Russian troops neutralized the attempt of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to counterattack from three directions at once - Ministry of Defense

The Ministry of Defense confirms the attempt of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, undertaken in the Nikolaev-Kryvyi Rih direction. According to the military department, the enemy struck in three areas at once, trying to knock down the defense of the Russian troops from a swoop with the development of the offensive deep into the defense.

Reportedly, the main attack was made in the Davydov Brod area, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine managed to assemble a shock fist from six battalions, including two tank. At the same time, a strike was made in the area of ​​​​Bruskinskoye and Kostromka by the forces of two reinforced battalion tactical groups. However, the enemy failed to break into the defense of the Russian troops, he was thrown back to previous positions. Russian artillery played an important role in repelling the attack and aviation.

According to data provided by the military, during the offensive, the enemy lost 31 tanks, 78 units of special equipment and more than 240 servicemen. In total, during the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction amounted to 43 tanks, 89 infantry fighting vehicles and various armored vehicles, including pickup trucks with mounted machine guns. In terms of personnel - over 400 military. The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine again does not take into account losses.

In the northern direction: in the Kupyansk region, over 100 Ukrainian servicemen and 12 units of military equipment were destroyed by missile strikes. In the Krasnolimansky direction, aviation attacked the advancing units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the enemy lost more than 200 people killed, 320 wounded, 10 tanks and 25 infantry fighting vehicles were destroyed.

During the day, artillery, aviation and missile troops struck at manpower and military equipment in 178 districts, 7 RAV and ammunition depots, and S-300 air defense radars were destroyed. Air defense shot down eight drones and destroyed 22 HIMARS MLRS shells in the air. One Tochka-U ballistic missile was intercepted.

Comments

[dmi.pris1]

Why is it silent about Zolotaya Balka? Since we are at war, so lay it out, including what we cannot boast of

[Sniper]

"According to the data provided by the military, during the offensive, the enemy lost 31 tanks, 78 units of special equipment and more than 240 servicemen. In total, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in this direction amounted to 43 tanks, 89 armored personnel carriers and various armored vehicles, including pickup trucks with mounted machine guns. In terms of personnel - over 400 military.
- In the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine again they do not take into account the losses.
something me ceased to be interested in their losses. I am interested, we have not moved away from our defense lines!

[dmi.pris1]

Did you write about that same beam? According to the military correspondents, at 2 a.m. there are different numbers and the result ..

[neworange88]

The Americans, commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, do not feel sorry for the natives. They need a result.

.The fact that not everything is fine with us, it became clear a long time ago. At first there were questions about planning a special operation, then about equipping the army with drones, which turned out to be needed like air in a real war. I had to hastily plug the gaps in the defense by buying UAVs from Iran. Due to the shortage of forces involved in the NMD, the fighting in the Donbass took on a positional character, which gave the enemy time to mobilize and retrain a new army according to NATO standards, bringing the Armed Forces of Ukraine to 700-750 thousand people, which is many times greater than the Russian grouping. Already in August 2022, this gave its bitter fruits: taking advantage of the multiple numerical superiority, the Ukrainian army launched a large-scale counteroffensive on two fronts at once, and in Kharkov managed to quickly achieve serious strategic successes. ..... The situation with the Balakleysko-Izyum operation was repeated one on one. As before the Kharkiv offensive, literally everyone on both sides of the front line knew in advance that the Ukrainian army was accumulating reserves to encircle the Krasny Liman, which was held by a small motley garrison, represented by poorly trained “mobiles” from the LNR, experienced but not having heavy weapons BARS fighters, and parts of the Russian 20th Army. ..... Perhaps they would have held out for some more time, but without heavy weapons, ammunition for them and reliable communications, you won’t win much on bare enthusiasm against an enemy many times superior in numbers, trained and equipped according to NATO standards.

https://topcor.ru/28421-kakie-vyvody-dolzhny-byt-sdelany-posle-tragedii-izjuma-i-krasnogo-limana.html

To conduct a special military operation in Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the DPR and the LPR engaged a group of troops, the total number of which, according to foreign analysts, was no more than 150 thousand people. It is important to note that the personnel of the RF Armed Forces in the formation of this grouping was and remains exclusively represented by contract soldiers. The above-mentioned grouping could well have been enough to crush the Armed Forces of Ukraine if Western countries had not decided to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian, and the Kyiv regime would have enthusiastically did not support the decision. Kyiv began to receive large amounts of assistance from the West: financial, supplies of fuels and lubricants / weapons / ammunition, military advisory, providing opportunities for the repair of military equipment and training of personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of foreign states, prompt provision of intelligence from space and electronic intelligence by the relevant Western government agencies. All this allowed the Armed Forces of Ukraine not only not to “wear off” in the battles of the first two months of the NMD, but also to begin to increase their numbers. By the end of the first week of July, according to the statement of the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Oleksiy Reznikov, due to active mobilization measures, the total number of , the National Guard, the State Border Service, and so on), which Kyiv can use against the allied forces, was brought to 1 million people. Most likely, this figure was still less.

https://riafan.ru/23672977-na_oboznachennom_vchera_vladimirom_putinim_pole_bitvi_za_bol_shuyu_istoricheskuyu_rossiyu_pora_viigrivat

[newtc7]

How enrage these idiotic deceitful people are talking about the West and Kyiv's decision about the war to the last Ukrainian.
And the USSR did not fight in the Second World War to the last man?
They have a patriotic war and they are fully prepared to fight in it to the end, they have the right to do so and to accuse them of this is such a lie and manipulation of our authorities, what else do you need to look for.
They still cannot accept the fact that the Ukrainians did not give up in the first two weeks and decided to fight.
What do you want from them: for the West to stop supporting and the Ukrainians to stop fighting? This will not happen, accept it already as a fact and as the conditions of the problem.
Talentless, illiterate and simply stupid leaders of our country will lead us into darkness. However, we are already in it just so far on the streets of our cities it is not so noticeable

[Dart2027]

Quote from: newtc7

And the USSR did not fight in the Second World War to the last man?

Well, he tried not to overwhelm the enemy with corpses at the behest of the United States.

[Kiril Letov]

Dear, you apparently forgot about the Rzhev battle, about which the veteran and historian Pyotr Mikhin, who went through the war from Rzhev to Prague, wrote about the Rzhev tragedy, or about the tragedy of the Second Shock Army. So not everything was so unambiguous in the tactics and methodology of the Soviet Army in order to idealize it.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Kiril Letov

So not everything was so simple in the tactics and methodology of the Soviet Army

Quote: Dart2027

fill up the enemy with corpses on orders from the USA

[Alexander Salenko]

And you probably didn’t read about the Berlin operation, where we changed places a little with the Wehrmacht and its allies.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

They have a patriotic war and they are fully prepared to fight in it to the end, they have the right to do so and to accuse them of this is such a lie and manipulation of our authorities, what else do you need to look for.
They still cannot accept the fact that the Ukrainians did not give up in the first two weeks and decided to fight.

Well, in Germany, what did the Germans fight for in 1945? I think the meaning is about the same. I'm not going to deal with this crap. I personally do not care what ybludku from Ukraine are fighting for. The Ukrainian army must be destroyed. Grief must come to the family of every soldier. This state must disappear from the map of the world.

[zloybond]

if we finally put everything in its place and stop applying it (as some of us like to say double standards), then you need to decide and accept - if we don’t like that there is an oath on the other side and someone is fulfilling it, then either we withdraw the recognition of that authorities and recognize them as terrorists - or accept their right to protect their interests. Our government will not decide in any way - with whom we are fighting in the end (we are conducting SVO against whom) ????
It’s like, for example, you hear the slogan “we don’t leave our own” and a vivid example of this is not abandoned “Kum”, but best of all, a red jackal who was painlessly released abroad. It is especially pleasing that our ala propagandists profusely and actively stigmatize those ordinary citizens who rushed for the cardon but immediately actively keep silent in a rag about the iconic inviolable figures who left them and let them out (because "their own") BUT they set an example for others - this is there are double standards.
Why are the chosen ones inviolable???
I think Iosif Vissarionovich did not choose "his own" among the traitors.
Betrayed - smear your forehead!

[Alebedev]

They have a domestic war and they are fully prepared to fight in it to the end,

And did anyone consider the escaped Ukrainians, who are buried in foreign countries from graves?

[newtc7]

Quote: Alebedev

They have a domestic war and they are fully prepared to fight in it to the end,

And did anyone consider the escaped Ukrainians, who are buried in foreign countries from graves?

Pancake cheers patriots attacked.
Yes, they fled, but there are people from those who remained who are for us.
BUT this does not change the fact that the vast majority of those who remained strongly opposed to us: and they are trying, they are fighting to the fullest, unlike us. Yes, they cross the brink of a "noble" war, they do not fight in white gloves, unlike us.
The message of my post is - what's the point of being angry with the wolf that he is a wolf? He was and will be. And to walk and groan and gasp oh what a bad people they are ruining their people, it's pointless at all. To whom do you want to return the brains? The world will no longer be. Therefore, you need to win, to fight hard for real. Are they ready to kill a huge number of their called? So you need to give them such an opportunity and save your own as much as possible.
Blaming the West that it is so bad is simply stupid, it is like that, and we need to defeat it somehow. It is better to immediately expect the worst possible from them, and not continue to believe in some principles and red lines.
Yes, if they had such an opportunity, they would have showered us with nuclear missiles and explained to the whole world that "cheers, we saved you from evil Russia."
Therefore, these indignations about the losses from the other side, “oh, they don’t spare their people,” they don’t regret, yes, but this is their right, and we just need to take this into account, accepting it as a fact.

[NAF-NAF]

They have a patriotic war ...

- in the liberated regions of Ukraine, 95% of the population quite clearly indicated WHERE their Fatherland is. (Or were there evil Russian submachine gunners standing behind everyone? But observers from a bunch of countries did not notice anything like this at recent referendums ..)

[North Caucasus]

They have a patriotic war and they are fully prepared to fight in it to the end, they have the right to do so and to accuse them of this is such a lie and manipulation of our authorities, what else do you need to look for.
They still cannot accept the fact that the Ukrainians did not give up in the first two weeks and decided to fight.

That's why Crimea and four other regions did not give up, fought off Bandera and returned to Russia.

[Ivanushka-555]

It's all right bro. But most of the local hacks are outright idiots. It seems to them all that the Ukrainians should humbly watch how we squeeze their territory from them! ... My advice to idiots - remember how you felt when Putin handed over the disputed territory to the Chinese. Remembered? Now imagine what a Ukrainian must think when the Russians take away his territories! ... I'm not against SVO, but against pseudo-patriotism and idiocy!

