The servicemen of the 25th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who left their positions accused their command of giving the order to “kill everyone”

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The servicemen of the 25th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who left their positions accused their command of giving the order to “kill everyone”

Another video message of Ukrainian deserters from the front line appeared on the Web, this time the video was recorded by soldiers of the 25th Separate Secheslav Airborne Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Ukrainian "paratroopers" from the 25th brigade, who left their positions on the front line, turned to Zelensky with a request to influence the brigade command, which, according to them, treats its subordinates "not giving a damn." According to them, they refuse to fight such commanders. The already traditional statements that they are sent "to the front line" without heavy weapons, communications, food and medicines have been added with new ones. As the deserters say, their command immediately stated that there would be no evacuation, even if you get injured. Therefore, if your comrade was wounded, finish him off so that he does not suffer and is not captured.



In addition, the Ukrainian military accused its command of issuing orders to “kill everyone,” especially if the unit enters a settlement that was previously under “Russian occupation.” All this is served under the sauce that all civilians are "occupiers and collaborators", so they all need to be killed, and then "the Lord will figure it out."

(...) "There are no civilians there. Shoot all the houses, windows, cars, throw grenades into the cellars." In the morning we saw people coming out of these cellars. From one cellar near us came a young woman and a child

- said one of the soldiers

The video caused a mixed reaction, in Kyiv it has already been called staged and filmed on the order of Russian intelligence. According to Ukrainian sources, Zelensky's office is urgently preparing a refutation and is looking for ways to "hush up" this appeal, redirecting the attention of the population to something else, preferably "victorious".

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  1. +4
    5 October 2022 15: 41
    Until September 5, I would have been ironic over them, but now I have other thoughts, how did the Armed Forces of Ukraine accumulate so many reserves? and how do they freely transfer them from one sector of the front to another for as much as 2 thousand km? Where do they get military aviation and air defense from? It seems that NATO has not yet supplied anything, and the ensign, who broadcasts daily on TV, has already announced the complete destruction of these branches of the Armed Forces of Ukraine three times.
    1. -4
      5 October 2022 15: 49
      Ask Konoshenkov, he seems to know everything.
      1. Aag
        0
        5 October 2022 17: 43
        Quote: St54
        Ask Konoshenkov, he seems to know everything.

        It seems that now the people, their parts, are not up to irony ... - and I understand him.
    2. +3
      5 October 2022 15: 51
      Well, we didn’t understand what we were doing for 7 months. And they trained the army. Including abroad. That no one hid. And the victorious reports of the terrible ensign can be divided well if by 3. Yes, and the volume of deliveries is not brought to us. As well as how much APU equipment was repaired in the EU. So we can already destroy the same tank 3 times. While we were besieging the regiment at the plant, the Armed Forces of Ukraine mobilized and armed 5 regiments. But the lives of hundreds of civilians were saved and the factory was not heavily bombed. How many because of the lost time will die, it does not matter.
      1. +3
        5 October 2022 17: 12
        Quote: Single-n
        we 7 months do not understand what we were doing

        And who is "we"? Personally, you, all 7 months, sat in tyrnet and pressed the keys, while others fought.
        1. Aag
          +5
          5 October 2022 19: 19
          Quote: Piramidon
          Quote: Single-n
          we 7 months do not understand what we were doing

          And who is "we"? Personally, you, all 7 months, sat in tyrnet and pressed the keys, while others fought.

          Were you at war at that time?
          Provoskhishaya your question (not, not in the trenches ...). The benefit from me there is close to zero. It’s not clear anymore
          I see it on my smartphone .. Moreover, into the distance ... And shooting from the left shoulder, the sores acquired during the "period of military service" are not strong, not regular, do not allow ... hi
          I can train dogs...
          I can carry out the initial training of mobiles ... (For 23 years now, as not the Armed Forces of the Armed Forces, but I worked as a teacher of the Allied Armed Forces (the basics of military service) in various education structures (gloom!) ...
          Before that, - KG GPP PGRK "TOPOL," ..
          Yes, of course, the structure is specific - a platoon in protection, defense, offensive - I saw it in the control unit of the USSR Armed Forces forty years ago! (Have they all screwed up, pissed off?!)..
          1. +6
            5 October 2022 22: 25
            Quote: AAG
            Were you at war at that time?

