Blinken promised Kyiv US assistance in regaining control over the "occupied territories"

The United States will help Ukraine in "returning the territories," such a promise was given to Kyiv by the head of the US State Department, Anthony Blinken. The US Secretary of State's statement was circulated the day before by the State Department.

Blinken had a telephone conversation with Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba, in which he promised US assistance in restoring Ukraine's control over the "occupied territories." The head of the State Department stressed that the United States will never recognize the "annexation" of Ukrainian territories by Russia, therefore, it will continue to supply weapons to the Zelensky regime, as well as put pressure on Russia through sanctions and the help of other international institutions.

The Secretary reaffirmed President Biden's message that the United States will always respect Ukraine's internationally recognized borders, and we will continue to support Ukraine's efforts to regain control over its territories, strengthening its position both militarily and diplomatically.

- said in a widespread statement by the State Department.

Encouraged by Washington's promises, representatives of Kyiv have already made a number of "high-profile" statements regarding the "liberation" of the former territories of Ukraine. So the head of the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Kirill Budanov, promised to "return" to the Crimea, and with weapons and "soon." According to him, there is no other option, as soon as the Crimea is recaptured, from Ukraine.

He also made a forecast for the end of hostilities, saying that in the spring of next year the Armed Forces of Ukraine would reach the borders of Ukraine in 1991, and in the spring the “liberation” of Crimea would take place. He described the ongoing offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as "the beginning of the end of Russian aggression."

(...) this is not even the beginning of the end, this is a process that is in full swing

Budanov added.

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[belovvladimir]

Such belligerent words, you see, the United States specifically decided to fight to the last Ukrainian, that's where the two-faced ones really are, 100 kilotons are really not enough for Fashington and the Pentagon!

[Sergei V]

Here 10 for Kyiv, then the spirit is not enough, and you swung at 100 for Washington

[belovvladimir]

I mean from the bottom of my heart, I would have put it into action myself, I have already lived!

[Shurik70]

Only by 1944 did the USSR fully learn not to "stand as an indestructible wall", but to conduct full-fledged maneuver battles.
Retreat where there was a risk of heavy losses. Advance where it was beneficial. Support a neighbor in time, without waiting for a command from above.
I hope that now it will take less time (only hope is rather weak - until now, long-range artillery fire requires the sanction of the authorities, which sometimes takes hours).

[Turtle]

This means that it is necessary to recruit personnel from the Donetsk and Luhansk commanders in the General Staff - they have experience for as much as 8 years, and those who are now deciding - to unload trucks into the "five".

[Myths]

You have to start with landana. This is where the root of evil lies.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: Sergey V

10 for Kyiv, the spirit is not enough

What are the weaklings. You have to be a complete degenerate to want something like that. Tell me what else is not enough spirit, to blow up a nuclear power plant in Ukraine? Well, yes, any adequate person does not have enough spirit for such things.

[belovvladimir]

In Kyiv, it’s not necessary, especially in kilotons, there’s enough of the usual, in decision-making centers, to calculate the location of the ghouls and hit them, but in Fashington, it really itchs, once, and after only silence!

[suhorukofal]

Quote: belovvladimir

through the decision-making centers, calculate the location of the ghouls and hit

Do they even have these centers in Ukraine? It seems to me personally that those who do not make particularly important decisions in Ukraine, who will ask the slaves? Their job is to die for the good of the bright ideas of the West, which they do with joy.
Well, spreading radiation at your side is somehow not the best idea. Moreover, the number of dead, both military and civilian, will only go into the hands for the implementation of the policy "to fight to the last Ukrainian with Russia."
But as for Fashington, I completely agree, they are not a pity, they only look at us there, rubbing their hands, so there is parity both in thoughts and in deeds of the use of nuclear weapons.

[Turtle]

Well, don't tell me! Gamers even understand that if the mouse or keyboard is suddenly turned off during the game, the loss is guaranteed. I perceive the Kyiv government as a joystick in the hands of the United States.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: Turtle

when the mouse or keyboard suddenly turns off

And this is when playing with a seller in a computer store, which is surrounded by such a product. It is necessary to turn off the electricity, cut off the wiring, break the monitor, and pull the joysticks out of your hands. That is, these are ammunition depots, workshops, factories and other supply structures. Right now, judging by the cart, they began to hit the electrical substations of Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev, this is what needs to be done, plus bridges, supply routes, but this has already been said a hundred times

[guest]

Quote: suhorukofal

Right now, judging by the cart, they began to hit the electrical substations of Dnepropetrovsk, Nikolaev, this is what needs to be done, plus bridges, supply routes, but this has already been said a hundred times

This is all correct, of course, but why are such blows delivered only after heavy defeats, both near Kharkov and in Liman. It is necessary to deliver such strikes ahead of time, and most importantly, they should be daily and more intense.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: guest

but why are such blows delivered only after heavy defeats

I would say otherwise. Such defeats themselves are the result of the absence of such blows. It is impossible to defeat an adversary who will use all these pauses to build up his own forces and train additional reserves in NATO countries. Yes, and the losses incurred clearly do not bother the enemy, people on the other side are clearly not sorry, they can send at least a million for slaughter, which means they must be left without security. Well, this is in my opinion, a very important and interesting opinion.

[guest]

It's hard to argue with that, of course.

[suhorukofal]

In fact of the matter. Everyone and everyone understands, even people like me have already got rid of all the illusions that we were inspired in terms of the situation on the theater of operations. But I don’t understand what else needs to be done, what needs to happen so that our government finally changes its tactics in Ukraine and, in general, its policy in relations with the West? All these half-measures only drive us into a deep ... hole, while we show weakness, they strike us in response, and the further, the harder the blow.

