The Ukrainian military published footage with the flag at the entrance to Krasny Lyman

From the vicinity of Krasny Liman, footage is published by the Ukrainian military. Recall that for several weeks, Ukrainian troops, suffering more than significant losses, moved towards this city in the north of the Donetsk Republic, either taking individual villages near Krasny Liman under their control, or losing them.

At the moment, footage appears showing two Ukrainian servicemen unfurling a flag at the entrance to Liman. In the background you can see a stele and an architectural composition with the name of the settlement. According to some reports, this is a stele on the northwestern outskirts of the city.

Sergei Cherevaty, a representative of the Vostok Armed Forces, meanwhile, is spreading a statement about the alleged encirclement of "Russian troops near Liman." According to Cherevaty, Yampol, Stavki, Drobyshevo, Novoselovka, Shandrigolovo have now come under the control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

At the same time, military correspondents from the scene reported earlier that the Headquarters were repulsed by our troops. There is also a road of communication Krasny Liman - Torskoye - Kremennaya. Recall that Krasny Liman territorially belongs to the Donetsk People's Republic, and Kremennaya is part of the LPR.

At the moment, the fighting around the Red Liman continues. At the same time, information appears that Russian reserves approached the city from the east. As the participants in the battles themselves note, the phrase “the situation is not easy” is incomprehensible to them, since “by definition, it simply does not happen in a war.”

Comments

[dnestr74]

I don’t understand a damn thing ... God grant our guys good luck and come back alive.
Does Putin have Internet access?

[Foundling]

Hardly! At best, Konashenkov

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Foundling

Hardly! At best, Konashenkov

the sands are still driving a blizzard ...

[flicker]

the sands are still driving a blizzard ..

Peskov may be driving us, we cannot answer for him, but we can for ourselves. Therefore, they themselves must stop carrying the blizzard.
You need to be patient.

[Andy_nsk]

And what's incomprehensible here, two Ukrainian soldiers got to the outskirts of the city and took a picture there. Liman has not been surrendered, I hope that sufficient reinforcements will be sent there to prevent a complete encirclement and keep Liman under control. Putin is much more informed than any of us.

[Foundling]

How to Balakleya? Have you heard anything about the reinforcements of the Kharkov region?

[neworange88]

Quote: Foundling

How to Balakleya? Have you heard anything about the reinforcements of the Kharkov region?

Well, what kind of nonsense is it to surrender cities without a fight, leaving a bunch of equipment to the enemy. When will this end or someone decided to drain everything? DPR, there is no DPR, this is already on the territory of sovereign Russia, so for a minute. Maybe it’s worth fighting for real, and not in the ratio of 1 to 10 to conduct NVO? We will continue like this and there will be nothing left of Russia by the end of the year. I haven’t realized my habit yet, which means that it’s all the same that the battles are now going on somewhere in Samara, the Crimea, Moscow. Our cities are being attacked. And we are surrendering them right now. .

URGENT: Our troops withdrew from Krasny Liman | Russian spring
In order to avoid encirclement, our troops retreated in an organized manner from Krasny Liman to previously prepared reserve positions.
Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1664622768

[poquello]

Quote from: neworange88

Quote: Foundling

How to Balakleya? Have you heard anything about the reinforcements of the Kharkov region?

Well, what kind of nonsense is it to hand over cities without a fight, leaving a bunch of equipment to the enemy. When will it end or someone decided to drain everything? Stop embarrassing yourself already. to fight for real, and not in the ratio of 1 to 10 to conduct NWO?

URGENT: Our troops withdrew from Krasny Liman | Russian spring
In order to avoid encirclement, our troops retreated in an organized manner from Krasny Liman to previously prepared reserve positions.
Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1664622768

and even there the author is not visible

[Sergei V]

and that in the background, except for gusts of wind, silence does not bother you

[Olga]

A brazen demonstration for the whole world - the crosses on the vehicles, no longer hidden by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, "embarrass" me (to put it mildly)

[Synoid]

These are not embarrassed by anything, just to throw it on the fan.
Rear-wheel drive banderlogs and their sympathetic trash.

[Rt-xnumx]

These don't bother

Ukroinskaya army is the Soviet army of the Stalin era.
Not sensitive to loss. It is necessary to lay down 5 - he will lay down. It is necessary to kill 000 - it will kill. It is necessary to put 25 in the graves - put it.
Victory at any cost.

[Negro]

Quote: Rt-12

Not sensitive to loss. It is necessary to lay down 5 - he will lay down. It is necessary to kill 000 - it will kill. It is necessary to put 25 in the graves - put it.

And who told you that they have big losses?

[Rt-xnumx]

And who told you that they have big losses?

Konashenkov. Something is wrong?

[Negro]

The Armed Forces of Ukraine, 200 thousand people, were completely destroyed in the summer. Where are the losses coming from now?

[Rt-xnumx]

Where are the losses coming from now?

Mobilization, sir. 700 thousand. Not?

[Negro]

So the mobs are coming? Here are the tough boys.

[Rt-xnumx]

Here are the tough boys.

Smoked lads.

[Negro]

Where would one get such a smoke? Blue seems to be doing poorly militarily.

[Rt-xnumx]

Blue doesn't seem to work well.

Yes, the blue does not work well. But the drugs - just right.
And on the offensive!

Where would one get such a smoke?

You know!

[52]

For 8 years they have both navigation and tablets with a real situation that update the picture every 10 minutes. And platoon commanders have these tablets as the norm. Updates from pin.do.stan satellites and AWACS. They see and know how to show more than Almaty and Boomerangs in parades.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote from Andy_nsk

And what's incomprehensible here, two Ukrainian soldiers got to the outskirts of the city and took a picture there.

The mobile border post has already been seen. And the flag is Ukrainian ... I put it in my pocket - and that's it. A necessary thing in war is to blow your nose there ... Or to wipe yourself ...

[poquello]

Quote from Andy_nsk

And what's incomprehensible here, two Ukrainian soldiers got to the outskirts of the city and took a picture there. Liman has not been surrendered, I hope that sufficient reinforcements will be sent there to prevent a complete encirclement and keep Liman under control. Putin is much more informed than any of us.

ours in Liman, on the outskirts of dill, the road to Kremennaya is intact, but dill drgs are popping up, so far

[kventinasd]

Are you more informed?
Here you already have the center of Liman.

[poquello]

Quote: kventinasd

Are you more informed?
Here you already have the center of Liman.

is this a park? what trees and poles?

[Gpn27]

Why did you publish the photo of the battle in Kharkov dated February 27.02.2022, XNUMX in an article about Liman?
https://dzen.ru/media/id/6287654a0bc85e7099d639cf/podvig-russkogo-specnaza-shturmovavshego-harkov-na-tigrah-62f3dc454f3ab4418c92e5f9

[Alex Nevs]

This is a cisco, has already run away, they opened it. And his avka corresponds, he communicates somewhere with monkeys.

[kventinasd]

Well, if you don’t believe the military commissars, it’s your problem to consider everyone who provides at least a little other information as cissoshniks.

[Alex Nevs]

I'll "draw" a hundred buckets of such bullshit. Come on, pull up any Mui Ne from the "eavesdropping" of the SBU or the "sucking" of Zelupen zi Lvov.

[kventinasd]

Well, let's draw. How is it with Lyman, are you still holding on?

[Alex Nevs]

Well, another one of your "splendor". One two three .. four villages, cities. and .... Doesn't Four Awesome Regions count? Compare? carrots

[Gpn27]

Do you have anything to say about the cropped photo of the battles in Kharkov?

[Alex Nevs]

You see, he jumped over to other "shooters"

[MMX]

This photo is old from Kharkov.

[Urs]

The essence of the introduction of reserves, as you correctly said, "sufficient reinforcements will be sent there to prevent complete encirclement", it makes no sense to stuff the settlement itself with troops, it can really turn out to be a "bag".
And I completely agree about GDP, this person knows everything, well, or almost everything about NWO.

