It became known within what borders new subjects will become part of Russia

Russian President Vladimir Putin submitted for ratification to the State Duma agreements on the admission of four new regions to Russia. Deputies will have to make a decision on each new subject separately. The documents have already been published in the database of documents of the State Duma.

All new regions are part of Russia within their administrative boundaries, i.e. the limits of new subjects are determined by the boundaries of the region or republic on the day of its formation and the day of its admission to the Russian Federation. Thus, today part of the territory of Russia is under the control of the Zelensky regime. The borders of the new regions facing a foreign state, in particular Ukraine, will be the state borders of Russia.

New regions are part of Russia in the following statuses: DPR and LPR - republics with capitals in the cities of Donetsk and Lugansk, the state language is Russian. Citizenship of the DPR and LPR ceases from the day the subjects are admitted to the Russian Federation, it follows from the draft, the issuance of Russian passports will begin from the day the republics are admitted to Russia. Zaporozhye and Kherson regions - regions with capitals in Melitopol (before the liberation of Zaporozhye) and Kherson, the state language is Russian. Citizenship of Ukraine terminates from the date of admission of subjects to Russia.

The armed forces of the DPR and LPR will become part of the Russian Armed Forces, we are talking about the 1st and 2nd Corps of the People's Militia of the Republics. According to military experts, the entry of the corps will pass quickly, the fighters have long been operating under the operational subordination of the Russian General Staff, and the supply was also carried out from the arsenals of the RF Armed Forces. After the registration of the necessary documents, all the benefits provided to the military personnel of the Russian Armed Forces will apply to the military republics.

The ratification of the agreements will be held tomorrow, October 3, as previously reported in the State Duma. The Federation Council also assured that they would not delay the consideration of documents either.

Comments

[Buyan]

Welcome to mother Russia, to restore the borders even sooner!!!

[Silver99]

Let's say gop when we jump over. So far, we are only heroically leveling the front and we all hope that it will begin, but I understand intellectually that 300 thousand will obviously not be enough to attack and hold the defense, taking into account the rotation of troops and the natural attrition in combat conditions.

[GO-TO-GO-TO-GO]

My friend, where did you get the idea that there will be 300 tons, there will be as much as necessary. Everything is normal.

[tralflot1832]

I was especially struck that 80000 subpoenas were handed out in St. Petersburg, maybe the journalist added a zero? And how many then in Moscow. Partial mobilization will be wider.

[Kesha1980]

In Mytishchi - 2.000. Information days 5, maybe added. But according to Peter - a dubious number. Tuapse - in the first 2 days - forty and a trifle were called up. It is necessary to separate - the handed summons is not necessarily called, someone is only called to clean up gaps and errors in personal affairs. Probably, order is being put in place in accounting for the storerooms - the result of the Mess. The system is somewhat strange - there is no pattern. In Belorechensk, 1.000 were called, but it is clear that they will not call that many.

[potap6509]

I'm from the Urals, Sverdlovsk region. Baikalovo, there are 200 people from the district, a population of about 10 thousand. About 100 have already left, one Sverdlovsk region should mobilize 9700, I also think that this is the first wave, although of course there is no decree of the Supreme yet. Thoughts.

[tralflot1832]

Correct thoughts. Announce the Supreme mobilization, the whole life of the state must be changed. And there will be noise.

[Hanurik]

What was announced then? There is no such thing as partial mobilization - it's like with self-isolation, when instead of quarantine, the state dumped its responsibilities on the people. Also this moronic mobilization without declaring martial law.

[tralflot1832]

Why didn’t Ukraine declare war on us then? We don’t declare war either, but we are a nuclear power and our Supreme Commander thinks about the people, unlike Zeliboba.

[Hanurik]

I do not understand. Mobilization has been announced from both sides, only we have no martial law. Why the hell are you dragging in a declaration of war? Omitting the fact that she's already on her way.

[storm]

Almost everywhere they call for approximately 0,2-0,3% of the total population of the city / region.
According to the last census, 5,3 million people live in St. Petersburg, therefore 10-15 thousand people will be called up.

[insafufa]

Only from Ufa they call for 5k mobilized, rumors go about 10k throughout the Republic of Bashkortostan. The bulk departed for Saratov, part of Samara. They almost mobilized themselves as a military commissar with sadness in their eyes, who recently returned from the Donbas on rotation, says at least 30% of the personnel of those who went through the second campaign in the Caucasus for mentoring. To my objections that I had forgotten everything and I would have to learn everything all over again, he laughed and said that 40-year-old men with experience when they see 2C3 all remember at the same moment and also give slaps to rookies who seem to have studied in training for half a year, but in fact knowing zero without an application in a smartphone cannot fire. swears that many cannot add two plus two in their minds.

[27091965]

Quote: tralflot1832

I was especially struck that 80000 subpoenas were handed out in St. Petersburg, maybe the journalist added a zero? And how many then in Moscow. Partial mobilization will be wider.

Corrected already, only 8000 subpoenas.

[the most important]

Quote: tralflot1832

I was especially struck that 80000 subpoenas were handed in St. Petersburg, maybe the journalist added a zero? And in Moscow, how many then

The person in charge on TV said that there were 16000 in Moscow. Although, of course, it is doubtful .... 300 is about 000 thousand from every million people. If there are 2 million people in Moscow, then why will 15 people be called? Unclear...

[tralflot1832]

I don’t understand at all what the media gets about the number of mobilized! Mess.

[Horus]

Yes, what are 16000 in Moscow? On the first day of mobilization, there were 400 people in the Chertanovsky military registration and enlistment office alone. I think much more than 16000 thousand, to this day, agendas are being delivered.

[storm]

Multiply the population of Moscow by 0,2% and get 25-30 thousand mobilized.
Throughout Russia, with a population of 150 million people. mobilize 300 thousand, the same 0,2%....

[Dilettante grandfather]

300 is about 000 for every million people. If there are 2 million people in Moscow, then why

Because there are most of all not subject to partial mobilization. Not in service / out of order, booked from such minor troubles, etc.

[Deep Diver]

Yeah, they just call everyone more often. Yes, in some cases there is noise and everything is played back, but this is only in some cases.

