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Military correspondents spoke about the situation near Kremennaya and Svatovo

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Military correspondents spoke about the situation near Kremennaya and Svatovo

As of the morning of October 4, there were no cardinal changes in the Kreminnaya area. Due to low cloud cover and rain, the enemy does not demonstrate high activity, since it is deprived of the possibility of the full use of unmanned aerial vehicles in such weather.


Rubizhne and Lisichansk came under fire from the artillery of the Ukrainian army at night. The consequences of the attacks have not yet been reported.

Russian troops like сообщает Telegram channel Kotsnews continue to “conditionally control” the road to Svatovo. However, enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups continue to operate on this highway. For this reason, the military commander reports the “conditional” control of the road by Russian troops.

The enemy can shoot through this highway, but the armored vehicles are still moving along it to other points of defense. Civilian vehicles no longer drive because of the high risk of being destroyed by shelling. However, the road itself was not closed.

Other military correspondents note that the active construction of a defense line in the Kremennaya area continues in order to completely stop the enemy’s advance.

And that's what сообщает Igor Strelkov:

The situation is not completely clear, but there is unverified information that the enemy has already managed to cut the Rubizhnoye-Svatovo highway and, with his advanced groups, is threatening to reach the rear of the Svatovo garrison and envelop Kremennaya-Rubizhnoye.

According to intelligence data, Ukrainian troops will not focus on Severodonetsk and Lysichansk, but will try to move on Svatovo. From there, you can launch an attack on Starobelsk. If this happens, there will be a risk that the Ukrainian army will open a second direction. Then Kremennaya, Rubizhnoye and Lisichansk will be under attack. A blow from Belogorovka may also follow.

The main problem of the Russian troops remains the lack of forces in this direction, which made possible an active Ukrainian attack on the areas under the control of our forces.

At the same time, the West fears that while all attention is focused on the Liman-Kremennaya-Svatovo front, Russian troops may deliver a blow that the Ukrainian command does not expect today, and therefore will not be able to contain.
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  1. Machito
    Machito 4 October 2022 10: 59
    +2
    Creating new lines of defense from scratch is always difficult. It is necessary to create rear lines of defense in order to ensure its depth. But no one.
    1. ViktorX
      ViktorX 4 October 2022 11: 07
      -5
      While there was no rain and if the weather was dry, it was necessary to set fire to the forest ....
      1. Machito
        Machito 4 October 2022 17: 00
        +2
        Yevkurov should be appointed commander of the Ukrainian Front with broad powers, or Kadyrov should be appointed Minister of Defense. You need charisma. Need a will. And we chew snot and make agreements.
    2. Silver99
      Silver99 4 October 2022 11: 07
      +4
      Most of our troubles at the front, in that it takes an eternity from the detection of the enemy to the strike, the decision to use aviation is made almost by the commander of the district, in the same Kherson steppes three !!! During the day, the accumulation of troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was going on, they were concentrated in a heap and we were inactive (((can front-line aviation be subordinated to the platoon commander, and strategic battalion commanders? decisions will be made more quickly, bitter humor.
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        1. invisible_man
          invisible_man 4 October 2022 11: 32
          +5
          "Oh, don't rush to bury us" (c)
          1. Himalayan
            Himalayan 4 October 2022 11: 43
            -3
            Alas, but there was a whole science - logic.
            And all the previous actions of the military-political leadership of Russia - its inaction and actions (columns on the march, pseudo-humanism and goodwill gestures of an elderly vizier surrounded by gopars),
            the inclusion of all the scientific, technical, technological, economic power of NATO (USA) does not leave even a ghostly chance for Russia in this war. They (the Kremlin and the military - the generals) They themselves missed and rejected all the overtone windows


            Yes, there is still a complete inability to elementary forecasting of events more than within the line of sight of events
            1. gsev
              gsev 4 October 2022 13: 45
              -2
              Quote: Himalayan
              the inclusion of all the scientific, technical, technological, economic power of NATO (USA) does not leave even a ghostly chance for Russia in this war.