[Sergei V]

The fact of the matter is that these supposedly "reinforcements" were only virtual in the minds of military correspondents, and were declared only to raise their spirits

[DenVB]

Quote from Andy_nsk

Putin is much more informed than any of us.

Yes. On the day of the fall of Izyum, Putin rode around Moscow with Sobyanin, opened the Ferris wheel and admired the fireworks. And about Raisins, he, perhaps, has not yet been told.

[Andy_nsk]

Do you still believe in the Russian folk epic about the "good tsar and bad boyars" who hide information from him? I do not believe such a sucker will not stay in power even for a week. Putin certainly has a very large amount of information, the fact that some people are chasing him and disinformation is also, of course, the place to be, and, most importantly, what conclusions he draws. I am also not enthusiastic about the course of the operation, there are a lot of simply failed moments, in my opinion, but this is another question, all this is by no means due to Putin's lack of access to the Internet.

[DenVB]

Quote from Andy_nsk

Do you still believe in the Russian folk epic about the "good tsar and bad boyars" who hide information from him?

This is not a question of bad boyars who are hiding something. This is a question of a one-man form of government, where something can be done only by the explicit will of the supreme ruler. Such a form of government can be effective only when the ruler has sufficient intellect and temperament to extract and analyze information on his own, without relying on court sycophants. If the ruler does not have such talents, the situation will develop from bad to worse. Compare two extreme cases - Peter I and Nicholas II.

[Urs]

I will support.
If you look at the latest history of the development of the Russian state, then GDP can be attributed to the individuals you indicated, and this is true.
The main thing is not a biased impartial analysis and everything will fall into place.
I am not an ardent Putinist, I have many claims both to myself and to the government, but I do not respect what has been done GDP, I can not and will not.

[chetvertak]

He says that he is not engaged in military operations! For this, there is the Ministry of Defense. The GDP is sent there. Therefore, our president can ride, open the wheel, in Veliky Novgorod, read to us about the 1000-year history of statehood. talk about Orthodoxy and patriotism during a special operation in Ukraine.
I have another question? What does the General Staff do if there has been no war for 20 years? He does not sign contracts with the military-industrial complex, he does not deal with military acceptance, he does not write TTZ General Staff. Konashenkov speaks from the Moscow Region, but zero from the General Staff

[Rt-xnumx]

Unfortunately Lyman left. Hopefully not for long.

[free]

It was published yesterday that the defense of the Liman passes along the border of the residential development of the city, and in the photo there is a stele along the administrative boundaries of the city, the Liman is under our control

[Vladislav_2]

The borders of any region are 10-15 km! The fact that they deployed their "ensign" does not say anything! ... there is time and means to drive them out of there. They are with the border post, which they permed for kilometers ... they arranged a photo session

[Bulrumeb]

And what is the Liman region? It's good to cast bullets. In this case, this is the border of the settlement.

[Thrifty]

When will they stop telling us "tales from Konashenkov"? The best way to fight fakes is to tell the truth, no matter how bitter it is!

[cold wind]

Liman our troops left. APU in the city center.
This is not the worst option, the encirclement and defeat of our group in the city would be many times more significant loss.
At least the General Staff can do something. In time to carry out a "regrouping", now this is the name of the retreat.

[Urs]

Where did the information come from "Our troops left the Liman. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are in the city center."
From Aristovich Then I congratulate you, you are a "loh" and you have "noodles" on your ears

[41 REGION]

Quote: Urs

Where did the information come from "Our troops left the Liman. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are in the city center."
From Aristovich Then I congratulate you, you are a "loh" and you have "noodles" on your ears

Already Russian spring wrote

[Urs]

Well, if "Russian spring has already written" then yes, this is "the source is really close to reliability" the version about the "loha" is valid

[Urs]

I believe this
https://z.mil.ru/spec_mil_oper/brief/briefings/more.htm?id=12440098%40egNews.
Departed means so it is necessary, no matter how it was insulting , but in any case, these fighters completed their task with their heroic actions

[41 REGION]

According to this summary, everything is fine with us, continuous regroupings
And which one of us is a sucker?

[Urs]

And here there is nothing to choose, a normal person is trying to thoughtfully trust the news from an off source, in our case MORF.
Well, the "sucker" trusts those sources that "sing" beautifully and the song that caresses the ear. Most often these are sources from the category of "file dumps" and "fake news" designed specifically for suckers with the absence of the category "critical thinking".
Well, now choose who you are and with whom you are

[41 REGION]

Quote: Urs

Well, now choose who you are and with whom you are

Obviously not with you ......
.

"fake news" designed specifically for suckers with the absence of the category "critical thinking"

Critical thinking is just absent for those who cannot use different news sources
Well, who knows the information worse and how do you put it "LOX" we figured it out yesterday

[Sergei V]

In order to avoid encirclement, our troops retreated in an organized manner from Krasny Liman to pre-prepared reserve positions, reinforced by the approaching reinforcements.
Thanks to yesterday's counterattack, the wounded were evacuated from the city yesterday.
t.me/RVvoenkor/27729

[Arkady007]

For five years now, I have had suspicions that Putin is not friends with the Internet, but only through Peskov and a hedgehog with him.
I understand that he does not have much time to sit at the computer, but at least reviews of the headlines of the "left" press can be viewed, for objectivity.

[neworange88]

Quote: dnestr74

I don’t understand a damn thing ... God grant our guys good luck and come back alive.
Does Putin have Internet access?

This is all strange. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are removing units from all directions for an offensive, and we have a numerical lack of forces there and there seems to be no one to strengthen them especially. But at the same time, there are exercises in the Far East, and there is practically no one to fight for Krasny Lyman. there, then the fighters of the LPR, but where is the Army?

Thirdly, having achieved initial success in the Kharkiv direction, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine began the process of transferring reserves there from the Kherson direction, where our Ministry of Defense immediately noted the cessation of the enemy’s offensive activity. And no wonder. The issue is that Kyiv, in the seventh month of the special operation to demilitarize it, still has the ability to maneuver reserves, quickly transferring them from the Southern Front to the Eastern Front via the Ukrainian railway. Damn it, when will it be destroyed already?! The foregoing allows us to draw a disappointing conclusion that the tactical defeat in the Kharkiv direction was a natural result of the strategy chosen by the Kremlin for operations in Ukraine with small forces. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and poorly trained "policemen" from the LDNR are simply not enough for such a long front line. Having given the enemy a strategic initiative, we are now forced to go on the defensive, and he got the opportunity to record another image victory at his own expense. Without a sharp increase in the number of Russian troops about the surrender of Kyiv by December, as some of our “couch experts-analysts” naively dream, it’s not worth even thinking, it would be possible to keep the liberated here. Vostok-2022, which involved 50 thousand military personnel, thousands of units of various armored vehicles and many aircraft, as well as warships.

https://topcor.ru/27949-pochemu-sojuznye-sily-nachali-terpet-obidnye-lokalnye-porazhenija-na-ukraine.html

[Sniper]

Resurrect the spirit of marshals Zhukov Rokossovsky, and others. Otherwise, the current generals are incapable of anything. They train the current recruits .. according to the methods of the First World War.

[Victor Leningradets]

This is our everything!
Russia - which we lost (together with the deserted Commander-in-Chief Colonel N.A. Romanov).

[opuonmed]

nudk rears are alive in ukrrr and the infrastructure works! these stupid people who think that it is possible to win this war game without destroying the rear (this is my personal opinion)

[Rt-xnumx]

He does not read Military Review. The Minister of Defense himself reports to him.

[flicker]

I don't fucking understand..

And here you don’t need to understand, but just be patient.
Krasny Liman is now the hottest spot on the front. But still a point, and there are a lot of such points.
Krasny Liman has already fulfilled its task with its stamina - the Armed Forces of Ukraine were forced to pull forces to it from the south, where their main battle was planned - so we may move away from there, and perhaps (if the situation allows) we will hold it.

