Peskov explained the reasons for the postponement of the start of the autumn draft

The head of the press service of the Kremlin, Dmitry Peskov, explained the reasons for the postponement of the start of the autumn call to active military service. Instead of October 1st, it will start on November 1st.

The press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation gave his comment on this issue to the journalists of the agency RIA News.

He said that the shift in the deadline for the start of conscription should facilitate the work of military registration and enlistment offices, which have been experiencing significant overload in recent days. After all, the adoption of this decision will lead to the fact that the flows of mobilized citizens and conscripts will be divorced in time.

Now the military registration and enlistment offices are heavily overloaded due to partial mobilization. In order not to aggravate this overload, the following decision was made

- explained Peskov.

Usually, the autumn call lasts from October 1 until the New Year. Now it will start a month later, but will end, as in previous years, on December 31st.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on conscription for military service. It is expected to call this year 120 recruits, whose age is 18-27 years.

Unlike previous years, this year also sees a partial mobilization of reservists. It was announced on September 21st. As the head of the Russian defense department Sergei Shoigu explained, this decision was caused by the need to control the line of contact with the enemy in the zone of military special operation, the length of which is about a thousand kilometers. It is also required to strengthen control over the territories liberated during the NWO.

Comments

[Aerodrome]

and "grandfathers" will re-serve for a month?

[Adrey]

Quote: Aerodrome

and "grandfathers" will re-serve for a month?

All "grandfathers" have silently extended their service for six months.

[Nastia makarova]

for half a year? When was this decree? Will they pay the same as before?

[Adrey]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

for half a year?

At least according to my information. By the way, the spring call is back, let's see what will happen to the autumn one

Quote: Nastia Makarova

When was this decree?

In our country, yes decrees!? You still refer to the constitution and laws

Quote: Nastia Makarova

Will they pay the same as before?

Conscripts? Easily! They will also issue bonuses in the amount of monthly maintenance. Compared to other expenses, we definitely do not impoverish

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Adrey

All "grandfathers" have silently extended their service for six months.

Don't do throw-ins. My son is in urgent care right now. Spring call. To all "autumn workers", the command of the unit announced, before the new year, go home.

[fa2998]

As I understand it, all those demobilized will then appear at "their" Military Commissariat for registration (the law requires).

[ada]

Basically, nothing can get in the way.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: fa2998

What will prevent our military commissars from GIVING AGENDA on mobilization to the relevant Higher Educational Institutions?

A friend's son came in July. For now, there is no agenda. They promised demobilized people not to touch them for half a year. Kaliningrad. As in other regions, I do not know.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Aerodrome

and "grandfathers" will re-serve for a month?

My father said that in 1962, during the Cuban Missile Crisis, conscripts served half a year.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Aerodrome

and "grandfathers" will re-serve for a month?

In general, we have a call, as mobilization lasts more than one day, and if I'm not mistaken, several months.
It should just start like October 1st.
The SA could demobilize conscripts in the spring, or they could in the summer.
And this extension was not considered, as lucky as anyone.
ps And yes. We have hazing eradicated.
And what is this grandfather after a year of service?)
"Scraper" he is ordinary at best.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: DrMadfisher_2

I overcame a month, sobsna not kretichno,

Go "screwed up" before he re-served .... so they sent him to the last batch ...

[isv000]

Quote: Lara Croft

Quote: DrMadfisher_2

I overcame a month, sobsna not kretichno,

Go "screwed up" before he re-served .... so they sent him to the last batch ...

Those who have not sniffed footcloths cannot understand the aroma of homemade socks ...

[isv000]

Quote: DrMadfisher_2

I overcame a month, sobsna not kretichno, and these are already whining

I am +2,2 .. December 29, under the Christmas tree, I came ...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: isv000

December 29, under the Christmas tree, came ...

It’s the other way around for me - on December 29.12 they only brought to the unit ....

[dnestr74]

Grandfathers .... serve for a year ... for another year to teach the Motherland to love.

[ada]

Quote: Aerodrome

and "grandfathers" will re-serve for a month?

The terms of service are fixed and determined by law, for conscripts - 12 months. If not provided for by mobilization measures (respectively. Decrees and administrative documents), then the delay in the dismissal of those who have served the established period is not made. Conscription and dismissal are distributed over time during the period of the company, depending on the date of conscription, therefore, part of those who have served will go to their place of residence and registration for military registration without replacement from a new conscription, this, for one month of postponing the start of conscription, is a minor shortfall.