[Dilettante grandfather]

Regionally, take note! But not in Moscow. And another nuance. On TV they talk about training grounds, coordination of those mobilized before being sent to the LDNR. A colleague's wife, at work, mobilized her husband. Two days later, I called from there ... Of course, most likely they will train right on the spot, but I mean that neither TV nor the Internet should be too much to believe.

[Deep Diver]

On the Internet, it is possible to turn on VPN and read different points of view, and the TV ... it’s not for nothing that they call it a zombie!

[Dilettante grandfather]

"Different points of view" - are you talking about the Ukronazis? I am not interested in the point of view of the enemy, it is extremely clear in their actions, especially in the genocide of civilians.

[Deep Diver]

O! And here is another victim of the zomboyaschik!

[lis-ik]

Quote: tralflot1832

I was especially struck that 80000 subpoenas were handed out in St. Petersburg, maybe the journalist added a zero? And how many then in Moscow. Partial mobilization will be wider.

I now live in a dacha in the Ruzsky district of the Moscow Region, in the Ruzsky and Mozhaysky districts there are 1000 people. In Ruza district, it cannot be said that there is a lot of population.

[Sarboz]

Quote: tralflot1832

I was especially struck that 80000 subpoenas were handed out in St. Petersburg, maybe the journalist added a zero?

And so the military commissar made a reservation. Already clarified, 8000 subpoenas in St. Petersburg.

[Piramidon]

Quote: tralflot1832

It was especially striking that 80000 subpoenas were handed in St. Petersburg

Infa has passed that this is taking into account the autumn conscription of conscripts who will not fall into the NWO zone.

[lopvlad]

Quote: Piramidon

Infa has passed that this is taking into account the autumn conscription of conscripts who will not fall into the NWO zone.

whose demobilization began to be sent home on October 1, but they will get there. And the call-up from November 1 was made not because of the workload of the military registration and enlistment offices, but because there is nowhere to stir and prepare those mobilized for partial mobilization.

[lopvlad]

Quote: tralflot1832

I was amazed that 80000 subpoenas were handed in St. Petersburg

that you don’t know the military registration and enlistment offices. They always send out subpoenas more than it is necessary to type on the basis that not everyone will come on them.

[newtc7]

Quote: lopvlad

Quote: tralflot1832

I was amazed that 80000 subpoenas were handed in St. Petersburg

that you don’t know the military registration and enlistment offices. They always send out subpoenas more than it is necessary to type on the basis that not everyone will come on them.

Military commissars have always been very stupid. For him, that 80000 that 8000, he probably didn’t even understand the difference

[swan49]

clarified. 8.000 summonses. But also a lot.

[lopvlad]

Quote: swan49

But also a lot.

for almost 5 million inhabitants?. Here, in some cities with a population of less than a million, a plan came from 2 to 3 thousand people to mobilize.

[Romario_Argo]

in total, there will be 1 people in the 56st wave - the ranges for harmonization are not rubber
36000 will go to release contract soldiers in parts in their regions
- for the rotation of the NWO contingent
remains 20 + equipment needed:
since 2018, all infantry fighting vehicles of the 3rd and 4th category of storage have been removed from the storage bases
in stock ready - 1500 units. BMP-1/-1AM, BMP-2, 1500 BTR-82/-80/-70, 500 MTLB
500 BMP-1AM x 11 = 5500; 500 BMP-2 x 10 = 5000
500 BTR-82Am x 10 = 5000; 500 MT-LB x 13 = 6500
500 Ural, Kamaz, Zil (art, mortars, ammunition, mto, pontoons) x 10 = 5000
500 AFV Tiger, Typhoon, Wolf, Arrow, Athlete x 8 = 4000
here at 31 000 so far there is armor
+ launched 2 new repair plants raking out the remaining equipment of the 1st and 2nd category, up to 500 infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers will be issued per month

[Petr_Koldunov]

Quote: tralflot1832

I was especially struck that 80000 subpoenas were handed out in St. Petersburg, maybe the journalist added a zero?

Accurately assigned a zero. Everywhere there was information that the plan for St. Petersburg was 8 people. This was also indirectly confirmed by the city military commissar in an interview.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

what about yourself?

So far, we are only heroically leveling the front and we all hope that it will begin, but I understand with my mind that 300 thousand will obviously not be enough to attack and hold the defense

[tralflot1832]

A man who is called by female names somehow does not inspire confidence.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

and who told you that I'm a man? or again decided to show off his stupidity?

[tralflot1832]

There were such people here, a man does not allow his wife to sit online in the evening! There are more important things to do.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

your wife is a servant. and I am a free man.

[mikh-korsakov]

"the limits of new subjects are determined by the boundaries of the region or republic on the day of its formation and the day of admission to the Russian Federation." Not understood. The borders of regions and republics on the day of their formation is one thing, but the borders on the day of admission to the Russian Federation are what? What is considered the day of admission to the Russian Federation - the day the contract is signed, or the day the contract enters into force. And this is the difference. Theoretically, Ukraine can change the borders of its former subjects today. But this will not happen, because Ukraine put on these agreements ... As for the entry of the city of Zaporozhye into Russia, what can I say - the Kremlin dreamers are idiots. If we fight in the current style, how would we not lose Lisichansk

[the most important]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

"the limits of new subjects are determined by the boundaries of the region or republic on the day of its formation and the day of admission to the Russian Federation." Not understood. The borders of regions and republics on the day of their formation is one thing, but the borders on the day of admission to the Russian Federation are what? What is considered the day of admission to the Russian Federation - the day the contract is signed, or the day the contract enters into force. And this is the difference.

The COP always knows how to explain it in such a way that no one will understand anything ... I, too, am in thought ... Has anyone at least understood something?

[lis-ik]

Quote: the most important

Does anyone understand something?

As I understand it, what borders will be at the time of adoption will remain so, i.e. Lyman will no longer exist.

[guest]

Thus, today part of the territory of Russia is under the control of the Zelensky regime.

As for Liman and other territories occupied by Bandera, I hope it is now clear.

[Third district]

Quote: lis-ik

As I understand it, what borders will be at the time of adoption will remain so, i.e. Lyman will no longer exist.