[Sergei V]

Apparently, the General Staff does not think so, since for almost 3 weeks they did not bother to do anything

[Vlad 63]

What are you praying for him? Whether he has access or not, what difference does it make. This kinglet turned out to be worse than a clown, Zelensky's drug addict. That's the whole story. Oh, poor Putin does not know about the state of affairs at the front. Yes, he FSUs ... as it has always been on the people of Russia. I repeat once again, the army and its people will be defeated in this war, humiliated and trampled upon while these misunderstandings sit in the Kremlin. You can minus, plant and shoot me. They kill us there. And at the top they condone it.

[chetvertak]

If he was, he didn’t understand much! He has been in a glass jar for a long time. But there is such secrecy in the Kremlin that the Internet never dreamed of. Even Trump, becoming president, started a page on Twitter.

[Govorun]

D.A. Medvedev is responsible for the Internet in the Kremlin ...

[Vladimirsky]

And what is there to understand - they are draining the Kharkiv region, because they didn’t hold a referendum there, Luhansk and Donetsk will be defended. After all, Khersonskaya was not merged, there is a strong defense.

[Maz]

while the photos taken from the ukrovermacht are publishing about the capture of the city of the district type, then the real president of ukraine, not comrade Biden, aka Bidon, thinks it’s time to make a big nix, capitulate and reconcile, otherwise there will be a big big and fluffy Fox-Scribe and Krainereyhu and her Nazis. And not for grandfather, but if someone ascribes speeches, so it’s not in vain, it’s not in vain. And Victory will be ours, not these subhumans

[GOR_XVII]

I would like to share my thoughts on the state of our country and the army as well. Don't throw slippers.
Putin has been building a vertical of power for many years. Built a pyramid. And he built it. Fully controlled parliament, federation council, government and governors. controlled media. There is absolutely no opposition. All parties merged into one spineless mass. The final. Everyone who is below the top point opens his mouth to listen to what the president has to say. One has only to say something to Putin, so immediately the car started working, spinning. If he doesn’t say, then everything is fine and everyone just makes the appearance of vigorous activity without any results. Everything would be fine, as it has always been in our country, BUT. Putin, having built a pyramid, somehow slowly began to leave the government of the country and with all his might took up the reorganization of the whole world, and his hands do not reach Russia. The country remained uncontrolled with complete lack of initiative from lower-lying authorities. Note that all the last big, theatrical performances of the President are 99% devoted to foreign policy, and the situation in the country, the army, and the war is casual. This is not interesting to him. And therefore, all things in the country, and in the army and in the war, go on as they go. And therefore, blaming some generals for a failure in the war, blaming failures in industry on some ministers is absolutely incorrect. Something like this.
PS. I remember very well what Putin was like in the early 2000s. Angry, hungry, proactive. Uncombed and in a rumpled windbreaker. He succeeded. And now. Sleek, with make-up, manicure. Theatrical performances with extras and competent PR by expensive companies. Putin of the 2000s and Putin now, these are 2 completely different people and leaders. And that's bad.

[dmi.pris1]

Well, the Nazis looked at Moscow through binoculars. And?

[Foundling]

They considered it then, and now they consider it again!

[dmi.pris1]

These are the descendants of those. Unfinished. But the result will be the same

[NAF-NAF]

It will definitely. Only it would be desirable not with the same costs. And for this it was necessary to carry out purges, remove the owners of foreign real estate and accounts in Western banks ...

[poquello]

Quote: Foundling

They considered it then, and now they consider it again!

then alarmists were shot, now you are writing here

[Cananecat]

Quote: dmi.pris

Well, the Nazis looked at Moscow through binoculars. And?

AND? Does history teach us nothing? Should I go back to Moscow? Or maybe right away to the Urals ... well, to take a good run ...

[Quote Lavrov]

It is clear that on the outskirts, it is clear that they raised it and maybe they immediately ran away.
I’ll even say more, don’t care about Krasny Liman as a city - in a war, probably, there are no victories without the experience of defeats. But for those guys whom we have been unable to support with all the strength of the Moscow Region for more than a week - do not care. Don't care that yesterday the Supreme Commander didn't say a word about them, don't care that they are afraid to correct their own mistakes, including political, personnel, etc. Do not care that the road opens almost to Lugansk.
Don't give a damn about the fact that we are protecting Ukraine's military-political elite, infrastructure, and logistics. It doesn’t matter that Abramovich, who makes billions in Russia, licks the Azov people who are being taken out, and we don’t even really meet our released guys ...
It doesn’t matter how Peskov’s son sends away with the question of mobilization, and the authorities make enemies of the people from those who have been told for 30 years that the state does not owe them anything. Do not care that they start their mistakes trying to correct probing the possibility of using nuclear weapons.
Don't care how we fight this war!!!

[Leshak]

It is a pity that it is not allowed, otherwise I would put two pluses for your post! Totally agree!

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Quote Lavrov

Don't care

nothing to even add.

[Enoch]

But for those guys whom we cannot support with all the strength of the Moscow Region for more than a week - do not care.

And for the entire vertical of power, don’t care deeply! All traitors-jackals, the Lord will determine in fiery hell, where eternal weeping and gnashing of teeth. Amen.

[27091965]

There is a lot of information and it is different, it is difficult to make out which is true and which is not.

[scientist]

On the one hand, such a concentration of Bandera on a small sector of the front is beneficial to Russian troops. Aviation needs to burn less kerosene in search of dugouts and shelters for the Nazis. But the fact that our reserves have been coming up for so long is somehow alarming. It is clear that it is not Kyiv to take by landing, but still.

[Vladimir M]

How can the second army of the world allow such a large concentration of Bandera on a small sector of the front?

[chingachguc]

Every day won
like a breath of air. Soon everything will change. Estuary - lump

[Drotro]

Just imagine how many people, waking up in the morning, first of all open the tape to find out how the defenders of Krasny Liman are doing. We provide positive karma. Only if it will help to complete combat missions.

There must be some long-term plan in everything. That's interesting - in Krasny Liman, events unfold in accordance with the general global plan, or somehow on their own, on their own.

[Chem1st]

Hey, come on! The "Global Plan" is a fake, that's already clear. Our Ministry of Defense once again screwed up. As much as it hurts to admit it.

[Turtle]

messed up ... If the camouflage was tucked into berets, they could splash their collar.

[Mar.Tirah]

Hmm, yes ......! Is there something wrong with the strategy of conducting this operation in our military department?

[Nyrobsky]

Photoshop has not been canceled, as they say - "Don't say gop until you jump over." Yesterday A. Sladkov, with a film crew, drove in and out of Liman, saying that despite the fact that dill is crushing, regardless of losses, the road to Liman is not cut, the garrison is holding on, supplies and reserves are coming.

[Foundling]

Already wrote! Someone at the top is interested in the failure of the company in order to demolish the current one. There is sabotage. Let the dill prepare and equip 6 thousand in 700 months. And collect 300 thousand by yourself and in a couple of weeks leave it for patching holes. this will exacerbate the loss. 300 thousand could change the situation in March. Not now
now for a million dill you need to collect a superior strike force. And in the General Staff this cannot but be understood in the General Staff. The game of thrones.

[guest]

Quote: Foundling

Already wrote! Someone at the top is interested in the failure of the company in order to demolish the current one.

There was nothing new in 1917 already. Does this person have such a short historical memory? After all, as then, for the traitors, it will still end badly.

[Quote Lavrov]

Are you kidding, perhaps? Again the theory - "but the king doesn't know"?
And who, supposedly, who wanted to throw him off, placed them in their positions? He handed over the Heroes for loyalty (presumably), who, with all the power in the country, even prevents him now from "demolishing" them for their mistakes? Who can prevent the SUPREME COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF from setting the direction for the plans for conducting the NWO? Who prevents to control how his relatives, friends, their children participate in mobilization?
Well, right, baby talk!

[Foundling]

Does anyone write that "the king has nothing to do with"? In any case, he made a decision that, to put it mildly, surprised military experts. Well, the company itself revealed such a depth of fraud, not only in the military department, but also in others, that the hair on end. And he rubbed the first staff recruited.

[Turtle]

I’m embarrassed to ask, why is the “acting” so busy that he cannot understand that some kind of rat is leaking everything? There are only a couple of months left before a possible strategic tennis, you need to be more mobile.