[Ros 56]

And to hell with Kyiv 10 to throw, we still live there, and striped and 500 is not a pity.

[belovvladimir]

For 500 it’s not a pity, and who better than striped! really not sorry!
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[Turtle]

The British should be left a little, otherwise it's a shame: they tried so hard, but they are not taken "to share". The rest - muzzle in the mud, boots - on the back of the head and blow bubbles - only on command.

[Fitter65]

Quote: Sergey V

Here 10 for Kyiv, then the spirit is not enough, and you swung at 100 for Washington

100 for Washington is not a pity, Washington is on the other hemisphere. And 10 kilotons to Kyiv is a pity for its territory. Kyiv is nearby, and Chernobyl showed where radioactive fallout can fall. And do we need it?

[Foundling]

The bastard didn’t believe that: “we haven’t started yet”, I bought up all the first-aid kits and now I’m sure that “we have nothing to continue with.” But seriously, I think they just got away from fucking with the real state of the "army to overcome the English Channel." However, we also

[Thrifty]

With conventional bombs, take out the entire infrastructure, all bridges, power stations, enterprises! Otherwise, we will continue to "regroup" to the Urals!

[Cowbra]

Firstly, the direct speech of the Jew Blinkin, a descendant of the rabbi who fled from Kyiv from these banderlogs, the State Department was in a hurry to bring up - obviously there is about whose control it is blurted out that he is not Ukrainian))) And secondly

this is not even the beginning of the end, this is a process that is in full swing

It seems to me that the head of the GUR MO Budanov clearly sensed the end Having buried all the trained troops for the sake of the town three by 4 kilometers

[suhorukofal]

Quote: Cowbra

a descendant of those who fled from Kyiv precisely from these banderlogs of the rabbi

Not just runaways. His stepfather escaped from a concentration camp, and he considered the Russian (that's what he said) and the American army to be his liberators. This citizen will help in establishing control even throughout Europe. A worthy descendant dreams of returning to Europe the order of those times. Only instead of the Jews, now the Russians will soon offer orders in the form of a ghetto, sewn with stars of David. Well, yes, the matter will not stand up for them, real democratic media will inform who and which nation is to blame for everything and how to properly resolve the final national question with these untrmenches who dared not supply resources as they want, they turn off the gas, ruined the comfort in their homes, and in general they had the audacity to contradict their pure intentions and to have their own opinion.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: suhorukofal

Only instead of the Jews, now the Russians will soon offer orders in the form of a ghetto, sewn with stars of David.

They would like to force us to sew red stars.

For America, after all, until now we go exclusively in red blouses, Budyonnovkas, drunk and with balalaikas. And bears roam the streets in Moscow. Also drunk. Actually, a normal, typical portrait of a Russian in the eyes of the vast majority of Americans.

[suhorukofal]

Quote: Zoldat_A

a portrait of a Russian in the eyes of the vast majority of Americans.

You have too good an opinion about European education. We don't look better in their eyes. My close relatives often visited Europe (until recent events, of course), so there they didn’t really hide the disdain for Russian tourists, although France and Italy are still a viper in terms of service, even in the Czech Republic it’s better. And yes, the people are the same. That does not prevent our especially spiritually rich citizens from idolizing the West.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: suhorukofal

You have too good an opinion about European education. We don't look better in their eyes.

About the European idea of ​​us, my opinion differs little - it's just that the conversation turned to America.
I went to Europe with my wife, paid with MasterCard. In the presence of waiters and others, he was silent, pretending to be deaf and dumb. . The wife spoke to them in German (German is better spoken by Burbock) or in English (pass for a German speaking English). Therefore, in the same Italy or the Czech Republic, we were mistaken for wealthy Germans. . Well, the attitude was appropriate.
Naturally, it was, as you, Alexey, said,

Quote: suhorukofal

before recent events

Quote: suhorukofal

And yes, the people are the same. That does not prevent our especially spiritually rich citizens from idolizing the West.

Jeans, a tape recorder "Sharp 777" and other foreign "elements of the sweet life" I had in the early 80s (my father, an officer, brought from foreign business trips). The parents also had enough for sausage.
Therefore, even in the wake of the general euphoria of the late 80s and early 90s, I did not have any particular desire to "enter the civilized world community." It was not before that - the army, studying at the institute, work ...
And our "spiritually rich" remained brains somewhere in the illusions of 91. They have not matured in 30 years, and senile legs stick out of boy shorts.

[Fedor Sokolov]

Everything is possible, with our "good will", "regroupings" and "leveling the front" there is nothing to be surprised at.

[dmi.pris1]

From the cart. Disassembly began in the Moscow Region and the General Staff. However, it was already a similar leapfrog in history. In 1916-1917 .. How did we know

[Rustic]

From the cart. Disassembly began in the Moscow Region and the General Staff.

Are the beds rearranged again?

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Quote from Rustic

Are the beds rearranged again?

Yeah. Lapin will be made chief of staff of the RF Armed Forces, and Gerasimov will be made commander of the Arbat Military District.

[pyagomail.com]

In the spring of next year, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will reach the borders of Ukraine in 1991, and in the spring the "liberation" of Crimea will take place.

This, of course, is unlikely, although some aspects of the course of the NWO are disturbing.

[fa2998]

Help can be different. Maybe they will send a gun, or maybe a couple of divisions. You need to clarify!