[isv000]

Quote: ada

therefore, part of those who have served will go to their place of residence and registration for military registration without replacement from a new draft, this, for one month of postponing the start of the draft, is an insignificant shortage.

Considering the time at the KMB, training, yes, it is insignificant that the shortage will last almost until the spring draft ...

[ada]

Quote: isv000

Considering the time at the KMB, training ...

I am not familiar with the training programs for the training of junior specialists at the TC, which do not provide for the KMB. I believe they do not exist, with the exception of the training of military personnel under the contract.

[isv000]

Quote: ada

Quote: isv000

Considering the time at the KMB, training ...

I am not familiar with the training programs for the training of junior specialists at the TC, which do not provide for the KMB. I believe they do not exist, with the exception of the training of military personnel under the contract.

Both are separated by a comma.
KMB and the oath can stretch for a month, training - up to three months. It is not difficult and not difficult to obtain this knowledge without being engaged here, without hesitation, in a children's talking shop.

[ada]

It was no coincidence that I answered you that other TC programs are not familiar to me, since they may have (had) a completely different duration of training, and courses - the order of recruitment (from combat units) and I believe that they are not currently available or they are completed differently contingent (but I don’t claim), which implies a shift in the staffing of junior specialist positions in HF recipients with the formation of some TNCs in the region of 1 month in the first half of 2023, and you get around 4.

[isv000]

Quote: Aerodrome

and "grandfathers" will re-serve for a month?

Yes. So that homemade pies are finally digested before a new batch ...

[Fizik13]

Work on bugs.
The military commissariats still have to work and work. After Taburetkin (Serdyukov), file cabinets will have to be restored: conscripts transferred to the reserve, military pensioners, etc. And also to restore the destroyed military registration and enlistment offices

[NKT]

Serdyukov has not been in office for 10 years, and the file cabinets have not been “restored”?
And why should they be "restored"? Serdyukov ordered the military registration and enlistment offices to put them in a mess?

[ada]

Quote: NKT

Serdyukov has not been in office for 10 years, and the file cabinets have not been “restored”?...

In order to "restore" file cabinets, you first need to create what they are equipped for.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: ada

In order to "restore" file cabinets, you first need to create what they are equipped for.

Those. for the last 10 years, a file of personal files has not been kept, it turns out that the military commissars outdid Serdyukov, if during his reign he sowed chaos in the military commissariats, incl. maintained by filing cabinets, then after it they were not formed?
Your logic is strange ...

[ada]

Quote: Lara Croft

... Your logic is strange ...

I can’t know exactly how you present the work of the VK and what exactly you mean, but there are basic documents on the organization of military registration in the public domain, of course, they won’t show you the full scheme, but it’s possible to get some idea, including that that the vast majority of resources do not have any "LD filing cabinets".
In general, what is at stake - information about the readiness of the VC, is of a closed nature. This is not discussed by definition and for a simple reason, not knowing this mechanism, since even the majority of VC employees are not allowed to it at all, and they do not have the right to transfer to anyone information that has become known to them through work (service).
For a general understanding of the situation, you need to pay attention to how it happened in the USSR and before the large-scale reduction of the RF Armed Forces. That is, as a layman, I see from the outside (or I so want to) the insufficiency of the structure of the RF Armed Forces at the explosives and I want to increase it, increase the real base of deployment, without which no file cabinets for non-existent structures are possible, with the exception of accounting for the remaining resources, which , you yourself understand (see) and so it is, but it does not adequately provide for the suddenly arising tasks of recruiting l / s. and technology.
Have I explained my logic?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: ada

that the vast majority of resources do not have any "LD filing cabinets".

We are now writing specifically only about mobilization human resources, and for each in VK there are file cabinets of personal files - "fit", "unfit", "limited fit", "removed from the register by age", I saw my personal file in my VK in 2016, in which there were outdated data on education, place of work, place of residence, marital status, profession, and so on with everyone ....
LDs are stored in iron cabinets, the obligation to provide their updated data lies incl. and on those liable for military service, military tables, at enterprises where they are provided for, etc., no one monitors those liable for military service and no one updates their data, but the persons liable for military service before that don’t care ....
Therefore, if you accuse the VC of calling a disabled person for mobilization, then this is the fault of the disabled person himself, because. he did not promptly inform his VK about his disability and, accordingly, the need to transfer him from category A to B, for example ....

