disparity in conventional weapons is equalized by the nucleus. And then it depends on our leadership when it wakes up.
        There, the British threw the insider to the Sumerians that the Russian Aerospace Forces received the right to shoot down satellites over Sumeria. I don't know if this is true or not.
        1. Alexander Emrys
          Alexander Emrys 5 October 2022 23: 01
          +6
          Quote: Nickelium
          The disparity in conventional weapons is equalized by the nucleus. And then it depends on our leadership when it wakes up.
          There, the British threw the insider to the Sumerians that the Russian Aerospace Forces received the right to shoot down satellites over Sumeria. I don't know if this is true or not.


          how will the nucleus equalize? the whole world in ruins? so it is when all is lost and all that remains is revenge.
          tactical nuclear - to poison their own territories (because the wind rose is not very successful for us) plus get a complete blockade, even the DPRK will turn away. then NATO will rejoice
          1. Sasha Veter
            Sasha Veter 5 October 2022 23: 56
            -3
            even the DPRK will turn its back


            It is unlikely that they shoot people from anti-aircraft guns.
          2. Havoc
            Havoc 6 October 2022 01: 20
            -2
            Quote: Alexander Emrys
            Quote: Nickelium
            The disparity in conventional weapons is equalized by the nucleus. And then it depends on our leadership when it wakes up.
            There, the British threw the insider to the Sumerians that the Russian Aerospace Forces received the right to shoot down satellites over Sumeria. I don't know if this is true or not.


            how will the nucleus equalize? the whole world in ruins? so it is when all is lost and all that remains is revenge.
            tactical nuclear - to poison their own territories (because the wind rose is not very successful for us) plus get a complete blockade, even the DPRK will turn away. then NATO will rejoice

            Do you really believe that the United States will take the side of Europe in a nuclear conflict, this is not why all this was started. The main task is the economic collapse of Europe, followed by the introduction of the Marshall Plan 2, in 47 they didn’t do it badly, and the 30 trillion debt must be somehow eliminated, otherwise the US economy itself will crumble sooner or later. The US has no allies, they have only their own interests, they themselves declare this.
            1. Alexander Emrys
              Alexander Emrys 6 October 2022 02: 14
              0
              Quote: Havoc
              Do you really believe that the United States will take the side of Europe in a nuclear conflict, this is not why all this was started. The main task is the economic collapse of Europe, followed by the introduction of the Marshall Plan 2, in 47 they didn’t do it badly, and the 30 trillion debt must be somehow eliminated, otherwise the US economy itself will crumble sooner or later. The US has no allies, they have only their own interests, they themselves declare this.


              Europe is a key element of Pax Americana, so the Americans will not leave it to its fate.
              And in general, I remember, there were many forecasts in the VO in the same vein "the Americans will leave Ukraine, they will not risk butting heads with nuclear Russia." As you can see, they didn't quit. If only because the American Empire is not ruled by idiots and cowards and they understand that while the war is being waged by the hands of Ukrainians or Europeans, American guys do not die and military spending is lower, which means it makes sense to take risks. Therefore, at one time the United States did not abandon the USSR, China and Great Britain, investing huge funds in them through lend-lease. All this was and is in the interests of America.
              1. Havoc
                Havoc 6 October 2022 10: 50
                0
                Quote: Alexander Emrys
                Quote: Havoc
                Do you really believe that the United States will take the side of Europe in a nuclear conflict, this is not why all this was started. The main task is the economic collapse of Europe, followed by the introduction of the Marshall Plan 2, in 47 they didn’t do it badly, and the 30 trillion debt must be somehow eliminated, otherwise the US economy itself will crumble sooner or later. The US has no allies, they have only their own interests, they themselves declare this.


                Europe is a key element of Pax Americana, so the Americans will not leave it to its fate.
                And in general, I remember, there were many forecasts in the VO in the same vein "the Americans will leave Ukraine, they will not risk butting heads with nuclear Russia." As you can see, they didn't quit. If only because the American Empire is not ruled by idiots and cowards and they understand that while the war is being waged by the hands of Ukrainians or Europeans, American guys do not die and military spending is lower, which means it makes sense to take risks. Therefore, at one time the United States did not abandon the USSR, China and Great Britain, investing huge funds in them through lend-lease. All this was and is in the interests of America.

                So helping with money is Marshall's plan, to develop its economy, and most importantly for the United States, so that not a single bomb or missile arrives on US territory.
                1. Alexander Emrys
                  Alexander Emrys 7 October 2022 16: 12
                  0
                  Quote: Havoc
                  So helping with money is Marshall's plan, to develop its economy, and most importantly for the United States, so that not a single bomb or missile arrives on US territory.


                  America does not need a new Marshall Plan for Europe, Europe already belongs to the Americans, and European capital is closely merged with American capital. The US Army is stationed in most of the NATO countries, and is usually paid for by the country of stationing. Therefore, the loss of Europe will not add anything to the star-striped wallet, but will seriously decrease it.
                  And that is why the United States will not abandon Europe.
                  1. Havoc
                    Havoc 7 October 2022 21: 29
                    0
                    Quote: Alexander Emrys
                    And that is why the United States will not abandon Europe

                    Well, well, they probably thought so in South Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan.
                    Quote: Alexander Emrys

                    America does not need a new Marshall Plan for Europe

                    How would you write off trillions of debts, the bubble will collapse someday anyway.
                    1. Alexander Emrys
                      Alexander Emrys 8 October 2022 01: 08
                      -1
                      [quote = Havoc] [quote = Alexander Emris] And that is why the United States will not leave Europe [/ quote]
                      Well, well, they probably thought so in South Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. [/ Quote]

                      Let me remind you that in South Vietnam the United States fought for it for almost ten years at first. in Afghanistan, the local government was not particularly pro-American all the time, and then it was also kept for decades. Russia is guaranteed not to withstand ten years of direct military confrontation with the West, this is not the USSR.

                      [quote = Alexander Emrys]
                      America does not need a new Marshall Plan for Europe [/ quote]
                      How do you think they will write off trillions of debts, the bubble will someday collapse anyway. [/ Quote]

                      There are no difficulties in this write-off, America owes most of this money to itself, external debt accounts for about a quarter of it. Moreover, America itself decides what interest to pay, if they want, they will introduce negative rates and the debt will be written off by itself. It will be more difficult to take a new one in this situation, but there will be Nabiullins who will convince their authorities that this is also a profitable investment, is it in vain that Yale institutes are graduating
                      1. Havoc
                        Havoc 8 October 2022 15: 09
                        0
                        Quote: Alexander Emrys

                        There are no difficulties in this write-off, America owes most of this money to itself, external debt accounts for about a quarter of it. Moreover, America itself decides what interest to pay, if they want, they will introduce negative rates and the debt will be written off by itself. It will be more difficult to take a new one in this situation, but there will be Nabiullins who will convince their authorities that this is also a profitable investment, is it in vain that Yale institutes are graduating

                        Stunned you are an economist, do not write what you absolutely do not understand.
                      2. Alexander Emrys
                        Alexander Emrys 8 October 2022 15: 41
                        -1
                        you, of course, have a cool understanding, and therefore limited yourself to an excuse, without objecting to anything on the merits, which is very significant
                      3. Havoc
                        Havoc 8 October 2022 16: 47
                        0
                        Quote: Alexander Emrys
                        you, of course, have a cool understanding, and therefore limited yourself to an excuse, without objecting to anything on the merits, which is very significant