              50 special ammunition in all major cities of Western Ukraine, and in the next 50 years we will have no problems with those who want to conquer the Russians and take Kherson and Crimea from them. If necessary, repeat the strike several times on new targets. Only Kadyrov needs to convince Putin of this, if he does not want the death of his special forces near Khmayers.
      2. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 4 October 2022 11: 20
        +2
        Most of our troubles at the front
        Not at the front at all.
      3. hellcos
        hellcos 4 October 2022 11: 33
        +3
        I think that the problem is deeper and has common roots with the problem of unexploded equipment during the "regrouping". No one wants to take responsibility, because they care first of all about their own skin and their chosen loved ones. The problems of the army as one of the reflections of the problems of the all-Russian. Of course, not all without exception are like that, I mean the trend as a whole in the direction of "my hut is on the sidelines."
        1. vinschu
          vinschu 4 October 2022 13: 43
          +2
          Unfortunately, there are more and more "khataskrayniks". And this is the real "sadness-sadness"
      4. Sergey Kuzmin
        Sergey Kuzmin 5 October 2022 07: 47
        0
        can front-line aviation be subordinated to the platoon commander, and strategic battalion commanders? decisions will be made more quickly, bitter humor.
        Actually, this is a sound decision. If a helicopter or an airplane is assigned to each motorized rifle platoon, then this will be very effective in terms of hitting targets! And as for the use of strategic aviation - missile carriers, it IS NECESSARY to do this URGENTLY! One conventional air-to-surface missile from such a missile carrier can completely destroy an auto-railway bridge, or cover a mass concentration of enemy troops at a distance of 300-400 km. The "strategists" have a lot of missiles being decommissioned. So dispose of them during these combat shootings. Everything will be more useful than destroying them at idle at the landfills
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 4 October 2022 11: 40
      0
      It is necessary to intimidate the enemy, urgently accept Kyiv and its suburbs as part of Russia, so that no one understands anything, but everyone was scared to the point of laughter. What's next? There is where to retreat, it’s far from Moscow, is this a mega-cunning plan? ??
      1. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 4 October 2022 11: 43
        0
        urgently accept Kyiv and its suburbs as part of Russia
        Such a decision may well fit into the framework of the endless stream of delirium, so it would be funny if it were not so sad.
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      2. Sergey Drozdov
        Sergey Drozdov 5 October 2022 13: 27
        0
        Moreover, we, the Great Russians, officially acquired Kyiv as a result of an agreement with the Commonwealth in the framework of the “Eternal Peace” of 1686 and paid 146 thousand rubles.
        All documents are in place, but the issue has never been raised. It would be interesting to know "what Comrade Lavrov thinks about this"?
  2. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 4 October 2022 11: 03
    +23
    And should the weather be such an important factor in the fighting of such a powerful structure as the Russian army? I'm not kidding, I really do not understand what is happening, and why rain and snow have become indispensable conditions for successful (or unsuccessful) hostilities? After all, everything was different before: I have been hearing about the "all-weather army" since the 70s of the last century. And, by the way, then she was such! Planes were not afraid of clouds, tanks were not afraid of mud, ships were not afraid of storms, soldiers were not afraid of anything at all! The soldiers are not afraid of anything even now, they are real heroes ... Where did everything else go?
    1. invisible_man
      invisible_man 4 October 2022 11: 09
      +3
      Planes were not afraid of clouds, tanks were not afraid of mud, ships were not afraid of storms, soldiers were not afraid of anything at all!

      What was there to be afraid of in the 70s, during the exercises? Until February of this year, they were also not afraid to show off with Armats and other splendor.
    2. Smoked
      Smoked 4 October 2022 11: 14
      +5
      When the weather is clear, although you can’t hear your own on the air, that is, there is no coordination of actions, but at least you can see it. And our army did not prepare for action against a modern enemy with other capabilities and manner of action.
      1. Sergey Kuzmin
        Sergey Kuzmin 5 October 2022 07: 38
        0
        And our army was not preparing for action against a modern enemy with other capabilities and manner of action.
        Who got in the way of getting ready? Since 2014, hundreds of thousands of people from Novorossiya have been asking the Russian President: PROTECT US!
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      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 4 October 2022 11: 50
        -6
        the first wave of 300 thousand is on its way
    4. russ71
      russ71 4 October 2022 11: 15
      -1
      The rest is on paper ... there we should already take Kyiv!
    5. Dedok
      Dedok 4 October 2022 11: 17
      +11
      Quote: Peter_Koldunov
      Should the weather be such an important factor in the fighting of such a powerful structure as the Russian army?