I want to increase it, increase the real base of micro-deployment, without which no file cabinets for non-existent structures are possible

To understaff the existing ones and fill in the new / newly created parts, you need a mobilization manpower reserve, with certain VUSs, condition of serviceability, etc. and this can be found out from LD or when calling a mobilized person in VK, everything seems to be clear ....
It is not clear, others, how a constantly at war state does not have an electronic filing cabinet for the human and other resources of the state ...

[ada]

Quote: Lara Croft

... I saw my personal file in my VK in ...

I guess you should.

Quote: Lara Croft

... and for each in VK there are file cabinets of personal files ...

No, but the principle and everything else that you write about corresponds to (approx.), which everyone understands.
"Reserve", as a term, for many years, means something else, but I understand what you mean.

Quote: Lara Croft

... no electronic file cabinet ...

I'm embarrassed, but I'll ask (I apologize in advance if anything) - Do you yourself believe in this?
I answered you earlier, according to the documents of military registration, there are even samples of electronic cards for automated systems and it is clear that they are not for an ATM.
In addition, I will say that there is a lot of specially heated "accurate information" on the air, it is not clear where the "truth-tellers" were earlier, probably day and night they produced advanced products.

[Belousov_Kuzma_Egorovich]

I wonder why Putin likes to broadcast through Peskov? It's the same as if Stalin was broadcasting through Poskrebyshev. Does Putin believe that the hatred of the people in this case will be directed at Peskov, and not at him?

[mitroha]

I wonder why Biden likes to broadcast through Karine Jean-Pierre? It's like Roosevelt speaking through Steve Earley.
Biden believes that the hatred of the people in this case will be directed at Karine Jean-Pierre, and not at him?
There is such a job, they are called press secretaries.
What's your job?

[suhorukofal]

This is a normal practice, that's why he is a press secretary. There is one fan of riveting independent video messages, even mows down like a military man, this did not add authority to him. And it's not even about hard parishes, and it covers him tightly at these moments

[Burma6]

Should he fear the wrath of the people? It seems that many are dissatisfied with the way things are being done, but it was the people who called for help to the LDNR.

Perhaps the tsar miscalculated, perhaps the boyars did not prepare properly. But what is the alternative now? Either peace on the terms of the United States and Ukraine, or bloody retribution for past mistakes.

I think the most likely outcome would be something like the Korean border. Neither Russia nor Ukraine can agree to cede territory. The US and UK have said they will support Ukraine until it regains Crimea. France or Germany may not want to go that far, but they also cannot deter the rest of NATO.

[Thrifty]

I really want to believe that they will take care of the military registration and enlistment offices, and the reservists. The database will be updated, people will be more often taken to training camps specifically in the HF, and not for pro forma, they will prepare and educate, and if necessary, they will retrain! I served on the ZSU 23-4 Shilka, as a senior operator, at 54 I still remember a lot. But, this technique is already history, both she and Tunguska need a replacement in the form of the same caterpillar complex with cannon artillery, and with air defense systems!

[ada]

Quote: Thrifty

I really want to believe that they will take care of the military registration and enlistment offices, and the reservists. The database will be updated, people will be more likely to be taken to training camps specifically in high-frequency ...

Here, the starting point is the planning of the construction of the aircraft and their deployment on explosives, so that, for a start, there is where to do it.
According to the "non-updated database" - of course it's good that nonsense is spreading in the media, and not official information, although its magnitude is alarming and clearly heated, which has a negative effect on the mood of the population (influence factor). For the development of such factors of influence, only "over the hill" about 200 thousand full-time employees work, not to mention the "useful" ones inside the "object".
It is required to increase the knowledge of citizens in the field of defense, which should be obvious both to society and government agencies. I am definitely in favor of increasing the "militarization" of the population, because I can’t imagine how else it is possible to strengthen the defense potential of a country with such a vast territory, an unprecedented length of borders, and, relatively, a small population.

[silverwolf88]

being a deeply pro-state person, I still don’t understand Peskov’s value

[rotmistr60]

I still don't understand Peskov's value

And what is the value of press secretaries (heads of press services) of the presidents of other countries? A nomenklatura position so that the head of state is not distracted by various trifles and answers often to questions that have long been clarified. Yes, and the press is constantly asking something, wanting to clarify sometimes not understanding what exactly.