                        What should I explain and explain to you in essence, economics is a science that has been read for five years, and here I must explain to you in a nutshell. 38-40% of more than 30 trillion US dollars is owed to foreign investors who have invested in government securities of this country. trillion.
          3. IvanSviridov
            IvanSviridov 6 October 2022 02: 24
            0
            Quote: Alexander Emrys
            poison their own territories (because the wind rose is not very successful for us) plus get a complete blockade, even the DPRK will turn away. then NATO will rejoice

            So when will it be? A week later, not before. But the first feeling will be strong, joyful and satisfying.
            1. Nickelium
              Nickelium 6 October 2022 03: 27
              -3
              It is possible to poison territories with simple chemistry. And what will be the impact of tactics on the environment - no one knows. So do not rush to joyfully run after hryvnia.
          4. Nickelium
            Nickelium 6 October 2022 03: 25
            -3
            Do not laugh about the complete blockade. Half of the blockade will hide in holes. The second half will pretend that nothing happened. Why would North Korea turn away. We are not beating near their territory, but they have not been guided by the hegemon for a long time.
    7. IvanSviridov
      IvanSviridov 6 October 2022 02: 20
      -2
      Quote: BoyCat
      Nothing has been lost yet, the potential of Ukraine is incomparable with the Russian one, it is only necessary to dispose of it correctly.

      To tell the truth, even this phrase of yours sounds somehow ambiguous. You yourself are not an agent of Sigurantsa? smile
  12. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 5 October 2022 20: 23
    +2
    a lot of Arabs.
    The opinion of the Nazis from the National Battalions about such "comrades in arms" is interesting laughing .
    1. Alexander Emrys
      Alexander Emrys 5 October 2022 21: 29
      +3
      The grand mufti of Jerusalem was a personal guest of Hitler, they got along well on the basis of anti-Semitism
      1. Nickelium
        Nickelium 5 October 2022 22: 20
        -4
        Anti-Semitism - hatred of the Semitic peoples, which include the Arabs. Hatred of Jews is called Judeophobia. Be more precise in the wording.
        1. Alexander Emrys
          Alexander Emrys 5 October 2022 23: 03
          0
          Quote: Nickelium
          Anti-Semitism - hatred of the Semitic peoples, which include the Arabs. Hatred of Jews is called Judeophobia. Be more precise in the wording.

          I use the most commonly accepted meaning of the word "anti-Semitism". but, if you want, you can use "Judophobia"
          1. Nickelium
            Nickelium 6 October 2022 02: 29
            +1
            If the common people err, then one should not err with them. Thank God, Slavic, Semitic, and Germanic peoples passed through my school. Therefore, I focus not on the generally accepted, but on the knowledge gained. It's like calling any black man an African American. But what does the French Negro have to do with America. This is also kind of common. And it’s also common to hold gay pride parades and drag a black man into any series. This I mean that what is generally accepted - does not mean right. For the most part, a person uses information from the TV, and not from the Great Soviet Encyclopedia.
            1. Alexander Emrys
              Alexander Emrys 6 October 2022 02: 38
              -2
              Russian universal encyclopedias
              Brockhaus-Efron and the Great Soviet Encyclopedia
              combined vocabulary





              Anti-Semitism, one of the forms of national and religious intolerance, expressed in a hostile attitude towards Jews. Arabism has taken various forms in the course of history, from religious and psychological prejudice and segregation, which manifested itself mainly in the sphere of domestic relations, to the policy pursued by state bodies and the forcible expulsion of Jews and even their physical extermination (genocide). A. is a social phenomenon used by the ruling exploiting classes for various purposes - political, economic, to incite nationalist sentiments, to distract the working people from the struggle for the solution of fundamental social problems. For centuries, the social discontent of the masses, entangled in religious and ethnic prejudices, was deliberately directed into the channel of A..

              The historical roots of A. go back to antiquity, when the Jews, as a result of the diaspora, found themselves in the new countries of their settlement in the position of a national-religious minority. Their religion - Judaism - with its cult and everyday attitudes, the proclamation of the Jews as a people, "chosen by God", etc., sharply isolated them from the surrounding population. For many centuries, socio-religious A. was the most clearly expressed type of A. Hostility towards Jews as non-Christians was supported in Christian countries by all sorts of fabrications: churchmen accused the Jews of the ritual murder of Christ, of killing Christian children and using their blood to make Easter bread, in the desecration of Christian shrines, etc. The socio-economic motives of A. were due to the fact that the Jews, who concentrated their activities mainly on trade, usury, and handicrafts, as commodity-money relations developed, became serious competitors to the local (non-Jewish) trade and handicraft population. In antiquity, one of the most well-known manifestations of A. was the persecution of the Jews in the 1st century. n. e. in Alexandria, Antioch and other centers of the Roman Empire. In the Middle Ages, a sharp increase in agronomy in Western Europe was observed from the end of the 11th to the 12th centuries. in connection with the growth of religious intolerance during the crusades (Jewish pogroms perpetrated by the crusaders on the way to the East) and especially from the 13th to 14th centuries, in the conditions of the rapid development of commodity-money relations. A. was expressed not only in the segregation of Jews (the prohibition of marriages between Jews and Christians, the restriction of everyday communication between them, for which Jews were forced to wear special clothes or distinctive signs on it, to live in special quarters, which later became known as ghettos), in their legal lack of rights with the Christian population, but also in the expulsion (full or partial) of Jews from a number of Western European countries (from England in 1290, from France in 1394, from Spain in 1492, etc.); the persecution of the Jews was used by the feudal lords and the church to seize their wealth.

              As a result of the bourgeois revolutions of the 16th-19th centuries. medieval legal restrictions on the Jews were abolished. However, already in the last third of the 19th century. in the conditions of economic crises of the 70-80s. and the mass ruin of the petty bourgeoisie, a new wave of A. is observed, which was now reinforced by the myth of the guilt of the Jews in the economic and political instability of life; petty-bourgeois opposition to big capital was directed in the direction of A., which was accompanied by social demagogy. The anti-Semitic movement reached particular strength in Germany and Austria-Hungary, where the leaders of the Christian Social parties (A. Stöcker in Germany, K. Lueger in Austria-Hungary) became its heralds. At this time, for the first time, the term "A." (emphasized hostility towards Jews belonging to the so-called Semitic peoples). In 1882, the first international anti-Semitic congress took place in Dresden. Attempts to strengthen A. met with opposition from progressive forces (for example, in France during the Dreyfus Affair, see the Dreyfus Affair). From the end of the 19th century The struggle against Algeria was complicated by the spread of Zionism, which was becoming more and more reactionary. Today Zionism is an ideology, a ramified system of organizations, a political practice of the big Jewish bourgeoisie, merged with the monopoly circles of the USA and other imperialist powers; the main content of modern Zionism, which ignores the true interests of the Jewish people, is ardent chauvinism and vicious anti-communism. The Zionist leaders, who developed ideas about the "eternity" of A., calling for the isolation of the Jews themselves from other peoples, practically strengthened and strengthened A. and use it in their own interests.