      how to justify inaction...
      soon the neighbor's dead cow will be the cause...
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    6. Thrifty
      Thrifty 4 October 2022 12: 14
      +3
      Pyotr Koldunov - the weather is now the very "scapegoat" on which you can hang any forgiveness in the war.
  3. Nikolay_070
    Nikolay_070 4 October 2022 11: 06
    -10
    Well, if “the West is afraid”, then everything is fine!
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 4 October 2022 11: 37
      0
      it means everything is OK!
      Who.......?
      1. Nikolay_070
        Nikolay_070 4 October 2022 11: 45
        +1
        Quote: Trapp1st
        Who.......?

        The author of the article, apparently.
  4. Dilettante grandfather
    Dilettante grandfather 4 October 2022 11: 10
    0
    Strelkov is now a military commander? What media does he work in?
    The article is called "Military correspondents told ...". At the same time, the article mentions 1 telegram channel and Strelkov. What the hell, please tell me.
    1. invisible_man
      invisible_man 4 October 2022 11: 12
      +1
      A military commissar does not have to work in the media. He can also be an independent journalist covering events at the front. By the way, Strelkov is now performing in this unusual role for himself.
      1. Dilettante grandfather
        Dilettante grandfather 4 October 2022 11: 20
        0
        Well okay. I will not argue about Strelkov. But the headline speaks of military commanders in the plural. I didn’t see stories from military correspondents here (bracketing Strelkov, whom I still don’t consider a war correspondent).
        1. invisible_man
          invisible_man 4 October 2022 11: 26
          -4
          Here are not the stories of military correspondents themselves, but their thesis presentation.
    2. Boris Sergeev
      Boris Sergeev 4 October 2022 11: 14
      +15
      Alas, information from Strelkov often turns out to be much more accurate than from military correspondents, who, after all, are built into the "vertical".
      1. Boris Sergeev
        Boris Sergeev 4 October 2022 11: 14
        +4
        Here's more from Strelkov:

        Information was received that the first act of the authorities of the renewed and enlarged Russian Federation in the city of Svatovo was an order to the population "to carry out self-evacuation at 72 hours."

        How cute is that, isn't it?! But they could (as it was in Kupyansk or Izyum) not warn ahead of time at all!
        And about helping people evacuate - this is, excuse me, "a luxury unacceptable in military conditions." Sami! All by yourself!

        Quote from there (spelling preserved):
        "... Carriers are breaking crazy prices. Today, taxi drivers did not work in Starobelsk. Everyone took out Svatovo. Those who have money."
    3. russ71
      russ71 4 October 2022 11: 18
      +6
      I also did not treat him very well before ... some alarmist thought ...

      So lately all his predictions have come true! And from the Moscow Region we hear only one thing ... destroyed by high-precision ... and then redeployment, etc. !!!
      1. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 4 October 2022 11: 49
        +6
        Yes, Strelkov’s news makes you think:

        Fierce fighting continued all day on the Kherson front yesterday. The enemy directed the main efforts to the Berislav direction - advancing in the Dudchan area (most of it was taken by the enemy, our troops retreated, blowing up the reservoir dam) and Davydov Broda, where the situation for our units is also constantly deteriorating. The enemy has superiority in everything, even using aviation.

