UK expands Ukrainian military training program

The UK has expanded the training program for Ukrainian military personnel by adding courses for junior commanders. The first sergeants from the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already arrived in the United Kingdom.

The British Ministry of Defense expanded the training program for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which previously included only combined arms training for the Ukrainian military. Now the British have launched training courses for junior commanders, in which the sergeants of the Armed Forces of Ukraine study several new disciplines such as leadership and psychology at once, they conduct classes in methodological, fire, technical and tactical training. Required to study and international humanitarian law.

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine emphasized that the courses were developed on the basis of the Ukrainian sergeant training program, but taking into account the combat experience gained in the course of "repelling aggression" of the Russian army. Training is conducted by both British military instructors and Ukrainian ones, who have combat experience and have been trained under the guidance of NATO instructors. Trained junior commanders will be appointed to the positions of squad commanders in subdivisions of various branches of the armed forces.

The British training program for the Ukrainian military is already bearing fruit, the trained fighters participated in the battles in the Kharkiv region, near Balakleya and Izyum, in the area of ​​Kupyansk and Krasny Liman. It is noted that the training of such soldiers as a whole exceeds the general level of the military personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but is not something outstanding. As our people at the forefront emphasized: "better than the Teroboronists, but they are far from special forces." At the same time, it is noted that they act competently, within the framework of the acquired knowledge.

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[Mavrikiy]

UK expands Ukrainian military training program

Let them invest the loot and wait for the exhaust. Where will they be in 3 years?

[Cheburek]

What about the border with the Russian Federation and after 3 years?

[cold wind]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Let them invest the loot and wait for the exhaust. Where will they be in 3 years?

The exhaust is already there. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are fighting exactly according to British methods. This is helped by training and "advisers".
3 years later? Now it is not clear how far from Kherson they will be in 3 days.

[credo]

The exhaust is already there. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are fighting exactly according to British methods. This is helped by training and "advisers".
3 years later? Now it is not clear how far from Kherson they will be in 3 days.

There is useful information in this message for our side, but it is not entirely clear whether we use it or not.
We, too, would do well to train more intensively the military of Syria, friendly African and Latin American countries, so that they begin to create problems for the Anglo-Saxons in different parts of the world.
Rely on the prudence of the "civilized world" only to deceive themselves.

[cold wind]

Quote: credo

We, too, would do well to train more intensively the military of Syria, friendly African and Latin American countries, so that they begin to create problems for the Anglo-Saxons in different parts of the world.

Of course I understand that Arabs, Latinos and other Africans are more important, but maybe it's worth starting with training your army?

[aleksr2005]

No need to laugh, the result is great.
Ukrainian Telegram channel writes.
Our source in the OP said that the General Staff now has 300 troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front, of which almost 50 have been trained in Britain and the EU. The largest and most trained part of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is now operating in the Kharkov direction - about 70 thousand people and almost a thousand heavy equipment. 40 thousand soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and 300 various guns and heavy equipment take part in the #Battle_for_Kherson.

[Rosemary]

Quote: aleksr2005

Ukrainian Telegram channel writes.
Our source in the OP said that the General Staff now has a 300-strong group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front, of which almost 50 thousand were trained in Britain and the EU.

Well, this Ukrainian Telegram lied - the then Prime Minister Johnson promised Zelensky to start training Ukrainian soldiers in the UK during his June visit to Kyiv, and then it was about training 10 Ukrainian troops every 120 days.
The British would not have had time to prepare 50 thousand troops in 3,5 months (115 days). And other European countries have begun preparing dill recently, and in much smaller volumes.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

The next stage is the training of thousands of Svidomo officers and hundreds of generals! Oh how!

[Cheburek]

1 hour ago, source: © RIA Novosti. The Russian military is regrouping in the Kherson region.

[donavi49]

In the morning, military correspondents wrote that they had left Snigurivka and were reducing the ledge. This is reasonable and clear on the map. However, this is precisely the traffic jam on the highway to Kherson with the best defensive capabilities. In Baratovka or Oleksandrovka it will be much more difficult to defend.

However, there are no proofs for the APU in Snigurivka yet

[single-n]

Something now, any wording evokes bad associations ... So they distorted the language with their "claps", "goodwill gestures", "negative growths" that now even a completely harmless statement causes just not panic.

[spirit]

What to say?! It is not regrettable, but from a military point of view, the British are great, in a short period they worked out the training of "mobiks" and now they are expanding and modernizing it. Now let's see what our "specialists" (who in peacetime could teach as much as a revenge parade ground) will teach. There is no single System, Real specialists, and at least motivated.

[Rosemary]

The British infantry school is rightfully considered the best in the world, but there is one thing but - The British course called "Infantry Fighter Course" is designed for 26 weeks (182 days) and consists of 2 stages: the young fighter course, and the features of service in the infantry. For sergeants (non-commissioned officers) there is a 3rd stage and an additional two-week course.
So the British will not be able to train many Ukrainian soldiers in six months, and if the course is accelerated, then it will no longer be the British "Infantry Fighter Course", but its surrogate.

