The military correspondents said that the troops withdrew from Krasny Liman to a new line of defense

One of the main forces holding Drobyshevo was the BARS-13 army reserve detachment, known as the "Russian Legion". After the withdrawal of Russian troops from this settlement, under the onslaught of the enemy, the battalion was divided into two parts - one was transferred to the reserve and is located next to Krasny Liman, the second was reinforced with mortars and took up new positions in Kremennaya, located east, control over which allows you to keep the movement along the highway leading from the LPR.

As the BARS-13 battalion commander explained, the unit entrusted to him performs the same task - to prevent the encirclement of the group of troops:

For two weeks they held the significantly superior forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, not allowing them to close the encirclement of Kr. Estuary. Reinforcements are on the way. Soon the Nazis will "give jazz."

Under enemy pressure, the front around this city continued to narrow. Enemy forces were seen on the outskirts of the settlement. Yesterday's counterattack made it possible to evacuate the wounded, in connection with which a swift throw from Kr. Estuary to a new line of defense to Kremennaya. According to the military correspondents, withdrawn from Kr. Liman's troops have taken up new positions, are fighting the enemy and awaiting the imminent arrival of reinforcements.

Defenders Kr. Liman did a great job, holding down serious enemy forces in the conditions of an operational crisis - the withdrawal of Russian troops from the Kharkov direction. The front has not yet been stabilized, however, each new step of the enemy is accompanied by increasing losses, and the implementation of the next operation takes more and more time.

The main thing is that the new line of defense should stand.

Comments

[Old ensign]

to the battalion commander the star of the hero, the commander of the battalion commander to the front line to dig trenches.

[Silver99]

Yes, only to pluck the stars of Heroes from the generals who only learned to build dachas, and learn to fight like in 1941, retreating and surrendering cities (((((Everything rests on the heroism of Private Vanya ((((

[Russian jacket]

These will hold on to their stars with their teeth ..... Creatures.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote from Silver99

and they learn to fight as in 1941, retreating and surrendering cities (((((Everything rests on the heroism of Private Vanya ((((

So it was, so it is, and so it probably will be. And it would be half the trouble if they wanted to study and studied. Yes, on the blood of soldiers, where without it. The question is - how much time to give them for training? I believe it has already ended. If, from today, they will again "level the line of defense", retreat to "more convenient positions for defense", then we can safely conclude that they are not trainable. Therefore, let them begin their growth in a new way, from the ordinary, and in the current conditions, from the trench.

[YOUR]

The network has data for the entire Afghan war, only four generals received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union - Akhromeev, Gromov, Varenikov, Grachev, Maksimov, Slyusar, Sokolov. There are also either generals after they became, or the award was after the war and was awarded by Yeltsin. So it was a war, and people got paid for their deeds by taking a direct part in the b / d or developing unique operations. Now I went to Syria for a couple of months, oh Hero of Russia. How so???

[Nevsky_ZU]

Announce the entire list of cities that we will leave, but where exactly we will rest, and drive to the West. I will forgive the authorities everything if we really drive them to the West. No Volidol will not suffice from such news.
And you know what's the most annoying thing? When, at the end of spring, Arestovich announced that these were the last cities that the Russians had liberated. I meant Lichichansk and Severo-Donetsk. How did the rear wheel drive man know this? Did he just guess or did he know something? Or is it a banal truth that the state that has a strong ideology fights? For Ukrainians, it is Nazi. And we have a consumer society. It's also an ideology. I do not think that behind all the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are detachments.

[SaLaR]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Announce the entire list of cities that we will leave, but where exactly we will rest, and drive to the West. I will forgive the authorities everything if we really drive them to the West. No Volidol will not suffice from such news.
And you know what's the most annoying thing? When, at the end of spring, Arestovich announced that these were the last cities that the Russians had liberated. I meant Lichichansk and Severo-Donetsk. How did the rear wheel drive man know this? Did he just guess or did he know something? Or is it a banal truth that the state that has a strong ideology fights? For Ukrainians, it is Nazi. And we have a consumer society. It's also an ideology. I do not think that behind all the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine there are detachments.

That's when ho, khly come to Rublev's huts, then everyone will stir .... And immediately there will be troops and planes will fly and even normal first-aid kits will appear ....

[Jura 27]

Just regrouped a bit. Again.
Definitely, it is necessary by winter to lure the Ukrainian troops near Moscow, and there the generals Frost, Mud, troops from the Far East and Siberia will do their job.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Old ensign

to the battalion commander the star of the hero, the commander of the battalion commander to the front line to dig trenches.

Or maybe this commander should be put in command no longer of a battalion?

[Wesker gorlovka]

Lyman fell?
So we can soon fall down like that.
What should we do then?
They will break in here, they will kill on the right and on the left.

[Nastia makarova]

Where are you? in what city?..........