If we proceed from such logic, then Avdiivka is also not included in the borders.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Third District

Quote: lis-ik

As I understand it, what borders will be at the time of adoption will remain so, i.e. Lyman will no longer exist.

If we proceed from such logic, then Avdiivka is also not included in the borders.

I listened to it on the radio, something like this was presented, or it turns out that they specially prepared discrepancies, so that it would be easier to get off later.

[Rustic]

I listened to it on the radio, something like this was presented, or it turns out that they specially prepared discrepancies, so that it would be easier to get off later.

It goes without saying. And then they will also remember about demarcation. A couple of thousand squares there, a couple here.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Piramidon

Do not confuse borders with front lines.

I do not confuse, those who present information in this way are confused.

[Piramidon]

Quote: lis-ik

As I understand it, what borders will be at the time of adoption will remain so, i.e. Lyman will no longer exist.

The border and the front line (contact of troops) are different concepts. The border will pass along the lines of administrative-territorial division. See the map of Ukraine, they have not changed.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: the most important

I'm also in thought ... Someone at least understood something?

And these "soft-boiled boots" confuse me.
There is an impression that the incorrectness/ambiguity of the wording is deliberately laid down.

[Sarboz]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

And these "soft-boiled boots" confuse me.
There is an impression that the incorrectness/ambiguity of the wording is deliberately laid down.

"Soft-boiled boots" were laid down by Surkov in the Minsk agreements, where the line of demarcation was established along the "line of contact" on the date of signing. As a result of 8 years of shelling of Donetsk with almost direct fire and still insurmountable engineering structures near Donetsk itself. Here we are initially talking about established administrative boundaries that do not depend on the LBS.

[Sergey Drozdov]

And now it’s customary for us to write everything in this way ... Today, taking advantage of the fact that not everyone clearly separates the concepts: “Fatherland”, “Motherland”, “country” and “state”, a colonel of the reserve Strelkov was born today, I quote exactly, along with dots and commas: "A person who wants to defend his homeland does not ask what kind of state he has." It’s good that we have a classic, Mikhail Evgrafovich Saltykov-Shchedrin, who answered the colonel directly from the XNUMXth century: “Many tend to confuse the concepts: “Fatherland” and “Your Excellency.” An incomprehensible style of writing - as if they run the text several times through Google translator before publication ...

[Adrey]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Kremlin dreamers are idiots. If we fight in the current style, how would we not lose Lisichansk

Yes, they are not like that. They are shabby and sleazy. They have already seen and reviewed everything. One hope remains for them, how to quietly get out of this nix on the priest.

[mikh-korsakov]

No, all the same, fools. Because to start with such pomp this mouse fuss with the addition of what, firstly, you don’t have yet, and, secondly, with the addition of what you will lose today or tomorrow, you need to think of it. If there were cunning people, they would sit quietly and figure out how to jump off with less shame for themselves.

[Adrey]

There is only one entertainer, if you don’t believe me, watch the video with the meeting (but, I think you don’t need it. So you understand everything). But the result, yes, was shocking.
As a result, we have "rubber red lines" and a permanent "invitation" to the dialogue of the opposite side. Which, unfortunately, does not lead to this
And the whole team is now starting to feverishly think, as it were, "to eat a fish, and on ...".
Well, that is, as in preference, at least stay with your own people. Well, or lose, but a little

[mikh-korsakov]

Well, yes, I undertook to play a tenth, and then a sixth one is doubtful - with a pederastic marriage in the draw and a caught ace. For this candelabrum...

[Adrey]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Well, yes, I started playing tenths,

And "in the dark"
"caught" ace, it's more like a minuscule

[levfuks]

Quote: Adrey

There is only one entertainer

Looking at this genius, it's scary to imagine what the whole ensemble is like...
Quietly move out will not work. And apparently they just can't. Rackets are trying to scare.
And the entertainer seems to think (looking at Gorbachev and Yeltsin) only about the monument and about the paragraph in the history textbook.

[guest]

Do you offer capitulation and surrender of compatriots?

[ABC-schutze]

You're right...

It's a shame to voice this, but it seems that it's time to invite "consultants" from Ramstein to the Russian military (and political, too ...) "planners". Those, at least, FOR HALF A YEAR, REALLY "gathered their brains" and CORRECTLY, CONSISTENTLY began to act "catching up" ...

And the Russian "planners", relaxing to the first "victorious fanfare", gave everything to the "negotiators" and all the excellent, six months results of the labors and blood of the military, at the level "from the trench to the brigade commander", achieved "in the field", shamefully "leaked" .. .

[ecolog]

The Supreme, even when recognizing the DPR and LPR, said clearly - they have it written in the constitution "within administrative boundaries." How do we not fully recognize them? Zaporozhye and Kherson regions are also within the administrative boundaries, plus two districts of Nikolaevskaya to the heap to the Kherson region.
https://lenta.ru/news/2022/10/03/grnitsy/

[cat Rusich]

Quote from Silver99

but with my mind I understand that 300 thousand will obviously not be enough to attack and hold the defense, taking into account the rotation of troops and the natural attrition in combat conditions.

You can assemble a shock fist (200-300 thousand ... mobilized or contract soldiers who were replaced in the mobilized units), provide ammunition and equipment on the Russian border - and advance north of the front line in order to surround the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine standing on the front line and in the nearby rear from him.
Surround as much as the "shock fist" is enough for a reliable environment - and already "cook dill in the cauldron."
The main thing is not to let the Armed Forces of Ukraine again (for the umpteenth time ...) pull up "endless reserves" to release the "cauldron".

[guest]

If only this simplest truth could be brought to the ears of the General Staff of the Russian Federation.

[sofkar]

Quote: cat Rusich

You can assemble a shock fist (200-300 thousand ... mobilized or contract soldiers who were replaced in the mobilized units), provide ammunition and equipment on the Russian border - and advance north of the front line in order to surround the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine standing on the front line and in the nearby rear from him.

