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US press: Russia may attack American infrastructure in response to blowing up two gas pipelines

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US press: Russia may attack American infrastructure in response to blowing up two gas pipelines

Russia could strike at American infrastructure if it establishes US involvement in blowing up the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines. This conclusion was made by the author of an article for the American edition of National Review.


Russia will conduct its own investigation of the incidents on two gas pipelines going to Germany, and if the US is involved in the attack on them, it can recognize the Americans as a full-fledged "belligerent" with all the ensuing consequences. First of all, the author believes, Moscow can attack American infrastructure. In addition, US involvement in the bombings will lead to a rupture of relations with Germany, even in the face of a pro-American government.

Regardless of whether the political decision to build the pipeline was bad from an economic and geopolitical point of view, the Germans would never forgive America for this act.

he writes, adding that US claims that it was Russia itself that blew up its gas pipelines do not stand up to scrutiny.

A retired colonel, former senior adviser to the head of the Pentagon, Douglas McGregor, came to the same conclusion. According to him, the ears of the United States or Great Britain are sticking out of this sabotage. It is they who receive the greatest benefit from the destruction of the Nord Streams, and they have all the necessary means for this.

Meanwhile, "sleepy Joe" has already accused Russia of alleged involvement in blowing up its own gas pipelines. Biden does not need to wait for the end of the investigation, in his opinion it was a "deliberate act of sabotage." The US president promised a "thorough investigation" to definitively establish Russia's involvement in the bombings.

It was a deliberate act of sabotage. Now the Russians are spreading disinformation. We will work with our allies to sort out what happened.

- quotes the White House Biden's statement.
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  1. know
    know 2 October 2022 09: 45
    +56
    They beat those who allow themselves to be beaten. Putin has been mumbling about "partners" for 8 years. And if he struck seriously and immediately after the imposition of sanctions - even at the cost of losses, stopped the export of energy resources and in general any raw materials, pointedly threw McDonald's out of Russia, who left Crimea, immediately recognized the Donbass and supported the Russian Spring movement - now there would be no sanctions, and no war. And Ukraine would, most likely, no longer exist.
    1. krot
      krot 2 October 2022 10: 06
      +8
      if it establishes the involvement of the United States in undermining the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines

      And they, what do they think to pat on the head for this?
      Putin has been mumbling about "partners" for 8 years

      Yes, our president has plenty of "tolerance" .. It's time to turn on Stalin! Especially to the local pro-Western talking heads! Raskherachit the entire Lviv region, so that on the border with the Poles there would be scorched earth and ruins! And if the Sumerians arrange radioactive contamination at one of the nuclear power plants, then nuclear warheads along the border with Poland will not hurt!
      1. gray_wolf
        gray_wolf 2 October 2022 11: 43
        +13
        Your attention: Stalin did not have accounts in foreign banks. Therefore, he was not afraid of anything or anyone.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 2 October 2022 13: 36
          0
          Quote: vet
          And Ukraine would, most likely, no longer exist.

          On the contrary.
          Now there is no Ukraine - there is Xoxlandia, the mongrel of the States.
          And then just Ukraine would be. Developed. Independent. Friendly.
        2. sheet
          sheet 2 October 2022 15: 26
          +4
          Quote: gray_wolf
          Your attention: Stalin did not have accounts in foreign banks. Therefore, he was not afraid of anything or anyone.

          Your attention, and Putin does not.
          1. krot
            krot 2 October 2022 17: 30
            +1
            Your attention, and Putin does not.

            Yes, he apparently hints that half of the liberals in the country have these bills and yell the loudest here ..) They will dispossess kulaks ..
            1. sheet
              sheet 2 October 2022 18: 22
              0
              Quote: krot
              Yes, he apparently hints that half of the liberals in the country have these bills and yell louder than anyone here

              So I would not have written “at Stalin”, but at, for example, Malenkov, Bogdanov, etc.
              There is no mind to change the methodology.
      2. alexey alexeyev_2
        alexey alexeyev_2 2 October 2022 13: 30
        -2
        Yes, shy away at the Yavorsky TNW range. Here we'll see. But the guarantor is compassionate. brothers still ... their mother would
      3. skeptic
        skeptic 3 October 2022 14: 00
        0
        Quote: krot
        if it establishes the involvement of the United States in undermining the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines

        And they, what do they think to pat on the head for this?

        Do not tell me who will let Russia investigate the explosions? Who told you that the Americans would not show "undeniable fragments of Russian missiles" or other fuss with a Russian label? Not to mention that they can, without haste, prepare a "crime scene" for even the Martians?
        Our leaders still don’t think of launching a drone from the inside through the pipe (with large gaps, you can also remove it from the outside, take samples, debris), in order to fix the crime scenes and leave unnoticed. Because the vile curators will not allow you to deviate from their "script".
    2. gansales
      gansales 2 October 2022 10: 07
      -7
      Regardless of whether the political decision to build the pipeline was bad from an economic and geopolitical point of view, the Germans would never forgive America for this act.

      Oh Germans, Russia warned you ..
      In general, all this only plays into Russia's hands! And let the Poles not rejoice when a pipe was launched from Norway at the same time as our pipeline was blown up.
      Nuclear submarine "Belgorod" losharik in Russia is on duty and even more.
      And there are a lot of different cables and pipes at the bottom of the ocean .. You just need to press the button!
      Amers will answer us for the "Kursk"!
      1. Gvardeetz77
        Gvardeetz77 2 October 2022 11: 03
        +3
        Nuclear submarine "Belgorod" losharik in Russia is on duty and even more.