            On the eighth ten? I have been retired for a long time. If I were 20 years younger, I would have fought. I also wrote that here some, sitting on the couch, use the pronoun "WE" in relation to military operations. They also stomp their feet, knock with their fists, asking - "How long, WE will be ...?!"
            1. Aag
              0
              6 October 2022 04: 27
              Quote: Piramidon
              Quote: AAG
              Were you at war at that time?

              On the eighth ten? I have been retired for a long time. If I were 20 years younger, I would have fought. I also wrote that here some, sitting on the couch, use the pronoun "WE" in relation to military operations. They also stomp their feet, knock with their fists, asking - "How long, WE will be ...?!"

              Understood thanks.
              hi
        2. -4
          6 October 2022 01: 30
          Well, go and fight, why are you giving advice to others? As I see it, we have problems with volunteers. But all the stickers are glued to the cars, what kind of patriots they are.
          1. +2
            6 October 2022 12: 40
            Quote from Dmitry
            Well, go and fight, why are you giving advice to others? As I see it, we have problems with volunteers. But all the stickers are glued to the cars, what kind of patriots they are.

            I would go, but they don't take it. I have already answered in detail one such question on the same question, I do not want to repeat for everyone. See post above.
            1. -1
              6 October 2022 13: 17
              That is, they take everyone in a row, especially volunteers, but they don’t take you ...
              1. +2
                6 October 2022 13: 33
                Quote from Dmitry
                That is, they take everyone in a row, especially volunteers, but they don’t take you ...

                Haven't you bothered to read it yet? I repeat for the especially stubborn. In the eighth decade with a disability group, even volunteers are not needed by anyone, not to mention some kind of call. So you better shut up, hero. Are you writing from a trench yourself, or from a plantation near Krakow?
                1. -4
                  6 October 2022 15: 06
                  I've read a bunch of your comments, you're hardly who you say you are.
                  1. 0
                    6 October 2022 19: 15
                    I'm not going to justify myself to every local user. The main thing is that I myself, my friends and relatives know who I am. And your opinions and suspicions do not care and forget.
        3. -3
          6 October 2022 02: 35
          And who is this "we"?

          We are the army of Russia, our army, because we are citizens of the Russian Federation and this army exists with our money. And we have the right to ask the military-political leadership for the quality of its acquisition and use.
        4. -1
          6 October 2022 08: 07
          The best answer to everyone who "we...."
      2. -2
        5 October 2022 21: 24
        Here is another question. If ours lie about the loss of ukrov, then how many of ours really lost? Including with the forces of the DNR and LNR? No matter how the losses of Afghanistan with such lies have already exceeded.
    3. +13
      5 October 2022 16: 01
      Quote from Silver99
      Until September 5, I would have been ironic over them, but now I have other thoughts, how did the Armed Forces of Ukraine accumulate so many reserves? and how do they freely transfer them from one sector of the front to another for as much as 2 thousand km? Where do they get military aviation and air defense from? It seems that NATO has not yet supplied anything, and the ensign, who broadcasts daily on TV, has already announced the complete destruction of these branches of the Armed Forces of Ukraine three times.


      How did NATO not supply anything? Have you heard anything about the Ramsteins, where equipment and ammunition for Ukraine were brought from all over NATO? Aviation has been supplied to Ukraine for a long time. Soviet. And you can read about mobilization in Ukraine below.
      The first wave of mobilization, namely, the call for reservists, started in Ukraine even before the start of the Russian military special operation. On February 22, Vladimir Zelensky signed a decree on the mobilization of the reserve. This category includes citizens who previously served in the military. They were to be sent to the line units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, that is, active military units. By the beginning of March, the Ministry of Defense reported that "almost 100% of the reservists who were registered had already gone to their combat military units and were performing defense tasks." More than 36 people were sent to the troops on this first draft. But it should be noted that the “second wave” started almost immediately: since on February 24, President Zelensky declared martial law in the country, and on March 3 he signed a document on general mobilization, which already fell under all men liable for military service between the ages of 18 and 60. Then they began to call on citizens who did not have experience in military service. Before being in the active army, they had to take training courses at the training centers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In fact, this training was often limited to two weeks, during which the conscripts were simply shown how to use small arms. According to the latest data, about 300 thousand citizens fell under this wave. At the same time, those who went to serve in the territorial defense units could avoid being sent to the front line.