[Flooding]

Quote: rotmistr60

Nomenklatura position so that the head of state is not distracted by various trifles and often answers questions

To do this, he must speak in a language understandable to the people on topics important to the people.
He also speaks parrot.
Seems understandable, but makes no sense.

[silverwolf88]

I do not mean the position as such ... but the amount of verbal "blizzard" and unprofessionalism in comments on the topics of the President's work ...

[Flooding]

Quote: silberwolf88

being a deeply pro-state person, I still don’t understand Peskov’s value

Self-satisfied dude and poser.
It is of no value to the state.

[paul3390]

I don't understand Peskov's value

You also say that you don’t understand the value of Psaki, or the current black brownie ..

[paul3390]

Hence the sad conclusion - it seems that the current system of conscription in the Russian Federation simply cannot digest more than 300 thousand snouts at a time. This is maximum. By the way - about as many recruits happen. And if - and the truth Big Atatui begins? And will it be necessary to mobilize, say, a million? What we are going to do?

[Zoldat_A]

Paul, !

Quote: paul3390

And if - and the truth Big Atatui begins? And will it be necessary to mobilize, say, a million? What we are going to do?

And the same thing that they did in 1941 near Moscow.
There will be no discussion. A couple of formalist military commissars and saboteurs "according to the laws of war" - and everything will work out, everything will work

[ada]

Quote: paul3390

Hence the sad conclusion - it seems that the current system of conscription in the Russian Federation simply cannot digest more than 300 thousand snouts at a time. This is maximum. By the way - about as many recruits happen. And if - and the truth Big Atatui begins?

Attentive , noticed, noticed that they noticed in NAT ?, already their teeth creak
The call and the call for mobilization are different "things", but they actually go the same way, but they needed something else, with the opening of the whole scheme, naive.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: paul3390

if - and the truth Big Atatui begins? And will it be necessary to mobilize, say, a million? What we are going to do?

Well, it means that not one paramedic with an ambulance and extensive work experience will be mobilized as an ordinary motorized rifleman, but three, and how many fathers from large families will be called up and rusty machine guns will be distributed in Primorye, it’s better not to count ....
However, Serdyukov will be to blame for everything ...

[hangar200]

Peskov and his daughter in France. What is it like? Who's in charge of us? a?

[hangar200]

I like the idiocy about the overloaded military registration and enlistment offices. It is something. This is new.

[Nastia makarova]

why? even when conscripts are called up, often overload

[Vladimir Michailovich]

Quote: angara200

Peskov and his daughter in France. What is it like? Who's in charge of us? a?

France is a NATO country - they protect the Russian Federation there in a hostile environment, and Navka has US citizenship, she must be prepared for a reconnaissance mission, you need to understand.

[DenVB]

In general, a humane decision. Otherwise, given the level of organization of our Defense Ministry, these conscripts could be in the Krasnoliman direction in a week, right with their mother's pies.

[ada]

On a good note, the autumn 2021 and spring 2022 calls in a decent amount will require additional preparation.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: ada

For good

In 2023, it is necessary to increase the term of military service, increase the number of military departments and not only in universities, but also in colleges and technicians ..., enlarge the ensign schools and recreate short-term courses for junior lieutenants ...
The spring call to cancel altogether, so that schoolchildren can properly prepare for admission to the university ...

[ada]

Phew, there are many components, without detailed planning, such things are not done. For example, without getting into vocational education. Everyone knows that a period of 1 year for the full-fledged training of sailor soldiers in simple military educational institutions with an acceptable level of consolidation of knowledge, skills and abilities is sufficient to maintain them for several years, but how can this be put into practice? Here you need to initially get, to put it mildly, "suitable material" - a trained conscript who is able to withstand intensive military training and quickly assimilates training material and conduct this training without disruptions and unscheduled detachment of l / s for another. We need a period when the HF is fully equipped and combat-ready, the l / s is well coordinated and preferably large, and with constant replenishment from the call, this is difficult. A service life of 2 and 3 years made it possible to smooth out all the bumps, to fully train specialists in complex VAS at the training center and in the troops, and so on. With large numbers of armed forces, to have a sufficient rate of accumulation in the reserve of high-quality mobre resources of soldiers and sergeants, to carry out gathering activities.
But at present, the strength of the Armed Forces, their composition and the method of combined manning, with a simple increase in service life, cannot provide a comprehensive end result for the accumulation of resources, but as you can see, they are needed. Such things require state-level scientific approaches and a transitional period.