        The Belgorod and Losharik nuclear submarines are two different boats, and the last one had a fire in 19, after which it was completely silent whether it was returned to service or written off.
        By the way, you have been waiting for you in neighboring branches about Liman ..
        1. Skobaristan
          Skobaristan 2 October 2022 13: 03
          +1
          For memory . Comrade Stalin: do not succumb to provocations. (C) And yet, yes, at one time Hitler was a "dear partner". True, both then and now, everyone perfectly understood what was going on, and tried to buy time
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 2 October 2022 18: 24
            +2
            Quote from gansales
            Oh Germans, Russia warned you ......
            For the Germans (and for those European countries that need our gas), it is vital that our troops reach the western borders of Ukraine, then we will have the opportunity to supply our gas through the gas transmission system laid across the territory of Ukraine. Therefore, by providing military assistance to Ukraine, they only delay the opportunity to solve their problems.
            PS
            And there also Pridnestrovie will ask us.
        2. gansales
          gansales 2 October 2022 18: 04
          -2
          Quote: Gvardeetz77
          By the way, you have been waiting for you in neighboring branches about Liman ..

          I'm already being poisoned everywhere .. I'm not going to run around, for you liberals with answers .. Whine and piss off over Russia!
          Then we'll see hi
      2. 76rtbr
        76rtbr 3 October 2022 09: 56
        -1
        the fact is that all the "" old ones drown for an active response, but they immediately downvote because they belong to those who have a warm pension, and in another war, it’s hard to see those will be !!!
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 2 October 2022 10: 12
      +3
      Quote: vet
      Putin has been mumbling about "partners" for 8 years.

      And I believe in the myth that Putin's first proposal is good, and all the others are worse, worse and worse. But who would have thought that Chingadzhuk does not see a rake point-blank
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 2 October 2022 12: 33
        -1
        Quote: Tusv
        Chingadzhuk does not see a rake point-blank

        You called Chingachgook "special" like that - Chin - bastard - beetle? And I call the liberals who are disgusting to me and leading inappropriately liberals - “Mr” ... Go prove that you are not “product No. 2”, but a completely respected “Mr” ...
        Because the real meaning of the word "master" is:
        Lord - the lord, lord, master of a slave or serf.
        Lord - a person who, in appearance, belongs to the nobility
        Master is one of the categories of the Top in BDSM.

        Here, too, I can say for sure that I did not consider myself to be either slaves, or serfs, or lords, overlords, masters, or nobles.


      2. stankow
        stankow 2 October 2022 13: 50
        0
        There were "partners". Yesterday I already correctly called - "opponents". Drop masks.
    4. Magog_
      Magog_ 2 October 2022 10: 14
      0
      even at the cost of losses, stopped the export of energy
      Therefore, "traders" are worse than outright traitors. You identify or calculate the latter, and these are dressed up in patriotic clothes, beautiful slogans with flags, but on your mind: how to get money from any situation ... Even, it seemed, the simple idea of ​​"calculations for rubles" turned into a muddy procedure banks ... Yes, they will just as well refuse these virtual currency funds in our bank accounts at any time, prohibiting anyone from accepting payments from our accounts. The ban on the use of Mir cards - the first flowers, then there will be dandelions and berries ... After all, everything is simple and obvious: sell everything we need for rubles, and then pay for energy with the same rubles. This is what concerns trade with "unfriendly countries", with others - a different contractual approach.
    5. Clear
      Clear 2 October 2022 10: 25
      +3
      Quote: vet
      Putin has been mumbling about "partners" for 8 years.

      Something he quite already sour. It seems to me...
      1. cniza
        cniza 2 October 2022 10: 33
        +5
        hi

        It doesn’t look like him, but as they say, we don’t have a great choice, everything will become clear soon ...
        1. yuriy55
          yuriy55 2 October 2022 12: 47
          0
          Quote: cniza
          Doesn't look like him, but, as they say, we don't have much choice

          We have a great choice. It's just that our choice does not coincide with the choice of the bourgeoisie. They also decided that it was time to end the games with the elections. Appetite came during zhora to the belly.
          Quote: cniza
          soon everything will be clear...

          As soon as the GDP cancels the pension reform, it will introduce a progressive personal income tax scale, like in China (even if like in GB - there are standards of social life for liberals, oligarchs hung out there); abolish the predatory VAT for citizens and production, replacing it with a sales tax (for finished, final, independent products); remove this miserable semblance of medicine - insurance medicine; abolish this filthy, shameful water accounting; save people from taxes, air, etc. - so everything will become clear. Then we will find out who is a particular patriot, and who has exchanged a dagger for a watch.
          1. aglet
            aglet 2 October 2022 13: 36
            -1
            "Then we will find out who is a particular patriot, and who exchanged a dagger for a watch"
            no one will ever cancel this, because we will not learn anything about the dagger and especially, about the dagger
        2. Clear
          Clear 2 October 2022 13: 01
          +4
          Quote: cniza
          As they say, we don't have much choice.

          hi Thank you, Vitya, reassured lol
      2. Dead duck
        Dead duck 2 October 2022 11: 16
        -1
        Once again, the environment set me up. Apparently he believed. Yes, and there was no choice.
        "What is the king, such is the court."
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    7. Sniper
      Sniper 2 October 2022 12: 02
      +2
      Russia, as shown by recent events.. can only express concern.
      1. aglet
        aglet 2 October 2022 12: 37
        -4
        "Russia, as recent events have shown .. can only express concern."
        not Russia, but its authorities. puffing cheeks the last 20 years has not led to anything good. But imagine, tomorrow Nata will attack, and the tiao has turned sour, and there are not even eggs to press the red button?
      2. yuriy55
        yuriy55 2 October 2022 12: 49
        +2
        Quote: Sniper
        Russia, as shown by recent events.. can only express concern.