[Alexander Salenko]

I am Ukrainian and how should I feel? Member of the annexation of the Crimea. Can you tell what this frankly fake state gave the Ukrainians? Well, tell me why this is Crimea, just why should there be a fright in that ridiculous state? After the referendum, I never once heard people talking about the inhabitants of the peninsula themselves. That's how you talked about the territory.

[Myths]

Open the borders for those who do not want to stay and fight in Ukraine, then you will see how they want to die for this power. Or do you think that they voluntarily go for it? Whoever had the loot they immediately dumped. Yes, they don’t meet with flowers, and there are really a lot of those who are against it, and there are also ideological ones ready to kill everyone and everything. And this is not a patriotic war, but an artificial division of people into one's own.

[Turtle]

Are you comparing the USSR and the state of Hohloinapolis? It's funny, however, given what the Union fought for and what Pan Volodymyr is fighting for. Stop drugs.

[newtc7]

Quote: Turtle

Are you comparing the USSR and the state of Hohloinapolis? It's funny, however, given what the Union fought for and what Pan Volodymyr is fighting for. Stop drugs.

You have this view and I share it. But those who live there think differently, they already have a different coordinate system. Most sincerely believe that aggressive Russia has come to attack their country and is supporting Pan Vladimir with all its might.

[Yuriy1000]

I have to agree with your opinion, but after October 4-5, we’ll see, if we don’t tumble in with carpet bombing and start destroying infrastructure, then there’s definitely no point in waiting for anything good ...

[ZAV69]

Well, we see how Kherson and Zaporozhye decided to fight. It was necessary to remove the channel of Russophobic propaganda and in 3 months everything turned upside down.
And you, dear, brought criticism like that and suggest what to do

[chetvertak]

There are 31 tanks in the balloon, if they rushed with two tank battalions, then 62 tanks in one direction. And how many directions were there? two three? But how much do the data tell us correct? The affected equipment was quickly calculated, and we delivered 3 np strikes from the APU!
The Armed Forces of Ukraine took control of Shevchenkovka Belyaevka Zolotaya Balka in the Kherson region. The Russian-speaking population in Ukraine will finally be forcibly converted into Ukrainians according to the Polish method

[Arsi55]

Konashenko nervously smokes on the sidelines, some say that the dill has no tanks and that all aircraft were destroyed in the first week, then every day we kill 1000 soldiers and 40 tanks and 5 aircraft each. What's going on anyway?

[newtc7]

Quote: Arsi55

Konashenko nervously smokes on the sidelines, some say that the dill has no tanks and that all aircraft were destroyed in the first week, then every day we kill 1000 soldiers and 40 tanks and 5 aircraft each. What's going on anyway?

I have two suspicions about this:
1. As for the technique, I think that it is considered struck. Well, that is, they knocked him out, hit him there, maybe the BC exploded, or maybe the caterpillar fell off. All are recorded in destroyed. But in fact, they drag most of their equipment from the battlefield, then repair it and throw it back into battle. All the same, in order to completely destroy the tank, you need to blow up the tank, otherwise even if the crew died, the car itself can be patched up.
2. As for the people, they were given intelligence there and then there is a company of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they bang with an Iskander. How many companies - 120 people, well, 120 are recorded. And the fact that there, at the time of the hit, maybe one orderly was standing and the ensign was drunk lying around, this is no longer taken into account.
As a result, we have what we have: the Ukrainian army, which has already been destroyed a couple of times, continues to successfully advance.

[gsev]

Quote: dmi.pris

Why is there silence about Zolotaya Balka?

Strelkov frankly writes about the battles for the Zolotaya Balka, Shevchenkovka and Belyaevka. In addition, he explained who Kadyrov recommends to replace Reneral Lapin. According to Strelkov, this is Colonel Kvachkov.

[Boniface]

Kvachkov!
Old terrorist, magician

[gsev]

Quote: Boniface

Old terrorist, magician

I consider the flight of Chubais from Russia the most important achievement of the NWO. If Putin, after 2014, cleaned the pro-Western liberals from power, it is possible that the SVO would not need to be carried out. For now, the pro-Western forces have retained their power levers and will be ready to throw off the patriotic forces in the event of a growing crisis. As a result of the ongoing hostilities, Putin's supporters and Russian patriots are mostly killed. If Putin does not promote people like Kvachkov and Strelkov to power, he will be left without supporters. I will assume that the Americans are more afraid of the plot with the appearance in power of people from the people's militia, Kadyrov's special forces (the Chechen army, in my circle since February 2022 they have only been saying this) and the left opposition more than Russia's military successes or the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine. I would advise Kadyrov to open his own bank and start lending to industry in the North Caucasus. People from the HSE keep the North Caucasus away from normal loans and will never finance the development of an original competitive industry there.

[Burma6]

Maybe they should pay for cosmetic surgery for Kvachkov and that scoundrel Girkin and send them to Washington to apply their skills there)))

[gsev]

Quote from Burma6

Maybe they should pay for cosmetic surgery for Kvachkov and that scoundrel Girkin and send them to Washington to apply their skills there)))

The USA is a stable state. If someone shoots down half of Congress and slaps the president there, the US will only get stronger. I will assume that the US capitalists have more profit from their workers and engineers than Russian capitalists from theirs.

[ada]

Quote: gsev

... I would advise Kadyrov to open his own bank and start lending to industry in the North Caucasus. People from the HSE keep the North Caucasus away from normal loans and will never finance the development of an original competitive industry there.

Very interesting suggestion. Sorry to intrude, but I think an explanation is needed here. They are kept away for another reason. No "normal" loans to the region are required for the development of an original (I hope, not private "gasoline production"?) And a competitive one, like any other, and everyone knows this. The only goal in organizing credit relations of the "center" with a remote original region for its development is to enable individual participants to establish control over the main "commodity" in these relations - money and create conditions for their "effective distribution and redirection" with the formation of invisible surpluses , up to the very mass of valuable waste paper or digital zeros where they cannot be returned for the benefit of the state.
Here, a more legitimate question is why the government, together with the leadership of the region, does not directly develop its economic potential? Without the participation of state enterprises and organizations, there will be a "deaf place" and you won't find any ends. Neighbors are an example. And they have already played enough with the banking sector so that they had to level it with the ground in places to straighten their brains.

[poquello]

Quote: Boniface

Kvachkov!
Old terrorist, magician

our answer to Chamberlain, on the self-propelled grandfather of the president we will put up the self-propelled grandfather of the general

[Yuriy1000]

Less need to watch and listen to propagandists on TV, they will talk about Kvachkov there ...

[leks]

Well, what are you doing here, just whining and whining only in the opposite direction.
All you have are traitors, a whiner and liberals. But only here it's a no brainer that you're just . In a parallel reality, life always seems better, like the military-political leadership, most of them are the same as you . The majority of normal people with critical thinking have long understood what and how. But like you without gray matter in the head is unlikely to reach. Falling from the clouds is hard and painful.
Well, in principle, amuse the people with your "funny" comments, under the word "funny" another word from those prohibited in VO is veiled.
In December I will remind you about your "funny" comment, and maybe earlier.

[gansales]

Quote: leks

Well, what are you doing here, just whining and whining only in the opposite direction

I've been looking here for a long time hehe

Quote: leks

All you have are traitors, a whiner and liberals. But only here it's a no brainer that you're just a fool. In a parallel reality, life always seems better, like the military-political leadership, most of them are the same as you

Yes, like me!!! And imagine if EVERYTHING was whining in the General Staff!
And then GDP ha ha ha
That was ?

Quote: leks

The bulk of normal people with critical thinking have long understood what and how

And she ran to the borders of Russia 500th Paying huge money just to let them through the border hehe

Quote: leks

But like you without gray matter in the head is unlikely to reach.

And this is an insult to the liber .. I won’t complain

Quote: leks

Well, in principle, amuse the people with your "funny" comments, under the word "funny" another word from those prohibited in VO is veiled.

Well, somehow .. It's people like you who whine and scare the people with Amer's sanctions, etc. hehe

Quote: leks

In December I will remind you about your "funny" comment, and maybe earlier.

I’ll remind you of the Amer’s serf too .. What and how it happened and how it turned out
Yavolt?

[leks]

That the truth hurts your eyes, that you !?
You can complain to me about your complaint, I don't care. You cause only pity and laughter.
You are treated with condescension because you
The same stupid words, the same stupid slogans, the same set of words from thread to thread. You are not capable of more than to work for your VO rating.

[Foundling]

And why do you write in the text all the time hehe? Have you caught a cold?

[leks]

gansales (Z 333-Yes, well, you go to sleep)
25 February 2022 16: 33
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The Ministry of Defense announced the blocking of Kiev from the western direction
announced the blocking of Kiev from the western direction

I used to love to yell and wave my saber, like we’ll take Kiev in a week, etc.
It turned out I was a pessimist wassat..
Kiev was surrounded in less than two days, the main military facilities were destroyed by the group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the national battalions in the cauldron on the border of the LDNR .. And all this in two days!
PS I understand that the most difficult thing is the cleanup, but still the Brilliant operation is designed and non-standard. !!!
God bless our soldiers, they are destroying the neo-Nazi reptile for the truth and for the sake of our descendants. They suffered so much humiliation from these scum and their owners ..
Let me remind you in advance how you started to make people laugh
Well, they took Kyiv!? Where did the brilliant and non-standard operation go!?

[Ulysses]

The majority of normal people with critical thinking have long understood what and how.

Who is this? Those that staged a race to the nearest border?

[leks]

These are those who perfectly see and draw conclusions about how our military-political leadership is slowly surrendering everything that they have achieved in the hardest battles. These are those who see and draw conclusions about how mobilization is carried out. These are those who watch and listen to how they say on TV that "Azov" is not subject to exchange, and the mercenaries will be shot, and in the end they see a picture of how they change the most ideological ones whose hands are up to the elbows in blood and notice not 200 to 200. And they did not forget their fellow change Medvedchuk! And now ask yourself the question could it be otherwise if our military-political leadership from the very beginning of the NMD acted tough, consistently, without any concessions and gestures of goodwill!? Maybe there wouldn't have been so many runners. But even in this case, it was possible to decisively and wisely act by blocking the borders for the fugitives. But in this case, perhaps even the right thing was that the fleeing people did not run to the rallies in the end!