[carpenter]

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Quote: Nastia Makarova

Where are you? in what city?..

He is from Gorlovka, Donbass.

[Light]

Are you from Gorlovka? After 8 years of shelling, what to be afraid of, dill does not climb in that direction.

[saigon]

Yes, there are no more words............, No more saliva........., everything is not good for my mother.

[skeptick2]

Why such pessimism?
Was it still unclear when looking at the map yesterday? At that very moment, by the way, when hats were flying to the ceiling and everyone was happy from the good news about some BTG or almost brigades going to de-blockade Liman?
And yesterday or the day before yesterday I suggested that we think a little and wait until tomorrow. When it turns out which regiment is in a hurry to the rescue. And does it even exist in nature?
What is the result? They threw downvotes, and the comment was deleted.
So what? What to say now? I'd rather not say anything at all. They do not like people here who do not waver along with the general line of the Party.

[PrAkyror]

I don’t understand ... they defended (heroically) Liman for two weeks, during which time reinforcements could already “walk” up ... Actively (whatever the whole mass) the enemy did not spud, no artillery, we even use kamikaze drones anywhere not there ... we give the enemy crossings, collect shock groups into a fist ...
Either this is a MEGA ingenious plan of the General Staff, so that the Ukrainians would pull the entire reserve and all combat-ready units there, and Ours carried out a swift attack in the other direction, or this is pure betrayal of the highest ranks in our army ...

[Silver99]

During this time, the entire Far Eastern Military District, in addition to the grouping in Syria, could be transferred to the combat zone, so no, this is the Armed Forces of Ukraine being transferred by railway reinforcements, and we all threaten and puff out our cheeks ((((It is disgusting and sorry for the mothers of the boys who with their lives correct the mistakes of mediocre generals ((((

[Two]

All the time on the site I see the Far East, Siberia, and now Chechnya. Indeed, in terms of the number of you in Moscow alone, 10 far easts will be incapable of nothing or only the checkpoint upper lars. By the way, your court division Kantemirovskaya needs to remove the guards badge from it, drapes so that the new equipment is thrown sadly somehow. Muscovites need to count on themselves, Petersburgers.

[carpenter]

Quote from Silver99

During this time, the entire Far Eastern Military District, in addition to the grouping in Syria, could be transferred to the combat zone

Yes, we passed the toy
Prototype, weed,
It would be good if she was in the North,
But it is, vsezh, in the West.

[lopvlad]

Quote from PrAkyror

during this time, reinforcements could already "walk" up ...

this reinforcement was lying on the sofa for another two weeks until September 21, and now at best
is undergoing training at the training ground and I hope those who undergo this training do not hold weapons for the first time in their lives.

[Aaron Zawi]

No matter how the second Cauldron forms near Borovaya

[Maxim Sergeevich]

Unclear. Such a feeling. That a 4th grade student controls the war on the part of the Russian Federation ..

[Wesker gorlovka]

Well, as usual, taxi drivers, loaders and traders manage the war better.
After all, they know better how to run the state, don't they?

[Cartalon]

It may well be, judging by the results of management.

[Russian jacket]

What do you want from the Arbat military district, if the work of an ordinary television announcer is performed by a lieutenant general. I wonder for what exploits in the field of chatter he received not only the title but also his orders?

[Doron 7]

And, to whom and, in general, why was this war needed? What are her goals and what has she achieved so far?

[Russian jacket]

Well, why is a schoolboy .... The whole author of the whole doctrine by the name of Gerasimov. A whole chief of staff ....

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Maxim Sergeevich

Such a feeling. That a 4th grade student controls the war on the part of the Russian Federation ..

For some reason I feel like a 4th grader would do better...

[lopvlad]

Quote: Maxim Sergeevich

Such a feeling. That a 4th grade student controls the war on the part of the Russian Federation ..

everything is much worse because decisions during the NWO are made in accordance with the interests of Russian capitalists and speculators. After all, it is with an eye on their interests that Russia did not strike at the critical infrastructure of Ukraine, and as a result, Ukraine mobilized more than 6 thousand in more than 400 months of the NWO, and untouched by us the infrastructure allowed them to be prepared and quickly transferred to any sector of the front.
As a result, the Russian command, and with it the Russian authorities, did their best.

[Metallurg_2]

Before the start of the NWO, it was necessary to put all our sharks of capitalism against the wall.
The internal enemy is much more terrible than any NATO.

[Leshak]

Hero Boys! They did everything possible and impossible in the defense of Krasny Liman. And the high command, which allowed this situation, to drive vzashey (the rules do not allow it to be more abrupt).

[chingachguc]

Hero guys abandoned the whole technique

[lopvlad]

Yes, well done guys did everything they could. But on mass heroism, a war against an enemy outnumbered by several times cannot be won.