        What we are doing on the site day and night...
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    8. Armen Sologyan
      Armen Sologyan 2 October 2022 12: 27
      +6
      dear, and in the US arsenal there are biological weapons, for example, coronavirus and new strains based on it. There was Ebola, but somehow it was not very strong. In addition, the United States has more than once used weapons of mass destruction, and for the United States all the Western, bought in the bud, the media, which poured so much filth about Russia. So, if Russia does something in response, then the United States will again release some kind of muck like a coronavirus and no one can prove it. All the same, the United States is still strong, and they can only be defeated by dropping the dollar below the plinth. Now, if everyone, not the NATO countries, together refuse to immediately conduct trading operations with the dollar, then this will be a severe blow and the dollar will collapse on all exchanges. At the same time, nothing will happen to the economies of countries that have abandoned the dollar, because they have already been untied with the dollar!!! The dollar is the most powerful weapon on which you must methodically beat and hammer like a nail into the floor, so much so that you can’t even see the hat.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 2 October 2022 13: 58
        0
        Quote: Armen Sologyan
        Now, if everyone, not the NATO countries, together refuse to immediately conduct trading operations with the dollar, then this will be a severe blow and the dollar will collapse on all exchanges.

        What difference does it make for the United States, how many countries will be covered by a pandemic ... They will destroy the whole world if they please. These are wild, rabid creatures, sensing their imminent collapse, which can only be neutralized by destruction, and not by negotiations, not by treaties, nor by obligations that they will violate for their own benefit.
        Today you can see perfectly how the United States is systematically destroying the economy of Europe - its kneeling vassal.
        You watch your hands and the temperature of the surrounding air. Let's see how American LNG comes to the rescue of a freezing Europe, and let Miller or anyone else send gas carriers to Europe or increase volumes through the Ukrainian pipeline.
        The Hero of Russia should be given to someone who will block it until the end of the war (at least).
        1. Armen Sologyan
          Armen Sologyan 2 October 2022 17: 37
          +1
          Not all Americans have a taste of Russophobia, but only a pathetic bunch of oligarchs like the Rockefellers, Morgans and the like, what is called the shadow government. The US Federal Reserve is printing dollars, and these oligarchs are in control of everything, including the NSA, the CIA, the Pentagon, the Congress, the President and other bastards. Their machine for printing dollars does not dry out. Russia waited a long time and put up with NATO to the East, now Russia to the West. We will recapture all the lands of Russia, others will later come on their own and there will be a territory like under the Russian Empire !!! Russia is the best country!!! Here Russia will return Novorossia completely with Kyiv and Odessa, then it will take care of Armenia. Armenia and Armenians still hope for Russia and wait for Russia because, compared to Russia, the United States can build biological laboratories, as it did in Ukraine and Georgia. Normal Armenians understand this. I do not see the power of the USA and Britain. It was because of the coronavirus that my parents left in 2020 and 2021, and my wife also suffered. Among other things, therefore, I am FOR Vladimir Putin and Sergei Shoigu. Let them properly slap these Americans from the Pentagon in Ukraine!!!!
    9. JonnyT
      JonnyT 2 October 2022 12: 38
      0
      Can't wait for heaven?
      Wow, how would they answer right now !!! Drop a nuclear loaf on Fashington! Wow!

      We have another 20 years to "endure" and maneuver.
      The whole movement in 2040-2050 will be!
      In the meantime, rejoice that you are alive and do not die from radiation sickness and do not see the ruins of your homes and the graves of loved ones!
      1. Skobaristan
        Skobaristan 2 October 2022 13: 08
        +1
        Here I agree. Well, everyone so wants to quickly bang. No, this is understandable, a person is such a creature, he wants everything at once, on emotions.
      2. yuriy55
        yuriy55 2 October 2022 14: 01
        -1
        Quote: JonnyT
        Can't wait for heaven?
        Wow, how would they answer right now !!! Drop a nuclear loaf on Fashington! Wow!

        Yes, it's better to die, go to heaven or somewhere else, than wallow in a cesspool all your life. This stinking smell of cowardice, rot, eternal groveling is worse than a public execution.
        The fresh blood of the joined republics will be able to stop the rotting of the whole organism.
        1. nordscout
          nordscout 2 October 2022 23: 19
          -2
          Dear "yuriy55"! Even the "fresh blood" of the DPR-LPR will not be able to stop the "internal decay" in the bowels of the capitalist society into which we were "dragged" and, not without our help with you ... To get out of this "cesspool" you need VERY serious systemic changes in the State... One wise oriental person said that it is very difficult for a herd of rams to defeat a pack of wolves, but it is possible if a wolf is at the head of the herd, a wise, decisive, uncompromising one who knows the price of every ram.... That's something like this ....
    10. nordscout
      nordscout 2 October 2022 23: 07
      0
      VET! You very rightly noticed ... It is a pity that they did not, do not, and, it seems, will not make such simple conclusions in the near future, who is supposed to do this .... The relapse of liberal universal education, the last 30 years, selfishness and inner the "indifference" of the Russian layman, the complete de-ideologization of society, as a whole, led to that "intermediate" finale of Russia's protracted "unrequited love" for the collective West + USA .... To be, and not to seem, is a completely different motivation, attitude, manifestation of determination and the political will of everything and everyone, from a simple hard worker to the Supreme, inclusive .... And "shaking the air" with patriotic "words" from all irons already touches few people, especially how many words have already been said, how many red pencils have been "exhausted" to draw "red", "very red" and, simply, "crimson lines", which the West simply ignores, realizing that these are just words and nothing more ... And now - in the battle against us, NATO, and we are trying to portray some th "liberation campaign against Ukraine by a limited military contingent" in the style of "a la 1939" ... And to win this war, you need a very strong political will, military art and iron balls for the male population of the country ...
  2. Mirakuru
    Mirakuru 2 October 2022 09: 46
    +20
    The Germans may not forgive, but their government is grabbing them, even if Biden confesses to blowing up on air ..
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 2 October 2022 09: 49
      +4
      The bombing saved the Leaver government. He is grateful to Bidon.
    2. Fizik13
      Fizik13 2 October 2022 10: 16
      +4
      Quote: Mirakuru
      The Germans may not forgive, but their government is grabbing them, even if Biden confesses to blowing up on air ..

