In the US press: On the way to NATO, Ukraine will face serious obstacles

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In the US press: On the way to NATO, Ukraine will face serious obstacles

On the way to NATO, Ukraine will face serious obstacles. After all, Moscow is extremely negative about the desire of the Kyiv authorities to join the alliance.

Columnists of the American newspaper The New York Times argue on this topic.



The US press notes that the fears of Western countries about the possible expansion of the conflict zone and its aggravation in the event of Ukraine joining the North Atlantic Alliance have not gone away. In particular, the most powerful European powers, Germany and France, did not support Kyiv's aspirations for NATO. And the Biden administration made no effort to get Ukraine admitted to the alliance, avoiding a possible direct armed conflict with Russia.

On the other hand, the Kremlin's decision to annex the republics of Donbass, as well as the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, to the Russian Federation, the authors of an article in the NYT believe, may change this point of view of the United States and its allies.

Although the North Atlantic Alliance proclaims an “open door” policy, Ukraine may not pass through these “doors” due to a mismatch with the necessary criteria for this. After all, only countries where democracy reigns, as it is understood in the West, and laws are respected, are accepted there. And Ukraine hardly fits such a description.

Yesterday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky demanded that his country be admitted to the North Atlantic Alliance on an expedited basis. He claims that, in fact, Kyiv is already a NATO ally, it remains only to document this.
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  1. +3
    1 October 2022 13: 53
    Although the North Atlantic Alliance proclaims an “open door” policy, Ukraine may not pass through these “doors” due to a mismatch with the necessary criteria for this. After all, only countries where democracy reigns, as it is understood in the West, and laws are respected, are accepted there. And Ukraine hardly fits such a description.
    The Wax Museum is always happy to open its doors to a new exhibit.
    1. +2
      1 October 2022 14: 00
      Zelensky again plays his role, but already bloody ..
      How much blood is on it! There are already many hunters for him ..
      But there is no order!
      PS Who did you Semyon so otminusal? You seem to write well
      1. +2
        1 October 2022 14: 12
        Yesterday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky demanded that his country be admitted to the North Atlantic Alliance on an expedited basis.

        Zelensky's "Bloody Jester" has long since lost "his country"!
        And there is only the territory of used Ukraine with the people who hate the drug addict Zelensky.

        And even this used Ukrainian territory, the "Bloody Jester" and the power-hungry Zelensky, for the sake of his own power, has long since sold himself and is now just a Gauleiter of the United States on it.
        1. -1
          1 October 2022 14: 20
          Quote: Tatiana
          Yesterday, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky demanded that his country be admitted to the North Atlantic Alliance on an expedited basis.

          Zelensky's "Bloody Jester" has long since lost "his country"!
          And there is only the territory of used Ukraine with the people who hate the drug addict Zelensky.

          And even this territory Zelensky himself has long sold out and is just a Gauleiter of the United States on it.

          Tatyana is our smart girl Greetings! love soldier
          Everything is so .. Zelensky-Valtsman, everything has already been sold and resold
          And they poured blood over Ukraine ...
          The most dangerous thing is when they run away with bags, then they will start to undermine everything. Don't give up on anyone out of anger!
          But Russia will know the courses of their running around and financial transactions hi No one escapes retribution
      2. +3
        1 October 2022 14: 16
        Quote from gansales
        Zelensky again plays his role, but already bloody ..
        How much blood is on it! There are already many hunters for him ..
        But there is no order!

        I came across an interesting post online:
        Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny received the Chief Rabbi of Ukraine Moshe Reuven Azman at the General Staff and received a blessing for victory and sincere words of support for Ukraine and its Armed Forces in the war with Russia.

        Zaluzhny believes that Ukraine should become, by analogy with Israel, a military state. He said that the parties devoted the conversation to discussing the appointment of a Jew as a military chaplain and ensuring the spiritual needs of military personnel.

