Assault groups of PMC "Wagner" reached the southern outskirts of Artyomovsk, having carried out reconnaissance in combat in the area of ​​Experienced

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Assault groups of PMC "Wagner" reached the southern outskirts of Artyomovsk, having carried out reconnaissance in combat in the area of ​​Experienced

The allied forces reached the outskirts of Artemovsk (Bakhmut) from the south, this afternoon in the area of ​​​​the village of Experienced, assault groups of "musicians" from the PMC "Wagner" conducted reconnaissance in force. This is reported by a number of Russian TG channels.

Units of the allied forces, and above all the fighters from the "orchestra" named after Wagner, reached the southern outskirts of Artemovsk. The information is unofficial, in the Ukrainian public it is reported that the assault groups of the "Wagnerites" were seen in the area of ​​​​the village of Experience, which is actually part of the city. After conducting reconnaissance in force and opening enemy firing points, the fighters retreated. It is reported that in this area, a machine gun was working for more than an hour for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.



Against the backdrop of the events taking place in the area of ​​Kupyansk and Krasny Liman, the topic of Artemovsk somehow faded into the shadows, although today this is the only direction where ours are slowly but surely advancing. The eastern part of the city is already under ours, the assault groups occupied the industrial zone and proceeded to move deeper into the city, occupying residential areas. The forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine went beyond Bakhmutka, blowing up the only bridge leading to the western part of Artemovsk.


Meanwhile, details of the destruction of two groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with a total number of about 50 people appeared in the Davydov Brod area, the battle took place yesterday, October 1. As reported, in the area of ​​the crossing over the Ingulets, two reconnaissance groups from the 19th Territorial Defense Battalion and the special operations forces of the 140th Special Purpose Center united. The group, moving in Kozak armored vehicles, French VAB armored personnel carriers and civilian vehicles, was discovered by reconnaissance of the 76th Guards Air Assault Division using the Ironia optical-electronic reconnaissance complex.

The detected enemy was covered by artillery and mortar fire, after which he was partly destroyed, and partly fled, abandoning his equipment.
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  1. -30
    2 October 2022 18: 08
    along the way until the capture of Nata Moscow, Artemovsk will be stormed
    1. +24
      2 October 2022 18: 32
      Okay crap pig whistle, pessimistic am
    2. +10
      2 October 2022 18: 35
      Moscow? Is this in one of the US states?
      1. +1
        2 October 2022 19: 14
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Moscow? Is this in one of the US states?

        They have many villages under consonant names: Kyiv, Warsaw, Vilnius, Riga, Brussels, Paris, London...
        1. +8
          2 October 2022 19: 52
          Nope ... in Moscow there was already a large theater and there was not even a single state
          1. +5
            2 October 2022 23: 04
            well, yes, we built the Bolshoi Theater in Moscow in 1776
            - and in the USA July 4, 1776 - Independence Day from Great Britain
        2. +2
          2 October 2022 20: 55
          Washington, New York, Los Angeles and other villages you forgot!
        3. fiv
          +1
          2 October 2022 22: 37
          In the Chelyabinsk region Vienna, Paris, Ferchampenoise. The Cossacks were named, in memory of where they were
          1. +1
            3 October 2022 21: 57
            In Bashkiria there is Paris in the Alsheevsky district
        4. +2
          3 October 2022 01: 00
          We have Paris, Babylon and Warsaw. True, there are five houses left in Warsaw. But the sign is on the road
      2. +7
        2 October 2022 22: 48
        On the other hand, I don’t understand why they don’t bomb the Aerospace Forces, since it is known where there is an accumulation of the enemy in a small area.
      3. -1
        3 October 2022 15: 53
        There is also closer, for example, the Moscow River in Transcarpathia.
    3. +14
      2 October 2022 18: 46
      dill, Moscow is capitalized. Don't sweat it, weirdo.
      1. +9
        2 October 2022 19: 55
        And why should he write with a capital letter, no homeland, no flag, a fictional country, a fictional story, a dog language, not even a language.
    4. 0
      3 October 2022 12: 50
      To the north, a breach was made in the defense. If they go to the Lisichansk refinery. That forms the threat of the boiler
  2. +16
    2 October 2022 18: 08
    . Well, at least some good news!
    Musicians set the beat!
    1. +9
      2 October 2022 18: 15
      The musicians set the pace. Tact is different soldier
    2. +19
      2 October 2022 18: 29
      Put the company commanders of Wagner in command of the fronts, otherwise the "regroupings" will bring the army right up to Khabarovsk ....
      1. +15
        2 October 2022 18: 39
        About the company "orchestra". These people (offended and insulted at one time in the army), but principled and knowledgeable, who received a military education and have experience. Here is the result. Well, often bosses do not like literate and smart.
      2. +6
        2 October 2022 18: 39
        They have a flexible structure, the detachments, depending on the tasks, are not bound by Charters.
        1. +7
          2 October 2022 18: 45
          Not bound by statutes.