      The Germans have their own Gorbachev (Scholz), they need to get rid of him as soon as possible. Otherwise, you will not have time to blink an eye and there is no USSR, sorry Germany.
      1. Hitriy Zhuk
        Hitriy Zhuk 2 October 2022 10: 23
        +3
        They need to declare themselves the GDR, cut off the land from Poland so that they would have a border with Kaliningrad and Belarus.
        And then (it is important then) to withdraw from NATO / EU.
        After all, it usually does not climb into conflicts between NATO members.

        And there you can ask for a gas pipka.
        And if they give a piece of land from Belarus to Kaliningrad ...

        Throughout history, they have been against Russia and raked, maybe it's worth trying the other way around?
      2. aglet
        aglet 2 October 2022 12: 40
        -3
        "The Germans got their own Gorbachev (Scholz), they need to get rid of him as soon as possible."
        no need to get rid of anyone! Putin will save and save everyone. partners will be grateful, and let them live, in Austria. what does he like about her
    3. belovvladimir
      belovvladimir 2 October 2022 10: 22
      +3
      The United States dropped an atomic bomb on Japan, and what, the Japanese of this generation think on the contrary that they threw off the USSR, they live like that! And in Germany, sober-minded people know that this is the work of the United States and Small Shavers, and that they will wipe themselves off and they will kick Russia! hi
    4. yuriy55
      yuriy55 2 October 2022 12: 56
      -1
      Quote: Mirakuru
      The Germans may not forgive, but their government is grabbing them, even if Biden confesses to blowing up on air ..

      I am most interested in the question: is the Russian government, the Russian authorities, "sucking up" all this mess - will it be able to compensate for the damage to its image of a sovereign state? Mr. Miller has already compensated for the material damage - otherwise why would he pay dividends from the profit received by Gazprom in the amount of more than 1 rubles (€ 200 at today's exchange rate).
  3. Arkady007
    Arkady007 2 October 2022 09: 47
    +8
    The US investigation will find nothing. It's without options.
    As the British said, Hiley Likely answers all questions.
    We need to think about how to respond to them, so that they would be very hurt.
    1. Siberia55
      Siberia55 2 October 2022 10: 36
      0
      How to answer? Well, we kind of have undetectable submarines. So sink a dozen gas carriers from the USA
      1. Sagetaus
        Sagetaus 2 October 2022 10: 43
        +5
        Quote: Siberia55
        How to answer? Well, we kind of have undetectable submarines. So sink a dozen gas carriers from the USA

        You can first make the same stuffing louder, predicting that the United States will now be ready to drown its gas carriers in order to stage a "reply from Russia", which supposedly should prove our guilt. And then do it really laughing
      2. patxi46
        patxi46 2 October 2022 12: 22
        0
        Better to cut underwater internet cables to Europe and Asia in one fell swoop. Then say it was us.
    2. aglet
      aglet 2 October 2022 12: 43
      -2
      "We need to think about how to respond to them so that they are very hurt"
      I think two concerns need to be expressed!!! simultaneously!! or even three
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 2 October 2022 15: 49
      0
      Quote: Arkady007
      The US investigation will find nothing. It's without options.

      And what is there to investigate if the guilty have already been appointed? The gas has not yet come out of the pipe (the wreckage of the plane did not reach the ground, the dust from the explosion did not settle), and it is already clear to the "civilized" that "Russia is to blame."
      The US president promised a "thorough investigation" to definitively establish Russia's involvement in the bombings.
      An interesting "investigation" when the culprit is not identified, but stubbornly looking for evidence of the guilt of the one already appointed as the culprit. Although ... Why be surprised? We have seen Western "investigations" more than once.

      It reminds me of a phrase from a good comedy
      - So what will your positive answer?