      .On April 24, the conditional “third wave” of conscription just started. Officially, reserve officers who graduated from the military departments of universities were called up to the ranks of the country's armed forces. Unofficially - in the same period, they began to massively send released prisoners to the troops. Sadists from the Tornado punitive battalion, who even in Ukraine were convicted for atrocities against civilians, were also released. All of them returned to the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And by the summer, it was the turn to send Territorial Defense fighters from the Western regions to the front.


      . However, since July there has been a lot of talk about a "fourth wave" of mobilization, which includes women. Not all, but only certain specialties. ....
      With women, untrained students, Teroboronists and former prisoners, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine intended to increase the number of mobilized to 700 thousand people.

      https://www.mk.ru/politics/2022/09/21/mobilizaciya-poukrainski-shla-volnami.html
    4. +11
      5 October 2022 16: 01
      Quote from Silver99
      Until September 5, I would have been ironic over them, but now I have other thoughts, how did the Armed Forces of Ukraine accumulate so many reserves? and how do they freely transfer them from one sector of the front to another for as much as 2 thousand km? Where do they get military aviation and air defense from? It seems that NATO has not yet supplied anything, and the ensign, who broadcasts daily on TV, has already announced the complete destruction of these branches of the Armed Forces of Ukraine three times.

      Total mobilization, if not for war, then in prison for a serious period + crazy zombie propaganda
    5. +10
      5 October 2022 16: 02
      Until September 5, I would have been ironic over them, but now I have other thoughts, how did the Armed Forces of Ukraine accumulate so many reserves? and how do they freely transfer them from one sector of the front to another for as much as 2 thousand km? Where do they get military aviation and air defense from? It seems that NATO has not yet supplied anything, and the ensign, who broadcasts daily on TV, has already announced the complete destruction of these branches of the Armed Forces of Ukraine three times.

      Listen dear. Article about something else. Don't beat your head.
      The boy popped up... soldier
      1. -4
        5 October 2022 18: 14
        But no, it's hardly a boy. It's just that such questions without convincing answers hang in the air and do not allow you to calmly perceive other information.
    6. -6
      5 October 2022 16: 31
      Elementary Watson .. T-shirts are everywhere plus the Skylink network into one whole, they see everything with the help of ov. And it was not a problem for them to arrange the T-shirts cheaply and cheerfully .. at least for every house, poke our standard jammers do not work .. that's the answer
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      2. +2
        6 October 2022 01: 26
        You would learn to read and write a bit. Lighthouses from the word lighthouse, not a T-shirt
    7. +4
      5 October 2022 17: 09
      Quote from Silver99
      how did the APU accumulate so many reserves?
      belay Have you heard of 6 mobilizations?
      Quote from Silver99
      how they freely transfer them from one sector of the front to another as much as 2 thousand km

      On wheels, thanks to the inaction or assistance of our generals, who do not want to destroy the infrastructure of the enemy. request
      Quote from Silver99
      Where do they get military aviation and air defense
      fool From a cabinet. They overslept again about the deliveries of England and Germany. request
      Quote from Silver99
      It seems that NATO has not yet supplied anything,

      It told you, congratulations. And for me, it has been like this since 2014, as the beginning, and has not stopped.
      Quote from Silver99
      The ensign, which broadcasts daily on TV, has already announced the complete destruction of these branches of the Armed Forces of Ukraine three times.

