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The Russian Armed Forces attacked military facilities in Krivoy Rog with Geran-2 kamikaze drones

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The Russian Armed Forces attacked military facilities in Krivoy Rog with Geran-2 kamikaze drones

Russian troops launched a series of attacks on Ukrainian military installations in the depths of the country, this time the target was Krivoy Rog, it was there that an air raid alert was announced at night. According to local publics, the Russian military used Geran-2 kamikaze drones, which Kyiv persistently calls Iranian Shahed-136 drones.


As reported, on the night from Saturday to Sunday, "arrived" in Krivoy Rog. One drone worked at a military facility located on the territory of the city, at least according to eyewitnesses of the strike who filmed the video. What exactly acted as the target is unknown, perhaps these are critical infrastructure facilities or those related to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The city administration confirms the hit, the message says that the drone attacked an object in the city center, but the rest of the information is hidden. At night, a fire was visible over the city, which arose after being hit by a drone.

It should be noted that in recent years, Geran-2 drones have become one of the main types of high-precision weaponsused by the Russian army to strike at military targets deep in the enemy's defenses. In recent weeks, with the help of kamikaze drones, several raids have been carried out on Odessa, Ochakov, and Krivoy Rog. At the end of September, a massive raid was even recorded, in which up to twenty Geran-2 and Lancet drones took part. Odessa and Ochakov were hit at the same time.

As reported, "Gerani" worked on the 66th artillery battalion of the 406th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, destroying artillery pieces and an ammunition depot, and "Lancets" hit air defense installations, headquarters and fuel storage facilities. After this raid, Zelensky demanded to urgently strengthen the air defense of Odessa by sending additional anti-aircraft systems there, in particular the German ZSU Gepard.

The Geranium-2 drone is a rather difficult object for air defense, despite a wingspan of 2,5 meters and a weight of 200 kg. The drone is made using composite materials and is capable of climbing to a height of up to 7,5 km. The only thing that gives it away is the sound of the engine, which is quite loud.

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  1. gansales
    gansales 2 October 2022 08: 46
    -13
    Well, that's good! They say it seems that factories for the production of similar drones are being launched in Russia, something under 100 pieces per day ..
    We'll see !
    1. Foundling
      Foundling 2 October 2022 08: 48
      -2
      For a year now, they have been launching something like in Krondshtat.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 2 October 2022 08: 55
        0
        Quote: Foundling
        For a year now, they have been launching something like in Krondshtat.

        So the Stilettos. And this is the Shahids. Everyone has already talked about them. Everything is with Ali, and the glider is filled with epoxy and vpirat to nightmare the APU
        1. fa2998
          fa2998 2 October 2022 11: 09
          +6
          Quote: Tusv
          And this is the Shahids.

          I looked at "Shahid-136" - nothing special, that a country with a "2 army of the world" could not build something like that? After all, this is not the T-14 and Su-57! What the hell is this "device" to bring from Iran (From Iran Karl !!)
          and call Geranium-2.???
          And again, no one is to blame, everyone will receive orders. We would kick out with a wolf ticket who is responsible for our new developments! We won’t send Fedya into space, we’ll smash the Russian Post quadrocopter, and we’ll show the Dog with a grenade launcher at the exhibition! Money goes nowhere! angry hi
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 2 October 2022 11: 21
            +3
            The Hussite campaign must be taken to Our Moscow Region. They collect these Shahedas on their knees. And by the way, they have also been fighting for more than 7 years
            1. suhorukofal
              suhorukofal 2 October 2022 21: 57
              0
              Moreover, it is even difficult to calculate how many of them are under sanctions, and under those that our leadership never dreamed of in terrible dreams. It is necessary to adopt the experience of organizational work, whoever would impose such sanctions on our government for greater effectiveness. A joke, of course, but only a small part
          2. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 2 October 2022 12: 24
            +6
            I looked at "Shahid-136" - nothing special, that a country with a "2 army of the world" could not build something like that? After all, this is not the T-14 and Su-57!
            That's just it, that it can't - it's too cheap, you can't get a lot of rollback.
            1. fa2998
              fa2998 2 October 2022 13: 14
              +1
              But UAVs are needed! We either buy in Israel or in Iran, but we “develop” it is not known what. Fast-moving Warriors, Dogs with Avito with a grenade launcher, armored cars (I have already lost count, more than a dozen models in recent years) ... But we don’t touch “ours”. There, for many, a blunt saw in the taiga is already crying. angry hi
          3. SKVichyakow
            SKVichyakow 2 October 2022 16: 56
            0
            Quote: fa2998
            Money goes nowhere!

