German media: Controlling gas prices will cost the German budget 200 billion euros

The containment of gas prices will cost the German budget 200 billion euros. The German government intends to use this mechanism instead of the gas tax.

This topic was raised by the journalists of the German TV channel N-TV.

The German media writes that the German government decided to cancel the gas tax. In return, it will slow down gas prices. This news was announced to the press by German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, Finance Minister Christian Lindner and Economy Minister Robert Habeck. The head of the German government called this measure a "double blow".

It should be borne in mind that strict state regulation can cause both a positive effect and adverse reactions, for example, an increase in inflation. It is not yet known what specific levers will be used to contain gas prices, because the program has not yet been fully finalized. It will be ready only in the middle of this month.

The leader of the CDU political movement, Friedrich Merz, believes that it will be very difficult to put into practice measures to curb gas prices. He even compared this task with open heart surgery without anesthesia, as the politician said on the air of the German TV channel ZDF. He, along with the Minister of Finance, attended a program on the gas problem.

In Germany, many experts and officials believe that the country's energy situation is worse than expected. In addition, the problem was exacerbated by sabotage on the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines.

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[tralflot1832]

The Germans prepare reports, the Poles launched their pipka 62 million per day of "cheap" Norwegian gas, although the Poles docked to a German pipe coming from Norway.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: tralflot1832

The Germans prepare reports, the Poles launched their pipka 62 million per day of "cheap" Norwegian gas, although the Poles docked to a German pipe coming from Norway.

Nothing. They don't get poor. And the diet didn’t bother anyone, otherwise they got used to wasting money.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Nothing. They don't get poor. And the diet didn’t bother anyone, otherwise they got used to wasting money.

What's next? Gosplan? Five years in three years? Dollar 69 euro cents at the rate published in the newspaper "News" "Bild"?

I remember that one big and great country brought these things to profanity and, under the leadership of the "bought Cossacks", ruined its economy. The methods are obvious, the puppets of the "Master" too.
"Are you on the right path, comrades?"

[tralflot1832]

They are rich, 200 billion in the furnace, not in the economy, but in maintaining prices. They will simply burn the euro. Masochists. We do not understand them.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: tralflot1832

They are rich, 200 billion in the furnace, not in the economy, but in maintaining prices. They will simply burn the euro. Masochists. We do not understand them.

It will go to the economy.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: tralflot1832

They are rich, 200 billion in the furnace, not in the economy, but in maintaining prices. They will simply burn the euro. Masochists. We do not understand them.

It will go to the economy.

Since when did the money allocated to maintain prices go into the economy?
True, if we consider state subsidies as a tool to keep gas companies from going bankrupt, then yes.
And, in my opinion, this is just a populist attempt to keep the Germans at home. So that they do not wander around the streets with slogans.

[gansales]

Quote: tralflot1832

Nothing. They don't get poor. And the diet didn’t bother anyone, otherwise they got used to wasting money.

Get out and the Jews from Israel want something from the Germans ..
They didn’t listen to the Russians (Putin in Munich) Here again, pay the Jews, the Anglo-Saxons and soon the Poles hehe
And the Russians, as always, are silent and spit on usurers ..
Jackals flew into Germany .. Well, that's what she needs!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote from gansales

Get out and the Jews from Israel want something from the Germans ..
They didn’t listen to the Russians (Putin in Munich) Here again, pay the Jews, the Anglo-Saxons and soon the Poles hehe
And the Russians, as always, are silent and spit on usurers ..
Jackals flew into Germany .. Well, that's what she needs!

[Cat Alexandrovich]

"He even compared the task to open-heart surgery without anesthesia"...
Strange comparison! Ursula would compare it to anything more fun!

[mitroha]

He even compared the task to open-heart surgery without anesthesia.

Ahead.
Likes to play doctor? Naughty .. That is, his program is not feasible, like heart surgery without anesthesia. Though honestly

[Ural_engineer]

Those who have this gas can hold back gas prices. And those who do not have it can restrain the urge to defecate, send military equipment and their chatty tongue.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Ural_engineer

Those who have this gas can hold back gas prices. And those who do not have it can restrain the urge to defecate, send military equipment and their chatty tongue.

Let's talk about it in April.