[Herman 4223]

Do you think that corrupt officers and generals did not appear in the 90s? Do you think they disappeared? Of course there is sabotage that is obvious. But this is even good, because many of these will light up in the war, real heroes will break ahead on success, the army will become cleaner and stronger in the end.

[vitvit123]

It was necessary to mobilize earlier and call on those who were in the RF (second). In July, it’s normal to recruit them for at least a month or two, give them artillery with a three-fold reserve, armor with a three-fold reserve, it’s natural to find UAV operators and slowly bring them into battle while holding the rear by other parts of the reservists who had less experience ..
Damn, none of my familiar paratroopers, scouts, they took anyone! The guys, although they are not suitable for age, are all ready, everyone gathered and waited, but apparently they are not needed ...

[Procopius Nesterov]

They can sign up as volunteers if they want.

[Quote Lavrov]

Well, let's, in general, arrange anarchy and we will do what anyone wants. Why then is MO needed? Why do we pay taxes on officials, deputies, if again we have to think for ourselves - how and what to do. But why the hell is it also impossible then - but we don’t want to raise the retirement age and we ourselves decide not to do this. Do we have a state with a system of control, protection, or is it again every man for himself?

[Procopius Nesterov]

Why is your comment here? Volunteers go along the line of the Ministry of Defense, sign a contract. Ordinary contractors become.

[Quote Lavrov]

The simplest example - how can an officer go "volunteer" through the draft board?
Aby where?
Isn't the state supposed to think about how to use it as efficiently as possible?
Will the state pay off his mortgage or help his family? He is not some kind of homeless person and can have a good job, has obligations to his family, relatives.
Why do we have this eternal - "these are your problems, not the concern of the state," is still taken for granted?

[Procopius Nesterov]

You have something with the logic of the problem. Take a break. Volunteer from the word voluntarily.

[Quote Lavrov]

Apparently, you just have problems with the materiel. "Contractor" and "volunteer" are awesome different things. But you don’t even understand the difference, you try to talk about it, dumping everything in a heap

[Procopius Nesterov]

The volunteer signs a regular contract. So you have problems.

[Quote Lavrov]

Let me ask the simplest question - the BARS, now defending Ko. Liman, which part, formation, association of the Moscow Region are included in?
Do they have contracts with the MoD?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

The volunteer signs a regular contract. So you have problems.

According to second-hand information, our volunteers are paid 30.

[vitvit123]

Such a comment shows that you do not understand much! I will not explain anything to you, because I don’t see the point, who can reason or analyze (it’s hard to find the right words so as not to upset) they will understand me ..
If only things were that easy for many...

[Quote Lavrov]

Of course you can't. Because there is only pathos, and when you ask you real questions, all you can do is "proudly retire into the sunset."
An excellent example of the position you advertise - "figure it out yourself"

[vitvit123]

"my dear" with delirium more carefully! And then I looked very rich ..

[Quote Lavrov]

And what is "wealth"?
And why on earth do you think that we have switched to "you"?

[Urs]

I tried not to take it, the old one tells me 59, not a volunteer, not under a contract.
Everything rests on "junior officers up to 55 years old" and "reserve officers cannot be called up or appointed to the positions of non-commissioned officers." He asked for a tank platoon, a repair platoon , nifiga "we will announce vacancies"
Here is the alignment

[Sergei V]

Judging by the complete silence, the city is abandoned

[Nastia makarova]

it doesn't matter, the main thing is to move away without loss

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

now for a million dill you need to collect a superior strike force. And in the General Staff this cannot but be understood in the General Staff. The game of thrones.

How is this even possible if the city is actually surrounded?

[Nastia makarova]

surrounded by fire, on the way there is a chance to break through

[Rt-xnumx]

surrounded by fire, on the way there is a chance to break through

Chances to break into the Liman, how to break into the 2nd Shock Army of Vlasov near Leningrad in 1942. Similar. 50 to 50.

[Nastia makarova]

have already left, which means they broke through, but unfortunately not all, there are several prisoners

[Rt-xnumx]

there are several prisoners

Where does such data come from? If it's not a military secret?

[Nastia makarova]

yes, already according to all the news that ours left the estuary, there is even a VO

[Rt-xnumx]

there are several prisoners

Where are the prisoners? Link please?

[Foundling]

Admit mistakes. Understand that the time to resolve the issue of partial mobilization has been lost. And 300 thousand will no longer affect the course of the company. You need a lot more. That's just how to arm everyone. Believe me, I don't like what I write. In March, these 300 thousand would be better, but it would be better to collect 500 thousand by the beginning of the operation. That's what all the experts kept saying. But someone felt like a great commander. Although there was no reason

[Procopius Nesterov]

What all experts wrote? All experts wrote just the opposite, that mobilization is not needed. Only Strelkov wrote about the need for mobilization, for which these same experts rushed at him.
I looked at my comments on the need for mobilization and wrote on April 2.

[Foundling]

All import experts wrote that 200 at the border is not enough for the NWO and therefore there will be no NWO. Scroll through

[Procopius Nesterov]

Link please? You must prove your assertion, not me for you.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

The easiest

Minister of Defense of Ukraine Reznikov: Russia did not create a strike force for the invasion

Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov told reporters in the Verkhovna Rada that there is no threat of a full-scale invasion of Russian troops into the country yet, RIA Novosti reports.

https://dzen.ru/news/story/Ministr_oborony_Ukrainy_Reznikov_Rossiya_ne_sozdala_udarnuyu_gruppirovku_dlyavtorzheniya--76aa6ca54769f6dd66ef397ed6ab3dd7?lang=ru&fan=1&stid=htse3vqvGuiUU9kcMU_a&persistent_id=60&story=6de23f39-d69e-571f-8600-2e4b296ae27f&issue_tld=ru

[Foundling]

Then the insider left and the embassies fled. Then, having understood the numbers and realizing that the kina would not be, everyone returned.

[Nastia makarova]

and who said that after these 300 there will be no more mobilization? these would be digested, trained, dressed

[MMX]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

and who said that after these 300 there will be no more mobilization? these would be digested, trained, dressed

Will be. Only here in itself mobilization does not give anything. It is necessary to provide and train the mobilized (see Armed Forces of Ukraine). And only after 4-5 months there will be a sense (see the Armed Forces of Ukraine).
Therefore, if they do not mobilize now, they are wasting time.

[Nastia makarova]

Now they can no longer mobilize, only when these go to the front

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

it doesn't matter, the main thing is to move away without loss

It is difficult to fully agree with such a formulation of the question.
According to this logic, you can retreat to the Pacific Ocean.
This is important, retreat demotivates people.
Although of course Kutuzov with such tactics ultimately won.
Do you think you can leave Moscow too?

[Rt-xnumx]

Do you think you can leave Moscow too?

And what! And let's leave! Vladivostok is the capital of the USSR!
The main thing is the indestructible friendship of the Soviet peoples.
Ukrainians and Russians are brothers forever. Internationalism however.
Thus spoke Zarathushtra. (and Lenin!)

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Rt-12

And what! And let's leave! Vladivostok is the capital of the USSR!

This is for sarcasm.
Don't bend it.
Let's have some patience.
By the way, the guys from Ukraine are its co-founders.
Do not belittle their merit.
But we will not dishonor the Motherland either.
So for now.

[Rt-xnumx]

This is for sarcasm.

So am I, like for sarcasm.
Or maybe I'm wrong? Maybe we will move the capital to Petropavovsk-Kamchatsky?

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Rt-12

So am I, like for sarcasm.

you Nastya, ask this question ..
She's up there.
I don `t need it.

[Rt-xnumx]

you Nastya, ask this question ..

I would ask the applicant this question. Yes, I'm afraid they'll get banned.

[Urs]

On the contrary, if they took it, then the whole YouTube was buzzing from "real" videos about the capture.