            Why nowhere? Somewhere, after all, they settle down. Check all the dachas of the generals, mansions, and from them it will be possible to determine who is who, and where the people's money goes.
        2. flicker
          flicker 2 October 2022 12: 15
          0
          For a year now, they have been launching something like in Krondshtat.
          Even before the start of the SVO (in February), the general director and general designer of Kronstadt were relieved of their posts.
      2. Thrifty
        Thrifty 2 October 2022 09: 22
        +10
        I wonder why, under Krasny Liman, they were not used en masse in terms of manpower and the technique of sushniks?
        1. Foundling
          Foundling 2 October 2022 10: 30
          +3
          Using these drones against infantry is not very effective, I think! And Krasny Lyman testifies to the depletion of our group in Ukraine. We must already take off our rose-colored glasses and, based on the results of many months, admit that not only the shock, but also the defensive forces of the group are practically exhausted. It would be nice to understand this in March, but yes, it makes sense to discuss it. The call of 300 thousand with the technical support and training that is now capable of changing the situation at the front? Here is the question. And immediately the second question; "if not, what needs to be done for the Victory? Is the government ready to sacrifice not only citizens, but also its political ambitions, its well-being, including financial ones, its life, finally, TOGETHER with the people, for the sake of the declared goals. Answer to the last question will determine the outcome of this war.
        2. Dkuznecov
          Dkuznecov 3 October 2022 00: 18
          0
          Because the party came with GPS, no cameras,
          of which there (matrices) as many as 5 pieces can be.
          The purpose of this batch of Tehrans is to hit points on the map.
      3. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 2 October 2022 09: 37
        +4
        This company is called "Kronstadt". Production in the Moscow region
    2. SaLaR
      SaLaR 2 October 2022 08: 50
      -1
      Quote from gansales
      Well, that's good! They say it seems that factories for the production of similar drones are being launched in Russia, something under 100 pieces per day ..
      We'll see !

      They say they milk chickens in Moscow .....
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 2 October 2022 09: 05
        -3
        Quote: SaLaR
        They say they milk chickens in Moscow .....

        Not well. From it labor))) And they carry golden testicles. 150 re for ten
      2. ilya.muromczev2013
        ilya.muromczev2013 2 October 2022 09: 22
        +2
        Actually, the saying is simple: "They say that chickens are milked." Why did they drag Moscow in? Do not love?:)...
        1. for
          for 2 October 2022 11: 42
          0
          Quote: ilya.muromczev2013
          Actually, the saying is simple: "They say that chickens are milked." Why did they drag Moscow in? Do not love?:)...

          Actually, it's a proverb. "And in Ryazan, mushrooms with eyes." Rhyme.
          1. ilya.muromczev2013
            ilya.muromczev2013 3 October 2022 03: 38
            0
            I have never heard what is going on with mushrooms in Ryazan - I do not argue that, maybe, once the saying sounded like that. But, I have been living for 77 years, and I have not heard that Moscow was mentioned in the proverb about milking chickens. "They say that chickens are milked" - this is how it is better known (and used) ...
            1. for
              for 3 October 2022 07: 16
              0
              Quote: ilya.muromczev2013
              But, I have been living for 77 years, and I have not heard that Moscow was mentioned in the proverb about milking chickens.

              It's bad, you need to know folklore.
    3. Silver99
      Silver99 2 October 2022 08: 57
      +17
      At first I did not believe what I read, one drone struck? And this is the answer for the shelling already in fact of Russian territories? It’s not even funny, I wanted to see in the morning in the news about the departure and work of strategic aviation, just don’t talk about the air defense system of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, if we are not able to suppress it and overcome it at our borders, then what’s the point of sending strategists across the North Pole, it’s more perfect there air defense. In general, we are waiting for real actions, not beautiful words at rallies.
      1. Astra55
        Astra55 2 October 2022 09: 13
        +7
        And thanks for that.
        Or they could arrange another concert in Moscow. With fireworks. In honor of .... well, it doesn't matter in honor of what. wassat
        Ours does not like symmetrical answers.
        In our country, until the enemy begins to examine Moscow through binoculars, they don’t really start to fight.
      2. ilya.muromczev2013
        ilya.muromczev2013 2 October 2022 09: 24
        -5
        If I were you, I would hang myself from grief :) ...
    4. neworange88
      neworange88 2 October 2022 09: 51
      +2
      Quote from gansales
      Well, that's good! They say it seems that factories for the production of similar drones are being launched in Russia, something under 100 pieces per day ..
      We'll see !