        1. +1
          1 October 2022 15: 46
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Valeriy Zaluzhny received Chief Rabbi of Ukraine Moshe Reuven Azman at the General Staff

          "Look, in a year a boar is sitting on TV, mug, that ass, still teaches me how to live, you bastard!" K / f "Brother-2" hi
      3. -1
        1 October 2022 15: 04
        Zelensky fans. Lovers of objectivism high humidity at low atmospheric pressure of the mercury column. And if in four letters, then "local" TsIPSO. feel
        1. -2
          1 October 2022 15: 09
          Quote: oppozite28
          Zelensky fans. Lovers of objectivism high humidity at low atmospheric pressure of the mercury column. And if in four letters then TsIPSO, "local". feel

          Well, Semyon .. I understand, but very wary hehe
        2. -2
          1 October 2022 15: 39
          Quote: oppozite28
          Zelensky fans. Lovers of objectivism high humidity at low atmospheric pressure of the mercury column. And if in four letters, then "local" TsIPSO. feel

          Well, don't be too liberal hi
          1. -1
            1 October 2022 15: 44
            Well, don't be too liberal
            A balanced, adequate commentary should be like a toast on a hunt, like a shot. Otherwise, there will be no time for rest. smile
            1. -3
              2 October 2022 08: 10
              Quote: oppozite28
              Well, don't be too liberal
              A balanced, adequate commentary should be like a toast on a hunt, like a shot. Otherwise, there will be no time for rest. smile

              To the point Semyon! good
      4. 0
        1 October 2022 22: 08
        Am I the only one who notices that, in the context of the NWO, the March, "old badyaga" begins "on a new one"? ..

        On the one hand, again, literally from all sides and literally simultaneously - from Trump, to the Pope (with "Merkels", "Erdogans", etc. in between), there is an annoying croaking about some "mediation" in some "negotiations" with the FAR NOT DONE yet (remember the TWO MAIN tasks of the NVO - complete DEMILITARIZATION and complete DENATIVALIZATION of the regime on the territory of the former united Ukraine), on the other hand, strange statements are heard-"demands" of President Putin (but also the Supreme Commander-in-Chief ...) to Kyiv to the Nazis, about "a ceasefire and the beginning of negotiations" ... Is he serious? ..

        Somehow I didn't understand. The Russians, that "under the fanfare" of the referendums held in Novorossiya and the return of the territories of the Zaporozhye, Kherson, Luhansk and Donetsk regions to Russia, want to "begin preparing" for the statements of the authorities that the tasks of the NWO "thereby" supposedly "solved"?. .

        In fact, the return of these territories to Russia is not even a "step", but hardly a "quarter of a step" towards achieving the MAIN tasks of the NVO - the COMPLETE demilitarization of the Kyiv Nazi regime (which is possible only by the COMPLETE and IRREVERSIBLE destruction of its MILITARY and MILITARY INDUSTRIAL potential and COMPLETE DENACIATION of the Kyiv Nazi regime (which is achievable only by the COMPLETE DESTRUCTION of its TOP, as a MINIMUM, and not by the "beginning" of some kind of muddy "negotiations" with its Nazi representatives). in the initial period of SVO,
        again, it turns out to be "ready". Only, at the same time, he makes a "terrible face" and broadcasts with a "terrible voice" ...

        What will the Russians actually get?..

        And what we received in March, April, etc. - Kyiv Nazis and their masters will receive the required lead time for preparing a PRACTICAL organization and implementing the procedure for accepting the territories of the former united Ukraine, which are now under the control of Kyiv Nazis, into a relic of NATO. At the same time, the process itself, outwardly, will be draped with loud statements about "disagreements" in the NATO camp on this issue. Incl. and "skepticism" on the part of the United States and Fatherland, etc. ... And the "negotiations" already mentioned above, with their endless breaks "to agree" on proposals for certain "compromises". And when the US and NATO "procedurally" prepare and clearly plan their further OPERATIONAL and STRATEGIC plans, also - PRACTICAL actions ALREADY on the territory of the former united Ukraine, the Kyiv Nazis will impudently and loudly send Russian "negotiators" through the "forest". And they will loudly, already referring to Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty, demand the introduction of NATO relic forces into the territory of the former united Ukraine?..