[Yuriy1000]

And what, the way it is, it's just that some especially stubborn people need to listen to our propagandists less, and some have stopped "turning on" their heads.

[gsev]

Quote from gansales

He is already being quoted on Radio Liberty

Radio Liberty will always quote opposition politicians. In addition, Svoboda needs to maintain the interest of listeners in itself. There, unlike Channel 1, they consider it stupid not to inform their listeners about the whole range of opinions (although with their own assessments, comments and abbreviations).

[gansales]

Quote: gsev

In addition, Svoboda needs to maintain the interest of listeners in itself. There, unlike Channel 1, they consider it stupid not to inform their listeners about the whole range of opinions (although with their own assessments, comments and abbreviations).

Yes, they whine there all the time And still everyone remembers Navalny hehe And the burry Stalin is constantly criticized
I just laugh at their tactics Stupid whiners anti-Soviet and Russophobes !!!!!

[gsev]

Quote from gansales

I just laugh at their tactics

This tactic proved effective in the Cold War. The Americans are playing hard. Svoboda does not strongly incite Russians to destroy the state. But my friends, after listening to Ukrainian networks, after a couple of days, they catch themselves thinking that there is a desire to fight against themselves. I just wanted to say that by quoting Strelkov Svoboda was just trying to increase her audience, which she successfully did. Channel One and RT Simonyan played along with Svoboda in a giveaway, losing part of the audience by hushing up Strelkov's forecasts.

[mitroha]

Quote: gsev

There, unlike Channel 1, they consider it stupid not to inform their listeners about the entire spectrum of opinions (although with their own assessments, comments and abbreviations).

On the radio, then Freedom ..... Don't be ridiculous. There has never been a full range of opinions. There was always an anti-Soviet, and then an anti-Russian course

[gsev]

Quote: Mitroha

There was always an anti-Soviet, and then an anti-Russian course

But there even anti-Semitism was used in the fight against the USSR. It seems that there was even an investigation by the US Congress condemning the abuse of rabid anti-Semitism in the programs of Freedom.

[Ulysses]

There, unlike Channel 1, they consider it stupid not to inform their listeners about the entire spectrum of opinions (although with their own assessments, comments and abbreviations).

There, unlike the first channel, they don’t do stupid things. Only one opinion, the only correct, Western ..

[Prokop_Pork]

Still it would be better not to quote him if the course of events follows his forecasts and assessments.

[Zug]

At least everything that Strelkov said about the special operation later began to come true one to one. Although he is a whiner, at least not.

[Alexander Salenko]

Even the horoscope sometimes guesses, as far as I remember, he whined and the question is not even that he whined, but his level. Yes, he is several times higher than mine, but in reality this is the level of a major, at best a lieutenant colonel. What forces did he command?
I’m not saying that it’s unsuccessful, as they call his departure from Slavyansk a flight, complete nonsense, but I looked at him at one time, why I’m not watching now, and those with whom he was rooting, for example, a couple of articles by Nesmeyan about the water problem of Crimea, complete game. I showed our geographers to neigh.
Strelkov always rushes with negativity, with which he guessed, so except with mobilization, is he the only one like that?

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote from gansales

Offended he

Well, on the one hand, it's like...
but on the other hand ... at the very beginning of the SVO, one of the few who immediately (!) told the bitter truth.
At the initial stage of the SVO, there are too many tactical mistakes (!). The transfer of paratroopers and a large amount of equipment near Kyiv and Chernihiv, to the swampy area, with frankly weak logistics, will lead to the need to abandon equipment there and hastily withdraw troops from there, towards the Kharkov region (!) .... It came true ... ?!
therefore, - who is there -

Quote from gansales

... not our dude but whiner traitor

I don't quite understand....
Maybe the word "realist", it suits more (or word- "practitioner" )...?!!
And about underestimation of the enemy, which is assisted with might and main by NATO consultants, supplying real-time intelligence from satellites and the Global Hawk UAV (!), he also spoke back in the spring .... As well as about the "pale appearance", the operational management of the front by the "ceremonial generals of the Russian Federation", and the level of their tactical competence ...
How did you plan NWO ...?!!! And what is the role of the HQS in the fight against intelligencesatellites and UAVs of NATO opponents, since you are at war with themm) is not entirely clear ...?!!!
They ... ... ( (these forces),- really, - MILITARY SPACE, or simply - substitution of concepts, and replacement of the old "label" ...air force... ?!

[YOUR]

Kvachkov is a saboteur, I don’t think he will make a good combined arms commander.
But what is true is true, although our generals are hung with awards, they are not pulling something. This is not Syria

[gsev]

Quote: YOUR

Kvachkov is a saboteur, I don’t think he will make a good combined arms commander.

Stalin was a terrorist fighter. He managed to interrupt the uninterrupted chain of Wehrmacht victories. By the way, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are using special forces tactics near Liman and Kupyansk. They must be confronted by a leader who knows both the tactics of special forces and the tactics of guerrilla warfare. In the presence of such a military leader as Kvachkov in the allied forces, it is possible (although very unlikely) that North Korean or Chinese special forces will appear.

[alexey sidykin]

What did Stalin achieve? The collapse near Kyiv and Kharkov is the result of his direct intervention in the affairs of the front.

[gsev]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

What did Stalin achieve? The collapse near Kyiv and Kharkov are the results of it

I had in mind the defense of Tsaritsyn under the leadership of Stalin. He defended the city contrary to the opinion of experienced generals who considered the defense hopeless. By the way, the General Staff and Stalin, having studied the experience of the Franco-Prussian war, relied on the mass formation of new formations with the beginning of the Second World War. It is believed that the lack of a trained reserve in France allowed Moltke to win by blitzkrieg in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.

[alexey sidykin]

He had good staff officers with great combat experience, this is, firstly, and secondly, the number of red units defending Tsaritsin was not 10 times less than the whites, moreover, a blow to the rear of the advancing White Cossacks of the Iron Division played a significant role.

[gsev]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

the number of red units defending Tsaritsin was not 10 times less than white

Stalin, unlike Putin, did not scatter personnel. Redneck quarreled with Sorokin and went under the wing of Stalin. Trotsky, for example, refused to accept Kochubey, who fell into a similar position, and this commander was executed when he refused to go over to the side of the White Cossacks. Surely, Budyonny and Voroshilov and Artem were more ambitious and headstrong and less obedient chieftains than Kvachkov or Strelkov, but they, in a single team, defeated Krasnov’s units consisting of the Cossacks-military class, whose members underwent military training from the age of 7.

[alexey sidykin]

Listen, you seem to be not an adherent of the Cossacks to repeat these stories ... what 7 years. Re-read Quiet Don Sholokhov, it is well written about this training ... You say Stalin did not scatter shots, well, well ... though I don’t know what Budyonny and Artyom have to do with it. Voroshilov, of course, he was there, although he never really shone with military talents. And yes, as for the fighting qualities of this very Cossacks, the white generals that commanded them were not at all enthusiastic about this very quality. As soon as the whites brought up the regular army with heavy equipment, Tsaritsin immediately fell quickly.

[gsev]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

Re-read the Quiet Don Sholokhov there it is well written about this training ...

I read the book by adjutant Krasnov and Princeton University professor Chebotarev "The Truth about Russia". In his opinion, as much as the regular European army is higher in combat qualities compared to the militia, the Cossacks were more combat-ready compared to any European army. In the 20th century, much began to decide the quality of weapons, especially aviation ones. Hmyers with satellite guidance can only be fought with nuclear weapons. I respect the estate of the Cossacks, I simply condemn those of their representatives who served Wilhelm, the Entente interventionists and Hitler.

[alexey sidykin]

And I read both Krasnov and Shkuro ... and I am inclined to trust them because it is consistent with both Sholokhov and sources on the history of the Cossacks. This refers to the real history of the Cossacks and not crafts about super-Cossacks. About wundnuerwafly Hymers leave for ukrov. The weapon is serious, but it is not a child prodigy.

[gsev]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

And I read both Krasnov and Shkuro

Shkuro made no impression on me. He has a vague description of his fate. The author either does not understand the reasons for the defeat of the White movement, or does not want to write about these reasons, or about his own view of the place of the White Guard after the victory of Soviet power. Chebotarev figuratively showed himself as a representative of the White Cossacks and the fact that the White Guard in 1956 can be successful and believe in the victory of the white idea and in a worthy place for himself even in the USSR ..

[alexey sidykin]

Well, who was looking for what ... I, for example, was not looking for "about the place of the White Guard or about reasoning about what's what ..." In general, it's strange to look for answers in such diaries. I was interested in the civil one herself.

[gsev]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

I was interested in the civil one herself.

Chebotarev wrote about the Civil War and the First World War more vividly than all the authors I have read. Nowhere else have I seen details of the flight of Kerensky in disguise from Tsarskoye Selo. Kerensky himself only assured Soviet intelligence officers that he did not disguise himself as a nurse.

[alexey sidykin]

A bright and colorful description of events should immediately alert because 90% will be a lot of fiction. And about Kerensky, he did not run anywhere, but calmly left in a car. The drier and more boring memoirs and diaries are written, the more reliable they are.

[gsev]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

And about Kerensky, he did not run anywhere, but calmly left in a car.

There was an agreement to arrange an open trial of Kerensky, Lenin and Trotsky. Trotsky was arrested by Krasnov's Cossacks. Krasnov's headquarters where Trotsky and Kerensky were located was surrounded by the Red Guard. Both the Cossacks and the Red Guards unanimously burned with the desire to hear at the confrontation of Kerensky, Lenin and Trotsky all the ins and outs about the October events of 1917 and the plobbed carriage. Krasnov was partly released in October, because he declared to those being interrogated that he was faithful to the oath to the provisional government and Kerensky, who deceived him and fled when the Red Guards began to gain the upper hand. Krasnov gave his word of honor not to rebel against the Soviets and was set free with all his Cossacks. If Kerensky had not fled, he would have been taken for interrogation along with Krasnov to Smolny, but he fled for interrogation. After his flight, Kerensky lost all authority and was despised by all the political forces in Russia.

[alexey sidykin]

Oh god... don't read bedtime stories.

[alexey sidykin]

Oh, how people flatten from the truth, minus with might and main.

[Alexander Salenko]

Minus for stupidity, which I, in the sense of not trying to minus. It’s just that your opinion is philistine and faded already like twenty years ago, the only thing I can say is that there are still a lot of people like you.
For me, it’s not the Kyiv boiler and other boilers that are surprising, but how the Red Army survived in principle, it’s just that this issue needs to be studied. Well, for example, the Germans didn’t notice the main battle at all, well, except perhaps in the Donbass, part of it, here in VO there is a good article on the destruction of its industry. And the coal had to be carried from Silesia, are you trying to figure out the transport arm?