        In the Svatovsky direction of the Luhansk Front (from the Seversky Donets to the former border with the Russian Federation) - our troops continued to withdraw. The situation is not completely clear, but there is unverified information that the enemy has already managed to cut the Rubizhnoye-Svatovo highway and, with his advanced groups, is threatening to reach the rear of the Svatovo garrison and envelop Kremennaya-Rubizhnoye.
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  5. Uprun
    Uprun 4 October 2022 11: 15
    -2
    Is the vacation time at the General Staff of the RF Ministry of Defense over? Can we start doing something or pretending to do something?
    1. Himalayan
      Himalayan 4 October 2022 12: 02
      +7
      It's just the limit. It's like starting a special operation without providing her with a supply of blood. And when special complications come, it remains stupidly on the ball to save the dying patient, calling for help from all surgeons-handshops
  6. Cheburek
    Cheburek 4 October 2022 11: 22
    -2
    "Due to low cloud cover and rain, the enemy does not show high activity, since it is deprived of the possibility of the full use of unmanned aerial vehicles in such weather.", "The enemy can shoot through this highway, but the armored vehicles are still moving along it to other defense points.", "If this will happen, there will be a risk that the Ukrainian army will open a second direction." Do you feel stability?
  7. bandabas
    bandabas 4 October 2022 11: 22
    +8
    I’m waiting for Konashenkov to tell in his next press release about 200 nationalists PERSONALLY liquidated by him, 5 tanks and a bunch of small things like drones. For the last days.
    1. vital.33
      vital.33 4 October 2022 17: 07
      0
      And "Kraken" is a must...
  8. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 4 October 2022 11: 23
    +14
    We arrived ... on the eighth !!! month we are talking about at the very least defense against dill ... what's next, the heroic defense of Kursk, Belgorod, Rostov ??? sycophantic environment. The situation is exactly similar to 1914-1917. I hope everyone knows the history of the Russian state.
    1. Sergey Kuzmin
      Sergey Kuzmin 5 October 2022 07: 32
      0
      ... it's not so much the lack of personnel, but the mediocrity of the commander-in-chief and his sycophantic entourage. The situation is exactly the same as in 1914-1917. I hope everyone knows the history of the Russian state.
      And He Himself knows about it, do you think? He is likely to be elected for another term ...)))
  9. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 4 October 2022 11: 31
    -3
    And they are not hitting the territory of some unrecognized LDNR, but they are hitting the territory of the Russian !!!!! those who have already officially entered, approved by the State Duma and the Federation Council.!!!
    1. KAVBER
      KAVBER 4 October 2022 12: 04
      +1
      Not yet, because "the procedure for the admission of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions into Russia will end with amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation on the basis of the relevant decree of Vladimir PUTIN"
  10. musorg
    musorg 4 October 2022 12: 19
    +6
    And who hasn't made the decision to mobilize before? However, there are no culprits. As it is not known where 1,5 million sets of uniforms sailed. So you can continue to back up until December.
  11. alex aircraft
    alex aircraft 4 October 2022 12: 39
    +6
    Can you imagine NATO's MLRS strikes against the USSR in the 80s under frankly ill Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko ??? this was unthinkable, because the answer would be !! and EVERYONE wipes their feet on the country !!! even the pygmies of the Balts. no guys, not something in the kingdom ...
    1. trenkkvaz
      trenkkvaz 4 October 2022 13: 42
      +1
      Under these figures, our planes and helicopters were shot down with the help of NATO MANPADS.
      And what did the USSR do in response?
      1. alex aircraft
        alex aircraft 4 October 2022 15: 14
        0
        Afghan was not part of the USSR, and now there are 4 new subjects in the Russian Federation and this is official.
        1. trenkkvaz
          trenkkvaz 4 October 2022 15: 25
          0
          Well, you see, during the time of these figures there were no annexations of new territories. Then it makes sense to cite them as an example, if the situation is completely different.
    2. solar
      solar 4 October 2022 14: 41
      0
      None of them actually joined the USSR after the war.
  12. koralevviktor
    koralevviktor 4 October 2022 12: 53
    0
    The initiative has passed to the enemy. This must be acknowledged. But you still need to resist, this is the theory of warfare.
    1. Vovk
      Vovk 4 October 2022 14: 10
      0
      Svatovo will be handed over in 2 days, for the second day there is a spontaneous evacuation of the local population. Info taken from open information sources of the Russian Federation.
      1. Nikolay_070
        Nikolay_070 4 October 2022 14: 40
        0
        And then they will take it as Rubezhnoye. If not like Sands.
        1. koralevviktor
          koralevviktor 4 October 2022 16: 06
          0
          In general, we have a chance of success. How will we restore the line of attack?
      2. koralevviktor
        koralevviktor 4 October 2022 16: 04
        0
        Thank you. We need to help each other fill in the gaps.
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  14. Sergey Kuzmin
    Sergey Kuzmin 5 October 2022 07: 28
    0
    The main problem of the Russian troops remains the lack of forces in this direction, which made possible an active Ukrainian attack on the areas under the control of our forces.
    And who is now the commander of this section of the front? Not Kadyrov, by any chance?