      An interesting thing turns out.
      In Germany, they are moving to a planned socialist model of the economy with state regulation of prices, state subsidies, etc.
      In the United States, the 37th year is coming - "if there was a person, there would be a job."
      Once Great Britain has sunk to the level of banal Arab terrorists.
      Where is the world heading?
  4. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 2 October 2022 09: 48
    +5
    Yes, we are purple, according to the words of the can. They have already been appointed executors. Let them now have the substance wandering in the pipes. They raised the rates, let them wait for an answer.
    1. Siberia55
      Siberia55 2 October 2022 10: 40
      -1
      So they all wait and wait - and silence ...
      Hymers, reconnaissance, guidance, etc. They throw, throw trial pebbles, and in response to "asymmetric" answers - we threaten with a finger and that's how we start! ..
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 2 October 2022 10: 44
        0
        I wrote below what we can answer painlessly for ourselves, but it’s very noticeable for the USA and they won’t yell about it. We have such a GOOGI office. And we won’t know about it.
  5. AAK
    AAK 2 October 2022 09: 49
    +23
    Russia now cannot even attack Ukrainian infrastructure, not to mention European, and even more so American ... it is unlikely that they will be able to prove anything according to SP-1,2, and to take a serious act simply because we need it, the Russian leadership will not have the courage and courage. Here only holidays on the blood of our soldiers and officers can be arranged, surrender cities, and also lie in the eyes of the people or stupidly remain silent
  6. Silver99
    Silver99 2 October 2022 09: 49
    -1
    Between words, intergalactic space can and will do, the United States may not be afraid of Russian retaliation in attacks on its infrastructure, now we will take a red pencil and redraw the lines, and the press secretary will voice this with clever commentary words.
  7. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 2 October 2022 09: 49
    +11
    Ridiculous. We don’t really attack the infrastructure, but the hacks have already set their sights on the US infrastructure
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 2 October 2022 10: 01
      +6
      The destruction of anti-submarine underwater sonar barriers in the North Atlantic, after which the United States will not shout about it to the whole world, but will convulsively cut off our phone with stupid questions.
  8. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 2 October 2022 09: 51
    +6
    If we do not answer the Anglo-Saxons, we will lose face ... the Chinese will no longer respect us as a people.
    No one in the world respects spineless and weak-willed people.
    1. Silver99
      Silver99 2 October 2022 09: 56
      -4
      And how can you respect or not respect the people? You are confusing concepts, the people are a subculture, here we can only talk about the attitude towards the authorities of this very country, this government is capable of decisive actions to defend the interests of its country, or only verbiage. Then even the Balts do not take it seriously ((((
      1. aglet
        aglet 2 October 2022 12: 51
        -1
        "How can you respect or not respect the people?"
        yes, like now, for example. frenzied Russophobia over the past few years, do you think this is respect for the Russian people?
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 2 October 2022 09: 59
      +2
      The Chinese themselves have screwed up about Taiwan. But with us ... The near future will show. Perhaps (I really didn’t want to, because the country would not survive this) a repetition of spring-summer 1917 ...
      1. Silver99
        Silver99 2 October 2022 10: 06
        -4
        There is a sad analogy in your words, in 1905-1917, when, as a result of the hatred approach to the war, we lost territories, undermined the economy and the well-being of the people, and this led to unrest in the country, I really don’t want a repetition. Just deja vu stories
        1. Sagetaus
          Sagetaus 2 October 2022 10: 38
          -2
          Quote from Silver99

          I really don't want a repeat. Just deja vu stories

          Here it is the very grafted narrative: God forbid, the 17th again!!!

          Do you think the current state has where else to degrade? (after all, a change of course is not expected, and no one is going to give up power, measures have been taken to preserve it)
      2. Korsar4
        Korsar4 2 October 2022 10: 10
        -3
        And after February 1917 October 1917 followed. Much can happen again. Although, of course, options are possible.
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 2 October 2022 10: 29
          0
          There are no more Bolsheviks. I admit the option of a military dictatorship. Maybe this is the way out. But this is only if the military is sensible.
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 2 October 2022 11: 25
            -2
            What to guess - we'll see. But the children and grandchildren will have to clear up a lot.
            1. aglet
              aglet 2 October 2022 12: 58
              -3
              "But the children and grandchildren will have to clear up a lot."
              that’s for sure, reparations to Khokhlyats, the obligatory study of the Khokhlyatsky MOV, to give away the territory, and, again, choose Putin for another 20 years. like, we have a crossing
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 2 October 2022 13: 13
                -1
                Let's wait. But whether we have 200 years, like China, is a question.
          2. aglet
            aglet 2 October 2022 12: 55
            -3
            ".But this is only if the military is smart."
            judging by the results of the war, there are no sensible military either
      3. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 3 October 2022 05: 39
        0
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Perhaps (I really didn’t want to, because the country would not survive this) a repetition of the spring-summer of 1917 ...

        She survived the spring-summer of 1917, the autumn of 1917 came.
        Will survive and repeat.
        Preferably with the same results.
    3. Messernov
      Messernov 2 October 2022 12: 28
      0
      No, we're just laughing at how Western Europe is getting through this winter and how they pretend they don't know who to blame.
  9. Cowbra
    Cowbra 2 October 2022 09: 52
    0
    Well, it would be completely savage on the part of the Russian Federation! Fu be like that. They must be forced to pay reparations for the fact that with their anti-democratic policy they forced the United States to make such expenses - and undermine the gas pipeline. And when they pay, they will lay more ssantsii!
    1. Silver99
      Silver99 2 October 2022 10: 01
      -2
      ))) reparations are paid only after the defeat of one of the parties after the war, maybe you meant damages, so I will disappoint you, European courts will not accept this, there is no evidence base, only guesswork (((
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 2 October 2022 10: 45
        -1
        And what about the courts? And reparations sound better! Zelya also demanded reparations for being beaten ... I, and not you, will disappoint you - for all sorts of European courts, there is no need for evidence for a long time, and the United States does not need a European court, they decided, it means it's true!
        1. aglet
          aglet 2 October 2022 13: 00
          -3
          "Zelya won also demanded reparations for being beaten .."
          and they beat him hard, lately?
          1. Cowbra
            Cowbra 2 October 2022 13: 15
            0
            Judging by what he carries - quite, and mostly on the head.
            They say that nadys 20% of the territory was taken away, yes. Well, he realized that this was a win, he was sitting celebrating ... Looks like he got hit on the head again
            1. aglet
              aglet 2 October 2022 13: 22
              -4
              "Judging by what he carries - very"
              about the red estuary, for example. straight blizzard!
              1. Cowbra
                Cowbra 2 October 2022 13: 34
                -1
                Is Krasny Liman the only place in the world where he hasn't been beaten on the head recently? I wouldn’t say, he was recently chopped off from him? Then they forced him to put a bunch of hard-trained troops under him, leaving again with only therorams and without shells and equipment again? Vaughn runs, begging, like a hit?
                1. aglet
                  aglet 2 October 2022 13: 46
                  -1
                  "He's running around, begging like he's been beaten?"
                  that's about the same thing, you, or someone like you, talked about balakley. from the estuary to moscow - two refueling tanks, Schaub you knew. but this, by the way)))
                  1. Cowbra
                    Cowbra 2 October 2022 13: 58
                    -2
                    You also quote the words of an American general "we will take Kyiv in three days", which yours give out for a quote from almost Shoigu, say it. And then something went wrong with the gas stations at all - it didn’t blur anything close. Watching your holiday? What are you celebrating? Another "bang" dill near Kherson?
                    1. aglet
                      aglet 2 October 2022 14: 11
                      -2
                      "I'm watching your holiday? What are you celebrating?"
                      yes, holiday. teacher's day if you don't know laughing
                    2. aglet
                      aglet 2 October 2022 14: 15
                      -1
                      "which yours give out for a quote from almost Shoigu"
                      a gesture from Gostomel, did the American generals also make, or, after all, Shoigu? or there, raisins, firth, is that also American generals?
                2. aglet
                  aglet 2 October 2022 14: 19
                  -2
                  "Krasny Liman - is that the only place in the world where he hasn't been beaten on the head recently?"
                  why, the only one? gostomel, balakleya, etc. suma, there, raisins. yes, there are many such places. avdiivka, marinka. what am I telling you, all this, you have already taken Kyiv and lions
                3. aglet
                  aglet 2 October 2022 14: 28
                  -3
                  “Then they forced them to put a bunch of hard-trained troops under it, leaving again with only therorams and without shells and equipment again?
                  well, yes, he doesn’t have anything, he drives the valiant troops of the Russian Federation with some cuttings from shovels. for that now he has tanks, and armored personnel carriers, and warehouses with weapons. putin gave
    2. Crete 25
      Crete 25 2 October 2022 10: 28
      -1
      And they will immediately cry and pay. Yes Yes.
  10. Dimy4
    Dimy4 2 October 2022 09: 52
    -1
    Reassuring the US press - Russia cannot, does not want and will not attack US infrastructure. There are many reasons for this.
    1. SaLaR
      SaLaR 2 October 2022 09: 57
      0
      There is only one reason.. The raven will not peck out the crow ....
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 2 October 2022 10: 02
        -1
        There is only one reason .. A raven will not peck out the eyes of a crow ....

