The equipment of the defense line to the west of the city of Kremennaya has to be carried out under actual enemy fire

The head of the Kyiv regime, Vladimir Zelensky, today confirmed the information that Ukrainian troops have completely captured the city of Liman (Krasny Liman). Recall that this city is located in the north of the Donetsk People's Republic and, on the basis of state acts signed the other day in the Kremlin, is a city of the Russian Federation. The Ukrainian side of the Russian status of the city (as well as the entire Donetsk region) does not recognize, continuing its advancement. Suffering heavy losses, the enemy reached the administrative border of the DPR and LPR along the Terny-Torskoye line. At the same time, the thorns remain with the allied forces.

At the moment, the allied forces are creating a defense line west of the city of Kremennaya (Lugansk People's Republic). Moreover, the equipment of such a defensive line has to be carried out in an emergency mode, since the Ukrainian troops that have occupied Krasny Lyman are clearly not going to stop yet. The Ukrainian command is in no way concerned about the losses incurred, and it throws more and more reserves into the breakthrough. Moreover, the city of Kremennaya is already under enemy artillery fire.

Based on these events, experts are wondering why the decision to create full-fledged defensive lines has only now been made. In this regard, military correspondents use the rhetoric in the variant “better late than never, but still - why is it late?”

The question, of course, is not idle, but in this situation it is still time to use the sad experience for good from reasoning and other reflections, including the search for the perpetrators. A sad experience is also an experience.

If we reject decadent moods (and there are none at the front itself), as hat-taking was previously rejected) and, again, adequately equip the defense line, pull up reserves and counterattack the enemy in such a format in which he least expects, then this would be effective conclusion from the failures of the past few weeks.

Comments

[Silver99]

“Now the enemy will most likely concentrate his efforts on cutting off the communication along the highway from Kremennaya to Svatovo with further advance to the north. Enemy DRGs are already on this road. Having cut off Kremennaya from the north, he will probably try to go to her. By the way, on all federal TV, they sing and dance in complete silence, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation scored a bolt, the Ministry of Defense walks grubs and checks with the mobilized ((((

[saigon]

I wonder how many troops we have there? I don’t understand a little the enemy’s patrols roam wherever they get, and we don’t have personnel at all. Military citizens, of course, he is a DRG, a fashionable word, but in fact these are advanced patrols and lateral patrols of the enemy in a word, I am silent.

[Graz]

I don't understand something either. wherever you poke everywhere in the messages that our troops are with a gulkin nose, but they talked about 140-170 soldiers, but there is a feeling that there are no 000

[Arsi55]

Initially, there were 170-230 tons, 6 tons died, another 300 tons must be called. I wonder where they are all? right - they went missing, like 300 people from the cruiser Moscow (it remains a mystery how you can disappear from the ship ..)

[tralmaster]

Do not lie from the cruiser Moscow, the crew was shown dead and missing 27 people.

[Alexey Lantukh]

We must think that 6 thousand of those who died were along the line of the Ministry of Defense, and there are also troops: 1) DPR 2) DPR 3) National Guard. In reality, the number of people killed is two to three times higher. Wounded = usually three times as many as killed. Part of the loss at the end of the contract.

[Glagol1]

Exactly. At least 12 thousand dead, 30 thousand wounded + transferred to the reserve. 50 thousand have gone.

[Alexey Lantukh]

Moreover, it does not take into account the fact that not all troops are on the front lines. After all, a part is busy with supply, provision, headquarters, and I still know what the hell. And mostly those who are on the front end are decreasing.

[KVIRTU]

PMCs and volunteers forgot ...
SV 280 thousand, of which there will be no combat component and 100.
Bases, warehouses, training...
Other operational areas. Therefore, from the first day of the Airborne Forces, the Marines were introduced.

[Demon_is_ada]

Less. For one in the trench, an average of 5 people near the front line. Arta, fuel oil, the largest automobiles, headquarters, communications, etc., etc.

[KVIRTU]

The trouble is ... A peacetime army, without cropped units, there is nowhere to take the mob.

[Lom_l]

As I understand it, 150k is the whole group, which includes not only shock parts. Those. I dare to assume that there are just about 50-70k shock parts. Why they climbed with so many and at the same time did not begin to destroy the infrastructure and barracks, the question is. The only exception is the southern direction, that's where the columns of the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to burn from the very beginning and the result, as they say, is obvious.