In my opinion, all such proposals do not take into account one circumstance. As soon as the Russian Federation starts doing something like this, which is really threatening for the enemy, Ukraine will immediately, without straining, receive something from the allies that will neutralize this advantage. Or more weapons, or new weapons that have not yet been delivered, or new ammunition, etc.
In my opinion, the situation is stalemate.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Sofkar

In my opinion, the situation is stalemate.

[Glagol1]

+ 300 thousand reservists of a good and very good level - this is very, very much !!! But where to get good generals who would command them ?! They don't exist, or the thieves simply don't allow them. Lapin will ruin an army of millions if he is given ...

[guest]

Quote from Silver99

300 thousand will obviously not be enough

Well, actually +300 thousand to what we have now, and this is from 400 to 500 thousand .. It should be quite enough for defense, but it will most likely not be enough to attack.

[ABC-schutze]

You're right...

With the inclusion of the Donbass and two regions of Novorossia (even within their full borders), the MAIN tasks of the NWO are still VERY FAR from their final and irreversible solution.

The inclusion of these territories in Russia, as they say in science, is only a "necessary", but FAR not yet "sufficient" condition for the COMPLETE denazification and COMPLETE demilitarization of the Kyiv Nazi regime.

Kiselev is already broadcasting - "now Russia has access to the Crimea not only through the Crimean bridge, but also through the land territory of the Kherson region." Sorry, but this is a banal "substitution of the topic" ...

It is VITAL for Russia, not only IRREVERSIBLE to secure reliable access to the Crimea, but also IRREVERSIBLE to ensure the absence of such "access" to the Black Sea coast, from the entire territory of the former united Ukraine, which is still under the control of the Kyiv Nazis for the USA and NATO ...

+ to this, it is IMPOSSIBLE to secure a reliable land corridor to the Transnistrian enclave. Otherwise, both its population of almost half a million (which is hundreds of thousands of Russian citizens) and the Russian military contingent stationed there will be permanently held hostage by the US, NATO, and the Kyiv Nazis. And be used as an object for continuous provocations against Russia and the provision of military and political pressure (blackmail) on Russia ...

But very "strange speeches" are heard from Putin. Yesterday, at the procedure for signing the Acts on the entry of four new subjects into the Russian Federation, he, in a "terrible voice" demanded from the Kyiv authorities (Cease fire and start NEGOTIATIONS "...

I'm sorry, it was only I who noticed the inexplicable from the point of view of the LOGIC OF THE IRREVERSIBLE solution of the TWO MAIN tasks of the NWO - the demilitarization and denazification of the Kyiv regime, the "change of lexicon" of the President of Russia and the Supreme Commander-in-Chief? ..

Excuse me, what does it mean to "cease" the fire?.. Even "immediately"?

As it was stated at the beginning of the NWO and as required by the logic of the COMPLETE and IRREVERSIBLE demilitarization of the Kyiv Nazi regime (now pumped up, moreover, intensively, by the so-called "Western supplies")? ..

What, Putin is "ready" to leave some other "military potential" to the Kyiv Nazis DEMILITARIZED during the NVO? .. If it's not a secret, but what? .. Not with the "intermediary" Erdogan? .. On the eve of the so-called. "Big Twenty"...

Where the States are going to drag the Kyiv clown, and Erdogan, as can be understood from the "political propaganda" background already today, is going "on the sidelines" to "informally shine Putin with the Kyiv clown" again to work out some "compromises" with the Kyiv Nazis. And the "negotiation" badyaga will begin again, which the Russians already saw in March. AND SHAMED RESULTS which they see TODAY. And these results TODAY are "paid for" with the blood of the heroic Russian military, military allied forces and volunteers. Over which the "negotiators" (and NO ONE OTHER ...) allowed the Kyiv Nazis and their masters to provide MULTIPLE SUPERIORITY in manpower and weapons and military equipment, along the ENTIRE length of the line of contact ...

Such questions to the inhabitants of the Kremlin, the Russians IS THE TIME to ask IMMEDIATELY and NOW. Moreover, to ask LOUDLY, regardless of the propaganda, "loud fanfare" and "beautiful rhetoric" of Putin (which, frankly, is already starting to set the teeth on edge, because it is no longer supported by decisive and consistent actions (and politics ...), in the course of the same SVO ...

In the meantime, Putin and United Russia, REALLY, at the expense of the population of the territories that became part of Russia, only secured a reliable electorate for the elections of 2024. And the inhabitants of these territories, finally liberated from Nazi and national terror, are quite understandable. But here's the PURPOSE - IRREVERSIBLE ensuring the NATIONAL and MILITARY security of Russia (and the territories included in it) is still far from being achieved, as it was in February, at the beginning of the NWO ...

And no "negotiations" with the top of the Kyiv Natsiks and their masters (as well as "intermediaries") can not be achieved IN THE PRINCIPLE ...

[Alien From]

The borders are narrowing every day, does the king really not know this ??

[Buyan]

The tsar signed the paper))) expanded the borders) it’s not a lordly thing to walk on the ground

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote from Buyan

The tsar signed the paper))) expanded the borders) it’s not a lordly thing to walk on the ground

The tsar signed the paper, and the "inholopes" clucked on the forum, ahead of each other in meaningful statements. Prepared answers wander from topic to topic. You can read one of the topics, so as not to go to the rest.

Do not enlighten, what exclusive blanks for tomorrow?

[Sergej1972]

Perhaps a significant, if not most of the subpoenas in order to update the data on military service?

[ALARI]

No, they called me on the 26th, when they found out that the jacket was not needed, they only looked at the certificate. Moreover, in 19, all the documents were brought to them by someone, where I work, and so on. Who made the lists, they just needed a round number.

[your1970]

Quote: ALARI

Moreover, in 19, all the documents were brought to them by someone, where I work, and so on.

A lot has happened since 2019. Since the coronovirus .... people are changing jobs, addresses, marital status ...
+ "Kotakpasy" runner
so most likely they just made sure that you are alive, on the spot, everything works there and there is registration.

[ALARI]

But VUS could not change everything else they did not need. There was a feeling that the subpoenas were not issued by the district military registration and enlistment office.

[your1970]

Quote: ALARI

But VUS could not change everything else they did not need. There was a feeling that the subpoenas were not issued by the district military registration and enlistment office.