[Old ensign]

This year, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are planning military operations already in the Crimea. They already have missiles to Himars, which they were on us at a distance of 150 km, where I will not write. In October there will be rockets with a radius of 300 km, they will probably fly along the junction where the Crimean bridge is Kerch, no one will shoot at the bridge itself.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

In the presence of a land bridge, the usual one has already lost its chic.
But the fact that it is necessary to demolish ALL airfields near dill is a fact.

[Cowbra]

Quote: Old ensign

which they were on us at a distance of 150 km, where I will not write

Ek, you have a fun life there ... How did the orderlies let them?
IPSOs have revived today, by the rain, probably, out, in all branches, they are already smiling)))

[Quote Lavrov]

Well, it's good that at least someone is having fun now.
That's just - laughter for no reason - a sign of you know what.
It is interesting, of course, what makes you smile so much - ok, nothing will fly to Kerch and Crimea, but what is already flying steadily in three regions of Russia (and now already in seven, and this is a little less than 10% of Russian subjects) does not count? Or does this also make you smile and these shellings that you identified so quickly were invented by agents of influence of the intelligence of Ukraine?

[Cowbra]

Because this Ukrainian is driving crap, and about Hymars who shot at 150 in Ukraine, and about the denouement of the bridge ... And you open your eyes, how many of them sharply identical appeared here - that's funny.
And what will fly in - so it was clear right away. Moreover, it would fly in any case. And what's more - it has already flown, and more than once, without any CBO. Few? so I'll tell you again - how not to reform and which army you don't change - WILL fly in. No air defense / missile defense catches 100%, but ours is working fine now, and divergence groups with a mortar are caught ... Most often after shelling, if they are caught. Thinking with your head is not destiny?
Now tell me, what did you see smart here among the all-propellers?

[Quote Lavrov]

I'll skip the pathos.
I’m interested in something else - why do you see the hysteria of “all-throwers” ​​in the description of risks?
Didn't talk from the first days about the insufficiency of forces and means? Did you talk about the need for mobilization? Did you talk about the excessive length of the front line? About the need to destroy infrastructure, leadership, communication lines, etc.?
And what turned out to be wrong?
And now Kadyrov himself, in your understanding, has turned out to be an "all-weather"?
Has it ever occurred to you that the solution to a problem ALWAYS begins with its recognition? The result of the tactics of licking the actions of the leadership - here it is, before our eyes. Does this tactic really help?

[Cowbra]

Quote: Quote Lavrov

Didn't talk from the first days about the insufficiency of forces and means? Did you talk about the need for mobilization?

So as not to write an article - no, they just DID NOT SAY. Everyone was exactly sure, incl. and then, that Ukraine has already swallowed ragouli.
About mobilization ... Do you understand in general what it is - transfer to a military footing? Well, for starters - you don’t have to write here anymore, the media at the VP is a radio station. Well, or now - it would be just a complete blocking of exits outside the Russian Federation, feasible. Even partial mobilization is a social crisis, if it was announced with a tip BEFORE the NWO or even while 20% of the territory was normally captured, then the blochers fleeing to Georgia would not whine, but everyone in general! This is a dream just for the United States - the transfer of the Russian economy to the VP, that is - its destruction. When did the reason appear? Only when there was a noticeable lack of strength - and this became clear 1-2 months ago.

[Quote Lavrov]

To whom are you telling this now? I myself wrote this almost from the first days on VO, as well as a huge number of colleagues on the site - about the need for mobilization !!! That 200 thousand is not an argument against a multi-million dollar mobile resource reinforced by propaganda. Yes, there were those who said that they could see better from above and figure it out without these tips. But most of them weren't.

[Leshak]

The Russian generals with their "strategic genius" themselves pour water on the mill of Ukrainian propaganda. In light of recent events, the ukrovermacht has perked up and considers itself invincible, and Western patrons will do everything possible to support this conviction.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Leshak

In the light of recent events, the ukrovermacht perked up and considers itself invincible, and Western patrons will do their best to support this conviction.

Winning a single battle does not mean winning the whole battle. We will debunk and punish because there simply cannot be other options for us, because they will devour us. If we got involved, now we have to push back to victory.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Winning a single battle does not mean winning the whole battle. We will debunk and punish because there simply cannot be other options for us, because they will devour us. If we got involved, now we have to push back to victory.

That Victory will be ours - it is clear ...
Another one is annoying - why do we have not only centuries-old traditions of victories, but also exactly the same traditions of "compressing the spring", retreating to the last extreme, in order to then strike from the heart, with all the proletarian hatred?
And immediately, without digressions "leveling the line of defense", without "compressing the spring", is it impossible to calculate strategy and tactics? If the General Staff cannot do this, then perhaps he is not doing his job?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Another one is annoying - why do we have not only centuries-old traditions of victories, but also exactly the same traditions of "compressing the spring", retreating to the last extreme, in order to then strike from the heart, with all the proletarian hatred?
And right away, without retreating "leveling the line of defense", without "compressing the spring", it is impossible to calculate strategy and tactics? If the General Staff cannot do this, then perhaps he is not doing his job?