      Everything is correct, and you will have to destroy it 10 more times, if you water the thistle with $$, it will bush like a lilac.
    8. 0
      6 October 2022 02: 32
      There will be no answer. At the General Staff, everything is according to plan. And now the uryaks can only minus.
  2. -1
    5 October 2022 15: 42
    What's the point of their awakened conscience? It's all zatrut and people shavaet ....
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      1. +9
        5 October 2022 15: 57
        For the sake of justice, the 25th brigade at 14 did not want to fight, it even began to load on railway transport at one time to disperse the Maidan in Kyiv, but Vshivyy chickened out, escaped and was returned to the PPD. They even tried to disband this brigade, for cowardice. Sodol led the 25th brigade at that time, then he became the commander of the Marine Corps of Ukraine. This summer, Azov soldiers killed him while driving through a checkpoint near Mariupol, a muddy story turned out there.
        1. +1
          5 October 2022 22: 20
          This summer, Azov soldiers killed him while driving through a checkpoint near Mariupol, a muddy story turned out there.

          What the Azov people did at the checkpoint near Mariupol in the summer is a mystery. Taking into account the fact that the latter surrendered to Azovstal on May 20.
          And Sodol is quite alive.
          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Содоль,_Юрий_Иванович
          1. 0
            6 October 2022 00: 28
            I apologize, of course not in the summer but in the spring. Sodol has not been alive since March 02, was mortally wounded by Azov soldiers near Mariupol
  3. +15
    5 October 2022 15: 46
    By the way, the video was filmed at the location of the unit ... here it is cut off, but there is a brigade emblem above the entrance. Remarkably, there are not only claims against the command, which have already become commonplace, but the recognition of the crimes committed by the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the criminal orders of the command. This is the first time, and against the backdrop of local successes in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    1. -7
      5 October 2022 15: 56
      Another staging for us, what a humane conscience they have awakened. We don’t want to go to the front line, we don’t have bulletproof vests.
      1. +9
        5 October 2022 16: 02
        Staging? Doubtful. To themselves admitted to crimes? Namely, this is the main difference from previous statements, and these are not terbats, but a regular army.
      2. +5
        5 October 2022 16: 08
        Another production for us, what a humane conscience they have awakened. Give up, we will not kill you, unless it hurts. Explicit Ukrainian production,

        Doesn't look like a staging. You think we have only problems in the army. They have many more problems there. And confess to criminal orders. Why if staging?
        1. -2
          5 October 2022 17: 10
          To show that they are at odds with the command. We are brothers, we are not fascists. And if they take on the form of clothes with a naked torso, they probably don’t have a living place on them from tattoos. The tipchik stands out especially, in the first row in the middle. they begin to decompose our mobilized people from afar and sow doubts .. Those who are on our front lines can no longer be taken by this: To Bandera or uphill. Throwing it in, psychological warfare is in full swing.
          1. +1
            5 October 2022 19: 21
            The purpose of the video is to sow doubts among our mobilized

            - doubts what is sow?? That they should not be killed in captivity? - so this is already known to everyone (what kind of fattened ones were given out for exchange), i.e. they already know that nothing bad will happen to them in captivity, why shoot some kind of videos for the Russians? We don’t give a damn about their graters with their command: gunners are not interested in relations in the enemy camp. So what are the doubts?
            1. -1
              5 October 2022 19: 55
              The vidosik is custom-made, you don’t want orders to follow your hands uphill and forward. The snot here is propagandistic.
      3. 0
        5 October 2022 17: 05
        I don’t know how much one can talk about conscience here, there is no doubt about what these ghouls have done for an impressive criminal term, even in their own country.
  4. -22
    5 October 2022 15: 49
    Two oligarchic armies: no one cares about the soldiers, what is happening and not a damn thing. The only difference is that there is external management and supplies, but here there is a big internal fiddle ... The comment is my personal opinion. And can anyone explain how the mobilized ended up in Ukraine and what they are doing there if the Russian Federation is not at war with Ukraine, with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with the population and with NATO, and the Azov nationalists were captured long ago?
    1. +1
      5 October 2022 16: 22
      "Can anyone explain how the mobilized ended up in Ukraine and what they are doing there if the Russian Federation is not at war with Ukraine, with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, with the population and with NATO"
      We are at war with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and indirectly with NATO. Again you are talking nonsense.