And the VUS could easily change - even if you don’t take into account the fact that you could volunteer to go.
A familiar signalman - age - unlearned on computers at some cool courses. He took everything to the military registration and enlistment office - the same summons came as you did - and there they tell him "you now have a different VUS because of these courses."

[ABC-schutze]

This stupid inertia of the bureaucracy (alas, the "military" one too ...) is the problem ...

The conscript took the documents to the military registration and enlistment office "then" (a year, two, three years ago ...), and the information that he has a different VUS (due to independent training) is reported to him only "NOW". Along with the agenda...

And it was difficult for someone to "gather their brains" and IN ADVANCE to inform the persons liable for military service who are registered with the military (after all, their places of registration are known, at least there) information about the change in their VUS? .. They don't need to know this , Yes?..

What mail "does not work"?.. There are no "computers" in the military enlistment offices to send to email address?.. Or are the postal envelopes “out of stock”?..

Or maybe just "no" brains? .. And the clerks spend too much time on "drinking tea with buns"? ..

[your1970]

Quote: ABC-schütze

And it was difficult for someone to "gather their brains" and IN ADVANCE to inform the persons liable for military service who are registered with the military (after all, their places of registration are known, at least there) information about the change in their VUS? .. They don't need to know this , Yes?..

Мммм ..
For example, I’m quite a law-abiding person - I was registered at home for 10 years, but lived in another place. It was easier because of hunting and a gun ...
Maybe they wrote and called and knocked on the gate with their foot, but alas, I was not there ...

Quote: ABC-schütze

There are no "computers" in the military registration and enlistment offices to send to e-mail. address?..

I made a sample at work - in our district center it turned out to be roughly 200 (TWO HUNDRED!!) e-mail workers .... for 19 of the population.

Quote: ABC-schütze

Or "run out" of postal envelopes? ..

One letter with a notification costs 98 rubles. And there are usually no stamps - no money is allocated ..

[Buyan]

This is not a master's business, to enlighten the lackeys))) don't be shy, read it yourself

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote from Buyan

This is not a master's business, to enlighten the lackeys))) don't be shy, read it yourself

What kind of a gentleman are you - look at my comment and yours!

My login:
-- in Cyrillic;
- under his own name and surname;
-- without admixture of Russophobia and anti-Sovietism;
-- well-written.

Now look at yours! And where do they take you such mediocrity in the West? And with such knowledge of the Russian language, do you still want to dismember Russia, Buyan-driven?

[sniperino]

Quote: Damir Zakirov

Do not enlighten, what exclusive blanks for tomorrow?

I think they don’t know about the preparations themselves, but they know where tomorrow’s agenda will appear, and they will cuckle it here.

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: sniperino

Quote: Damir Zakirov

Do not enlighten, what exclusive blanks for tomorrow?

I think they don’t know about the preparations themselves, but they know where tomorrow’s agenda will appear, and they will cuckle it here.

Here are the cons for you. They don’t understand, dear ones, that a minus from idiots is a plus!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Damir Zakirov

You can read one of the topics, so as not to go to the rest.

So make a feat, do not go!

[Adrey]

Quote: Alien From

The borders are narrowing every day, does the king really not know this ??

And they will be the same as the "red lines" - tensile and compressible

[sniperino]

Quote: Adrey

Quote: Alien From

The borders are narrowing every day, does the king really not know this ??

And they will be the same as the "red lines" - tensile and compressible

Like your anus in a moment of danger.

[Adrey]

Quote: sniperino

sniperino
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Quote: Adrey
Quote: Alien From
The borders are narrowing every day, does the king really not know this ??
And they will be the same as the "red lines" - tensile and compressible
Like your anus in a moment of danger.

Yes, keep up the good work. Maybe someone is interested.

[sniperino]

Quote: Adrey

Yes, keep up the good work. Maybe someone is interested.

You are interested in the "extensible and compressible" front lines to scoff at. I suggested that you think about what will happen after they break. I guess that time is not far off; don't you see the danger?

[Adrey]

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sniperino
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Quote: Adrey
Quote: Alien From
The borders are narrowing every day, does the king really not know this ??
And they will be the same as the "red lines" - tensile and compressible
Like your anus in a moment of danger.

Yes, keep up the good work. Maybe someone is interested.
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sniperino
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Quote: Adrey
Yes, keep up the good work. Maybe someone is interested.
You are interested in the "extensible and compressible" front lines to scoff at. I suggested that you think about what will happen after they break. I guess that time is not far off; don't you see the danger?

And you are stubborn . But cowardly . The rules of the site do not allow you to go to the individual? Are you afraid of being banned? Yes, don't be shy! you are brave! Forward!

[sniperino]

Quote: Adrey

The rules of the site do not allow you to go to the individual? Are you afraid of being banned? Yes, don't be shy!

From your comments that I came across, I can draw only one conclusion about your personality: you are just a petty provocateur. Most likely, Ukrainian, if it refers to personality traits, but I do not rule out that you are a "professional Ukrainian" (this is for money).

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Alien From

The boundaries are shrinking

Will have to expand. Well, at least something specific was outlined.

[mikh-korsakov]

His Majesty loves a subordinate to look dashing and naughty. And no bad news. According to the principle, I reported on the bad - incomplete compliance with all the consequences. Subordinates learned this well. The governors' reports are especially ridiculous. For example, the governor broadcasts, they say, a thousand schools and kindergartens have been opened in my voivodeship, but the fact that the city does not breathe from the stink of garbage dumps and the prosecutor steals is not interesting. At the end of the report, the tsar-priest will scold him paternally - look at me so that there are enough playgrounds, otherwise I know you - mobile playgrounds were invented.

[Sergej1972]

And what, the governor has some powers in relation to prosecutors? Absolutely none. The prosecutor's office is a federal structure. It is the prosecutors who must ensure that the governors and local governments and self-government bodies comply with the law.

[your1970]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Especially ridiculous governors' reports.

there was such a "Ryazan experiment" - the experimenter Larionov simply wrote ridiculous reports.
Planted?
Put on a stake?
well, what are you, how can you - plant the nomenclature of the CPSU .... he died from fright that they began to read the reports

and such "nomenklatura" in all ages in Russia - like mud, and we have dirt due to impassability from "nomenklatura" - immeasurably ...