[alexey sidykin]

What is philistine and outdated, or do you have information that Stalin did not personally control these operations? It is clear that there is not only this played a role. But if not for Stalin's intervention, things would not have been so catastrophic.

[Alexander Salenko]

Uh-huh, no one could object to him? Stalin was just in this sense a democratic person and listened to any opinions, you just have wrong ideas about this person, imposed by Khrushchev's propaganda. I'm not talking about good or bad but about your perception.
If you read German memoirs, then Hitler is also to blame for his interference.

[alexey sidykin]

Just don't talk about the bald man... I can't stand him.

[Alexander Salenko]

Do you see this about the story told by Khrushchev that Kyiv had to be left? Well, look at the map of the Kyiv boiler and be surprised.

[alexey sidykin]

Kyiv had to be left and this is not a bike. If we had departed earlier, such a catastrophe would not have happened.

[Alexander Salenko]

I have already said that you did not make friends with history, Kyiv did not play any role in that situation from the word at all, and at the beginning of the events the 1st Panzer Group, or even then the Wehrmacht army was at all in the Nikolaev area.

[alexey sidykin]

I know that it was ... but it was Stalin who removed Zhukov, who pointed out the possibility of the Kyiv boiler and replaced him with Shaposhnikov with his opposite opinion, and removed Budyonny, replacing it with Timoshenko ... they say Budyonny spreads panic. Tell me it wasn't?

[Alexander Salenko]

Have you seen documents about it? Everything was a little wrong there, they were published, they were somehow provided to me on the network, it was just supposed to defend along the Dnieper and if you don’t know, then read Guderian, he had already rushed to Moscow, and he was deployed, about which he didn’t he only freaked out in his memoirs, but there are documents about this, and Kleist suddenly moved out of Nikolaev and crossed the Dnieper, intelligence overlooked, all the disputes about Kyiv had nothing to do with it at all.
Moreover, Guderian could not help deploying having such a threat on the flank that, by the way, the fast Heinz did not understand, or did not want to understand, how he was very grouchy as a subordinate. It would still be impossible to escape from two tank armies on foot. On the contrary, even ineffective counterattacks forced the Germans to react, they lost time and scattered their forces.
To blame Stalin in the Kiev cauldron is somehow not scientific.

[alexey sidykin]

And who talks about running away or stopping ... but it's one thing when there is room for maneuver and retreating to snap, and another thing when there is nowhere to retreat because they are pressed to the shore. German tanks are not with an infinite resource.

[Alexander Salenko]

once again, look at the map where the Kyiv cauldron was created, fir-trees, is it really so difficult? Clinging to the shore is your fantasy, which has nothing to do with reality.
Yes, and you probably haven’t heard about the complexity of the battles in the city, but what about Stalingrad, for example?

[alexey sidykin]

How did it end for the Germans? These same battles in Stalingrad?

[Alexander Salenko]

You don’t seem to understand, but how is Kyiv fundamentally different from Stalingrad?

[alexey sidykin]

How? And the fact that the German only went to the Volga and did not cross it ...

[Alexander Salenko]

Well, why not stop the German on the Dnieper? You don't seem to understand what an afterthought is. Our victory at Stalingrad was not at all obvious, even during the encirclement of the enemy. We underestimated the enemy grouping in general.

[alexey sidykin]

On the Dnieper? For starters, you look at the map where and how it happened.

[alexey sidykin]

Would you like a brief summary? On September 7, Budyonny demands to withdraw troops from the Dnieper and Kyiv, he is displaced and Timoshenko is appointed, who assures the Stavka that there is nothing to worry about, this is the 13th, he is supported by Kirponos. 15 Sept. the Germans close the ring, 16 Timoshenko gives a verbal order to withdraw the troops, 18 Sept. The Headquarters finally gives a written order to retreat and leave Kyiv ... but it's too late. For your information, the Dnieper has two banks, not only the right one, but also the left one, the eastern one, to which our units were pressed in the Dnieper bend.

[Alexander Salenko]

You tired me, Kyiv has a damn thing to do with it, you couldn’t look at the map?

[alexey sidykin]

I just looked, unlike you.

[Alexander Salenko]

Don't tell nonsense, Stalin was never a militant or a terrorist. Where you think it is interesting to read, but any historical statement relies on a source. so far no one has been able to do this with your ridiculous statement

[gsev]

Quote: Alexander Salenko

Don't tell nonsense, Stalin was never a militant or a terrorist.

I was embarrassed to call Stalin, who carried out expropriations, a gangster and a racketeer. All the same, he robbed for the sake of the victory of communism, and not himself personally. But this is not the most important thing. And the fact that Stalin did not have experience in commanding large units and did not have a military education, but he beat white officers near Tsaritsyn.

[Alexander Salenko]

He basically didn't do it. Kamo, yes, did, but Stalin did not. and there is not a single proof of this, so do not spread gossip.

[gsev]

Quote: Alexander Salenko

He basically didn't do it. Kamo, yes, did, but Stalin did not.

So Pilsudski was also a successful organizer of the exes and could compete with both Stalin and Kamo. And even Chernov, who was forced out of the premises of the constituent assembly by the scruff of the neck like a weary guard, gave orders to carry out the exes. A couple of Moscow region businessmen who did not die at the hands of racketeers assured those around them that they either killed the roof that had run over them or forced them to run away through the winter forest at gunpoint, and therefore remained alive. And you refuse this to Kobe, who broke both the tsar's gendarmerie and the organization of the Socialist-Revolutionaries who in the summer of 1917 expropriated all the landowners and their guards from the abreks.

[Alexander Salenko]

And what about Pilsudski? Stalin did not deal with exes from the word at all, this is anti-historical game, and here the question is not in relation to him, but in historical truth.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

Kvachkov is a saboteur, I don’t think he will make a good combined arms commander.

What can you say about Teplinsky?
The real fighting general. They spoke well of him from the time of "ihtamnet".

[gsev]

Quote: Mikhail Sidorov

What can you say about Teplinsky?

I'm not a professional in military affairs, just nobody. I can only judge what is openly discussed on the Internet.

[tatarin1972]

The top of Colonel Kvachkov 15 ObrSpN. Yes, I graduated from the VOK, but the military intelligence department, the Frunze Academy, also in this specialty.

[leks]

Quote: tatarin1972

The top of Colonel Kvachkov 15 ObrSpN. Yes, I graduated from the VOK, but the military intelligence department, the Frunze Academy, also in this specialty.

Even on this basis, why not appoint him at least the commander of a special forces regiment. The same Strelkov can also be placed as a commander of a volunteer corps.
After all, these people have real combat experience.

[tatarin1972]

Experience is different experience. This is no longer counter-guerrilla action. Now our troops are conducting a combined arms battle with all its components, aviation, large-caliber artillery, tanks. I do not want to underestimate the experience of V. Kvachko, he is an experienced, competent officer, they study in schools and academies according to his operations. I’m just afraid that he will again get into politics, and here you need to do one thing.

[leks]

Quote: tatarin1972

Experience is different experience. This is no longer counter-guerrilla action. Now our troops are conducting a combined arms battle with all its components, aviation, large-caliber artillery, tanks. I do not want to underestimate the experience of V. Kvachko, he is an experienced, competent officer, they study in schools and academies according to his operations. I’m just afraid that he will again get into politics, and here you need to do one thing.

Well, the SVO is most likely to be reprofiled into a counter-terrorist one. Whoever said that the special regiment would run after the partisans, there would be other tasks for them to love through the roof.

[tatarin1972]

No matter how they call her names, one hell, the scale of comparison is different. From how it is called, the type of battle does not change

[Deon59]

Well, Gerasimov seems to have a lot of service experience, nothing in return. Military operations at the level of a platoon and a company and everything is ceiling. He is not capable of anything else, but he seems to have graduated from the academy.

[gsev]

Quote from Deon59

.Military operations at the level of platoon and company and all the ceiling.

According to rumors, Gerasimov is able to make the right decisions and predict the actions of the enemy, even if the FSB presented him with misinformation concocted in the presidential administration of Chechnya instead of intelligence. Perhaps the CIA prepared misinformation about Ukraine in front of the SVO in such a way that not only Putin and the FSB believed in it, but also Gerasimov.

[alexey sidykin]

This is what experience Girkin has ... the surrender of Slavyansk and the attempt to surrender Donetsk, fortunately he was not allowed to do this. All his achievements are retreats.

[leks]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

This is what experience Girkin has ... the surrender of Slavyansk and the attempt to surrender Donetsk, fortunately he was not allowed to do this. All his achievements are retreats.

This is such an experience for Girkin that he took this Slavyansk and holding it as long as he could with a militia who had no experience, as well as normal weapons. With what and by whom he was supposed to defend Slavyansk when the army units of ukrov approached with his bare ass or something. He asked for help there, but they sent him. About Donetsk, it’s all nonsense! Maybe you can tell us what the shooter was supposed to do with what he had. And mind you, the elite guards units of the Russian Federation with good weapons run faster than Strelkov, who did not leave the enemy personnel and equipment intact.

[alexey sidykin]

In general, he didn’t take it ... he just entered there, and without any fights, because there wasn’t a single dill at that time.

[leks]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

In general, he didn’t take it ... he just entered there, and without any fights, because there wasn’t a single dill at that time.

I agree with this that he just went there without fighting, there was no one there except the cops. And also that it all started from those places and from him.
But I asked the question above, with what and how he was supposed to defend Slavyansk against the linear parts of the dill. And in the future, he quite competently led the militias and volunteers.
Although what I argue, we still do not know the whole truth. It might be yours, it might be different.
But what can not be taken away is that the shooters turned out to be right in many respects and gives good advice.

[alexey sidykin]

Well, for example, he claimed that our Popasnaya would not be taken ...

[alexey sidykin]

And yes, Donetsk was defended against the wishes of Girkin ... and, but it was not a big deal to arrange independent activities, no one sent him to the Donbass. To demand something later.

[Beringovsky]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

This is what experience Girkin has ...

One that gives him the ability to predict the situation at the front long before it happens. And it's a talent, after all. And if there is no talent, like our General Staff, then you can’t fix it with crusts about graduating from the academy.

[alexey sidykin]

Well, well ... he sat down more than once in a puddle with his forecasts.