          The rear, medicine, tanks and artillery, aviation and communications, the supply of fuel and ammunition, mine clearance and the organization of crossings are also not connected ....
          They are busy with the war according to "their own" concepts, and not combat regulations ..... But what about these others, unnecessary backup dancers? So let's remove the extra ones, spawn PMCs and everything is in order.
          1. +4
            2 October 2022 18: 50
            Of course not.
            In the local sector, such a detachment shows high efficiency, not burdened by the rear, all that you wrote about.
            1. +16
              2 October 2022 19: 14
              And who will bring the BC .. that is, will it give a lift? Provide artillery support... We are all heroes on the couch = every gopher in the field is an agronomist. I was also "offended" - a jacket. Especially when he left the "true" warriors in the "ass" at all exercises. I blocked all their standards by 2-3 times (where the connection with calculations is with mathematics. Oh, and it infuriated them. Especially political workers, I regularly sent them on an erotic journey, damn stupid people, true political workers. I have one sergeant after the history department - he served for a year - at the spring test, he drove the colonel from the district to hell. He ruled at every step. The guy loved military history. And his memory was phenomenal.)
              1. +1
                2 October 2022 19: 25
                Well, all PMCs have 80% of income from logistics, just, they definitely don’t need to be taught this.
                And I don’t think that anyone is counting on artillery support there, the connection is secure, there is no one to merge, the traditional problem of coordination, when EVERYTHING merges.
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                2. 0
                  3 October 2022 09: 58
                  Yeah, and our own cartridge factories ...
                  1. 0
                    6 October 2022 01: 36
                    I didn't understand sarcasm.
                    If you are building a house under a government contract, will you open a nail factory first?
          2. 0
            3 October 2022 16: 01
            We were preparing for the last war, but it was necessary for the next one. The passage of time has accelerated and it is necessary to react to changes promptly. According to statistics, 80 percent of Russian citizens work with the Internet. I wonder who's in the 20s. There are sad suspicions.
      3. -14
        2 October 2022 18: 52
        Quote: Thrifty
        Wagner company commanders put in command of the fronts

        Yeah, and on the front end - penalty boxers from the developers of the Stalin Canal, since the army cannot cope with Bandera.
        1. +9
          2 October 2022 19: 09
          Tov. Mordvin, - enough about the developers of the channel ... I'm tired ... All this market of yours - we already know what it has led to ... But, in general, this is spitting on our history and our glorious fathers, who, unlike you, defended the Fatherland, not typing on the keyboard...
          1. -5
            2 October 2022 19: 25
            Quote: Sergey Drozdov
            This whole bazaar of yours - we already know what it has led to ...

            Why?
            Quote: Sergey Drozdov
            But, in general, this is spitting on our history and our glorious fathers, who, unlike you, defended the Fatherland, and did not knock on the keyboard ..

            And I don't spit on her. And the prisoners fought in accordance with the orders of the supreme, and not at the request of some PMC with their own "laws".
            1. +2
              2 October 2022 19: 53
              Zeki fought in commercial quantities? Those who served yes, in the ranks of the Red Army, and those who sat down, giving a convict a weapon is still a troublesome business.
              1. -1
                2 October 2022 20: 10
                Quote: Alexander Salenko
                Those who served yes, in the ranks of the Red Army, and those who sat down, giving a convict a weapon is still a troublesome business.

                As far as I know, they were released ahead of schedule, for minor crimes.
                1. 0
                  2 October 2022 21: 07
                  It may be, but the thieves would immediately pull off the weapon, entering into a criminal conspiracy with the same ones. Could give the political such an opportunity.
                  1. -3
                    2 October 2022 21: 12
                    Quote: Alexander Salenko
                    Could give the political such an opportunity.