I don't know Igor. Probably our blunder is that when the SVO was planned, it was not taken into account that mattresses and NATO members would fit in and, having opened an almost unlimited Lend Lease, they would begin to supply all the weapons and equipment to Ukropostan, up to toothpicks. We proceeded from the state and readiness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the time of the start of the operation. Now, we can say on the go, we are adjusting plans taking into account the new reality. BUT all the same, taking into account the adjustment, a new plan and a new tactic and a new strategy will be developed.
Probably not everything in our history is so obvious that it would be possible to give an unambiguous assessment to one or another political or military figure. On the one hand, Kutuzov could be quartered for surrendering Moscow to the French, and on the other hand, the same Kutuzov, soon after the events mentioned, told the Napoleonic parliamentarians in Fili that everything was just beginning and kicked Napoleon’s withers, practically reducing him to there is no his million-strong army, from which a little more than a hundred thousand survived. Kutuzov in both cases, I note, was the same.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Probably our blunder is that when the SVO was planned, it was not taken into account that mattresses and NATO members would fit in and, having opened an almost unlimited Lend Lease, they would begin to supply Ukropostan with all the weapons and equipment up to toothpicks.

I don’t know ... The General Staff, of course, knows better what to take into account and what not than to me from an armchair in my office or from a sofa at home. But I expected it to be even worse. To be honest, I did not count on the American and, say, the German regular army in Ukraine, but I somehow internally waited for the Poles and other Romanians. It is the army, not mercenaries.
And the deliveries "down to the toothpicks" were quite predictable. To organize and pay for a coup and eight years of war in the Donbass, and then "leave Ukraine at the mercy of the Russians" - this is throwing away the money already invested! And America never throws money away. And if today they have already deposited more than 60 lard of their money, then, in their opinion, the investments will not be wasted. The goal is worth it. It is clear that the purpose of these lards is not to save Ukraine. But to finish what was not completed in the 90s, to destroy Russia as a great state - in their opinion, it costs a lot more.

And further.

Quote: Nyrobsky

On the one hand, Kutuzov could be quartered for surrendering Moscow to the French, and on the other hand, the same Kutuzov, shortly after the events mentioned, told the Napoleonic parliamentarians in Fili that everything was just beginning and kicked Napoleon's withers

That’s all the hope is that today that same “spring” sooner or later, also traditionally for us, will get tired of contracting and hammering, according to Hooke’s law, so that for another 70 years the West will have enough bumps to heal and quietly grind teeth in the corners.

[gansales]

Quote: Leshak

The Russian generals with their "strategic genius" themselves pour water on the mill of Ukrainian propaganda.

To fight with the language is the easiest way! Especially when you are supported by the "world media under the control of the Jews" Right?

Quote: Leshak

In the light of recent events, the ukrovermacht perked up and considers itself invincible, and Western patrons will do everything possible to support this conviction

Well, what for her such a victory .. There, the losses are simply catastrophic! And the United States is simply powerless against Russia and we will achieve our goal and our goal is not the outskirts, but the collapse of NATO and the United States at all levels .. I hope everything will happen without a war!

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

So, is it time to use nuclear weapons? In a war of attrition with machine gun against machine gun, tank against tank, Russia cannot defeat the collective West, where the population is a billion people, and the economy is dozens of times more powerful than the Russian economy. Without the use of nuclear weapons, we will not win the war with the West, which uses Ukraine simply as a training ground for war. Kadyrov is already openly saying that it is necessary to start using nuclear weapons, and I understand him. If nuclear weapons are not used, then why is it needed at all? Enemies must see that our hand will not falter to hit the enemy with nuclear weapons, only in this case they will stop climbing on us.

[Pulkovo1942]

with a machine gun against a machine gun, a tank against a tank

You shouldn't put an equal sign here. Better this way: to fight with a machine gun against a machine gun with body kits, a tank against tanks with KAZ, etc. Many classes of military equipment do not exist at all.

[Quote Lavrov]

Colleague, did the "save" button light up on your screen somewhere and do you use it to the fullest? Together with relatives, friends, but just with hundreds of millions of people around?
We got out of the situation of the summer of 1941 without nuclear weapons, but do you want the possible lack of political will and the probable incompetence of the command, corruption in the preparation of the country (value judgment) to fill with nuclear strikes?
Are you out of your mind? Or do you think that the same people who led to the current situation, having the opportunity to use nuclear weapons, will show themselves from the most beautiful side?
So I will upset you - they will not show themselves otherwise, neither you nor anyone in this world has a "Reload" button, therefore - return to the real world and do not rush the approach of its end.
We can fix everything by other means.

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Quote: Quote Lavrov

We got out of the situation in the summer of 1941 without nuclear weapons

That is, instead of using nuclear weapons and a quick victory, do you want a long-term meat grinder and 27 million victims among Russian citizens, like in that war? Are you really that? Or do you think that if a total war starts, then you and your relatives will not be mobilized personally and thrown under American tanks, artillery and aircraft? Burn Kuiv and everything! A dozen megaton warheads is enough.

[Quote Lavrov]

Well, if we are talking about what I want, then I will answer - I want politicians and oligarchs, having 30 years behind them and excellent, family ties between fraternal peoples at that time, would not lead us to what we have now.

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Quote: Quote Lavrov

I want our politicians and oligarchs, having 30 years behind them and excellent, family ties between fraternal peoples at that time, would not lead us to what we have now

We already have what we have, it’s impossible to turn back, and it’s also impossible to stop the war, the longer we delay, the more Western assistance to Ukraine will increase, in a year it will already be Niagara, in comparison with which modern Western supplies will seem like a thin stream. It can be recalled that half of the Lend-Lease in the USSR arrived in 1944, in 1942 Lend-Lease deliveries were negligible, even in half a year in 1945 they delivered more than in 1941-1943 combined. The more we get involved in positional battles and let American aid to Ukraine sway, the worse it will be. Recall how the Germans in 1940 rolled out France in a month, if the Germans had also been advancing a kilometer a month for years, they would not have been able to defeat France. And by the way, Ukrainians are not brothers for me. Maybe you and the Poles and Czechs will also kiss on the basis of the fact that we are Slavs? The Germans and the British do not seek to kiss each other, although they are the most fraternal peoples, the modern British are the descendants of the Germanic tribes of the Angles, Saxons and Jutes, who moved to England in the 5-8th centuries of our era from the territory of the modern North West Germany.