[rotmistr60]

UK expands Ukrainian military training program

Everything for the Ukrainian front, everything for the Western "victory". The Anglo-Saxon louse is trying to actively drink Slavic blood. Will there finally be kerosene for it (in the old days, this infection was removed from them)?

[single-n]

Weird . For some reason, the Armed Forces of Ukraine may be preparing their soldiers 1000 km from the front, while ours, on the contrary, are sent to the Donbass. It's the only place where training can take place. Well, judging by the rather frisky advance of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ....

[tihonmarine]

The UK has expanded the training program for Ukrainian military personnel by adding courses for junior commanders.

"It's better to train the natives than to die ourselves."- so the Britons said about the Indian sepoys.
Inside every person there is a struggle between an evil wolf and a good one. Is always
the wolf you feed wins

[Boniface]

I'll see, these Small-Shavens have gone into a rage!
How they hate Russia!

[donavi49]

I personally do not understand the point of being indignant? We did the same. Remind me where Koreans were trained during the Korean War? And the Vietnamese? And the Cubans? And the Syrians, Iraqis and Egyptians (by the way, tomorrow it will be 49 years since the battle in the Valley of Tears, where the plan was drawn up by the General Staff and corrected on the spot by a group of military advisers, the officers of both divisions were trained in the union, and the materiel was new, only rolled by Syrian crews, which allowed minimize non-combat losses on the march and in maneuvers)? And the other side accepted the rules of the game.

On the contrary, one should rejoice that the volumes of supplies and training are still not close to those that the USSR implemented in opposition to the capitalists.

[ximkim]

As soon as the Armed Forces of Ukraine come closer to the Crimea, the supply of weapons from the West. increase. Plus, for sure, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are holding the RSZO for the LDNR.

[donavi49]

If they reach Kakhovka-Berislav, this is not only a huge problem for the group, but also systematic arrivals in Armyansk (Crimea) with already delivered missiles, as the main artery for supplying the entire group (not only in Kherson).

As for new weapons, there will be a lot of announcements next week, for the reporting meeting in Ramstein with Austin. According to the MLRS, they have enough M270 / Himars for two advancing groups, rather a shortage of self-propelled guns (especially of the M109 / Akatsiya type). There is no materiel for the third one yet.

[Liam]

Quote: donavi49

If they reach Kakhovka-Berislav

))))

Do you seriously assume that the Russian Army will remain to beat the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on a patch 10/15 km deep with a kilometer-long river behind without bridges on the eve of winter? ... is this from the same prediction opera as the stable front along the Oskol River 3 weeks ago .Same realistic)

Quote: donavi49

There is no materiel for the third one yet.

I see you, too, have not learned anything during these 7 and especially the last 2 months of the war

[donavi49]

I see you, too, have not learned anything during these 7 and especially the last 2 months of the war

I try to be based on actual deliveries, confirmed facts, etc.

There are no available M270 / Himarsov + artillery groups for 3 serious offensives. Now, if they had found at least 60x155 mm of trunks and 10-12 Himarsov / M270, then yes, three equivalent strikes would have been quite enough. And then, perhaps the question of logistics would come out. And yes, now in three strikes, the allied forces would crumble and the choice would be nuclear or surrender.

However, nowhere did I write that a third strike was impossible. Sirsky (it is he who rules in the east, by the way, another typical "Banderonazi" - he cannot connect two memorized words for cameras in Ukrainian without surzhik-Russian, a graduate with honors from MVVKU) - does not like to hammer into fortified areas. That is, if they stall, it is likely that they will transfer resources, for example, to the Zaporozhye direction and try to advance there in Tokmak-Melitopol.

[Liam]

Quote: donavi49

I try to be based on actual deliveries, confirmed facts, etc.

There are no available M270 / Himarsov + artillery groups for 3 serious offensives.

I respectfully object that these are just your assumptions. Can you indicate which art group was under Balakleya or now under Izyum? And now how many trunks provide the Kherson breakthrough?

Agree that you have no idea. Like me, however. Therefore, these are groundless statements ..

What can be accurately stated is that in these offensives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, artillery plays not even a secondary role. It cannot be otherwise ... no artillery in large quantities can advance at such a pace. And no massive artillery preparations were carried out before their start. This is not the Russian Army with its передовой tactics.
These offensives - numerous mobile groups in light armored vehicles seep into the rear and the defeat of the rear and the pursuit of the fleeing begins.
By the way, the lack of artillery in the ranks of the attackers explains, by the way, that the Russian troops manage to get out of the boilers lightly.

So artillery is clearly not a factor for predicting the Malitopol offensive.

What can be said for sure - the Armed Forces of Ukraine will definitely not give a respite to the Russian Army to regroup, strengthen and approach the reserves. They will forge the iron while it is hot. And the breakthrough to Melitopol, if not final. The collapse of the campaign for the RF Armed Forces is something very close to this. And they understand this everything .. first of all APU

[Rosemary]

Quote: Liam

What can be accurately stated is that in these offensives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, artillery plays not even a secondary role. It cannot be otherwise ... no artillery in large quantities can advance at such a pace. And no massive artillery preparations were carried out before their start.