                    The politicals were not released.
          2. +1
            3 October 2022 09: 56
            Exactly. Remember the cross-eyed talk show on everyone, he also talked all about Stalin's repressions along with the Chukhons (Amanuel and the second unfinished Lithuanian artist, it seems ...) Stones of sorrow were set in every city - the Latvian arrows destroyed the Russians more than STALIN exiled the "forest brothers" to the camps . Moreover, now their children are also paid extra for pensions (if they were born "under supervision")
      4. 0
        2 October 2022 20: 57
        You can get to Khabarovsk even without Wagner's company commanders, but to the city of Paris or Londoton is another matter
      5. +3
        2 October 2022 23: 06
        tactics have changed - no boilers
        BARS volunteers on the defensive, no tanks, only art support
        retreats in ledges - with the destruction of all suitable reserves and attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
    3. +1
      2 October 2022 18: 33
      Musicians appear in the media all the time. And they probably have more losses than in the army. Ours announced the losses of the army, and the losses of PMCs and the National Guard probably go separately. They wrote about the presence of the Ministry of Emergency Situations and internal troops there. Are their losses included in the MO statistics? The Navy is also fighting there. And not just on ships. PMCs, of course, are promoted into consciousness as the most elite units. PMC advertising hangs, downhole songs (even Solovyov spun. Wagner with a chevron!). After watching the news, one gets the impression that everyone is fighting on their own there. There is no single command, no strategy. One Kadyrov rushes around in an attempt to organize something. And he is right when he says that some need to be demoted from generals to privates. The current system does not provide for punishment for managers for rubbing their hands. This is bad for the economy and the army. Stars should not only be given, but also removed. And give direction from the offices to the front. Then not only musicians will fight, but also penalty box managers. In the meantime, the heroism of the musicians is more likely from (choose the word yourself) leadership. Here they laughed that the army of gender-free people there would not last long. AND? It turned out that the army of martial miracle races defends itself quite stubbornly and does not run to other people's right men. There are even volunteers traveling to support gender-tolerant brethren.
      1. +4
        2 October 2022 19: 25
        There are no internal troops anymore, they formed the backbone, the main part of the National Guard. About the "Wagnerites", on the contrary, they write that they have fewer losses, due to their high professionalism.
  3. +16
    2 October 2022 18: 09
    The allied forces reached...

    Like Russia is already there all around. And still allied forces. We have several armies, and each with its own General Staff?
    1. -1
      3 October 2022 10: 50
      better with your General Staff than with Gerasimovsky
  4. +4
    2 October 2022 18: 10
    October will be hot, because no matter what they say, but time does not work for Ukraine, because when the cold comes, they will not be able to maintain the infrastructure and there will be a fierce ass. And every day the situation in the world will become more heated. Plus Biden is getting worse every day. No matter how nuclear war comes
    1. 0
      2 October 2022 18: 29
      Quote from Whitefall
      time does not work for Ukraine,

      Yes. Not to Ukraine. But not to Russia either.
      The main sadness and sorrow .. - That the "neighbors" will not just look .. as they once looked at the Iran-Iraq war (then there was the USSR, the guarantor).
    2. +3
      2 October 2022 19: 47
      Quote from Whitefall
      October will be hot, because no matter what they say, but time does not work for Ukraine, because when the cold comes, they will not be able to maintain the infrastructure and there will be a fierce ass. And every day the situation in the world will become more heated. Plus Biden is getting worse every day. No matter how nuclear war comes

      Why can't they maintain the infrastructure? Aid from the West is coming to them in trains. Weapons, ammunition, fuel, uniforms, food, medicines... They learned how to win, there is now an unprecedented rise in patriotism, Zelensky's rating is high... And Russia's gas pipeline to central Europe is left alone
      1. +3
        2 October 2022 23: 16
        And the gas pipeline from Russia to central Europe remained alone
        Not from Russia, it is from Europe that the gas pipeline from Russia is the only one left. In Russia, there is plenty of gas.
        1. 0
          3 October 2022 22: 50
          Quote from Rustic
          And the gas pipeline from Russia to central Europe remained alone
          Not from Russia, it is from Europe that the gas pipeline from Russia is the only one left. In Russia, there is plenty of gas.