[Prjanik]

Liman seems to me an ideal trap for banderlogs. Zelya vomits and thrashes, he now has everything in the information and media direction at Krasny Lyman. Dill remove units and reserves from the fortified areas from all directions, transfer through the Seversky Donets under the blows of our artillery and aircraft and the rod to the Liman, regardless of any losses. If you really try, then there you can dispose of the floor of the Ukrotroist

[Kronos]

Yeah, there was already such a trap in Izyum.

[Prjanik]

The trap is that they have to suffer huge losses in the offensive for the media effect. And this will backfire on them, the temporary territory is nothing, the army is everything, this has been known to everyone since 1812

[Kronos]

And how do you know what losses they really bear? And why is it for the media effect? The capture of Liman opens the road deep into the LPR.

[Prjanik]

Information about heavy losses both from the dill themselves and from us, they say about the forests literally littered with banderlog carcasses. And the very fact that they are forced to send more and more reserves, even removing garrisons from the defense of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Seversk and Bakhmut, says everything. The city itself had long been bypassed from the north and rested where they could, and Liman with its small garrison remained like a splinter in one place. Ukrogenerals and Zelya promised to take him before Putin's speech, and Zelya is now very dissatisfied and throws everything there

[Nickelium]

Do you think they are immortal? Go deep into the LPR - again go to the fortified areas. Is this such a brilliant plan? Why not attack open sections of the borders of the Bryansk and Kursk regions? I remember our critics that they are fighting against fortified areas. Ukrainians do the same. Why is no one attacking through open areas?

[Victor Leningradets]

You croak, they will still go to the rear through Valuyki and Rossosh, but hiding behind our civilians (arm the people, create militias for no reason!). Moreover, NATO aircraft will fall from the sky. Do not hurt me to believe that our air defense is impenetrable. With a mass suppression organized by an enemy technically not inferior to us, it is not yet a fact that the publicized air defense will show itself better than the rest of the troops. And access to the rear of the LPR is a disaster for the entire Southwestern Front.
They learned to fight, and we all calve.

[Nickelium]

Yes, and here croaking? this is the logical decision of the enemy commanders. It’s more logical to attack where there is less resistance, isn’t it? What is the point of killing your army on fortified areas, and Donbass is one continuous fortified area. Suppose there are fools in our generals (and they are definitely fools), but in the end the cup will overflow, the fools will be kicked out, the personnel army will be worn out. What's next? And what if fresh forces strike from the Kursk direction to Sumy? And there such a prospect opens up. You can cut off the supply of the Kharkov group, go to Kremenchug or Krivoy Rog from the North. In general, Zeli's intention is incomprehensible. If the infliction of Pu's image losses, then they have already been inflicted so much that they cannot be put in the basket.

[Cartalon]

Judging by the course of hostilities, our army does not know how to attack from the word at all, there are simply no tactics for attacking an enemy equipped with weapons comparable to ours.

[MMX]

Quote: Cartalon

Judging by the course of hostilities, our army does not know how to attack from the word at all, there are simply no tactics for attacking an enemy equipped with weapons comparable to ours.

Our army does not know how to fight in a numerical minority. Well, yes, the rears are just really bad.

[Nickelium]

Our army knows how, but the generals do not. If Mozgovoy, Givi, Motorola were at the head of the army, things would have gone in a completely different way. Today we learned the name of the main character - Lapin. Judging by his face, he did not get out of a hangover for a week. And this rat is responsible for the most important sector of the front! And you sin against the army. What can an army do with such hogs in the beginning?

[Victor Leningradets]

Well, they realized, otherwise they threw minuses at me.
I wrote that they would go further using holes in the defense, incl. on the territory of Russia until 30.09.2022/XNUMX/XNUMX?
And about Belarus, which they have on a platter in front of Lithuania, Poland and Ukraine?
Now they will carry out mobilization in Poland and the Baltic States and home mobilization in Ukraine - and they will go. And we have nothing to answer!
The worst thing is if aviation is used on a large scale. This will generally abolish the command and control of our troops in the field and artillery support for combat operations. Realizing that our red lines are not even pink, they are preparing for this.

[Nickelium]

Well, let's see. If they don’t go, then all these maneuvers with the storming of fortified areas are incomprehensible to me.
Well, I wouldn't go so far as to. Who will try the red lines on themselves? Poles, Balts? Well, let's say Hiroshima starts there. What's next? Will the rest of the Europeans run to save them joyfully? I understand the scale of your pessimism, but still I think there is a line.
The most terrible thing is that this is repeated from century to century under any rulers. 41, Stalin - Vyazemsky cauldron, Kyiv cauldron, Minsk cauldron, Kharkov, Kerch, Rostov, they reached Vladikavkaz.
I would generally advise the Balts not to get into this whoredom. In this meat grinder, small ones will be ground and not noticed.
Well, we have patience and strength. it will be too long and bloody epic. But we will win. Such is our destiny. And the ungrateful world will not count our losses. What is not the first time. Yes, and after the victory, after decades, we ourselves will forget what kind of blood we got this victory.
You did not believe in us, you counted the hands,
We fought for ourselves and for the dignity of the flag,
You counted the size of premium envelopes,
We burned our blood, our nerves on the field ..

You did not believe in us, admired others,
We endured with clenched teeth and just chopped,
You figured out the odds on the old system,
Having missed only one thing - we got up from our knees ...
We got up off our knees..

You made predictions and waited for failures
You have not seen blood and tears in the locker room,
Where was the team born? - in the fire of defeat,
You didn't know one thing - we rose from our knees

We've risen from our knees
We've risen from our knees
We got up off our knees..

You tried to squeeze us into the usual schemes,
We broke the laws of the football universe,
We stepped into the legend, casting aside doubts,
We are here forever!

We've risen from our knees
The song is about football in general, but I think it's more universal.

[Victor Leningradets]

You are talking about the spirit, the will to win - and rightly so.
Everyone admired what our professional contractors are famously tearing up contracts and winding up at the first nix.
The indigenous people are stronger, they understand that we are talking about the existence of Russia, about relatives and friends, and they will fight.
The main trouble WOULD BE WHAT,
Already today two armies were to be created - mobilization combat and mobilization labor. Life in the country should be put on a war footing, production of modern or at least not very outdated weapons should be launched. Adjusted the schedule of military transportation. Deployed training centers.
There is no such thing. They just started mobilization measures and already - solid jambs, they didn’t think about armor for the necessary industries and services, nor did they think about closing borders.
In general, it's time to create a people's militia.
Then we stand.

[Nickelium]

All this will be. But you understand that our powers that be are brakes? Until we get to all this, a lot of blood will be shed. In principle, Groundhog Day is our curse from century to century. Our command and authorities are always unprepared for an enemy armed to the teeth and motivated.. Is it a curse or our destiny to extinguish the eternal fire with butterfly wings. And it would be nice if these fires raged in Australia and Canada. They have been with us for centuries. Names change, but the same remains.

[Sergei V]

A copy of the words of the times of raisins and balakley, who is next with us?

[Nickelium]

How long did they hold Izyum and Balakleya?

[Rt-xnumx]

Liman seems to me an ideal trap for banderlogs.

And along with the Russian army.

[Kronos]

Here is what Kassad writes
At 13 o'clock.

1. The command in the Krasnoliman direction is still unable to stop the current operational crisis (the reasons for this are not completely clear) and events continue to develop according to an unfavorable scenario.
2. Krasny Liman, apparently, will be completely lost in the next 1-3 days, and the ability of the troops and command to ensure the stabilization of the front in the Kremennaya area is already on the agenda.
3. The continuation of the retreat now under Krasny Liman is obviously a consequence of the previous defeat near Balakleya.

[Nastia makarova]

it's one thing to leave the estuary and move away, it's another thing to run like there

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

it's one thing to leave the estuary and move away, it's another thing to run like there

And there is also an option when they don’t have time to run, then there will be a cauldron and crowds of prisoners. The decision to hold or retreat is always a matter of a fine line.

[Nastia makarova]

you can open the boiler, and in general anything can happen in a war, plans never come true

[Nickelium]

What crowds of prisoners? Brest fortress will be. It is obvious that it is better not to be captured by sadists.