      "Were the nationalists of Azov taken prisoner long ago?"

      And besides Azov, there are no more Nazis in Ukraine? There are enough of them both in the army and in the rear and in the very leadership of Ukraine.
      1. -9
        5 October 2022 16: 39
        Can you see the order of the RF Ministry of Defense or the President where it says that we are at war with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Ukraine? If there is no link, then you are delirious. Firstly, they are officially called "nationalists" in the Russian Federation, and not "Nazis", and secondly, name those who are recognized in the Russian Federation as nationalist Ukrainian banned organizations?
        "There are enough of them both in the army and in the rear and in the very leadership of Ukraine." Those are your personal thoughts...
        1. +4
          5 October 2022 16: 44
          "Can you see the order of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation or the President where it says that we are at war with the Armed Forces of Ukraine?"
          And what else can the army do during a MILITARY operation? You were clearly told - a military operation, not a police one.
          "" There are enough of them both in the army and in the rear and in the very leadership of Ukraine. "- these are your personal conjectures."
          These are not my conjectures, but your chronic blindness. The whole world has already seen them, only you do not know.
          1. -7
            5 October 2022 16: 48
            It does not matter who does what and where, it is important who the enemy is. Where in the official documents it is indicated that we are at war with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Ukraine. Those. in fact, there are no such documents because you would have brought them differently. "The whole world has already seen them, only you don't know." - and why, in my opinion, your blindness will be worse, because the whole world also saw the "butter", self-shelling of the ZNPP, etc., i.e. what he wants is what he sees...
            1. +3
              5 October 2022 17: 33
              "Where is it indicated in official documents that we are at war with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Ukraine"

              The last time, especially for you... A special MILITARY OPERATION in Ukraine has been officially announced. A military operation is the conduct of combat operations. This is known to everyone except you, but because of you alone they will not make an amendment like ... "We explain especially for Cheburek that we are starting hostilities in Ukraine." Although you may have heard about the NWO, you did not know that it is in Ukraine. But these are your difficulties. And if the SVO is in Ukraine, is it really necessary to explain with whom the hostilities are being fought. Or do you need to explain every moment as in that joke "A shrub is a collection of leaves and branches sticking out of one place"
            2. +1
              5 October 2022 19: 26
              Where in the official documents it is indicated that we are at war with the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Ukraine.

              I understand that it’s not horse food, but nevertheless ... Try to feel the difference between "war with Ukraine"and" special military operation in Ukraine"... And try to comprehend the conscious choice of 95% of the citizens of the recently Ukrainian regions - in which state they wanted to live further. And why.
    2. Mwg
      +3
      5 October 2022 16: 30
      "Can someone explain..." - hmm... Cheburek doesn't understand...
      1. -6
        5 October 2022 16: 40
        And you see, you understand that you didn’t have any words besides abstraction ...
      2. +2
        5 October 2022 16: 46
        Quote: MVG
        "Can someone explain..." - hmm... Cheburek doesn't understand...

        And they won't understand. They've been zombified for too long.
        1. -8
          5 October 2022 16: 54
          [/quote]And do not understand. They have been zombified for too long. [/ Quote]
          The funniest comment, and this was said by the "Natsik" from TopWar ...
          1. Mwg
            +3
            5 October 2022 17: 59
            "... and this was said by the "Natsik" from TopWar ..." - what a familiar answer in these anxious days: to get ahead of the accusations of what, perhaps, he himself is to blame ... And it is very typical for people from unfortunate Ukraine ...
  5. -2
    5 October 2022 15: 49
    And what? Is it happening en masse across the front?
    1. +4
      5 October 2022 16: 00
      Nothing! A good proof of the essence of the Kyiv regime. And what's with the mass?
    2. -1
      5 October 2022 16: 05
      Quote: parusnik
      And what? Is it happening en masse across the front?

      This is to the fact that there are "bad" VSUshniks, and there are "good" ones. To destroy them, not at the same time they did not become hardened, and nevertheless they were taken prisoner.