        And "chewing snot", in response to these demands of the Kyiv Natsiks, THE US and NATO, PRACTICALLY PREPARED, will no longer be, unlike the Kremlin inhabitants ...

        Wherein...

        1. The territory of the Odessa region (and with it access to the Black Sea area) will not be blocked for them.
        2. Pridnestrovie and the Russian military contingent in it will be blocked and will, in fact, find themselves in the status of permanent hostages, with which it is possible to blackmail Russia almost endlessly, at least causing both international and INSIDE national reputational damage to it (an impotent person who "can't do anything able") and as a maximum, transforming the aforementioned minimum, into a DIRECT and BIG and ACUTE MILITARY threat to Russia's national security.

        I remind you that in October, if my memory serves me right, there will be a so-called. "Big Twenty". And the States are going to "bring" the Kyiv clown to it. And all sorts of "Erdogans - intermediaries" will surely arrange a "meeting on the sidelines" with Putin for the clown. After that, the Russians will be "pleased" with another crap about some "temporary compromises reached." In some "issues of status" of the territories of Crimea, and the regions that became part of Russia based on the results of referendums.

        And in a year, two, three, etc. the Kyiv Nazis, SAVING and INCREASING their MILITARY potential to create a threat to Russia, slowly and carefully
        having prepared and joined NATO, they will again begin the "process of returning the territories illegally annexed" by Russia ...
  2. 0
    1 October 2022 13: 58
    . After all, only countries where democracy reigns, as it is understood in the West, are accepted there,

    Democracy by Western standards is a very flexible concept. Although Zelensky and the company are unlikely to succeed, there simply won’t be enough time to just persuade everyone.
  3. +6
    1 October 2022 14: 01
    Volodymyr Zelensky demanded that his country be admitted to the North Atlantic Alliance in an expedited manner.
    Not in a position to claim

    He asked, asked, and suddenly began to demand. The owners did not understand and gave a thrashing.
    1. -1
      1 October 2022 14: 10
      Quote: rotmistr60
      He asked, asked, and suddenly began to demand. The owners did not understand and gave a thrashing.

      Hi Gennady!!! hi
      War to the last Bandera, Zelya received such an order!
      And Russia is satisfied with this We wet by all means, and they all climb and climb hehe DENTIFICATION!
      And then .. with others ..

      This is how you have to ask everyone in Kyiv, etc.
    2. +1
      1 October 2022 14: 13
      Quote: rotmistr60
      He asked, asked, and suddenly began to demand. The owners did not understand and gave a thrashing.

      But Stoltenberg's speech really pleased me.
      About Stoltenberg's speech: "They expected murders from him, but he ate a chizhik."
      Everyone was sure that NATO would now stand along the borders of Zaporozhye, Kherson and the LDNR, and Putin would not take a step further, otherwise he would fight NATO.
      Now it is clear: the West blinked. He chickened out not even a nuclear, but an energy war with Russia. Zelensky can write statements to NATO as much as he wants, but he will not be accepted and they will not fight Russia for him - not their plans.
      Bad news for Zelensky. Very bad. I think from today Ukraine has lost the war to Russia, no matter where its troops are now. Germany also lost the war not in May of the 45th, but in December of the 41st. When I got up near Moscow. Everything else was just a matter of time.
      Putin took revenge. Gained the initiative. Now it's up to the military, and this is not a quick topic. Time is against Ukraine and the West, and Russia will winter. Now you can't lose momentum.


      http://новости-киева.ru-an.info/новости/зеленский-проиграл-войну-с-россией-30-сентября-столтенберг-подтвердил/
    3. +1
      1 October 2022 14: 18
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Volodymyr Zelensky demanded that his country be admitted to the North Atlantic Alliance in an expedited manner.