[Beringovsky]

Yes, can you give examples?
Strelkov has been talking about the need for mobilization since the end of March. It was the delay in mobilization that led to the difficult situation today. Putin said - it is not needed, Stelkov - it is needed, so who turned out to be right? Conclusion, Strelkov is much more far-sighted than Putin. So okay?
Strelkov should be in the Supreme Commanders, and let Putin go about his business, the president has a lot of them, talk to Macron there, make a speech at the rally. Everyone should do what they do best, right?

[Deon59]

We have enough strength even without mobilization, but the leadership, sorry, is blowing the wrong tune.

[Beringovsky]

And where are these forces located? They were needed near Kharkov, Liman, now in the south. And with the leadership everything is already clear, it’s hard to say something without strong words
Although yes, but where is the Russian Guard?

[alexey sidykin]

What, about the fact that he claimed that Popasnaya was not to be taken already safely forgotten?

[Alexander Salenko]

And he also has experience in the FSB and the problem asks, but who prevents him from working in the republics? Khodakovsky, a much less successful commander, for example, spoke about this, as they say, on the air.

[leks]

Quote: Alexander Salenko

And he also has experience in the FSB and the problem asks, but who prevents him from working in the republics? Khodakovsky, a much less successful commander, for example, spoke about this, as they say, on the air.

To whom "him? Strelkov is not allowed there, he tried somehow it did not work out.
If about Kvachkov you suggest that the privates go there. He has a different level and it is unlikely that they will let him in there.

[Alexander Salenko]

Khodakovsky spoke about this, what does Kvachkov have to do with it. Strelkov arrived without his own documents, he even shaved off his mustache.

[alexey sidykin]

Quote: leks

To whom "him? Strelkov is not allowed there, he tried somehow it did not work out.

It’s strange, but Girkin himself claimed the opposite, that no one detained him and that he wasn’t going anywhere, but simply arrived at the border

[gsev]

Quote: tatarin1972

The top of Colonel Kvachkov 15 ObrSpN.

Top I.V. Stalin by 1918 - a successful expropriation. However, immediately after that, he stopped the offensive of the professional generals of the Imperial Army with the experience of World War 1 near Tsaritsyn, defeated Yudenich near Petrograd and fought on equal terms against the Polish Army Pilsudski and his advisers from the General Staff of France.

[tatarin1972]

Right?! And not Lieutenant General Snesarev A.E.?

[gsev]

Quote: tatarin1972

Right?! And not Lieutenant General Snesarev A.E.?

Snesarev was recalled to the center. Nominally, he commanded Stalin from Moscow or Serpukhov. Until Stalin left Tsaritsyn for a long time, the Krasnovs and Mamontovs were beaten there. Everyone noted Stalin's openness and his ability to promote smart ideas and smart active people in accordance with their abilities. Golovanov was subjected to repression before the war, barely managed to escape from the NKVD to aviation, at the beginning of his memoirs he writes that he was apprehensive about Stalin. However, the joint leadership brought them closer, and Golovanov even went so far as to delay his memoirs in order to preserve his positive assessment of Stalin in them.

[Aviator_]

According to Strelkov, this is Colonel Kvachkov.

Is Kvachkov conceived as a commander of combined arms formations? Well, Strelkov gives advice. Maybe let him advise the Sumerians something?

[lwxx]

whom Kadyrov recommends to replace Reneral Lapin.

Already got this Kadyrov. It was they who killed people like Budanov. And these people are now, oh, how useful.

[gsev]

Quote: lwxx

It was they who killed people like Budanov.

Budanov raped and killed an unfortunate Chechen girl. I think if it was your daughter, you would not condemn the lynching of the rapist.

[Yuriy1000]

All that you know, stood next to a candle?

[laws70]

Donetsk MP Vladislav Berdichevsky named the most vulnerable areas in the Donbass.

According to the interlocutor, the greatest danger now hangs over the completely liberated territory of the LPR. “Lysichansk and Severodonetsk may be under attack. We are looking forward to reinforcements from the mobilized. And again, the question of the need for systematic strikes against enemy power plants and communication routes is very acute.

[gsev]

Quote from: laws70

According to the interlocutor, the greatest danger now hangs over the completely liberated territory of the LPR.

Ukraine's primary task is to deprive Crimea of ​​water. 10% of geranium departures should be at large substations. This is the weakest link in the Ukrainian economy. Moreover, the blows should be repeated and applied to the working repair teams. Repairmen should not get enough sleep and should be afraid of dying during the repair of transformers.

[Kirill Savin]

You are moral, and those who plus you are the same. Donetsk has been without water since February and often remains without electricity. Brigades of repairmen, at the risk of dying, are engaged in repairs under shelling, so that the city would somehow live. Do you propose to kill the same people from the other side? It would be my will, such heroes as you, to the wall from both sides.
The war would have ended long ago.

[gsev]

Quote: Kirill Savin

Do you propose to kill the same people from the other side?

Yes! Against the enemy, you must use his own tactics. My uncle carved out the barracks with the Finns, without killing or stealing before. I talked with representatives of the Finnish nation. An intelligent person commented on this case as follows: "Yes, we Finns of Russians in the wars were cut out without exception." I think my uncle's contribution to good neighborly relations between the USSR and Finland is higher than the contribution of 90% of diplomatic workers in the Finnish sector. I talked with Ukrainians whose families consisted of 2/3 SBU officers, who knew the prices for participation in the Kiev Maidan. Their opinion in 2014 is that Ukraine is able to withstand three years of war and put down 300 of its fighters. Putin extended the term over 000 years, but his troops could not destroy even half of Ukraine's acceptable losses. The unacceptable ones are apparently treated as 3 to 10. Without nuclear weapons, the Ukrainian Nazis are practically very difficult to neutralize. It is good that Kadyrov began to understand this.

[Kirill Savin]

Are you a Nazi? Who gave you the right to kill civilians?

[gsev]

Quote: Kirill Savin

Are you a Nazi? Who gave you the right to kill civilians?

In fact, there is a question about the existence of an independent Russia. At one time, Catherine destroyed the original Crimean Tatar civilization and left Turkey and Italy without Slavic slaves. If Russia returns to the position it was in under Yeltsin, then more Russians than Ukrainians will die from 50 megaton charges. Walesa honestly voiced his desire to destroy 2/3 of the Russians. This is more than the entire male population of Russia. No one in Europe considers him and Zelensky a Nazi. But Zelensky is cooler than Hitler. He managed to ban education in Russian. Hitler kept schools in Russian and had staffs of translators in the occupied territory, forcing the captured peoples to learn German, unlike dill, only with gingerbread and not with whips.

[ycuce234-san]

There are mobile transformer substations and temporary power lines and connections in networks. Trances are not really tied to a place.

[gsev]

Quote: ycuce234-san

Trances are not really tied to a place.

1 kW transformer is already 2 kg of weight. And its power is hardly enough for a washing machine. Probably not every bridge can withstand a 30 kW transformer. It is useful to shoot at powerful transformers. 000 kVA. It is difficult to replace such a spare even with a battery of mobile units.

[ycuce234-san]

There are transformer barges, for example, barges with transstations installed on them. But such high capacities are not needed there - it is enough to power only a piece of iron for the delivery of diesel and the most important cargoes and other little things, the industry does not work and the requirements for trances fall significantly. The well-known Syrian tunnels were dug with compact mining equipment with electric motors in the besieged city and there was enough energy.

[gsev]

Quote: ycuce234-san

The well-known Syrian tunnels were dug with compact mining equipment with electric motors in the besieged city and there was enough energy.

Our enemy is the Ukrainian oligarchs. They will not get worse if at least a million Ukrainian soldiers die. But without electricity, life in the city is impossible. It's difficult in the countryside. You can end the war in Ukraine by inflicting unacceptable damage on the enemy. The easiest way to do this is to destroy the power supply. Ukraine will have to protect transformers. Accordingly, air defense will be pulled to the rear. A five-minute power outage at the plant in Busaevo does not affect productivity. And if the power is turned off for 3 hours, the machines cool down and it will take 10 hours to start them in normal mode. If this happens 3 times a week, then a couple of adjusters will be required in the staff, which are not in this area. Consider half of the industry destroyed in the area. And for this, the arrival of 3 geraniums is enough. The daily revenue of the plant is several million. Here is the price of impact on a 200kVA-630kVA transformer.

[Kronos]

It's brilliant, to leave the mobilized so that they die there.

[poquello]

Quote: dmi.pris

Why is it silent about Zolotaya Balka? Since we are at war, so lay it out, including what we cannot boast of

and two bushes, two more bushes on the left!

[dmi.pris1]

The third bush was still under Liman. And? Will we continue to ignore the problem?

[poquello]

Quote: dmi.pris

The third bush was still under Liman. And? Will we continue to ignore the problem?

we will keep the blow, and not breed panic

[shm_kv]

Yes, they will say later, how. I expect that, like, "The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation moved away from Zolotaya Balka, Shevchenkovka, Aleksandrovka in order to regroup.

[Silver99]

They left the Golden Beam at night, although someone said near Kharkoy it is difficult to track the enemy there is rough terrain, but near Kherson what prevents biotlonists?

[alexey sidykin]

And you are so writhing from our successes, or about the failures of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

[dmi.pris1]

I am crippled by the powerlessness of the General Staff to organize defense. If we have good luck, we will rejoice. Now there is nothing

[gsev]

Quote: dmi.pris

I am crippled by the powerlessness of the General Staff to organize defense.

And how can you organize a defense against an enemy who has an advantage in infantry every 8 times when you simply don’t have infantry to saturate the first echelon. It is also not possible to advance in conditions when your movement is controlled by Musk's satellites. After all, Rogozin painted something under Khokhloma and shot films in space instead of launching reconnaissance satellites.

[parusnik]

Judging by the reports, the enemy is suffering huge losses, we are leaving the cities.

[AAK]

And why should they feel sorry for their bastards, write 250 "two hundredths" for each of the offensive sectors, the electorate is grabbing ...

[parusnik]

Why feel sorry for their bad guys, write 250 "two hundredths" ..... the electorate is grabbing ...

Oh well

[Eug]

They write at the rate of 7-12 people per piece of equipment. Campaign, "mid-ceiling".

[Gankutsu_]

Suffering huge losses, the enemy continues to cowardly advance

[olegactor]

Suffering huge losses, the enemy continues to cowardly advance

and where it is interesting in the Kherson region, he is advancing .... drive through the steppe and lose a bunch of equipment. go back .... cool offensive ... purely Sumerian

[Eug]

They competently keep the defense in tension and do not allow troops to be allocated for the transfer to the Krasnolimansk direction, where, as I understand it, the ZSU are developing success. A distracting, as for me, direction with potential development - if they find weakness.