          Okay, let me rephrase: the Russian oligarchy has
    3. 0
      3 October 2022 16: 06
      How is this related to the front? Will the toilets in the trenches freeze?
  5. -6
    2 October 2022 18: 11
    Mobilization among the people has been announced, maybe it's time to deimbitilize the General Staff so that there is positive news not only in the Bakhmut area?
    1. +4
      2 October 2022 18: 42
      Rotation, to the front line from the Arbat, for 3 months, you see, brains will work, and mobilization will no longer be needed ...
      1. +1
        2 October 2022 23: 19
        Rotation, to the front line from the Arbat, for 3 months, you see, brains will work, and mobilization will no longer be needed ...
        The front may not be needed. But on the Arbat it will definitely be needed. These "warriors" are not only there for 3 months, they won't last three days. lol
        1. -1
          2 October 2022 23: 51
          I mean that people are not given rest.
          Comrade, it’s true, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, from the first day, a day or two a month, he’s been at home.
          1. +1
            3 October 2022 00: 14
            For now, the Arbatskys will continue to sit in their offices and stir up their agreements. Everything will continue like this.
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      3. 0
        3 October 2022 16: 08
        Late. Arbat along the embankment in Batumi hangs out.
  6. +9
    2 October 2022 18: 12
    Regardless of the success of musicians, how to understand this:
    It is reported that in this area, a machine gun was working for more than an hour for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    The author wants to say that this is an awesome success, or an epic achievement?
    1. +5
      2 October 2022 19: 00
      Quote: BoyCat
      Is it an awesome success, or an epic achievement?

      Success. Surely they burned several barrels, thousands of rounds of ammunition and broke Rakov's typewriter. laughing
    2. +5
      2 October 2022 19: 01
      Quote: BoyCat
      for more than an hour a machine gun worked for the Armed Forces of Ukraine
      .

      By the way. To have an idea about the wear and tear of weapons (and, accordingly, about their production!).
      Let's say a PC machine gun with an interchangeable barrel, fired continuously for 2 hours. Both barrels will fire more than 30 rounds per barrel. It's complete wear and tear. It is necessary to change ... but only 000 hours.
      1. +1
        2 October 2022 23: 25
        Let's say a PC machine gun with an interchangeable barrel, fired continuously for 2 hours. Both barrels will fire more than 30 rounds per barrel.
        Do not fence the game. 2 PC barrels of 30 thousand rounds of ammunition in 2 hours will not even theoretically be released. 5-7 thousand I still believe, let it be a maximum of 10, and even that is very unlikely. But not 30. This is not Maxim for you.
        1. +1
          3 October 2022 16: 26
          With a rate of fire of 600 per minute minus reloading, changing the barrel is easy, in theory. But I'm just not talking about that, but about what the Stakhanovite machine gunner could achieve by dropping cartridges for more than an hour .... into the white light? I doubt that the musicians have such qualifications.
    3. 0
      3 October 2022 16: 10
      And I'll slap my ass and she'll come home from work, she's still shaking. I don't have a fat wife. We have the shortest working day.
  7. -3
    2 October 2022 18: 12
    For me, the most combat-ready unit of the Russian army
    1. +10
      2 October 2022 18: 17
      PMCs are not part of the RF Armed Forces, these guys are soldiers of fortune
      1. +3
        2 October 2022 18: 20
        They signed a contract with the Russian Federation, only through a gasket. The same contractors
        1. +10
          2 October 2022 18: 25
          Musicians fulfill a contract, today with one customer, tomorrow with another, they are not in the structure of the Moscow Region and in this sense they are never double basses, many of them are former high-class army specialists, they do not have the status of a military man, if not lucky - the state social package for them does not shine, but they know their business and know what they risk for
        2. 0
          6 October 2022 01: 32
          So, a thick pad).
          The contractor receives an apartment from the MO, earns a pension, etc.
          There is a temporary employment contract with a contractor company.
      2. 0
        3 October 2022 16: 12
        And the rest are soldiers of bad luck?
  8. +3
    2 October 2022 18: 13
    Well, at least some positive news.
  9. -1
    2 October 2022 18: 15
    This is the thing ... Otherwise, liberalism was different, they lost the war ...
    PiSi: and PMCs are justifying themselves, it's time to introduce a law on legalization to the State Duma, and not chew snot, otherwise Luk-A has been with us for 30 years, and all 30 years he has been a private security company, yeah, go and supply security guards to Auchan
    1. +3
      2 October 2022 18: 17
      They are already in the legal field, they are not mercenaries.
      1. +4
        2 October 2022 18: 21
        Legalization as a PMC will open up many other possibilities. Is it normal to prepare and maintain the shape of, for example, a tank gunner, are they capable of? Go ahead, PMCs are driven under the strictest control of the Ministry of Defense, and at our training grounds - hosh, keep your equipment, hosh train ...
        So in the US won - every year - on the report
    2. +4
      2 October 2022 18: 22
      So the conductor of the musicians is categorically against the fact that the state fool touched the PMC. As the conductor said, everything suits the musicians anyway, otherwise the state fool is now inventing, and then we will not be able to work normally without this bureaucracy.
      1. +7
        2 October 2022 18: 50
        Do you think Erik Prince is for state control? laughing
        That is why it is necessary to legalize it, so as not to create a gang of atamans Gritsanov.
        And with the State Duma ... As for me, they should be disbanded altogether - democracy does not work, the country is at war, they come up with some kind of vocational school holiday - they have no more pressing matters. The Federation Council, the State Duma - in the oven, and let them yell that there is no democracy, they are already yelling
        1. +1
          2 October 2022 19: 08
          Quote: Cowbra
          Do you think Erik Prince is for state control? laughing
          That is why it is necessary to legalize it, so as not to create a gang of atamans Gritsanov.
          And with the State Duma ... As for me, they should be disbanded altogether - democracy does not work, the country is at war, they come up with some kind of vocational school holiday - they have no more pressing matters. The Federation Council, the State Duma - in the oven, and let them yell that there is no democracy, they are already yelling