      This is for internal use only.
  4. 0
    1 October 2022 14: 04
    Ukraine, of course, will be taken into NATO. But later... When Ukraine ceases to exist. Everything is a question of time.
  5. +3
    1 October 2022 14: 04
    The "naive boy" thinks that NATO will fight instead of Ukraine! Although it supplies weapons and mercenaries, but officially "we have nothing to do with it!"
    1. -1
      1 October 2022 15: 17
      Quote: Egoza
      The "naive boy" thinks that NATO will fight instead of Ukraine! Although it supplies weapons and mercenaries, but officially "we have nothing to do with it!"

      This Jewish funny boy played his main role in the destruction of Ukraine and the blood of the Slavs!
      And he has already earned as much as the Ukrainian budget for the year ..
      Soon he will run to the egg ..

      He is already waiting for him with bucks
  6. +1
    1 October 2022 14: 06
    Only the elimination of nuclear weapons by the Anglo-Saxons will solve the problem of the entire planet.
  7. 0
    1 October 2022 14: 07
    Completely destroy this incomplete country, no NATO on our lands!
  8. +1
    1 October 2022 14: 09
    Today, Ukraine's belonging to NATO or OBATO has no fundamental significance.
  9. +2
    1 October 2022 14: 15
    Even Zelensky knows that Ukraine will not be accepted into NATO until peace is concluded. It's just theater. If Ukraine invokes Article 5, it will destroy the advantages of NATO for many member countries. And this will destroy NATO, because not everyone will help.

    People may be happy with the supply of weapons, but they do not want to die in a nuclear fire for Ukrainian irredentism. Whether the elites want a militarily strong, united and ultra-nationalist Ukraine is also highly questionable. They can create an alliance with Poland and other Visegrad countries, which will change the balance of power in Europe.
  10. 0
    1 October 2022 14: 17
    On the way to NATO, Ukraine will face serious obstacles

    ***
    Harsh years go
    Fight for the freedom of the country!
    Others come for them
    They will be difficult too ...



    ***
  11. -3
    1 October 2022 14: 42
    Judging by the way the RF Armed Forces are fleeing from the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv direction, they do not really need joining NATO.
  12. +2
    1 October 2022 14: 50
    NATO cannot predict what other areas will break away from Ukraine in the foreseeable future, and therefore took a wait-and-see attitude in order to eventually accept only the stub that remains from the Sumerians. If there is anything left at all.
    1. -3
      1 October 2022 15: 26
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      NATO cannot predict what other areas will break away from Ukraine in the foreseeable future, and therefore took a wait-and-see attitude in order to eventually accept only the stub that remains from the Sumerians. If there is anything left at all.

      Russia will push back the border as much as possible .. We can capture the Poles with the help of Bandera and fleeing Jews hehe
      Well, it's in the future! In the meantime, the war is very serious
    2. +2
      1 October 2022 15: 34
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      and therefore took a wait-and-see attitude, in order to eventually accept only the stub that remains from the Sumerians.

      To chew and spit...
  13. +1
    1 October 2022 15: 29
    tihonmarine (Vlad), what a touching photo, what unity - a Jew of Bandera and a Ukrainian Nazi! And in order not to be accused of anti-Semitism, I am a Jew living in Israel and knowing my ancestry from the middle of the 18th century!!!
  14. +1
    1 October 2022 15: 49
    Dobré divadlo pro lidi. Ukrajinský klaun Zelený spolu s Jensem Stoltenbergem, vystudovaným ekonomem a agentem KGB pod kodovým jménem "Steklov", rozhodují o vyzbrojení Banderovců na Ukrajině.
  15. 0
    2 October 2022 18: 14
    You can say what you want!
    I know they will join the NATO

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