[olegactor]

they have been advancing like this for a month and a half .... and leaving only corpses and scrap metal

[Kronos]

On the state of affairs on the Kherson front:

In the Berislav direction, the enemy continues to advance, wedging into our position. The advanced enemy units penetrated to the outskirts of the village of Belyaevka. The village of Shevchenkovka is under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The depth of the enemy breakthrough exceeded 7 kilometers from the starting position.

[chetvertak]

We have no time to count losses! NATO satellite and radar reconnaissance works on them. Deliveries are coming from the EU. We need a result for the population of Ukraine. They show it. And from the victims then they will make heroes

[Alexander Salenko]

The fact that he suffered huge losses theoretically, I can agree. But our Defense Ministry also gives out information, well, remember the Chaplino station, the Iskander strike, 200 corpses and 11 units of precisely destroyed and not lined equipment and pictures were laid out. I understand that there is a powerful warhead, but how it is possible to kill 200 people on a train is absolutely not clear to me.
There was a case a few years ago when gasters were burned alive, only the driver managed to jump out there. and then, because there was a door on his side, then 50 people died, they lit the kerosene gas.
Any analogy is false, there was no explosion there, but being somewhat familiar with buses, I imagine how a fire could instantly spread. Here the rocket zahnul into the car, if they definitely kill less in a knock. They pushed 80 people into the car, part of the fuel worked out together with the warhead, but the rest of the cars are isolated, they will get it, but not lethally.

Even when Comrade Nedelin died, he was identified there by melted buttons, a terrible explosion of a space rocket, and then he covered, I can forget. about a hundred and a quarter people. One stepped aside to smoke for an obstacle and remained alive.

[Vitaly161]

and the Airborne Forces can very well, the winged infantry is not in vain considered the elite, which in fact was proved

[dmi.pris1]

Nobody argues about the capabilities of our airborne fighters. The thing is different - they cannot block all the jambs at the front

[1976AG]

Quote: Vitaliy161

and the Airborne Forces can very well, the winged infantry is not in vain considered the elite, which in fact was proved

What can? What proved that they can fly? Without serious technical support and they are not omnipotent. Are the other parts bad? No.

[tralflot1832]

What draws them so much to Davydov Ford, where is the Sumerian gold buried?

[dmi.pris1]

They are trying to strike at Novaya Kakhovka from Davydov Brod. Now a weak link has appeared along the Dnieper from the north to Breslav and the same Kakhovka. We must hold the front there at any cost, otherwise we will lose everything that was liberated in Kherson in February. Crimea will again lose water

[chetvertak]

You need to understand that everything will break through our defenses from everywhere until they break through somewhere. With two battalions but in each place, until the front is completely cracked in all places, Like in horror films, when insects or mammals from all sides try to roam and attack sacrifice. It is called wedges to go. Tactics of German generals 2 WWII

[gsev]

Quote: tralflot1832

What draws them so to Davydov Ford,

The Ukrainians delivered the main blow in the direction of Zolotaya Balka and Belyaevka. According to Strelkov, Davydov Brod had a distracting blow.

[poquello]

Quote: gsev

Quote: tralflot1832

What draws them so to Davydov Ford,

The Ukrainians delivered the main blow in the direction of Zolotaya Balka and Belyaevka. According to Strelkov, Davydov Brod had a distracting blow.

once again speaks for the competence of Girkin, or rather for its absence, it was necessary to put a bunch of people on Brod in order to take a village in a conditionally gray zone

[gsev]

Quote: poquello

once again speaks for the competence of Girkin, or rather for its absence

So does Strelkov have an understanding of the situation or not? Konashenkov's summary directly states that he did not say the most important thing or simply does not know or does not understand. And Strelkov, in 3 lines, reported the essence and demonstrated that in Russia there are people who are able to calmly explain to the people what is happening.

[poquello]

Quote: gsev

Strelkov in 3 lines reported the essence and demonstrated that in Russia there are people who are able to calmly explain to the people what is happening.

Is this an evening of humor or a celebration of cissies? the dill grabbed the lyuley on Brod and, so as not to be offended, rushed to the village, which is difficult to defend, because the defense of such an object is to slip away in time until they are cut off

[alexey sidykin]

What is the point ... he quoted ukrosmi where they boasted of an imaginary victory. This "overcome" by the dill themselves was criticized as fake.

[Aviator_]

Strelkov in 3 lines reported the essence and demonstrated that in Russia there are people who are able to calmly explain to the people what is happening.

He explained something, but what does it have to do with Kvachkov, who failed to liquidate Chubais and deservedly served time for this?

[gsev]

Quote: Aviator_

Kvachkov, who failed to liquidate Chubais

The elimination of politicians of this level is a matter of chance and rarely happens the first time. How many unsuccessful assassination attempts were there in Cuba? It was blown up by a lady whom the Cuban family completely trusted. The widow Kube wrote letters after her husband's death, E. Mazanik, continuing to doubt that she really planted the bomb that killed her husband. Kuznetsov was never able to eliminate Koch. Kvachkov nevertheless shot at Chubais, hated by all the people, and his name will remain in history.

[alexey sidykin]

Especially the fact that dill has long been in this D. Brod. Because of what there was a cry in the dill.

[poquello]

Quote: Alexey Sedykin

Especially the fact that dill has long been in this D. Brod. Because of what there was a cry in the dill.

the direction of the blow, and where they are there specifically is not so important

[tralflot1832]

It is easy to discuss from the outside, I have been observing this appendicitis near the Dnieper for 3 months.

[Alexander Salenko]

And it makes fun of me, there are no questions, they are successful in the Kharkov direction, but distracting actions are not performed like that, I scolded my friend like that, who carries him away with a lot of reading matter. But apparently there are supporters of the Strelkov sect. They instructed you minuses and they will instruct me.

[chetvertak]

We now have a lot of distracting maneuvers, only we don’t have them now and won’t have them. There is no difference between distracting or not distracting! It is necessary to strengthen absolutely the entire defense in depth with various parts of the equipment. .And when will we stamp it? 5 years to the fullest saved and left the infantry with nothing

[Alexander Salenko]

Problems with technology? How interesting? We have problems with small numbers. and up to a certain point, artillery was able to compensate for this, and yes, the production of this equipment, although not the fastest, is there in Ukraine?

[chetvertak]

The only river, like an obstacle! And then the fields to Kherson

[Alexander Salenko]

The ukrov had an open field on the defensive by the beginning of the NWO at Perekop, what, as they say in Ukrainian, were blunders? They knew everything perfectly, there was no effect of great surprise, and there was more than a lot of time to build defenses.

[Carlos Hall]

I am with the great Russian army to the end, despite all the betrayals and the entire fifth column, it will win again. The Russian army is an unshakable legend.

[Sergey Drozdov]

We are all with the Russian-Soviet army of Suvorov-Stalin, but why draw such figures?

[Asad]

In one day, 53 tanks and more than a hundred infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, plus 90 special equipment, were destroyed. In Ukraine, does technology reproduce by budding?

[GRIGORIY76]

In Ukraine, does technology reproduce by budding?

No, east wind, 1 TA supplies.
Ukram 72 and 90. Republics 62s.

[Bayun]

why not transfer the experienced ones from the NM to the TA equipment, and put the unfortunate guardsmen on the defensive on the T62 ... Now there are no "political" problems - everyone is equally ours. It is also logical that those who went through 8 years of this particular war should be in command, and did not drive the barmaleys through the deserts.

[laws70]

In Ukraine, does technology reproduce by budding?

Technique in Ukraine is multiplied by drawing in the offices on the Frunzenskaya embankment.

[chetvertak]

It's good that so many have been destroyed! But when they go on a march, there is nothing surprising. Losses. And what happens as a result? According to history, we consider it ours! Because Bolshevism was the Russian lands to the newly-minted Ukrainians, and then the Bolsheviks began to turn the population into Ukrainians. deceived our own government for 5 years

[pharmacist]

All this is good, but when will we attack?

[1976AG]

Quote from Pharmacist

All this is good, but when will we attack?

When reinforcements come up, otherwise who will attack, if there are not enough forces for defense.

[opposite28]

All this is good, but when will we attack?

On a rake?

[saigon]

Coming when? That's when the battalion will be at least 500-600 meters along the front, when there will be second echelons, when instead of the BTG they will break through the front of the TD and MSD precisely divisions or corps of 50-60 thousand people according to one plan.
That's when you can talk about the offensive, everything else is from the evil one, alas.
And a loud reading of the BUS aloud for generalof, with the surrender of the EG according to what was read.

[Gankutsu_]

All enemy attacks were repulsed, thousands and millions were destroyed.
That is why we are withdrawing troops.

[belost79]

31 tanks? And why so little, the Ministry of Defense got lazy. Write 200. There are 20 aircraft. Thousands of infantry must be recorded as dead, why count them.

[jetfors_84]

After Izyum and Balakleya, I noticed that the losses voiced by the General Staff went from dozens to hundreds. I think that after the estuary they will switch to thousands.

[single-n]

And it was we who "grind" them for six months. When they called the number of losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for 7 months 100K and everything together with the wounded, it became absolutely clear that all this grinding was nonsense and attempts to cover up their own. The loss of the APU is only 5-10% of the mobile potential. but they were able to train and equip their reservists. And now the enemy is calmly concentrating hundreds of pieces of equipment and hitting all along the front.

[chetvertak]

According to Zaluzhny’s document, 75 tons were killed until September, which got into the network. Therefore, Ukrainians simply dragged data on the losses of the RF Armed Forces to their column! They dragged their dead to the column of the AFRF, then these data were provided to the population

[single-n]

The figure of 100k losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was voiced by Shoigu. The mob potential of Ukraine with its population of 40 million is about 5-6 million. With 140 million, we named 25 million. We take the very minimum of 2 million. And this is what we have achieved in 7 months? 5% of the mobile reserve. Cool. And this is when militias fought in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and now those who have been trained for all these months have come. And the result is obvious. And our generals (you can’t say otherwise) only having received a slurp rushed to prepare the reserves. And before that, they roared menacingly at those who said that mobilization was needed back in April. Remember these favorite phrases: "who are you to report to you?" "Squirrels are hysterical", "Fool Strelkov with his panic and mobilization mania".