      Cheap and angry. It was the BBP (loitering ammunition) Shahed-136 that was used by the Houthis to strike at the oil industry in Saudi Arabia. And the Patriot air defense systems could not cope with them. that they can be assembled in conditions of almost semi-handicraft production. Its production can be quickly organized. Composite body made of fiberglass that is hardly noticeable on the radar screen. It can be made in a simple production. A fairly simple control and guidance system. 136-cylinder piston engine, carburetor (136 carburetors), air-cooled, two-stroke (with oil in gasoline). Power 4 hp. The Chinese engine is sold on ALI. And the Iranians make it themselves. It is very cheap. This BBP is on radar practically invisible. good

      In the last week, the RF Armed Forces began to actively use the Iranian Shahed-136 loitering ammunition, adopted by us under the name Geran-2. By the way, the word shahed (not to be confused with shahid) is translated from Persian as a witness. This is a new Iranian UAV, presented only in 2020. The device boasts an impressive flight range for such a class of weapons - up to 2000 km, according to the Iranian side.
      Geranium flies at altitudes from 60 to 4000 meters, though at a very low speed for an aircraft - only 180 km / h, which makes it a fairly simple target for air defense systems. According to various sources, the mass of the UAV warhead is from 36 to 50 kg.

      https://dzen.ru/media/wt1/chto-predstavliaet-soboi-novyi-rossiiskii-iranskii-bpla-geran2-63329bcbcdf42176e3a809ef
    5. Sergey Kuzmin
      Sergey Kuzmin 2 October 2022 10: 38
      -2
      They say it seems that factories for the production of similar drones are being launched in Russia, something under 100 pieces per day ...
      It is noteworthy that the Russian Geran-2 kamikaze drones are stubbornly called Iranian drones in Kyiv. For us, as they say, "at least call it a pot ... if only the fat-Ukrnatsi-ops are afraid ..."
    6. Bulgarian_5
      Bulgarian_5 2 October 2022 10: 41
      +5
      Okay, I just have 1 question:

      Why didn't Gerani's children work around the Liman around the clock?
      1. neworange88
        neworange88 2 October 2022 11: 04
        +4
        Because everything was reported upstairs in style, everything is fine, beautiful marquise, everything is fine, everything is fine.
      2. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 2 October 2022 14: 48
        0
        Quote: Bulgarian_5
        Okay, I just have 1 question:

        Why didn't Gerani's children work around the Liman around the clock?

        Because GOS, these particular UAVs are not equipped! And they can only hit stationary targets with known coordinates.
        As far as I know, Shahed has several guidance methods, according to the coordinates of GPS or other satellite systems and with optical and possibly other seekers. There are optical seekers, but very few, due to the fact that Iran is under sanctions.
        As far as I understand, the RF Armed Forces use the mod. without GOS, i.e. "Geran" is actually a cruise missile for the poor, a maximum retargetable low-speed missile in flight.
  2. Foundling
    Foundling 2 October 2022 08: 47
    0
    Was it an "asymmetric answer"?
    1. St54
      St54 2 October 2022 09: 19
      0
      It looks like YES. Well, very asymmetrical.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 October 2022 08: 47
    +7
    Russian military used kamikaze drones "Geran-2"
    Which day there are reports of the use of these drones, and effectively. This means that today their reserves are available, and due to the effectiveness of their use, they will be replenished. And, frankly, it doesn’t matter where and by whom they are made, because. The main thing is that they cause significant damage to the enemy.
    1. Sergey Kuzmin
      Sergey Kuzmin 2 October 2022 10: 42
      +6
      Which day there are reports of the use of these drones, and effectively ...
      Only something was not heard about their use in the Krasno-Limansky direction. But there it would be very worthwhile to use them against the same auto-raid coming out...
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 2 October 2022 14: 49
        0
        Because GOS, these particular UAVs are not equipped! And they can only hit stationary targets with known coordinates.
        As far as I know, Shahed has several guidance methods, according to the coordinates of GPS or other satellite systems and with optical and possibly other seekers. There are optical seekers, but very few, due to the fact that Iran is under sanctions.
        As far as I understand, the RF Armed Forces use the mod. without GOS, i.e. "Geran" is actually a cruise missile for the poor, a maximum retargetable low-speed missile in flight.
  4. SaLaR
    SaLaR 2 October 2022 08: 48
    +20
    But you can’t use a couple of Geraniums on Rublev’s huts .... Maybe then in Moscow they will find out that, in fact, Russian cities are surrendering to the enemy, the army is retreating ...The enemy is trampling the Russian land!!
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 2 October 2022 09: 22
      +3
      There are many places like this in Russia. No need to get hung up on Rublyovka. Moreover, the main 5th column has long gone over the hill or to separate palaces.
      On Rublyovka there was a pot-bellied trifle.
    2. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 2 October 2022 10: 57
      -1
      The enemy initially tramples on the Russian land, because part of the Donbass was not liberated at all
  5. t200404
    t200404 2 October 2022 08: 59
    +4
    Why write this? The only thing that can be trusted now is a specific liberated NP with photo proof.
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 2 October 2022 08: 59
    +13
    This is good, but maybe it’s enough to stab with swords, it’s time to lay a rug of FABs under the same Estuary instead of retreating, it’s a shame in front of people. Ponty on Manezhnaya we beat, and in the Donbass we retreat.
    1. Magog_
      Magog_ 2 October 2022 09: 17
      +3
      Ponty on the Manezhnaya pound
      And the obligatory, downright holy, advertising shouting for "consumers" on the air of programs about the horrors of shelling, civilian casualties and, as always, "huge losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine" ...
  7. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 2 October 2022 09: 07
    -3
    Russian Armed Forces Strike With Kamikaze Drones "Geranium-2" on military installations in Krivoy Rog