        Yep, it's marked with $.
      2. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 3 October 2022 05: 46
        0
        Quote: SaLaR
        There is only one reason .. A raven will not peck out the eyes of a crow ....

        Especially, the younger raven to the older one.
  11. Tusv
    Tusv 2 October 2022 09: 56
    +1
    It cannot, but it must. And not mei bi, but take it
  12. blackcat
    blackcat 2 October 2022 10: 00
    0
    Ears of both the UK and the USA, the delivery is either not appropriate, although in this situation Mac Gregor wants to disown the British, but they won’t hurt a fly without an order and agreement with the USA am
  13. Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich
    Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich 2 October 2022 10: 00
    +2
    Ha ha ha ha :)))). Putin does not even allow the Ukrainian gas pipeline to be blown up, and here the media write about the undermining of American gas pipelines :))).
  14. Leshak
    Leshak 2 October 2022 10: 00
    0
    US press: Russia may attack US infrastructure in response to blowing up two gas pipelines.
    This requires steel nerves, and their shortage in the Russian government.
  15. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 2 October 2022 10: 04
    +1
    Unfortunately, the current leadership of the country does not have the courage to strike back. We've been through this many times before.
    1. Silver99
      Silver99 2 October 2022 10: 13
      -2
      You are right (((for such an answer, a person of Kadyrov's mentality should be the Supreme, today a blow to us tomorrow the offender cries bitterly.
      1. kill the fascist
        kill the fascist 2 October 2022 10: 23
        0
        Kadyrov is the other extreme and, in my opinion, he can hold certain positions in a country with nuclear weapons. For example, to lead a region, industry or military-industrial complex (it would be interesting to look at the leaders / swindlers responsible for the production of UAVs), but not the person making the final decisions for the country. Very hot and always chooses confrontation and fight like Parthos.
        1. ananias mudishev
          ananias mudishev 2 October 2022 11: 12
          0
          But the Americans do it and everything works out
  16. opuonmed
    opuonmed 2 October 2022 10: 09
    -1
    if the infrastructure is still alive in ukrrr, then the United States will be alive, they write nonsense! shas do the us what they want!
  17. Dave36
    Dave36 2 October 2022 10: 15
    0
    Nothing will happen) We never answer, even in Ukraine.
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 October 2022 10: 21
    +1
    The US president promised a "thorough investigation" to definitively establish Russia's involvement in the bombings.
    To conduct a thorough and unbiased investigation, it is enough to open the safes in the CIA and the Pentagon, without whose help the special services would not have been able to pull off such an operation. And to blame Russia for the explosions of their own gas pipeline, the Americans do not need to spend effort and money - they croaked at all international sites and went around the world with the help of sixes.
    1. Sergey3
      Sergey3 2 October 2022 10: 28
      +1
      What for? Now everything is on the servers, you just need a hacker.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 2 October 2022 10: 45
        +1
        First, "open the safe" is a figurative expression. Secondly, if it was only a skilled hacker, then many problems simply would not exist.
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 3 October 2022 06: 05
          0
          Quote: rotmistr60
          First, "open the safe" is a figurative expression. Secondly, if it was only a skilled hacker, then many problems simply would not exist.

          It is worth loud promise a good / adequate bonus and / or political asylum for leaking compromising information.
          This will at least make you twitch, and maybe really compromising evidence will come up.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 3 October 2022 05: 56
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      To conduct a thorough and unbiased investigation, it is enough to open the safes in the CIA and the Pentagon, without whose help the special services would not have been able to pull off such an operation.

      "Investigation" will most likely be carried out to make sure that the traces are completely covered up.
  19. Tusv
    Tusv 2 October 2022 10: 22
    -1
    This conclusion was made by the author of an article for the American edition of National Review.