      At the same time, no one noticed that the number of prisoners has NOT been growing for three months?
      Seven thousand prisoners, with almost a hundred thousand dead in more than seven months, suggests that this "diarrhea about the fraternal people" from our media at the front was hammered with a "big bolt" and the phrase "mowing dill" has acquired a literal meaning.
      1. -1
        5 October 2022 17: 06
        At the same time, no one noticed that the number of prisoners has NOT been growing for three months?

        Were busy .. First, "regrouping", then the retreat. Somehow it was not up to the prisoners.
      2. +1
        5 October 2022 19: 32
        At the same time, no one noticed that the number of prisoners has NOT been growing for three months?
        Seven thousand prisoners, with almost a hundred thousand dead in more than seven months, suggests that this "diarrhea about the fraternal people" from our media at the front was hammered with a "big bolt" and the phrase "mow dill" has acquired a literal meaning

        is one possible explanation.
        And there is a simpler one: these seven thousand prisoners were formed during the offensive phase of the NMD, and as soon as the LBS ceased to noticeably move towards the enemy, the influx of prisoners was sharply reduced. Which is logical.
  6. +2
    5 October 2022 15: 57
    Fascists - they are fascists! Now, even these christians from their Nazi leadership are fucked up!
  7. -7
    5 October 2022 15: 59
    Who cares what they say? Now more important is what is happening at the front and how our command is going to rectify the situation! Everything seemed to be going well, and then once and everything got up! Disappeared news about the broken refineries, attacks on Nikolaev, Kharkov! These hasty referendums, what were they deciding now, especially considering that not all of the territory was liberated? Or was the collapse already visible after Balakleya and they simply covered themselves with referendums? It seems to me that only with millions of our lives and not with such power will we have to win a place under the sun! The feeling that the war concerns only the participants and their families and those who "live" mostly news from the front!
    1. +2
      5 October 2022 16: 08
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Everything seemed to be going well, and then once and everything got up!

      Here it is, LIKE!
      This is until the enemy comes to his senses, until real professionals get down to business in an adult way!
      You can't play "good will", you can't help but come to the battlefield, for real, in full force, and ... a lot of other things are impossible.
      1. +1
        6 October 2022 09: 29
        But how Dyumin will come ... yes, he will become the Minister of Defense ... Something will change anyway.
        1. 0
          6 October 2022 09: 56
          We do not influence the events, we see / feel only the consequences.
          How will it be, the question is?
          The world has turned upside down a long time ago and few people remember, understand that this is POWER FOR THE PEOPLE, and not PEOPLE FOR POWER!!!
    2. -2
      5 October 2022 16: 11
      Who cares what they say? Now more important is what is happening at the front and how our command is going to rectify the situation! Everything seemed to be going well, and then once and everything got up! Disappeared news about the broken refineries, attacks on Nikolaev, Kharkov!

      Another boy popped up soldier
      An article about another commentator.
      1. -3
        5 October 2022 16: 23
        Exactly what the article is about! "They're all bad, we're all good"! Events at the front best show who has what!
    3. -7
      5 October 2022 16: 12
      It's impossible to find meaning in referendums.
      But life will answer us and clarify whether the referendums were held just like that, or is it a deliberate step.
    4. +2
      5 October 2022 16: 24
      "And who cares what they say?"