          Well, the Prince always had a personal squad in Russia)))
          As for the rest, there is another option))) Collect all this shoblu at the training ground in tents under autumn rain and frost, conduct combat coordination for a couple of weeks, send those who survive to the front line in the Krasny Liman region and let them show miracles of heroism.
  10. +10
    2 October 2022 18: 25
    It turns out that all the good fellows separately - Wagnerites, Kadyrovites, Cossacks, Airborne Forces, marines, etc., and together like a swan, cancer and pike. There is no commander capable of uniting everyone into a single team. And without unity, it will be very difficult to win.
    1. +1
      2 October 2022 19: 49
      Quote: Leshak
      It turns out that all the good fellows separately - Wagnerites, Kadyrovites, Cossacks, Airborne Forces, marines, etc., and together like a swan, cancer and pike. There is no commander capable of uniting everyone into a single team. And without unity, it will be very difficult to win.

      Politicians do not allow to shred the Ukrainian infrastructure... Negotiations
  11. +7
    2 October 2022 18: 26
    PMC professionals, war is their job. And in the army there is drill training. educational, etc. That's where the basis of combat capability. At one time, the brigade commander told me: They will learn to fight in the war, but your combatant, major, is lame. To my words that before marching through enemy cities, you first need to take them and save them, he said that I did not understand anything and was generally a slob. The contract was just ending and I did not renew.
    1. -4
      2 October 2022 18: 57
      Quote: Old_Major
      At one time, the brigade commander told me: They will learn to fight in the war, but your combatant, major, is lame.

      Right words. But there is no support on this site. The level of reenactors and fighters of computer simulators reigns in the minds of the local strategists.
  12. -2
    2 October 2022 18: 27
    The group, moving in Kozak armored vehicles, French VAB armored personnel carriers and civilian vehicles, was discovered by reconnaissance of the 76th Guards Air Assault Division using the Ironia optical-electronic reconnaissance complex. The detected enemy was covered by artillery and mortar fire, after which he was partly destroyed, and partly fled, abandoning his equipment.
    The name corresponds to the product of the intelligence complex by 100%. The irony of the events will not let go of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for a long time.
  13. -1
    2 October 2022 18: 33
    Vivat, guys, uncover the pig cutters ... the main thing is not to take prisoner wassat
  14. +4
    2 October 2022 18: 37
    Where is the news from the north-east of the Kherson region? Even almost all the TG channels went silent. Info only from Girkin and Two Majors:
    "Kherson region.
    The defense of the Russian Armed Forces is now held near the settlement of Dudchany. "