[chetvertak]

From the appeal All-Russian Officers' Assembly
part of text dated May 19, 2022

7. Declare partial mobilization throughout the territory of the Russian
Federation for the additional formation of three full-fledged
operational-strategic formations: the North Ukrainian Front,
Central Ukrainian Front and South Ukrainian Front with the creation
multiple and overwhelming superiority over the enemy in personal
composition, armament and all types of equipment in order to drastically reduce losses
and shortening the National Liberation Campaign of the Russian
Army and military operations in the former Ukraine as a whole.
Can you imagine what suckers we have in power?
The mobilization of the military-industrial complex must be announced immediately after the start of the operation! And our government thought of announcing it only during mobilization, only after 7 months. This suggests that Putin has not known at all for 20 years how much, what, from whom. Therefore, his decrees are just strange! without any specifics.

[single-n]

It's not just GDP. Here the whole vertical of power "floated". All this gilding and husks fell off.
It's funny that the USSR under Stalin looked like a country of savages, but in a critical situation he managed to solve the most difficult logistical and mobilization problems in the history of mankind. And all that beautiful in the picture of the Russian Federation began to crumble wherever you poke. And this is despite the fact that there are more opportunities, and time is not so tight and the enemy does not bomb infrastructure and cities.

[chetvertak]

A few years ago, the VVP awarded the generals in the St. George Hall! The generals were dressed in all white and stood around the entire perimeter of the hall, then I was quickly reminded of the Brezhnev period. I was surprised, horrified, is it really repeating!

[astepanov]

At the very beginning of the operation, I was looking for data on the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. There were about 150 aircraft, including training and transport. Already in the third circle we destroy them. Whatever happens, the less I believe in our high-precision talking heads from the General Staff who do not have a monologue in the world. I understand that it is not good to not trust your military leaders, but so far their deeds speak for themselves.

[Procopius Nesterov]

For some reason, you do not want to take into account Soviet equipment supplied from NATO countries.

[astepanov]

Well, why not. It is clear that they are planting the "Slav brothers", and not only planes. But - immediately a counter question: why did not the delivery channels overlap from the beginning of the operation? where is the massive destruction of power plants (and this would block the railways), attacks on transformer substations of nuclear power plants, destruction of railway junctions, railway bridges, tunnels? After all, from the beginning of the NWO they said that they would supply weapons from behind the hillock. But they hung noodles on our ears: "we will slowly grind." Until what time? Until you run out of your own weapons? I don't understand anything.

[chetvertak]

missiles are not enough! and they are not cheap. It is restored very quickly. But the bridges on the Dnieper must be destroyed to the ground

[alexey sidykin]

And of course, you safely forgot about those in storage and delivered from other countries

[chetvertak]

Western arms counting centers gave false information to the wiki on Ukraine, here the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff, in order not to bother the men with analytics, they took it for the truth. Maybe they haven’t had any analytics for a long time.

[Vyacheslav Borichevsky]

So exactly what do we have? SVO?. Or war? When will this stop! What is empty talk? Judging by the reports, we have already knocked out all the tanks and aircraft!. But the tanks are still attacking and all the downed planes strike! And the air defense of the ukrov works, otherwise we would strike with aircraft, and not with Iskanders and calibers, and what’s the dumbest thing is to beat x 101 from a bear over the LC!. What kind of idiot does that? Hit missiles with a range of 5 km from the sky of the LC on targets to which the range is max. 000 km!. Yes, and even on this to do PR!. So far, we have a stupid standing in some sectors of the front, and what a front!. Civilians drive without problems, Zaporizhia proved!. A complete feeling that this war is a pure contract!. Complete incompetent command! Since the beginning of the war!. Especially in the northern section!. It looks like our General Staff is completely degraded!.

[Eug]

On the next branch, he wrote that it seems that the main task is to drag Kyiv to the negotiating table. Given Zelensky’s conditions (a strong negotiating position, which requires success in the LBS), he is “successfully” creating them.

[ada]

It is possible that such an approach is being used to create the required (desired) situation in a certain tactical direction or the general situation, especially since we had such experience. I fully admit that this is used (or used at the same time) by the enemy to solve their current tasks. It is not worth excluding this, but I consider it premature to conclude why this is being done.

[chetvertak]

Maybe! But D. Kozak said that the Minsk agreement has been at zero since 2015. Then the very meaning of this idea becomes meaningless. for negotiations! then this is a complete contradiction to what Kozak said before his. Where the reality of vision, the correctness of assessments, is opposed to a fictional idea

[Dima2]

until we stop sparing the enemy - provide an opportunity to surrender, arrange corridors for withdrawal, give time to regroup, and we will rake. We have complete air supremacy ... here one of the two is either the Ukrainians and all their equipment is transparent, or our pilots see here, and there they go blind, drones and other reconnaissance means of that kind fail at once, when, as in the words of a talking head from the box, the Ukrainians are advancing with large forces ... they are not coming out of the ground + places where the accumulation of enemy forces takes place, why are they not destroyed by air forces, artillery. So you can't win a war if you fight with one hand and pity your confused neighbors with the other. It’s time to understand that most of them, at the moment, hate us and it doesn’t matter that it was forcibly hammered into their heads, at the moment the most important thing is to break them on the battlefield, and not give opportunities and chances for such Izyum-Krasno-Limansky peremogi. And most importantly, pitying them, we lose our own - how many fighters were lost in Krasny Liman? I have not heard the real numbers to be announced

[16112014nk]

Again, they smashed all the enemies to smithereens. The generals received the next stars. But our warriors are not surrounded by chance again? Believing "Konashenkoism" is becoming bad manners.

[v1tz]

If such figures in terms of the number of armored vehicles in Ukraine correspond to reality (partners are not shy), then a more high-tech level of remote impact is needed, it does not work by accumulation or at distant approaches, then selectively. Purchase reconnaissance and strike drones (at the beginning of summer, I remember there was news about the production of the Orion UAV in 2 or 3 shifts?!).

[hhurik]

Quote: Boniface

Kvachkov!
Old terrorist, magician

Unfortunate terrorist. Cross out.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

It's cool to read such news after three days ago all our military correspondents wrote about the start of a large-scale operation to release the Liman, and yesterday it was handed over.

[gsev]

Quote: Evgeny Ivanov_5

operations to release Liman, and yesterday it was handed over.

Liman seemed to be able to unblock and withdraw the heroic garrison from it. What is the point of dying in encirclement if the enemy has a numerical superiority and seeks to continue the offensive and create a new encirclement.

[Evgeny Ivanov_5]

It was possible to retreat earlier and not bring to an almost complete encirclement. Or not to give initially cover. The conversation is about just that. Or will we throw reserves into battle just to eliminate the new environment? In 1940, it was this tactic that brought down the French. And only the tactics of continuous counterattacks saved the Soviet army from defeat in 1941.

[chetvertak]

They wanted to hold out until the 30th, for the performance of GDP

[common man]

The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine again does not take into account losses.
The more Ukrainian soldiers die, the greater will be the hatred of the rest of the population for Russia. Therefore, Zelya and its owners do not think about losses. Victory at any cost.

[TatarinSSSR]

According to all the laws of modern warfare, the gathering of enemy strike groups into a fist should be suppressed by air strikes, UAVs, artillery and missile systems even at the formation stage before moving into combat formations and on the offensive. Why is this not being done? How can you discreetly form two tank battalions a few kilometers from the front with a bunch of infantry fighting vehicles and infantry, with pickups, mortars, and then move their defending positions? Why do they generally freely form in the open air into shock groups and reach the line of contact? Where are the super unparalleled in the world of videoconferencing? Where are all the Tu-22M, Tu-160 and others? Where are all these Tornadoes, Hurricanes, etc., which burn everyone for square kilometers? Where did the entire Russian army go? Where's she? And was she? Where are all the cool Guards units praised by the voice of the announcer at the Victory parades? Is it really true that all the talk of critics about the ostentatious parade and exhibition army of Russia is true? How was the Defense Ministry going to fight NATO then? Whom did they scare with their terrible "we can repeat!"? Why are some militia, volunteer battalions, PMCs fighting and waiting for those mobilized to help?!

[igovlk]

Yes, you read about the Kantemirovskaya division that they say, it showed itself worst of all, shame on the command, deprive the banner and disband!

[chetvertak]

We have such a law! Every 5 years you get a promotion. This is how they served in divisions without any exercises

[Govorun]

After the "consoling" reports of Izyum and Liman, all news from the Moscow Region is perceived with a minimum of distrust, a maximum of "disgust" ...

[TatarinSSSR]

They used to say - it's good to lie! And now in use - what are you, Konashenkov, chtoli?

[gansales]

I won’t shout hurray .. But OUR territory of Russia needs to be cleaned up!
Whether you like it or not .. The blow to Kyiv will soon be powerful! We wait ..
The terrorist enclave must be destroyed.!

[Dartanian]

What do you smoke and what do you do every day? Recipe for studio...

[gansales]

Quote from Dartanyan

What do you smoke and what do you do every day? Recipe for studio...

I drink gulls that they gave you on the Maidan for free, and now they give pills to assaulters and they use a cannon ball under the art of Russia!
How many of you are here 500 tyh then ran hehe

[Pytnik]

Meehan, what year are you from? You don’t wait for a blow to Kyiv, they don’t live so long)

[gansales]

Quote: Pytnik

Meehan, what year are you from? You don’t wait for a blow to Kyiv, they don’t live so long)

Wait don't worry..
Kyiv will be ours and people like you will squeal here hehe
I can smell it with my genes and no matter how bad guys kick me here, but I know what will happen!

[Dartanian]

Sniffing genes is, of course, know-how :)) but heh heh yours still points to grass. Yes, there are so many inappropriate people on the forum ...

[gansales]

Quote from Dartanyan

Sniffing genes is, of course, know-how :)) but heh heh yours still points to grass. Yes, there are so many inappropriate people on the forum ...

You are here and people like you will be the most adequate hehe

Get out here! I do not have time to answer Svidomo

[leks]

Well, it's finally happened! Banned without the right to correspond

[newtc7]

I would like to know the truth of the situation there and not what our mischief reports

[Kronos]

Truthfully described Strelkov, the situation is by no means the same as in official reports.

[Entropy]

not exactly true, but as an alternative, Two Majors:

"
❗️OUT OF QUEUE

Reliably. Relevance at 9:30

On the situation in the north-east of the Kherson region.

The situation is difficult, the enemy continues offensive operations, moves forward, takes our positions, conducts heavy artillery fire.