      Everyone needs to know this, otherwise some people here want to say that they are white and fluffy. And here is their whole essence.
  8. -1
    5 October 2022 16: 04
    The servicemen of the 25th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who left their positions accused their command of giving the order to “kill everyone”
    . So what???
    We will wage an "information war", but how are things going on the battlefields, is everything okay?
    1. 0
      5 October 2022 16: 15
      We will wage an "information war", but how are things going on the battlefields, is everything okay?
      not all is well. We'll fix it. It is necessary to correct everything in a complex and it is necessary to wage an information war. There is no catastrophe (for all our failures) at the front.
      1. -1
        5 October 2022 16: 23
        Just a soldier's, folk truth ... how do big ranks / commanders launder their dressed trousers ??? Guess the first time.
        The names of the HEROES who saved the situation, we may never know ... this is SAD.
        But the names of those who created this situation should be known and thanked, as expected.
      2. -3
        5 October 2022 16: 28
        If we don't dance on the "rake" again! Life shows that Ukrainians have the same "dances" for us!
    2. +1
      5 October 2022 19: 37
      the results on the battlefield are sooooo well connected to the situation on the information front. The Great Patriotic War is a powerful example of this. Propaganda did not just get a lot of attention from all the parties involved in the war.
      1. -1
        5 October 2022 19: 52
        One is inseparable from the other, it is true, but the priorities must be set correctly.
        When the seams are on the battlefield, then propaganda will not save you from defeat.
        At this point in time, it's not the seams, of course, but there are losses of various kinds and not small ones.
        You can see that urya urya, wave a saber, like a cow’s tongue got down from here, and in many other places, although there are no serious reasons to tear hairs, in some places.
        Here they are, woe patriots ....
        And those who clench their teeth tighter and lace up their berets, they don’t care about information battles, ABSOLUTELY.
  9. +3
    5 October 2022 16: 24
    But at the same time, they never once said "we do not want to fight at all." They want. And they will. Here they will receive a new command, weapons - and they will go like little ones. Therefore, they remain enemies. Well, maybe, perhaps, worthy enemies - who, unlike the vast majority of the ukrovermacht, do not find pleasure in the mass extermination of civilians ...
  10. -8
    5 October 2022 16: 32
    It is hard to believe that the order to shoot at everyone was given. Moreover, the fact that these military men are not afraid to talk about it openly. War time. For such things, they should not be patted on the head.
    Although, on the other hand, they will not be sent further than the front. Maybe the feeling of fear is really dulled. Two deaths do not happen, what do they have to lose.
    Some doubts, you do not know what to believe.
  11. 0
    5 October 2022 17: 19
    Quote: Vladimir M
    For the sake of justice, the 25th brigade at 14 did not want to fight, it even began to load on railway transport at one time to disperse the Maidan in Kyiv, but Vshivyy chickened out, escaped and was returned to the PPD. They even tried to disband this brigade, for cowardice. Sodol led the 25th brigade at that time, then he became the commander of the Marine Corps of Ukraine. This summer, Azov soldiers killed him while driving through a checkpoint near Mariupol, a muddy story turned out there.

    For the sake of justice, you don’t know much about this brigade, or rather about its composition. Including who she was staffed with later. And they did not communicate with its commanders and military personnel. Not at the front but in the rear. So there is no need to protect them, otherwise bad thoughts come.
  12. +1
    5 October 2022 17: 30
    While the fighting is going on, this brigade is the same enemy, without exception, subject to liquidation or capture. The fact that these servicemen disobeyed the order of their command does not change anything, it is their personal choice.
  13. 0
    5 October 2022 20: 11
    If there is a reaction from the banderlogs, then we should add staged videos to this. No one canceled counterpropaganda.
  14. -1
    5 October 2022 20: 14
    One thing pleases that Ukrainians realize and lose confidence in the criminal power of Zelensky, though at too high a price.
  15. ZoV
    -2
    5 October 2022 20: 31
    A lot of incomprehensible things are now on the internet .. But the main point is that the territories are already included in Russia! And this is another war ..
  16. -1
    5 October 2022 21: 20
    We should really worry more about our positions.
    And, for the position of UA, our partners will be worried.
    Moreover, partners are worried much more successfully, judging by many signs ...
  17. 0
    6 October 2022 07: 51
    If this is not a performance, they will bang the men.
  18. 0
    6 October 2022 15: 03
    Nacistická Ukrajina každý den dokazuje, že operace armády Ruska byla nutná. Bude ještě více oblastí, kde se budou chtít lidé pomocí REFERENDA připojit k Rusku! Zelenského z toho trefí slak..
  19. 0
    7 October 2022 14: 18
    Units of any army that have left their positions are hardly credible. "And every excuse will find itself to justify" ©
  20. 0
    10 October 2022 09: 40
    Why is this video not in the top of all Russian media, including in new territories?