[MMX]

Quote: Graz

I don't understand something either. wherever you poke everywhere in the messages that our troops are with a gulkin nose, but they talked about 140-170 soldiers, but there is a feeling that there are no 000

This is what happens when you listen to Konashenkov. He "destroys" the enemy there on an industrial scale. And so all 7 months. The layman may get the impression that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have already been destroyed. The reality is that it is we (the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the Allies) who are shrinking. The divisions are bled for the most part. A huge amount of technology has been lost. Aviation failed.
As I understand it, the plan is to try to wait it out (when the brilliant green leaves and the mudslide sets in). Then we will get a much-needed respite and the opportunity to lick our wounds (at least part of it).

P.S. The truth is that the enemy will not sit idly by during this period either. According to some reports, Ukraine has already received about $80 billion worth of military aid, which is twice as much as Russia's annual military budget. And they are not going to stop there, on the contrary, there will be more in the future.

[insafufa]

With 80 thousand in Chechnya, we could only keep checkpoints in all settlements and have a mobile reserve in key strongholds. The area of ​​the Luhansk region is 26 km². The area of ​​Chechnya is 684 km² and the DRG of militants also went as they pleased.

[skeptic]

Quote: saigon

I wonder how many troops we have there? I misunderstand a little the enemy’s patrols roam wherever they hit, and we don’t have personnel at all

I am also interested in reading about "imperceptible accumulations, displacements." Crap. Does the Russian armed forces have anything incendiary at all? Constant complaints - that greenery prevents "discovering". So burn it out. While forest fires - the enemy will not pass, and after the fires - open territory - the flag is in the hands of the Air Force.
In the end, after planting on a new one and there are no problems. Why is the natural factor not used?

[your1970]

Quote: saigon

I don’t understand a little, the enemy’s patrols roam wherever they get, and we don’t have personnel at all

According to the Charter, for a division of 10-12 km on the defensive, 8-6 on the offensive. Thus, with 10-12 divisions that are available there, you can defend 100-120 km of the front .... no more ...
The same parsley in the Armed Forces of Ukraine ...
In the same place, they advance "with forces up to a platoon with the support of a tank." During the Second World War, such sorties were not even considered "battles of local importance"

[SKVichyakow]

Quote from Silver99

the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces scored a bolt, the Ministry of Defense walks grubs checks with mobilized

The cat is also engaged in licking in complete silence.

[Thrifty]

Are there any reserves, or are they waiting for the called-up reservists to be trained, and they will plug holes in the fronts?

[mojohed2012]

The situation appears to be critical.
There are no reserves. The troops are stretched into a thin thread. In fact, the battles are being fought by thinned contract battalions, mobilized LPR companies and volunteers interspersed with the National Guard.
It is now clear that the generals (whether good or bad) were all betting on an offensive initiative with dense artillery preparation, offensives with small forces without fortifications.
Now the initiative has been lost and the dense masses of superior troops of the Armed Forces and mercenaries have already reversed the above-mentioned initiative of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, which means that we can confidently say that the contract army, beaten, reduced and not resting for 8 months, and mobilized Donbass on the verge of a foul hold all those positions that they allow forces and means.
There is only one stake - apparently - the deployment of dense masses of mobilized units in the defense in a month and a half will be able to somehow stabilize the front. Then the cadre units will finally be taken to the rear for reorganization, replenishment with people and equipment, and the mobilization troops will reflect the blows of the enemy troops.
It was the stake on the offensive initiative of the RF Armed Forces that played a cruel joke with the careless generals of the General Staff.
When the released armored personnel carriers were pushed into local offensives from the world along the thread, and the spaces of the actual front were flimsy and sluggishly held by what remained at hand.

[chingachguc]

Dear, you better talk about something else. Dense masses ... What does the masses have to do with it? A dense mass can be mowed down with one machine gun. The stability of the defense is provided by operational reserves, rotation, several lines of defense with nodes of resistance, minefields, gouges, thorns, bunkers. ammunition stocks. Not dense masses

[KVIRTU]

Do you personally know the security officials who returned home on rotation, from any departments?
I'm not, okay, for a day, two a month, on official business.
Someone to rotate.

[Nickelium]

No reserves? Lies. But for some reason these reserves are not used? Is this sabotage or betrayal?

[Romario_Argo]

and you wanted the Armed Forces of Ukraine to throw all their reserves into the positions prepared by us?
rate for BARS volunteers + art support and videoconferencing

[paul3390]

and you wanted the Armed Forces of Ukraine to throw all their reserves into the positions prepared by us?