[Garris199]

For 7 months they dragged on with mobilization, telling stories for the narrow-minded about "everything is according to plan." We woke up when it was too late, how many people were put. This is blatant incompetence or treason, which, against the background of the war, is the same thing in principle.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Garris199

For 7 months they dragged on with mobilization, telling stories for the narrow-minded about "everything is according to plan." We woke up when it was too late, how many people were put. This is blatant incompetence or treason, which, against the background of the war, is the same thing in principle.

Firstly, this is the failure of analytics in the Ministry of Defense and in Military Intelligence. It is very reminiscent of Israel's mistake in 1973. Underestimation of both the military potential and the moral and strong-willed qualities of the enemy.
And then, judging by how a significant part of your society reacted in the Kremlin, they didn’t want pictures that went around the whole world with thousands of Russians fleeing from mobilization.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Garris199

For 7 months they dragged on with mobilization, telling stories for the narrow-minded about "everything is according to plan." We woke up when it was too late, how many people were put. This is blatant incompetence or treason, which, against the background of the war, is the same thing in principle.

Firstly, this is the failure of analytics in the Ministry of Defense and in Military Intelligence. It is very reminiscent of Israel's mistake in 1973. Underestimation of both the military potential and the moral and strong-willed qualities of the enemy.
And then, judging by how a significant part of your society reacted in the Kremlin, they didn’t want pictures that went around the whole world with thousands of Russians fleeing from mobilization.

A huge number of people V and Z were torn down right there. The support of the NWO among the people has greatly decreased.

[chingachguc]

Strelkov was right when he says that Putin wants to win, not wanting to change anything in essence. All these fat faces at the General Staff and in the field. The decision to mobilize came with great difficulty. Generals must be changed in batches. All ass lickers - retired or put on trial. And to put forward combat generals and officers, giving them complete freedom in choosing personnel. These people are unpleasant, ruffy, with a bad character. but these are the ones who know how to win

[igovlk]

You need to shoot, and very quickly!

[spirit]

All these fat faces in the General Staff

These faces suited the Padishah-Emperor quite well. Since they were stupid and did not ask questions. Smart generals can win wars, but they can also pose a threat to Caesar’s reign (since they will understand and will not be able to reckon with such a mess and betrayal). I think between my precious life and power and death of thousands of soldiers, the padishah-emperor will choose his own skin.

[maxim1987]

meh!! the phrase in the article about strengthening with mortars killed! did the boys there fight back with ukrov only with Kalash for 2 weeks? All for awards, General Staff against the wall!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: maximNNX

meh!! the phrase in the article about strengthening with mortars killed! did the boys there fight back with ukrov only with Kalash for 2 weeks? All for awards, General Staff against the wall!

Why are you deceiving yourself? Ukrainian telegram channels are already full of videos with captured tanks, self-propelled guns and rocket launchers.

[RaccoonSnake]

Russia is large, potential "lines of defense" in bulk. Seriously, were you going to compete with NATO with such armed forces?

[Andobor]

It's good if everyone really moved away.

[Evgeny Babakov]

Lots of miscalculations. How many unjustified deaths? What and what did you think about? We hope that they started thinking with their heads. VICTORY will be ours !!!

[Yapet100]

Soon ours will roll back, apparently, to the borders of Russia ... Ukrainians stick and stick ... One gets the impression that everything that happens is beneficial to someone ... Soon they will begin to crumble the mobilized ... And Cargo 200 will pour into Russia.
What's happening?!?! Why was this special operation so ill-conceived? What were you hoping for??? Where were the analysts of the General Staff?

[igovlk]

There are no analysts, only people who have held these positions.

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

I remember that in 1941 several generals were shot during the Winter War for the mediocre loss of the 44th division, which out of 14 thousand personnel lost 11 thousand killed and missing, and 1,5 thousand wounded, all artillery, machine guns and vehicles, before the formation, they shot the commander of this division, the commissar of the division and the chief of staff of the division. Maybe we should also shoot a couple of bastards from the generals and raise discipline in this way?

[Metallurg_2]

Voltaire also wrote: "In this country, from time to time, it is customary to shoot one admiral in order to inspire the rest." This is about the execution of Admiral Byng on the deck of his flagship for cowardice.

[kventinasd]

A campaign with such a command will very soon receive similar reports from Lisichansk and Severodonetsk.
The generals probably haven't left the buffet after yesterday's event. It’s just that now it’s a pity for the current mobs, which such a command is literally preparing for slaughter.

[Roles]

Just don't say it was unexpected

[SIT]

It is very reminiscent of the Russian-Japanese war - the heroism of soldiers, officers in the trenches and total stupidity and betrayal at headquarters at all levels.

[Andobor]

Chechnya was forgotten, but here it is 30 times more, in all respects - territory, population, weapons, Western support. And the attracted forces are only 3 times larger, 10 times still need to be increased, then there will be victory.