              In Russia A. was essentially a recognized state doctrine; Jews (unbaptized) were limited here in their place of residence (“Pale of Settlement”), they were forbidden to buy land and engage in agriculture, hold officer positions, be in the public service, work on railways and mail; there were (since the 80s) norms for the admission of Jews to secondary and higher educational institutions, and so on. A. was fueled by trials accusing Jews of ritual murders (the Velizh case in the 19s and 20s, the Beilis case of 30, and others). The most brutal form of anti-Jewish pogroms, the first wave of which (early 19s) was unleashed by reactionary circles after the assassination of Alexander II, and the second during the Revolution of 1913–80. The pogromists were led by the Black Hundreds from the Union of the Russian People, and behind them were the tsarist secret police. Later, already during the years of the Civil War, the involvement of Jews in the revolutionary movement was motivated by mass Jewish pogroms organized by Petliurists and Denikinites, gangs of Makhno and other "atamans". Russian Social Democracy, like the Marxist parties of other countries, had to fight both against A. and against Jewish nationalism (manifested, in particular, in the activities of Jewish political parties such as the Bund); the fight against A. was considered by the Russian Social Democrats as an integral part of the general liberation struggle and the democratic solution of the national question. V. I. Lenin, pointing to “... the undoubted connection of anti-Semitism with the interests of precisely the bourgeois, and not the working strata of the population” (Poln. sobr. soch., 1905th ed., vol. 07, p. 5), emphasized that A. is inflated by the exploiting classes, using the darkness of the masses, noted the corrupting influence of A., poisoning the consciousness of the people; At the same time, Lenin emphasized that the struggle of the Jews themselves against Azerbaijan should not take the form of nationalism and violate the revolutionary alliance of the Jewish proletariat with the proletarians of other nationalities. Representatives of the Russian progressive intelligentsia, including M. Gorky, V. G. Korolenko, strongly opposed A.

              The Great October Socialist Revolution laid the foundation for resolving the national question in the USSR and, in particular, established complete equality for Jews in all areas of life. A resolution of the Council of People's Commissars dated July 25, 1918, signed by V. I. Lenin, declared A. "death for the cause of the workers' and peasants' revolution" and ordered that pogromists and those conducting pogrom agitation be outlawed.

              In the 30-40s. 20th century Nazi Germany became the center of A., where it was reinforced by racist theories and had the character of an officially organized genocide. At that time, fascist groups and organizations in a number of other countries sharply strengthened Azerbaijan. In Germany and the countries occupied by it during the 2nd World War, according to plans specially developed by the fascist state, about 6 million Jews were destroyed (mainly in the "death camps" built for this purpose). The defeat of Nazi Germany and the international condemnation of the persecution of the Jews by the Nazi government (qualified by the Nuremberg trials as a crime against humanity) dealt a blow to A. However, in the capitalist countries it did not disappear, although it began to manifest itself in a more relaxed farm (mainly in household segregation and discrimination against Jews) and less often takes violent forms (local pogroms, as, for example, in Liverpool in 1947, arsons of synagogues, etc.); A revival of A. usually coincides with an intensification of political reaction in various countries.

              Imperialist and Zionist propaganda tries to present the struggle of the Arab peoples against the aggressive policy of the ruling circles of Israel as a manifestation of A..

              A. is condemned by all progressive forces of the international community. The 1969 International Conference of Communist and Workers' Parties called for intensifying the struggle "... against racial and national discrimination, Zionism and anti-Semitism, which are kindled by the capitalist reactionary forces and are used by them to politically disorient the masses" (International Conference of Communist and Workers' Parties. Documents and Materials , 1969, p. 323).

              The socialist system creates the basis for the complete equality of people, regardless of their race or nationality. and consequently, for the complete eradication of A. According to Art. 123 of the Constitution of the USSR, any preaching of racial or national exclusivity (and, consequently, A.) is punishable by law.



              Lit .: F. Engels, On Anti-Semitism, K. Marx and F. Engels, Soch., 2nd ed., vol. 22; Lenin, V.I., On the pogrom persecution of Jews, Poln. coll. soch., 5th ed., v. 38; his, On the Question of National Policy, ibid., vol. 25; his, National Equality Bill, ibid.; Bebel A., Social Democracy and Anti-Semitism, St. Petersburg, 1907; Larin Yu., Jews and anti-Semitism in the USSR, M.-L., 1929; Lozinsky S. G., Social roots of anti-Semitism in the Middle Ages and in modern times, L., 1929; Nuremberg trial, vol. 4, M., 1959, p. 655-733, v. 7, M., 1961, p. 307-541; Kon I. S., Psychology of prejudice, "New World", 1966, No. 9; Lazare B., L'antisémitisme, son histoire et ses causes. P., 1894; Levinger LJ, The causes of anti-semitism in the United States, Phil., 1929.

              V. I. Kozlov.
              1. Nickelium
                Nickelium 6 October 2022 02: 45
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                OK. That is, my teachers are cooler than TSB? In general, a very useful thing, it’s a pity that they were obsessed with anti-Semitism there. Probably when the Jews fought with the Arabs there was pan-Semitism.
                1. Alexander Emrys
                  Alexander Emrys 6 October 2022 02: 50
                  -1
                  Quote: Nickelium
                  OK. That is, my teachers are cooler than TSB? In general, a very useful thing, it’s a pity that they were obsessed with anti-Semitism there. Probably when the Jews fought with the Arabs there was pan-Semitism.


                  You criticized people for not taking information from the TSB, but unfortunately you didn't even open the TSB article on this topic either. It got awkward.
                  1. Nickelium
                    Nickelium 6 October 2022 02: 56
                    0
                    What's awkward? The fact that, unlike you, I distinguish anti-Semitism from anti-Semitism? It must be embarrassing for you, and you are trying to pull on short pants. Is the fact that he complimented Soviet education bad? Well, people are fixated on the political component - it happens. So you don’t need to teach me if you don’t know the definition of the word yourself.
                    1. Alexander Emrys
                      Alexander Emrys 6 October 2022 03: 00
                      0
                      Quote: Nickelium
                      What's awkward? The fact that, unlike you, I distinguish anti-Semitism from anti-Semitism? It must be embarrassing for you, and you are trying to pull on short pants. Is the fact that he complimented Soviet education bad? Well, people are fixated on the political component - it happens. So you don’t need to teach me if you don’t know the definition of the word yourself.


                      It is embarrassing that you call to draw information from the TSB, but do not do it yourself. And yes, I draw the definition of the word from the TSB, and you yourself, having called me to do this, are now trying in every possible way to expose that you don’t need to listen to the TSB and in general I’m wrong that I’m doing this.
                      It turns out illogical, fussy and awkward.
                      1. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 6 October 2022 03: 16
                        0
                        Well? If I do not pay attention to the political fixation of the publication, then what? So you gleaned to happily say that they are bastards engaged, and I'm not to blame.
                        Again, don't try to fit into short pants. If you are so anti-Semite hurt - I sympathize. It usually offends a certain group that likes to shout "anti-Semitism", "holocaust". I have nothing against them, but they are very touchy people. Although it should be sunny in Haifa.
                      2. Alexander Emrys
                        Alexander Emrys 8 October 2022 01: 14
                        -1
                        Quote: Nickelium
                        Well? If I do not pay attention to the political fixation of the publication, then what? So you gleaned to happily say that they are bastards engaged, and I'm not to blame.
                        Again, don't try to fit into short pants. If you are so anti-Semite hurt - I sympathize. It usually offends a certain group that likes to shout "anti-Semitism", "holocaust". I have nothing against them, but they are very touchy people. Although it should be sunny in Haifa.