[Quote Lavrov]

Do you measure everyone by nationality, eye color, skin color?
Or do you think that there are no normal, adequate people among Ukrainians, Poles, Czechs, British, Americans? All the hundreds of millions are just sleeping and seeing how they can humiliate and capture Russia.
You stop confusing politicians with ordinary people who want to live, enjoy this life, raise children, have a future for themselves and for them, otherwise you argue in such a way that thoughts from one ideology of the 30s of the last century immediately come to mind.
With your approach to the world, there is simply no chance of survival.

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Yes, there are normal people among all peoples, I am sure that even in Nazi Germany there were Germans who did not consider Jews and Slavs to be Untermensch. But their vast minority, especially in Ukraine, where for 30 years they were brought up on hatred of Russia and Russians, and on a sense of national superiority, because this is the basest instinct, which is easy to fool, telling a person from the cradle that he is better than a Russian who is a slave and drunk. Judging by the presidential elections in 2014 and 2019, where 80% of Ukrainians voted for outright Nazis and Russophobes like Poroshenko, Tymoshenko, Gritsenko, Lyazhko, Yarosh, Tyagnibok and Zelensky, who joined them later, who did not hide their Nazi and Russophobic views, it turns out that these 80% of Ukrainians support their views and are themselves Nazis and Russophobes.

[Quote Lavrov]

But you are lying!! Frankly and directly. In 2019, Zelensky, exactly the opposite, came on the program of a peaceful agenda, on equality of language, freedom of the media, and so on! "Svoboda", on the contrary, flew out of the Rada. But the fact that he then turned 180 degrees - yes, a fact. But lying about the fact that in 2019 Ukrainians supported nationalists in the elections is a lie.
And now we have knocked out the last reason for the fact that people like Zelensky would no longer come to power in Ukraine before the elections, but like Poroshenko and the updated Zelensky, who is the opposite of the same period before the elections.

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Quote: Quote Lavrov

But you are lying!! Frankly and directly. In 2019, Zelensky, exactly the opposite, came on the program of a peaceful agenda, on equality of language, freedom of the media, and so on! "Svoboda", on the contrary, flew out of the Rada. But the fact that he then turned 180 degrees - yes, a fact. But lying about the fact that in 2019 Ukrainians supported nationalists in the elections is a lie.

You are the LIE! Zelensky, in the 2019 election campaign, openly and bluntly said that he would never recognize Crimea as Russian, that there would be no federalization of Ukraine, that there could be no question of giving the Russian language the status of even a regional one, that Ukraine would continue its course towards Euro-Atlantic integration and the entry of Ukraine in the EU and NATO. I hope you will not deny these facts in Zelensky's election campaign? Or will you argue that during his election campaign he promised to recognize Crimea as Russian, make Ukraine federal, give the Russian language the status of a regional language and refuse to join the EU and NATO? Yes, if he had said at least one point from these conditions, the Ukrainians themselves would have torn him up on the spot, accusing him of "a separ and a pro-Russian agent."

[Quote Lavrov]

Well, you're just lying again. Rude and cynical. Nazism, military, Russophobia Ukrainians ate under Poroshenko. That's why they chose Zelensky with his slogans - "Get off about who speaks what language", with his criticism of the media law with wholesale Ukrainization, with sharp criticism of the division by language and nationality, and most importantly - with a mantra and that with ready to negotiate with anyone, as long as peace comes.

And now, as if you have forgotten about your original post about nationalism and Russophobia, you begin to argue that he did not want to recognize Crimea as Russian. Are you fucking serious??? He did not run for the presidency of Russia.
What moved away from the topic of how the ardent Nazis Tyagniboks, etc., came to power in 2019? Yes, they were carried forward with their feet from the central government.
You can give Solovyov a head start in your imagination.
But then Zelensky turned around 180 degrees and became a supernationalist cleaner than Poroshenko. Why - there are many versions. And that's a fact. But he became the anti-version of himself. And look how his rating immediately collapsed - the party had to ban the media, spitting on all the laws. And the rating did not want to grow.
And then February 24th...

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Are you a stupid person? Are you the one who pisses in the eye, and you say "All God's dew"?

[Clear]

Quote: Quote Lavrov

Do you measure everyone by nationality, eye color, skin color?

And, you yourself then measure all the actions with buttons

Quote: Quote Lavrov

the "save" button and you use it to the fullest?

Quote: Quote Lavrov

there is no "Reload" button,

ambiguously posing as a pacifist, with the right to moralize, such as

Quote: Quote Lavrov

You stop confusing politicians with ordinary people,

Kuzma talks about the current military situation, and you, like VVP, "started" him

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich

That is, instead of using nuclear weapons and a quick victory, do you want a long-term meat grinder and 27 million victims among Russian citizens, like in that war? Are you really that?

And what makes you think that Russia will win by using nuclear weapons?

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Quote: Mordvin 3

And what makes you think that Russia will win by using nuclear weapons?