Well - we have thrown and continue to throw troops directly in the forehead on the fortified areas of Donbass? Which have been concreted for 8 years?

[paul3390]

Then the personnel units will finally be taken to the rear for reorganization, replenishment with people

And who will fill them up? To carry out the second wave of mobilization?

[YOUR]

Quote from Silver99

MO walks grubs checks with mobilized

It is fashionable, shows involvement, raises aftoritet in their own eyes.
And the fact that they missed the offensive, the concentration of troops is garbage, then the fact that they did not organize the defense so the infantry will survive. We OK such force spirit and all such. It turned out that there is no elementary connection, we buy ordinary tourist walk-talkies and send them there.
Evil takes

[Virus-free crown]

Have the inhabitants of the city of Kremennaya already been evacuated?

[Pereira]

Most likely they will be thrown to the massacre of Banderlogs.

[belost79]

They handed out Russian passports and told me to sit down. We don't leave ours

[Adagka]

And what did the brave General Lapin do in this direction for a whole month? Scribbled peppy reports upstairs instead of building fortified areas? Couldn't organize several excavators in a month? And now the soldiers are digging trenches under Khkhlov fire? And this mediocrity also got lawyers from all holes ....
The brave general himself is unlikely to be digging a trench with a shovel now, rather scribbling excuses that he got unusable troops.
Oh, already uryakalki, they are not boat rockers, they are Lapin's lawyers ran to minus)

[dmi.pris1]

It is pointless to make a switchman out of Lapin. Another commander will be taken (about whom odes are laudatory) and there will be the same result. But now at least there is some progress towards the approach to waging war

[Harbinger68]

Then why, where there is no Lapin, the "orchestrants" move forward, though not quickly, but forward!

[RED_ICE]

What moves? Name at least one example?

[kventinasd]

Quote: Adagka

The brave general himself is unlikely to be digging a trench with a shovel now, rather scribbling excuses that he got unusable troops.

Do not worry, this "strategist" has already been smeared at the top, substituting General Zhuravlev and all his subordinate officers. After all, Lapin was given a hero quite recently and somehow it’s not comme il faut to betray the heroes in chief.

[Evgeny_1980]

The most interesting thing is that they retreated to "prearranged positions" well, this is according to the reports of the press secretary in general's shoulder straps

[Peter1First]

"unprepared positions"

[Arkady007]

For me, now it is necessary to send Khodakovsky, Kadyrov, M. Onufrienko, Yu. Podolyaka, Girkin and Prigozhin to the General Staff.
Everyone has experience, and no less knowledge, and the spirit is definitely stronger.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Arkady007

For me, now it is necessary to send Khodakovsky, Kadyrov, M. Onufrienko, Yu. Podolyaka, Girkin and Prigozhin to the General Staff.

...? !!
sorry. dare to ask. and by what criterion did Y. Podolyak get into this list ... ?! telegram strategist...?!!

Quote: Arkady007

Every and there is experience, and no less knowledge, and the spirit is stronger

...?!! Are you serious about Sumy Podolyak...?!!

[Arkady007]

Why is Podolyak worse than Konoshenko?
So it at least gives an analysis of what happened.

[dmi.pris1]

Misha Onufrienko, he even fought in Afghanistan, sort of. And Yura? He sits and pours from empty to empty. As for the rest, I agree.

[skeptic]

Quote: Adagka

The brave general himself is hardly digging a trench with a shovel,

What trenches are 150 km away. from his "NP"? There is no cannonade heard. He thinks more about what kind of girls they will bring to the bathhouse. Secrets, "heroic excuses" will roll on their own, on the "next star". And in the General Staff "co-hunters will wave."
Interestingly, it was not his "relative" warriors, the newest T-90M, with all the latest developments, that were handed over to the Ukrainians? For the sake of appearance, apparently, they also threw off the caterpillar? Judging by the comments of the ukrov, they were accidentally found abandoned, with full ammunition.

[Peter1First]

They gave a lot of other things to Khokhls / te amers /: khibiny, krasukha, Tornado-S guided missiles near Balakleya, guided aircraft missiles ....

[paul3390]

And what did the brave General Lapin do in this direction for a whole month?

It seems that even in the Soviet charter it was written - the defense must be improved CONTINUOUSLY ... I dug three rows of trenches - dig the fourth from behind. A shovel - it really saves life.

[tihon4uk]

How much blood of a simple soldier was shed to free this land, and so mediocre because of the idiots at the top, everyone blew it. So soon they will approach Lugansk.