    To lose 0 km of territories along the Dnieper in a day is some kind of ... A threat to Kakhovka. And here they are discussing another 100m promotion in Artemovsk.
  15. +4
    2 October 2022 18: 38
    It is reported that in this area, a machine gun was working for more than an hour for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


    It turns out that this is the main positive message for today! Thank you!
  16. -3
    2 October 2022 18: 40
    Khkhly is already near Kremennaya, which is 30 km from Liman. While our brave generals have been storming one village for months, neither urban development nor the enemy interferes.
  17. +11
    2 October 2022 18: 42
    I'm looking at who "hait" Ours there +, it's true, democracy - We all know they do crap ... they just sit on their ass exactly ...
    And if someone writes that this is not bad, we have to wait, victory is ours ... ALL the minuses, you are a stupid person, prone to propaganda, or personally an agent of Putin ...
    People, who are you for in this war? It's one thing to analyze the situation, another thing is the panic and licking of the Anglo-Saxons, do you know the whole situation? Why this panic? This is a WAR, and not everything always goes smoothly ... but at the first defeats you are ready (again, verbally, from a tag) to equalize everyone with shit .... Have you been there? You draw such conclusions ... reconsider the interview with Bodrov .. and think, (although, why should I appeal to conscience, I'm waiting for minuses, because I pour feces on our army and president)
    1. +7
      2 October 2022 18: 56
      Quote from PrAkyror
      I'm looking at who "hait" Ours there +, it's true, democracy - We all know they do crap ... they just sit on their ass exactly ...

      First, it is always easier to criticize.
      Secondly, there are real shortcomings in command and control.
      Thirdly, the site is full of cips who work against one group.

      Quote from PrAkyror
      waiting for cons
      Let's fix it, Alex.
      1. -6
        2 October 2022 20: 38
        Quote: Terenin
        Thirdly, the site is full of cips who work against one group

        Why are you all looking for enemies on the site, the main enemies are in the center of Moscow and are sitting in the ruble.
        1. +2
          3 October 2022 15: 12
          Quote: lis-ik
          Quote: Terenin
          Thirdly, the site is full of cips who work against one group

          Why are you all looking for enemies on the site, the main enemies are in the center of Moscow and are sitting in the ruble.

          Well, then the facts ... otherwise you can be accused of being the main enemy, without facts then winked
          1. -2
            3 October 2022 15: 25
            Quote: Terenin
            Quote: lis-ik
            Quote: Terenin
            Thirdly, the site is full of cips who work against one group

            Why are you all looking for enemies on the site, the main enemies are in the center of Moscow and are sitting in the ruble.

            Well, then the facts ... otherwise you can be accused of being the main enemy, without facts then winked

            Where are the facts about the site? And about the enemies in the Kremlin, they show the events of the last eight years, and what’s there since the collapse of the USSR. I am surprised at such protection of the Kremlin scoundrels and their entourage.
            1. +2
              3 October 2022 15: 56
              Quote: lis-ik
              Where are the facts about the site?

              So, you confirm that you have no facts "about the Kremlin".
              1. -1
                3 October 2022 16: 14
                Quote: Terenin
                Quote: lis-ik
                Where are the facts about the site?

                So, you confirm that you have no facts "about the Kremlin".

                as much as you like, the whole country knows about them. By the way, today even in the State Duma questions to the authorities have appeared, but you are not even embarrassed that mirror events are taking place now, which were in Ukraine just a few months ago. They made conclusions, but we have a big question. Continue riding the rainbow pony with rose-colored glasses. You probably also have a TV as your best friend, but not a single thing on the street.
                1. +3
                  3 October 2022 18: 13
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  and not to the people on the street.

                  Well, tell us about the street and the people, only with facts, and not just
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  as much as you like, the whole country knows about them.
                  and then you just

                  lis-ik (Sergey)
                  Today, 15: 16
                  Yesterday I crossed Moscow from end to end, through the center. by car and in shock.
                  and, I, because of a small pension, I continue
                  Quote: lis-ik
                  ride a rainbow pony in pink glasses.
                  laughing
                  1. -1
                    3 October 2022 18: 22
                    So I don’t get everything for free, I have 2 jobs, my wife also works, which, despite the efforts of the authorities, allows me to live with dignity. And yes, traveling around Moscow by car is a dubious pleasure, partly because of this, I moved out of town, and I work there. I understand that you are retired, who else will stand up for power like that.
                    1. +2
                      3 October 2022 19: 34
                      Quote: lis-ik
                      I understand that you are retired, who else will stand up for power like that.