[Drotro]

The probability of leaving Krasny Liman is 80%, if almost everyone is already preparing public opinion for this (military correspondents, field commanders). And it is interesting that the Russian leadership has plans for further actions. Or now it will continue like this. Heroic defense, and then another retreat. And further downward. So it is possible to even out the front line far away.
The meaning of referendums, if the territory can not be kept. Nothing is clear. Then they would write on the banners "Russia is not here forever."
It is clear that most people have long trusted no one and nothing. But hanging banners, which Ukrainian nationalists then take down and trample into the dirt, is a super action. What feelings do local residents have for Russia, who, as during the Civil War, first observed the arrival of the Red Army, and then the change of power.

[AlexTires]

Liman will most likely be abandoned in the near future .... Apparently, the point of holding it is already disappearing ... Well, he entered himself in the book of military glory of Russia ...

[hangar200]

I have no words. Lots of interjections....What's going on?....Regrouping? Well, thank God.....

[Chem1st]

Words, except for obscene words - to the RF Ministry of Defense. No, really - maybe it's time to shoot someone so that the rest move? The lessons of Balakleya and Izyum remained, after all, unlearned.

[Sergey28]

Inspired. "Storm Gates" film (c) 2006

[Al manah]

There was a plan for the operation, but here it’s just the operation “Mediocrity”.

[Adagka]

And where is the minister-foreman with his Gerasims and network-centric wars? Apparently he manages a deblocking strike on Liman in real time from a comfortable leather chair in a freshly built General Staff? It turns out so-so so far ... In order to wage a network-centric war, you can start small - to establish a connection not for three-ruble balalaikas with aliexpress. You can still start launching military satellites into space, not painted nipples. In order not to be blind kittens in the war. Yes, a lot is possible.

[mmmsi]

Fights are going on, but the stele is like new. Freshly painted and no scratches. Conclusion. Either there are no fights, or the photo is not a photo at all.

[Egoza]

Liman defensive operation - Strelkov's analysis
https://rusvesna.su/news/1664553169
Interesting to read and appreciate

[Vladimir M]

How can the army of a country with 20 million people (there is simply no more there for a long time) defeat an army with 140 million people? What is wrong in the "Danish kingdom"?

[Kronos]

Well, firstly, there are at least 30 million with something there, secondly, they mobilized and assembled an army larger than that of Russia, and finally they are better equipped, motivated and they have more experience.

[Vladimir M]

First, there are no 30 million there for a long time; secondly, who admitted that they were able to mobilize and assemble, but we were not; thirdly, who admitted that they were better equipped and motivated? Each of these problems has a first and last name.

[Eva Star]

The Ukrainian army would not last a day. The army of Ukraine is fully supported by Western countries, everything from foreign cartridges.

[Vladimir M]

So only Western countries are to blame, and our leadership is white and fluffy?

[Alex Nevs]

Stubbornness is not treated, it is operated on. They were told that the pug will swallow the elephant, and they believe. They are told, they win, they believe. They are not informed that the Four Regions are gone, but they still win.

[mmmsi]

By the way. What is the correct name of the settlement, Liman or Krasny Liman? If Krasny Liman, then where did the word Red disappear from the stele?

[donavi49]

Decommunization. Ukraine calls it Lyman and has replaced the stele, like in hundreds of other settlements. Until 2016 Red Estuary.

[Synoid]

Why do you spoil the joy of these jackals (banderlogs, liberals, rear-wheel drive, peacekeepers and other varieties of shit). Clever questions do not interest them, not for that they are whining here. A defensive line has been formed in Krasny Liman, which cannot be taken with a swoop + full control of the surroundings by artillery and aircraft. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are simply mowed down in hundreds, all the reserves prepared for months in small Britain and canine Poland. These losses are no longer recoverable for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, both in equipment and in trained soldiers.

[huntsman650]

If Liman is defended, I will eat my cap for joy!
Again I remembered the golden phrase of the supreme: "Let's see how this counteroffensive ends."

[Foundling]

I'm afraid your cap is not in danger

[Viktor29]

Shariy, referring to our military correspondents, writes that they are already in the center of Liman.

[Adagka]

Well, it turns out now we are renting xxlu already the territory of Russia. Mediocrity with stripes did not succeed in driving out on the heroism of a soldier. Now hhol can safely shove himself to Lugansk. But not a single bastard with stripes has yet been shot.

[RaccoonSnake]

The APU is advancing non-stop. The Russian Federation is not able to oppose anything. Let's continue to laugh at the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as is customary among "cheers-patriots."

[Yapet100]

Soon we will hear that everything is going according to plan and on schedule.

[Negro]

We already hear. If the heroes of Liman had not repeated the Azovstal crossed out Brest Fortress, then the Armed Forces of Ukraine would have created a grandiose cauldron for the entire southern flank with a blow from Zaporozhye to Melitopol and then to Armyansk. Somehow they say it.

And the CBO is going according to plan ahead of schedule, no doubt.

[Liam]

Quote: Negro

We already hear.

Moreover, the main frontman of this scenario-die-hard Girkin. Hike, his tower won the bulldogs in the Kremlin fuss and Girkin became the commander of something)

[Negro]

)))
I hear this from Strelkov and Illarionov at the same time. From Orekhovo to Armyansk to go more than 200 km, the guys believed in the Armed Forces of Ukraine so strong.

[Liam]

Both are the same level of "analytics")
Girkin has been rapidly changing shoes in the air for the last few days and becoming a mainstream loyalist ... which means they finally got a piece of bread. All pipes are blown up, all bridges are burned, mobilization to the last patriot, the unification of lands on the knee, the general staff and the nepotist generals clinging to the laurels of the Akhmat regiment to the front privates, Girkin / Kadyrov / Prigozhin to the army commander ... Glorious times await mother Russia.

But Girkin is unlikely to be able to answer why the loss of Melitopol is worse than the loss of Luhansk, for example, from a political point of view)

[MMX]

Quote: Yapet100

Soon we will hear that everything is going according to plan and on schedule.

No, the main record is different: "We haven't started anything yet."

[t200404]

Where does one get information about losses from others?

[AlexTires]

Lyman abandoned. Ukrainians are already starting to clean up the city

[Terenin]

Quote: AlexTires

Lyman abandoned. Ukrainians are already starting to clean up the city

Yeah. And, at the same time, the commandant units of the LPR and the Bars detachments continue to serve inside the city.
Take your time, Zelensky, "a pale young man with a burning look" with his ORDER: "Krasny Liman was to be taken, or surrounded by the Armed Forces of Ukraine before President Putin's speech!"
But this morning is 01.10.22/XNUMX/XNUMX, and he is still ours

[Sergey Drozdov]

"And for this it was necessary to carry out purges, remove the owners of foreign real estate and accounts in Western banks ..."
Well, comrade, such a cleansing can only be carried out under socialism, and Vladimir Vladimirovich clearly said yesterday that there is no Soviet Union, the past cannot be returned, and Russia is not striving for this.
We are not striving to implement your proposals, comrade ...

[donavi49]

The first stage of the offensive is already being repeated, namely the mountains of military equipment . Including T-90, T-80BVM, T-80UE and T-72B3, Berezhok, Msta-S, shells, missiles for hurricanes.

It is estimated that there are already about 50 units of externally intact equipment.

[DenVB]

Quote: donavi49

The first stage of the offensive is already being repeated, namely the mountains of military equipment

Nothing, soon waves of mobs will go into battle. One plus - they will have nothing to throw, except for old AKMs.

[cold wind]

The Armed Forces of Ukraine are conducting a very competent offensive. Small forces, in weak sections of the front, surrounding, and not attacking in the forehead. This leads to a cessation of supply and demoralization of the troops. After that, it only remains to save people on light vehicles, leaving heavy weapons, warehouses and armored vehicles. And it looks like there was no command to blow everything up again.

[Nastia makarova]

is this photo from Kharkov region? after leaving Izyum?

[donavi49]

It's fresh. The T-90 in the second photo is where in the Drobyshevo-Shandrigolovo area. There was a video where two T-90s landed and were abandoned.