[poquello]

and where are the names of military men then? the author Lyushilin thought of it himself

[Quinto]

Maybe it's time to present to the general public the leadership team responsible for the Kharkiv direction? The country must know its "heroes"
A monument to the men who fought against all odds.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Quinto

Maybe it's time to present to the general public the leadership team responsible for the Kharkiv direction? The country must know its "heroes"
A monument to the men who fought against all odds.

So they also carried out a brilliant "regrouping", if only they were presented at the awards ceremony.

[NAF-NAF]

And just like yesterday, many people rejoiced at the optimistic reports about suitable reserves... Eh... will officials ever be really responsible for their incapacity or betrayal? Or are we with such managers (many of whom have alternate airfields in unfriendly countries) and will we continue to fight, on the mere heroism of soldiers and junior officers? hold on and win at the expense of losses, which could not have happened with good management? Well, sooooo many questions have accumulated for the General Staff and for rear rats ....

[Lykases1]

Curiously we are at war. It's just that you can't say it any other way. Maybe we can still lose?

[Silver99]

Hmm, but in the spring they laughed at Strelkov and called him an alarmist, the sinner himself did not believe him, but how it turned out, they counted the chickens in the fall (((. And they also say there are no prophets from their Fatherland. Some priests and flatterers surround the Supreme ((( ((

[know-it-two]

In the spring, at the beginning of the NWO, Strelkov said what could happen in the fall ... Then they didn’t throw rotten eggs at him ... And then autumn came ... Maybe, after all, give him the opportunity to head the command of the NWO?

[Mexican. 29]

It seems that the elevator should start working, the commanders of regiments and brigades, who have proven themselves with successful actions and have good command experience, need to be promoted because the higher “geniuses of strategy and tactics”, to put it mildly, do not quite correspond to their positions

[Hey]

It was well said in one of the posts:
- Based on the results of yesterday's ceremony of accepting Ukrainian territories into Russia, we have now handed over to the enemy not just any, but a Russian city.

[Wesker gorlovka]

Donetsk People's Republic.
Gorlovka city.
Territory of the Russian Federation.

[chingachguc]

Strelkov was right when he says that Putin wants to win, not wanting to change anything in essence. All these fat faces at the General Staff and in the field. The decision to mobilize came with great difficulty. Generals must be changed in batches. All ass lickers - retired or put on trial. And to push forward combat generals and officers, giving them complete freedom in choosing personnel

[Boris Sergeev]

How is "withdrawal to a new line of defense" different from a "gesture of good will" or "regrouping"? Oh yes! They retreated to a new line of defense, having already left the territory of Russia.

[samarin1969]

Repressions against the civilian population of Liman have already begun. And this is Russia.
It seems that the General Staff and the Moscow Region are deliberately sabotaging "SVO". At best, they demand to throw conscripts into battle in order to close their own miscalculations. At worst, they sold out.

[Valter1364]

Strelkov, here only the lazy one from the group of "sofa hurray patriots" did not pour mud. Rewind a little and listen carefully to what Strelkov said.

[Vadim Voroshilov]

Zakhar Prilepin.
Ukrainian armed forces enter the Russian city of Krasny Lyman.
To our city. In our Russian city with you.
This is how news should sound now.
Now every loss is a personal loss of the commander in chief.
The demand for losses was high. Now it will be absolute.

[Heaven]

"a swift throw from Kr. Liman to a new line of defense to Kremennaya"

Good wording. Almost like a regroup.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Shoot the Russian General Staff in full strength!!! There are only traitors!

[chingachguc]

How much time do we waste making difficult but necessary decisions. The decision to join 4 regions was correct, but half a year late. The decision to mobilize was correct, but half a year late. But to ensure these decisions, it is necessary to make others - personnel. Cadres are everything. First of all, remove Professor Gerasimov and a horde of furniture makers in the Moscow Region

[Mint Gingerbread]

When the enemy breaks forward in order to create a cauldron, he himself risks being in it, because, unlike the defenders, the attacker controls only one side of the front. The deeper the APU will penetrate the territory, the greater the chance that they themselves will be cut off. A double-edged sword, because to keep the territories behind you need the resources and people that are required for further advancement. This is compensated if the attackers have a constant influx of new forces, while the defenders do not. Ultimately, the attacker hits the limit line of concentration, when he is physically unable to advance further due to the comparability or superiority of the defenders' forces.
What is actually happening in connection with what goals or warnings is now a systematic retreat into the depths, no one knows. Military correspondents and soldiers also do not know. Only MORF and the commander-in-chief knows.

[chingachguc]

How much time do we waste making difficult but necessary decisions. The decision to join 4 regions was correct, but half a year late. The decision to mobilize was correct, but half a year late. But to ensure these decisions, it is necessary to make others - personnel. Cadres are everything. First of all, remove Professor Gerasimov and a horde of furniture makers in the Moscow Region

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Shoot the Russian General Staff in full strength!!!