                      Yes, Sergei. I, for the power that exists, will still fight, wink to the best of its ability, because without power there will be in general - ... anarchy ... with all the consequences Yes
    2. +7
      2 October 2022 19: 05
      Quote from PrAkyror
      (although, why should I appeal to conscience, I’m waiting for minuses, because I’m pouring feces on our army and president)
      Do not be afraid and do not pay attention to the cons, the main thing is your opinion and voice. The foam always thinks that it is the best because it is at the top, but it never thinks about that - the first thing the cook will do when he opens the lid, he will collect all the foam and into the sink, that is, into the sewer. So do your thing the way you see fit.
    3. +2
      2 October 2022 19: 17
      Quote from PrAkyror
      People, who are you for in this war? It's one thing to analyze the situation, another thing is the panic and licking of the Anglo-Saxons, do you know the whole situation? Why this panic? This is a WAR, and not everything always goes smoothly ... but at the first defeats you are ready (again, verbally, from a tag) to equalize everyone with shit ....

      In the Great Patriotic War, alarmists were shot. And it is right. Now at least start practicing for this bringing to criminal liability under Art. 207.3 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
  18. -3
    2 October 2022 18: 55
    How so? They seem to have been stuck on Patrice Lulumba Street for the third month already. And here they write that they have reached the outskirts. Did they lie or what?
    1. 0
      2 October 2022 20: 20
      You need to approach the city from the south. The assault on the city is possible only on a broad front. But this is not the best way. It would be more correct to bypass and force the APU to retreat.
  19. -1
    2 October 2022 19: 00
    This news is two weeks old.
  20. +7
    2 October 2022 19: 06
    the more Russia plays for time, the more defeats, wounded and killed will be. enough already "8 ​​years ...". the question is where were these 8 years of the special structure, didn’t they see that powerful fortified areas, biological laboratories, fortifications and equipment with weapons were being built? the longer the special operation drags on, the more Ukrainians who support the SVO will change their minds, the more military and civilians will die, the financial and military capabilities of the Russian forces will dry up. Someone grows fat in the military business, many become disabled or die. Why are the TV and radio towers of Ukraine, which provide broadcasting of zombies, not being destroyed? why is the infrastructure that provides the supply of weapons, equipment, manpower, mercenaries not being destroyed? where is the fulfillment of promises to destroy "control points"? Foreign politicians and representatives of the armed forces of Western countries go to Kyiv as if they were at home or on an excursion. Why didn’t they do all this in 2014, when eastern Ukraine was in favor of reunification with Russia, but let neo-Nazis commit atrocities in this territory? and now we hear from the leadership of the country at all levels: for 8 years they have been killing, etc. yes, ours are fighting in Ukraine, honor and praise be to them. on the other hand, many men who are able to defend their land have left the theater of operations for Russia and are feeling very well. the young Russian gene pool dies there, receives irreparable injuries, and Russian citizenship is obtained by age Ukrainians, most of whom did not work for the good of Ukraine, but began to receive Russian pensions and benefits, while the people of Russia are on the verge of a beggarly existence, having thrashed for 40 or more years (low salaries, pensions, scholarships). What is the "living wage"? not from a series of whether the second world war? from the German camps, when they calculated the food ration in order to maintain the minimum necessary for the survival of prisoners? Russia is the richest country, but wealth is in the hands of 15% of the population. In what circles did Mr. Chubais move? Where is he now? what wealth do our valiant "servants of the people and the sovereign's servants" have abroad? Lord, give reason to all of us and punish the enemies of our own people with divine power. for there is no rule of law in Russia, but there is a state of a handful of rich people and officials who have turned the state into a punitive police body. I'm sorry, maybe I'm wrong, but this is just a cry from the heart. Lord, save your people and your warriors, may peace and creation be sent to every family
  21. 0
    2 October 2022 19: 06
    I read that the 500s were sent to their units for "re-education".
  22. +2
    2 October 2022 19: 50
    It is reported that in this area, a machine gun was working for more than an hour for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    One thing, I understand everything, but is this really serious news? Here the issue of Kreminnaya is on the agenda, I really didn’t think that we would get to this, but here a machine gun was working. It is certainly good, but they reported several times that they went to Artyomovsk.
  23. +1
    2 October 2022 20: 18
    Wagner advances on a garrison that outnumbers him twice
    1. 0
      2 October 2022 22: 30
      Fearless. They say that if they do not agree, they have a bullet and adies. Go ahead and no nails. Good luck to them, of course.
  24. +3
    2 October 2022 22: 03
    Quote: North Caucasus
    It turned out that the army of martial miracle races defends quite stubbornly and does not run to other people's right men