    ***
    - "At his horns and between him" ...


    ***
  8. O. Bender
    O. Bender 2 October 2022 09: 15
    +6
    Why weren’t strikes carried out on the concentration of forces in the Liman direction, the effectiveness of such strikes would seem to me to be quite high. And yes, strikes at rear targets with geraniums or calibers make a difference? Judging by the difference in the power of warheads, the caliber is clearly more effective. Geraniums are much more successful they would have worked on the crossings, which xx had brought quite a few, ensuring a quick dispersal of forces and means in the Liman direction. and on the territory of Russia, plugging holes with mobilized ones is another matter. There is not enough time, it’s not enough to put on shoes, put them into operation, and you also need to carry out combat coordination. Alternatively, already existing units should be understaffed with mobilized with experience in some not large quantities.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 2 October 2022 09: 23
      +4
      Why, why. Our generals do not like advanced strategy and technology. They prefer the chain attack.
      1. saigon
        saigon 2 October 2022 09: 28
        +1
        But didn’t the generals believe in the holy BTG and the word division is not used?.
        And it’s forbidden to fight in divisions.
    2. Magog_
      Magog_ 2 October 2022 09: 36
      +3
      Why were no strikes on the concentration of forces
      How do you imagine such blows? How is Zhukov doing: 3000 heavy artillery barrels per kilometer of front? In the case of a "normal" war with NATO, this is TNW. And then, the enemy does not collect all the forces in one place, but tries to keep them dispersed, and units are introduced into battle synchronously from different locations in the chosen direction of attack. It is more important here to deprive the enemy of communication so that there is no possibility of control. Where are our vaunted electronic warfare?
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 2 October 2022 12: 59
        0
        Quote: Magog_
        Why were no strikes on the concentration of forces
        How do you imagine such blows?