[Ural_engineer]

And what, in April, some kind of religious Jewish holiday?

[Mouse]

We'll talk... won't they freeze until April?

[tralflot1832]

The descendants of the former Stalingrad will not survive this, but the number will thin out. The Turks have muddied heating tours, the prices are attractive, tied to the prices for heating and electricity in Germany. Yes, and the Arabs, like migratory birds, rush to Italy and Spain. And then you can close the borders again in the spring, like Covid 22. And still there are no migrants.

[Mouse]

. The Turks won heating tours, the prices are attractive, tied to the prices for heating and electricity in Germany. wassat Yes, and the Arabs rush like migratory birds to Italy and Spain.

Save whoever you can....

[tralflot1832]

I suspect they will seep into the Crimea and Sochi.

[gansales]

Quote: tralflot1832

I suspect they will seep into the Crimea and Sochi.

Will definitely leak!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Mouse

We'll talk... won't they freeze until April?

Looks like no.

Will Europe freeze? There is a very specific political task - to form gas reserves at any cost, in a literal interpretation. As for gas reserves in Europe, the situation is rather optimistic. Now the reserves are over 95 billion cubic meters, which is only 10 billion cubic meters below the historical maximum.
Since June 2022, the average weekly filling rate of gas storage facilities has been 2.7 billion cubic meters, since August - 2.6 billion cubic meters, since September - 2.3 billion cubic meters.
There are 5 weeks left to fill, but rates tend to slow down in late autumn, so they can go to an all-time high or so, i.e. 104-105 billion cubic meters by the beginning of the heating season is real.
All this is happening against the backdrop of almost completely stopped gas exports from Russia. After the disruption of the Nord Stream, the export of Russian pipeline gas has practically no prospects, because the situation with the Ukrainian gas transmission system is very uncertain in the current circumstances.
As for the heating period and increased gas consumption, Europe takes from gas storage facilities an average of 50-70 billion cubic meters of gas (depending on supplies and cold weather) per season. This is relevant given the natural background supplies of Gazprom, which were in the “normal period”.

Now, to put it mildly, an anomalous period. Europe, including Gazprom, can supply 6.5-7 billion cubic meters a week from all sources, about 9 billion cubic meters are needed in winter, so that reserves are reduced as usual - by 60 billion per season.
Probably, this time gas supplies will be on average 2 billion below the norm, which in 20 weeks will form an additional deficit of 40 billion cubic meters. This is if you do not reduce consumption, but they are reducing it at a record pace.
Accordingly, taking into account the reduction in consumption and emergency measures, even with a relatively cold winter and the shutdown of Gazprom's pipeline, I predict gas reserves by spring of about 35 billion cubic meters, i.e. they should have enough. There are two reasons - record stocks and reduced consumption.
PS The Polish-Norwegian gas pipeline, due to be launched on 30/9, and the two LNG receiving terminals in Germany, which will start operating in January, were not taken into account.

[Mouse]

Winter will show ... until April ......

[tralflot1832]

And the Germans scored on saving gas, let the government save in their homes! Our people.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Mouse

We'll talk... won't they freeze until April?

They won’t freeze, energy-intensive industries will have some problems, but not critical ones. Stop listening to incompetent propaganda. Better tell me when our population will have gas, at least without exception in the Moscow region?

[Blacksmith 55]

These 200 billion are intended not only to contain gas prices, but also for electricity.
Not everything has been decided yet, but they seem to want each household to pay 80% of last year's gas consumption at the price set by the state, and the remaining 20% ​​at an inflated price.
Thus, people will be interested in saving gas, so as not to pay an increased price. And at the same time , the poorest layers of the population will be provided with heat .
But , I repeat , not everything has been finally decided yet .

[Mouse]

The head of the German government called this measure a "double blow".

And for whom?
By itself...

[bombaher]

Why didn't the Baltic Pipe explode by chance?

[tralflot1832]

So the gas is Norwegian, and it is a country in NATO.

[Old Michael]

Hello Andrey!

So the gas is Norwegian, and it is a country in NATO.

But nobody canceled the theory of probability either.
And according to this theory, for a very long time there has not been an emergency at American LNG terminals.