                        You are to blame for recommending an encyclopedia that you yourself have not read.
                        You are to blame for the distortion - I wrote above that "Judophobia" is also a perfectly acceptable name, and you expose it as if it offends me.
                        You are guilty of doing a blood test by correspondence, trying to attribute Jewish blood to me, although you do not know who I am. I have enough Slavic blood, but no Jewish. I have nothing against her, but I don't have a drop of her.
                      3. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 8 October 2022 16: 32
                        0
                        Usually they justify who such a group is. There is nothing bad about her. Only for some reason they deny their "youde". Why?
                      4. Alexander Emrys
                        Alexander Emrys 8 October 2022 23: 01
                        -1
                        Quote: Nickelium
                        Usually they justify who such a group is. There is nothing bad about her. Only for some reason they deny their "youde". Why?


                        ok, I can send you my full name in a personal, you will be engaged in genealogical excavations of my family tree on your own. if you find Jews there, send me a message)
                      5. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 9 October 2022 05: 18
                        0
                        Photos from the internet? Why take people for fools? And I do not understand - a Jew, what a shame to be?
                      6. Alexander Emrys
                        Alexander Emrys 9 October 2022 13: 53
                        -1
                        Quote: Nickelium
                        Photos from the internet? Why take people for fools? And I do not understand - a Jew, what a shame to be?


                        Did your name become a photo from the Internet? Or did you suddenly not answer me?
                      7. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 9 October 2022 18: 04
                        0
                        In general, you can come up with a full name from the bulldozer. And what suddenly? Will everything change around?
                      8. Alexander Emrys
                        Alexander Emrys 9 October 2022 19: 42
                        -1
                        Quote: Nickelium
                        In general, you can come up with a full name from the bulldozer. And what suddenly? Will everything change around?


                        you will have a brilliant opportunity to delve into my family tree, make all the necessary inquiries in the archives and try to find a Jew there)
                      9. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 9 October 2022 22: 12
                        0
                        What for? Are you an agent of security or other states? Unrecognized genius? Or a master of magic at the level of Wolf Messing?
                      10. Alexander Emrys
                        Alexander Emrys 9 October 2022 23: 39
                        -1
                        Quote: Nickelium
                        What for? Are you an agent of security or other states? Unrecognized genius? Or a master of magic at the level of Wolf Messing?


                        To prove your insinuation that I am a Jew, of course)
                      11. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 10 October 2022 04: 14
                        0
                        Ahh, why??? Am I, perhaps, the president of the Russian Federation, the head of the FSB, or the chief professor of the Russian Academy of Sciences? You are clearly ashamed of your origin and strive to prove that you are pure blood. Prove, but to me. I don't care. Even if your mother is from Ceres.
                      12. Alexander Emrys
                        Alexander Emrys 10 October 2022 08: 29
                        -1
                        Quote: Nickelium
                        Ahh, why??? Am I, perhaps, the president of the Russian Federation, the head of the FSB, or the chief professor of the Russian Academy of Sciences? You are clearly ashamed of your origin and strive to prove that you are pure blood. Prove, but to me. I don't care. Even if your mother is from Ceres.


                        You are a person who does not know how to answer for his words. could not answer for their TSB recommendation because they did not read it themselves. they could not answer for their insinuation about my origin, signing that they simply once again blurted out just to blurt out.
                        in my environment, such people are not respected, and any person with an elementary sense of honor and dignity will not respect someone who does not know how to answer for his words.
                        good luck on this in further drains, but with other interlocutors, I see no reason to continue talking with you
                      13. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 10 October 2022 16: 34
                        0
                        What are you? Offended? And why did she write such a sheet? Let's see how you keep your word.
            2. alexey sidykin
              alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 11: 53
              0
              There is also the Great Russian Encyclopedia is also a good thing.
              1. Nickelium
                Nickelium 6 October 2022 15: 40
                0
                OK. Long live all erudite publications. Except political ones.
                1. alexey sidykin
                  alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 21: 14
                  -1
                  Quote: Nickelium
                  OK. Long live all erudite publications. Except political ones.

                  I agree. Although political ones are needed, but separately.
                  1. Nickelium
                    Nickelium 6 October 2022 23: 36
                    +1
                    No no. In the political ones they write such dregs that they practically do not differ from books about Krishna. Somehow I took it upon myself to read a huge Hari Krishna - utter dregs. However, like the history of the CPSU.
                    1. alexey sidykin
                      alexey sidykin 7 October 2022 12: 58
                      0
                      Well, somehow I didn’t think about the history of the CPSU smile I meant more serious work. I also tried to read about Krishna. laughing Nothing like that, amusing reading
                      1. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 7 October 2022 16: 18
                        0
                        All these works are a blatant divorce and idle talk. They are useful only because they can heat ovens.
                      2. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 8 October 2022 12: 00
                        0
                        Well, don’t tell me ... the works of Machiaveli or Sun Tzu will always be relevant
                      3. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 8 October 2022 16: 28
                        0
                        I take them as fiction. Too much has changed since then.
                      4. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 9 October 2022 16: 07
                        0
                        It only seems. The environment has changed, but human nature has remained the same.
                      5. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 9 October 2022 17: 56
                        0
                        Well, human, no doubt. But the possibilities have multiplied.
                      6. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 9 October 2022 21: 44
                        0
                        The possibilities are yes, but the principles of action remain the same. Because why change something if it works just fine.
  13. CentDo
    CentDo 5 October 2022 20: 23
    +12
    At the same time, the concentration of forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine continues for a further strike on Svatovo. According to other information, the movement of Ukrainian BTGs in directions north and south of Svatovo has already begun, trying to cover Russian positions in the area.

    Apparently this is not a priority goal. It’s much easier to hammer on don’t understand what warehouses and cheerfully report on the destruction of something there. And the VKS, apparently, are not intended for enemy attacks even 30 km from the front line.
    Arrived.
    1. Nickelium
      Nickelium 5 October 2022 22: 22
      -4
      I also don’t understand why the same Geraniums cannot be brought down en masse against the advancing troops? The damage will be significant and the effect will be psychological. What kind of understrategists are sitting in the Headquarters? Nafig did not give up this White Church. Yes, and we are far from Odessa.
      1. Alexander Emrys
        Alexander Emrys 5 October 2022 23: 09
        +2
        Quote: Nickelium
        I also don’t understand why the same Geraniums cannot be brought down en masse against the advancing troops? The damage will be significant and the effect will be psychological. What kind of understrategists are sitting in the Headquarters? Nafig did not give up this White Church. Yes, and we are far from Odessa.

        there is nothing complicated and treacherous in this. in order to bring down Geraniums on advancing (mobile by default) troops, you need to know exactly where they are in real time. to do this, you need to have a lot of reconnaissance drones, a satellite constellation, reliable encrypted communication with your infantry (it sees a lot), powerful information processing centers and a scheme for interaction between combat arms, which allows, at the request of any platoon commander, to open fire within 2-10 minutes (it doesn’t matter artillery or drones) on identified mobile targets. the RF Armed Forces, judging by reports from the front, do not have this.
        therefore, the use of Geraniums against stationary objects is something that the RF Armed Forces can actually do in order to cause at least some damage to the enemy. and hitting them on mobile parts is beyond the possibilities. the APU has well-established reconnaissance and communications, so they can use Bayraktars against mobile units
        1. Nickelium
          Nickelium 6 October 2022 02: 19
          -1
          So it's not like it's a secret where their cluster is.
          "and hitting mobile units with them is beyond the capabilities. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have well-established reconnaissance and communications, so they can use Bayraktars against mobile units" Why outside? Just more than there is such a possibility. And Bayraktar is larger and more vulnerable than Geranium. Well, more expensive. It's more of a matter of competence. If the generals do not understand this, then it should not be surprising that we are constantly regrouping.
          1. Alexander Emrys
            Alexander Emrys 6 October 2022 02: 35
            -1
            Quote: Nickelium
            So it's not like it's a secret where their cluster is.
            "and hitting mobile units with them is beyond the capabilities. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have well-established reconnaissance and communications, so they can use Bayraktars against mobile units" Why outside? Just more than there is such a possibility. And Bayraktar is larger and more vulnerable than Geranium. Well, more expensive. It's more of a matter of competence. If the generals do not understand this, then it should not be surprising that we are constantly regrouping.