There are only traitors.

[Heisenberg]

The front has not yet been stabilized, but each new step of the enemy is accompanied by increasing losses.
Author, did you sweeten the bitter pill? It is already clear to an idiot that the General Staff is working for the enemy (probably well brought), because the disgrace coming from Balakleya cannot be explained by anything other than betrayal!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Shame and shame. The entire General Staff of the RF Ministry of Defense to be arrested and shot!!!

[Drotro]

The next phase of the military drama continues. And the future is all the more worrying.
Forecast for the next trash: October 3-4. They said that in these numbers something will happen. What exactly you can not even try to guess. There is no logic anywhere. Azamat is needed, although he is unlikely to manage to find logic in what we are seeing now.

[Sniper]

Today Kupyansk and Liman.. tomorrow who?? Konashenkov reads VO ??

[52]

Bad. Very bad. It seems that they were going to release, destroyed the enemy in quantities ... And where is the result and responsibility?

[opuonmed]

The rear is alive and the infrastructure is alive, so the enemy is advancing!

[U-58]

Emotional pain and annoyance from what is happening.
Not only did the announced summer "respite" stop the unhurried retreat.
Now we are rapidly retreating. That is, we run.
I fully admit that in this particular case, the withdrawal was inevitable and justified. Let's save people.
But the overall picture is depressing.

[Adagka]

And why aren’t zhirobasov in stripes driven to the front as part of a consolidated regiment? From such a concentration of geniuses of military art in one place, the whole ukroreykh will scatter. Or does the leader want to sign other papers????

[opuonmed]

The rear is alive and the infrastructure is alive, so the enemy is advancing!

[cmax]

What is there to be surprised. Occupied and occupied. The guys were heroic, but they will not receive the stars of heroes. They did what they could.
Meanwhile they write:
"Since the beginning of the war, Ukraine, according to official data, has captured almost 400 tanks, 700 armored vehicles and 170 artillery systems from Russian troops as trophies, which exceeds the amount of military equipment provided by Western countries, according to Forbes" (the data was probably given by Ukrainians, but smoke without fire it doesn’t happen, maybe the losses are not the same as they write, but apparently sensitive for our army)

[EvilCommunist]

The betrayal of the people at the level of the General Staff, I believe only Kadyrov, Ramzan for the presidency of the Russian Federation

[Andrey A]

In the official reports of the Ministry of Defense, in general, nothing is reported about the “epoch-making” battles around Krasny Liman... Not a single word... Most likely, we are talking mainly about the actions of small reconnaissance and sabotage groups that are trying to reach our communications ... These actions are stopped!!! The rest is the fantasy of military officers... https://iz.ru/1403598/video/briefing-igoria-konashenkova-30092022

[voyaka uh]

"in connection with which a rapid rush from Kr. Liman to a new line of defense became possible" ///
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A nice new term for retreat:
"Rapid rush to a new line of defense"

[ALARI]

A rapid rush to a new line of defense in front of a completely defeated enemy. So more beautiful.

[Adagka]

Where is the next group planned? Near Lugansk?

[prodi]

Apparently, it is no longer possible to do without raising rates - i.e. begin to shoot down their satellites over their territory, reconnaissance aircraft along the borders and strike at deployment points in adjacent territories

[chetvertak]

Givi, Motorola, Bezler, and many other heroes of Donbass! They cannot be compared with the General Staff

[g_ae]

As I understand it, the “new line of defense” is located right next to the notorious “red line”. And just as mobile, by the way.

[g_ae]

As I understand it, the “new line of defense” is located right next to the notorious “red line”. And just as mobile, by the way.

[AleksT]

What's happening in Ukraine? Advancing backwards

[prodi]

It looks like it’s time to “raise the stakes” - start shooting down their satellites over our territory, reconnaissance aircraft along the borders and deployment points in adjacent territories

[Deon59]

When they talked about the regiment that came to help, I wrote earlier that the General Staff does not fight with forces larger than a company. From this regiment, a couple of platoons were visible. They used to joke that the military’s cap had only one wrinkle left. So that line led to victory. And now our commanders, instead of a convolution, are left with a gray mass in their heads that no longer thinks. And about the analysts from the General Staff, they can only roll balls in their pants.

[cmax]

I don’t even want to comment on anything, everything turns out to be a narration of the “second” army of the world and its generals. Thank you guys for your courage, but not everything depends on them.

[Viktor29]

Somehow it has not been heard that the borders beyond the Zherebets River are more profitable than along the banks of the Oskol River.
And where will they be more profitable - beyond the Aidar River in Starobelsk or beyond the city of Shchastya on the right bank of the Seversky Donets, as before 24.02?

[g_ae]

I would like the “new line of defense” not to pass next to the notorious “red line” and not to be as mobile.

[16112014nk]

a swift throw from Kr. became possible. Limana
This retreat is now called a “swift rush,” i.e. the escape. And who commands such “swift attacks”?