[skeptic]

Quote: tihon4uk

because of idiots

Idiots can't climb that high. Due to the lack of intelligence. These are the enemies of the Russian state, regardless of their motivation.

[Vladimir100]

will advance another 30 km and start flying to Luhansk

[TatarinSSSR]

It would be time to present questions to the VKS. Where are they? Their planes cost tens of millions of dollars. Pilots have been trained for years and cost the country a lot. Airfields and stuff burn through billions a year. And in the NWO, aviation is practically invisible, except for the ancient workaholics of the 20th century, the Su-25 attack aircraft and the Su-34, which are incomprehensible in their use. As if VKS DOES NOT EXIST in Russia. Are you afraid of air defense? So who prevented the destruction of air defense from the first days of the NWO? Why such expensive aircraft at all if it is useless in a war? Or was it created only by Barmaley pickups in Syria to bomb from 5 km? It's time to ask questions to the designers, the military-industrial complex, the airborne forces - where and what are the billions from the military budget spent on, if the airborne forces are useless and cannot operate even near the border ?! The enemy does not even have fighter aircraft!

[kventinasd]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

It would be time to present questions to the VKS. Where are they? Their planes cost tens of millions of dollars.

Not only was our aviation not there, but if there was a single one, it was practically blind, and the art did not work as it should. Everything that some military correspondents pour into our ears is designed for urapatriots and other boobies. In general, watch this video from a LPR fighter.

[Sergey Nikiforov]

Have you heard about air defense, we supply from all parts of the world.? Or do you think they are delivering some rubbish there. Now the Germans will hand over their Irises, even those hemorrhoids for our YVKM

[Sebostyuan]

"You heard about air defense." Forward to those who made a bet on SVP-24 in conjunction with FABs. What is the percentage of high-precision weapons in service with the VKS? And how is the interaction between the Aerospace Forces and the ground forces?

[kventinasd]

Quote from Sebostyuan

And how is the interaction between the Aerospace Forces and the ground forces?

No way. Western specialists are jamming almost all of our communication between divisions.
Here is what Kitty writes.
A wave of letters in a personal: General Lapin this, General Lapin that, right, wrong, Kadyrov denounces, etc.
I am silent about Lapin, because I did not serve under him and do not know him personally.
Secondly, it is surprising that with such communication and with such command and control at the tactical level, we defended Krasny Liman for another 20 days in the face of superior enemy forces.
At the tactical level, there is no normal communication. And I'm talking about the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, but I generally keep quiet about the rifle regiments of the DPR mob reserve.
It's just embarrassing. With this, we entered the war, sorry, in the NWO. Is Lapin to blame for this?
Report to Shoigu and the Supreme Commander about the lack of communication and control, because they most likely do not read my channel.
How does it look not on a TV show, but in reality?
At the tactical (company) level, control is impossible - there is no communication. The same company commander, when making a decision, finds himself in a vacuum.
"Baofengs" Ukrainians listen and jam. I repeat, there is NO closed communication in the tactical link. The mobilized, "mobiks", as they are called, at best, have several R-159s of fifty years ago without "Historians" ...
It is impossible to fight with such equipment in the XNUMXst century - you will be defeated by an enemy equipped an order of magnitude higher. But the Russians also manage to attack without communications and a command and control system.

Paradox…

And the saddest thing is that such truth about the real state of affairs does not reach the top, and it is allowed to speak it in fact to two people in the state, except for the President - Ramzan Kadyrov and Yevgeny Prigozhin. Something is wrong in the Russian State.
@voenkorKotenok

[Sergey Nikiforov]

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have the level of a squad comm - platoon commander - ZAS, and on our R-123, ZAS tanks there is practically no VKS-RF level of R809, and so on in everything

[paul3390]

Western specialists are jamming almost all of our communication between divisions.

Why don't we do the same? We were told so much about the power of our electronic warfare, such as those capable of almost turning off Biden's smartphone?

[Normal ok]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

It would be time to present questions to the VKS. Where are they? Their planes cost tens of millions of dollars. Pilots have been trained for years and cost the country a lot. Airfields and stuff burn through billions a year. And in the NWO, aviation is practically invisible, except for the ancient workaholics of the 20th century, the Su-25 attack aircraft and the Su-34, which are incomprehensible in their use. As if VKS DOES NOT EXIST in Russia. Are you afraid of air defense? So who prevented the destruction of air defense from the first days of the NWO? Why such expensive aircraft at all if it is useless in a war? Or was it created only by Barmaley pickups in Syria to bomb from 5 km? It's time to ask questions to the designers, the military-industrial complex, the airborne forces - where and what are the billions from the military budget spent on, if the airborne forces are useless and cannot operate even near the border ?! The enemy does not even have fighter aircraft!