            Here the offensive is going on at the front in 20-100 km. somewhere there are mobile enemy groups. Our infantry even sees them, but they have poor communication.
            There are also few satellites and drones for continuous monitoring of the situation.
            But a miracle happened, the stars converged, a report about the whereabouts of the enemy went up. And at the top, it’s not even a mess, but much worse - a complex multi-stage system for promoting information to the decisive ones, but whether something will be applied. As a result, until it came to the decisive one, everything changed dramatically on the battlefield, the enemy went into the green, moved forward, stepped back or sat down in a residential area. And Geranium flies there, and the indicated place is already empty.
            The Ukrainians have enough problems, but many of our problems have been solved by NATO advisers - communications have been established, the chain of decision makers has been reduced, there are drones in quantity, American and European satellites and think tanks at their service. therefore, they can send a larger Bayraktar with less risk than our much smaller Geranium, because they often know where one of ours is in real time, and ours in this regard have much lower opportunities.
            1. Nickelium
              Nickelium 6 October 2022 02: 42
              -1
              I'm not talking about mobile groups, but about the accumulation of troops. But there is an accumulation. That's where you need to hit him.
              As for the cumbersome management - this is understandable, but fixable.
              Bayraktar is a priori in a greater risk zone than Geranium. If, for example, they make an improved version of Geranium, for example, "Hornet" without a buzzing motor, then the Sumerians will generally be in trouble. And it turns out that the most effective weapon is not the expensive van der Wafer Hymars, but the handicraft Shahid.
              1. Alexander Emrys
                Alexander Emrys 6 October 2022 02: 46
                -1
                Quote: Nickelium
                I'm not talking about mobile groups, but about the accumulation of troops. But there is an accumulation. That's where you need to hit him.
                As for the cumbersome management - this is understandable, but fixable.
                Bayraktar is a priori in a greater risk zone than Geranium. If, for example, they make an improved version of Geranium, for example, "Hornet" without a buzzing motor, then the Sumerians will generally be in trouble. And it turns out that the most effective weapon is not the expensive van der Wafer Hymars, but the handicraft Shahid.


                It all depends on the opposition. Bayraktar, due to the better intelligence of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the greater speed of decision-making, is able to hit in places where ours are the least protected.

                As for the clusters, the trick of NATO and the shock units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine trained by them is precisely in dispersal, they in every possible way avoid large, low-mobility clusters, which are convenient to hit. Ours are now also rapidly moving to similar tactics, wherever possible - these are the requirements of modern warfare.
                1. Nickelium
                  Nickelium 6 October 2022 02: 50
                  0
                  Listen, well, Bayraktar is not a prodigy now. Long gone.
                  NATO may be avoiding it, but the Sumerians are not. And they manage to make a cluster with all mobile groups. Well, it looks like it's easier. Yes, and it is impossible to atomize everything in principle. Again, shells, missiles, support, mobile stations. Well, of course, such goodness must be protected
                  1. Alexander Emrys
                    Alexander Emrys 6 October 2022 02: 54
                    0
                    Quote: Nickelium
                    Listen, well, Bayraktar is not a prodigy now. Long gone.
                    NATO may be avoiding it, but the Sumerians are not. And they manage to make a cluster with all mobile groups. Well, it looks like it's easier. Yes, and it is impossible to atomize everything in principle. Again, shells, missiles, support, mobile stations. Well, of course, such goodness must be protected


                    I do not think that, with all the chaos in the RF Armed Forces, that there are absolutely idiots sitting there. And, since Geranium has not yet been used against attackers, then there is no real opportunity to do this. Or betrayal, but this is some very small level of dirty tricks.

                    As for "not a wunderwaffle" - wars are won not by wunderwaffles, but by working systems. Bayraktar, Hymers, Geranium, even Maviks are quite working systems, each in its own tactical niche.
                    1. Nickelium
                      Nickelium 6 October 2022 03: 22
                      -1
                      That's what idiots are. Why was it necessary to go to Kyiv? Why were there no fortified areas in the Kharkiv region, and minefields in the Kherson region? They have all the possibilities, but you cannot write about the pulverized Sumerians as beautifully as about the White Church.
                      Do you know what their logic is? Since Geranium flies 1000 km, it is not worth sending it 30-50 km. And the fact that it will inflict great destruction on the enemy and save the lives of our soldiers is not important.
                      Just Hymars and Bayraktar are expensive prodigies. And wars are won by geraniums, bears, attack aircraft and army, MLRS systems.
                    2. IvanSviridov
                      IvanSviridov 6 October 2022 05: 03
                      -1
                      Quote: Alexander Emrys
                      And, since Geranium has not yet been used against attackers, then there is no real opportunity to do this.

                      Amen! How many times have I tried to convince someone here that if some kind of miraculous and all-destroying action is not performed, then this is not due to "fear of angering Western masters", but from the actual limited possibilities compared to dreams and fantasies. Only indignation and "minus" in response. smile
  14. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 5 October 2022 20: 23
    -3
    Well, it's not all that bad. British mercenaries go crazy on the beaches in Turkey along with the "Azov". Roma Abramovich was returned all his unbearable acquired: "The new King of Great Britain, Charles III, signed the first decree in his new position. By the decree of the monarch, the Chelsea football club will be returned to its rightful owner, businessman Roman Abramovich."
    It is clear that the oligarchy degreased the entire country, but there was hope and confidence that this was the last thing that concerns the army. But judging by the saturation with modern weapons, alas, alas, alas.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 5 October 2022 20: 35
      +7
      Chelsea Football Club will be returned to its rightful owner by decree of the monarch
      Stop disinformation. The rightful owner of Chelsea is American billionaire Todd Boeli, who bought it.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 6 October 2022 01: 39
        -3
        They will take it away from Boeli, return it to Roma. What could be simpler, the elder (king) ordered. FC Chelsea is on the territory of the South Caucasus, the king is in charge there, the Yankees will wipe. wassat laughing
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 6 October 2022 02: 02
          0
          , the elder (king) ordered.
          This has never happened in the history of the British Monarchy. King at the thieving butt running errands belay Infalipa.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 6 October 2022 02: 05
            0
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            Infalipa.

            Info from a satirical site.
            1. Essex62
              Essex62 6 October 2022 10: 13
              0
              So this was satire, and you, minusers, what did you think?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 6 October 2022 10: 21
                0
                Quote: Essex62
                And you, minusers, what did you think?