Here is this particular T-90 during the fighting a week ago:

And here he is in the photo posted yesterday:

Also a lot of material from forests. It's all about a week ago fights.

There are a lot of heavy armored vehicles (tanks, Mstas, acacias), few armored vehicles and few wheeled ones and they are mostly damaged in one way or another.

[Nastia makarova]

did you leave it when you left? is it near Liman?

[donavi49]

This is northwest of Liman, where the fighting took place a week ago.

[Nastia makarova]

it’s very bad that they leave technology like that, but there is already a law about this, who left prison for him

[Terenin]

Quote: donavi49

It is estimated that there are already about 50 units of externally intact equipment.

This is where you, with your (I give a tooth, I swear by my mother ...) assessment, hid 49 more photos?

[donavi49]

Well, I need to post each unit here?

If anything, in the post you are referring to 7 + 1 (the gun is visible, but the type is not visible) - tanks, BMP2M, 2 Msta = 10 vehicles or 1/5 of what I indicated .

Here is another T-90 (judging by the signs, this is the 27th Omsbr).

Here somewhere in the north - T-72B3 (probably taken at the Balakley-Izyum stage) drags two T-72B3s at once.

BMP-3 is already packed behind the 92nd brigade.

Acacia with anti-javelin farm.

T-72B3M with a trawl.

Taking into account the post just above, here are 18 unique pieces of equipment for you.

[Terenin]

Quote: donavi49

Well, I need to post each unit here?

If anything, in the post you are referring to 7 + 1 (the gun is visible, but the type is not visible) - tanks, BMP2M, 2 Msta = 10 vehicles or 1/5 of what I indicated .

Here is another T-90 (judging by the signs, this is the 27th Omsbr).

Here somewhere in the north - T-72B3 (probably taken at the Balakley-Izyum stage) drags two T-72B3s at once.

BMP-3 is already packed behind the 92nd brigade.

Acacia with anti-javelin farm.

T-72B3M with a trawl.

Taking into account the post just above, here are 18 unique pieces of equipment for you.

You can take another photo (where there are "funeral services") with a stretch of thumbs up to the abandoned equipment (its condition is not clear).
And, the rest of the photos will not work.
Give us another 48 units if you are such a scrupulous appraiser.
Otherwise, even an angry minus to me will not help you from embarrassment.

[Alexey Sommer]

Do you like these photos?
It looks like yes. Once you post it here.
These are our "marshals"
admins?)

[donavi49]

You can ignore them, but in fact, the army will fight on this "lend-lease" now and in the near future. In terms of heavy armored vehicles, Russia outperformed Poland in Lend-Lease.

Actually, in winter, the restored brigades will go to the T-72B3 / T-80U / BVM / BV. And the expected drawdown in technology will not happen, as well as the collapse of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. This is an obvious fact. It can be ignored, you can go into denial towards Konashenokov and destroy everything 4 times. But it is more correct to prepare for a protracted and long war. Austin and Millie for example charged the plan for 5 years.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: donavi49

Austin and Millie for example charged the plan for 5 years.

And how did you want against a country of 40 million, which is supported by about a billion people?
Easy walk?

[donavi49]

Well, if you read the articles and comments of February-March and even April-May-June, then yes.

Apparently (the same mobilization only when it became obvious and shown with proofs that there was a severe human hunger in the army and it was even difficult to defend themselves) at the top, they also expected an easy walk Crimea 2.0 / Syria 0.5, where a couple of battalions of Bandera-Nazis would have to control the maximum.

[MMX]

There were rumors that A. Babchenko had already uncovered his Abrams ...

[Clear]

Quote: donavi49

You can ignore them, but in fact, the army will fight on this "lend-lease" now and in the near future. In terms of heavy armored vehicles, Russia outperformed Poland in Lend-Lease.

Is it really not clear that even if this is so, then only the enemy and the enemy can post such materials during the war.
Moreover, all the photos were collected in a heap and are being passed off as deliberately abandoned by our fighters.

[donavi49]

In fact, these photos are posted everywhere, from Oryx and Western resources, where they openly amuse themselves (there is generally a holiday, reference mobilization, a new direction in tactical medicine - a swab in the wound channel, and get tourniquets yourself, I don’t have them), and quite patriotic carts military review level.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: donavi49

In fact, these photos are posted everywhere, from Oryx and Western resources, where they openly make fun, and quite patriotic carts of the Military Review level.

Even so, I wouldn't post them here.
This is definitely not helping Russia's friends.

[MMX]

You can't please the Patriots.
It is better to shout in unison - Hurray!

[Eva Star]

Liman lost, it was a matter of time. Today, neo-Nazis will arrange a feast and kill loyal Russian citizens in Krasny Liman. Russia is doing an excellent job of helping to exterminate Russian speakers. First we enter the village, the locals help us, and then we leave, and everyone who helped is eliminated. Bendera's soldiers are shooting at columns of civilians, but we are silent. Bendera commit terrorist attacks, and we are silent. How long it will be going on? What is this deal? Why are there no strikes on electricity, gas, communications, infrastructure?

[RGB]

Recently, I have also been visited by thoughts that this is some kind of contract! Otherwise, such mediocrity of our General Staff cannot be explained.

[Alex Nevs]

After they are "killed" they will be well, very much "loved" and "respected". What would understand ukroNatovsky world.

[Terenin]

Quote from Eva Star

Liman lost, it was a matter of time.

Oh how . It looks like the shift at TsIPSO is over, but the workpiece must be applied.

Quote from Eva Star

Today, neo-Nazis will arrange a feast and kill loyal Russian citizens in Krasny Liman.

What have they been doing for eight years now?

Quote from Eva Star

Russia is doing an excellent job of helping to exterminate Russian speakers.

Did you understand what you wrote?

Quote from Eva Star

First we enter the village, the locals help us, and then we leave, and everyone who helped is eliminated.

It is time to think about why, despite the fact that the Bandera people are destroying the population, people still help us.

Quote from Eva Star

Bendera's soldiers are shooting at columns of civilians, but we are silent. Bendera commit terrorist attacks, and we are silent.

Are you provoking attacks on civilians in the territories occupied by Bandera and terrorist attacks? Worn out tutorial.

[Sergei V]

judging by the filming from the helicopter, the columns with civilians and the military left for several days, there is hope that they left leaving their home

[polynet]

Quote from Drotro

The probability of leaving Krasny Liman is 80%, if almost everyone is already preparing public opinion for this (military correspondents, field commanders). And it is interesting that the Russian leadership has plans for further actions. Or now it will continue like this. Heroic defense, and then another retreat. And further downward. So it is possible to even out the front line far away.
The meaning of referendums, if the territory can not be kept. Nothing is clear. Then they would write on the banners "Russia is not here forever."
It is clear that most people have long trusted no one and nothing. But hanging banners, which Ukrainian nationalists then take down and trample into the dirt, is a super action. What feelings do local residents have for Russia, who, as during the Civil War, first observed the arrival of the Red Army, and then the change of power.

And the point is to retreat, this is the territory of the Russian Federation, yesterday they just signed documents. Until everything is clear, we must wait. The fact that the outskirts lied even those, it is known to all.

[RaccoonSnake]

Already beginning to resemble the retreat of 1915.

[Adagka]

Quote: Raccoon

The APU is advancing non-stop. The Russian Federation is not able to oppose anything. Let's continue to laugh at the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as is customary among "cheers-patriots."

Yes, everything is going according to plan. The foreman, as usual, inspects the polygons, the chief of the general staff of the dissertation writes, the rest of the dudes with stripes master the tablets in the new center of the Moscow Region. As it turned out, one Zaluzhny is worth all this pstobratii ....

[DenVB]

Quote: Adagka

the chief of the general staff of the dissertation writes

Writes? He doesn't even read them.

[John Smith]

Quote: Olga

A brazen demonstration for the whole world - the crosses on the vehicles, no longer hidden by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, "embarrass" me (to put it mildly)

the cross is a symbol of Christianity, are you embarrassed by the crosses of the tsarist army?