Indeed, why is it so bad with videoconferencing? After all, aviation and air defense of Ukraine were destroyed on the first day of the war? It's time to attack!!

[ALEXX.]

And there is not far from Lugansk left. And Rostov is not that far away.

[Kronos]

And here is what Kassad writes about the other direction: By the evening of October 2, the situation in the Nikopol direction worsened. The enemy is advancing south towards Berislav across the Golden Balka. The situation may become critical in the near future.

[Fizik13]

Quote: Kronos

... that Kassad writes about a different direction-By the evening of October 2, the situation in the Nikopol direction worsened. The enemy advances to the south in the direction of Berislav across the Golden Balka...

Is your Kassad fighting or how are you sitting on the couch?
During the Second World War, such gossip WAS NOT! According to the law of war, for such misinformation, TO THE WALL and without talking!

[tralflot1832]

And Rozhin does not say anything about the critical situation, he simply states the fact about the movement of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[Kronos]

Well, here's something fresh for you from Strelkov-On the Kherson Front, our troops rolled back to the line of the village of Dudchany. The threat of an enemy breakthrough along the Dnieper to the approaches to Berislav remains. I assume that the enemy will try to outflank our positions in the indicated area from the north in order to force us to continue the retreat under the threat of encirclement. The forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are estimated at about 3-4 mechanized battalions and at least one full-blooded tank battalion (more than 100 AFVs in total).

[tralflot1832]

Who is the shooters? In what troops does he serve?

[Romario_Argo]

Strelkov is a pseudonym - he started in the FSB - then the Wagner group

[tralflot1832]

Maybe. When he was expelled from the DPR, his journalists "caught" rolling on a 500 - 600th Mercedes in the back seat. I immediately had a question: Colonel, where did Zin's money come from?

[Romario_Argo]

Russian PMCs all work under the FSB and SVR
600th Merc, good car - representative - at the state expense
on some kind of bucket you won’t come to the sheikhs for negotiations
What numbers were AhhhMR-?

[paul3390]

Strelkov is a man who, back in April, said - with such an outfit of forces and with such a strategy, all this can only end in defeat .. Then - patriots threw poop on him, I wonder - how do these throwers feel now?

[Romario_Argo]

and in the tasks of the NWO there is not a word about the seizure of territories
only the destruction of the military potential of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
AFRF changed tactics - no boilers
Armed Forces of Ukraine are advancing - Zelensky needs cities - and they are being digested
now the Armed Forces of Ukraine have run into Terny - Dibrova
now they will go north to Borovaya - there will be the same linear tactics
It’s easier for the Armed Forces of Ukraine to attack BARS volunteer battalions, there are no special forces, no airborne forces, no tanks
by the way, we are already preparing and leave Kupyansk completely

[tralflot1832]

They already left Kupyansk and not yesterday. I am incomprehensible. Let's establish communication and speed of decision-making, intelligence and analytics, it will be easier.

[Romario_Argo]

the main thing is that the goals are achieved
equipment and reserves of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are being destroyed - even more than they are fortified in the forehead
Kupyansk left (grey zone) - so it is necessary
and artillery and mortars use UAS and fuses from Compass for conventional landmines 122, 152, 203 mm adjusted for GLONASS or for illumination from GOES with UAVs
and misses - they drive the APU so that there is less waste, and so that they don’t dump it earlier

[tralflot1832]

I was amazed by the footage from our side. the moment the column turns, put a dot over the T, as in a squadron battle.

[Romario_Argo]

I agree,
and also how the BMP-3 shot a convoy from the M113
from a 30 mm machine gun and ATGMs from a 100 mm
confusion, more: Davydov Ford and Zolotaya Balka - although there and there - just huge losses for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in equipment and they generally count 700 people a day

[Fizik13]

Minus those who, as always:
- when we have success - we need more and cooler (they don’t think about our soldiers)
- when something does not work out - where did you look, we feel sorry for our soldiers.

[Pereira]

To those generals who won everything, what orders were they given? Nobody knows?

[andrei1]

Today, strategists have been flying over our city all day, the entire sky was streaked with contrails. I hope this is a sign that our MO has finally come to its senses. We are waiting for information in tomorrow's news releases. PS I have never seen such aviation activity before

[Pereira]

I've been watching chemtrails in my city all summer. Now it has stopped. Apparently, the Chinese have relocated to you.