[tralflot1832]

Here I am also for LNG terminals, we have a lot of Samodelkins on our planet, but how Javelin or Stinger works there. This is an option. Earlier, I already laid out the idea about LNG terminals, immediately when the joint venture was blown up. Everything can be expected from the USA. Undermining an LNG tanker, insurance prices will be exorbitant .. The USA has a large selection.

[Old Michael]

The US has a lot to choose from.

Yes, and Petrov and Boshirov have not been in the public field for a long time ...

[Andobor]

It's not just about prices, there is a physical shortage of gas, part of the industry will have to be stopped,
and household goods can be supported, enough for heating, especially since the Germans are still not spoiled by many firewood, they drown with pellets.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Andobor

they drown with pellets

They say pellets are a profitable thing. True, if the area is small. I need a wagon of these pellets for the winter. Yes, and I love to cook and I’m used to it on a gas stove - I don’t have a relationship with either electric or induction.
And the Germans are still running around on an American leash - they will cook their strudel on wood in the yard.

[Boycott]

And where for firewood? The road to Siberia is closed to them. And theirs is also not an abundance.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: BoyCat

And where for firewood? The road to Siberia is closed to them. And theirs is also not an abundance.

There will be enough parks and chairs for a couple of winters, and there, you see, they will grow wiser.

[Vlodek]

to pay for household gas you need to work somewhere.
stopped production will throw thousands of unemployed people into the street, unable to pay "for everyday life." riots by April will be worse than "yellow vests" (ktati, where are they?). isn't that the goal? and the "damned mattresses" that blew up the gas pipeline are to blame for this ...
this is the second reason: to pull Uncle Joe's penis out of old Europa's mouth. something like this

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Ural_engineer

And what, in April, some kind of religious Jewish holiday?

Purim. Let's get drunk.

[Cowbra]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Let's get drunk.

Are you starving?
Well, almost Brother-2

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Cowbra

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Let's get drunk.

Are you starving?
Well, almost Brother-2

We don't finish drinking.

[Alexander X]

Yes fie three times on the Germans. Ugh three times that someone in the geyropa will be cold.
The main thing is that the Russians should be warm, so that the Khokhls do not rummage around our borders, so that not a single enemy shell, not a single bullet, not a single fragment reaches the Russian border.

[Cowbra]

No, I like...

will cost the German budget 200 billion euros. The German government intends to use this mechanism instead of the gas tax.

And where does the money come from in the budget, besides taxes?!!! Same shit, absolutely

[Zenn]

Well, they stole 300 billion from Russia, and they already estimate their losses at 200 billion, and this is in the first approximation, and only for Germany. Comrades are on the right path!

[gansales]

You guys here listen to Aron, he is from Israel, but he loves the Germans very hehe
They will soon tear apart Germany from the USA
So that the Russians don’t get anything, like from Ukraine hehe

[Tagan]

Quote: smith 55

These 200 billion are intended not only to contain gas prices, but also for electricity.
Not everything has been decided yet, but they seem to want each household to pay 80% of last year's gas consumption at the price set by the state, and the remaining 20% ​​at an inflated price.
Thus, people will be interested in saving gas, so as not to pay an increased price. And at the same time , the poorest layers of the population will be provided with heat .
But , I repeat , not everything has been finally decided yet .

Providing households with gas is the fifth business. What will happen to production, that's what's interesting.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Tagan

Providing households with gas is the fifth business. What will happen to production, that's what's interesting.

Um. Here we'll see.

[Simple]

Firms (or their branches in Germany) will calculate the future profit, and who else can finance, will move from this madhouse called Germany.
Liz Truss promises to cut taxes for the rich, Boris Johnson will be one of the helmsmen in the company that will supply liquefied gas to Germany - the main thing is to hurry up in time.
Volkswagen has also pricked up skiing in the US.

[evgen1221]

They had a cheap gas tank, and now they are running around the world - a bucket here, a basket there, and they hope to replace this tank.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: evgen1221

They had a cheap gas tank, and now they are running around the world - a bucket here, a basket there, and they hope to replace this tank.

Well, it's their choice.

[Rurikovich]

Well, not a bit sorry They said more than once - guys, in fact you are vassals, without rights. The Anglo-Saxons will snap their fingers and you will howl ... Nah, what are you ... No pity...
You have to pay for everything....