[ovod84]

Where the hell are our generals looking, it’s a shame. Back Khodorkovsky babbles something, some others will say it’s good that they retreated. I don’t know what they’re smoking there, I have no words.....

[Andrey A]

In the reports of the Ministry of Defense, in general, there is not a single word about the “epoch-making” battle for Krasny Liman, nothing... Most likely, small reconnaissance and sabotage groups are trying to advance on our communications... We are suppressing this activity, the rest is the imagination of local military officers ... Wittingly or unwittingly, they are fanning panic and mistrust of the military leadership. I’m not even talking about trolling in networks on this news feed: the same idea is being pushed, including here: the current leadership will send those mobilized to slaughter.... In the meantime, we are grinding and grinding the Armed Forces of Ukraine and Ukrainian military equipment... Actually, Ukraine no longer has any military equipment left, and there is no military equipment left in Eastern Europe either, which is why supplies are already coming from the USA, Germany, France and not only from there... And we will destroy all this too... https://iz. ru/1403598/video/briefing-igoria-konashenkova-30092022

[Poru4ik]

Over the past 30 years, this power has not only reduced everything, no matter what it undertakes, to zero, but has triumphantly failed. Remember how many reforms there were in medicine, education, housing and communal services, science, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, special services. services, pension reforms in my opinion there were 4, aircraft at least 5 pieces. How many promises were there, the Caucasus into a tourism cluster, the Kaliningrad-Vladivostok highway, an apartment for each family, a salary of 1000 dollars, we won’t raise the retirement age, every year, after raising it, there will be an increase of 1000 rubles, negative economic growth, there will be no mobilization, a constitution indestructible, etc., etc. Anyone can continue this list ad infinitum. What was the result? Not even zero, but simply a scorched desert of hopes. Essentially the current government is IMPOTENT. And expecting her to keep her promise this time is simply ridiculous. And I think we’ll soon hear something like “a retreat to level the front line”

[AlexTires]

Well, that means they will continue on other lines of defense... Good luck to the boys

[Maxim Sergeevich]

If we accept the version that the 4th class on the Russian side is still in control of the war now. Then I’m afraid and I’m really afraid, but what’s in reality in the Russian Federation in part 3, or also,.........

[Anyuta Glorious]

My nerves can no longer stand it. War - whatever you call it - is war! In which there is a clear task: to defeat the enemy quickly and with minimal losses. Otherwise, the war turns into a massacre.
Some Russian patriots like, on occasion, to neigh over the countries of Europe, which Hitler captured almost effortlessly. Most of all they laugh at Denmark, the war with which lasted 6 hours (and in fact - 2 hours, because two hours and twenty minutes after the start of hostilities by the Germans, the Danish king Christian X ordered the Danish armed forces to stop resistance. There were simply technical problems with the delivery of this order into place, so in some places the Danish military still shot for several hours).
And how did it happen that Denmark actually fell in two hours? Because the German operation began with two main attacks - at 5 in the morning, German planes crossed the border with Denmark and smashed Danish aviation to smithereens at airfields (just in case), and at 5.15 in the morning of the same April 9, 1940, German light ships broke into the port of Copenhagen, landed troops, which quickly captured all the government offices of the capital, including the general headquarters of the armed forces of Denmark and the king's palace. At the same time, the Danish battleship "Niels Yuel" was standing at the far pier in Copenhagen, which could give mooring lines in 15 minutes, approach the landing site of the German landing force and scatter everyone with their guns, but while the ship's commander announced the alarm and tried to contact his leadership, then contact him was no longer with anyone! The entire leadership, starting with the king, fell into German captivity.
What can an army do if its general headquarters has been completely captured/destroyed and all channels of communication and information have been disrupted? In principle, it can’t do anything. Although I am ready to admit that if Russia were the size of Denmark, then after the fall of the capital 2 hours after the start of the war, our military would have been partisans for another month.
The “special military operation” began, among other things, with the fact that on the night of February 25, 2022, 200 helicopters landed on an airfield near Kiev. What next??? The airfield is captured so that heavy military transport planes with armored vehicles can land there and rush to Kyiv. But 200 helicopters equal 1600 paratroopers (if the Mi-24, and if the Mi-8 then much more)! This was more than enough to take Kyiv by surprise and capture the government quarter early in the morning of February 25, immediately depriving the Armed Forces of Ukraine of its main control and communications.
The principle of the successful conduct of any war - even at sea, even on land - is the only one, most concisely formulated by Suvorov: "EYE, SPEED, ONRESS", where "eye" is the ability to quickly and accurately determine the position of one's own and the enemy, the enemy's forces and conditions on the ground. Here the army of the GDP has a problem with all three positions. Maybe something will change after this mobilization, we'll see.