    Chudorasov in relation to ours (Russian Army, iron helmets, Wagner) 4 to 1.
    No matter how motivated our fighters are, the Ukroreich's superiority in numbers is overwhelming, plus online support from all satellites of the USA and Western Europe.
    Fighting in the minority, we try not to take off our "white gloves".
    It's time to hit the CPR in Kyiv.
    It’s a pity they missed the moment when columns of refugees were coming from Kyiv (ours were still holding Gostomel).
    Then there would be negligible losses among civilians.
    Why are all civilian airport runways intact, junctions, bridges, etc.? What kind of tactic is this. We were waiting to be met with flowers. Did not happen. Let them get worse.
    For each "saved" peaceful dill, our fighter dies.
    Remember how NATO bombed the bleeding out SFRY. Substations, roads, TV, radio, Temples and schools were on fire, and Borya Eltsyn drank bitter at that time.
    Leave untouched holy places, kindergartens, schools, level the rest of the infrastructure to the level of the Cretaceous period, otherwise Abrasha will again fly to Istanbul for negotiations, and "goodwill gestures" will begin.
  25. PCF
    -1
    2 October 2022 22: 25
    ... conducted reconnaissance in battle ...
    That is, there are no other intelligence facilities at the disposal. Pichalka.
  26. +1
    2 October 2022 23: 09
    And what is the strategic sense in general to gnaw so stubbornly (soon for three months) this Bakhmut? Well, let's say tomorrow happened, and Bakhmut-Artemovsk was taken. What's next? And then it is necessary to introduce masses of troops into the breakthrough and develop success. This is the alphabet. But this mass does not exist. That is, even with the successful capture of this defensive midfielder, we will simply run into the next one. Which again we will gnaw for three months or more. At the same time, it turns out that we will use our best assault forces where it makes no sense to use them ...
  27. +1
    2 October 2022 23: 49
    Let's start with this about the successful assault on Artemovsk - The offensive in the Donbass continues: artillery is constantly working on the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Artemovsk. August 6, 2022
    There is no need to throw a cap into the air and flaunt the coolness of the Wagner PMC, they stupidly fight on the outskirts of a small city, with heavy losses, it was because of the massive losses that Prigozhin began to travel around prisons and recruit especially dangerous criminals from prisons into Wagner. If someone thinks that the bandits, after receiving an amnesty, they will return to civilian life, then I hasten to disappoint you, this will not happen, they can only kill, rob and rape, and having combat experience and bringing weapons with them, they will not be afraid not like ordinary employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but they will also repulse special forces soldiers
  28. 0
    3 October 2022 01: 19
    GOOD MUSICIANS! They are probably the only ones who are now advancing.
  29. 0
    3 October 2022 06: 08
    This Wagner, and even a little bang, should be added from geraniums according to the victorious Nazis, he can remember when not only Moscow, but also in Brussels will be requested.
  30. 0
    3 October 2022 08: 31
    It's a shame a little, at an early stage of the SVO, dill leaked in places like this, now, alas, we are proud of micro-successes
    It's time to change the pattern of warfare
    1. 0
      3 October 2022 14: 30
      Quote: Romanenko
      It's time to change the pattern of warfare

      as Krylov says there: "... and you are friends, no matter how you sit down, everyone .... you are not good" - this is not Wagner's address, but Arbatsky's
  31. 0
    3 October 2022 16: 15
    In my opinion, we have all the problems from an excess of laws. As with the beginning of perestroika, they began to create a legal field, so they planted it with such weeds that you can’t take a step without a tank. And in PMCs there is one law. Or you him or he you.
    1. 0
      3 October 2022 16: 59
      Well, do not transfer the entire army to PMCs?
      Although.... laughing laughing