If he wins, nuclear weapons are the most powerful weapon that burns cities and can turn Kyiv, Lvov and other large cities into one continuous ashes in a few seconds. The Russian army will no longer need to storm these cities, which require a multi-million army and, accordingly, hundreds of thousands of losses only killed on our part. It's easier to burn Kyiv than to storm it. For example, the population of Berlin in 1945 was 3 million people, which is exactly comparable to the population of Kyiv, and the Red Army allocated 2,35 million soldiers and officers to storm Berlin, while the losses amounted to 80 thousand killed and 270 thousand wounded. Are you ready to lose 350 thousand Russian soldiers killed and wounded during the storming of Kyiv? I’m not, it’s easier, faster and cheaper to burn Kyiv with nuclear strikes, for me the lives of Russian soldiers are more important than the lives of Nazi fanatics who have settled in Kyiv on the defensive.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich

If he wins, nuclear weapons are the most powerful weapon that burns cities and can turn Kyiv, Lvov and other large cities into one continuous ashes in a few seconds.

Oh, so you prefer not to touch the cities of the West?

Quote: Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich

In a war of attrition with submachine gun against automaton, tank against tank, Russia cannot defeat the collective West, where the population is one billion people and the economy is dozens of times more powerful than the Russian economy. Without the use of nuclear weapons, we cannot win the war with the West,

But here's the hitch, if the battlefield is Ukraine, then the West can strike at the newly minted territories of the Russian Federation, which the West considers to be the occupied territories of Ukraine.

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Oh, so you prefer not to touch the cities of the West?

No, why? It's Ukrainian soldiers who are killing Russian soldiers under the leadership of the Ukrainian regime. What about Western cities?

Quote: Mordvin 3

But here's the hitch, if the battlefield is Ukraine, then the West can strike at the newly minted territories of the Russian Federation, which the West considers to be the occupied territories of Ukraine.

It won't. You contradict yourself. If the West did not recognize the referendums and considers the Donbass the territory of Ukraine, then how can it launch nuclear strikes on the Donbass, which the West itself considers to be the territory of Ukraine? The electorate will not understand.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich

It's Ukrainian soldiers who are killing Russian soldiers under the leadership of the Ukrainian regime. What about Western cities?

So these are your words, I repeat for the second time.

Quote: Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich

Without the use of nuclear weapons, we will not win the war with the West, which uses Ukraine simply as a training ground for war.

Quote: Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich

If the West did not recognize the referendums and considers the Donbass the territory of Ukraine, then how can it launch nuclear strikes on the Donbass, which the West itself considers the territory of Ukraine?

Captured territory. And as a training ground for war, they do not provide any value for the West.

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Quote: Mordvin 3

So these are your words, I repeat for the second time.

So what about western cities? Are our soldiers in Ukraine killed by Fritz from Hamburg, Francois from Lyon or Jack from Cincinnati?

Quote: Mordvin 3

Captured territory. And as a training ground for war, they do not provide any value for the West.

I repeat to you once again: the West recognizes these territories as Ukrainian, and for the West, hitting them with nuclear weapons is like hitting Poltava or Lvov, the electorate will not understand whether it is Ukrainian or Western.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich

Are our soldiers in Ukraine killed by Fritz from Hamburg, Francois from Lyon or Jack from Cincinnati?

So there is nothing to write that we are at war with the West.

Quote: Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich

The West recognizes these territories as Ukrainian, and for the West, hitting nuclear weapons on it is like hitting Poltava or Lvov, the electorate will not understand whether it is Ukrainian or Western.

Elechtrorakhta has been hammered in for 8 years that there are separatists and Russian troops, so he will understand.

[Dikson]

where are you from, climb, such id.i.o.t.s ???! With these ideas of using nuclear weapons on their territory?!

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Quote: Dikson

where are you from, climb, such id.i.o.t.s ???! With these ideas of using nuclear weapons on their territory?!

Since when did Kuiv, Poltava and Lvov become "their territories"? Novorossia has its own territories: Kharkiv, Lugansk, Donetsk, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa regions. The rest of Ukraine is Little Russia and Galicia, which is completely populated by people who hate Russians and Russia.

[Dikson]

Have you ever heard the expression "Kyiv is the mother of Russian cities" .. "Kievan Rus"? .. or you did not attend history lessons at school ..?

[Dikson]

All the best to you. Well, buy yourself a history textbook, or something. Only not new, but the one that was in the USSR. Well, where is it, "Vladimir, the Red Sun .." and other personalities. . And about "animal hatred" ..- now you throw it .. We have enough people with surnames ending in ******ko .. There is nothing to equate Bandera nits with the whole people, the newly-minted fascist "Kuzma" .. Provocateur.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich

That is, instead of using nuclear weapons and quick victory, a long-term meat grinder and 27 million victims among the citizens of Russia, as in that war?

What if there is no "quick win"? Are you 100% sure that NATO will swallow nuclear weapons strikes? And if not? 27 million (according to your estimates) versus 92 million according to the nuclear war model. And this is without the consequences of radioactive fallout and nuclear winter.
Do you at least a little imagine the consequences of a blow to the image of the Russian Federation, due to the use of nuclear weapons, even if NATO does not respond? Even China and India will look on with disbelief and apprehension.

[Konstantin Shevchenko]

We will shower them with holidays. You give more holidays and different ones.

[MMX]

Quote: Konstantin Shevchenko

We will shower them with holidays. You give more holidays and different ones.

Apparently, our Supreme Commander adheres to this strategy.
So far, it is stalling, but this is due to the fact that there are still few festivities unfolded. It is necessary to arrange a total marathon and then the enemy will be defeated.

[Submariner971]

It smells like nuclides. There is nothing to rejoice.

[Clear]

Quote: Submariner971

It smells like nuclides. There is nothing to rejoice.