                I did not set any cons, however, the claims are not against me.
                1. Essex62
                  Essex62 6 October 2022 10: 34
                  0
                  I'm not for you specifically. So he asked. Probably in the void. hi
  15. Born_in_Russia
    Born_in_Russia 5 October 2022 20: 30
    -6
    Our proud Varyag does not surrender to the enemy, no one wants mercy!
  16. Dmitry Karabanov
    Dmitry Karabanov 5 October 2022 20: 31
    +2
    Somehow I don’t understand - but who is the local population for? During the Great Patriotic War, citizens dug ditches around the clock, dug and trenches, equipped dugouts. Indeed, in the same Liman there are 15 thousand civilians - yes, they would have dug the Volga-Don in a week with shovels! Somehow, it seems, the "liberated" do not really want to be released, and if you remember that their men serve in TerO Ukroreykha, it's generally sad ...
    1. Plate
      Plate 5 October 2022 21: 27
      -1
      What will they do against trained soldiers with experience? Never mind. Just like a novice shitcoder will do nothing against a professional programmer, just like a schoolboy who has recently taken a pencil and a ruler in his hands will not be able to compete with an experienced engineer using all sorts of computer systems, so a militiaman who has just taken a barrel in his hands will be crushed once or twice professional.
      1. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 12: 03
        -2
        That's why they don't send conscripts to Ukraine... and the mobilized are all at least those who have served in the army...
    2. 1939_1940
      1939_1940 5 October 2022 22: 29
      0
      So, look, there are a lot of videos in the cart, how the population meets the Armed Forces of Ukraine .. The most interesting thing is that no one is afraid, on camera, to openly express love for them ... They greet them with joy and love .. Especially children .. they are sure that this is forever .. Like a drug addict clown, he was sure that he would exchange Azov .. Like Lyusya Arestovich, he told everyone that where and how the offensive would be .. And everyone here laughed at him, listening to the words of Konashenkov .. winkedIt turns out that gays and drug addicts fight better than the brave military from the Arbat district ..
      1. Plate
        Plate 6 October 2022 19: 04
        0
        Quote: 1939_1940
        So, look, there are a lot of videos in the cart, how the population meets the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

        Goebbelse also had videos of how Soviet citizens with flowers meet Wehrmacht soldiers. If even then such videos were successfully filmed, then now ... Yes, the Ukrainians themselves showed us the bombing of Paris by means of the Su-57.
        I'm not saying it's not, I'm not saying it is. Here, either do not believe anything, or believe those with whom you are on the same side.
    3. Vladimir100
      Vladimir100 6 October 2022 03: 42
      -4
      the population there is mostly hohlyatsky and it is clear that it is for them. but it does not change anything. they need to be evicted from there to the west, there is no other solution.
  17. Arbeiternegast
    Arbeiternegast 5 October 2022 20: 33
    +5
    The APU is concentrated 30 km from the BS line.
    Excuse me, but how much does the "tornado" hit? No cassette warheads? Or warhead with tbs? But won't a "hurricane" reach 30 km? Or only on the "star" dozens of hectares can the land be burned?
    1. Plate
      Plate 5 October 2022 21: 26
      0
      And not only on the Star. The stocks of MLRS have been large since the times of the USSR, but for some reason ... And I don’t know how to try to explain this from a military point of view. The rest seem to be some sort of conspiracy theories.
  18. Plesiosaur
    Plesiosaur 5 October 2022 20: 37
    -2
    Let's see what happens next, but we are more and more confident that Svatovo and Kreminnaya will defend every day. And yes, under NG there will be another mobilization. 300 thousand not enough. This is my prediction.
  19. kventinasd
    kventinasd 5 October 2022 20: 43
    +2
    Svatovo is now a key city, losing which we will open the way for the enemy to Severodonetsk, Lisichansk and Rubizhne with further access to Lugansk. Therefore, ours are ready to stand to the death, waiting for the approach of the reserves.

    If I had read such reports six months ago, I would have thought that I was reading reports of the Great Patriotic War.
    But now, when the whole world sees the hopelessness of the 2nd army of the world in front of the army pushed to the 23rd line, I am tormented by doubts and I constantly ask myself: Is everything in order in our state or are we so taught to believe everything that the Russian media broadcast, that we are resigned to this fate?
    And after all, there is an alternative only on propaganda Ukrainian and various liberal channels, although there is fake garbage through the roof. Why is there no healthy (certainly not anti-state) criticism in our media about what is really happening?
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      1. kventinasd
        kventinasd 5 October 2022 21: 16
        -3
        Quote from shaval
        Have you ever heard criticism of Putin and so that later these people do not sit down for a long time?.

        Heard more than once. Full of TV channels (inagents) accredited in the Russian Federation, where they criticize our government with might and main. Can you imagine something like this in Ukraine?
        1. Cheburek
          Cheburek 5 October 2022 21: 55
          0
          No one has been criticizing for a long time, unless these channels have a state license to create the appearance of freedom of the media. Commentary is my personal opinion.
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 5 October 2022 21: 21
      +1
      There is such criticism. The communists, for example, they mercilessly expose the vices of capitalism in Russia. I'm not talking about the Communist Party, about the left opposition channels.
      1. klara
        klara 5 October 2022 22: 06
        -3
        expose the vices of capitalism in Russia
        Chatter and only
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 6 October 2022 01: 43
          0
          "In the beginning was the word"...
      2. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 12: 08
        -1
        All these channels in one way or another are for the most part connected with the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, only a few not included in the CPSU bloc are kind of independent.
    3. Plate
      Plate 5 October 2022 21: 28
      0
      Quote: kventinasd
      pushed to the 23rd line

      Excuse me, where and when did such a rating come out? Link please?
      1. kventinasd
        kventinasd 6 October 2022 00: 48
        0
        Quote: Plate
        Excuse me, where and when did such a rating come out? Link please?

        https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php
        https://basetop.ru/rejting-armij-mira-2022/
        1. Plate
          Plate 6 October 2022 09: 37
          0
          In both rankings, Russia is still in second place.
    4. Nickelium
      Nickelium 5 October 2022 22: 26
      -4
      And who decided that Russia is the 2nd Army of the World? Now it is obvious that ahead of the United States, China, Japan, Turkey. Why repeat this myth about the second army of the world? To once again scoff? Well, OK. The first army of the world fled, dropping slippers from barmaley, whom no one helped. The First Army of the World can't do anything about North Korea. But Russia must be kicked.
      1. alexey sidykin
        alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 12: 11
        -1
        Quote: Nickelium
        And who decided that Russia is the 2nd Army of the World? Now it is obvious that ahead of the United States, China, Japan, Turkey. Why repeat this myth about the second army of the world? To once again scoff? Well, OK. The first army of the world fled, dropping slippers from barmaley, whom no one helped. The First Army of the World can't do anything about North Korea. But Russia must be kicked.