[lubesky]

In fact, the borders of Russia - do not end anywhere!

[Deep Diver]

Try telling that to China. Or the USA (we have a border with them, if that)

[dmi.pris1]

Well .. "The goals are set, the tasks are clear. For work, comrades" #Only without any "Reykjavik and Khasavyurt 2.0"

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: dmi.pris

Well .. "The goals are set, the tasks are clear. For work, comrades" #Only without any "Reykjavik and Khasavyurt 2.0"

With all the desire of the "elite" there will be no grunts .. Hard military work lies ahead, and painstaking work to restore Novorossia. And without Nikolaev, Odessa, Novorossia is not complete .. God forbid everyone will be there .... .. We will break through! Russia . "The government should not hesitate. Once having chosen the road, it should, without looking back to the right and left, go to the end." Bismarck

[Reptiloid]

With Bismarck, you should be careful. For example, this is also his statement: "Never trust Russians, because Russians don't even trust themselves."

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Reptilian

With Bismarck, you should be careful. For example, this is also his statement: "Never trust Russians, because Russians don't even trust themselves."

I thought who I personally trust ..... Bismarck is right here ...

[Drotro]

Don't you believe the Russians?
It seems to me that Yulian Semenov has already outlined this for a long time. That no one can be trusted.

[Reptiloid]

For an army to fight effectively in modern warfare, soldiers must at least be able to trust their commanders.

The faith of the population in the declared "we are here forever" would also not hurt.

And Yulian Semyonov wrote this about the situation in the Reich on the eve of the collapse.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Reptilian

So that the army can effectively fight in modern warfare the soldiers must at least be able to trust their commanders.

This is true in any war .. Expression - "Servant to the Tsar, father to soldiers" From the poem "Borodino" (1837) by M. Yu. Lermontov (1814-1841):
"Our colonel was born with a grip:
Servant to the king, father to the soldiers ...
Yes, I pity him: he is struck down with bulat,
He sleeps in the damp earth. ".... -------------- They go into battle for such people. to death, such people have always been worth their weight in gold. And the trouble is to be subordinate to a stupid, cowardly commander ...

[Drotro]

About "forever" I already wrote here somewhere. It was necessary to make banners "Russia is not here forever."

In my opinion, after the collapse of the USSR, faith in almost everything was taken away. And the local people are very sorry.

Faith is good. But I have no idea how much I trust anyone. After all, almost no one, everything is questioned. This is good for life in a market economy, but bad for life in a war.

I'm already thinking. Therefore, the Internet is not turned off for us in order to sow more confusion with conflicting news and events.

[levfuks]

Quote: 30 vis

The government should not hesitate.

To begin with, it must understand what it is doing.
And the deal was originally intended. But for some reason, many dreamed that we were already taking Lviv almost without a single shot ..

[Adrey]

Quote: dmi.pris

Well .. "The goals are set, the tasks are clear. For work, comrades" #Only without any "Reykjavik and Khasavyurt 2.0"

Do you believe in it yourself? Or are you carrying to the shirnarmassy?

[dmi.pris1]

Someone believes in God, someone simply believes in himself. And I hope.

[Andobor]

Ukraine needs to be fully referendit.

[Vladimir M]

Now, after the ultimatum to Ukraine, to leave the territory of Russia for the armed forces of Ukraine - there will be a reason to declare war on Ukraine

[Kiril Letov]

She's been doing this for over seven months now. It is high time to admit the obvious.

[Vladimir M]

Officially now goes SVO. To recognize the obvious, you need a reason, now there will be a reason.

[Deep Diver]

T-s-s-s! This word is prohibited for use on the territory of the Russian Federation!

[Pereira]

What other ultimatum? The one that CIPSO promised?

[Zakirov Damir]

Quote: Vladimir M

Now, after the ultimatum to Ukraine, to leave the territory of Russia for the armed forces of Ukraine - there will be a reason to declare war on Ukraine

According to all laws - the destruction of bridges, power plants and the blocking of the gas pipeline.

[Adrey]

Quote: Vladimir M

Now, after the ultimatum to Ukraine, to leave the territory of Russia for the armed forces of Ukraine - there will be a reason to declare war on Ukraine

Right now, as they will announce, they will announce! As we begin to level everyone with the ground!
Was there something that got in the way before?
The justifiers have already got the uryakals. Who else are you trying to brainwash?

[Vladimir M]

I don't brainwash anyone. I think that on the one hand, the chief reindeer breeder should be driven away, otherwise nothing good will happen, on the other hand, expelling the chief reindeer breeder can be even worse. V.V. Putin needs at least someone to rely on, otherwise we will get a civil war with the Abramovichs already on the territory of Russia. I hope that V.V. Putin understands that if the Russian Federation loses in Ukraine, the Anglo-Saxons will not leave him and his family alive and the death of Gadaffi will seem like a berry to him.

[Adrey]

Quote: Vladimir M

V.V. Putin needs at least someone to rely on,

As President, he must rely on HIS people, who expressed their confidence in him in the "elections"
Your phrase "need at least someone" perfectly characterizes the personnel policy of the President and the state

[levfuks]

How much and in what doses do you need to use to write this?
He was appointed foreman of the sawmill.
He relies on someone or he is told what to do - it does not matter.
The result is on the face!

[lis-ik]

Quote: Adrey

Who else are you trying to brainwash?

This is just complacency, the truth is hard to accept, especially bitter.

[Adrey]

Quote: lis-ik

This is just complacency, the truth is hard to accept, especially bitter.

Yes, they do not need this TRUTH. They just "fluctuate along with the line of the party and government"

[andreyural]

Well, let's announce. And what will change fundamentally? So the fighting is in full swing.

[Deep Diver]

Yeah, Ukraine ran away to do it.
And in general, if Ukraine is guided by the logic of the Kremlin, then it needs to capture a couple of villages in the Belgorod region, hold its own "referendum" there, and include the Belgorod region within its administrative borders into Ukraine

[opuonmed]

It is very good ! But the rear of the enemy and the infrastructure must be destroyed !!!!! it's time to win on the battlefield !!!!!!!!!