Yes, too, and also an isotope, fusion and half-life
Now what to do? Go ahead and hang yourself?

[gansales]

The United States will help Ukraine in "returning the territories," such a promise was given to Kyiv by the head of the US State Department, Anthony Blinken.

Timing? I remember this whole canoe began when the Outskirts were promised to accept them into the EU !!!! And what is the result?

[rotmistr60]

The United States will help Ukraine in the "return of territories"

The United States, feeling a surge of strength in the fight against Russia, began to make even more generous promises. In Ukraine, they were naturally inspired and now it sounds

"return" to Crimea, moreover with weapons and "soon" ... in the spring of next year, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will reach the borders of Ukraine in 1991

It seems that time will put everything in its place. And it's time to stop feeling sorry for the infrastructure of Ukrainian cities.

[Skipper]

The Russian people can forgive the authorities a lot .... and theft ... and corruption .... and shtetl .... and clan .... and much more ... and even the fact that many live very modestly .. and poor .... BUT ..... the Russian people will NEVER FORGIVE the authorities DEFEAT .... LOSS .... and flight in a war is a sacred and painful place for the people. So if the authorities want to save the country ... themselves and the people, then let them immediately draw conclusions and stop supporting the rotten system of bail and clannishness in the generals of the RF Ministry of Defense, which is now destroying the country from the inside as a result of cowardice ... incompetence .... perversity, etc. P. Personnel can be saved in peacetime in civilian positions .... but when there is a war and the very existence of Russia is on the map, then co-operation .. kindness and playing democracy in Russia is like death. Stalin correctly drew conclusions ... organized SMERSH and absolutely incompetent generals .. who led to colossal failures shot ..... Okay, when he wanted to ... but it didn’t work out - remove immediately and to the rear ... but when he deliberately harms and doesn’t God forbid, work for ukrovermacht, then it was immediately shot.

[Clear]

Quote: Skipper

BUT ..... the Russian people will NEVER FORGIVE the authorities DEFEAT .... LOSS ...

Moreover, the people even turn away from the unfortunate "ataman", not to mention the defeatist.

[Boromir1941]

Well, they are actually sick. such words will only cause conflict

[Tusv]

What is theirs with the occupation of Okinawa? Packs of Japanese women are being raped. Are we silent? And what do they do with Hawaiian boys for one hundred and fifty years of occupation. This Uzhoz is terrible

[RaccoonSnake]

He also made a forecast for the end of hostilities, saying that in the spring of next year the Armed Forces of Ukraine would reach the borders of Ukraine in 1991, and in the spring the “liberation” of Crimea would take place. He described the ongoing offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as "the beginning of the end of Russian aggression."

Looking at the real state of the Russian army and the state as a whole, which is especially clearly demonstrated in September, there is no longer any doubt that they will translate all these wishes into reality.

[FASTWOLF]

America will now bomb voters and make it so Ukraine neo-Nazi's can keep killing women and children's pure madness.

[Clear]

Quote from FASTWOLF

America will now bomb voters and make it so Ukraine neo-Nazi's can keep killing women and children's pure madness.

America will now bomb voters and make sure that Ukrainian neo-Nazis can continue to kill women and children - pure madness.

Well, you can't translate, but can you read Russian?
To understand whether to answer you or not?

[maxim1987]

Quote: Sergey V

Here 10 for Kyiv, then the spirit is not enough, and you swung at 100 for Washington

guys, have you noticed how many, lately, freaks have been divorced in the VO inciting us (Russia) to use tactical nuclear weapons? They want us then all NATO to bend for this. But Putin, although a seal, is not stupid

[Tusv]

Quote: maximNNX

for the use of tactical nuclear weapons?

TNW is not SNW, you need to use it. For each of Our deaths, 10 kilotons and that's all, no one will fight with us. This is my personal opinion bombed with thousands of minuses

[Tusv]

The first minus went. Guys, don't be shy. The more minuses, the more ways to supply the Armed Forces of Ukraine will clog

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

Keep the plus from me, bro! I fully share your opinion! TNW will be enough to destroy power plants, bridges and railway junctions, and without all this, the flow of Western aid will rise, which now flows freely along the roads of Ukraine.

[Clear]

Quote: maximNNX

Quote: Sergey V

Here 10 for Kyiv, then the spirit is not enough, and you swung at 100 for Washington

guys, have you noticed how many, lately, freaks have been divorced in the VO inciting us (Russia) to use tactical nuclear weapons? They want us then all NATO to bend for this. But Putin, although a seal, is not stupid

So you guys are being killed with the latest military technology, and you all appeal to reason
Well, let's supply more, what do you have left that is not broken? Already the entire Western world is not afraid to go to kill you and mockingly blow up gas and oil pipelines ...
Soon, as you will be in Europe, when visitors rape their wife, the husband says "now, my dear, I will go to write a statement to the police ...", and the police will still draw up a protocol against my husband for intolerance. Tfu!

[Hypertension]

Quote: Clear

So you guys are being killed with the latest military technology, and you all appeal to reason

And where are our modern, unparalleled, working on "new physical principles" weapons, about which we were told with rapture and aspiration? Where is the robot Fedor, after all? Where is this "terminator", which is so needed now ?!

[Clear]

Quote: Hyperion

Quote: Clear

So you guys are being killed with the latest military technology, and you all appeal to reason

And where are our modern, unparalleled, working on "new physical principles" weapons, about which we were told with rapture and aspiration? Where is the robot Fedor, after all? Where is this "terminator", which is so needed now ?!