        How do you assess the potential of Japan China Turkey? According to certain criteria, only Turkey has some experience against bandit formations.
        1. Nickelium
          Nickelium 6 October 2022 15: 33
          0
          According to the competent command and the absence of total corruption in the army.
          1. alexey sidykin
            alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 21: 13
            -1
            I repeat the question ... How did you determine this?
            1. Nickelium
              Nickelium 6 October 2022 23: 41
              0
              I repeat the answer: According to the competent command and the absence of total corruption in the army. Maybe you need Mandarin and Swahili?
              1. alexey sidykin
                alexey sidykin 7 October 2022 13: 08
                0
                I'm asking for the third time. How did you determine this ... or did you serve in all these armies that you know for sure that everyone is competent there and there is no mess?
                1. Nickelium
                  Nickelium 7 October 2022 16: 14
                  0
                  I answer for the third time: According to the competent command and the absence of total corruption in the army. सक्षमाज्ञानुसारेण सेनायां सर्वथा भ्रष्टाचाराभावात् ।. Is it clear or on some other overseas?
                  1. alexey sidykin
                    alexey sidykin 7 October 2022 16: 20
                    0
                    I ask for the fourth time, how did you determine that they are competent and not corrupt?
                    1. Nickelium
                      Nickelium 7 October 2022 16: 33
                      0
                      The fourth time I answer: The third time I answer: According to the competent command and the absence of total corruption in the army. Raws li cov lus txib muaj peev xwm thiab tsis muaj kev noj nyiaj txiag tag nrho hauv cov tub rog. How many requests from different nations. However, the trend!
                      1. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 8 October 2022 12: 11
                        0
                        Well, if nothing, let's try it differently ... On what sources is your conviction based on this?
                      2. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 8 October 2022 16: 24
                        0
                        From the words of your esteemed parents. Do you respect your parents?
                      3. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 9 October 2022 16: 01
                        0
                        I see... you don't have an answer. This is your personal opinion and you cannot confirm it with anything.
                      4. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 9 October 2022 18: 14
                        0
                        It is clear that you don’t have a question, but just a collision for the sake of a collision, because it’s boring.
                      5. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 9 October 2022 21: 50
                        0
                        I asked you a specific question, but the most important thing is to say that this is an attack so as not to answer it. But if I can ask again where did you get the information about the absence of corruption in your named armies and about their effectiveness ...
                      6. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 9 October 2022 22: 03
                        0
                        Where did you get information about her presence? If you report to me about specific schemes and names, then perhaps I will pass them on to the Security Service.
                      7. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 10 October 2022 13: 17
                        0
                        Be honest, you can't answer the question...
                      8. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 10 October 2022 16: 25
                        0
                        No, you must admit that you have no information about corruption.
                      9. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 10 October 2022 17: 02
                        0
                        Did I state somewhere that it is there?
                      10. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 10 October 2022 19: 11
                        0
                        That is, we have already found out one thing - there is no corruption. So if there is no corruption, then why argue about it?
                      11. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 10 October 2022 21: 16
                        0
                        I'm not saying yes or no because I don't know...you say no. But don't provide evidence for this. It turns out you, unlike me, just chatter.
                      12. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 10 October 2022 22: 04
                        0
                        Well, if you don't know, no. If you know, please provide information. Chatter is what you throw in here, spinning around like a courtesan. There is no such thing as "I don't know" in court. Either he is guilty or he is not. Stop fiddling around and admit it.
                      13. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 11 October 2022 07: 13
                        0
                        Just twist it you ... you wrote that in the armies of Japan and China, unlike ours, there is no corruption, in response to the proposal to provide evidence, you are wriggling like I don’t know who ... trying to throw arrows like that same courtesan.
                      14. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 11 October 2022 16: 44
                        0
                        Well then, bring evidence of corruption there. No evidence - no corruption. So the courtesan is still you.
                      15. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 11 October 2022 19: 24
                        0
                        I answer for those who do not understand ... I DO NOT APPROVE ANYTHING. You approve. Since you're saying, please provide evidence.
                      16. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 11 October 2022 20: 07
                        0
                        I APPROVE FOR THE UNDERSTANDING: IF THERE ARE NO FACTS OF CORRUPTION, THEN THERE IS NO CORRUPTION. If you do not agree with this, then bring the facts of corruption. If you cannot, then get out of the Puteisky dead end and go along Malaya Spasskaya.
                      17. alexey sidykin
                        alexey sidykin 12 October 2022 09: 04
                        0
                        BRAVO! I applaud standing. Just a great answer. "If I don't know something, then it doesn't exist." Straight in general, smitten on the spot.
                      18. Nickelium
                        Nickelium 12 October 2022 20: 41
                        0
                        I'm very happy for you. If you have something, you can post it. If not, then stay smitten.
    5. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 6 October 2022 07: 33
      -1
      about the second army, this is nonsense, it was considered according to nuclear weapons, if it would be far to count without it
  20. zenion
    zenion 5 October 2022 20: 48
    -1
    I recalled the film "The Feast of St. Jorgen" where a specialist in various cases says - in our business, the most important thing is to escape in time. Soldiers are not machine guns, just in case, can they tell them, conduct political information, why is this all being done, what will they get for it?
    1. klara
      klara 5 October 2022 22: 05
      -5
      Now the Kremlin towers are thinking about it. Someone is (guess) faking their own death.
  21. fetus
    fetus 5 October 2022 20: 53
    +4
    patience and strength to our guys. I think they will cope with these metamorphoses.
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    1. klara
      klara 5 October 2022 22: 04
      -1
      It looks like someone stole the army from the Russian Federation. Or it was not there, there were only cartoons. Recently they showed a collective photo of thieves - at a conference call, you yourself know which Sergey.
  23. Al manah
    Al manah 5 October 2022 20: 56
    0
    Quote: BoyCat
    Ukraine's potential is incomparable with Russia's, you just need to use it correctly.

    Yes, it is already very clear how well they dispose of it.
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  28. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 5 October 2022 21: 05
    +3
    The main thing is that this "front alignment" should not be the same as that of the Fritz since July 1943.
    1. klara
      klara 5 October 2022 22: 01
      -1
      It is, starting from Kharkov, Liman, Kherson region ....
  29. azkolt
    azkolt 5 October 2022 21: 07
    -2
    Damn, how to download a video from YouTube, no explanation!
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 5 October 2022 22: 05
      0
      Click on the icon: "insert media content..." Just insert the letter s after http.
      1. azkolt
        azkolt 6 October 2022 19: 04
        -2
        Op, thanks! I’ve been inserting videos here since 2010, but I haven’t uploaded them like this for 7-8 years. Well, as usual, I forgot a bit. Thanks a lot! Tell me, are you not familiar with such a resource as the Kharkov META forum?
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 6 October 2022 19: 23
          0
          Quote: azkolt
          Tell me, are you not familiar with such a resource as the Kharkov META forum?

          Do not know.
          1. azkolt
            azkolt 6 October 2022 19: 26
            -2
            It's just that from our side there was a person with the "call sign" "Mordvin". By the way, I posted the video, but for some reason it does not open! (((
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 6 October 2022 19: 38
              0
              Quote: azkolt
              By the way, I posted the video, but for some reason it does not open! (((

              When you open the "insert media..." icon, or completely erase "http://" , and insert the full link from YouTube, like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDG_KB9TCgo,
              or add
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              insert the letter s after http.
              , but you paste the link from YouTube already without "https://".
              1. azkolt
                azkolt 6 October 2022 19: 44
                -2
                I already did this, but writes that the comment is too short. I managed to break through the video, as it were, loaded, but for some reason it does not open.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 6 October 2022 19: 50
                  0
                  Set the dots before or after uploading the video. This stupid robot does not skip comments less than 30 characters.
                2. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 6 October 2022 21: 00
                  0