It uses the tactics of assault armored groups, wedged into the defense, and consolidated along the line of the settlement. Shevchenkovka. Disperses equipment in position for firing.

Yesterday, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were activated from the direction of the settlement. Osokorovka to the battalion of tanks.

The Russian Armed Forces are suffering losses of personnel and armored vehicles.
"

[Dartanian]

I began to notice that it was disgusting to read the news of the Moscow Region, they killed so many, destroyed so many tanks, shot down so many planes .... For whom is this a lie?!? Only in a month, if you count the losses that the horses of the Ukrainian army cause, there are no more. How long will the general's lies be bathed in soldier's blood?!?

[Procopius Nesterov]

You do not take into account the supply of old Soviet equipment from NATO countries, as well as Western equipment.
If you look at what is being destroyed now, then this is no longer the Soviet equipment that Ukraine had, but the same Western armored personnel carriers and Western artillery.
And this means that the equipment that Ukraine had at the beginning of the NWO was mostly destroyed.
So I quite trust the MO numbers.

[Asad]

Do they deliver by echelon every day?

[chetvertak]

And what numbers will you trust if the MO says about 3200 tanks, on the Internet from 4500-6000? And the Moscow Region also takes the numbers, but from the wiki, and does not analyze why there is such a scatter in the numbers. It was on the wiki that the number from Western centers was the lowest in terms of the number of equipment in Ukraine. I searched the Internet myself: how much equipment is in Ukraine? To my own. Therefore, I give you other data

[Dikson]

If all this horde of tanks and armored vehicles is "destroyed" in the same way as in the video in the previous article about the "successful work of our artillery". - then I don’t have any serious confidence in this information .. In peppy reports .. destroyed .. I remember the whole incident from the tank biathlon of one of many .. when the tankers don’t even get close to the target with a cannon shot, and the commentator joyfully yells: There is a hit! and the generals are clapping .. it was funny to watch ..

[RuAbel]

IMHO, all our forces are thrown to protect the Crimean corridor. Perhaps in exchange for the LPR and the Kharkiv region.

[Cheburek]

How enemy units managed to reach the lines of attack in three directions at once is a more interesting question. Konashenkov sang more than once about the losses of the enemy - and then Kharkov happened.

[Arbeiternegast]

Quote: belost79

31 tanks? And why so little, the Ministry of Defense got lazy. Write 200. There are 20 aircraft. Thousands of infantry must be recorded as dead, why count them.

Ukrainian Su-25s have already shot down more than they were in all of Eastern Europe, except for Russia.

[Procopius Nesterov]

An unfounded statement without numbers and references. Did you try it on by eye?

[chetvertak]

You are not satisfied with the data of the Ministry of Defense: Go and count for yourself! We have no other source about the Patriarchs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But I think it’s close to the truth. on the underestimated data taken from the wiki. Maybe it was misinformation from Western centers on military topics. And our star generals from the Moscow Region and the General Staff were fooled by these figures, because they don’t know how to separate simple misinformation on the Internet from a real number. And they themselves and did not bother with it

[Altmann]

Finally, the Ukrainians come out of the battle weakened by our soldiers. Gentlemen, soldiers, you are brave Russians and can fight well with the army, which is subsidized by the whole west and my country, even if I do not want it. That's why I say, destroy the enemy, I'm not ashamed to write this, kill the enemy in battle. No one will take you prisoner either.

[former soldier]

When we were grinding the concrete defenses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbass agglomeration with artillery, and this went on from April to July, hoping to knock out the best trained personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and Aristovich encouraged the Sumerian people with a future August counteroffensive, many commentators here at VO pointed out that at that time without too much noise and in Ukraine and in Eastern Europe, new Ukrainian units are being prepared and sooner or later they will enter the battle on a large scale. They entered, they did not fulfill their planned goals. The next move is ours. It is better that it be more strategic and large-scale,

[azkolt]

Quote: gsev

Quote: Boniface

Old terrorist, magician

I consider the flight of Chubais from Russia the most important achievement of the NWO. If Putin, after 2014, cleaned the pro-Western liberals from power, it is possible that the SVO would not need to be carried out. For now, the pro-Western forces have retained their power levers and will be ready to throw off the patriotic forces in the event of a growing crisis. As a result of the ongoing hostilities, Putin's supporters and Russian patriots are mostly killed. If Putin does not promote people like Kvachkov and Strelkov to power, he will be left without supporters. I will assume that the Americans are more afraid of the plot with the appearance in power of people from the people's militia, Kadyrov's special forces (the Chechen army, in my circle since February 2022 they have only been saying this) and the left opposition more than Russia's military successes or the use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine. I would advise Kadyrov to open his own bank and start lending to industry in the North Caucasus. People from the HSE keep the North Caucasus away from normal loans and will never finance the development of an original competitive industry there.

Let them throw poop on me here, but I'm somewhat pleased that they piled on us! And all because it is high time to start cleansing the country, reassessing values. The war with Ukraine may not be the first most important theater of military or paramilitary operations, where we only need a victory, otherwise we will be crushed to powder, but the second or even third. We will win with Ukraine. but we can lose the economic and political war with the West, if we don’t get rid of all this liberal riff-raff that has saddled almost all levels of the country’s government. Now they are pulling up. sort of like for the victory, but in fact they sabotage everything and the time will come to turn the leg. The sooner the boss realizes this. the sooner victory will come in Ukraine. and then in other theatres.

[chetvertak]

He just did everything right! He didn’t get involved in this matter. And he probably understood the stupidity of GDP with his own. After all, GDP wanted to be independent from Chubais for the first time, That’s what happened to him without Chubais.

[Is2]

I think Goebels works in the Ministry of Defense

[AdAstra]

Judging by the amount of equipment, all the MoD briefings about the destroyed ones are not true.

[Mint Gingerbread]

Let's see what happens after the final approval of the territories in the Russian Federation. Because all this time, on the part of the Russian Federation, there was a similar saturation with equipment and other necessary things, but this is still not used, which means it is waiting in the wings. This is why everyone overlooks it. Maybe due to total tracking, it’s hard to hide movements now and everyone is trying to do it as quietly as possible. The opposite effect will be, just a matter of time and unnecessary losses.

[Beringovsky]

Quote: Mint Gingerbread

.., all this time, from the side of the Russian Federation there was a similar saturation with equipment and other necessary things, but this is still not used, which means it is waiting in the wings ...

No need to fantasize.

Quote: Mint Gingerbread

Let's see what happens after the final approval of the territories into the Russian Federation ...

The same as now. Or do you think in 2 weeks the mobilized will turn into full-fledged military formations? Silly...

[stankow]

Hold the defense and all! "Numbers are not important to us now."

[vdilyin]

Of course, sound reasoning about combat operations requires not only complete and reliable information (on strategic and operational plans, resources, the dynamics of the situation, etc.), but also professional qualifications. Those who talk on social networks (Kadyrov, journalists and other "jackets") have none of this. There is an emotional response to military failure or success.
But anything can happen in fights for destruction. And one more thing: we must not forget that on the NATO-Ukrainian side there are mostly fighters, many of whom not only speak Russian in battle, but also behave in Russian.
The main thing is to knock out the personnel and equipment of NATO-Ukrainians. This is what our guys do casually, without fanfare.

[azkolt]

Quote: dmi.pris

Why is it silent about Zolotaya Balka? Since we are at war, so lay it out, including what we cannot boast of

Quotes from military correspondents, Poddubny:
“The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine refused to attack operations in settlements in the forehead. First of all, enemy units attack communications, operate with coverage, make breakthroughs, disrupt logistics, try to isolate the database area, and only after that they pile on the settlement. And no, this is not NATO tactics, this is the old Soviet school using Western weapons and modern reconnaissance equipment.

Now enemy artillery is calmly preventing our forces from gaining a foothold on the new line, they are hitting the city to scare civilians, they are also hitting Kremennaya’s life support infrastructure, ”

Kots:
“The enemy is using Bayraktars with might and main, but as a reconnaissance drone for target designation to high-precision systems. They try not to enter the air defense coverage area.

Now the enemy, most likely, will concentrate his efforts on cutting the communication along the highway from Kremennaya to Svatovo with further advance to the north. Enemy DRGs are already on this road. Having cut off Kremennaya from the north, he will probably try to go to her.

Kitty:
“I share the anxiety - we need to keep bleeding from the nose at Kremennaya.

According to my information, those units that retreated from Liman and those that came to the rescue break into the ground here.

In general, the shortage of personnel is colossal and so far does not allow to fully cover the directions "
Why is the enemy communications intact in October 2022? This question is addressed to the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.

As for the expression “reserves came too late,” it means only one thing - the reserves did not come, at least to the right place, or for the dull ones, help did not come on time.

Such support was enough to unblock the forces that were in the pocket and create a corridor for withdrawal (the same BARS withdrew from Liman practically without losses), but not to correct the situation at the front and hold the lines.

Who commanded the reinforcements and those forces that need support is known at the top "

Sladkov:
“It turns out that the enemy did not just deprive us of the opportunity to advance from Krasny Liman to Slavyansk. It turns out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine pushed through our defense thirty kilometers in the direction of Lugansk in two days, in a straight line. So they don’t even let them dig under Kremennaya.

Don't give a fuck"
I don’t know what you want, but someone should answer strongly for this! I do not call for executions, like some bawlers, but they must be planted !!!!

[Bulrumeb]

One Tochka-U ballistic missile was intercepted.

Seven months have passed, and the assembly shop in Dnepropetrovsk, where missiles for Tochka-U were assembled, was closed only yesterday. How much have these points of grief brought during this time? But someone at the top just doesn't care

[acetophenone]

Quote: Kirill Savin

It would be my will, such heroes as you, to the wall from both sides.

God does not give horns to a vigorous cow.

[Yuriy1000]

Something many of you have forgotten the most important thing: our great Siberian Crane said that we have not even started yet. So be patient a little, maybe we'll start (if it's not too late).

[azkolt]

Quote from AdAstra

Judging by the amount of equipment, all the MoD briefings about the destroyed ones are not true.

Su 24 has already been taught as much as it was not in Ukraine and Europe.

[azkolt]

Quote from: hetvertak

He just did everything right! He didn’t get involved in this matter. And he probably understood the stupidity of GDP with his own. After all, GDP wanted to be independent from Chubais for the first time, That’s what happened to him without Chubais.

Are you talking to me?))) Actually, the commander-in-chief of our GDP, you don’t even know? And what does Shoigu mean? did not intervene, then he should go to court!