[Fizik13]

Let's be HONEST, it's too early to determine the boundaries!
There are many more kindred souls and territories there!

[Shtrek]

All new regions are part of Russia within their administrative boundaries, i.e. the limits of new subjects are determined by the boundaries of the region or republic on the day of its formation

... the bear has not been killed, but the skin has already been divided ....

[Roust]

It has long been time to seriously bang all alien infrastructure with evil spirits that hate us. God with us!

[Darkness]

Is the New Estuary included?
Or not?

[Deon59]

And within what boundaries will the retreat stop?

[Piligrim from Irkutska]

The next half of the decision ... When will the Kremlin learn to think and understand that the world has become different. That the time for semi-decisions is over.

[opposite28]

It is curious how soon the CTO regime will be introduced, in full without smoking breaks for coffee and tea ?!

[AdAstra]

WHO is against the army of another country? """"

[Drotro]

We talked about changes on the 3rd-5th.
If nothing changes and Ukraine continues to rapidly reconquer its territories, then one can imagine what they will write in the news.
Like today: "Ukraine, regardless of losses, is advancing on territories that have acquired the status of Russian. But Ukraine does not recognize this status and continues to attack."
Something like this. Conversations, statements, messages from the leaders of Russia. And they are not even heard, or they are openly ridiculed. Logic cannot be found in the actions.

[Buyan]

Quote: Zakirov Damir

Quote from Buyan

This is not a master's business, to enlighten the lackeys))) don't be shy, read it yourself

What kind of a gentleman are you - look at my comment and yours!

My login:
-- in Cyrillic;
- under his own name and surname;
-- without admixture of Russophobia and anti-Sovietism;
-- well-written.

Now look at yours! And where do they take you such mediocrity in the West? And with such knowledge of the Russian language, do you still want to dismember Russia, Buyan-driven?

Damir) calmer, what else drove))) this is a call sign - I got used to it) just like you, I live in Russia, I worry about it, I work for the good. My opinion is not your opinion - this is my personal opinion, this is the essence of the discussion. Well, since you are so competent, ideologically savvy - catch a plus)))

[buslaif]

Quote: the most important

"the limits of new subjects are determined by the boundaries of the region or republic on the day of its formation and the day of admission to the Russian Federation."

Apparently, it should be understood in such a way that if a region or a republic is completely liberated, then it completely becomes part of the Russian Federation, if not completely, then it becomes part of the Russian Federation in the actually liberated territory.

[Viktor Vladimirovich]

What are the boundaries if the enemy recaptures all new territories?
Isn't it too early to flaunt?

[ilpine]

Estuary is not the Russian Federation, but also the DPR. Pushilin is to blame and, according to Kadyrov, Lapin. Therefore, the surrender of Liman is to the old authorities, i.e. to the DPR. And the new government has not yet entered into law. It will be October 4, 2022. We are unlikely to hear a new approach to the NWO, sharp statements and actions, except for protection by all means. Then they will appoint a new leader to the new district, economic issues will begin, the country will collect assistance to new regions, in parallel we will wait for the "green" to come down, when the 1st partial mobilization ends, the vacation of those who fought, and most importantly, we will wait until it freezes Europe without gas, when the Democratic Party in the USA loses... The main thing for the Russian Federation will not lose the newly acquired territories. If it works out, then we will move forward a little, returning parts of the DPR and Zaporozhye. But, a revolution in military affairs in Ukraine is hardly to be expected, especially this year. After all, there is no desire to take risks and lose soldiers. So quietly and without sudden movements in positional clashes, slowly moving forward, we will enter 2023. And in the New Year, all the authorities will rest, the country will celebrate and watch fireworks. And then negotiations with the West will begin again. We will not take cities, and therefore Nikolaev and Odessa will be left to Ukraine, because the West must be fed with grain from Ukraine. Well, the rest of the cities - Kyiv, Dnipro, Lviv ... no one plans to take with a siege. For this, something will be left to the Russian Federation. They will not stretch the front, as the 2nd and 3rd partial mobilizations will be needed. Not a soothsayer, but this is how I see our eternal battle for Ukraine and, of course, the victory of Russia, but with negotiations. If no one shares plans with us, then we have to create them ourselves. Such is the NWO-strange paramilitary operation.

[16112014nk]

It became known to what extent

If the NWO continues, as it is at the moment, no matter how the Belgorod and Rostov regions become part of Ukraine.

[ork_333]

Quote from Buyan

The tsar signed the paper))) expanded the borders) it’s not a lordly thing to walk on the earth

Is there anything other than "This is not a master's business ..." in the training manual? Or are you just using the first line?

[nordscout]

Russia grows with its historical territories! Great! Now, if only to protect them... And then, it seems, all the "steam" goes into the "beep" and into "songs and dances" ... With one hand we take under "our wing", with the other hand we hand over to the enemy, now, already, "our" cities and territories .... It turns out interesting "liberation campaign a la 1939" ... Our leader and teacher - I.V. Stalin, probably, is "turning over" in his grave from frustration and personal impotence ... Now, apparently, we need to look at the problem of what is happening from a different angle, namely, at the "ability" of the current RUSSIAN social system (capitalism) to withstand the modern military, economic and political challenges of the united West + USA. It is one thing to patriotic rhetoric from high rostrums and drawing the next "red lines" (which the West has not been afraid of for a long time) and the "implementation" of patriotic rhetoric in "bronze and marble": the patriotic upsurge of the masses in unison, the rapid transfer of the economy and finance to a "military way" ", mobilized, equipped, according to the latest" squeak "army, highly professional commanders, heads of industry, regions, ministries and local administrations ... Such "bronze and marble" were possible only under socialism, where there was an ideological education of the masses, a serious selection of personnel in power structures, state regulation and control in the economy, finance, and ideology. Someone can "kick" me for socialist pathos and will be right. And under socialism, there were mistakes, excesses on the ground, theft and postscripts, personnel "blat" - but all these were "moments", and not the system that gave rise, in today's Russia, to mass "indifference", permissiveness, impunity, nepotism and corruption at all levels of government. Theft of public funds has become a "national sport" in Russia. They are “rushing” into power (at all levels) in order to “squeeze” the State for a “calm, satisfying old age” abroad, for a “house in the village” of five floors and by the warm sea, and service to the Fatherland, devotion, integrity, professionalism, motivation - this is from the series "do not tell my slippers." The all-Russian fetish, for the last 30 years, has become the US dollar, in all its manifestations... And a state with such a "fetish" to mobilize, win a serious war, and, moreover, a professional, motivated and well-equipped and armed enemy is an almost impossible task ... You can win by filling up the entire theater with the corpses of your citizens thrown into the crucible of war, or you can decide to press the "red button" .... I will be brief in my conclusion: we need systemic reforms in ideology, politics, economics, and finance. It is SYSTEMIC, and everything else (which some leaders are now trying to "depict" there, "at the top") - this is from the evil one and will not end well ... A few words about the cadres who decide everything: it's time to think about professionals devoted to the State and talented managers who are still preserved in the "bins" of the Motherland. At the moment, they are "squeezed" into second - third roles by sons, daughters, mistresses and lovers, effective managers and accountants who could be (or were put in these places) in the "right place at the right time" ...