[poquello]

Quote from John Smith

Quote: Olga

A brazen demonstration for the whole world - the crosses on the vehicles, no longer hidden by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, "embarrass" me (to put it mildly)

the cross is a symbol of Christianity, are you embarrassed by the crosses of the tsarist army?

this tank is very similar to the tank of the tsarist army?

[Heaven]

This is Photoshop. According to the MoD, Liman is unblocked, the enemy is thrown back.

[invisible_man]

They don't understand what "sarcasm" is.

[chingachguc]

We left in an organized manner. Hitting Stakes last night was a cover-up. The decision had already been made then. The right decision. If they had tightened it, they would have come out like hahly near Lisichansk. On foot, in small groups, abandoning all equipment. I fully support. Liman shackled all the activity of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for almost a month. Soon everything will change.

[RaccoonSnake]

"Organized" with so many abandoned equipment ?! With such "organization", soon there will be nothing to fight.

[chingachguc]

Bars came out in an organized manner and without losses

[Boris Sergeev]

Everyone in MO - on a medal! By the way, what did Shoigu say about the need to slow down the offensive?

[Al manah]

Has the talking head in stripes already read out the terrible losses of the Banderlochs and the decline in their moral and psychological level?

[hangar200]

Are there Russian cadres in the FSB?..... or is it rhetoric?.....

[huntsman650]

an airborne officer from the Kherson direction said that the authorities were working, there were traitors, even with generals' shoulder straps.

[hangar200]

seven. Seven. ? months. Is this SVO? Or yours?

[hangar200]

You can't read the news. One word - traitors. "Where are the landings?" .... etc. etc. There are no analogues to this betrayal ...... well, or simply ... there are no analogues ....

[Adagka]

Quote: angara200

seven. Seven. ? months. Is this SVO? Or yours?

Nothing, Konashenkov will speak in the evening, report on thousands of slain Khkhla and, at the end, about the planned regrouping from Liman. Who is next in line for regrouping according to the brilliant plan of the General Staff ????

[Vladimir61]

Two months ago, we stood 14 km from Slavyansk and on the ring road near Kharkov! And what today?!
Seversk, about which the military correspondents said that it was in a lowland, would be taken in a week, they didn’t take it even in two months, but they surrendered Belogorovka and now the enemy is again looming 10 km from Lisichansk. Now they say that the enemy, in some areas, is 5-8 times superior! Didn't you know this before? And if they knew, then why didn’t they take care of securing and organizing defense?
No matter how they explain what is happening now, society still has questions. They remain because the army is part of society, our citizens, fathers, sons, brothers!

[Al manah]

They don’t even tell us real news, and they don’t give a damn about our questions from high offices.

[evgen1221]

It's like with a selfie at the border, a column brought with you?

[chingachguc]

All sorts of volunteers, Cossacks, partisans of the DPR, LPR for some reason know how to fight in an organized manner. And our army is the weak link. All the negativity is pouring out of the Russian army. Direct streams. When will it end? What did Putin say yesterday? By their deeds you will know them

[DenVB]

Quote: chingachguc

And our army is the weak link.

And it has always been so. In 1941, partisans collected rifles abandoned by the army in the forests and fought against the German garrisons with these rifles.

In general, the entire cadre army then completely merged in three months, and then the mobilized peasants had to fight, under the command of lieutenants, who hastily completed one-year (at best) command courses.

[Terenin]

Here is another infa on Liman dated October 1.

Kotsnews
✔
By Liman

The defense of the city continues. The road of life along the highway from Kremennaya through Torskoye is still not physically cut, a small security zone has been created along it. However, groups on lightly armored vehicles periodically try to break through the fields. They are destroyed by groups of Russian special forces.

The enemy is pulling up forces from Seversk, there are entire units consisting of foreigners who were marked by atrocities on the Izyum offensive.

Russian artillery works on enemy heavy equipment. The approaching reserves of the Southern Military District do not allow the enemy to close the cauldron around the city. In it, by the way, there are still civilians.

The situation continues to be difficult, but not catastrophic.

@sashakots
t.me/sashakots
final match.
1.0Mviews
Oct 1 at 09:50 p.m.

[Terenin]

The commander of the "Vostok" battalion of the People's Militia of the DPR, Alexander Khodakovsky, said that, regardless of the outcome of the battle for Krasny Liman, the allied forces had completed their task.

“Regardless of how the Krasnoliman epic ends, the guys don’t even fully imagine what they did. Ukraine needed a pace, it was necessary to seize the moment after the Kharkov offensive, and put pressure on us in all directions. They were on the courage, they had a resource , quite realistic plans, initiative, in the end .... They were going to attack in the Mariupol direction, for which they transferred forces and means near Vugledar - but they ran into resistance in Krasny Liman and got stuck "

[Anton Yu]

In the TG channels they write they left Liman and retreated to prepared positions.

[Andobor]

Chechnya was forgotten, but here it is 30 times more, in all respects - territory, population, weapons, Western support. And the attracted forces are 3 times more, 10 times still need to be increased, then there will be victory.

[hangar200]

Regrouping ..... Should we dig trenches near Voronezh?

[taisiya]

Quote from Andy_nsk

I hope they send enough reinforcements there

when already? They've been fighting for Liman for two weeks.

[hangar200]

No .... guys .... it's not a problem in Liman ..... it's in the Kremlin .....

[Adagka]

At this rate, it is possible to reach the signing of other pieces of paper. Former partners puffing out their cheeks about a vigorous loaf is not impressive at all. It turns out that their citizens were abandoned in Liman, although on the following day, as yesterday, someone swore an oath not to do this.
And the question is also very interesting - hkhol in cities has been defending itself for months, because it is incredibly difficult to fight in the city due to the muttering of our lamp geniuses. And we are renting cities one by one, it turns out nothing prevents xxl

[edmed]

Quote: Quote Lavrov

Quote Lavrov (nnm)

Don’t lose your nerve, another canned cypsum has been opened

Quote: Procopius Nesterov

Prokopiy Nesterov (Prokopiy Nesterov)

[chingachguc]

Putin has a very difficult time making fateful decisions. We had to wait six months for mobilization. Now on the agenda is a personnel issue. We will lose the war with these generals. And at the same time it is necessary to transfer the economy to a war footing. If we delay, we'll lose

[kuztoday]

Because at 69 you have to retire, at home. Don't pretend to be Superman.

[hangar200]

Personnel decides everything. I.V.Stalin.........Our "cadres" have relatives in the outskirts......the country of Pinocchio.....a herd of idiots is led by a bunch of traitors? or what?.....smells bad.....300 billion greens for 140 million because it will be?

[KAZAK67]

Sorry for the help did not come
No reinforcements were sent
There are only two of us left
You and I are fucked... BG

[KAZAK67]

Yesterday there was a parade in Izyum, today a flag in Liman, and what tomorrow?
Everything would be fine if it weren't so bad

[kventinasd]

Quote: Vladimirsky

What can we understand here - they are merging the Kharkov region, after all, they didn’t hold a referendum there, they will defend Lugansk and Donetsk.

Liman is, as it were, already the Donetsk region. We defended ourselves.

Quote: Vladimirsky

After all, Khersonskaya was not drained, there is a strong defense there.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have already taken back 10% of the Kherson region.

[Lako]

Well, what is there at the General Staff? Are we going to fight? Or is everything going according to plan again? I'm interested to see who comes up with these plans there

[Gayver]

And they fight harder and will reach Moscow, they will rape women and children and slaughter everyone, is that what you wanted to say?

[Cheburek]

With such losses in equipment, as indicated in the comments to the news, it’s time to call up horses from the reserve, otherwise soon there will be no mobile troops left...

[Armen Sologyan]

Hitler with the flag also wanted to enter Moscow.

[vfrcbv1965-2011]

I don’t really understand what’s going on. The impression is that the troops were left without any command above the battalion and without intelligence support. What a nightmare. Not a single normal operation all summer. WHAT IS IT? What a whole lieutenant general is babbling about. If all the losses that he announced are added up, NATO will have no troops left. We are fighting across the globe on another planet.