This is so, there were no massive artillery preparations in the classical form before the start of the offensive, but there were prolonged but constant artillery strikes on the rear, ammunition depots, supply routes, command and strongholds.

What can be accurately stated is that artillery plays an important role in these offensives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[cold wind]

Quote: Liam

These offensives - numerous mobile groups in light armored vehicles seep into the rear and the defeat of the rear and the pursuit of the fleeing begins.

Not in all areas. There are areas where they push tanks and motorized rifle units, the same Davydov ford. But in general the picture is as you described.
Donavi49 is right that the current artillery is not enough for an attack on the 3rd sector. However, two extreme aid packages from the USA, French 6-12 Caesars, possibly unknown supplies + transfer of forces from other fronts + new trained units, this is already enough for an offensive in Zaporozhye. This offensive could lead to a cascading collapse of the entire Kherson-Zaporozhye front.
Usually, they announce deliveries after the weapons have appeared in Ukraine, or they are generally silent.

[Negro]

Quote: Liam

beating the artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on a patch 10/15 km deep with a kilometer-long river behind without bridges on the eve of winter? ..

You were told that we can repeat. There will be a Dnieper patch.

Quote: Liam

You, too, have not learned anything during these 7 and especially the last 2 months of the war

Quote: Liam

And the breakthrough to Melitopol, if not final. The collapse of the campaign for the RF Armed Forces is something very close to this. And everyone understands this .. first of all, the Armed Forces of Ukraine

The course of the special military operation has taught some that it is not necessary to report on future successes. Wait and see.

Quote: Liam

in these offensives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, artillery plays not even a secondary role

It’s just that they are trying to use artillery in a modern way, with a small consumption of high-precision, and not wasting shells by echelons. But its role is still very large, since the Ukrainian side still does not have Western-standard aviation.

[Liam]

Quote: Negro

about future success.

I'm not talking about imaginary successes. But about the fact that such an attempt will definitely be. It cannot but be.

Quote: Negro

they are trying to use artillery in a modern way,

That's right. No hundreds of trunks per kilometer of the front. Therefore, to say that a priori it cannot be enough for three directions is groundless.

Quote: Negro

The Ukrainian side still does not have Western-standard aviation.

In this strange war, the role of tactical aviation for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is performed by Himarsy. The RF Armed Forces also do not have aviation .. and there is nothing even close in terms of characteristics like Himarsy. Therefore, we have what we have

[Negro]

Quote: Liam

That's right. No hundreds of trunks per kilometer of the front. Therefore, to say that a priori it cannot be enough for three directions is groundless.

Why hundreds of trunks? Your interlocutor quite reasonably speaks of an approximately divisional set of artillery. Roughly 3x6 guns and 6 highmars per brigade. These are quite reasonable guesses. Another thing is that the Ukrainians have at least two hundred barrels, so it may be enough for the third set.

Quote: Liam

And that such an attempt will certainly be.

Let's wait and see again.

Quote: Liam

The RF Armed Forces also do not have aviation .. and there is nothing even close in terms of characteristics like Himarsy.

Let's go without the prodigy. The capabilities of the Hymars are limited to a depth of 50-60 kilometers from the line of contact. This is a lot, but not that a guarantee of victory.

[Liam]

Quote: Negro

Roughly 3x6 guns and 6 highmars per brigade.

Do you seriously think that the Khimars of the Ukrainians are in brigade subordination?

The estimates are very simple. There are 4 TVD sections. Lugansk, Donetsk, Zaporozhye and Kherson. Donbass is now at minimum wages. They only hold the necessary minimum there so that the Wagnerites continue to smash their foreheads against concrete walls.
There are 3 active sites left. 4-5 brigades per site are working by eye in offensives. With their brigade artillery. How much is the brigade supposed to have there? Division? 20 barrels per brigade. For 15 brigades, 300 barrels. There are about 155 foreign 200 mm barrels alone. And hundreds of regular 152 mm barrels. And the rumors about the complete absence of shells for them are greatly exaggerated.
Himarsy is a means of a senior commander. 27 pieces for 3 sections are enough.

Quote: Negro

. The capabilities of the Hymars are limited to a depth of 50-60 kilometers from the line of contact

That's right. Tactical aviation at minimum wages. On the other hand, this is not

[ximkim]

Quote: donavi49

If they reach Kakhovka-Berislav, this is not only a huge problem for the group, but also systematic arrivals in Armyansk (Crimea) with already delivered missiles, as the main artery for supplying the entire group (not only in Kherson).

As for new weapons, there will be a lot of announcements next week, for the reporting meeting in Ramstein with Austin. According to the MLRS, they have enough M270 / Himars for two advancing groups, rather a shortage of self-propelled guns (especially of the M109 / Akatsiya type). There is no materiel for the third one yet.

IMHO. The whole trouble is that we have five foremen for one slave.

[Dikson]

"better than the Teroboronists, but they are far from special forces" ... Yeah. clear. But ours, those that are 300 - how much cooler are they? Do they care about special forces? If only small sapper shovels were given out .. as in the DMB movie. In skillful hands, a shovel is a terrible weapon. Only the pitchfork is worse.