[Vladimir100]

The big question is whether there was socialism in the USSR. Personally, my opinion is that what is happening now is a natural consequence and the result of the activities of the Soviet bureaucratic system (largely the heir to the tsar), which developed in the 20s under Stalin and entered the stage of decomposition after his death.

[tralflot1832]

And Mrs. Senator Narusova, again, for a good reason, will not vote?

[1984]

What is our navy doing? according to the data for 18 years from Wikipedia, 150 thousand people serve in the fleet, I propose to retrain them all into ground forces except for the crews of strategic missile carriers and send them to the Kharkov direction ....

[chingachguc]

What complex ceremonies we have! Byzantium. Gotta do business, business

[platon4387]

All this is good, but now they are shooting at the territory of Russia, And where is the ANSWER ???????

[nordscout]

And the "response" requires, now, a very great political will, and the holidays in the Country (on the occasion of the "new territories"), not until the "answer" - there is no time, and what will the "international community" + "partners" say on the occasion "answers" ... Well, away from sin your "answer" ....

[acetophenone]

Quote: 1984

What is our navy doing? according to the data for 18 years from Wikipedia, 150 thousand people serve in the fleet, I propose to retrain them all into ground forces except for the crews of strategic missile carriers and send them to the Kharkov direction ....

Do you remember the experience of the Great Patriotic War?

[alexleony]

Now build defensive lines along the border, in accordance with all the rules of military science, including the deployment of air defense, concentrate offensive actions in those areas where the troops of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are still located and knock them out of the territory. Then move on to war from defense with attacks on infrastructure and centers decision-making. I don’t see another scenario for the development of events. I would like to see a parade of Russian troops in Kyiv, but apparently another time.

[sniperino]

Quote: alexleony

I would like to see the parade of Russian troops in Kyiv, but apparently another time.

The parade, as expected, will be in Moscow, but this is not soon.

[Deep Diver]

The parade, as expected, will be in Moscow

Whose parade will be in Moscow?

[Vladimir100]

In the 90s, the Russians of the former Ukrainian SSR were denied citizenship under any pretext, and now they will be driven by force. They realized it too late.

[Vladimir100]

Quote: alexleony

Now build defensive lines along the border, in accordance with all the rules of military science, including the deployment of air defense, concentrate offensive actions in those areas where the Armed Forces of Ukraine are still located and knock them out of the territory.

And the same thing will happen - the mountain gave birth to a mouse?

[took the]

It is one thing in administrative boundaries, and another in the boundaries on the day of adoption. they are different boundaries.

[nordscout]

Quote: sniperino

Quote: alexleony

I would like to see the parade of Russian troops in Kyiv, but apparently another time.

The parade, as expected, will be in Moscow, but this is not soon.

If we fight and mobilize like this, then the parade, apparently, will take place, but in another life ...

[Two]

All new regions are part of Russia within their administrative boundaries, i.e. the limits of new subjects are determined by the boundaries of the region or republic on the day of its formation and the day of its admission to the Russian Federation. Thus, today part of the territory of Russia is under the control of the Zelensky regime. Of course, I understand everything, but how can a region vote for joining the Russian Federation, if part of it is under the control of Ukraine, the region usually votes completely, for 8 months we, sorry, could not liberate the Donetsk region .And how can we take into the composition what at the moment does not belong to us entirely, we cannot keep what belongs to us at the moment, the whole front is bursting at the seams. It’s a pity they voted for the people, but in fact we cannot protect them. surrendered to the people who were there will become. Everything is sad .

[Zik256x]

Quote: Kesha1980

Tuapse - in the first 2 days - forty with a change are called

Well, this is most likely only from your city, but from the district?

[place]

Quote: Vladimir100

The big question is whether there was socialism in the USSR. Personally, my opinion is that what is happening now is a natural consequence and the result of the activities of the Soviet bureaucratic system (largely the heir to the tsar), which developed in the 20s under Stalin and entered the stage of decomposition after his death.

Personally, my opinion is that the troubles of the people are not because of "...isms", but because of thieves and traitors. But it is customary for us to look for reasons for some reason, as they say "in the conservatory" .... it's probably more peaceful to live.

I will inform you that the ideas of Marxists about socialism appeared from the fact that Marx and Engels analyzed the events of the revolutions of the 19th century in the West. There, the workers created socialism without having a clue about who Marx and Engels were. And yet they achieved an appropriate standard of living by the end of the 19th century. We have the opposite - Marx and Engels knew, but they plundered their country.
Personally, my opinion is that the decomposition did not take place in socialism, but in Russian society. By the way, in the West it is generally accepted that if the Russians take on something, then there will be great sacrifices and everything will end in zilch. Such is their personal opinion ... And what, maybe it is more visible from the outside?

[Deep Diver]

Those. did these alternatively smart people decide to annex the entire Zaporozhye region? At the same time, they are not even embarrassed by the fact that the inhabitants of Zaporozhye did not vote in the "referendum", although the population of Zaporozhye is 1.1 million, and the entire region - 1.6? This is quite a clinic!