[1984]

rams under the command of lions will always win, lions under the command of rams will always lose, the old proverb I don’t remember whose.....

[1984]

rams under the command of lions will always win, lions under the command of rams will always lose, the old proverb...

[PVV66]

How much can you pay for the mediocrity and illiteracy of generals with the blood of soldiers?!

[tatarin1972]

We'll wait to see what kind of waffle the Ministry of Defense will tell us on television, probably for something to change we need to drive the entire General Staff into the trenches, but I think that they won't succeed even in this version, since they can't fight with their heads, then they can really fight too They don’t know how, or have already forgotten how. Maybe it would be better for them to send the guys who died to be delivered to their homeland, so that the relatives would say everything they think to them, with their hands, in the face.

[lelik613]

Arestovich 3.14 is open, and the bastards are latent Hindenburgs.

[lelik613]

Arestovich 3.14 is open, and gentlemen "G...indenburgs are latent.

[Ivan Ivanov]

To fight Nazism, a different level of organization and consolidation is needed, this is becoming obvious, this has been talked about for a long time. How can an army, an economy, a society in peacetime (essentially a liberal jelly) fight against forces that are many times superior?

Prilepin writes

In Russia now everything should be different. It is clear that nothing changes in an instant. But in a month I would like in the best sense: not to know my country.
Because only a new country will give new victories at the front. The old one did everything she could.
She did a lot. But its limits were visible. We saw them.
We saw peacetime economics, peacetime culture, peacetime governors and even peacetime generals.
The new country should have no limits and no peacetime. Acceleration, impulse and mobilization at all levels.
Otherwise, it wasn’t even worth starting yesterday’s celebration.

[gafovec]

Hmm... This is already the territory of Russia, it seems... In my opinion, it’s either another disgrace (pro... “sudden attack”), or a very cunning plan to lure the enemy. But where should we stop on the Moscow Ring Road or on Russky Island?

[gafovec]

Hmm... This is already the territory of Russia, it seems... In my opinion, it’s either another disgrace (pro... “sudden attack”), or a very cunning plan to lure the enemy. But where should we stop on the Moscow Ring Road or on Russky Island?

[gafovec]

Hmm... This is already the territory of Russia, it seems... In my opinion, it’s either another disgrace (pro... “sudden attack”), or a very cunning plan to lure the enemy. But where should we stop on the Moscow Ring Road or on Russky Island?

[hump]

The defenders of Liman sent the Russian General Staff to hell and defend the city. The population takes up arms to help our

[AAK]

Zelebober demanded from his generals to take Liman by the 30th, a day later, but they took it on 01.10.22/5/85 ... And what did the Supreme demand from his generals? Where to go next?! Liman was stormed by 90 VFU brigades, staffed by 1-500% + 3000 Troop brigade + a serious group of mercenaries, but being carried away by the organization of "holiday" concerts, our leadership was able to allocate ONE incomplete regiment as reinforcements and, allegedly, threw several FAB-XNUMX and one or two FAB-XNUMXs on the advancing dill, but they got really frightened ... for the evening in the articles and comments there was a joyful squeal - "the lights were lit, help came, Gondor came out!..." and what ?! The result - on the face or in the muzzle ... departed "according to the newly approved plan! .." Everywhere you look - everywhere you look is fat and hairy, and Ours squeaked at a solemn meeting about the next "negotiation process" and that's it ... there are no gas pipelines, reinforcements no, there is no return of cities and villages from where the "heroic" guardsmen came from - no, there are no normal military operations, there is no aviation work, in general, there is no shit !!! It looks like His Serene Highness stupidly does not dare to press the "shoulder straps" properly, apparently he is afraid that they, from their unwillingness to stay without them and go either to the tribunal, or as privates to the penal company, will simply collide with the "Pinocchio" and then - hello The Hague !!! the classic was right - the circle is narrow and they are terribly far away, because they are stupid and cowardly ...

[Altmann]

Liman's defense simply collapsed. This is a retreat, but not a flight. The soldiers on the front line, as well as the commander, should be grateful for this protection. It was simply impossible to weaken any sector; the firepower and numerical superiority of the Ukrainians, and especially the supply of weapons from the United States, played a role. Sometimes it's better to retreat and become a hero in the next battle.

[Arkady007]

The heroes of the generals for Syria must be sent to the first ranks of defense.
This will be fair to those who are mobilized.

[Dartanian]

If we compare, the conclusions are disappointing:
Ukraine
1.talked about weapons = NATO supplies everything
2.they promised an offensive = they exist, and the pace is not small
3. They screamed loudly about supporting the economy = money is being poured in by all and sundry
4.they promised extra action = well, that’s it, criminals at resorts
Russia
1. denazification = failed
2.demilitarization=failed
3.NATO is not in Ukraine=provoen (weapons, instructors, mercenaries with entire contingents)
4. let’s get to Lvov = level the front in the Donetsk area
5. If there’s no mobilization, we’ll manage anyway = well, everyone knows that anyway
6. We beat Nazis every day by the thousands = the kraken is alive and well
7. we beat the Nazi army to the fullest = Konashenkov beat everyone on the 3rd circle
8. Nazis will be tried and shot = on a private plane to Turkish resorts
9. red lines = there are no words at all, a rare lie
There are so many other things you can compare, but you just don’t want to, with such a human feat, why such crap development?!?!!