                  ..............................................
                  1. azkolt
                    azkolt 7 October 2022 20: 11
                    -2
                    Thanks a lot! With another video, it immediately turned out, with the previous one, there must have been some kind of failure.
  30. Adrey
    Adrey 5 October 2022 21: 08
    +3
    I don’t know about you, but I’m interested in the fact that all the strikes of the Armed Forces of Ukraine seem to “slide” along the border of the Russian Federation. They apparently don’t care at all about leaving cover forces on this side, judging by the concentration of forces?
    There it is already NECESSARY to put at least a DIVISION on the defensive! But no, everyone is at the forefront, on the offensive ...
    Can anyone reasonably answer WHY? hi
    1. UAZ 452
      UAZ 452 5 October 2022 22: 02
      -2
      Probably because on our side there are mostly only border guards - this is an agreement that so far suits both sides. The key word is yet.
      1. Nickelium
        Nickelium 5 October 2022 22: 28
        -1
        I don't think it's a deal. Rather, the Americans are not giving commands to the Sumerians yet. Those in general could calmly rip Belarus through and through.
      2. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 6 October 2022 07: 35
        -1
        there are many units and equipment, but they are equipped with conscripts, they cannot go on the offensive
    2. Mikhail Ya2
      Mikhail Ya2 5 October 2022 23: 00
      +2
      Most likely they rely on US intelligence. They will immediately determine the accumulation of forces to strike
  31. sergo1914
    sergo1914 5 October 2022 21: 17
    +10
    The easiest option works. All those who doubt the adequacy of the supreme power, the military leadership talents of the General Staff and the combat capability of the regular units of the RF Armed Forces are recorded in bulk in tsipsoshniks and ukrobots. Good. Recorded. The army has become better at fighting? Has the General Staff sharply seen the light and grown wiser? Has the government turned its face to the people? If someone lies everywhere and in everything, then it is very difficult to convince people that you want to do something good and useful.
    I read the cart. On the Kherson direction:
    There is an attack of different strength from all three directions (Nikolaevskoe, Andreevskoe and Dutchany), up to 50 pieces of equipment from each. Defensive battles are underway and the situation is assessed as “difficult”. we are on the defensive. Artillery and aviation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are working closely in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    Seriously? 150 tanks and infantry fighting vehicles? With the dense work of aviation and artillery? Can I find out where they work closely? And if it’s tight, then why the hell is this armor not yet burned into the trash?
  32. Sergey Aleksandrovich
    Sergey Aleksandrovich 5 October 2022 21: 18
    +4
    I don't understand what's going on. Mining is not carried out at all? With dense mining, no DRGs should penetrate anywhere, by definition. Unless they know how to fly, but in this case, the air defense units should already be working.
  33. Alexey Koshkarov
    Alexey Koshkarov 5 October 2022 21: 48
    +5
    We have the number of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - 5 million people who have good fire and physical training, are better motivated than ordinary citizens cut off from their families
    1. klara
      klara 5 October 2022 21: 59
      -2
      Another workers of private security companies - about 3 million. With weapons.
    2. Arkady007
      Arkady007 5 October 2022 23: 25
      0
      We only have 700 very motivated assistants to deputies in the country, and more than 2 million members of the United Russia who are ready to inspire the masses with their example.
    3. Havoc
      Havoc 6 October 2022 01: 43
      0
      Quote: Alexey Koshkarov
      We have the number of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - 5 million people who have good fire and physical training, are better motivated than ordinary citizens cut off from their families

      In our city, the staff of the criminal investigation department is exactly 50 percent, but you will be the first to vote when you are squeezed in the gateway or the car is stolen.
      And where does such a figure of 5 million come from, if it is from the nat. guards, then they are already fighting there and fighting not badly.
    4. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 6 October 2022 07: 36
      0
      fire and physical training??? are you laughing? they can't even shoot with a machine gun
  34. klara
    klara 5 October 2022 21: 58
    +2
    Who stole the army from Russia, I can’t understand for a long time. Who knows?
    1. Cheburek
      Cheburek 5 October 2022 22: 01
      -2
      They say that aliens, otherwise traces of the crime would have been found ...
      1. acetophenone
        acetophenone 5 October 2022 22: 20
        +1
        Or if those who stole are looking for traces. request
        The text of my comment, according to the site administration, is too short.
        hi
  35. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 5 October 2022 22: 01
    0
    30 km .. how would a coalition with a range of 70 km come in handy here
  36. Astra55
    Astra55 5 October 2022 22: 05
    +10
    As I understand it, Russia with its army did not come to the war again.
    "We haven't really started anything yet" (c)
    request
  37. acetophenone
    acetophenone 5 October 2022 22: 17
    +1
    "Maybe something needs to be corrected at the conservatory?" Zhvanetsy.
  38. dementor873
    dementor873 5 October 2022 22: 49
    0
    Himarsy shoot at 84 km, on the map of lostarmor in a straight line from the territories occupied by the Ukrainians to Luhansk 81 km. In the event of a strike, the effect of propaganda is colossal.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 6 October 2022 07: 38
      -1
      they don’t shoot from the front end, they take care of it very much, for only 15-20 km
  39. koralevviktor
    koralevviktor 5 October 2022 22: 59
    -1
    Betrayal and treason, that's the key to the success of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Only because of internal problems could this situation develop at the front. Save Moscow.
  40. Arkady007
    Arkady007 5 October 2022 23: 22
    -2
    Here it is necessary to put the Kadyrovites against the Arabs.
    They talk to them a little easier.
  41. Vladimir100
    Vladimir100 6 October 2022 03: 24
    0
    Now there will be nothing left of the wedding. and the cities of Banderlog are intact.
  42. Vladimir100
    Vladimir100 6 October 2022 03: 35
    0
    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: Normann
    Building a defensive line under enemy fire is know-how.

    Who said under fire?
    There is a long distance between us and the enemy, in some areas reaching 30 km,

    and Hymars has a range of 84 km
  43. Vladimir100
    Vladimir100 6 October 2022 03: 50
    -5
    Today I watched several stories about deployed points of mobilization and training in Russia. It is felt that the country is beginning to rise and Ukrainians will soon be in trouble. This is not a shellfish that they brought here in February.
    1. Asad
      Asad 6 October 2022 06: 10
      -2
      Who are you, slups, called? Fighters who fight and die while the Ministry of Defense is honored with mobilization ?!
  44. composite
    composite 6 October 2022 07: 08
    0
    Russian Armed Forces aligned

    Did any of the journalists from the site go to school? ))
    Even in the title of articles asipki.
    1. Sidel45
      Sidel45 6 October 2022 11: 07
      +1
      What is the demand from them? They only have a higher philological education, and what they taught at school has long been forgotten. It would be technical, then it would be possible to ask for abships.
      1. composite
        composite 6 October 2022 11: 46
        -1
        Quote: Seidel45
        What is the demand from them? They only have a higher philological education, and what they taught at school has long been forgotten. It would be technical, then it would be possible to ask for abships.

  45. Vladimir Mikhalev
    Vladimir Mikhalev 6 October 2022 10: 56
    0
    Reserves, as I understand it, will be only after the new year. Mines, minefields will only help to keep the defense normal.
  46. alexey sidykin
    alexey sidykin 6 October 2022 12: 20
    -2
    Here I read the comments as if I got to the forum of Navalny's witnesses almost one to one ...
  47. Buyan
    Buyan 6 October 2022 18: 05
    0
    Quote: g_ae
    If so far it has not been for different situations, then why should it be now?

    The mobilized are being prepared and sent - the saturation of the armed forces with infantry
  48. RaccoonSnake
    RaccoonSnake 6 October 2022 19: 13
    -2
    Goodwill gesture -> regroup -> level up -> ???