        Knock out artillery and tanks. For Gerani, those very goals are one hit and one gun or tank in the trash.
        1. Magog_
          Magog_ 2 October 2022 13: 51
          0
          For Geranium, those very goals
          Under 50 kg of TNT for a tank or gun - too much. Half a kilo on top is enough. You also need to find a tank or a weapon that is not openly standing - hidden or disguised. It's another matter on the march, but it's still necessary to catch the moment and not to miss the moving one ... "Geranium". So far, we see that this miracle weapon is hitting fixed objects of medium and large size that have been identified... We have identified a warehouse - get a portion, poorly hidden a boat or plane in a hangar - there too.
    3. Alex 2019
      Alex 2019 2 October 2022 09: 37
      +3
      Because we have some dol ... in the Moscow Region, still need to explain?
  9. maxim1987
    maxim1987 2 October 2022 09: 15
    +3
    "good" request answer for leaving the RUSSIAN city of Krasny Lyman
  10. Buyan
    Buyan 2 October 2022 09: 28
    +2
    Buzzing, flying right on target. It doesn't matter what they are called - the main thing is the result. If necessary, buy more stocks
  11. ilya.muromczev2013
    ilya.muromczev2013 2 October 2022 09: 32
    +1
    You read some alarmists (who, of course, consider themselves patriots), and you think: in the first two years of the Great Patriotic War - such truth-seekers from whom "the authorities hid the truth and lied" (such as "From Moscow to the British Seas, the Red Army is the strongest" ) - would they have been shot immediately, or sent to the Gulag for 20 years? (Without the right to correspond on the Internet) ...
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 2 October 2022 09: 39
      +1
      Ilyamikhaylovich 2013 - are you ready to give our lands to the enemy further? Name the line where you think we will turn the tide! Just do not forget that they turn each city into a fortified area, which we then take for months, while suffering heavy losses in manpower and equipment. So where are we going to start taking back the abandoned lands?
    2. Paul
      Paul 2 October 2022 09: 42
      +4
      If the government was Soviet, then no one here would be worried. There is a war going on with the Ukrainians and something can be done there, and there is also a war with the leaders-generals-BOONS and in this war the people have no weapons - they are simply beaten with the most terrible ammunition - INDIFFERENCE and STUPIDITY.
      1. Magog_
        Magog_ 2 October 2022 11: 08
        +3
        If the power was Soviet
        I also come to the conclusion that victory in such a war is only possible for a state with a sane social ideology of the Soviet type. Without an ideology, the state degenerates into a banal instrument of robbery, which cannot inspire society to achieve military victories.
  12. Lis_Domino
    Lis_Domino 2 October 2022 09: 33
    +5
    well, they poked around Odessa, poked around Krivoy Rog - and what?
    the Ukrainians will fix something, patch something up, the Americans will give them a ride in return, and what?
    shouldn't such strikes be carried out BEFORE an offensive operation?
    where is the attack on Odessa? where is the attack on Krivoy Rog? there is NO campaign of some kind of meaningful tactics for using ammunition - they poke according to the situation (probably half of the "objects" are just a dummy and a cardboard fool) the ammunition is wasted
  13. Alex 2019
    Alex 2019 2 October 2022 09: 35
    +3
    Now they will feed sweet pills to society in order to smooth out the bitterness of defeat, and the information is so-so about nothing, statistics and nothing more.
  14. time112
    time112 2 October 2022 09: 41
    -1
    So is it our UAV, or is it Iranian ???
    1. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 2 October 2022 09: 57
      +3
      So is it our UAV, or is it Iranian ???

      ***

      “When a country acquires any weapons from us or from any other country, it ceases to be Turkish, Russian or Ukrainian. That is, as soon as they bought weapons from us, they ceased to be Turkish. ”, —
      Turkish Foreign Minister Cavusoglu.

      ***
  15. yuriy55
    yuriy55 2 October 2022 09: 43
    +2
    These "complex" objects for the appearance of high results require at least a hundred per day (according to military analysts - about a thousand). It is this tactic that will free the RF Armed Forces from the use of weapons of great destructive power. Will the mobilized industry be able to provide such supplies, or will payment play the main role here? I have no idea how the deliveries of missiles, shells, cartridges, mines, fuels and lubricants are going on ... Does anyone know? Or - there is no money and you hold on there as best you can?
    1. Vladimir Michailovich
      Vladimir Michailovich 2 October 2022 10: 24
      +3
      With the preservation of the current political system, it will not be able to. Engines for small aircraft and UAVs have long been developed and ready for production, for example, at the Voronezh VMZ, an order was not followed for all aircraft models and UAVs are being imported.
  16. DimchiK
    DimchiK 2 October 2022 09: 43
    0
    [quote = rotmistr60] [quote] ... And, frankly, it doesn’t matter where and by whom they are made, because the main thing is that they cause significant damage to the enemy. [/ Quote]
    Yeah, in the XNUMXs they also said that about airplanes, but there’s nothing to fly on. And if it weren’t for Iran, would they throw the hats of Rostec on the enemy?
  17. Piramidon
    Piramidon 2 October 2022 09: 48
    +1
    Quote: Thrifty
    I wonder why, under Krasny Liman, they were not used en masse in terms of manpower and the technique of sushniks?