    Everything is much worse. In Moscow on October 1, there was such a frank May thunderstorm that I was reminded of the environmental tax on greenhouse gas emissions. Not well, they blew up and blew up. Yankees! But you are used to paying taxes. Set an example. We are waiting carefully
  20. Crete 25
    Crete 25 2 October 2022 10: 26
    0
    "May" sounds like an assessment of physical and technical capabilities, not probability. The probability tends to zero.
  21. Sergey3
    Sergey3 2 October 2022 10: 27
    +4
    Russia not only can, but must now do this, otherwise they will further undermine the southern stream, and then they will start attacking tankers.
  22. Horus
    Horus 2 October 2022 10: 44
    -1
    Before you beat someone, you need to train the army, but you need to answer. Commercial satellites are standing in the throat, but they cannot be quickly restored.
  23. Is2
    Is2 2 October 2022 10: 47
    -3
    How Russia attacks with its mighty Qatari army is doing so well in Ukraine
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 3 October 2022 06: 11
      0
      Quote: Is2
      How Russia attacks with its mighty Qatari army is doing so well in Ukraine

      Yes, at least a complete ban on the sale of our LNG striped.
      They resold it several times.
  24. Sagetaus
    Sagetaus 2 October 2022 10: 51
    +3
    View
    https://telegra.ph/Preduprezhdenie-09-29

    .............
    For Putin, this is a severe blow to his international image. He was simply dipped face into a vat of substance, and easily and without much effort. And now they are watching with interest how he will get out of this vat. The problem is clear: if someone is declared responsible for this sabotage, then they will have to answer. Moreover: he is generally obliged to answer under any circumstances. At least just appoint the culprit and deal with him exponentially, even if the appointed person has nothing to do with what happened. This is exactly what the States did after the 911 attack. An event of this level cannot be left without consequences without a complete loss of authority.

    However, the Kremlin is clearly backing down - it gathers the Security Council, loudly complains somewhere in space, the FSB initiates a criminal case. In general, in bureaucratic language, this is all called "clouding". The explanation is simple - Putin has nothing to answer. The signal is so clear and obvious that there can be only one answer - not legal, but political.

    In terms of the level of catastrophicity and consequences, the undermining of the Nord Streams is comparable to the use of a full-fledged nuclear charge. Unless without radioactive contamination of the area. It is even hard to imagine a more convincing hint to the Kremlin: did you guys decide to threaten us? No problem. We can too. And not only scratching your tongue, like you. What do you say to that?
    ...............
    1. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 2 October 2022 11: 16
      0
      It seems to be more correct here. Well, here and there. You are both right and wrong. At the moment, it is clear who the Gobal Terrorist is. And the answer will show that he is not alone. Well, I mean to attract more (swaying) states into international law.
  25. Alex Nevs
    Alex Nevs 2 October 2022 11: 12
    +1
    Just now Everyone here was yelling about "cut off the gas to Europe." And it’s like that, VVP screwed them up with the wrong hands. laughing And here with a very distant political backlog.
    1. Asad
      Asad 2 October 2022 11: 55
      +2
      I don’t know what screwed up the GDP, but with the sabotage at the joint venture, they broke his gas baton. Previously, he wanted to, sold gas, didn’t want to, didn’t sell it. And now that’s all, there’s nothing to wave in front of the nose of “partners”, They can even cause problems in the Black Sea. Will remain only through the independence
      1. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs 2 October 2022 17: 07
        0
        Noooo. You did not understand. This club has already called them. And oh, how she screamed ... almost to death.
  26. vbnikolaev
    vbnikolaev 2 October 2022 11: 21
    0
    The Americans cowardly refuse what they have done, they have not even thought about how to blame Russia for this sabotage, which would look very convincing, but why, everyone knows everything, but they are silent, this is the calculation. These are bandits, gangsters, they must be destroyed.
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  28. the same doctor
    the same doctor 2 October 2022 11: 58
    +1
    Complete nonsense. We do not need to attack Western infrastructure, it is enough to cut off supplies to the West. Norwegian gas pipelines The states themselves will blow up to accuse us.
  29. Viktor29
    Viktor29 2 October 2022 12: 04
    0
    US press: Russia can

    Russia can't do anything.
  30. EVPATIY878
    EVPATIY878 2 October 2022 12: 05
    -1
    You need to understand that these explosions are another red line for the Kremlin, and how many of them there were before and what, so the Yankus are scared in vain.
  31. Yapet100
    Yapet100 2 October 2022 12: 26
    -1
    What a hit!!! Relatives, children, friends of those in power and money abroad!!!
    1. aglet
      aglet 2 October 2022 13: 11
      -2
      "What a blow there!!! Relatives, children, friends of those in power and money abroad!!!"
      Well, if you know all this, why are you voting for Edro?
  32. FoBoss_V
    FoBoss_V 2 October 2022 13: 06
    -1
    Unfortunately, the eggs of our Supreme have long dried up and fell off. Like honor and conscience
    1. sheet
      sheet 2 October 2022 15: 39
      0
      Quote: FoBoss_V
      Unfortunately, the eggs of our Supreme have long dried up and fell off. Like honor and conscience