[Zaurbek]

Now you can be a general, they say..... The combatants don’t stay there..... They have formed their own elite there.

[Altmann]

Liman's defense simply collapsed. This is a retreat, but not a flight. The soldiers on the front line, as well as the commander, should be grateful for this protection. It was simply impossible to weaken any sector; the firepower and numerical superiority of the Ukrainians, and especially the supply of weapons from the United States, played a role. Sometimes it's better to retreat and become a hero in the next battle.

[hump]

Wins are leaked. War when they throw down their weapons and straighten out the front reminds us of 1944

[MaKeNa]

It’s sad, but 3 weeks ago I said: “Nothing in the SVO will change as long as the guarantor is in command.” Here is the result. I’m silent about infrastructure. I repeat again - this is a war of politicians, the generals don’t decide anything, that’s why they are silent!!!

[MaKeNa]

Yes, by the way, “The military correspondents stated...” and the Ministry of Defense ?????? Nothing changes! Nothing!!!!

[Ivan Ivanov]

In Russia now everything should be different. It is clear that nothing changes in an instant. But in a month I would like in the best sense: not to know my country.
Because only a new country will give new victories at the front. The old one did everything she could.

She did a lot. But its limits were visible. We saw them.

We saw peacetime economics, peacetime culture, peacetime governors and even peacetime generals.

The new country should have no limits and no peacetime. Acceleration, impulse and mobilization at all levels.
Otherwise, it wasn’t even worth starting yesterday’s celebration.

[KAZAK67]

It’s a pity that help didn’t come, reinforcements weren’t sent. There are only two of us left, you... or... BG

[Tatyana Makarova]

Due to the threat of encirclement, the allied forces abandoned Krasny Liman and retreated to more advantageous positions, the Ministry of Defense said.
The department noted that over the past 66 hours, strikes on the positions of the 93th and 200rd mechanized brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces destroyed more than XNUMX military personnel killed, five tanks and nine infantry fighting vehicles.
“Despite the losses suffered, having a significant superiority in forces and means, the enemy brought in reserves and continued the offensive in this direction,” the Ministry of Defense added.

[Trunk]

Lapin, according to Kadyrov, is in command in this direction. Commanded from Lugansk. Completed the command. Eh, Joseph Vissarionovich! How you are missed. Your will to achieve goals, your ability to manage and demand!

[zenion]

A cunning redirection, they knocked themselves out of Liman. This is due to a goodwill gift, free of charge. We don’t feel sorry, here you choke. They were pushed for two weeks, but the commander-in-chief did not know about it. These servants did not say a word to His High Majesty, so as not to disturb his sleep.

[Lyuba1965_01]

I completely agree with Kadyrov.
And it would also be good to return to Stalin’s “every problem has a name and surname.”
Without this we will never achieve anything.
https://www.politnavigator.net/vpervye-kadyrov-nazval-generalov-vinovnykh-v-potere-limana.html
https://www.politnavigator.net/vpervye-kadyrov-nazval-generalov-vinovnykh-v-potere-limana.html

[Vadmir]

After yesterday’s signing of the agreements, Krasny Liman is already part of Russia and surrendering it is equivalent to surrendering any city in the Belgorod region or any other region of Russia.
Putin yesterday:
New Russia has returned to Russia forever - Russia will not betray the choice of the people.

[Cartalon]

Well, Kasada broke through, he wrote that General Colonel Lapin bears personal responsibility.

[TatarinSSSR]

We are waiting for Konashkov’s pathetic and indifferent speech about the planned “redeployment”. The main thing is that the General Staff doesn’t care about everything that happens. This is very bad. The dissatisfaction of the military at the front with the higher command will one day lead to disastrous consequences for the authorities. It’s time for the commander-in-chief to think about it, or is this all happening - an agreement and the guys are dying for the sake of behind-the-scenes selfish interests?

[km-21]

The Liman garrison fulfilled its duty with honor, but the exploits of ordinary soldiers are often the result of mistakes by their command. In my opinion, long before the “special operation” a very serious mistake was made - underestimating the enemy. The command planned a war with Zelensky and his clique, but ran into a war with the United States and NATO. No mobilization can save the situation, neither partial nor complete. This war cannot be won with machine guns, tanks and planes. The only thing that can save us is raising rates. It seems that we can no longer do without nuclear weapons. It’s time for the Poles and Romanians to prepare for attacks on logistics hubs on their territory.