    These drones are designed to destroy stationary objects
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 2 October 2022 12: 07
      +3
      Pyramidon - ammunition depots, artillery in firing positions, RSZO in places of bombing - shelters, what is this if not stationary objects ???
  18. VT
    VT 2 October 2022 09: 59
    0
    If our highest leadership does not begin to work effectively, then the question is, why is it actually needed in principle. Given that there is no political competition, all this can result in a senseless and merciless rebellion.
  19. air wolf
    air wolf 2 October 2022 10: 09
    +1
    And where are the promised swarms of unmanned vehicles? I think that it makes no sense to launch less than a dozen for the accumulation of equipment, and their price is not like the calibers that can be shot down with a searinger, and the consumption per day should be up to 100 pieces, then the banders will start to piss at the sound of a gas trimmer. laughing
  20. Clear
    Clear 2 October 2022 10: 19
    +2
    At a military facility located on the territory of the city, he worked one UAV
    Oh, and news. Well, anyway.
  21. Vladimir Michailovich
    Vladimir Michailovich 2 October 2022 10: 20
    0
    Quote: O. Bender
    Why weren’t strikes carried out on the concentration of forces in the Liman direction, the effectiveness of such strikes would seem to me to be quite high. And yes, strikes at rear targets with geraniums or calibers make a difference? Judging by the difference in the power of warheads, the caliber is clearly more effective. Geraniums are much more successful they would have worked on the crossings, which xx had brought quite a few, ensuring a quick dispersal of forces and means in the Liman direction. and on the territory of Russia, plugging holes with mobilized ones is another matter. There is not enough time, it’s not enough to put on shoes, put them into operation, and you also need to carry out combat coordination. Alternatively, already existing units should be understaffed with mobilized with experience in some not large quantities.

    Most likely, the enemy has concentrated a large number of electronic warfare and air defense assets in the offensive area, including UAVs constantly loitering in the air to control the air situation. In addition, Geranium is designed to strike at stationary objects with coordinates known in advance (if there is no UAV of the target designator leader).
  22. Petr_Koldunov
    Petr_Koldunov 2 October 2022 10: 52
    +4
    It's all beautiful and important (no kidding)...
    But what about the Russian cities that the Nazis recapture from the legitimate Russian government and occupy by introducing occupying troops there?
    Will they beat out this fascist evil spirits from there?
    1. Lis_Domino
      Lis_Domino 2 October 2022 11: 03
      +2
      this is not surrender, this is a gesture of goodwill with redeployment to better positions.
      don't believe? Ask Konashenkov.
  23. Igor K
    Igor K 2 October 2022 11: 41
    +1
    You need to do something with the acoustic signature:
    1. We need fine-tuning of the engine, we need normal exhaust gases with damping of the acoustic signature
    2. Install an electric motor with the possibility of firing an internal combustion engine.
    At the dive stage, powder engines are needed for short-term acceleration.
  24. Carlos Hall
    Carlos Hall 2 October 2022 12: 05
    +2
    The Iranian drones are one of the few positive steps taken by the high command to remedy some shortcomings in the supply of weapons. But I'm not entirely sure how they are used, and I'm wondering if they wouldn't be better thrown against Ukrainian artillery and tanks.
    1. Igor K
      Igor K 2 October 2022 15: 16
      0
      You need to suppress first of all:
      1. Control points
      2. Air defense (we have an advantage in aviation that we cannot fully realize)
      3. Means of fire influence of the enemy
      4. Warehouses of ammunition and fuel
      This must be hit first of all, tanks have something to destroy.
      But first of all, intelligence is needed through UAVs, the enemy has an advantage in intelligence due to data provided by the United States and the countries of the NATO bloc.
  25. Dargavs
    Dargavs 2 October 2022 12: 17
    +1
    Quote: Igor K
    You need to do something with the acoustic signature:

    Such modernization will lead to a rise in price, and the main advantage of this device is cheapness, this is where our miscalculation, there are no competent economists, to choose the maximum benefit with minimal costs.
  26. Armen Sologyan
    Armen Sologyan 2 October 2022 12: 32
    +2
    The best thing to do. Do not send soldiers and officers to attack, but attack with kamikaze drones and perhaps get the SBU with the Dagger, where the Tsrushniks and Sbushniks dug in.
  27. Dost
    Dost 2 October 2022 20: 57
    -1
    It seems that Russia is running out of tactical missiles. Therefore, they switched to Geranium. Sorry people and time.
  28. Fangaro
    Fangaro 2 October 2022 21: 24
    -1
    If this is our Geranium, then why do they consider it a Shaheed?
    If these are turned Martyrs - why should we call our Geranium?