[tralflot1832]

I would not talk on the site about the activity of aviation, and even more so of strategists. It can be allegorical. The APU is waiting for a surprise.

[ratcatcher]

Need to seize the initiative. It is impossible to play only from defense. So you won't win. What is possible now is the scrapping of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the SOUTH and a retaliatory offensive against Nikolaev. It would be nice to add harassing strikes, for example, in the direction of Sumy and Chernigov, actually raid ones - but this is not enough strength, most likely.

[Nickelium]

Well, we have 41-42, with the exception of Moscow, where there was a completely deaf defense.

[Foundling]

The question is what to hold back. The feeling that there are few regiments left.

[Nickelium]

What are our tactics? There is nothing to hold back, fuck around Dnipropetrovsk region, Kharkiv region bridges, One hell, we are always to blame for everything. More sin, less sin.

[chingachguc]

No strength. Add the lack of coordination of the Russian army, and numerous volunteers, no-man's mobs, LDNR. Chaos in management, multiplied by the unsuitability of commanders. All this reminds me of Narva.

[PROXOR]

I know from the side channels that our forces are decent in Belarus. Kadyrovtsy are also there. What is everyone waiting for. It seems that the operating units have been given a command to hold on.

[Dartanian]

What do they write for - the opposite side does not take into account the losses and moves forward?!? Who cares about the loss of dill, unless Konoshenko cares, he’s going for records. They are moving forward, this is the main thing unfortunately ...

[Sergei V]

What are you doing? Many are waiting for the Ukrainians to finally run out and we will take a direct express straight to Lviv

[Carlos Hall]

In the West, it was reported that Dvornikov was replaced by Lapin because of his addiction to drinking. And what does it matter what he drinks? Because Lapin is a mess.

[alexey_444]

And what do we want? When teachers don’t teach, doctors don’t treat, sellers pick their noses, and our soldiers will be different. The contractors are fleeing, they have received apartments, but Pushkin will fight, the youth is passive. Since February, how many heroes have been lost, and now everyone blames Lapin, as if he had a million reserves

[Maxim Sergeevich]

It's all strange. Engineers dig trenches under enemy fire. But you can’t dig under fire? Well, go back there and dig normally, or are there so many engineers and machines for digging that you don’t feel sorry for them and they will bring new ones?

[KVIRTU]

The right question.
In the NATO tank regiment, there are almost twice as many armored earthmoving equipment as tanks, read about the war in Iraq.

[Adagka]

Quote: kventinasd

Quote from Sebostyuan

And how is the interaction between the Aerospace Forces and the ground forces?

No way. Western specialists are jamming almost all of our communication between divisions.

To drown out the Chinese three-ruble balalaikas, which the defective allegedly imported by sticking labels in Russian, you don’t need to strain much.

[ratcatcher]

By the way, this is General Lapin, about whom much has been written lately. There are two radios on the table. One of them is baofeng. This is how our troops work ... The question is - who and how provided the troops with secure communications, what do you throw at the front - Chinese civilian radios?

[chingachguc]

For 20 days of Liman's defense, no one bothered.

[Yapet100]

The military correspondents write that the town of Berislav, Kherson region, was under the threat of capture ... DRGs of ukrov are working very actively .... No matter how Krasny Liman repeats.

[Evgenijus]

In general, these separate armed detachments of the SOBRA type and others look strange in the command and control system and the very structure of the NVO troops. What a partisan. Each detachment has its own "dad", its own headquarters, its own maps. What's a brine? And some planes, rockets fly overhead. The General Staff sits in an underground bunker at a depth of 50 m. Everyone is solving their own "important" issues, everyone is busy with business. And in the trench sits the starley with his soldiers and waits for help. And the Janissaries climb on the starley in tens and hundreds. What is this war?

[Adagka]

Quote: Thrifty

Are there any reserves, or are they waiting for the called-up reservists to be trained, and they will plug holes in the fronts?

So it will be, all the genius of our generals, and as a result, it came down to throwing meat.

[AdAstra]

And then why are we better than dill, over which we laughed with their "meat"?

[Essex62]

But nothing. What are those that we are from one piece of land, Russia used to call this civil war. Their gouging is minimal, because there is a goal. As a result, such a tasty piece shines. For this, they will turn inside out to defeat us.

[Babermetis]

The priority targets should be mobile fuel stations, not overseas artillery. And then somehow cheerfully Ukrainian mechanized units move.