      You find your peas, not to mention your honor and conscience, "defender-scribbler" with a delay.
  33. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 2 October 2022 13: 07
    0
    Who will tell you what gas is in Europe now? hi
  34. razv35
    razv35 2 October 2022 13: 20
    -1
    If they could, they would have hit long ago. All this is similar to complacency and not a desire to look at events objectively.
  35. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 2 October 2022 13: 24
    -1
    The guarantor's gut is thin .. Disappointed
  36. Dizel200
    Dizel200 2 October 2022 13: 24
    0
    We rushed about. It became squishy. And when they did their dirty work, they didn’t think.
  37. Horn
    Horn 2 October 2022 13: 59
    0
    Russia can do a lot. But it is limited to complaints to the UN and threats to "strike at the decision-making centers." But there are no people with balls in the government. Botox is poison. It affects everything.
  38. rotfuks
    rotfuks 2 October 2022 14: 03
    0
    It is strange that in connection with the undermining of gas pipelines, experts do not mention other interested countries. These are Ukraine and Poland. Both states have a fleet and both Ukraine and Poland are technically capable of delivering 100 kg of explosives to the depth of the gas pipeline. The Americans, with their swampiness, would have acted at greater depths.
  39. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 2 October 2022 14: 11
    -4
    Russia may strike at American infrastructure

    Well, yes, Lavrov will take care. They won't hit their own.
    1. aglet
      aglet 2 October 2022 14: 21
      -4
      "Well, yes, Lavrov will take care. They won't hit their own."
      well, perhaps, in Voronezh laughing
  40. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 2 October 2022 14: 59
    0
    Whatever one may say, this "Western jamb" with the blowing up of gas pipelines cannot be left unanswered. The question is where, when and how we will answer?
  41. certero
    certero 2 October 2022 17: 03
    0
    Everyone already knows that Russia can only "express concern" and "draw red lines"
    It didn't start today. It started when Russian athletes agreed to compete under the white flag. Then it became clear that the main thing in our country is money, and everything else is garbage.
    When sanctions were imposed on us, and the authorities in response mumbled about "partners", then it became clear that you can do whatever you want.
    On February 24, the West was frightened for a while, believing that Russia's patience had run out, but then realized that no, the same "red lines" on which everything was laid.
    If they had shot down one plane in Western weapons in March 2022, there would have been no exploded streams. And so you can reach the atomic bombs, constantly retreating.
  42. pleschakovai
    pleschakovai 2 October 2022 17: 27
    -1
    How much can you endure and endure humiliation from the United States? Stop mumbling and denigrating the Soviet Union, humiliating ordinary Russians and villagers, enough, we've had enough! Such the wildest meanness of the grandfather of "sleepy and sick Joe" Zephina Biden! Be Americans damned forever and ever with your unrestrained liberalism and shitocracy. How many countries and peoples are suffering from your arrogance and liquidation of "regimes" that do not please you! Only your regime turns out to be the most "correct" and most "decent" in the world community! Enough power, enough to kowtow to these "partners"! That's not how partners do it. They really liked the traitor of the USSR, the great talker and talker Gorbachev, who sold himself to SATAN and THE DEVIL!!! They really liked the dancing drunkard Yeltsin, who ruined our great country, with his blessing of America, who also sold out to SATAN and THE DEVIL!!! am angry stop
  43. ChoroKyrgyz
    ChoroKyrgyz 2 October 2022 19: 19
    +1
    Does not attack, the gut of the chipboard has not "thickened" for so many years of humiliation. And even then the Iranians are much more, launched missiles at their base. For some reason, China and Russia are pissing, but both together even pissing. I don’t want a big war, but they could show that they are not soft-assed.
  44. Vlad world
    Vlad world 2 October 2022 21: 46
    0
    Ours won't do anything. So just wipe off the northern streams.
    That's when the South Streams blow up and then there will be concern.
    The answer marker is the presence of electricity in Ukraine. That's when there will be no electricity in Ukraine, then it was decided to beat. And before that, you can be indignant and pour out indignation as much as you like.
    And the South Streams are next in line.
  45. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 3 October 2022 08: 57
    -1
    Russia can do a lot. The Russian leadership CANNOT ANYTHING. This has been shown in the last 8 months.
  46. Visher
    Visher 3 October 2022 10: 04
    +1
    I read and understand, they write on emotions. Emotionally, a man is a headless horseman. We would, there would be, tactical nuclear weapons.
    Headless horsemen and strikers, etc. supporters of rash actions.
    Open terror and hostilities will lead any country to rally around a leader, as we have in the Russian Federation and then we will have to deal with a more monolithic enemy, this is an order of magnitude harder.
    The fable with pipes in the sea must be investigated in such a way that the materials of the investigation of the prosecutor's office and the FSB are convincing and reliable for Germany and France. Germany and France will calculate the answer to the guilty and those involved, the answer will be, these 2 countries have torn Libya to rags for much less money than the immigration of their industry to other countries. If it turns out that it was the Americans who, through the British, made their way through the Polish seiner with the swimmers of the Ukrainian Black Sea Fleet, France and Germany themselves will tear NATO into rags. The task of the Russian Federation is to help them with the materials of the investigation. No wonder the Swedes and Danes do not let the BND and the FSB into the zone of explosions. The Americans explained to the Swedes and Danes that the feathers of them will fly over anyone because they crap themselves in their area of ​​​​responsibility. The Swedes and Danes have information about the fuss around the pipes, they will hide the data from everyone, including the Germans and the French, and even more so from us.
    Now the situation is not ripe, the pro-American governments of Germany and France still refuse to believe in the immigration of the industry, until the industry begins to collect manatki (engineers, production, capital) and move to the states, China or Russia.
    Scholz and Macron understand that without industry, their countries will become banana republics.
  47. Cheburek
    Cheburek 3 October 2022 11: 24
    -6
    In order to be able to do something, you must first stop walking under yourself out of fear. (folk wisdom)
  48. wandlitz
    wandlitz 3 October 2022 19: 12
    0
    "Russia may attack American infrastructure in response to blowing up two gas pipelines"...
    Maybe, of course it can. But he won't do it.
  49. Voronezh
    Voronezh 4 October 2022 07: 35
    -2
    Russia cannot hit anything... We are decent, we comply with agreements and rules. We can’t even drown out AWACS with something that has no analogues ....