[Lara Croft]

ada (Dmitry)Everyone knows that a period of 1 year for the full-fledged training of sailor soldiers in simple VUS with an acceptable level of consolidation of knowledge, skills and abilities is sufficient

I think not. The minimum service life is 1,5 years (ideally - 3, according to Israeli Jews, this is the optimal minimum period + every year in / fees for 10 years after the end of the service, then the time for conscription for military fees can be reduced). Military personnel on conscription should immediately get to the training center, bypassing the KMB, the replacement of the KMB is summer camps for 1-2 weeks from grades 9-11 of the school on the basis of the military unit (the NVP will have to be restored), give the opportunity to obtain a driver's license at educational schools, the period of stay in / s in the TC is 2-6 months, then a whole year of full-fledged service covering all seasons of the year; assignment immediately to a corporal or ml. from-ta in the UC .... the command should offer him to either stay until the end of his service at the UC, or send him already to the troops.

We need a period when the HF is fully equipped and combat ready

No economy of any country can withstand the maintenance of a large army with a constant composition ....
Parts of the first echelon must be equipped with 90-95% l / s and 100% V and VT, parts of the second echelon must be equipped with 65-80% l / s and 90-95 V and VT, in peacetime they must those who served in the army no more than 10 years ago, in parts of the frame (3rd echelon), staffed by 10-25% l / s and 60% V and VT, must go to / fees schoolchildren / students and reservists who served more than 10 years ago, persons "limitedly fit for military service" can also pass there (less often than everyone else) ....

[ada]

I support your aspirations, but you yourself understand who is able to carry out such work and how much time it takes. I wanted to answer in more detail, but the large text did not go through despite several attempts.

[Lara Croft]

Yes, under the Union, all this was ....
And so this is a doctoral topic both in political science and in military economics, 300 pages .... maybe someone wrote something on this topic in modern Russia

[buslaif]

Quote: fa2998

As I understand it, all those demobilized will then appear at "their" Military Commissariat for registration (the law requires).

Not demobilized, but transferred to the reserve. Demobilized are those who were mobilized. In the course of time, those transferred to the reserve may well be given summons for mobilization, because they have been trained during the year. The matter will not end with one partial mobilization. This is if the high command decides to fulfill the intended goals and tasks to the end. mobilized. Well, if you just threaten Western enemies with your finger, try to persuade, or agree, as now, then you can not do anything.

[buslaif]

Quote: Lara Croft

Everyone knows that a period of 1 year for the full-fledged training of sailor soldiers in simple VUS with an acceptable level of consolidation of knowledge, skills and abilities is sufficient

According to different military schools and different periods of training for soldiers. Military service for 1 year is an excursion to the army, which gives nothing to the soldier, only a check mark on the military ID. Moreover, the nature of modern wars implies a high degree of professionalism of military personnel, which cannot be achieved in 1 year. Nevertheless, people talk in terms of the old days, when the urgent service was 3 and 2 years, and when it can be said with certainty that the Soviet system of training soldiers and sergeants gave the desired result, not to mention the training system for officers and ensigns. For example, for university students, training was introduced at unified military training centers, which provide for three training programs:
• for an officer with subsequent contract service;
• for a reserve officer;
• for privates and reserve sergeants.
As for sergeants and conscripts, the optimal training period would be from 4 to 6 months of training, depending on the military specialty. After training, soldiers must consolidate their skills in practice. And this is at least 1 year. That. in a year and a half the state will have a professional soldier. Well, then comes the choice. Either stay on a contract, or retire to the reserve.

[buslaif]

Quote: ada

you yourself understand who is able to carry out such work and how much time it takes.

So we always have. We want to have a smaller army, and cheaper for the budget. Cheaper girls on the track. The combat readiness of the army and its mobilization capabilities are expensive, but necessary. We are reaping the fruits today. Fighters are needed today and now to replenish those who are out of action, and we are forced to re-train the mobile resource, because for 30 years we have been fooling around, covering the eyes of the country's leadership that "the armor is strong and our tanks are fast." Didn't get through. Yes, if only they listened to professionals and started cooking for 7 months. back replenishment in the army along with mobilization, then maybe everything would have been different. We study, as in 1941-42, God forbid that we have time to learn.