Well, keep looking for your terminators and fedoras. They remained as single prototypes to receive grants for scientific and other research.
Stop waiting. Fight with what you have and without doubt (snot) concerns.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Clear

They remained as single prototypes to receive grants for scientific and other research.

OK then. Let's leave aside "single samples". And where are such seemingly familiar things like Kevlar helmets and ceramic armor plates? Why are they missing?
I remember that about the "mobiks" from the LDNR, flaunting steel helmets from the times of the USSR, they wrote that, they say, the Russian Defense Ministry does not supply them, and people use what is available. And what is the Russian Defense Ministry now supplying the Russian "mobiks" with? Surprise surprise! Also steel Soviet helmets. https://t.me/RVvoenkor/27786
And you won’t find Br5 ceramic plates in the afternoon with fire. There are only steel Br4, which lose to ceramic in many respects.

Quote: Clear

Stop waiting. Fight with what you have and without doubt (snot) concerns.

And "women still give birth", right? Yes, they just don’t give birth. Demography is lame, and people should be protected as much as possible. But you, apparently, are not going to the front, so you can show off, "without a doubt."

[Clear]

Quote: Hyperion

But you, apparently, are not going to the front, so you can show off, "without a doubt."

Do not Cry. I certainly served no less than yours, and tears to you, abandoned, offended, seeking

Quote: Hyperion

Br5 ceramic plates

I can wipe.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Clear

Surely I have served no less than yours.

Excellent. People with experience are needed at the front. When to fight, "without doubts and concerns"?
And Br5 is needed by many in the NWO. They are needed a million times more than your empty and "undoubted" parting words.

[Clear]

Quote: Hyperion

They are needed a million times more than your empty and "undoubted" parting words.

Ah, your whining (or "Songs of Hyperion") certainly inspires everyone.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Clear

Ah, your whining

Fair indignation at the fact that the Russian Defense Ministry cannot equip mobilized soldiers according to modern realities is this "whining"? Do you prefer "Konashenkov's songs"?
And how then to call your indifferent attitude to this situation? At least - selfishness. After all, you don’t have to sit in a trench.

[Clear]

Quote: Hyperion

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation cannot equip mobilized soldiers according to modern realities

Can you provide a source for this information?

Quote: Hyperion

After all, you don’t have to sit in a trench.

And you?

[Hypertension]

Quote: Clear

Can you provide a source for this information?

Firstly: I have already given a link to Soviet helmets. https://t.me/RVvoenkor/27786
Here is another photo where you can see some kind of bulletproof vest. There is a steel plate, no CAP, no anti-ricochet package.
That is, the "Warrior" (which is a modern set of equipment) does not smell there. I am generally silent about modern means of communication. Even the personnel units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation strained with them.

Quote: Clear

And you?

Might have to.

[Clear]

Quote: Hyperion

That is, the "Warrior" (which is a modern set of equipment) does not smell there. I am generally silent about modern means of communication. Even the personnel units of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation strained with them.

This disgrace should be punished!

[ivan2022]

Quote: Skipper

The Russian people can forgive the authorities a lot....and theft...and corruption....and shtetl....and clannishness....and much more.

DO NOT LIE ! They messed up beyond measure. It's not about "forgiveness," never mind playing noble!

The point is indifference, in the fact that an immoral society is suicidal. It is not capable of nominating normal strong leaders. And those whom it puts forward, they threaten him. Too late to drink Borjomi! If the fish rots from the head, then it is already dead. And a statement of fact is only a matter of time.

[yuriy55]

The United States will help Ukraine in "returning the territories," such a promise was given to Kyiv by the head of the US State Department, Anthony Blinken.

In the photo it looks older than the priest's dog. Fear lost, what makes such statements? Or is there something to keep GDP and SKS?
*****
It is the “nobility” and “politeness” of the soldiers of the Russian army announced by the Russian authorities, the position of waiting and the lack of use of effective types of weapons that allow the United States to make such statements and consider the Russian Armed Forces weak and helpless.

[Sergey Kirakosyan]

Kyiv has already helped to return the "occupied territories", now let Pristina help ...

[voyaka uh]

From October 1, Lend-Lease to Ukraine begins. It makes it possible to supply equipment from US storage. Before that, there were one-time "presidential gifts".

[EFIM LYUBIN]

belovvladimir (Vladimir), you forgot about London, Brussels and Langley - the headquarters of the CIA!

[opuonmed]

maybe it's enough to look at the west and the usa and do everything to win and spit on everyone the main result huh?

[hohohol]

It is high time to make sure that America has no one to make promises about the return of territories, and I do not understand why the evil clown is still alive.

[isv000]

States do not bother, they say and do what they want. Russia observes the agreements and supplies them with uranium for nuclear power plants, titanium and rare earth metals, participates in a joint space program and does not touch thermal power plants and the infrastructure of Ukraine as a whole, allowing the Armed Forces of Ukraine to ride on a cast-iron. Yesterday, Krasny Liman left Russia ... And now throw your cons ...

[Altmann]

Instead of verbal support, Asian states would help financially. For example. 10 workers from North Korea could reinforce the offensive of the Russian army. It will happen anyway. So far, this is simply inappropriate on my part, but North Korea owes a lot to Russia.

[nordscout]

The pragmatism of the "penguins" must be learned ... They know how to fight when they "press hard" and "squeeze" the "soul" out of the "partners" - allies, along with feces ... Ukraine is a vivid example of this pragmatism and the ability to fight, even with foreign soldiers on foreign territory ... One question: how much time will we need to oppose our Suvorovs, Bagrations, Zhukovs and Vasilevskys ..... No laughing matter, somehow ....