[1939_1940]

You also say that the Druzhba oil pipeline must be destroyed ..

[Babermetis]

Quote: 1939_1940

You also say that the Druzhba oil pipeline must be destroyed ..

What for? Diesel tanks, not gas.

[Viktor fm]

The Kremlin people are eating freebies, and the fighters are dying.

[Ryaruav]

to bomb the lions and the district to the fullest, we still won’t get it with such leadership

[Ivan1945]

I can not understand who is pouring out in the comments? Ukrainians have a line of volunteers in the military registration and enlistment offices to defend their homeland, we also collect forced mobilization from the camps to occupy the territory of Ukraine for Putin, which the Russians don’t need. Therefore, they run, throwing equipment at the first opportunity.

[Praetorian4]

Well, of course, there was no time at all

[Nikolaevich I]

The special operation exposed all these long-rotting ulcers in the construction of the armed forces and the country's economy, which the Putin regime of power covers up with social handouts to the population, demonstrations of tests of "daggers" and "zircons" ... and simply "Konashenkov's" lies or silence of the truth! It seems that this SVO showed, nevertheless, the unpreparedness of the Armed Forces of Russia to effectively wage not only a "big" war; but also just a more or less serious military campaign against modern armed "network-centric" forces equipped with modern weapons ... albeit expensive ... even very expensive, but also effective! Moreover, it is not the HRVs themselves that are more to blame; and serious miscalculations (sometimes blatant!) in the organization and equipment of the armed forces made by the Moscow Region, the military leadership and the ruling regime of Putin! The mediocrity (!) And the inability to really fight (or maybe unwillingness?) of the generals are revealed, which often happens when they are nominated for positions not according to their intelligence, but according to the degree of devotion, often ostentatious, to the ruling regime of power! war "when the armed forces are equipped not out of need, but according to the money ... which is always not enough for the army ... under the unspoken" slogan ": since "the economy must be economical", then the defense must be economical! And what about the rotten system for the formation of military orders and their execution? Now I don’t know how, in the end, this Putin’s special operation will end, which is more and more reeking of adventure; but for anyone, regardless of the final results, the ruling regime in Russia must answer to the HSR and the people for all the grossest miscalculations that objectively could not have happened if it were not for the existence of a bastard system of management and personnel formation in the economy and in the armed forces. ..for the death of military personnel, which might not have happened, provided that the armed forces are fully equipped! And the HRV and the people are responsible for ensuring that there is a demand and that the ruling regime does not evade the answer!

[Nastia makarova]

No one will answer, for the first time or something

[Dmitry Karabanov]

why only now a decision has been made to create full-fledged defensive lines

Probably because of the same reason why we all collect together for quadrics, night vision devices, ammunition for the mobilized ... The army leadership is completely rotten and mired in corruption, while the Supreme Commander completely removed himself from the war he started! For them, fireworks and concerts are more important than omentums and berets for our guys!

[Dane]

So they steal ..... and probably not only clothes ....
A member of the State Duma Committee on Defense, Lieutenant General Andrei Gurulev, said that 1,5 million sets of military uniforms for the mobilized were missing from the points of reception of personnel. This is reported by the Telegram channel "Rise".

As the deputy said, at the moment the Russian military has problems "sometimes with uniforms, sometimes with something else."

“It is still unclear to me where the 1,5 million sets [of uniforms] that were stored at the points of reception of personnel have gone,” Gurulev said.

He noted that no one and nowhere can explain this problem.

According to a member of the State Duma Committee on Defense, the question of the loss of a military uniform should be asked to the dismissed Deputy Defense Minister Dmitry Bulgakov.

[Alex Barrett]

The yachts of the state defense order officials cost comparable to combat frigates, and the uniform sets disappeared there, and, apparently, not only the uniform “disappeared”

[Nastia makarova]

You are a strange person, where does the money for modern berets come from?

[Dizel200]

Experts are wondering ..... Here all the people do not understand what kind of b.. is going on

[Adagka]

Quote: Dmitry Karabanov

why only now a decision has been made to create full-fledged defensive lines

Probably because of the same reason why we all collect together for quadrics, night vision devices, ammunition for the mobilized ... The army leadership is completely rotten and mired in corruption, while the Supreme Commander completely removed himself from the war he started! For them, fireworks and concerts are more important than omentums and berets for our guys!

Here, many are wondering why the supreme rate is not being created. Yes, because then you will have to answer for failures. And this is not about ours. It's more about winning. Time to study small, victorious. He is not in business, now let the people disentangle

[Glagol1]

Konashenkov is our Psaki! He lies and does not blush, even if the lies are multiple. Maybe someday he goes to church, unless of course he is a believer, and repents for all the lies. But this will not help our tens of thousands of young guys who were killed on the battlefield, tortured to death in the Gestapo dungeons, died without help on the battlefield, crippled, disabled, missing. For the first time in my life, I am ashamed that this liar is my compatriot. Let the toilet sink under it!

[EvilCommunist]

one feels effective management, for 1 soldier with a machine gun in a trench - 10 chiefs who manage it, and another 100 commentators on various resources telling how best to keep the defense of that soldier, as in any factory, as in any other area.

[Heaven]

Quote: Graz

I don't understand something either. wherever you poke everywhere in the messages that our troops are with a gulkin nose, but they talked about 140-170 soldiers, but there is a feeling that there are no 000

So put two and two together. Why does the army have fewer soldiers in the war?

[Arbeiternegast]

It's disgusting to see all these joyful concerts on TV.

[Avralex]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

So who prevented the destruction of air defense from the first days of the NWO?

That's what "invisibles" are for. But, since the Su-57 is small, there is no result.

[UAZ 452]

And how many air defense systems were destroyed by the existing Su-57s?

[Marson35]

What kind of news do not open, through the sentence "the enemy suffers huge losses ..." Who cares what kind of losses they bear there ?! The enemy is succeeding... And we, as I understand it, do not suffer any losses, but at the same time we leave the territories that we annexed a day ago. Great...

[tolmachiev51]

One "failure" and how much "dirt" climbed in terms of organizing the NWO. Tellingly, the talker Konashenkov is silent, that is, think and say what you want.

[Dikson]

This morning they write in the news feed - "A calm situation is maintained in Berislav without hostilities" .. well, that is, as I understand it, this is the next city after Krasny Liman, which is being prepared for "rapid withdrawal to more convenient positions"?

[donavi49]

This is the effect of Palmyra-4 Highway (this is when from Aleppo to the Euphrates the gut went along the highway without a rear) = when a breakthrough happens, loss of control of troops, a run, panic reaches the far rear. The Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot travel 70 km in a day, even without fighting. They walked about 25 km - taking 3 villages.

The key to Watermelon's breakthrough is simple - building in one line. If the position is broken through, then the race is on, who will overtake whom to the next empty rear village, where there is no defense and it can only be defended by the commandant's office.

A strike in the Kherson direction according to the classics is an offensive in the expected place (Davydov Ford) with an imitation of all seriousness, pulling fire brigades there, after the main blow.

[Ludmila Myshkina]

why didn’t they and don’t do it near Liman and in the Kherson direction? how many "new lines" will there be? front?

[Azis]

What kind of cart is in the photo in the background, behind the MDK?

[Plowman]

The front continues to crumble all over. There is no number, where did they go .. the soldiers are poor. The chief military leaders are silent, walking around at the celebrations.

[agond]

That machine, which is in the picture, could dig trenches wherever possible in the summer.

[Alexey Lantukh]

Good machine. When he served in the early 70s, he saw him in action. Even then it was not new. Is that how old she is? 60-70?

[acetophenone]

Quote from Fizik13

Quote: Kronos

... that Kassad writes about a different direction-By the evening of October 2, the situation in the Nikopol direction worsened. The enemy advances to the south in the direction of Berislav across the Golden Balka...

Is your Kassad fighting or how are you sitting on the couch?
During the Second World War, such gossip WAS NOT! According to the law of war, for such misinformation, TO THE WALL and without talking!

Yah! And what about Konashenkov, who lies with his blue eye? And the one who SENT HIM TO LIE - where? But the harm from incorrect data transmitted within the state by those who are obliged to transmit it is much more than from Internet chatter. The authorities are lying to us, but even worse is that they are lying to themselves. And they believe in their own lies. And on the basis of their own lies, they make the wrong decisions.

[alekc75]

from which shed did you get the equipment? where is the super technique that Shoigu boasted ??? can send more convicts with shovels????

[arbitr459gmail.com]

As always in our history, we learn to fight already during the war, paying for our studies with losses and loss of territory. Where is the vaunted space intelligence, reb and other goodies?

[Alexander Tkachenko]

They say that EXPERIENCE is what we got instead of what we wanted to get.

[mitroha]

Judging by the comments, the light in the Saloreikha was still turned on ... Or was it just Tsipso powered up?
But I see, by the minuses, only Tsipso was powered